55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Dave Williams, German Day, Steve Goodin, Ron Wilson

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Five o five at the five kr C detalk station. Happy Friday.

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There's a who for Friday, buta not so much in terms of what
happened yesterday in New York. Yes, as you all know by now,
I'm certain Donald Trump found guilty uhfor really we don't know what. And
we'll get to a little bit ofthat later, most notably at at oh
five, Steve Gooden is going toreturn to the program is on yesterday giving
us a legal analysis and breakdown ofthe Trump case, and he'll return now

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to talk about well now what that'llbe dayo five, And thank you just
Jaker for the wonderful lineup we've gotthis morning. Of course, it is
Friday, that means tech Friday dayhad her. Yes, the world continues
to turn and tech problems continue toexist, regardless of the outcome of that
New York trial. Railroad job thathas got Joe. You've been on Facebook
or social media at all this morning? How many upside down American flags have

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you seen? Hundreds of them?A lot of people a little upset,
and this may have lasting implications forpeople's faith in the judicial system. I
can certainly understand that certainly shattered myfaith anyway, Tech Friday it Dave Hatter,
what are the top targets for cybercrimeartificial intelligence impact on the election?
Uh oh, conspiracy theories or conspiracyobservers out there are going to be all

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ginned up in the aftermath of yesterday'sdecision. I am certain of that.
If you can weaponize the judicial system, of course, can you weaponize elections?
Many people think that happened last time. And finally, warrantless wire tabs
on United States soil. That's somethingwe talk about with Judgment Apolitano all the
time. Dave Hadder is going tojoin them the fun and that'll be our
third topic of conversation this morning againbeginning at six point thirty. Dave Williams

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Taxpayer Protection Alliance always enjoy talking withDave. Subsidies for pro sports teams and
stadiums. Yeah, that's one ofour favorite topics. I don't know why
the American taxpayer feels obligated to supportprivately owned sports teams, but we do,
and usually with great regret. Biden'stax proposal and what is the and

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this is initial caps debt per TaxpayerInformation Act. Dave will explain that to
us that'll be beginning at seven ohfive, followed by and there is still
are and there are still fun thingsto do in spite of where we find
ourselves today, the return of hairDon Heinrich Toltzman are resident expert of all
things German. He isn't resident,he didn't have an office here, but

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every time we got some German thingsgoing on, Hair Toltzman joins the morning
show, and today we'll be talkingabout German Day Celebration, which is a
kickoff to the lovely German festival season. Always great time at those. The
variety of German clubs we have arejust outstanding people and you ought to experienced
some good times. Gi me Kite, you got to go to one of

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these events or more or all ofthem. Steve Gooden, as I mentioned
at eight oh five, giving usthe legal analysis of now What, and
thank god, as I mentioned,the world still turns Ron Wilson at eight
thirty to talk about things gardening.It'll be interesting to see what Smithman has
to say on Monday. He's beenon a tear on this Donald Trump case,
but he will be joining the programMonday for the smith event. We

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just had him on Wednesday. Ifyou didn't get tend a chance to hear
that or any of the other showtopics. Guests go to podcast page fifty
five care see dot com you canhear what Steve Gooden had to say yesterday.
A wonderful breakdown. And you know, like Steve, I was holding
out some hope that of one ofthe jurors would be a holdout, like
twelve angry men, one would seethrough this nonsense. But you know,

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most of my listeners had chimed inon the top, they said, and
they contended, point taken. I'llconcede I was wrong for having some hope
and faith in the judicial system.Most of my listeners said, it was
a foregone conclusion. What happened yesterdaytotally expected and a railroad job. And
whoa. It already is starting towork to Donald Trump's benefit. His campaign

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donation page crashed in the afternath ofthe verdict yesterday. In fact, one
person made an eight hundred thousand dollarsdonation to this political action committee, according
to Trump campaign, so many Americanswere moved to donate the President Trump's campaign

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that the win Read one word winRead pages went down. Trump advisor Chris
Lisavita obviously attributed to the outage atWin read to the official which is the
official Republican Party donation platform, tothe quote millions of American patriots wanting to
donate to Donald Trump's campaign. Apparentlyits about an hour and a half off

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lines back up if you want togo ahead and make a donation. Trump
was appealing to everybody out there.Hey, got ten million people out there.
Everyone, please make a contribution.We need to defeat Donald. Joe
Biden Lee's Elden campaign surrogate for formerLong Island congressman quote just secured an eight
hundred thousand dollars donation from someone forPresident Trump's joint fundraising committee. Never experienced

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a massive ask that easy. Andas soon as a Jerry verdict came out,
I think they were all anticipating this. Trump sent out a social media
blast. I am a political prisoner, breaking corrupt New York court find Trump
guilty. Stand with Trump. Ifyou can afford to help me fight back

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at this pivotal moment, please donate. Yeah. And some interesting observations over
Fox Chris Jason Chaffits for those closelyfollowing the trial, the injustices inflicted by
the prosecutors and the judge were sotransparent that it was easy to believe there

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must be at least one juror whowould see through it. That was my
hope, That was the hope ofSteve Gooden yesterday. But as he points
out, with Judge Marsham's prosecution friendlyjury instructions, the twelve jurors could basically
find Trump guilty based on vibes.The judge told him they can make decisions
without proof. He advised jurors thatone could infer that had been raining by

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seeing a wet umbrella, even ifthey didn't actually see the rain themselves.
In other words, if you thinkTrump seems like a criminal, you don't
have to have proof. And thatwas the underlying point. There were multiple
things that the jury could look atand not even have a unanimous perception of
those multiple things, but as longas something looked like it was untoward in

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the actions below, that they couldput that all together and ultimately conclude that
Trump committed a felony, something thatall the other prosecutors in the judicial system
had passed on, even pursuing it'splain to see. He wrote, what
the Democrats were willing to sacrifice inorder to win this selection, leaving voters
to write, rightly, wonder isthere anything they wouldn't do to win?

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And here's where we run into thoseconcerns leading into the fall election. What
of the outcome are we going tobelieve it? Could Joe Biden actually win?
Could Joe Biden win this selection?Given? And you know it's everywhere
and you knew this was coming.The guy what they wanted. If you
had a dollar, now think aboutit. If you had a dollar for

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every time you were going to hearand we've already started hearing ad nauseum the
words convicted felon after any reference toTrump, we could all retire comfortably,
in spite of the fact that thedollars being watered down as significantly as it
is every day the printing press runningthat dollar is less valuable. But if
you had a dollar for every timesomeone says convicted felon relating to Trump from

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this point forward, I don't thinkit would matter. We'd all be multi
multi billionaires. New York Times editorialop ed leading Donald Trump comma felon,
yeah, and then concluding that heis unfit for office? Is he does
anybody truly believe that this renders himunfit for office. I mean, think

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about it. In the grand schemeof things, New York has murderers,
rapists, muggers, thieves, crimeout of control. They don't put people
in jail for committing murder. Theylet people out on own recognizance bonds when
they've committed heinus felon. He's neverrap sheet ten pages long. This is
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars.One hundred and thirty thousand dollars, and

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somehow we're supposed to ignore the plain, cold, hard reality. Any man
out there who has a loving wifeand who is interested in maybe trying to
keep from her, well, theerror of your ways for having sex with
someone outside of your marriage, youhave a vested interest in keeping that out

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of the news, and you havea vested interest in hiding that information from
your wife. Donald Trump no differentthan any other man in that situation.
Don't you think that's at least agood chunk of the reason why this hush
money was paid, That it hadnothing to do with his campaign. We
all knew Donald Trump was a playboyplayer. Those one of the problems that
many people had on the Republicans sideof the ledger, most notably my evangelical

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friends on the listening audience. Youknow, you got to give Trump a
lot of passes in spite of thefact that what he does flies in the
face of the tenets of your religion. But we all knew he was a
player, boy, flander. Everyoneknew it. In fact, I think
you know, we all know hebragged about it, at least that one
Access Hollywood tape, you know.And he gets in trouble for stating the

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obvious. He didn't say he wentaround grabbing women's genitalia. He said his
position basically as a movie star,celebrity, real estate mogul, multi millionaire,
put him in a position where associety has demonstrated time and time and
time again that yeah, you getaway with a lot. There's a lot

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of women out there that wouldn't mindit because they're interested in your money,
you're fame, or just the braggingrights like groupies with concerts, the bragging
rights to say, yeah, Islept with that guy. Of all the
multitudes of women in the world whoreally would love to bang Donald Trump,
I'm the one that can claim thetitle. People are that that's shallow and
that well weird. Frankly, hejust was stating the obvious bud he said

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it. That's his mindset. Weall know about it. I like to
get your reaction. Where do youthink have you lost complete faith in the
judicial system. This is certainly nota win for America right now, and
with all of our problems to theDepartment of Justice, the FBI, the
trampling upon our Fourth Amendment rights wouldbe free of unreasonable search and caesars engaged

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in by the foregoing lettered agencies includingthe nssay the weaponization of government against oh
we have a positive Supreme Court casewe'll get to as well the NRI.
This is reminiscent of Operation show Hold, where the Justice Department threatened businesses to
stop doing business with government manufacturers.We had the irs weaponized against conservative organizations,

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all illegal, and we have acase now the unanimous Supreme Court backs
the NRA on free speech. Samekind of circuit. As a situation,
New York Superintendent Department of Financial Servicescoerce Financial Institutions that she regulated to quit
doing business with the NRA and otherNRI rights groups because she was pressuring them,

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threatening them with some sort of actionregulatory or otherwise unless they stopped doing
business with the NRI. The NRAsued, The appellate court threw it out.
The Supreme Court said unanimously, Ohno, no, no, NRA
can sue. They have a validcause of action here, but just one
other you know, reality of whatthis oppressive government is doing to each and

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every one of us. There butfor the grace of God, go you
or I, as basically Christopher Smithmanalso pointed out the other day in terms
of you know, this could happento any one of us, in terms
of what the railroad job that DonaldTrump just got that just went through any
single one of us. As Ipointed out time and time again, you
know, I don't know about you. I don't have the financial resources to

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survive this type of legal attack.Who among us does unless you are a
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eighth h and C phones. Letme yeah, when Summer lose. Sum

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lost yesterday. But I have confidencein the appellate cord system throwing this all
out just based on the jury instructionsalone, with the nebulous nature of the
underlying charges. Over to the phones, we go to start with ev one.
Who's first, the Corey hang onEvelyn, Welcome to the morning show
and try to make it happy Friday. Well thanks. I think that any
jurer or jurors who would have evenshowed any doubt and started a little questioning

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would have been would be in dangerfor their life and their family's life.
I mean, in that media frenzyand the location. I mean, I
think it would have been basically likea form of suicide. Well, you
know, one could make that argumentin either direction, and I hear what

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you're saying, and I think probablymore likely than any person who had reasonable
doubt and would have acquitted Trump basedupon having legitimate reasonable doubt, certainly would
have been outed in the media andyes, been subjected to all kinds of
horrific at minimum, you know,name calling, et cetera, doxing online,

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but perhaps even something violent could havehappened. We've seen this before.
But if you listen to the left, you know the Apartment of Justice is
out there looking for all these coordinated, evil right wing extremists that they claim
are out there in the world.And you know what, maybe the jury's
going to be facing those folks tothe extent they even exist. And I've
got a real big, jaded,jaundiced eye of cynicism directed in that theory.

