55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Steve Goodin, Robert Sprague, Jack Windsor, Cory Bowman

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Five o five at fifty five KRC the talk station. Friday. Yay,
some sense will a vacation.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
There.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is a woo hoo for Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
All right?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well asking Joe Strecker questions, not hearing him. I heard
him that time. Uh it is Brian Thomas right here.
Glad to be the host of the fifty five Casey
Morning Show, especially on a Friday where I feel a
little bit lighter. I don't know why, I guess just
the reality is we go into a weekend. We've got
some great plans going on this weekend, and hope you
can stick around all morning. What an amazing show, Joe
Trecker Man, This is the kind of lineup that just

(00:52):
really puts a big smile on my face. And by
the fact I always have a smile on my face
on a Friday morning. Coming up Tech Friday. Love talking
to Dave had her Tech Friday Today. Children at risk
for identity theft. From here we go. A new word
we can learn together today, sharonting. Okay, another topic, another
stupid new TikTok trend, which is basically boiled down to

(01:17):
creating home invasion photos with artificial intelligence in order to
scare parents into calling nine to one one that that's
even a thing if you sit back and make up
something extraordinarily stupid whole cloth, go ahead and sit down,
come up with something that's dumber than that anyway. Plus
the TransUnion data breach, so your big credit Union another

(01:41):
data breach. Been through that one before. We'll hear about
that from Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, Steve Gooden, counsel candidate
Steve good and lawyer extraordinary Steve good and Steve good
for the law from a porter right returns to the
fifty five Carescing morning show to give us a lowdown
on his campaign. What's going on with that? Plus apparently
getting involved in a social media bickering with Irish Rowley,

(02:02):
which I guess is not difficult to do. My understanding
is if you mentioned her name, you're gonna end up
in some social media back and forth. That is, if
you choose to engage in social media. Steve Gooden, as
a candidate for office, must do that, I suppose to
some degree in spite of the fact that my employer
is not happy with me for it. You know, you
don't necessarily have to engage in social media if you

(02:25):
don't want to, don't do it. I have a minimalist
presence out in the world at social media, and I'm
actually kind of proud of that. You can find me
on Facebook and you'll see me wish you a happy
Friday every Friday, as I did this morning. Let you
know where a listener lunch is, and maybe post a
picture of the Doberman or my grandkiddy ash Anyway, we'll

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hear from the current Treasurer Robert Sprague, who's running for
Secretary of State. Robert Spragge joins the program after Steve
Good and Steve at seven oh five. Robert Spragg at
seven thirty. We'll get the latest on the campaign. What
is the Buckeye Business Loan program? Plus Ohio's to begin
accepting cryptocurrency as payment for state services? How's that going
to go? That's always like piece of God for me,

(03:13):
cryptocurrency anyway, Jack Windsor at eight oh five, editor in
chief of the iiO pres Network. Jack returns at eight
o five to talk about dwines war on Hemp and
Bill Sitz's property tax plan. The board that was created
after Governor de wine vetoed some of the tax relief
provisions in the budget. He promised big things from this

(03:36):
board of harumphers, Bill sites on that board. We're going
to find out what they came up with. Jack Winsor
is going to explain it to me, because the reporting
I read on it it was again also like the
piece of God. It's like what I don't even really
quite understand what the proposals are. So smarter people to
me joined the program like Jack Windsor to get this
out and educate all of us on that. Finally, Joe

(03:58):
Strecker cracking me up this morning eight thirty. Did you
watch the debate last night between Corey Bowman and have
to have Parvall? I'd love to hear from you. If
you did, please call five on three seven four nine
fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three
talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Have
to acknowledge I couldn't watch it. I was just I
go to bed at eight and last night I was

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just I was nodding off before even eight o'clock. So
I have to admit that we'll hear from Joe's got
it on the rundown. Jd Vance's half brother joins the
program at eight thirty to talk about the debate, the
aftermath and if social media comments. And I did go
to Facebook this morning and a lot of people said
he did a fantastic job, some describing after Provoll as

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arrogant and a bit of a well we give an
award era in the fifty five KRSE morning show, typically
in the five o'clock hour, and some are suggesting maybe
after a parvall was worthy of the award. If you
saw the debate, you can let me know one way
or the other, who won the debate? What you who
you thought made bet points? He thought came across as
a more credible candidate. I saw that they were talking

(05:05):
about crime right out of the gate. Is the city safe?
Do the candidates believe this city stafe? And all the reporting,
all the crime statistics show that violent crime is down,
violent crime is do but however, we do have an
uptick and property crime which is well reflected in certain
areas in downtown Cincinnati. Everybody seems to believe that crime
is a serious problem in downtown Cincinnati, notwithstanding what the

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crime stats suggests. Corey Bauman suggested that these cities response
to crime has been a little too late. I think
he's got a valid argument on that we have all
these beatdowns which result in the city reacting, what do
we get in the aftermath of the multiple beatdowns? We
had the stabbing of Sarah Herringer's husband in their apartment,
and over the rhyme, we had Holly, who's been on

(05:47):
the fifty five Ksey Morning Share, receiving an undist without question,
an inexcusable, inexplicable punch of the face for doing literally nothing,
which was the result a reaction, which is what Corey
Bauman pointed out. You know, you're being reactive, not proactive.
Maybe if we had a bigger police presence in downtown

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Cincinnati before that beatown occurred, that might never have happened.
That kind of suggestion, which I think makes sense. Proval
said he believes statistics show that the crime is down,
but he doesn't believe that matters to the residents who
believe that it is very dangerous out there. He said,
what matters is what's in the hearts and minds of Cincinnatians.

(06:28):
That's a good point, perception. What people's lived experience is
a lot more important than reality what the crime statistics day.
And I know a lot of people believe the crime
statistics have been fudged. I mean, if you can't even
fight out there's a felony murder on the criminal docket
when you look, because the clerk courts took them off

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of the criminal docket, you might not have a real
good perception of what's actually going on in terms of crime. Sorry,
I had to interject that because we recently found that
that was going on. So he said, what matters is
the hearts and minds of the Cincinnatians. Many of them
don't feel safe, which is why the city council moved
quickly to prioritize visibility. For the first time in a

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very long time, Parvall said, police officers are out of
their squad cars and walking to beat. Isn't that a
concession of Corey Bowen's part that you've been reactive. For
the first time in a very long time, police officers
are out of their squad cars and walking to beat. Well,
why did it take so long to do that? Par
of All promised that we're going to continue to hiring
police officers. He'll continue to work with the police department,

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who did not indorse him. He actually got asked about
the FOP since they didn't endorse him and voted no
confidence earlier this year. He addressed the state how we
would win their support back. Parvoll was asked about that,
he said he works to collaborate with the police. Talking
about the recruitment initiatives this council, he said, as opposed

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to the past, as invested in recruit classes every single year,
and we continue on that path, we will hit the
compliment that we need at some point in the future,
I might interject, we don't know when that's going to happen.
It's a little difficult getting police officers to actually well,
getting people actually to apply for the police officers to roll.
And if you get brand new people that got to
go through a recruit class, which takes like six months

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or more, you can only do a couple of those
a year. So you're trying to do lateral hires. And
there's only so many people out in the world that
are at a police department that might be willing to
come to the City of Cincinnati. Where I think the
perception is the government, the city council and the mayor
and the city manager don't really seek to get along
well with the police. Officers. Most of them are comprised
the folks who have been part of the defund the

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police movement. So go ahead and work toward that goal.
We can't get an immediate compliment. That's the problem. What
do you do with the with the resources you've got now.
So Bowman was endorsed by the FOP also noted that
the Firefighters Union didn't endorse AFTAB proval either. I don't

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know that they hasn't endorsed Bowman, but they specifically have
refused to endorse AFTAB proval. Housing. Here's an interesting one.
Canaidate's asked to address the housing development like in Hyde Park, which, really,
if I may be frank at the five o'clock hour,
pissed off the residents of Hyde Park. That's why it
got a signature initiative to get it on the ballot.

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Didn't have to do that because the city backed off
on its well dictatorial mandate that they were going to
do in Hyde Park what the city council told them
to do and they would have no say in it.
So you're walking into a real problem in that kind
of line of questioning. So what about Hyde Park? Bowman
said that it's the job of elected officials to reflect
the will of the voters. Interesting concept that one representative democracy,

(09:51):
pointed out by Corey Bowman. That's the reason you're in
the office. He criticized the Connected Community plan as well
he should, He said, the Hyde Park development was the
first time that we're seeing what is this connected Community's
issue is about. It's about city hall dictating what the
zoning needs to be for our communities without considering the
voices of the communities. Well, stated good point Corey Bowman.

(10:12):
That's exactly why the city capitulated and withdrew its imposition
of its plans on Hyde Park. I love Purvol's response,
pointing out Cincinnati, He's in a housing crisis and we
need affordable housing. Now, what is affordable housing? Market forces
are going to dictate that to a large degree, unless,

(10:33):
of course, you do a zoron mom dommy rent control
kind of thing doesn't exactly inspire investors that might otherwise
build housing if you're going to dictate what the rent
can be. Nobody suggested that yet. But what is affordable
housing and how do you bring it about? It's a
big question. We're going to do Section eight housing that
kind of thing, So he said the city's previous zoning

(10:57):
laws were hindering progress. Talk to Corey Bowman about that
the previous zoning laws were hindering progress, but they were
preventing people from actually investing in buildings. He had area
of folks in his area that wanted to put in housing.
They wanted to do their own thing. They had ideas
that might make the builder or the rehaber, as the

(11:18):
case may be, profit, and all kinds of hurdles were
thrown down in front of those efforts by oh the
city its regulations, its rules, and its vision for what
is approved or what will be approved of what won't
be approved. Purwell said that they sometimes need to disagree

(11:41):
with residents, they being the city council of the mayor
in one part of town, in order to address the
needs of the residents in the entire city, so Hy Park,
you must capitulate to the broader needs of the collective
city of Cincinnati, even though your neighborhood is completely separate
and different from say, Bond Hill or any other of
the fifty two neighbors in the neighborhoods in this Cincinnati.

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I don't know. We're going to do the hard, sometimes
unpopular work of building housing across Cincinnati because poll after
poll shows you we need housing and we need more
specifically affordable housing. Huh. I think anyone could just generally

(12:26):
say we all might want affordable housing. Affordability is really
I suppose a question of individual family income. What is
and what is not affordable? Anyway, questions about immigration and
the worst the Trump administration did come up. How are
you going to work with the Trump administration? Among others?
Did anybody play the drinking game last night watching the debate?

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I'd love to hear from you again. Please call if
you watch. I'd love to know what your perceptions of
it were. Five eighteen right now if you If I
have care, see de talk station. Plenty of things to
talk about before we get to Dave at six point
thirty in the next hour. Will be right back fifty
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the Audio Tech Friday with Dave Hatter's right there to
click on crime stopper bag guy that week. We'll catch
one later in the day. Of course, we had Jay
ratlifon yesterday, the our aviation expert Fun times with him.
I hope you saw that empower you summoner last night
on gen Z. Senator Ran Paul joined the program yesterday.
Congressman Warren Davidson, you got it on and on and
on fifty five car sea dot com. Over the Wall

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Street Journal speaking of crime, urban crime spike is real,
So what is your perception? What is the reality. Apparently
national crime is way up and point out President Trump's
crime is ramp at the US city's well. Critics assert
that it's under control and dropping that sounds like a
local issue or statement doesn't And Trump sent the national
Guard to select cities. Of course, a judge just yesterday

(14:15):
blocked Trump's Illinois National Guard deployment. Didn't see that coming
digit anyway. Associated Pressure reports that the president's rhetoric mirrors
that of conservatives going back decades who have denounced cities,
especially those with majority non white populations or led by
progressives as lawless or crime ridden and in need of
outside intervention. Ap having to go with Trump, so question mark,

(14:39):
they ask, have our cities become crime ridden and unpleasant
or are they safe and livable? Then they turned to
the research from the Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime
Victimization Survey, they suggested answers the question. The survey finds
at the rate of violent crime in urban areas increased

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sixty one one percent between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty four. Oh,
that spike only in cities. Turning to suburban and rural areas,
they said increase in violent crime over the same time
period four percent in suburban and two percent increase in
rural areas, which they say isn't statistically significant. There's your difference.

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Live in a city, be faced with a massive increase
in crime, live out in the burbs, and you're gonna
be okay, they say. In twenty nineteen, before George Floyd,
pandemic closures and the defund police movement, the rate of
violent crime in urban areas was roughly identical to the
rate nationwide. In twenty twenty four, the rate of violent
crime in urban areas forty six percent higher than the

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nationwide rate, more than double one hundred and four percent
higher the rural rate. Pivoting over to property crime, they
say it's always been more prevalent in cities than elsewhere,
but the gap has widened. Nineteen property crime fifty one
percent higher in urban areas than nationwide twenty twenty four.

(16:07):
Are you ready eighty six percent higher number of property
crime victimizations in twenty twenty four per thousand households one
hundred and eighty one point six in urban areas, ninety
one point six in suburban and only forty eight point
three in rural areas. Those rural and suburban areas looking
mighty appealing, aren't they? Rather than relying on police reports,

(16:30):
National Crime Victimization Survey asked US residents whether they were
a crime victim recently. If so, says the nature asks
the nature of the crime, demographics of those involved, and
whether crime was reported to police. Nation's largest crime survey
has been conducted since the Nixon administration, so it goes
back quite a bit. One thing the survey cannot measure,
the Journal points out, is homicide race, as it's a

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survey of victims this survey conducted murders, they say are
the easiest crime to count, so police statistics in this
room should be quite reliable. Homicide count in two cities
that Trump sent guards to District of Columbia. Look there,
number homicides rose thirteen percent that time period twenty nineteen
to twenty twenty four, and sixty one percent up if

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you put it back to twenty seventeen and compare it
to twenty twenty four. Homicides about doubled between twenty nineteen
and twenty four, and they say it's true. Both cities
had even more murders than twenty one and twenty twenty
two than twenty twenty four. That shows how high their
murder rates were before falling back. That's that COVID era

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murder rate. As to the demographics of the crime, survey
finds a likelihood that whites, blacks, and Hispanics will be
victims matches the percent of the population. Fifty two percent
of incidents involving black victims also featured black offenders. The
result not true for any other racier group. They say,

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including up the survey results, the primary reason black residents
were disproportionately likely to be victims of crime despite the
high rate of interracial crime, is that there are comparatively
few crimes committed against black victims by white offenders. Survey
shows white residents made up sixty percent of the population,

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yet were offenders in only seven percent of incidents involving
black victims. That's the connection between crime and crime is
Black on black crime is statistically much more significant than
white on black crime, they say, and conclude most overlook
US crime story in recent years has been the huge
crime spike in our cities. Violent crime doesn't rise in

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suburban or rural areas, but rises sixty one percent in
urban areas. That should be big news. They conclude. Trump
is right that American cities aren't nearly as safe as
they were before. Systemic racism became a familiar accusation and
defund the police became a rallying crime stir that pot
of division, defund the police, low and behold, crime goes

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through the roof five point twenty seven Right now if
you five cares to the talk station, local stories or
phone calls. Either way, if you're right.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Back, fifty five KRC fall is sports.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Season five point thirty one on a Friday, one hour
for Now Tech Frida with Dave hat Or. Next, Steve
Gooden returned to the program talk about the campaign got treasure,
Robert Sprague running for Secretary of State coming up, Jack
wins Or, editor in chief the High Press Network, coming up,
Dwin's war on him, plus sites property tax bill. Can't
wait to have Jack on the program to explain that
property tax plan. Plus jd Vance's half there. Corey Bowman

(19:33):
at eight thirty to talk about the debate. Over to
the phones. Let's see what Tom's got this morning, Tom,
thanks for calling. Happy Friday brother.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Good morning, And today is the day I broke out
the hoodie for the first time this season. So I
figure forty two degrees warrants, that's what hooded sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, I thought about that when I got out of
my car. You know, my world reality is I am
in my garage walking to my car, which takes about
five seconds to get in my car. My garage obviously
a lot, you know, more comfortable than outside. Then I
get out of my car and I park in the
parking garage here and I'm only outdoors for another ten
seconds as I walk into the elevator area. So I

(20:13):
felt the cold, and I thought, yeah, maybe I should
say something about putting a jacket on this morning, but
I'm not exposed to the temperatures enough to feel like
I really need one.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
You have a rough life, Brian.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I know I did.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
It must be tough being you.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Now. The only difficult thing about being me is getting
up at two thirty in the morning and having to
miss things like the debate. Yeah, that's that's it. Was
it crime?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Some of us get up, some of us get up
at two thirty in the morning, but not to go
to work, if you.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yes, anyway, I'm sixty.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, you're sixty. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
There's a lot of guys laughing right now.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're talking about crime this morning, and
you're talking about what causes crime. And I mean, it's
a it's a no brain there where we're gonna we're
gonna beat this drum, beat the dead horse, whatever you
want to call it. It's uh. Yeah. When you take
away something that stops people from misbehaving, oh they're gonna misbehave.

(21:12):
It's just it's common sense. It's human nature. I don't understand.
I don't understand what the discussion is about, what what why?
Some people just don't get it. You have to have uh, well,
what do you call it? Guardrails, roadblox. You gotta have
you know, the bouts are standing at the door. You
have to have a presence of something that people say, Hey,

(21:35):
you know what, I'm probably gonna I'm probably gonna behave
myself because I don't want to deal with that.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, let me that that that you have. You have
trouble in form a couple of forms. And I'm wondering
whether you suspect that the the erosion of people's faith
and higher power has anything to do with the increase
in crime, because when you know, growing up, I always
like sort of felt the wrath of God might come
down to harm me. You know, if you're planning on
doing something wrong, You've got your parents to worry about,

(22:01):
you have society, your peers to worry about and how
they look at you. You have the criminal justice system
and whether or not your activity or your anticipated behavior
might land you in the hands of the police officers.
But then there was always that threat, in that fear
that there might be some sort of divine retribution in
the afterlife. If you committed it. God views what I'm
planning on doing as a sin, so maybe I might

(22:21):
want to not do that. Yeah, you think there's any
connection with that.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Absolutely, fear of consequences. I mean, look at the left
is look what the left has tried to remove from
society and been fairly successful at it. I mean, you
go all the way to the top, the most important
thing about God, removing God from everything they can possibly
removing from, treating people who believe in God and who

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fear God or whatever, treating us like we're terrible people
and we're trying to browbeat other people. Know, We're just
trying to tell you we believe in God and we
don't want to upset him. We want to make him
happy with us. Yeah, some of it is because we
don't want his punishment. And then you go all the
way down to your parents, and then you talk about teachers.

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In school, there was always somebody around who would say
something and be able to do something about your behavior,
and kids knew this. They don't know this anymore because
the people who have the who have the ability to
do something about it have been scared into not doing
anything about it. Don't I'm not gonna say nothing to
these kids because I don't want my carkeet or whatever.

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It's become acceptable to lash out of the people who
are in place to keep our society going on the
straight and narrow and real quick to get something. Do
you think hamas accepting the Trump's piece deal. Do you
think that him blowing up those boats in the Caribbean

(23:50):
had any effect whatsoever on their decision to go, you
know what, we might want to go along with this.
This dude, this dude looks like he's gonna he's willing
to do something. You know. I don't know if if
he had that in mind. I don't necessarily agree with
doing that, but you know, when you do stuff like that,
it lets people know, you know what, I might not

(24:12):
want to mess with this guy. And sometimes mom and
dad have to do stuff like that, you know, not
cross the line or do something illegal, just show hey,
I'm willing to step in front of you and stop
you from doing whatever it is you're going to do.
You have to let people know that, because if you don't,
all bets are off and it's mass chaos. And that's

(24:32):
exactly what the left is about. Let's let everybody do
whatever they feel like doing, and and it's reaping the
benefits of exactly what they're out to get. So don't
vote Rhino and don't vote Democrats.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Have a great weekend, Brian, Yeah, you have a great
weekend too. Yeah. Donald Trump did issue a profound threat saying, listen,
you don't get it to settle the agreement, don't you
don't you don't end this war, you don't release the hostages,
It's gonna be a world of wrath of God type
fury is going to be meted down upon you. Hey,
and maybe they did put the two together. Trump's willing
to violate the Constitution in the United States of America,
and will he nearly go around bombing boats that he

(25:07):
doesn't even know if they're coming to the United States
of America anymore? Jesus guy's maybe unhinged. Let's perhaps capitulate,
just boiling it down from a different point of view.
There five point thirty seven fifty five krsite de Talk
station this Saturday and Deep Talk station.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Can you play John the picture?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
It is five forty one, it is Friday. The answer
to that question is always yes. As long as Joe
Strukers as a dude show the fifty five Carsite Morning
show and always putting a smile on the face of
my friend Jeff, who anxiously awaits the moment, but you
can hear less hit the base round, good morning, Jeff.