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I'm sure there are right wing organizationsout there that are evil, like
the and I don't even want tocall the Klan right wing. I think
that's that's an insult to right wingers. But yeah, there's some crazy people
out there in the world. Hey, maybe the jury's going to suffer their
wrath. We're going to have tojust wait and find out. But that
street runs two ways. So thiswas just I cannot imagine even being in
a position of a juror in thistrial because of the scrutiny that each of

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hang on. First off, youcan feel free to call five one,
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two three falk maybe three things.Second off, I want to say a
very special happy birthday to my wife. I outkicked my coverage. I said
that for years with Mary, thirtytwo years in June. And you know,
I've made some great decisions in mylife, and I made some really,
really stupid ones, but without question, convincing my wife to accept my

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proposal of marriage was right up thereat New Marrow. Uno. I love
you, honey, and I reallyam happy that you're having I hope you
have a happy birthday anyway, anddistressed about yesterday she was as well.
She wanted to turn our flag outin front yard upside down. So I
appreciate that sentiment, but I didn'twant to go that direction. Still have
faith in the country. And thesecond thing, Corey, real quick here,
I just want to read what ChairmanAlex Tranthefilo of the Republican Party here

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in Ohio. He is the chairman. Here's his reaction on behalf of the
Ohio Republican Party. President Donald J. Trump has lived seventy seven years and
done billions and of billions of dollarsin business without the single hint of a
criminal charge until he crossed Democrats andran as the people's choice, and for
that he has paid as steep aprice as anyone in American political history.

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What happened in this sham trial isan American travesty and a corruption of our
system of justice. This case shouldnever been brought. This side show will
only bolster our resolve to support PresidentTrump against the machine of elites who have
set out to destroy him. Ournation should be talking about Biden's disastrous policies
that have crushed regular citizens, andnot the actions of one local district attorney

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in out of touch New York City. This is a rank injustice and it
will be corrected at the ballot boxin November. We stand with President Trump.
I share Alex's sentiments on that,and I tell you what I think
this may very well in You're toDonald Trump's benefit for anyone who is paying
even a remote bit of attention.Corey, thank you for putting up with
me on those initial comments and forholding over the break. Welcome to the

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show. Good morning, Brian.Just a side note, I've been flying
my flag upside down since twenty twenty. I know other people who I know
a lot of people who have thego ahead. I think a lot of
people are finally waking up and realizingthe Democrats hate you. They hate everything
you stand for. If you're aChristian, conservative, traditional American values person,

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they hate you and they will doanything to have you arrested or even
up to killed. Look at theatf Raid recently, and this is not
the end of what they're willing todo. They will steal the election again
because Republicans have done next to zeroto confront the mail in ballot issue and
voter IDs type stuff. Some stateshave but most have not. They will

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not allow Trump to win. Theyif he does one, they will have
him assassinated like JFK and it willultimately lead to a civil war. Like
we said the other day, wasChristopher Silverman. But just everybody, get
ready. It's coming, man,it's and there's no way we can stop

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it. This train has left thestation. Well, I wish there was
something I could say to try tobolster your optimism for the future. I
tend I you know, I alwayshave referred to myself as a reformed pessimist.
Back in the day, I youknow, I was a pessimist about
everything in the great and I alwayssaid, listen, you know I have
a gloomintine perception of everything. Butlook, I'll be very happy if I'm

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wrong. You know, the ideathat if you're wrong, things are be
better. So at some point Idecided, you know what, I'm tired
of looking at everything in the negative. I'm going to try to be a
reform pessimist and try to sem findsomething positive. Because if you walk around
believing the end is nigh and everythingis terrible, you tend to ruin your
life. And that's I call thata win for the left. So try

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to find some positive out there.Work hard, struggle, hey, you
know, get involved. There arethings people can do to actually turn stem
the tide on this. And wedon't need to roll over prostrate ourself to
these leftist Waco nut jobs. Icertainly don't hang in there, Corey hanging
there. You know, the endain't over, and this Friday we got
a weekend ahead of us. Wecan at least be positive about that,

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right Who we got on? Whois that? Joe oki Oky on line
too, Welcome to the program.Thanks for calling this morning. Well,
thank you for being there when Icalled all the days for me to have
my computer in the shop. Ican't do anything up or I wouldn't be
bugging. It's pretty amazing, youknow. I'm sorry, go ahead,

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no, no, I just youknow, the one day when this news
is hitting the fat and you wantto find out, God, you can't
do it. That's the power ofa computer. Try try dropping your cell
phone or losing your cell phone fora day and you realize, oh my
god, I can't even get intomy computer without two factor authentication anyway,
go ahead, okay, I'm sorry. All right. So you have a
legal background, you may know this. So the Framers set up the constitution

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so that the Supreme Court, uhhere's cases with disputes between the states.
Are those disputes limited to border disputes, commerce disputes or are they more inclusive?
Could they also include if one stateinterferes with the federal election process of

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the other forty nine? I thinkthat they could hear a case like that.
I would just I mean it wouldbe predicated. I mean, what
the underlying legal cause of action is. Is there a specific legal statute,
whether federal or state, that youcan cite to bring a cause of action
and the extent there is, yeah, I think a federal court could.
The commerce clause has been interpreted sobroadly as to include literally anything you do

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anywhere at any time, because it'slike the butterfly effect you exhale, and
somehow it's going to interfere with interstatecommerce or the environment. You know,
the borders seem to be immaterial anymore, based upon the broad reading that we
got out of Wicker versus Philburn.Not sure I quite answered your question,
but without a specific cause of action, I wouldn't know, but it sounds

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certainly plausible based upon how you setit up. Ah. I always worry
when anybody calls in and says you'rea lawyer, and then I get all
weirded, as like, oh mygod, here we go, because when
you're a lawyer doesn't mean you havea full grasp on all things legal.
Like I never practiced criminal law,so it's a little outside of my Bailey
Wick, don't ask me a taxlaw question because I never practiced tax law.

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Between the lines Marjof Trucker's executive producersand he does what he wants point in
the week when he gets his baserip out Ian primus Fanning is why tod
the phones we go. I dohave a stack as stupid in front of

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me. But we're gonna see whatChris has to stay this morning. Chris,
thanks for calling the Morning Show.Yes, I just want to say,
well, I listen to you everymorning at work. But I just
wanted to say that I do agreewith your previous caller, but not just
with the threats on the jurors livespositively being added, but was to stop
the government and the administration going afterthem, finding dirt on them. And

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I'd have to be going on inthe back of their mind taking if they
can do this to Trump, Ohyeah, stop them from doing this to
me. Yeah. Someone called that, the other called that the other day.
I mean, could someone be bribesof course, if you have a
jury for any matter, criminal orcivil. I mean, how many movies
have we all seen where that happens. The mob, you know, bribes
the jury or threatens jurors, orthreatens the jurors you know loved ones and

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family members, and you better notfind guilty, or you better find guilty
or we are going to fill inthe vine. That is certainly something that
exists based upon the way our systemof justice is structured and with these modern
times we live in and online socialmedia makes it so much easier for basically
the entire population to pose that typeof threat, even if it's just a

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verbal attack or an online assault,you know, I mean, it's it's
it's troubling and worrisome to people,so much so that people aren't even willing
or and they are afraid to utterat pollennial an opinion on anything that might
be in the least bit controversial,like pick an issue. You may hate
the whole idea of woke or theLGBTQ plus thing being taught to our children

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in school, gender ideology. Youmay have a problem with, you know
whatever, and if you utter asyllable about it, there are thousands of
people out there that are going torun to go and start criticizing you or
doxs you, or you know,call you out. So that's the world
we live in and this is nodifferent That's just where we are. And

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that's a sad thing for justice,I agree. But every juror in every
trial faces that risk and they alwayshave on some level. You know,
the phone call in the middle ofthe night you're on the jury, Oh
well, you better do it thisway or that way, or you are
at risk. That's it's baked intothe system. Not saying it happened here.

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But how do we know? Imean, I've ever judging Paul Tano's
pointed out, you know, weall wonder how why are reper representatives you'
thinking, Okay, this is agood solid you know, fill in the
black conservative or good solid Democrats.How in the hell did they end up
voting that particular way on that billor that issue. You know the Paul
taught us alluded to it. HM, maybe someone behind the scenes that one
of these lettered agencies tapped them onthe shoulder and whispered in their ear.

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Hey, do you know that wehave filled in the black your Internet search
history. We know about that affairyou're having, We know about you know
your your sexual proclides, we knowabout the money you embezzle, your fail
to put it could be anything,and that may, as a consequence,
result in something that they do onbehalf of the public that the otherwise might
not do. It is a riskthat we all face and even more so

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underscored given the internet age and thedata collection age we find ourselves in.
That's what tech Friday, Dave Hatteris all about why give Google more information?
They've already got everything they can geton you, and you're giving them
more by using their platforms. Guesswhat, they have a complete dossier on
you, and yes, they knowthe color of your eyes and also where
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happy Friday, Tea LEAs try tomake it one. I know it's difficult
to do under the current circumstances,at least for most of our listening audience,
and for some of them out there, they're probably giddy with excitement and
grinning ear to ear, which isextraordinarily short sighted. So what Paul's got
on the topic, Paul, welcometo the program and try to make it
a happy Friday. Well, hey, absolutely, I'm still going to be

(33:02):
positive about America. I gave fouryears of my life in service to the
country during the Vietnam years and haveAsian orange and all that stuff in me.
But still I'm going to fight likehell to be done in this country.

(33:24):
What happened in New York yesterday shouldwake up all of us to the
fact that our very existence as acountry lies in the balance in this coming
election. There are twenty US Senatorsup for re election this fall. It

(33:45):
would be it's my prerogative or whateverto eliminate the Shared Brown as our senator
in Ohio. We've got to getan over whelming majority of Republicans in office
everywhere so that we can start withthe SCCS trying to get a balance in

(34:12):
our media, telling the people thetruth instead of all of this one sidedness.
We've got to right this ship.It's you have a caller that calls
in every now and then. Healso always says there's a counterpoint. Well,
damn it, this is our counterpoint. And if he can't see that,

(34:35):
then he's blind. And so riseup, America, join me in
fighting back and saving this beautiful,wonderful discard. Ward's on our nose country,
but it's worth fighting for. It'sthe only country on the face of

(34:58):
this earth that's keeping Earth going,kicking and moving forward. If we eliminate
America, this planet goes into chaos. Well stated, the emotion in your
voice obviously reflects your passion on thistopic, yours commitment and service to our
country. Truly appreciate it, sir, and I appreciate your words of encouragement

(35:21):
and emotion and encouraging listeners not togive up. No one should give up,
you know. And maybe this isthe moment of reckoning for the conservatives
out in the world, the libertarianslike myself, little l I might point
out, And I keep thinking inmy mind in terms of financial reality,
we're facing thirty reaching close to thirtyfive trillion in debt. The numbers keep

(35:43):
racking up, the debt service numberscrazy that it is going to take some
sort of financial catastrophe for us tostop spending so much damn money. The
problem is not tax revenues. Theproblem is outlays, and every dollar spent
by the federal government comes with allthe strings attached to manipulate and micromanage every

(36:06):
aspect of our lives. We nolonger live in a capitalist society. We
live in a fascist society. Andthen maybe this is it. Maybe this
is the point in time, andthat nobody should give up. And maybe
those who are going to sit onthe count and just ignore the election because
both candidates suck and I'm not goingto abide and I refuse, maybe they'll
get off and vote now. Maybethey'll just say, I've had enough of

(36:28):
this, the weaponization of every departmentin government against Donald Trump and the American
people. I have had it.I will not abide. I will hold
my nose and vote for Donald Trumpbecause he doesn't represent that as a political
philosophy. He may not be onehundred percent perfect, no one is,
but do not throw out the betterfor the sake of the perfect. Do

(36:51):
not stay at home and allow theterrible to have another four years out of
recognizing full well that it's going tobe even worse with Kamala Harris's present.
Then. I mean, we allknow Joe Biden's handlers are feeding words to
him and telling him what his policiesare to be. Did we get the
unifier, the great Mediator? Didwe get the guy who is going to
save America from the division? Hell? No, we got division on steroids

(37:15):
with the guy who was supposed tosave us from that. Don't stay home,
Get out and vote and join help. If you got money, contribute
if you have time, Knock ondoors, if you got a yard,
put a sign up in your yard, do something anything, and encourage your