(25:49):
Stack is stupid.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
If you had to boil it on the stack of
stupid two three critical elements, they would include a naked
person that's not a Friday anyway. A naked person in
Florida in a Walmart. We have a trifacto fund amen
Brother nine one one call about a naked guy chasing
Walmart employees around a parking lot in North Florida. Man

(26:14):
was still naked when police showed up. It was a
quarter to three in the morning on a Wednesday, October eighth.
Lake City Police Department responded to the responded it happened
to Walmart West US Highway ninety, Lake City, Florida. The
store was closed at the time. A court to the
police found arrival. Officers advised that an unknown male completely nude,
was chasing employees in the parking lot and had fled

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toward a wooded area north of the store. Officers canvassy
area located to the guy in his hands and knees
in a wooded area. The subject appeared to be agitated
and paranoid. Taken to the hospital of the staff medically
cleared him to be arrested and taken a jail. Identified
at the jail via fingerprints, charged with indecent exposure and

(26:56):
resisting an officer without violence. Drugs are I'm going that
direction to Joe paranoia entergy equation, and I'm going to
flag it as a drug issue. Oh, we got a
local one here. It involves public nudity. It does not
involve the Walmart, though it involves a TJ Max. Thirty

(27:16):
year old man arrested Thursday, September twenty fifth, just reported
last week facing multiple charges, including theft and public nudity
at the TJ Max on Ohio Pike or just off
Ohio Pike. Union Township Police Department insert report said Cody
Partridge now facing charges of disorderly conduct, resistant arrests, substructing
official business, and of course, public indecency. Eleven thirty six

(27:38):
am Tuesday, September twenty third, officers called a responder to
a disturbance. Employee told police the Partridge inside the store
yelling and screaming. Partridge apparently removed several backpacks from the shelf,
put them inside his own bag, also took down a
shelf items ended up on the ground. After that, he
then exited the store with the stolen stuff, returned later

(27:59):
at that point completely naked, and yelled at staff and customers.
They say the incident escalated when he picked up a
pair of sweatpants, began arguing with a customer before leaving
the store, and during the altercation I love this when
my concealed carry friends out there, he threatened the customer
with a pair of scissors. The customer, in response, pulled

(28:21):
out a firearm.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Idiots doing idiot things because their idiot.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Told Partridge to drop the scissors, that says the customer
then secured his firearm and exited the store to distance
himself from Partridge, the appropriate way of handling the situation.
Police got there by Stead had poured out Partridge, who
was then shirtless and wearing gray pants, continuing to yell profanities.
Officers instructed him to stop. He ignored them, after warning

(28:50):
him he would be taste. He still attempted to walk
away from the officers, and they said eventually one of
them in fact used the taser, which in opacitated mister Partridge.
He continued resisting while on the on the ground. Officers
ultimately were able to apprehend him. A quarter of the report.
There were no indication that he was under the influence

(29:12):
of drugs or alcohol at the time of the incident.
Just plain old batcrap insane five point forty five right
now fifty five krs the talk station more stupid or
phone calls either way? We goes aokay with naked guy
happened last week. He said he was being bitten by
snakes phrasing. Troy Edward Adkins, fifty nine of Let's See

(29:34):
Whiteville charged with a misdemeanor indecent exposure and intoxicated and disruptive.
Also charged with an unrelated speeding ticket from Chadbourne Police.
Bond set at five hundred dollars. SHARFF Support said deputies
were called to the Seven Creeks Highway about five am
after reports of this naked guy our behaving erratically. They

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found him in a ditch and, according to the Urest report,
exhibiting signs of extreme and time oxication and disorientation and
pulling at his genital area. Phrasing in a related point
apparently He told deputies that snakes were biting him phrasing,

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and asked them to quote cut the head off close
quote phrasing. No, you think he's a hockey player, Joe
at getting deliberate penalties, singing in the penalty box. Oh,
a snapshot. I don't know considering what he was engaged
in by way of behavior at the time he said

(30:38):
cut the head off, he was he referring to phrasing.
We're left to draw our own conclusions at taking the
Columbus Regional for evaluation and arrested after release. Oh look,
naked guy. Good. We're in New Jersey for this one.

(30:58):
We're Avila man Accusa committe multiple lewed acts on Highbee
Beach during the month of August, corn to Lower Township Police.
In the first incident, a woman told police that she
had an interaction with the guy, later identified as forty
four year old Leonardo L. Madero. She said it made
her uncomfortable. Madera briefly left the area, reappeared naked and

(31:20):
committing a lewd act phrasing. A few days later, two
people report a similar incident with a man committing a
lewd act where they were in a high by beach.
Description given was similar to the prior act that was
I just mentioned, with acts seemingly being committed by the
same person. Madero identified as a suspect charged with multiple
counts of ludiness, currently residing in the Cape May County

(31:45):
Correctional Facility. A woman who had worked as a substitute
teachers now been charged with allegedly arranging to meet a
minor for the purposes of engaging in sexual activity. Thirty
year old how are you doing? We have no idea

(32:08):
because you're an idiot. Thirty year old Crystal Sims, Cave City,
charged with unlawfully using electronic communication to solicit, procure, or
promote a child for sexual activity. Arrested October second after
an interview with the Baron County Sheriff's deputy. Released from
that detention center on a twenty five thousand dollars cash bond.
Deputy Adam Bow said he received information that Sims had

(32:30):
been communicating with a male juvenile for the purpose of
meeting and for sex. Student told the deputy that she
he had met Simms when she was the substitute teacher
in his class. Who's watching your children? Student added, Simms
later accept that her friend request he's center on Snapchat.
Student told deputies out on August twenty second that he
and Sims began talking about meeting in Cave City to

(32:52):
have sex and recorded call man of the same day.
A female can be heard asking the juvenile if he
is coming to meet her. This student edited that the
call later transitioned to a video call in which she
exposed breasts on the call while she was in a shower.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
While being recorded, so she had to record herself naked
in the shower. Brilliant. She was told deputies October second
that while substitute teachers, several boys in the class attempted
to add her on social media, but she didn't accept
any of those requests. She admitted to being the female
in the recorded call. I guess because it's her and
her boobs in the call, but said that she had

(33:36):
agreed to meet the student so that he could apologize
for the way he acted in class. Claims she didn't
meet the jumils student and nothing physical happened between them.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
Yeah, so conceivable.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
You really, I see. Okay, so you're on the call
to arranged for an apology meeting. Why were you in
the shower naked recording yourself having that conversation? Yeah, I know.
Five fifty five fifty five kr ce D talk station,
Stick around Tech Friday, come up with six thirt I'd
love to hear from you. Did you watch the debate
between Bowman and Purval. I'm dying to hear from you.

(34:15):
If you did, please please call me. I'll be right back.
Today's top stories at the top on fire no everything.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
You never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Fifty five k the talk station six six fifty five
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morning and that your day even improves beyond the greatness
you're experiencing right now. I've come up out of the
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and forth with Iris Rawley, the defund the police activist

(34:47):
currently on the City Cincinnati payroll. I h have a
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current race, will get the latest on his campaign, Lord
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Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network on Dwine's war

(35:07):
on him and Bill Sitz property tax plan, along with
Corey Bowman, who's going to join the program at eight
three to talk about the debate last night. Someone who's
on the phone right now, former Vice mayor of the
City of Cincinnati, mister smith Van himself running for Cincinnati Council.
Christopher Smithman. Welcome back, my friend. You're always welcome on
the morning. Should you get a chance to tune into
the debate last night.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
I did Brian and a couple of observations, and I'll
have more on Monday during the Smither event. But one
of the things, you know the politician and power is
hidden in the wrong direction or is worry is when
he spends part of his debate blaming the previous administration. Yeah,

(35:50):
so we spent time acting as if Mayor John Cranley
or our city manager Paula Boggs new Thing are responsible
for his current and condition. This guy has been the
mayor for years, four years. You've got to own it.
And so when you I just I'm signaling to the

(36:11):
citizens of Cincinnati as they vote today in Norwood. Here's
a guy that wouldn't own anything. That's observation Observation one.
Observation two for me was he acted as if he
supported the police the entire debate. Look, the Cincinnati Police

(36:32):
Department took a no confidence vote in this mayor. I
have never seen it before. So you have the police
department saying, look, I don't have any confidence in this
man's leadership or his administration. But if you heard him
talking yesterday, you would think that he was the greatest
supporter of the police department, when it is absolutely the opposite.

(36:56):
I can't wait to hear at some point from pres
than in cob because there are two stories here in
the story that I believe Brian Thomas is the story
coming out of the FOP saying we have nine hundred
and thirty or so officers, two hundred of them are
in drop. We've had a administration that has been not

(37:21):
supporting us. It's made it more difficult for us to recruit.
That this is an administration that absolutely is a defund
the police are reimagine the police. They're even hiring a
central consultant who absolutely doesn't support the police. Department paying
them almost six hundred thousand dollars, and he stands before

(37:44):
the City of Cincinnati when crime is out of control,
saying that is John Cranley's fault. The previous administration in
some way is responsible for his failures.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, that's what I read, and I get you all day.
He has been there quite some time, and his his
his points on his reaction to the crime. You know,
he says, well that the stats are down, but I
understand people's perceptions. The crime is bad and we have
you know, reacted to that. Well, he only did it
after Holly got punched in the face and we had
that brutal brawl. That was just at the end of

(38:18):
July in the fourth year of his term as the
mayor of the City of Cincinnati. It was at that
point that he decided to sort of rethink the way
Patris police patrols are going to be and to start
enforcing the curfew, at least in certain neighborhoods in the city.
I mean, that was in response. That was Corey's point,
wasn't it that you're reactive? You should be proactive.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
Exactly, And also the observation that we just had an
active shooting on Fountain Square this week, not two months ago,
literally this week, and so they presented this question to
both candidates that crime was down. This is coming from
the moderator. This is coming from the inquirer. Crime is down.

(39:03):
It's your perception. He's saying that, and those questions are
being asked. Think about this with Ronda Win, whose daughter
Cassandra Win was shot in the back in OTR, killed
this year, just months ago, and with Holly sitting right
in front of them, like in the front row. So

(39:24):
you have these two of it. The only person who
wasn't there with Sarah Hearing Hearringer, who's whose husband Patrick
was killed in OTR this year in his own home.
I'm saying, you have the Inquirer, the moderator, whoever this was,
is Xavier even presenting the question that crime is down
and it's your perception and my perception not reality, right,

(39:48):
and the mayor doubling down on that while these victims
are right in front of him. He could have easily said,
right then, Holly, I am so sorry for what happened
to you. Ronda. I am so sorry Rona Win, what
happened to your daughter on my watch? She was shot
in her back thirty shots fire. She was an innocent victim,

(40:09):
a mother of five. He has no connection with the
reality of what you and I and citizens are experiencing.
That's the problem. This guy is disconnected from reality. And
so the question with leading. I thought Corey did a
good job answering it. But there has to be a

(40:30):
tremendous pushback at the ballot box when people are voting,
whether you're a Democrat, Independent, or Republican, there has to
be an action, Brian Thomas. People can't just sit around
and listen to this mayor give them four more years
we're in an election and then go in and cast
a vote for here?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Would you since you live in the city of Cincinnati
and you're always out canvassing and connection with your effort
to become since a councilman again, you obviously have great
connections with a lot of neighbors in the community, and
you will. I mean, you're just you're informed. Do you
get the perception that the residents of the city of
Cincinnati are enthused about voting for a FTA pervo means

(41:09):
a blue city. Corey Bowman's got this massive uphill challenge.
He's got to win over the hearts and minds of
people who usually don't even vote. And that's the point
of my question. People will go out and vote when
they're enthused about a candidate, and if we're typically have
a ten percent fifteen percent turnout. I mean, that's maybe
Corey Bowman's salvation because I know people who know Corey
Bowman and want to see a different direction of the city.

(41:31):
They seem to be very motivated. The only problem is
most of the people that are truly motivated for Corey
Bowman don't even live in the city of Cincinnati. So
what's your perception of the lay of the landscape among
the residents.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Well, Democrats in the city that I'm speaking to. We
were lid dropping in Mount Adams yesterday and there were
Democrats that we spoke to who are not supporting him
because they're very concerned about crime. So that was the feedback.
There were others that were saying, I'm going to hold
my nose or not show up at all and vote

(42:06):
for him because I am concerned about Donald Trump. And
we were trying to explain to those citizens that this
local election has nothing to do with Donald Trump. But
that's why you saw the mayor during the debate start
talking about Maga. Maga, he Keith, He's Keith. He's worried

(42:26):
about the re election. So what he's trying to do
is deflect and make this election about Donald Trump and
not about his terrible policies and the direction and his
inability to keep our fifty two neighborhoods and its residents' faith.
That is his number one responsibility and he has failed

(42:50):
and the members of council have failed to do that.
That is why the police Department took a no confidence
vote in his leadership. But if you heard him, he
was spending more time talking about Maga and Trump and
the moderators refeeding him red meat, allowing him to walk
down that road with Corey Bowman standing next to him.

(43:13):
This election has nothing to do with that. Politics are local.
If you want your popholes fixed, if you want your
your if you want your snow removed, if you want
your trash removed, if you want to be safe with
police in fire, you've got to vote for Corey Bowman.
And so the other step that he took was he
said anybody and everybody supporting Corey Bowman is a MAGA person.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Right.

Speaker 8 (43:37):
This is a MAGA ticket again. This is this cultural
signaling that he's trying to get his base and he's
trying to feed them in this most extreme way. Not
talking about the gunshots, the murders. I live in North Avondale.
There was a twenty five year old killed right in
Evingston in the last two weeks. I was lit dropping

(43:59):
in rolls line last weekend at twelve thirty in the
afternoon there was a young man murdered in an apartment.
His body was still inside. I want you to hear that,
Brian Thomas. His body was still inside. As I just
happened to be lid dropping in Roseline. I'm saying, this

(44:21):
is the level of violence that's happening around us, whether
it's downtown, whether the woman who put up on a
Facebook page in Hyde Park that she's sitting at a
light and a group of young men get out of
their car broad daylight with guns and try to hijack
her car, try to take her out of her carjacker.

(44:44):
This is the craziness that's going on around us. And
the mayor just stood there yesterday saying it's your perception public,
it's the previous administration. This is John Cranley, this is
the previous city manager, Paula Balg's new things fault, It's
not me and did own anything. I thought Corey did
a good job. I think the mayor was trying to

(45:05):
be a bully. And the last point I want to make,
the outbursts that were happening in the audience were an embarrassment. Look,
if you're going to hold a debate and be a
moderator and you start the debate off and you say
I only want applause at the beginning and applause at
the end, there's point of that because you don't want
to lead something. What's happening in that audience yesterday that

(45:29):
was absolutely inappropriate, and the moderator didn't shut it down.
You're you're clapping and yelling and shouting while the city manor,
while the mayor is talking about the collaborative agreement. I
don't know who those people were, but I tell you
that was a poor showing for the moderator to not
shut that down.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Christopher Smithman will hear you on Monday at seven twenty
every Monday here in the fifty five KRCY Morning Show,
The Smithville Keep up the great work. My friend and
good looking. The campaign trail looks like west Side. Jim
Cleveland on the line. We'll get those calls immediately. Have
talk station six one fifty five Kerr see the talk
station Happy Friday, Bottom of the Art, of course, Tech

(46:12):
Friday with Dave Hatter always something I look forward to
and David, you two and it's always good to hear
from west Side. Jim next in line on the phones.
What's saied, Welcome to the program, my friend. Good to
hear from you this morning.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Morning, Brian, Yes, I watched every minute of it last night,
and first off, I like to comment on Corey.

Speaker 8 (46:33):
He did a great job of sidetracking duck.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Boy what he called him, mister Bowman Corey and Corey Bowman.
So that's the old political strategy of trying to kick
off your opponent by mentioning their names like that and
seeing how they would react. And Corey was very professional
in each one of those circumstances, and he didn't bite

(47:00):
on what he did. Now, I will give Purval one credit.
He was well prepared through his bobos on mentioning the
things that he was trying to convince the public that
Corey was not qualified and Basically he kind of softballed
that several times about the fact of, oh, if you

(47:22):
want to run the city or you want to be
mayor and those kind of you know, objectives.

Speaker 8 (47:27):
To Corey, and Corey handled it very very well.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Now, I don't the one softball that was thrown Corey's way,
and I hope he brings it up in the next
debate is when Holly got decked, and you know, it
was mentioned last night and it was kind of dropped
pretty quick. I hope he brings it up about the
fact that he was out of town Purple and didn't respond,

(47:56):
and I don't think he's ever did respond to Holly,
And I'm not sure about that, but about the fact
that he didn't call her, didn't participate. I don't think
he had any of his city manager or anybody else
call her and see what her situation was.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Why I asked her that last week of listener lunch
and as of last Wednesday, anyone that he had not
reached out to it at all.

Speaker 8 (48:19):
Yeah, And I don't think he will. No, I really don't.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
It's Kevin Aldridge, is what Christopher was talking about. That
was the moderator. He's a bleeding liberal works for the Enquirer.
If he doesn't work for the enquire he's one of
their outlying people. But I think it was a good debate.
I think the next one will tell more because it's

(48:43):
going to be on live TV, so people will listen
and watch.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
It was very easy to find last night.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
It took me probably a minute, so I'm hoping a
lot of people watched it. As far as the audience
speaking out and clapping, I did hear a lot of
stuff for for Corey, unless I'm mistaken, when he was
bringing up points about the crime and things like that,
and granted, Christopher's right, you shouldn't you shouldn't do that,

(49:13):
But I did notice that Corey did get a lot
of response on some of his answers, so I'm.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
Happy it went that way again.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
He handled himself very professionally, and the question of he
can handle this city part of all. Walked into the
clerk's office. The clerk's office, for god's sakes, that's about
as non political as far as a reputation and qualification
as you can get. It's a job, and yes, it
is a Democrat job right now. And when he walked in,

(49:45):
it was a Democrat job, but that doesn't qualify him
to be mayored. So why not give Corey a chance?
I mean, this guy has failed miserably, so there's no
reason not to give you know, a city a new chance.
And again, I'm not going to keep beating a dead horse.
But Corey did a great job on coming back on

(50:08):
everything that that pur Ball came outing with.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Glad to hear it. Well, appreciate your analysis and look
forward to the next debate and we'll see how things
go and encourage people to tune in to watch it.
West Side, Jim, I hope you have a fantastic weekend,
my friend. Appreciate you all lot. I really do. Sorry
couldn't get the other callers because well we're out of
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Welcome back. To the morning show. I always love having
you on my program.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
Always my pleasure to be here, Brian.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And a new word. This one's new on me. Every
time you show up, you typically have a new word.
I've learned a lot from you over the years. Today,
Sharon ting, what the.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
Hell was that? Well, the concept is not new, but
the word is relatively new. Until I stumbled into this article,
I had not heard this term myself. Good And it's
the idea of parents sharing things online. For a long time,
experts have warned that parents share too much information about

(51:20):
their kids, and I think over the years you and
I have talked about the fact that kids are often
targeted for identity theft, because if you can steal the
identity of a small child, it might be many years,
if not maybe a decade or more before they realize
that their identity has been stolen, you know, when they
go to get a loan, maybe apply for college, sure,
go to apply for a job or something like that.

(51:40):
So it's been well known in the industry that kids
are targets of identity theft. And this is it, in
my mind, a really interesting term that can hopefully put
a finer point on this for parents. That if you're
going online and sharing lots of information about your kids, photos,
information about what they do, information about their pets, and

(52:01):
so forth, it may eventually come back to bite them.
And I think it also is trying to drive home
the point that people typically don't really understand the idea
of privacy on the internet. Just because you're on TikTok
and you set something to private when you post it,
does not mean that whoever can see it won't take
a screenshot of it or something like that and share.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
It with you.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
Does it mean that the company that has that data
might not sell it or it might get breached. So
it's really a warning to parents that the less you
share about your kids, the better. And again, the idea
of this has been out there for a long time,
but I think this is sort of a catchy way
to hopefully drive this point home from parents and get
them to put less information online about their kids.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's interesting because my wife is probably listening right now.
She traditionally listens to my program in the morning when
she's getting ready for work, and she's probably nodding and
smiling and basically saying, yeah, I told you so. Because
I rarely over the life of my children. I have
posted a picture of them. It's not because I don't
love them or I'm not proud of them. It's because

(53:04):
my wife and I have a rule. We don't put
pictures of the kids up on social media period. End
of story. My wife doesn't use even social media. But
I remember one time I put a picture of my
I don't know my daughter or son up there, and
maybe both of them. Man, I got an earful when
I got home, I mean an earful.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
So well, that's the right approach. I agree where I understand,
and you know, I can't say I've never been guilty
of this, especially when my oldest kids were younger, you know,
I think, especially when social media was new and people
didn't really understand these risks. And I get as a parent,
you know, you're proud of your kids. You love your kids, right,
you want to you want to brag on them because

(53:40):
you're proud of them and you want to make them
feel good and that sort of thing. But here's what
I think people often lose sight up, especially now in
the age of AI, where it's not just the identity
theft angle, it's bullying, it's things like sextortation, which we've
talked about before, and as a reminder, many kids have
killed themselves because they have been extorted by folks. And

(54:01):
while you know, some of these kids have made a
mistake and send a nude photo or something. I know
you and I have talked about the stories where use
an AI you can take someone's photo and basically make
them appear to be nude. You know, if you're a
fourteen year old kid and suddenly a fake nude picture
of you is sent to you and someone says, send
me money, are you going to be able to have

(54:21):
the ability to say, well, that's just a deep fake
and I don't care.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
You know.

Speaker 7 (54:26):
So there's a lot of different angles to this, but
you know, the identity theft one is where this mostly goes,
and it's it's the whole idea of you know, if
you put a picture of your kid on there with
their pet Fluffy, or a picture of them at their
first day at school X think about this. How many
times have you had to reset a password? And when
you set up your account, there these security questions what

(54:48):
was your first school, what was your first pet? Well,
the bad guys potentially have access to that information. Through
information you're sharing about your kids, so when they do
their interfaiious and you also have to understand, folks, so
many of the people who are behind the kind of
crimes I'm talking about here are essentially professional con artists.