(37:37):
friends to get out and vote aswell. It ain't over till the Fat
Lady sings, and fat Lady ain'tsinging yet. Five fifty six fifty five
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The exhaust stations prescriptions required an onlineconsultation with the healthcare provider who will
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Mornings. You're happy to be hereand happy to issue a Happy Friday in
spite of the painful reality we're alldealing with right now, which was the

(38:21):
railroad job that happened to Donald Trumpyesterday in New York City, many of
which many folks in my listening audience, most notably just expected it. This
was a fore gone conclusion. Andof course, if you paid attention throughout
the trial, jury instructions, JuddMershan's actions, Alvin Bragg's actions, the
fact that their key witness was anabsolute, outright, admitted to everyone liar,

(38:45):
and the pecurious, weird nature ofthe charges that were made against him.
It's just it's certainly right to beoverturned on appeal. And the big
question is when might that happen.I doubt that it's going to be in
advanced of the election. I don'tknow how quickly the appellate courts are going
to be dealing with this. Idon't know how quickly the attorneys for Trump

(39:06):
are going to get their documents togetherto raise all the issues that need to
be raised on appeal, and thereare a multitude of them. And will
this impact Trump? Obviously, withhis campaign fundraising site making so much money
and having so many hits yesterday itcrashed for an hour and a half.
He wracked in a ton of moneyyesterday. As a consequence of this we're

(39:28):
talking about. And again I willgo back to the dollar amount at stake
here, one hundred and thirty grand. I mean, of all the alleged
crimes in the world, and allthe problems that New York City faces,
and all the potential problems they face, I mean, they go after Donald
Trump, and they go after himhard, campaigning on going after and prosecuting

(39:49):
Donald Trump before there was any evidenceof crime even out there. They had
to search for this, This informationhad been passed over by the federal government.
They didn't bother prosecuting for these youknow, the the the the the
underlying payments that were that were misdemeanors. The Statute of Limitations ran on them.
But here we are. Does thischange what the Biden administration has done

(40:15):
to us by running around which weare going to hear every moment of every
single day from this point forward tothe end of time. As long as
Donald Trump's name is in the newsor mentioned, convicted fellon, It's happened,
It started immediately yesterday. You're notgonna be able to get away from
it. Just mentioned the last star. If we all had a dollar for

(40:35):
every time someone said it, thenwe'd all be multi billionaires by the the
end of the process. But youcan say, convicted, fella, Donald
Trump, convicted fellon. Look atwhat's what's an issue beneath it? Does
it really strain his his his legitimacyto be president doesn't stop him from it.
There's nothing in the constitution that breveit'sa felon from being president. Read
your Constitution. Well, I thinkthis will strengthen a lot of pro Trumpers

(41:00):
resolve. I'd like to think it'llget some people who were sitting on the
fence and going a don't like eitherguy. But can you get rid of
the fact that Biden sucks and hispolicies suck. Can you get past the
fact that he is a Alzheimer's riddledold man who defecates in his own pants,
or at least it looks that way. A lot of running jokes on
that one. I'll let you drawyour own conclusions whether that's true or not.

(41:21):
But anybody with a toddler knows exactlythe look on their face they get
when that's going on, and yousee that in Biden quite a bit.
Does it change any of that tochange the runaway spending and government? Does
it change them? Micromanaging every elementof our life? Does it change them
forcing you to drive an electric vehiclethat you do not want? Does it
change the price of gasoline, theprice of groceries. No, none of

(41:43):
that changes, and none of thatwill change unless you get rid of the
current administration and choose one that isnot going to stay on the same path,
and you are guaranteed that with anyDemocratic nominee take a stand, ignore
Trump's faults and ignore this convicted fellanonsense which we won't be able to get

(42:07):
away from, and change the directionof the country. It ain't too late,
at least I'm optimistic enough to sayit's not too late. Fat Lady
hasn't sung. As they pointed outthe end of the last hour, Maureen,
Welcome to the program. Thanks forcalling today. Hi, Brian,
I much just want to reiterate whenI said yesterday about this guilty verdict that

(42:28):
was predicted. I think that he'sjust setting precedent for what's going to happen
when the tables turn, and bydoing so well in the meantime, we're
seeing election interference at its finest.So that's gonna ent, isn't it funny?
I mean, sort of ironic andcrazy in a sense that he was
being prosecuted for allegedly interfering an electionby buying off this prostitute, and the

(42:52):
entire Trump trial is definitive election interference, depriving him his ability to go out
to fundraisers and make campaign speeches inother states. You must be in court
every single day of this criminal trial, I mean, and the guilty verdict,
which provides them with this wonderful talkingpoint they've all gone on to,
which is Donald Trump convicted fellon?Yeah, I'd say a little bit of
election interference. But wait a second. Your first point, marine was the

(43:15):
tables might be turned. You're saying, if Donald Trump gets elected that they're
going to engage in lawfare against theDemocrats. Well, I think what's going
to happen is the next step inthis process is they need to lift the
immunity, and once that immunity islifted, you will be able to go
after presidents past presidents, because that'swhat they're doing right now. And when

(43:37):
you have piles and piles of thingsthat they can use against them, why
wouldn't you. I mean, they'veinterfered with our elections. They I mean,
there's this countless things that you couldgo after them for that will actually
stick. President Trump's will could beoverturned on appeal. So, like I
said yesterday, I'm not the leastthey worried about this. I see it.

(43:57):
It's a good thing, is faras being able to set precedent.
And that's why I call him PresidentTrump instead of I loved that, Yes,
president Trump, not President Trump.I thought that was very glover of
you, Marene. She said,kind of increase his voter base. I
think, well, and see that'swhat I'm appealing to. I do believe

(44:20):
it will help him on to acertain degree. It will raise me seen
to what degree, and the extremelyuninformed voting masses out there may very well
be swayed by this talking point.The left is going to be rattling on
about en Victord Fellow Donald Trump,and that may you know, if you
don't know anything about what happened inNew York, you don't know anything about
politics generally speaking, and yet you'restill inclined to go out and vote.

(44:40):
It may have an impact negatively onTrump. But anybody who paying any attention
to this knows it's a railroad job. And hopefully we get some out come
on appeal before the before the beforethe election in November. Yeah, I
think there's a significant number of peopleon the other side that will switch that
feel disinfringship, disenfranchised by this unjustjustice system that they're witnessing and this two

(45:04):
tier justice system because they feel likethey've been a part of that, and
maybe they all open their eyes tothis and and change parties. So the
other thing that I'm sorry I wantto go on little Frankel Rose. Yes,
like yesterday when you spoke with him, Frankel Rose, he brought up
a person that I found very interesting. He mentioned Hans George Wiss. He's

(45:27):
the Swiss billionaire that's funding and hewas had a say and issue one by
his multiple millions that he's telling andFranklrose described him as most powerful guy in
Ohio. Well it's not just Ohio. He I recognized his name when he
mentioned it, because when you interviewedScott Walter, the author of the book
Arabella the Dark Money Now that lefta Billionaires, he mentioned this Hans Georg

(45:52):
Wiss, So I looked him upand I actually bought the book. And
I think that Frankel Rose needs toread that book because he voiced some frustration
to me as far as handling thisperson. But in the book they talk
about a group called Americans for PublicTrust and that they have come out and
they've talked about how can this personwho's not a US citizen or permanent resident,

(46:15):
how can he directly make contributions tothe federal political candidates according to a
twenty twenty one complaint that they filedwith the FEC. And so there is
a significant lawsuit in the works thatisn't being dealt with. So maybe that's
something that frank LeRose could address becauseit is interfering with our elections, and

(46:37):
President Trump signed an executive order.I think it's one three eight four eight,
and it's about foreign interference in ourelections. And when you're pumping in
foreign money, no matter whether it'sChina or whoever, Switzerland, in this
space, it's legitimate and needs tobe dealt with well. I think the
big, the most fundamental problem isin you know, I'm not big on

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outing people and rules and regulations inthis crazy world we live in where you
really everybody is our neighbor and youcan electronically transfer money from literally any place
on the globe to account Here,political action committees do not need to identify
the source of any of their income, and they are not limited in the
contributions that they take in and theyof course can work on ballot issues,

(47:21):
which means some foreigner can give billionsof dollars or millions, as the case
may be, to any given politicalaction committee for the purpose of advancing their
left wing agenda without being accountable.Tracing the dollars can be tough, but
it's not that difficult in a modernsociety we live in where electronic transactions are
documented and noted, and in'spite ofthe fact that you want to hide your

(47:42):
money, LLC's can be discovered,like the Biden administration and Biden family.
What they got one hundred and thirtytwo of them or something. You can
trace the money. It's a long, arduous process, but as long as
someone is willing to do the workas you're pointing out, and go after
them and prosecute them accordingly, theycan be caught and charged and found.
Appreciate it, Maureen. As always, I appreciate your comments and I like

(48:04):
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In spite of yesterday's erdig Happy Friday, David, something to be happy about

(49:12):
out in the world, and theunanimous Supreme Court yesterday about the NRA and
it's right to free speech is atleast tempering my dismay over the railroad job
that Donald Trump just went through NewYork. Let's go to the phones here
and see what Jay has to say. Jay, thanks for calling today.
Welcome to the program. Hey,thanks Brian. Hey, something I've been
thinking about for a while. Ican think about the one of our founding

(49:34):
fathers said, and I don't rememberwhich one, but one of them said
that this form of government can onlywork with the people of high morality,
high integrity, and I think we'restarting to see it fail with some of
the Blue states. So my questionis if we're really a union, a
voluntary union of fifty land masses andpeoples that are called states. What point

(50:00):
can some of these states take alook at what is going on in let's
say New York based on what happenedyesterday. Not just yesterday, but let's
just talk about the damage done byChuck Schumer AOC go on and on and
on. We could throw California inthere, talk about the decades of degradation,

(50:21):
and at what point can the statesbe states again? And let's say
thirty six Red states get together andstart having conversations about, well, we
don't want New York as part ofour union anymore. You are not compatible
with this form of government. Clearlyyou've gone full socialists, you've gone Banana
republic. Everybody's okay in that stateto live that way. If that's your

(50:44):
choice, fine, and you're outor we're out, and you can take
this form of federal government. Youcan take all of Washington, DC,
take all those federal agencies. It'syours. We'll be as close to you
as we are with Canada and Mexicoand thirty six Red states. They say
we're done with you. You're andyou don't like us. We don't like

(51:07):
you, but clearly you are anational security threat when you can do something
like what we saw yesterday, onesmall example. It just keeps happening again
and again and again in these bluestates shred this constitution. Constitution. Is
there a precedent or is there anability to do that? With fifty landmasses
called states that came together, theywere the big thing and the federal government

(51:28):
was a small thing. And Ithink that's the only way we get back
to it. I think, ButI love your Europe. Under the constitution,
you can call for a constitutional conventionand do whatever the hell you want.
I mean, we do have thefreedom to engage in really any kind
of conduct we want along those lines. It just requires, you know,
enough states to join together to askfor that, and the people a lot
of people I talked to when youtalk about constitutional conventions and you know,

(51:51):
modifying, editing the constitution, otherwisechanging the structure or government, always worry
that, oh yeah, well,if you do that, it's going to
turn into some leftist, woke socialistform of government. But no, we
don't have to abide. It wouldhave to be adopted and ratified by the
states in order for that to bebrought about. I mean, the the
only other alternative I can see is, you know, actual armed revolution,
which I would never advocate, andreally just kind of scratch my head and

(52:14):
wonder how in the hell that wouldwork out for anyone, because the minute
you start engaging in fighting amongst yourselvesand in the government gets shut down,
and who's going to send out socissecurity checks, who's gonna you know,
make sure the water is pumping,et cetera, et cetera. It would
just be a monumental collapse, allowingour foreign adversaries the opportunity to come in

(52:34):
and run right over us because theyare unified and a well oiled machine.
Think Chinese Communist Party. So youknow, again, within the constitution,
I think you can do something likethat, But beyond that, I really
don't know. But the other thingis, and as you were talking about
these failures in Blue states, theyare living the reality of their failures.

(52:55):
Look at what has happened. Likeit was an organ they decriminalize all drugs,
they just do well, they gotrid of the law that decriminalized it,
and they recriminalized them. Why becausethe policy was an epic failure Open
borders welcome by the left, andlook at what an epic failure that's become,
so much so that you know,Democrat governors are screaming about it and
yelling about it, and even justread a report this morning Joe Biden thinking

(53:17):
about implementing some border security because well, he has the power to do it,
and he hasn't thus far, buthe's feeling it, and with an
election coming up and that being oneof the prominent issues, he's getting pushed
in a direction that he might nototherwise do, which is to shut the
border down. It failed. Defundthe police failed epically, and more and

(53:37):
more of these left wing governments orgovernors and local mayors and officials are now
embracing the police and wanting to hiremore because well, defunding the police made
the place a living hell. Anyperson who is objective and looking at any
of these policies objectively realizes that whatthe left does and what it continues to
do is terrible and ends up hurtingliterally everyone, including themselves, with the

(54:00):
lone exception of the few people onthe top who attend to enjoy the large
s that they have well doled outand created in well dug a giant deficit
hole with It's a failure. Theyknow it. Wish more people would pay
attention to who brought about these failurepolicies. Oh that's right. They're the
ones that left these blue states andheaded onto places like Florida where the policies

(54:23):
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Dave, welcome back, my friends. Always good to have you on the
show. Thanks Brian, always goodto be here. I like your second
topic, which I know my listenerswould be keenly interested, and we'll get
to that in the next section.AI impact on the election, But before

(57:19):
that, what are the top targetsfor cybercrime? Dave? Yeah, this
is you know, Brian, Idon't think going to come as any shocked
anyone. So the World Economic Forumrecently put out this report and it's it's
all the things that we've talked aboutso many times, but it's just further
confirmation that critical infrastructure in particular,and you know, the FBI has sixteen

(57:42):
categories of critical infrastructure that includes thingsthat we've talked about many times, like
the electrical grid and you know,power plants, water systems, dams,
transportation, that sort of thing.You know, they include healthcare in that
and there have been some you know, fairly devastating attacks recently unhealthcare. This
report pretty much shores all that upand focuses on those critical infrastructure items because

(58:06):
in many cases they just want tosteal money, but they know if they
can knock out a hospital with ransomware, for example, because of the nature
of what the hospital does and theimpact on real people's lives. They're a
lot more willing to pay a ransom. You know, they also know they
can steal sensitive health data from thesetypes of environments that they can use to

(58:31):
further extend the likelihood that someone willpay a ransom, or that they can
even go after the individual victims who'vehad their data stolen. So, you
know, it's the same kind ofthings we've seen over and over, Brian,
but it just reinforces in my mindit we're well past the point where
organizations have to take this stuff seriouslybecause now it's not just that your money

(58:53):
is stolen and that perhaps you knowit has a devastating or maybe even existential
pack on your business. It's realworld impacts from these attacks. So there's
a chart in this this report,and they break it down, you know,
the number of critical infrastructure attacks thatwere reported. Now this these are
European numbers in this particular case,but you can see in twenty twenty three

(59:16):
they say there were five hundred criticalinfrastructure attacks. You know, we're roughly
halfway through the year and not quiteon track for that now, but you
know, these these things are increasingrapidly and I just can't stress enough every
organization to take this stuff seriously,especially if you're in a critical infrastructure sector,

(59:37):
because you also then have the possibilitythat nation state actors like China or
Russia will you know, use theseto create chaos or you know, possibly
kill people in the place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I
was thinking, you know, ina nation's say like Chinese Communist Party,
and you know, they're engaged intwenty four our day, seventy a week

(59:58):
hacking. It's just constant. Andsome of these critical infrastructure as you know,
like power plans, grid operators,water, they are attacked multiple times
every single day, maybe even hundredsof times every single day. Efforts to
get it often fwarded, and thankfullyso. But I think also of okay,
that would be like say, inthe event of global conflict, China's

(01:00:20):
going to invade Taiwan, what dothey do? They attack our infrastructure to
keep us on our heels and dealingwith domestic problems. Large they would be
to the exclusion of having to dealwith the Chinese and militarily speaking or anything
else for that matter. What worriesme is the intentional like terrorist acts where
the goal is to kill people,and they could easily do that by shutting

(01:00:42):
off a power grid. It's likeflooding the nation with fentanyl. Very successful
operation. That one one hundred andfifty thousand people dead already in one calendar
year. What if they shut offthe electricity everyone who's on a ventilator,
Sorry, you're dead. Everyone whorelies on water, Sorry, sucks to
be you. Pumps need power towork, on and on and on and
on. And I know that soundshyperbolic to people. Broly, Now you

(01:01:05):
don't have to look very far tosee you know that every free letter government
agency is now warning about these things. Yeah, everything you said is true,
and it's in many cases probably moretrue than people realize. Like you
said, Brian, what if youcould derail a train full of deadly chemicals?

(01:01:29):
Oh, or you know you mentionedthe grid. What if you could
alter the chemicals in the water plantlike they've done that. Yes, exactly.
Yeah, we're already unnoticed on allof that, and we are noticed
that they're endeavoring to do that everysingle day, like you report on all
the time, like I read aboutevery day in the paper. I mean,
thousands of attacks on one single entity, and thank god they've got something

(01:01:52):
in place to at least, youknow, get a handle on that.
They at least know about that.But they found that Chinese installed malware on
almost whatever, government everything, everything. They had a modem on it,
right, and it took a whilefor them to locate that and eradicate it.
That stuff was on there for along time before they found it.
Well, and you know, Brian, you have a situation where you have

(01:02:13):
organizations where they have legacy technology.You know, it's old. Yeah,
it's hard to update, maybe itcan't be patched. It's it's a real,
I don't want to say crisis,but it's a significant problem and we
have got to take it seriously andas soon as possible. I'm getting yelled
that way. Over time, it'scould bring a AI and the election interference
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theories. Now that we have therailroad job from Donald Trump, people are
worried about election integrity. They havebeen since the twenty twenty election, if

(01:03:44):
not before. Uh. People areconcerned the election will be stolen. The
Democrats will stoop as low as theypossibly can to do anything to keep Trump
out of office and remain in dictatorialpower. That being said, how will
artificial intelligence impact that or any otheraspect of the election. Yeah, so,
Brian, We've talked about this before, and I think the concerns are

(01:04:04):
only growing as you see how rapidlythis technology has advanced in so many ways.
Now, I'll tell you it's beeninteresting if you follow this. There's
an increasing number of folks out therewho are kind of saying that the large
language model generative AI tools like chat, GPT and dally and others that have

(01:04:25):
gotten a lot of press are kindof reaching their limits from this technique.
And you know, they point out, and you may have seen some of
this yourself. If you get outon X you'll see people who are talking
about this, pointing out some ofthe just absolutely ridiculous answers you get from
some of these products, you know, and the whole the hallucination factor.
But the fact remains, especially whenit comes down to things like deep fakes,

(01:04:47):
these tools will allow you to createcontent very quickly. It's very realistic,
especially if you understand, like thehallucination capability of it just making stuff
up, and you know, theidea that you can and create a deep
fake video or audio, you know, clone someone's voice almost perfectly. That's
real technology exists right now. It'sreadily accessible. And that's just to the

(01:05:12):
general public. Who knows what youknow, some foreign adversary may have that
they might use to sow dissent,case cause, last minute interference, propaganda,
you know. And when you couplethen this technology, Brian, with
tools like TikTok, I mean,we've talked about that so many times,
and the ability to spread this stuff. And you know, would a nation

(01:05:32):
state actor like the Chinese Communist Partyhave an incentive, especially in light of
the situation with Taiwan, to attemptto interfere with an election in the US
using their platform and these tools.Yes, yeah, I don't. I
don't think that's well, that's that'sthat's really I don't think most people think

(01:05:56):
Brian and I don't understand why wegot to view them as a business entity.
They have a vested interest in fillingthe blank. Like any business,
what do you have? The profitis a bottom line, That's what business
is. You're in the business tomake a profit, Okay, Well,
the Chinese Communist Party is in thebusiness to control and be the dominant global
power to impact the United States election. To allow them to greater and more

(01:06:16):
likely achieve that goal is certainly intheir vested interest. And why wouldn't they
use something that they own and controlto do that. They'd be idiots not
to I think you're absolutely right,Yeah, why wouldn't they do it?
And we try to trust them,almighty, I would hope not in light

(01:06:39):
of you know, recent events,and you know, it's just I don't
understand why people. I don't knowif people just look at this and say,
Okay, I'm just going to go, yeah, all right. I
don't want to think about this.I don't want to realize the potentially negative
consequences, so I'm just going toignore it. Or they just can't grasp

(01:06:59):
this stuff is real. But Ithey can't give up their tic tac.
It's TikTok. It's so important forthem. Dave got to have my TikTok.
I don't care to being influenced andmy children are being fed perverted,
twisted pedophilia related uh uh uh commentsand and and and feeds and you know,
introducing you to pervert who might wantto take liberties with them. I
got to have my TikTok. It'sit's cool and my friends are all on

(01:07:23):
it. I won't see what myfriends are having to say if I'm not
on TikTok anymore. Yeah, it'suh, it's not good. And when
you look at back up the capabilityof these tools, I just can't stress
enough. People should go see forthemselves. Go out and create a chant
etp account, for example, andtry it. You know, you can
use it for free. Try Daly, which is another open AI product that

(01:07:45):
generates you know images, See whatSora can do. And in terms of
creating videos. And again these aretools that are readily available to the public
for free, are at low cost. You know, Microsoft has a product
and has a product it's well whoknow again what the Chinese Communist Party might
have in a lab that they couldgenerate exactly. I mean the technology from

(01:08:08):
government, you know, like therewas some NASA technology helped us in so
many ways. If we didn't fundthe Moonshot program, then you know,
you wouldn't have Tang or whatever.It does create opportunities for us. But
how many years does it take beforewe even find out that it exists?
Think of what if we have chatept at our fingertips at our immediate disposal.
Can you imagine what exists behind thescenes in whatever lab that alphabet or

(01:08:31):
the Chinese Communist Party has got cookingin the background. It's frightening as hell,
given what we know is already frightening. Let's pause, We'll bring Dave
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warrantless wiretaps on US soil. Yeah, I've been hearing about this for a
long time, Dave. Yeah,Brian, I think we've talked about it

(01:10:19):
and the build up to this renewalof seven oh two. This is an
interesting article. I encourage people togo read it for themselves. Again,
I'll put it in my notes fromtoday's show. But Wired the headline is
top FBI official urges agents to usewireless weren't taps on US soil. Subhead

(01:10:39):
is an internal email from FBI DeputyDirector paul A bat I'm guessing I may
pronounce it that wrong. Obtained byWire tells employees to search for quote US
persons unquote in a controversial spy programsdatabase that investigators have repeatedly missed US.
So that's Wired's where it's not.And Wired is not known as a right

(01:11:01):
wing news source. It's really atech magazine. And you know, this
gets into some interesting depth. Youknow, it talks about some of the
concerns and then they say here Soobtained by Wired, April twentieth, email
authored by FBI deputy director to employeestates quote to continue to demonstrate why tools
like this are essential to our mission. We need to use them while also

(01:11:25):
holding ourselves accountable for doing so properlyand in compliance with legal requirements. End
quote. You know, so he'sencouraging people to use this. Now,
this is an interesting take here quoteThe Deputy Director's email seems to show that
the FBI is actively pushing for moresurveillance on Americans, not out of necessity,
but as a default unquote, whichis US Representative Zoe Lofgren, a

(01:11:47):
Democrat from California. Then she goeson to say this directly contradicts earlier assertions
from the FBI during the debate overSection seven oh twos reauthorization unquote. So
you know, again there's a Democratsaying, is this is? You know,
they're doing exactly what they said theywouldn't do. This thing gets into

(01:12:08):
a lot of depth. Again,I would encourage people to go read it
for themselves. They explain how theytrack this, which I think is really
interesting. They say frequency FBI runsUS phone numbers or email through the seven
or two databases. Hazy Bureau firstbegan reporting the figure publicly in twenty twenty
one. Total number of times thesesearches took place was then two point nine

(01:12:30):
million. Since then, they've quoteupdated it's their accounting methodology to count only
unique searches. So if you runthe same phone numbers to the database multiple
times, that counts as a singlesearch. Yeah, oh shock, Yeah,
how convenient, they say. Then, as a result, the number
dropped to one hundred and nineteen thousand, three eighty three, and twenty twenty

(01:12:51):
two, and in twenty twenty three, under more stringent guidelines, it dropped
to fifty seven thousand. But again, if they're running your number multiple times,
it's not counted in that number.So again, folks should go read
this article for themselves and see howthey explain this in depth. I mean,
this whole program, it's just,you know, get a warrant.