(55:09):
They're just not out on the street trying to run
a scam on you like in the movie to Sting.
They're now using these online tools to collect information, to
impersonate you, to impersonate someone else, to steal your information.
So again, you've got the sextortation risk, you've got the
bullying risk, you've got the identity theft risk. And for
all of those reasons, as much as you may love

(55:30):
your kids and you really just want to be out
there promoting them and you know, proud of them, you
really are better off if you share as little as possible,
or frankly nothing online. And that's just where we're at.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
That's where we're at. I appreciate my wife give me
an earful at one time, and I don't think I've
done it very many times since I saw he ever
appreciate it. And she is listening. She just texted me
and said, yes, I'm listening. So there you have it,
Dave had We're going to continue another knit talk Station
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over kids do stupid things. I tourched trying to remember back, Dave,
if I was ever stupid enough to do something like this,
another TikTok trend. Let's have it.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
Well, Brian, you know, I know you and I have
said this many times over the years we've been doing
this show. Thank God, none of this stuff existed when
we were teenagers. I was a total idiot when I
was a teenager, and I cannot tell you how happy
I am, but none of this stuff existed.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Amen.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
Now, I don't know, I don't know that I would
have done something like this, because it's actually kind of
mind numbing to me that someone would even think of
this and would them think, hey, this would be a
funny prank. But the basic gist is, and apparently this
has shown up a couple of times and the Brown
County Sheriff has learned about this, which is how I
first found out about it. In some other reporting that

(57:05):
kids are basically using generative AI tools, you know, think chat,
GPT or something like that, Sora vo three from Google
that you know, a lot of these things CROC have
the capability not only to generate text, but generate audio
and or video and photos. And they're going in and

(57:26):
they're creating very realistic looking and I'm going to use
this term, I just call it an image rather than
a photo because it's not a photo, and it's they're
just creating an image that looks like someone breaking into
a house. And then they call their parents and send
this photo on the phone, right and say someone's breaking in. Well,
of course, you know they think this is a funny prank. Now,

(57:48):
if you're a parent, what are you going to do
when your kids sends you a photo that appears to
be someone breaking into your house?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Right?

Speaker 7 (57:56):
Of course you're going to panic, you know, are you
going to really scrutinize the photo?

Speaker 9 (58:00):
Go?

Speaker 7 (58:00):
Well, I don't know, maybe that looks like it could
have been generated by AI. I mean, first off, what
parent would even think of that? Because it would not
even occur to me that my kid had done something
like that. And then secondarily, again, you know, while I'm
always trying to encourage people, don't trust anything you see
at this point, you know, look for any sort of
tell that it might be AI. One of the things

(58:20):
you'll often see, Brian, when someone generates a video or
an image using AI is things will be a little off,
especially like if there's a logo on their shirt. If
you look at it real carefully, it will often just
be some nonsensical mumbo jumbo. Well, again, what parent is
going to scrutinize the photo at that level if they
think their kid is under assault?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I guess so it might depend upon the age of
the kid who sent this. But my immediate reaction, at
least when I heard this was someone's actively breaking in
the home, you took a picture of them, and you
didn't call the police. First, I would go home and
if this actually happen, then after I dealt with the situation,
made sure everybody's okay, metaphorically slap them across the face

(59:06):
for being an idiot in contacting me before they got
in touch with the authorities.

Speaker 7 (59:10):
Yeah, I mean, you would hope that you would have
drilled into your kids all along. Yeah, don't forget your address, Johnny.
And you know, Susie, if you're home and there's an emergency,
don't call me first, dial nine one one. You know,
you'd hope those are the kind of conversations you'd be
having with their kids, your kids. But again, think of
the panic that's going to sweep over you if you

(59:31):
get something like that. Plus, how would you know that
they didn't call nine one one already? So of course
the parents call nine one one, you know, the police
show up, you've wasted their resource. And I would argue
this is almost a form of swatting self swatting, Right
swatting is this idea that someone that doesn't like you

(59:51):
for whatever reason, often for political reasons, calls the police
and claims there's a shooting going on at your address,
or domestic violence or whatever. You know, the police obviously
are obligated to respond to kicking the door. People have
been killed in these swanning incidents. You know, this is
almost like a form of self swanting. When your mom
calls nine to one one, So it's you know, I

(01:00:12):
think kids don't realize a the risk they're putting themselves
in by doing this, be the risk they're putting society
in and the waste of resources, and see the potential
long term consequences to their reputation, you know, And I'm
not an attorney. It's probably going to depend on the jurisdiction.
But this is potentially a crime. So again, it's hard

(01:00:34):
for me to imagine how any kid would think that
this would be a funny prank. But apparently some have
done this now, and you know, so the warning is
going out, warn your kids that, hey, even though you
can and to me, Brian, this even goes beyond just
this incident. Yes, you can get on these tools now
and generate all kinds of things, things that could potentially

(01:00:54):
backfire horrifically on you and cause problems for you well
into your future. So I think the broader topic in
my mind is really have a talk with your kids
about these tools, how they should and should not use them,
and certainly not to use them in any way that
would potentially cause law enforcement related and legal consequences for

(01:01:15):
them and your family potentially again many years into the future.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Well or emotional harm. You mentioned just photoshopping a naked
body onto it. One of your classmate's heads. That could
be really really dangerous. I mean, someone could commit suicide
as a consequence of an image like that. So you
really need to have a heart to heart with them.
Maybe get some illustrations like Dave brought up this morning,
and walk through how something innocent could turn really really bad. So, yeah,

(01:01:42):
that's a very helpful exercise for people to have with
their I guess younger people at home, Dave had or
we're gonna.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
I guess run real quick ups to this. Brian is.
In addition to us talking about it, you know, parents
could go out there now and find examples of this
stuff in the press and go say, okay, Johnny, here's
an exactample where some kid did this. Here's how it
went wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah, don't do this exactly. Very very valuable communication, all right,
coming up? Oh goodie, TransUnion data breach. We got that
to talk about with Dave had to what that might
mean for see the talk station six fifty fifty five
ker Ceed Talk Dation. It's Friday. We're doing tech Frida
with Dave Hatter, Steve Gooden for Cincinni City Council. After
the top of the hour, News and Robert Sprague. I'll

(01:02:24):
have a treasure running for Secretary of State. He'll be
on at seven thirty the mean time. Back to Dave Hatter, Dave,
let me ask you initial question before we dive on
into Transunion's breach the credit companies. I have had my
credit frozen, at least I think now for years and
years because of stuff like this, these breaches. So my
credit is frozen. Will it stay frozen until I unfreeze it?

(01:02:46):
Or is that something I have to go back and
refreeze from time to time? And I just want to
get that initial question out of the way.

Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
Well, that's the smart play, and that's going to be
one of my pieces of advice byan and everyone should
go freeze their credit. And then when I put the
the shown notes out there from today, I'll add a
link to how the easy way to do that. And
it's not that easy. But as far as I know, Brian,
as far as I know, on all three credit bureaus,
once you freeze it, it will stay frozen until you

(01:03:14):
go in and unfreeze it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
That that's my current understanding. Now keep in mind you
have three different credit bureaus. Each one is a separate business.
You know, each one of them could change how this
works at any given time. But as far as I
know and I have, I have done the same thing
as you. I keep my credit locked until such time
as I would want to apply for a loan or something,
and then go in temporarily unlock it. On most of

(01:03:39):
these things, you can basically say I want to unlock
it for three days or something, and it'll go back again.
Though you have to figure this out for each one
of these things on your own, and it could change
at any time. The last time I did it, I
was able to do that. But the bottom line is
these three companies have an enormous amount of information about

(01:03:59):
you because the nature of what they do right and
you know, if you think about it, your credit score,
especially if you're someone that isn't independently wealthy and doesn't
ever need a loan, is important for you. It's also
sometimes used, you know, as an evaluation of whether you're
going to be a good employer or whatever. So I
would encourage people to go check that occasionally, you know,

(01:04:21):
look at your credit work, get your free credit report
once a year, see what's on it. Challenge those kind
of things. But the real meat of this is really twofold.
So Transnion has reported a breach. Apparently four point four
million customers had information stolen. When you hear the term
breach in this context, basically your information has been stolen.
And I'm going to do a presentation later today I

(01:04:44):
do on cybersecurity. I do a lot of these things,
and I always ask in trying to make the point
everything is digital, everything is online. Why you should care
about this? Who in the crowd has not has not
gotten a letter telling them their their information has been breached?
And I tell you, Brian, it's been years, and it's
sometimes hundreds of people where there hasn't been a single

(01:05:06):
hand go up. Everyone has had their data stolen. Everyone's
gotten this letter, right. So this is an interesting angle though,
because again, if you think about the information that could
be accessed to a credit bureau, it's practically everything about you.
In this particular case, what they're reporting so far is
TransUnion itself was not breached. This was an example of

(01:05:29):
what I would what's what's called in the business third
party risk. They're using a third party system to store
data in this case, apparently Salesforce dot Com, a lot
of people use that. It's a well known CRM, and
apparently other companies had their data recently stolen through Salesforce
as well. Now Salesforce, of course, is saying their platform

(01:05:51):
has not been compromised. This is, you know, probably a
bad password, no MFA kind of situation, kind of like
the Snowflake reach a few years ago, like where at
and T was a company amongst many they had data stolen.
But the bottom line here is TransUnion claims that they
were not breached. They claim that the very sensitive information

(01:06:13):
wasn't stolen, that they were essentially using this as a
customer relationship management tool, so phone numbers, things like that. Right.
Also in the same story, they say several companies have
already been caught in a wave of Salesforce linked attacks,
including Google, Farmers, Insurance, Alliance, Life, Workday, Pandora, Cisco Channel
and others, or Chanel and others. Rather, so, I'm trying

(01:06:36):
to make two points here. When you use third party platforms,
who does it now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:06:40):
More and more companies are using the cloud quote unquote
third party platforms rather than having their own servers and
their own software installed on these things. You have to
make sure you're securing your accounts there so this doesn't happen.
But back to the meat of this story. If you
get a letter from TransUnion telling you your data has
been breached, could be coming any day now, you should

(01:07:01):
take that seriously. And I also want to point out, Brian,
when you see these kind of things, it is super
critical for folks go freeze your credit, keep an eye
on your accounts, be even more skeptical than usual. But
if you get an email or a text or a
phone call reporting to be from TransUnion, how would they
make a phone call to you the bad guys? Well,
now they have all your information. You can get a

(01:07:24):
call and email a text for reporting to be TransUnion
claiming to be reaching out to you about this breach.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Right, Well, I'd be skeptical about that call because TransUnion
has our information for literally hundreds of millions of people, right,
I mean exactly, they're going to call you. They picked
you out of everyone.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
Basically, My point is these are professional con artists. They
have your information. They could reach out to you via email, text,
or phone call claiming to be from TransUnion, having interesting
information that would lead you to believe they are from TransUnion.
Scammers will scam using the breach and telling you because

(01:08:05):
you have been breached, you need to do X, Y
or Z. So my bigger piece of advice other than
to freezer credit and be skeptical, is if TransUnion quote
unquote reaches out to you in any form other than
a written letter, you should be extremely skeptical of that.
Don't click the links, don't talk to the person, don't
call the phone numbers they supply, go to trans Union's

(01:08:28):
Transunion's website, or there's a number here you can check
by calling the TransUnion Fraud Victim Assistance Department at eight
hundred and six' eight oh seven to eight. Nine my point,
is assume anything that you get other than a letter
in the mail is potentially. Fraudulent you go To TransUnion dot,
com you look up a number from their, website you

(01:08:50):
initiate those. Transactions if you have A TransUnion account because
you have locked your credit and frozen your, credit you,
know make sure you have multi factor authentication and turned.
On make sure you have a strong unique password on.
That and you, know sadly there's really. Nothing if you
get the letter and they offer the credit, monitoring turn that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
On, Yeah i'm just going to ask. You it's a
good thing to have the credit. MONITORING i have, LifeLock
i have for, years AND i really don't pay much
attention to. It they do alert you if there's something
like The TransUnion, breach but fortunately for, me there's been
no other.