(01:13:13):
It's just that simple. Yeah,that once against that I talk with Congress
and Weinstrop about this because he wasin favor of the reauthorization. But all
we've we've reformed it. We've reformedthere's two hundred and some odd different reforms.
It limits the number of people whohave access to this search capabilities.
And yeah, none of which reallygave me any comfort or confidence. Why
because the fourth amendment says they needa warrant to get any of my information.

(01:13:36):
They have to have probable cause accompaniedby a search warrant issue by a
judge who's passed on the issue thatthere is probable cause to justify the search
and seizure. Otherwise, I'm justa citizen and I haven't committed any crimes,
and they have no probable cause tobelieve that I have. So they
shouldn't be searching anything that I have. And I'm speaking on behalf of every
single one of my listeners who's notengaged in criminal conduct and who's not working

(01:13:59):
with foreign that to undermine the UnitedStates of America or commit crimes. Bah.
Yeah, I agree, Brian.Well here to elect a couple of
last points for run out of timefor Also from the article, the Senate
Intelligence Committee Chair Mark Warner acknowledged herreporters last week or this week. Now
this article is about a month old, that language in section seven oh two
needs to be quote fixed unquote,even though he voted last month to make

(01:14:20):
the current language law. And thenit also mentions there are a trade group
representing Google, Amazon, IBM,and Microsoft, among some of the world's
other largest tech companies concurred last month, arguing that the new version of the
surveillance program threatens to quote dramatically expandthe scope of entities and individuals unquote subject
to seven oh two. So yeah, and yet they went ahead and approved

(01:14:45):
it anyway. So yep. Itrequires all those organizations to also cooperate with
them to disclose the information that they'renow required to keep. Yes, your
cable company and pretty much anyone thathas access to this data. So again,
this is a good article. It'snot very technical. It explains it,
you know, a lot more detail. We didn't have time to get
into here. I'll link it,but I would encourage people to go read

(01:15:06):
it for themselves and then you know, contact their representatives. You. Unfortunately,
my representative, Thomas Massey has beenvocally against this for a long time.
So well, thank you on behalfof all of my listeners for continuing
to back and re elect Thomas Massey. He's one of the few good ones
we've got that still understands eliminating limitingpowers of the Constitution in the United States

(01:15:27):
of America. Dave Williams always theI'm sorry Tech Friday, Dave had or
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(01:15:47):
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I've been qualify my happy Friday toeverybody. Try to make it a happy
Friday. Now with standing in therailroad job that Trump just suffered through yesterday,
maybe to his benefit in the nation'sbenefit, might strengthen everyone's resolve.
Somebody's always trying to strengthen our resolveand mind where our taxpayer dollars are going.
Welcome back to the fifty five KRCMorning Show from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance,
which you can find online at ProtectingTaxpayers dot org. Dave Williams is

(01:16:55):
always a pleasure to have you onthe program. Good morning, Brian,
and boy day yesterday was I meanthirty four counts of guilty and I tell
you, I think a lot ofpeople are in shock as to what happened
yesterday. And start, Hey,Dave, Dave, I hate to interrupt
on your you're kind of breaking upand it's a little difficult to hear.

(01:17:15):
I can sort of make out everyword, but it's broken. Can you
move or otherwise move your phone arounda little bit? Yeah, let's try.
This is better. That's much better. So yeah, So, Brian,
yesterday was a crazy day. Imean, listen, thirty four guilty
counts and people are frustrated, andrightly so, you know, because what

(01:17:36):
they saw yesterday. In the lastmonth, I think there's just a lot
of distrust in the judicial system andI think it's going to take a long
time for that to really get healed. Oh, without question, without question,
there's been so much damage done toa multitude of government agencies with their
shenanigans. We're just talking with ourTech Friday guy about why a warrant searches

(01:18:00):
of our records through the section sevento AFIZA and violating our Fourth Amendment.
We have distrust over the Department ofJustice. We always since Lois Learner was
at the I r S, we'vehad issues with the I r S and
them being politicized, you know,the FBI working with social media company to
suppress information that doesn't fit into theirnarrative politically. I mean, it's all

(01:18:24):
around us, and the distrust isgrowing. And honestly, Dave, I
think it's intentional. If we distrustour own government, we start yelling and
bickering and hating each other for whateverdivision they're stirring. The pot of that
works to anyone who wants to underminethe US. This benefit And Brian,
what's crazy is you have the liberalswho back in the day in the ninth

(01:18:45):
in the sixties and seventies, youknow, didn't trust the government, right
and they were the anarchists and said, you know, the government is corrupt,
we don't trust them. Now they'reembracing the government. They're embracing big
government. You know, it's amazinghow they have changed in just you know,
a couple of generations where the distrustturned to we want more and bigger

(01:19:06):
government. So that's what I'm reallyconfused about, because the Left, they
should be on our side, theyshould be right there with us and not
trusting what anyone over forty. Wasn'tthat what they said, don't trust anyone
over forty exactly? These jeez Anyway, I love your first topic here,

(01:19:26):
moving away from Trump, because youknow we're being we're responsible as taxpayers here
in Hamilton County, Ontor the termsof the lease agreement. We have the
Cincinnati Bengals building that monstrosity getting alittle older. Now we're stadium dealing the
country, only to be surpassed,perhaps finally by the thing going on in
Jacksonville with the Jaguars. First off, what is the economic reality of building

(01:19:48):
a stadium? Is there a returnon investment at the outset? Does it
really bring in the taxpayer dollars thateverybody claims it does. Is it worth
it for us as taxpayers to supportprivate ownership operation of a professional sports team
or should they be onlook for itthemselves. Yeah, listen, Brian,

(01:20:09):
Stadiums don't create wealth, don't createeconomic activity, and we've seen this time
and time again, and economists havestudied this for decades. There have been
numerous studies that have been done.And what happens is you build a stadium
in a city, Cincinnati, Baltimore, you name it. What happens is
that people will go to the gameinstead of going to the movies. So

(01:20:31):
you're just moving one activity from oneplace to another. So you're not really
bringing in any sort of new businessto the city. And we see unemployment
rates stay the same, we seeper capita income stay the same or even
go down in some places. Butyou know, these owners, they say,
well, if you don't build astadium, you know the economic development

(01:20:53):
and I'm going to pack up mystuff and leave. Well, I mean,
is that a person that's really connectedto the city exactly? And if
you're threatening to leave the city,are they really connected to the city and
to the people and want a rewardto the fans who've been loyal and spend
money on merchandise and support the teamunwaveringly, you know, And the idea

(01:21:14):
of stadiums, generally speaking, seemsto be stupid to me anyway, because
everybody's got a giant screen TV andthey like cheaper beer, and they like
their own bathroom. They don't wantto go down town to park where it's
outrageous. They don't want to getmugged or robbed or anything else that might
happen when they're out in public.Why not just hang out at home,
watch it on television where you canhave great food, great beer, and
save yourself some money while still enjoyinga better view of the game with replays.

(01:21:35):
Huh. And here's how you creategood will in community. You pay
for it yourself. There you go. You don't ask the tax payers,
you don't ask the consumers to payfor it. You pay for it yourself.
That would be the most goodwill thatan owner could ever do in a
city. Amen. Amen, David. I've said words to that effect many

(01:21:56):
times. Now, let us doubledown on the fact that the don't bring
in revenue. As you point out, the dollars just get shifted as opposed
to extra money coming into any givenarea of the community. Now, it's
even worse when you're talking about astadium upgrade, isn't it, Dave.
Yeah, you already have the stadiumyou go place. Yeah, so people

(01:22:19):
are gonna either come or not come, and it really depends upon what's on
the field and how the team isperforming. It's not because you just put
a pool into the center field orinto you know, the end zone.
That's not what's going to drive people. It's going to be the product on
the field. So especially a binglesplash zone the Cincinnati Bengals splash exactly.

(01:22:46):
I love that. Bring your kids, drop them off at joy the game.
You know, oh, there yougo. But if you actually as
comical as that is, that's abetter argument than rehabbing the locker room,
which is exactly what they're doing atpay Court Stadium right now. What benefit
does anybody get beyond the players thatare making millions and millions of dollars a
year. And these are players thatwill leave at the drop of a hat.

(01:23:12):
You know, it's not the sizeof the locker, it's the size
of the paycheck that's going to bringthe players to it to a city.
Isn't that the truth? And yethere we stand and lay witness to what's
going on in Cincinnati as well asJacksonville. Jacksonville's outrageous. The taxpayers there
are going to be on the hookfor seven hundred and seventy five million dollars

(01:23:34):
for the renovation. This is aone point four billion dollar renovation. Yeah,
this is this is really insane.And this is an owner at some
point may actually move his team.There's talk of con that he's the owner
of the Jaguars who may move theteam to London. So this is a

(01:23:55):
billion dollars that may not even lastvery long in Jacksonville. And they're doing
it with tax increases. They're gonnahave, you know, sales tax increase
on certain activities within Jacksonville. Andit's gonna hurt. That's gonna hurt tourism.
Listen, if you're going to Floridaand you're well, hotels are more
expensive in Jacksonville than they are inDaytona Beach. I'm going to Daytona Beach.

(01:24:16):
I mean, this is the crazypart of it is they think that
they think they're being clever, andthey really aren't, because consumers a lot
are a lot more clever than ownerswill ever be. That's true. And
again, consumers have choices. Andif you're a big sports fan, like
I said, you know, Ienjoy watching a football game, I'm no
fanatic. I don't follow statistics.I don't even care you know who any

(01:24:39):
given player is on any given team. I like watching the game and the
strategy that's involved. It's entertaining andit's a breath of you know, it's
a nice refreshing alternative from the politicswhich I tend to be immersed in twenty
four to seven. So fine,I'll watch them, but you're not gonna
find me going out of the stadiumwhere I can't afford a beer at twelve
thirteen fourteen dollars a pop and locallySkyline Chili. Dave, you may not

(01:25:00):
be familiar with it, Skyline ChiliChili Conyes, okay, then you know
you know how much they are atthe Reds game. I was just at
a Reds game seven dollars for atiny little cheese six ninety nine. I
was walking around looking at the priceof food and beverages while I was there,
just as you know, just likea sociological experiment. I was laughing

(01:25:23):
my collective or my metaphorical butt offat it, like are you kidding me?
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(01:28:02):
ed or opinion piece or analysis Bidentax proposals ominous for American families. Dave
the details, Yeah, ominous isan understatement. And listen to Republicans and
Democrats have different ideas on how toincrease revenue for the government. The Democrats
want higher taxes, right, They'retrying to squeeze every little bit out of

(01:28:25):
us, out of corporations. Republicans, and we saw this in twenty seventeen.
You know, we cut tax ratesbecause we want to expand the tax
base. When you expand the taxbase, you can get more revenue at
and you have a lower rate.We saw this with lowering the corporate tax
rate. Businesses came back to thiscountry. When we reduced it from forty
to twenty one percent, businesses cameback. We saw bonuses that were given

(01:28:49):
out to people. So that's howyou expand the economy. What Joe Biden
wants to do is a couple ofthings. First, he wants to increase
the capital gains tax. You aregoing to just destroy investment in this country
because investment will go overseas if youincrease capital gains from twenty percent, which
it is now to almost fifty percentin some states because some states have a

(01:29:11):
capital game. In fact, you'regoing to destroy investment. That The thing
that is really I think going toaffect a lot more people is what he
wants to do with the death tax. Let's say fifteen years ago you buy
a plot of land, you owna farm five hundred thousand dollars. Today
it's worth two million dollars. Well, what he wants to do is if

(01:29:32):
you if you die, you haveto pay tax on that two million,
not the five hundred thousand. Sothis is not money that you have.
This is just what your equipment,your property is worth. So if you
own a farm, let's say youown a farm, go ahead. No,
that would be the two million thatsomebody says it's worth. To really

(01:29:55):
know what it's worth, you haveto put it on the open market and
you have to sell it to someone, which is the only time you're ever
gonna know what the property's value is. And there's the rub. Yeah,
you're gonna have to sell the equipmentto pay that tax bill, so you
can't pass that along to the nextgeneration. Is that you're gonna have to

(01:30:16):
that piece of equipment that's worth let'ssay one hundred thousand dollars, You're gonna
have to sell that. You can'tsell a part of it. You can't
say, well, my tax billis fifty grand, so I'll sell half
of this piece of equipment. Nowyou have to sell the whole piece of
equipment. And this is why it'sdestroying generational wealth. That's why point,
isn't it? Yeah? I mean, really, is that not the the

(01:30:38):
unspoken and nefarious part and point ofthis outrageous tax. It is And we
have heard from people across the country, and these are you know, these
aren't really super rich people. Theseare people that have put time and money
into their profession, into their land, and they are very concerned that there's
gonna be nothing to give to thenext generation, that they're going to have

(01:31:00):
to sell all their property, alltheir equipment, just to pay the tax
bill. And that's not what thiscountry was built on. I mean,
this country was built on passing wealthfrom one generation to the next and building
that wealth. And it's just it'sfrustrating when you and it won't work,
it won't raise enough revenue to reallydo anything for the deficit and debt that
we have. And that's the crazypart, Brian, is it's going to

(01:31:24):
be a drop in the bucket whenit comes to our financial problems. Absolutely,
and of course it will destroy theidea of even wanting to build something.
This is why I'd say it's anefarious reality. And you know,
the left and the hardcore ones amongthem, full on socialists, they don't
even believe that there should be privateproperty, in private ownership. It is

(01:31:45):
unfair that some child of a personwho built it all and earned all this
money, you know, a Rockefelleror a roth child, or even the
local business down the street, thatit's successful. How is it fair that
that's because you're born into that family, you should get the largest of what
your parents built, or your momand dad or somebody else that they don't
believe in that this is a wayaround that, this is a way of

(01:32:08):
destroying that opportunity and forcing everyone tostart from scratch. Yeah. And I
remember when tax reform was passed intwenty seventeen. Is I spoke to a
number of small businesses and they said, this is going to do so much
for our business. I can hiretwo or three more people. Now,
I mean, think about that,if you're a small business and you can

(01:32:29):
expand and hire two or three morepeople. We have thirty to forty million
small businesses in this country. Imean that has a real effect on the
economy. And that's why I thinkwe rebounded so quickly after COVID, is
that we had the economy in place. We had to tax structure in place
to be able to absorb a lotof the bad things that happened during COVID.
And now Democrats want to go theother way and want to increase taxation.

(01:32:53):
The rest of the world is wayahead of us when it comes to
tax competition and making sure that theyhave lower tax I mean, Ireland has
been the leader and having the lowestcorporate tax rate and you have the United
Nations. You have a lot ofthese global entities that are trying for Ireland
to change their taxes and to raisetheir taxes, getting rid of the individual

(01:33:15):
autonomy that any country has. That'sanother goal of the globalist and the left,
and that's one of the ways youdo it. You mandate a global
level tax that so there is nocompetition among countries. Hold on, we
got more. What is the debtper taxpayer information AC We're going to find
out. Dave's going to shed somelight on that. One more segment with
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One more segment with Dave Williams.The Taxpayer Protection Alliance again online Protecting

(01:35:51):
Taxpayers dot org. Great foundation lookingout for where our tax dollars are spent
in the abuses of government, whichis just never ever ending. Well,
day we could go on, wellI'll tell you, like I have you
on the program for four hours everyday Monday through Friday. We'd never make
it through at all. Let usdo it notwithstanding the unlimited nature of what
we could talk about. What isthe Debt per Taxpayer Information Act. I

(01:36:15):
love the simple pieces of legislation.And basically what this says is that every
public document that you that they haveto the federal government has to put the
debt per taxpayer, the debt andthe debt per taxpayer on these documents.
Now, imagine that you get yourW two form, you get whatever form
you get from the government, andit says this is how much you owe

(01:36:39):
in public debt. And you knowthis. This this reminds you of an
idea that I had years ago,and that's every time that Congress appropriates money
for an earmark, that you haveto put a plaque on that earmark that
says this earmark helped contribute to thenational debt. You know, because I
want taxpayers know, I want citizensto know that you know how much they

(01:37:00):
right now it's about one hundred thousanddollars per taxpayer in debt. I mean,
think about that one hundred thousand dollarsper taxpayer that's owed for the national
debt. We need to be remindedof that on a daily basis. And
it's yeah, and maybe right beforeelection time wouldn't be a bad idea to
remind people just how much they oweand debt. And listen, this goes

(01:37:24):
for Republicans and Democrats. Both partieshave gotten this to this point, and
there needs to be an awakening,some sort of awakening of the fiscal tea
party in Congress to address the deficitand the debt. This is I believe
the first step in doing that,and it's really simple, right is you're
the irs. You send out aW two form. You have to put
all this information on there and remindpeople on a constant basis. Oh if

(01:37:50):
they would only do something like that. But let me ask you this,
Dave, Because people have an expectationthat they're going to be getting whatever the
Social Security Department, and that mailingtells them they're going to be geting on
a monthly basis based upon their priorearnings. And some people look at that
bottom line figure and they think it'sreal, when in fact, the document
itself tells you upfront that this isa gas and there's no guarantee you're going

(01:38:10):
to get it. And with thefinancial projection of the United States the way
it is, I wouldn't be countingon that dollar amount being as big as
it is. I would think it'sgoing to be something pared down by the
time you're actually drawing it, that'sfor sure. And you know, just
I guess it was a month anda half ago Social Security that trustees came
out and said that it's going banktrupt a lot quicker than they thought.

(01:38:30):
Now, how much discussion have youheard by the Senate or the House on
that trustees report? I have heardzero. And I live in Washington,
DC and I've heard nothing. AndI am getting frustrated that members of Congress
aren't talking about these fiscal issues.And we're in an election year, so
we're going to see two things happen. We're going to see Biden spending more

(01:38:53):
money, whether it's another student loanbailout, there's still more students to bail
out. And we're going to seeRepublicans Democrats in Congress not talking about the
deficit of the debt. Now isthe time to talk about it, because
this is an election year. Thisis when we make those decisions ten twenty
thirty years ago is the time totalk about it. It's way past time
to talk about it. But ohno, Dave, it's the third rail

(01:39:15):
of politics. You're not going toget a politician of any stripe to say
out loud that they need to dosomething to fix Social Security, whether it's
extend the retirement aide to seventy orsomething, or start telling people, younger
people who haven't started relying on thatsystem that there's going to be a different
way down the road for them andeverybody prior that falls after them. Managing
expectations on a going forward basis.It's one of the reasons why you can't

(01:39:39):
touch the Social Security system. Toomany people have lived under the lie that
they're actually going to be getting whatthey're told they're going to get. I
mean, if we were just allowedto merely invest what they took out of
our checks for the Social Security programinto our own four to oh one k
or raw four oh one k orsome private retirement program, we ate be
a damn site better off as individualsthan if we relied on the federal government

(01:40:00):
and to do it like they havebeen ran. Think about this. You
have members of Congress who are tradingstocks, who are making millions of dollars
with inside information, Yet they don'tgive Social Security recipients the option to take
that money and invest it in thestock market. Congress obviously believes in the
stock market that it's going to makethem money. Why not give people the

(01:40:21):
option. I'm not saying the mandatedoption. Give people the option to do
this, and I think that thatwould be a game changer for retirees and
for the bottom line of this governmentfor sure, without question. Anyhow,
we need politicians with spines and peoplewho can appreciate the big picture, people
like you, Dave, and seeDave Williams for Congress someday. Dave,

(01:40:44):
it's always a pleasure having you onthe program. Keep up the great work
at the taxpayer Protection lines. I'llstartingly encourage my listeners check out your website
and book Market Protecting Taxpayers dot org. Until our next conversation, best to
health you and everybody there. Daveand I have a wonderful weekend. You
too, have a wonderful weekend,Brian, Thanks man, try to be
positive too. It's tough in thesetough times, I know it. Don
Heinrich Toltzman, It's going to beable to put a smile on our face

(01:41:06):
because we're going to talk about GermansDay celebration, kicking off the German festival
season, putting a positive spin ona Friday. We'll talk to Steve Gooden
after the top of the air newswith the sort of post Trump conviction.
Now what question Steve are legal expert? And then of course to smile on
our face at eight thirty because RonWilson returns to the studio. First though,
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fifty three degrees in time for trafficfrom the UC Health Traffic Center. U
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(01:43:24):
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the talk station seven forty if youhave KERCD talk station, try to have
a happy Friday, and then we'reall reeling from yesterday's outcome in New York

(01:43:44):
some believed to be a foregone conclusion. We'll see if it doesn't have people
undermining the their faith in the judicialsystem generally speaking. But it may turn
out inuring to Donald Trump's benefit.And talk a little bit more about that
later. But in the meantime,let's brighten up the day. Remember it
is Friday, and it is timeto celebrate all things German with the return
of hair Don Heinrich Toltzman tell youour resident expert. But that suggests you've

(01:44:08):
got an office here in the studio, Don, But it's always having on
the program. Get me talk toyou at Escape Mear God School. I
hope it is going well with you, and we think we need a time
to celebrate. We do to liftour brightness spirits of everybody and best way

(01:44:30):
to do it. I think wehave a good cause. So this is
the ninth German Day celebration we're goingto have this weekend and it will be
it begins the festival season. Wehave many festivals throughout the year and really
begins this weekend. And we dohave one of the oldest German Days in

(01:44:54):
the United States. It's been sponsoredby the German American Citizens since eighteen ninety
five, and it's in the umbrellaorganization many people who might not realize we
have in the Tri State about fortyGerman societies. We have members in Dayton

(01:45:15):
and Hamilton. In Indiana, wehave an Oldenburg in Annapolis, and in
Kentucky. Louisville has a chapter innorthern Kentucky. So it's really quite a
big organization. And our name reallyexplains, you know, who and what
we are. German American Citizens League. We promote and preserve German heritage and

(01:45:40):
we are exceptionally proud of and westress our American citizenship in this great country.
In everything that the German community herein the United States, the German
citizens of the United States did forthis country, not the least of which
was bring us some great beers.God bless each and every one. You

(01:46:01):
know, there's so many contributions peoplealways ask me about. And when you
have in our Triesdent area, whenthe more than half the population has some
German ancestry, so German heritage hasinfluenced just about everything in the area.
There's so many examples. And youmentioned brewing, but and there are many

(01:46:26):
other food items that we have hereand the German style architecture and over the
Rhine in Covington and Newport you cansee that there. But there are a
lot of influences that people don't reallyrealize our German background. For example,
we have a large concentration of banks, most of them were founded by Germans

(01:46:47):
who immigrants. One example I alwayslike to point out is the Fifth Third
Bank, which was originally the GermanNational Bank. So many influences, and
of course all the churches that wereestablished here and our organization also we helped