Speaker 7 (01:09:21):
Breaches so, yeah they alert, you and they have attorneys
and experts that can help you if you're a dint
stolen because a lot of people, say, well what can
what can they do THAT i can't? Do, well they
can monitor at scale which you probably can't even if
you're a, discipline and they have experts that will help
you unwind this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
And afford to pay the legal bills because you do
have a fairly sizable legal coverage protection with something like
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(01:09:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Seven oh six fifty five KRE Cd talk station. Now
very Happy friday to, You Brian. Thomas happy to welcome
on the thirty five Carrac Morning. Show you can find
him online at vote GOODGOD i N Vote gooden dot
com and you should welcome Back Steve. Gooden it's a
pleasure to have you on as. Always, hey good, Morning.
Brian thank you from law firm Reporter. Rides steve always

(01:10:37):
helps us analyze legal cases that affect local communities even.
Nationally it's a brilliant insight he always. Provides he's also
previously on city. Council we have a record we can
attribute To Steve. GOODEN i think he did a fantastic
job and he was there running for council. Again let
us start with the debate last. NIGHT i understand you
at least caught some of the debate Between perval And Corey.
Bowman what's your reaction and what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Think, well it's it's more of the same stuff from the.
Mayor you, know we you know are you? Know i've
been feeling it. TOO i mean they had a meeting
that about two weeks ago between the mayor and the
other council, candidates which leaked immediately where he told them
look you just have to call everyone who is AGAINST

(01:11:19):
Us republican Or, Democrats, maga, maga, maga because apparently they've
done some polling that showed, one you, know that a
lot of the council candidates at least are in trouble are,
incumbents and number two that his numbers apparently aren't so.
Great so rather than deal with his, performance he wants
to make everything about national issues and deflect everything to

(01:11:41):
The trump, administration which is still pretty unpopular within the.
City and you could see that playbook absolutely and pretty
much everything he, said rather than acknowledge at all the
fact that we have a massive spiking crime in our populous,
neighborhoods rather than even discuss the fact that we had

(01:12:04):
a shooting right outside Of Fountain square at five o'clock
on a, weekday the people are getting out of their
getting into their cars to go home from their, offices
where people were just absolutely. Horrified it was right by my,
office by the, way the two idiots getting into an
argument and both pulling guns and shooting each other there
On Vine. Street you, know that's rather than acknowledge any

(01:12:28):
of those, things all he wanted to do was say
talk about the evils Of Donald trump and implying that
people are being kidnapped by ice throughout the city and fear.
Mongering so it was really disgusting AND i, think you,
Know bowman hit back against that the best he. Could
but the plan there was to absolutely gaslight the audience

(01:12:50):
and anyone who's watching this and make them think that
the city's perfectly fine but for the fact that we
have a terrible administration In, washington d. C and that
he's going to stand, Up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I'm fired for.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
You so it was more of the same garbage that
we've been seeing in the last few, weeks but also
a real sign that they feel like that their grip
on City hall is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Slipping, well you see through. IT i, mean the idea
that The trump, administration what they're, doing has an impact
on the city Of. CINCINNATI i suppose to even suggest
that and make that argument is to believe that your
audience is filled with idiots who believe that there is some.
Connection that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Insulting, well it's extraordinarily, insulting and from the people that
we're talking to at in the, community it's not. Working
it's not even, working you, know with a lot of
the really Progressive democrats out in the city that we.
ENCOUNTER i, mean, look the only reason the Word cincinnati
may pass through From slips is because of the fact

(01:13:48):
that the crime here has become so. BAD i, mean
that's the. Issue i'm not one of these people that
thinks The National guards should be deployed over street. CRIME
i think that's an absolute last, resort you, know and
and and that, is you, know there's constitutional issues there as,
well saying that it's from a kind of constitutional conservative.
Standpoint but all that being, SAID i mean the issue

(01:14:11):
is crime. PERIOD i mean public. Safety that's we need
more police. Officers we're two hundred short of a compliment
that was set all the way back in two thousand
and five when we had a very very different. City
we need to we may need up to four hundred
more police officers if we're going to seriously police a
city and actually have beat patrols, again which we know

(01:14:33):
are the best way to combat. Crime, so, uh it's
all just other incomplete. Nonsense it is a complete, deflection
and it's what they've been doing all. SUMMER i, mean,
look it's it's you, know we had a terrible. Summer
the city is more violent than it has been a long.
Time it's a tougher place to, work and it's more,
divided and it's more divided one hundred percent because of

(01:14:54):
the mayor and the people he's got working for. HIM i, mean,
look you know WE i know we were going to
talk About Irish rollie as, well but he has a
police critic on his. STAFF i mean that works some
reports to the city manager into, him who is openly
critical of the. Police because of her, job she's supposed
to be some sort of a. Consultant BUT i mean
this results in a total demoralization of the police force

(01:15:18):
that's already. Understaffed we see the results every. Day this
has nothing to do With Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Trump clearly has nothing to do With Donald. Trump and
he tried to, deflect and we talked about this With
Christopher smithman earlier this. Morning deflect blame basically On John.
Cranley he's been mayor for four years. Now when is
he going to take credit and or take responsibility rather
for the issues that are plaguing in the city Of.
CINCINNATI i, mean that's kind of that retreat was REALLY

(01:15:44):
i think childish or shallow and. Hollow he's got a
lot of time to improve the. SITUATION i, mean how
how many lane miles has aft had provoll improved since
he's been. Mayor we're behind four hundred million dollars in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Infrastructure OH i, go, well you, KNOW i mean if
we even get get into. That but we now know
that they have. Money this came out last week AND
i think The Business courier that they have almost twenty
million dollars that they could have spent on on pothole
repair that they just haven't bothered to get around to.

(01:16:19):
SPENDING i, mean it's it's really just incompetence upon incompetence down.
There and look at. Me you, KNOW i was at
a debate On monday night and out lookout what the council,
group and of course that that's you, know what they've
been instructed to say about. Us they, said we're cleaning
up the mess of the prior, council Of John, cranley
the prior. Council but it's been you, know it's been

(01:16:40):
four years and actually the roads were getting paved four.
YEARS i, mean you, know we did say what you
want About John. Cranley but the, police the police department
was better. Staffed it wasn't fully. Staffed but it was better,
staffed they got, raises morale was. Good THE fop engaged
with and ultimately endorsed the. Mayor right now they give
it no confidence vote TO AFT. Have, yeah but at the,

(01:17:03):
time you, Know cradley worked with them very well and
we had a working majority on council that involved me
And Christopher smitherman And Liz, keating and we all listened
to the police officers' needs and tried to tried to
take care of what the neighborhood, wanted what they, want
what the officers. Need so we did exactly what we

(01:17:24):
were supposed to do at the best we could within
the budget. Constraints, Anyway so it's a totally different scene,
here and it is a absolutely, intentional uh and really
disgusting and divisive. Thing this group is, doing not JUST
aft TO, have but the council candidates to deflect On
trump and on now on to prior council members and.

(01:17:46):
Mayors they've had four years and they have absolutely wrecked the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
City, well a QUESTION i Asked christopher earlier in the,
PROGRAM i wanted to gauge your. Reaction you, know he's
out and about you're going out and about you're doing town,
halls your door knocking, YET i, mean you're familiar with
what's going. On what is the enthusiasm level right? Now
considering the city Of cincinnati is really low on turnout with,
voters what was, it ten? Percent fifteen percent of the
folks showed, up and those are usually going to, be

(01:18:10):
from my, perception filled with a lot of THOSE ngo,
folks those community activists that are getting cash contributions from
from The city Of. Cincinnati they're really good about going
out and helping those elected officials that help. Them in other,
words you, know one hand washes the. Other we know
how politics. Works but so is there enthusiasm among the

(01:18:31):
Regular cincinnati voters FOR aftab parvoll or do you suspect
that we're going to have another low voter turnout considering
the city is pretty much one hundred percent. BLUE i
know it's not but Overwhelmingly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Democrat, well you, know we're almost a week into early,
voting AND i can tell you what the numbers, show
and they actually show both not just an lack of
enthusiasm FOR, aftab but like TIMPATHY i have to. Have
but we also see that it's going to be a
pretty low turnout election unless things change right, away and

(01:19:07):
from the early vote in person and plus the mail
and vote, requests it looks like it's down about thirty
percent Among, democrats it's down a little less among non
affiliated And. Republicans it's only down about two percent Among.
Republicans so what it tells me is there's a lot
of just discussed among The democratic base about what's going on.

(01:19:29):
There they may not be moving to, bowmen but they're
going to vote with their feet and stay, home and
that opens up a lot of opportunity for other, candidates
and it also means that the total number of votes
that you might need to win if you're someone say
like A Charter right or A, republican that vote number
is going to go down because it's the best of
nine and with people staying. Home what we also do

(01:19:53):
know is that a lot of independent voters who still
make up the majority of the, city they tend to Vote,
democratic but there like not really truly affiliated with the
party or activists. There those folks have shown the least
to drop. Off so we know that that that big
mass of independent, voters which can be as much as
forty percent in the city, election but they're still coming,

(01:20:15):
out AND i don't think they're coming out because they're
happy WITH. Aftab and also to your point about the,
ACTIVISTS i think that's the really kind of disgusting thing
that's happened over the last to several decades at City.
HALL i, mean we you, know famously got rid of
patronage when we passed our charter in the nineteen, twenties
but now we have a new patronage where you, know
the mayor and the administration and so forth canned out

(01:20:38):
a lot of dollars in a lot of bogus contracts
to nonprofit agencies and agencies that are just created to you,
know really to suck up the money that we know
were involved in election hearing come elect you, know come
every every two. Years so you, know that's a lot
of the game that The democrats and council have, played
which is using nonprofits who then turn around and help

(01:21:00):
them in the. Election and it's really disgusting and it's
really outside the. Charter and really these independent contractors and
nonprofits kind of fall outside of all the city and
state ethics. Laws they can do as they. Please and
it's an open secret here in. Town but this. Year
it doesn't seem to be taking because you cannot convince

(01:21:21):
the average. PERSON i don't care what neighborhood they're, in
AND i don't care what their race. Is what we're
hearing across the board is discussed with the situation where
public safety discuss about the. Crime everyone knows we don't
have enough police, officers and no matter how much they,
say that isn't the. Case the lived experience of people
in the neighborhood belies. That AND i just don't think