(01:47:09):
start Bockfest Octoberfest Cincinnati, and wehave established a German Heritage Museum in West
Fork Park on the west side oftown. So our German Day celebration is
a fundraiser for that, so welike to invite everybody to come out.
We did have a k tapping onWednesday at the Hofbra House to kick it

(01:47:32):
off, and tomorrow we have aprogram and parade at Finley Market, and
we love to be at Finley Market. It's a great old World market and
we're gonna have good food and drink. We begin at ten thirty. We'll
have all the German societies will bethere. The Donah Shauben dancers will be

(01:47:57):
there. We have a German bandthere there, Eines Musi Conton will be
there. And then on Sunday wecontinue at the Hofo House and we'll have
raffle prizes there all day, manygreat raffle prizes, and the grand prize

(01:48:19):
is a dinner party for thirty atthe Hofbra House that that covers uh a
great meal there excluding beverage beer andyou boys dragged four hundred dollars worth of
beer. Yeah, I would saytoo. We really begin the celebration of

(01:48:45):
German heritage. We have the GermanDay Celebration this weekend. Next weekend we
have the schwab And Fest of theDona Swabin Society and after that the Colping
Society has a shoot infest. SoI love this whole month kicks off at
a great way to begin it iswith a German Day of Celebration. As

(01:49:08):
I mentioned the one hundred and twentyninth. I mean it's been a basic
part of our community and we loveto celebrate. And the whole German heritage
is food and drink customs. AndI don't know if you say bita or
if you say please, many peoplesay please. Yeah here, that's uniquely

(01:49:30):
Cincinnati thanks to the Germans. Yeahplease, that means yes. So it's
really a really part of the wayof life away Cincinnati is a lot of
people when they come here, peoplegrow up with it and they become accustomed
to the way things are here.They come. But people when they come

(01:49:53):
here, they say, hey,wait a minute, this is really a
German heritage place, and that's somethingthat we like to celebrate. Well.
And the other thing is, andI've noticed this over the years in commented
on it many times, don everybodyis welcome. You do not have to
be German to enjoy this fun andgames. They are not going to excuse
you of cultural appropriation if you don'thave German blood in you for wanting to

(01:50:16):
celebrate things German. Thank you tothe Germans for this community. Thank you
for all that you brought to it. Thank you for the idea that when
you celebrate, you involve awesome foodand an opportunity for us to have an
excuse not just the day ending andwhy but let's drink because we're going to
have a fun celebrating Germany the Germanthings rather well, that's very true,

(01:50:38):
and everybody is welcome and as afestival for everybody to celebrate their own heritation,
what they have brought to this areaand we join together and celebrate all
the good things about our area andour community. Well. Saturday June first,
ten thirty am Finley Markets place tobe for the German Day kickoff with

(01:51:01):
all the events that Don's talking about. German Day Celebration hof brow House,
Newport Sunday the second between eleven amand Am Laughle Prizes the thirty dinner party
for thirty kind of thing. It'sjust going to be a great time,
as it always is. Har Holtzman, you know you're always our Tolsman.
Rather you're always welcome on the morning. Should celebrate all things German and get

(01:51:21):
people engaged and involved and well puttinga smile on their face and these rather
bleak times we find ourselves. Thankyou so much, Brian, and we
really appreciate and love all you doand your great support of all the German
societies and the German community. It'sreally appreciated. It is my distinct pleasure

(01:51:42):
and even though I don't have anyGerman in me, I feel like I'm
one of the crew. So Iappreciate your your your open arms, take
care of my friend. We willtalk against sin and best of luck on
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Lisa Baker. Happy Friday to youand who were looking for today. Happy

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it. Great, Lisa Baker,Hey, we got his picture on my
blog page. We'll find you havea wonderful weekend. And thank God for
this insint Police Department of what youdo each and every day. Coming up
on sevent fifty five, folks,and after the top of their news,
are going to dive back into theTrump guilty verdict. Yes, all counts.
It was a railroad job. Weall know anybody who's paid attention to
what happened to them throughout this trial. Now, what is the big question?

(01:55:17):
Yesterday we heard from Steve Gooden inadvance of the jury verdict. Today
we're going to hear from him aboutthe aftermath. Our legal expert in all
things criminal, Steve Gooden, returnsafter the top of our news and thank
god it's Friday. Ron Wilson ateight thirty to lighten things up, much
needed lightning up on a Friday inthe aftermath of yesterday's bad news. So
stick around you right back information you'rejust minutes away from your top of the

(01:55:43):
hour news update. We'll get thatinformation to them by Radio fifty five krc
D talk station. This three portalswhat happened Dan, hush money trial,
what's happening now? Guilty on allcounts? Your station for what happens next.
It's definitely not over fifty five carsthe talk station you fired eight oh

(01:56:04):
five and fifty five r CD talkstation. A very happy Friday. Tay
Ley's trying to make it so.I know it's a little difficult challenge,
or it is a bit of anuphill challenge after yesterday, and we were
lucky to have on the fifty fiveCARC Morning Show yesterday. My next guest
to return of Steve Gooden with PorterWright. Wonderful law firm it is,
and he's one of the great lawyersat Porter Right and he's here to comment

(01:56:24):
on the aftermath. Steve, welcomeback and love to have you on the
program all the time. You doa wonderful job with your legal analysis.
Really impressive yesterday, and you andI I think maybe one of the few
people in the entire listening audience orcollective that includes you and I that had
some hope that one of the jurorswould see through this nonsense and find reasonable

(01:56:45):
doubt, which I think we couldknow, we do know could it could
have easily been been found apparently notunanimous guilty on all counts. And I
think that all counts, it waseither going to be not guilty or guilty
on all counts. Right. Therewasn't some of middle ground there considering these
raw payments for one particular payoff.Right, that's exactly right. You,

(01:57:08):
if you were a juror, youeither bought the prosecution's very unique theory here
or you didn't. This was reallyan all or nothing. And that's why
I thought Trump's best shot was ata hung jury, which is that one
or two jurors might just say,look, I don't buy this. I
think the evidence is flawed, wedon't buy Michael Cohen. Or I think

(01:57:30):
more likely that we just simply don'tbuy the prosecution's theory that everything Trump did
here was somehow related to the election. But I do think that the judge's
jury instructions, which were the realmonkey wrench I guess thrown into this at
the last minute, really did openthe door to the conviction. And after

(01:57:51):
we spoke, the jury instructions botheredme. I took another look at them,
and I think that's clearly what wenton here. The judge essentially told
the jury and the instructions that theycould find Trump liable criminally even if he
was not directly involved in directing thepayments. If they felt that somehow he

(01:58:12):
had implicitly directed the payments, thatwas good enough. And you see the
jury having those portions of testimony readback to them that dealt with this sort
of supervisor of supervision that Trump allegedlyhad to the payments, albeit from a
distance. And I think that's probablywhat convicted him well. And that's kind
of hard to believe because there reallywas no direct evidence, at least unless

(01:58:35):
you believe the admitted liar, MichaelCohen. But the conspiracy is that,
you know, it prohibits conspiracies topromote political candidates by unlawful means. Well,
Donald Trump would have had to beendirectly involved in that in order to
be part of a conspiracy. Butwhat unlawful means. Dia said, what

(01:58:56):
three different things I was just readingfrom the Wall Street General. First,
hush money effectively and illegally large donationof the Trump campaign. Second, more
business filence were falsified, including bankrecords for mister Cohen's wire transfer to Stormy
Daniels or Third, fall statements weremade to tax authorities. Since Trump's repayment
of Cohen was structured as income thatwas grossed up to cover taxes he would
need to pay on it. Sothree different things, and they didn't have

(01:59:18):
to unanimously agree on what exactly ofthose three things he did in order to
reach a unanimous conclusion that it allcollectively amounted to this felony. Has this
ever been done before where there wasn'trequirement of unanimity in terms of the underlying
facts leading to this trumped up federalcharge. Absolutely not. And that's one

(01:59:40):
of the reasons I think the appellatecourts are going to have a field day
here. And I think it's alsoone of the reasons why folks, when
they take a look at this,are not going to regardless as a traditional
conviction. I mean, look,this particular charge structured this way has never
been used against any of them.The prosecutors agreed to that. In fact,
if you also read the Wall StreetJournal did a very good job that

(02:00:01):
the of laying out how the formerprosecutor in Manhattan as Cyrus fans who preceded
this, Eldenbragg, again a veryCyrus fancy, an elected Democrat, democratic
loyalty, his father, very deeplyinvolved the national political politics, refused to
bring these charges because he felt thatthey were not legally sustainable and would not

(02:00:24):
survive on appeal even if there wasa conviction. And we touched on this
yesterday. If you look at thejury instructions, what they essentially say is,
you know, this charge as structuredis whatever the prosecution says it is
today. And when you take awaysomeone's liberty in our system, you have

(02:00:46):
to have the criminal charge has tobe exceptionally well defined. You either stole
something or you didn't. You eitherkilled someone or you didn't. You either
possessed the drugs or you didn't.There's a lot of really strong black lives
in the criminal system. It's notas loose as it is sometimes at a
civil lawsuit, where you're just tryingto prove that somebody most likely more likely

(02:01:08):
than not engaged in some conduct thatcosts someone money or took away someone's job,
or whatever the case may be.And the criminal context, we've always
had a higher standard. Our constitutionrequires what they call specificity in charging,
and criminal laws are often struck downfor being void for vagueness, and I
think that's what's likely going to happenhere. But the jury instructions I think

(02:01:31):
were the key. And I thinkalso you know, Trump was in a
tough position. He didn't testify,and I know we have a constitutional right
in the Fifth Amendment not to testify. That this would not be the first
jury that didn't implicitly punish a defendantfor not getting up and telling his side
of the story. I mean,that does happen. That's an unfortunate thing

(02:01:53):
we see in our system in allkinds of criminal cases. You know,
there's there's probably is a point,there's a human nature element. I think
jury got lost to you. I'mnot sticking up for them, but I
can also I have seen this happened. Or you're sitting in a courtroom for
three weeks, the defendant sitting thereshaking his head, and his attorneys are
cross examining witnesses. But there's ahuman nature element to saying, well,

(02:02:13):
why don't you just get up andtell your side here? Mister Trump what
he ought, for obvious reasons,could not do because I think he would
have entered into a series of intoa cross examination about Stormy Daniels and about
his personal life. That would havebeen very difficult for him, but politically
and personally on that Stormy Daniels point, I'm glad you brought that up.
Had and I had a conversation withDePaul A Tano about this because I'm thinking

(02:02:36):
to myself, all along, well, allowing Stormy Denis to testify, but
all these salacious details of this thissexual act that she claims happened, and
whether or not it happened is immaterial, but that she was allowed to testify
of that, about that bringing allthis damning information that had nothing to do
with the charges that were the fixwas in obviously from the get go,

(02:02:57):
because we don't even know what theultimate claim was for a long time,
but that they let her testify.That there was a mission, there was
a non disclosure agreement. He didpay her. We all knew that,
and that was what was the pointof paying her the money to keep her
quiet. That is not illegal andit's done all the time. So that
was the point that was you know, conceded by the Trump side. Yeah,
she was paid off. I didn'tdo it, but you know what,

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it is a lot cheaper to giveher one hundred and thirty grand than
it was for me to you know, get this out in the in the
papers and litigate it and go onand on and on and on, just
going to buy her off and tellher to shut up. So having her
testify allowed all that into evidence,which is very prejudicial to the jury.
I'm sure it made him look badobviously, but as when I'm when I

(02:03:38):
brought all this up to Neapolitana,when I was speaking when he said,
well, Donald Trump's kind of lawyersare kind of at fault for that because
they brought it up and he deniedthat it ever happened. Bringing that or
allowing that evidence into into the trial. Is that your view of it as
well, Steve Gooden, You know, it is with a couple with a
couple different, with a couple oftweaks. I do think that was a

(02:03:59):
big miss on Trump's team. Ithink they had two misses. One was
by saying in the opening statement thathe denied that it happened, which did
open the door for the judge toallow Stormy Daniels to come in and testify.
They did that. If they havebeen more careful in the opening statement,
that's fine, But even again,we don't know what happened between Trump