(01:21:44):
it's working this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Year that sounds like an opportunity for Otherwise republicans, independence
maybe some of the Sane democrats maybe change the tide
in the city Of. Cincinnati your vote really truly does matter.
More With Steve, gooden we're going to find out about
This irish. ROLLING a little bit of a going on
between you, Two. Steve we'll talk about that in just
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for the city running as a charter, right and that's
a okay with, Me steve Good and pivoting over to

(01:22:26):
your latest row With Iris, rowley there was being intentionally
on that. One so what is the? City obviously community active,
issues part of The Black Lives, matter AND i guess
she's a defund police. Type she's been interfering with police
officers trying to do their duty and deal with crime
and problems in Downtown. Cincinnati so we know about. Her

(01:22:47):
what do you how'd you get in a mix with her? Online,
well you, know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Yeah it's kind of. Crazy she she And Reverend David
lynch kind of unleashed their online followers on me this
week to the point where we where we where we
actually had to have the police check out some of
the MESSAGES i was getting from them that were threatening
and just. Bizarre you, know hundreds of people piling on

(01:23:13):
at her urging and what's really wild here is she
is a long time community activist was deeply involved in
the Collaborative agreement back in the early two, thousands and
back then you actually did some work that that a
lot of, people including police, officers actually came around to
see what was. Positive but you, know as they always,
say you, know in these, stories you, know you start

(01:23:35):
out as a, hero but if you stay in the
stage too, long you end up as the. Villain and
that's kind of where we are. Now she is a
paid consultant to the, administration reporting to the city manager
and to AFT tab to help allegedly help with the
Police Collaborative agreement and police community. Relations but what's really
happened is she has she makes hundreds of thousands of

(01:23:57):
dollars that she funnels in part to her, son who
is her sole employee of her small, company and no
one really knows exactly what they do all. Day there's no.
Metrics and we do know that she is openly critical
to police and that there's at least one video that
an officer has of her interfering with someone trying to

(01:24:20):
cite someone for a. Misdemeanor so you, know she's a,
big big flash point in police community relations both. Ways
but her real job is to go out there and
whip up support in the black church community for the.
Mayor and that's what she's doing. Now if she were
an actual city, employee she would have civil service rules

(01:24:42):
imposed upon her where she couldn't engage in electioneering and.
Campaigning but there's a loophole here for these paid, consultants
so she makes more than city, employees actually interferes with police,
business and then goes out in campaigns and tries to
whip not just whip up support for the, mayor but
attack other. Candidates had the temerity to call that out

(01:25:02):
on a couple of different radio programs and on A
tv interview into the improprieties around her, contract and she
came at me all. Weekend, Uh and you, know some of,
it some of it was kind of. Funny one guy
keeps referring to. Me one of her followers keeps referring
to me as, quote a mediocre, douchebag WHICH i THOUGHT

(01:25:22):
i was at least an extraordinary dude. Bag great disappointed
we called a mediocre. One and most of it's just
the kind of stuff you shrug. Off but the organized
nature of. It a paid city consultant is the part
of the part that should it should stir, people which
is AND i don't think it's very. Effective we're not
losing any, sleep BUT i frankly didn't THINK i was

(01:25:43):
getting any votes From irish early, anyway And i'm just
fine with. That but my, POINT i, guess my point
of view is it's yet one more gigantic ethical lapse
from this. Administration it's the kind of thing that's going
on in broad daylight that everyone should just be disgusted.
By she is getting the tax dollars for a contract
to do god knows what during the, day but we

(01:26:06):
know and see that the real purpose of it is
for her to go out there attack the mayor's opponents
and whip up, support you, know for his. Agenda and
they're using tax dollars to do, it and that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Wrong it is fundamentally. Wrong Steve gooden, again votegodin dot.
Com wish you all the, Best, steve AND i presume
you AND i will to be talking before the. Election
keep up the great work And i'll look forward to
talking with you again real. Soon thanks for your time this, morning, Anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Bran thank you all.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Right take care, brother have a great. Weekend on top of,
That Ohio Treasurer Robert spragg run For secretary Of. State
he is going to give us the latest on here
For secretary Of. State welcome back to the fifty Five
Krssey Morning, Show robert spraggu it's the pleasure to have
you on this. Morning Thanks, brian and with, you it's.
Pleasure sprague For, ohio s P R a g U
e For, ohio the word for not the number Four

(01:26:56):
ohio dot com where you can Find Robert spegg's. Website
i'm sure you appreciate. It campaign, contribution let us start
off a treasure spread on your campaign for secretary Of.
State what's your motivation for running and how's the campaign
going so?

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Far?

Speaker 10 (01:27:10):
WELL i, Think, brian that the cost of our freedom
is eternal, vigilance and the threats are constantly. Evolving our
enemies certainly would love to be able to control our,
elections at the very least be able to influence. Them
and as your Next secretary Of, STATE i want to
make sure that our elections are secure AND i also
want to make sure that they're, fair AND i have

(01:27:30):
a plan to make sure that our elections are both of.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Those, well what would you think as it currently. Stands
what is wrong with the current process in what way
will you fix it when you are elected to Be
secretary Of.

Speaker 10 (01:27:43):
State, Well i'll tell you we do a very good
job with elections in the state Of. Ohio but there
are a few things THAT i would make sure that
we are able to evolve and make sure that we
build upon the successes that we're already having and make
our election system even. More for one, THING i would
make sure that we have a front end citizenship check

(01:28:06):
to make sure that there are Only americans voting In ohio.
Elections you, know this idea of citizens being able to
vote in their, government having a social contract with their
government is so important to our constitutional. Republic and as
a matter of, fact our Current secretary of J Frank,
LeRose who's done a very good. Job he led the

(01:28:28):
effort in twenty twenty two to make sure that Our
constitution was amended to say that Only american citizens can
vote In ohio elections in a passed with seventy seven
percent of the. Vote so that's the first THING i
would do Is i'd moved to a front end citizenship.
Check and we can do that if we work with

(01:28:48):
the federal government and The trump administration make sure that
we have access to those.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Databases and that's so.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
FINE i saw this recent, article AND i don't know
If ohio Uses dominion voting. SYSTEMS a lot of red
flags way about this big. COMPANY i guess more than
twenty states Used. Dominion it just got bought out by
A missouri tech, entrepreneur Former republican director Of Saint Louis
City board Of, elections a guy Named Scott, liendecker and
he announced this the other. Day as of, Today dominion

(01:29:15):
has gone Liberty vote assumes full ownership and operational. Control
he's a pro paper ballot kind of. Guy so does
that transfer Of dominion ownership mean anything To? Ohio do
we Use? Dominion and this suggests made me a movement
in the right. DIRECTION a lot of people are still
hankering to get their paper ballots back because they have
no faith in basically, electronics AND i understand THAT.

Speaker 10 (01:29:37):
I do, too AND i think that no matter who
owns the voting, machines at the end of the, day
you've got to be careful that they're not. Compromised and
so that's why the second THING i would do as
your Next secretary Of, STATUS i would make sure that
we move to all paper ballots in every county in
every election that we have in the state Of. Ohio
AND i used to work At ernst And young WHEN

(01:29:59):
i Grant soon WHEN i first graduated from. College and
what they will tell you is that the paper ballot
gives you a beautiful audit. Trail you can always go
back and you can count the. Paper and as a
matter of, fact that's the requirement of The Ohio, constitution
is that we vote by, ballot which is a secret
piece of, paper and being able to check on the

(01:30:22):
paper and tabulate the paper gives you a check on the.
Machines the paper is never. Wrong and SO i want
to move to all paper ballots in the state Of.
Ohio sixty percent of the counties are already. There that's
the way they. Vote you have a separate piece of,
paper you can see who you voted, for and then
you submit it in the ballot box and then it's.

(01:30:42):
Tabulated it's the best way for us to vote in
the state Of.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Ohio scored some points in my listening audience for that, One,
sir appreciate that got to have a paper, trail all,
right pivoting over in your role as a Treasure what
is The Buckeye Loan? PROGRAM i saw this just announce
that you just launched.

Speaker 10 (01:30:58):
This this is a fabulous new. Program we want to
bring production back to the state Of. Ohio we want
to bring jobs back to the state Of. Ohio manufacturing
has always been the backbone of our, state and so
we're starting there with our brand New Buckeye Business. Advantage
if you're a listener right now and you happen to
have a small company under one hundred and fifty, employees

(01:31:22):
you will qualify if you want to expand your balance,
sheet if you can take out with the financial, institution
your local financial, institution you can take out up to
a million dollar loan to expand your. Business it could
be working. Capital this is flexible. Capital it could be
it could be you expanding your, plant it could be

(01:31:43):
putting in that new product. Line and we will reduce
the interest rate on that million dollar loan by up
to three percent for up to two years for. You
and that's the big deal because, look all the federal
news is about the lowering of interest. Rates, Correct, yeah
and here we are lowering interest rates with the state

(01:32:05):
twenty five billion dollar balance sheet by three hundred basis
points three, percent front running THE. Fed THE fed just
lowered by zero point two five percent or twenty five basis.
Points so this is a way that we can put
our balance sheet to. Work the first thing we're doing
is we're focusing on manufacturing because that's our bread and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Butter is a.

Speaker 10 (01:32:26):
State october is manufacturing. Month and then we anticipate coming
out with some other focuses on small. Businesses but this
is a great thing to help our state bring back,
jobs bring back, production bring back and know. How AND
i think that this is going to be a big
help to a lot of these small.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Businesses, well and you're still getting points on the loan.
Too it's not like you're giving it away for. Free
they have to pay. Back it's just a lesser loan
rate THAT i, mean that's a that's a great incentive
for folks to go out and borrow the. Money because
million dollars borrowed at what current bank, rates that's a
sizeable difference over a three point.

Speaker 10 (01:33:01):
Drop, yeah three point drop was actually real money for
a lot of these small, businesses and it could be
the difference between them being able to expand or. Not
right AND i love what you, Said, brian because it's
not as if we're stepping in as the government and
giving a. Grant it's actually the private market capitalism at.
Work you've got to get the loan from a private,

(01:33:23):
institution but we'll do our parts in the back office
plumbing of lowering the interest.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
RATE i think that's an important. Component that you're still
working with a bank who does due diligence and evaluates
the nature of your business and your credit. Worthiness so
the bank is actually doing the laboring or of work
for the. State the states is backing it up with
its own financial. RESOURCES i think this sounds like an excellent, idea.

Speaker 10 (01:33:47):
And there's no risk at The treasure's. OFFICE i, mean,
ultimately the bank or the financial institution has to underwrite,
that in other, words back it up with their own,
money so there's no risk to. Us so this is
a win win for, everybody and we hope that it'll
help small businesses expand and help our state grow.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Economically all, RIGHT i will acknowledge my ignorance on the entire.
TOPIC i regularly refer to cryptocurrency as like the peace Of,
god it passes all human. Understanding WHILE i at least.
Acknowledge it Passes Brian thomas's. Understanding, listen MY mensa membership
is worthless when it comes to stuff like. This it
doesn't mean, anything and it never. Has but what's the
story on the state Of ohio accepting crypto in connection

(01:34:26):
with certain. Transactions, well i'll tell you.