(02:04:19):
and his lawyers. Trump may havespecifically denied, they told them to deny
that, and that is something youknow, you are You're always good as
your client, no circumstances. SoI don't want to throw the lawyers under
the bus on that too much.We don't know what happened there, but
absolutely they said in their opening statementthat he did this in part to protect
his family, and that he deniedthat it ever happened. So therefore it

(02:04:42):
really did open the door. Andeven though there were many farcical elements of
this trial, that's one that Idon't think is going to have much legal
significance now. I think the worstmiss that his attorney's made in regard to
Stormy Daniels was not cross examining herproperly. There was right after she tests
the comedian Bill Maher released an oldtape from his interview with Stormy Daniels,

(02:05:06):
which directly contradicted big chunks of hertestimony, and it was something that it
didn't contradict whether or not they hadsex, but this whole sort of coercion
me too aspect of it all thatshe testified about, and she really made
Trump sound like a bully who wasblocking her in the room. Here she

(02:05:27):
is on this program about six sevenyears ago, laughing about it, joking
about it, even specifically says say, this wasn't a me too thing.
I went up there. I thoughtthis was funny. I thought this would
make a great story. And therewas a piece of evidence that's out there,
it's been out there publicly. Andthe idea that they didn't go through
her interviews better and really didn't attackthat part of the story I think was

(02:05:49):
a major miss for them, becauseshe really did, in her testimony make
Trump sound like he more or lesscoerced her, and that just simply based
on her prior segments, wasn't thecase? All right? You mentioned pressure
in the jury, and you know, the idea and going back to the
jury instructions not being with the jurorsagain, I find that baffling, but
apparently that is the norm in NewYork. But a lot of my listeners

(02:06:13):
have called in, you know,if they fixed was in they were concerned
about that. Maybe there was somepressure brought on some individual jury life behind
the scenes, someone got a phonecall threatening them, or they were worried
about being docksed on social media orsomething. And my only retort was that
is, I have no evidence ofthat, but that concept, that ability
to interfere is a possibility in literallyany criminal or civil case that involves a

(02:06:39):
jury. Yeah, no, itabsolutely is. And in fact, you
know, a lot of the ifyou just locally, if we recall,
you know, a lot of thepost trial motions and so forth in the
sentenceel cases of the jurors social mediafeeds and whether or not they had been
you know, had seen you know, anyone had sent them press clippings,
or they had somehow violated things.So I think there were I would not

(02:07:00):
be surprised if the Trump team doesn'tdelve into some of the social media of
the jurors and try to see whetheror not they were tampered with in some
regard. But you know, someof this is just part of the whole
people jurors sometimes do self select here, and it's just part of you know,
our weird you know, cultural,you know, kind of situation that

(02:07:21):
we have here. It's like thelike I heard a comedian say the other
day, you know, and thiswe sent a self censor ourselves. No
one wears a Trump shirt to thetrendy coffee house, no one wears a
Biden shirt to a NASCAR event.These jurors probably in some way like gosh,
you know, they probably got thememo that it will be tough to
go back to their you know,neighborhood there in Manhattan. As the as

(02:07:44):
the folks who said not guilty,I mean there probably was and whether it
was you know, implicit or direct, a real social pressure to toe the
line. But I really do thinkat the end of the day, the
jury was feeling this was this judgedid a master class and putting a on
the scale and sort of sort oftilting everything within his power, from jury
instructions to demeanor declaring the courtroom toobjections, to sending every signal he could

(02:08:11):
to the jury about what he youknow, what was expected of them,
which is a conviction here well,and really kind of demands asking him a
question could is it even possible forsomeone of Trump's prominence in name recognition on
a national scale, a global scale, for him to get a fair trial.
I mean, this is why youmove to change venues, get out
of the neighborhood where people are biased. PG sitting. Philip asked for a

(02:08:33):
change of venue because he felt,you know, the jury pool might have
been biased against him. Everybody knowsabout him, he knows his name,
and go someplace where, well maybethey're not even from who PG is.
You can't go anywhere that somebody doesn'tknow something or have some opinion about a
guy like Donald Trump. That's absolutelyright. That's one of the reasons why
this was This was sort of afarce from the beginning, and and one

(02:08:56):
of the reasons why I thought,you know that that well, frankly I
was. I was in the champfor folks who felt that the charges should
have never been brought again. Youknow the old story of you know what
my boss told me at the prosecutor'soffice years ago. If you if you
have a novel theory on a criminalcase, you know, don't bring it
like you you know, if it'snot very clear what the person did you

(02:09:16):
have an obligation and the interest ofjustice and not to bring the case If
you have to be if you haveto be creative in the grand jury room,
then something's wrong well or in thiscase not articulate trial here and in
this case not even articularly what thiswas a big crime is until the end
of the trial, right me,Lord Steve Good and find him at Porter
right. You can find him onlineat porter right dot com. Steve,

(02:09:37):
thank you so much for your eloquenceand your your wonderful legal analysis and thoughts
and comments. I truly appreciate it, and I know my listeners love hearing
from you as well, and I'lllook forward to having you on again,
hopefully someday. Sin You're way tookind. Have a good weekend, No,
I mean, from the bottom ofmy heart for my friend, you
have a wonderful weekend as well.Steve Good in eight nineteen fifty five,
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(02:12:01):
does know. He is Wilson RonWilson black Man in the studio, which
is such a beautiful and wonderful thingwhenever he's here. But given the aftermath
yesterday and the sort of feeling ofanger, resentment and railroading, and I
think it's a great, even betterday to have Ron on to lighten things
up, get away from the politics, and put a smile on people's faces

(02:12:24):
by talking about outdoor activities, gardensand planning and gardening. Trump's at all
there you go, well stated,Thank you so much. It's something we
can all agree on. Even ifyou don't like the garden, you get
the benefits of looking at it,which I appreciate today and in honor of
that very point and my wife's gardeninghobby, which she truly enjoys. I

(02:12:45):
want to wish her again a happybirthday. I outkicked my coverage Wilson,
as you know, and I recognizethat, and I say it all the
time. I'm painfully aware of it. But it is probably the best decision
ever made in my life, wasconvincing her that it might be a good
idea to marry me. So thirtytwo years of marriage next month, and
just want to wish yours a veryspecial happy birthday. Do you have many

(02:13:07):
friends that have thirty two years ofmarriage to the same wife? Very few?
So I've got a lot of friendsare divorced. I don't have it.
Watch I say the same life,because they, you know, have
maybe the two added together come upwith thirty two years. Yeah. No,
I can't say that that there arethat many. I still introduce my
wife of your first fifty years,this is my first wife. I know
people who do that. I thinkthat's it's a measgen. It always gets

(02:13:30):
like what, huh, who whatit's my first wife? Yeah? Oh
my? Anyway, until I gothit WHATSPIRER quit doing it so well.
No, actually she thinks it's funny. It is funny. So what's on
what's on the topic of agenda?I don't know, sho did, didn't
bring anything nothing. Yeah, I'mjust here. Okay, planet, a

(02:13:50):
tree, planet, tree or two, or to show me, show me
the flair, the flair, theflair, the roof flair. It's coming
up more more all the time,you know, And I do every show
I talk about planting trees. Nowimportant they are. But one of the
issues that we continue to see isin many cases of planting trees too deep

(02:14:11):
or plants too deep. That's somereason folks sometimes feel like they've got to
stick that thing really tauted in tothe ground deeply. My dad was always
one planet deeper. He always sawyou had a planet deeper. And you
know, I came back from theOhio State University said no, Dad,
you know you got to plant themhigher. And he was like, no,
we're on your plant you know.Anyway. One of the things that
comes up a lot that arbor seedown the road, when trees start to

(02:14:33):
decline. They may have trunk diametersof four or five, six, seven
eight inch diameter, but starting todecline over time to go in with an
air knife or an air spade andthey blow all the soil away from the
top to take a look at whatthe root system looks like down below.
And those air spades are great becausethey don't disturb anything. They just blow
the soil away. I had neverheard of such a thing. Yeah,

(02:14:54):
it's really it's really interesting that theybecause now they can take a look at
the roots without disturbing anything. Tojust blow the soil away from it.
That's cool, take a look atit, and then can put it all
back. Actually it helps because itkind of churns up the soil, breaks
it up for it, and thenyou put it back in there. As
a matter of fact, they'll they'lldo that sometimes and actually create these trenches
kind of blow it up away fromthe if the if it's really compacted,
they didn't put it all back,and it does help, but it gives

(02:15:16):
them an opportunity to take a looklook at the roots without causing any any
damage to their rooms. And spadewould obviously tear up some rootsystem, yeah
if you started digging around there.So anyway, they're they're seeing a lot
more or not a lot more,but they're finally seeing that the and this
may have been happening all along andnow they can see it. But trees
that were just planted too deep,and you know the where they were either
too deep in the nursery, toodeep planted in the container, or a

(02:15:39):
combination of too deep there. Andalso when we went to planet planted it
too deep as well in the ground. So what happens is, you know,
if you look out in the woodsand all the trees, what do
you see at the base of thetree. You see those roots, You
see that flare you know that's comingout. Oh, that's what you meant
by flat, that's the flare.Root flare. Show me the flare.
Show me the root flair. Littlebuttons on your ear, you know,

(02:16:00):
far the root flare. And that'swhy I say that's the new theme is
show me the flare, Show methe root flare. And so when you
plant these trees, you want towhether it's in a container or bald and
bur lap, you want to pullthe soil away from that plant and as
far as it goes down to taketo find the top set of roots.
That top set of roots of coursebeing the root flare. That root flare

(02:16:20):
should be at soil level, sothat as the tree starts to grow,
that root flare is always there.Folks are always trying to cover up the
roots on their trees in their yards. Right, well, that root flare
should be there. Look at it. Look at the way that you know,
Mother nature does it anyway. Surfaceroots are a different story. And
I understand the situation there and andit's going to happen because that's just where
soils are. But is a problemover those surfaces, yeah, you know,

(02:16:41):
and but that's but again, youknow, you have to think about
all the root system for our treesare in the top eighteen inches of the
soil. You can tree and fallover. And I always challenge people with
the yardstick, go out there andfind me any root on that tree that's
deeper than a yardstick, and youwon't. I don't care. If that's
a four foot trunk diameter on anoak tree, it won't be any deeper
than eighteen twenty four inches maybe thirtyof the man No tap roots, we

(02:17:03):
don't have those here. Why isthat? Because everything that's happening is in
the top eighteen to twenty four inchesof the soil, all the oxygen,
all the moisture all the nutrients.That's where it is, so they're going
to grow there. And if you'vegot turf around them and you're feeding the
lawn and watering on a regular basis, those roots are going to go to
where all the sources are. That'swhy it happens. But point being is

(02:17:24):
this, you want to plant thosetrees so that the root flare, the
first layer of roots coming off thetrunk of that tree are at or just
slightly above soil level. And sosometimes when we go to plant these trees
and unfortunately in a container they buythe nurses get in liners their bare root,
they put them in the pot,they put potty soil around it.
During that process, it can settlea little bit, sure, and so

(02:17:46):
you've got to pull that soil awayto find that top root and that's the
top of the ball when you goto plant it in the ground. If
you don't do that, eventually itcreates these other roots that come out around
the trunk of the tree. Theystart to cause other problems, They start
to girdle the tree and all thosetypes of things. So we're seeing that
happening a lot more all the time. So the point is show me the

(02:18:07):
flare when you plant the trees,show me the flair. I always learn
something from you every week, orn Don Ron, Bill Paul. It's
okay, give me a break.I got a lot on my mind today.
Thirty six. I want to bethirty seven. I got I'll have
one more question about the planning ofa tree. We come back, but
first I want to mention my friendsat butter Or Motors, and I truly
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(02:18:30):
and they will you. You're workingwith one of the Herbert fans.