Speaker 10 (01:34:30):
What we decided that The Treasure's, office we could either
follow everybody, else all these other states that are being
able to accept cryptocurrency as, payment or we could. Lead
and there are a few states out there that are
doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Already but we have.

Speaker 10 (01:34:45):
Decided that if we, lead we get to determine the,
process we get to make it, secure and so we've
decided that we are going to launch a brand new
crypto payment. Platform the future is this digital. Currency everybody's
gonna want to pay with their phone With, apple pay With,
PayPal with stable, coin with, bitcoin with, ethereum and pretty,

(01:35:09):
SOON i think what you're going to see is it's
not just people that are going to want to pay
with these digital, currencies it is also corporations because it
is instantaneous and in many ways it's cheaper and it's more.
Secure so there are some valuable reasons to do.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
It we're going to do it the right. Way we are.

Speaker 10 (01:35:28):
Going to develop a cryptocurrency payment platform for the entire.
State that, way you can pay in cryptocurrency if you,
will if you want, to and we are immediately it's
going to happen actually outside The treasure's, office but we
are going to immediately make sure that it's transferred and

(01:35:48):
transformed INTO us dollars and so we will only HOLD us.
Dollars we will not be holding, cryptocurrency but it will
facilitate the. Payment and by the, way the state is
not paying that user. Fee the user is paying your
user fee to be able to use that new. Product
we think that we are going to have the best

(01:36:09):
and the safest product in The United states Of. America
we just went through THE rfp process and The board
Of deposit approved it, unanimously and we're looking forward to
getting that up and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Running and, BRIEFLY i don't want to hold up BECAUSE
i know we only have you this one, Segment Sir Robert,
spring treasurer or running for A secretary Of. State how do, you,
again going back to my ignorance on the, topic how
do you deal with the volatility at? CRYPTO i, mean
one day bitcoin's trading for twenty thousand, dollars the next
thing is trading for thirty thousand, dollars then it's back to.
FIFTEEN i Know i'm overstating the volatility of, it and trust,

(01:36:40):
ME i have no faith in the fiat. Currency but
The american dollar does not struggle with that level of
volatility on a day to day. BASIS i guess IF
i got one hundred dollars bill And i'm paying with,
Crypto crypto is worth x amount one day and maybe
less than next, tomorrow how does that translate into something
that you can use or real Briefly, roberts.

Speaker 10 (01:37:02):
That's a great, Question, brian and just real briefly. Bitcoin
because there's a limited amount of, it which is what
makes it, valuable it goes up and down huge volatility every.
Day you could pay in, bitcoin and the, transaction obviously,
digitally is almost, instantaneous and SO i guess that's how
you deal with the. Volatility but there's also stable, coin

(01:37:25):
and stable coin is a digital, coin but it's basically
a money market. Account it's a share in a money market,
account and so it's backed. Up for every stable, coin
it's backed up by A United states dollar and then
that dollar is in the money market, account it's invested
In United States treasury short term, treasury so it basically

(01:37:46):
operates just like a money market. Account and those stable
coins are pegged one to one to The United states.
Dollar so you can see now the difference between the
bitcoin and the stable, coin and you can see where
corporations with you, know maybe one of transact more and
more transactions in the stable coin type of a digital,
currency which will be, instantaneous. Safer and the other advantage

(01:38:12):
from like The treasure's office standpoint that people don't think.
About when you write a check to The treasure's, office
it does not cost you, anything but it costs the
treasure in the state Of ohio a lot because those
checks are pieces of, paper and it costs us actually
a great deal to process all that. Paper Understand, so
there definitely are advantages of moving into digital currency, direction

(01:38:33):
but we have to be very. Careful we're being, cautious
we're being.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
PROUDED i appreciate the prudence and the caution we enter
into the great. Unknown Robert, sprague he's unner For secretary Of,
state he's currently our treasure help him out on his
Campaign sprague For ohio Dot. Com Roberts, BRAGG i appreciate
your willingness to come on The morning show over the,
years AND i wish you the best in the, future
AND i look forward to having you as Oh House
secretary Of. State and further conversations down the, road. Sir

(01:38:59):
it's conversing editor in CHIEF Jah Press, Network Jack windsor
returns talk about dewines what he refers to his war on,
hemp And i'm kind of puzzled over that. ONE i
know he came out with some pronouncements regarding hemp products
the other. Day we'll see if that transcends the law
in the state of the, land which, is you, know
we're allowed to apparently grow hemp at zero point three
PERCENT thhc and. Lower, anyway cites his property tax. Plan

(01:39:21):
what's in? It what does it mean and what did
they come up? With So i'll get that explanation From
jack after the top of the. Hour then at the
bottom of the Ar Corey bowman on the debate last.
Night he'll join us at a. Thirty thank You Joe
streker for making me crack up every TIME i look
at the rundown because he didn't Put Corey bowman. Down
he Put Jade vance's half brother. Down because that seems
to be the way the Enquire another local media tends

(01:39:42):
to refer to him as he has a, name it
Is Corey. Bowman let's see What bobby's got this. Morning,
Bobby welcome to The Morning. Show Happy, friday my.

Speaker 11 (01:39:52):
BROTHER i like to make a comment about the debate
IF i can absolutely all Some. WELL i saw some
people THAT i. RECOGNIZE i was in the audience and,
stuff and they're the new cast members of the sitcom
that there will be producing In. CINCINNATI i don't know
if it's out yet or, not but it's called The.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Grifters you talking about the members of the non governmental
organization of those who are influenced by very various paid
for non governmental organizations Using city Of cincinna tax fair
dollars for political. Purposes is that what you're referring?

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
To?

Speaker 11 (01:40:23):
Hello and the next one we, got we went ahead
to set the shooting handicap For polkopolis at five and
a half for the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Weekend is that what it? Is, okay, well, Shooting i'll
be thinking of you. Today, bobby going to head out
to the range with my daughter and her fiance and
squeeze off some handgun and long gun rounds at my private.
Range AND i know you're a fan because you always say, faith,
family flag and. Firearms so your ears are burning Today
bobby and me have mentioned you on the.

Speaker 11 (01:40:54):
Range it's, uh it's glock day also, tomorrow remark.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
Three glock days. Tomorrow thank you for the extra spot
for my friends at twenty three. Three, bobby have a wonderful, weekend,
man keep the flag. Flying. Yeah on the, DEBATE i
got to mention this real quick here because the huge
problem that popped up After Hyde. Park you, know we
all know the backstory on that they have the connected communities.
Thing it applies to all. Neighborhoods you have no say

(01:41:21):
as a local, neighborhood one of the fifty two within
the city Of. Cincinnati sucks to be. You you aren't
allowed to control your own. Destiny that's the bottom line
and the point on That Hyde park, said hell, no
they got a petition to go on the ballot to
repeal that mandate regarding the well connected developers and the
various projects they were doing in spite of the desires
Of Hyde park. Residents, WELL i have to have purple
kind of addressing this, yesterday he claims we're in a housing,

(01:41:43):
crisis and solving the crisis required construction of affordable. Housing
got a market force problem with, that aftab sorry, said
since his previous zoning laws were hindering, progress so what
do they? Do they slapped a one size fits all
connected communities proposal on every, neighborhood and he said that

(01:42:03):
they sometimes need to disagree with residents in one part
of the town in order to help the needs of
the residents in the entire. City quote tell me if
you don't hear little marks in this from each according's
ability to each court to his. Need, quote we are
going to do the, hard sometimes unpopular work of building
housing Across cincinnati because pole after pole will show you

(01:42:26):
we need, housing and we need more specifically affordable, housing
suggesting that the city cannot become a city for solely wealthy. People,
now is that a marketing strategy to bring people in
the city Of. Cincinnati in other, words, hey you are
always going to be subject to the whim of cincinna city.
Council it's unpopular work we're. Doing that unpopular work is

(01:42:49):
going to land or potentially could land in your. Neighborhood
so as you're selecting a neighborhood that fits your, needs your,
style your measure of, affordability you might Like Hyde. Park
you might look at the square and, say, man this
is a gorgeous. Neighborhood it's basically a walking. Community look
at all the lovely, homes look at the, cars look
at the, shops look at the. STORES i like it.
Here but the looming thread is that your neighborhood may be,

(01:43:12):
disrupted disrupted into the form of a mandated affordable housing.
Complex going in there and ask yourself this, question how
do you calculate? Affordability you old real estate, mantra, location, location,
Location AND i would argue that the new housing that
was originally proposed In Hyde, park if you let market
forces apply and you don't institute sort of rent, control

(01:43:33):
if you want to live In Hyde, park it's going
to cost you. More let's say you have a seven
hundred square foot apartment apartment. Complex you know you're, OKAY
i got my rent on seven hundred square. FEET i
guarantee you as sure As i'm sitting, here rent on
seven hundred square feet In Hyde park is going to
be a hell of a lot less than. Rent in
let's just pick one, Randomly avondale or even on the west,

(01:43:55):
Side West, End Corey bauman's down. There how much rent
would you get for a seven hundred square foot apartment
in the West end Versus Hyde. Park so you can't
just say we are going to build affordable housing unless
you dictate what exactly affordable is and you limit market
forces from actually. Applying you can see how this works.

(01:44:15):
Out i'd be scared as hell about, that AND i
don't think that's a good look for The city Of.
Cincinnati in other, words you in any given neighborhood can't
control your own. Destiny your property values may very well
be impacted by something the city. MANDATES i don't like
that at, all AND i feel very sorry for some

(01:44:38):
of my residents in The city Of cincinnati because that's
already happened to. Them how much is your house worth
over and, say, OH i don't know price ill now
versus maybe fifteen years, ago six right? Now if you
have kercity talk Station Jack windsor from The High Press
network on that war ON hemp and we'll figure out
around the.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
COUNTRY i need to know the weather in traffic we
don't know on fifty FIVE Krc.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Talkstation appropriately time bumper music From executi Producer Joe. Strecker
to deal with the first topic we're going to get.
Too If Jack windsor returns to these editor in chief
of The Ihio Press, network which you can find, online
AND i encourage you to do so The ohio pressnetwork
dot com front page right. There Governor Ohio governor suspends

(01:45:26):
sales intoxicating hemp. Products Jack, windsor it's great having you
on the fifty FIVE Krc Morning, Show. Sir welcome On Happy. Friday.

Speaker 9 (01:45:33):
Brian it's always an honor to be here with you
and THE krc family And, joe thanks for setting it.
Up always appreciate being.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
Here thank, you AND i love having you on because
you'll be able to explain a couple of things to.
Me most, notably we're going to get to. THIS i you,
Know I'm i'm confused as hell about The ohio property tax.
Situation let's table that just for a. MOMENT i THINK
i understand hemp a little bit. Better that's not a revealing,
statement but we have hemp is legal to. Grow i've

(01:46:01):
HAD i, Mean Thomas massey worked on this. Forever hemp
has what point three or less of the INTOXICATING, thc
which is the big thing that's going to get your.
Stone so hemp has got a million different industrial. Uses
you can make clothes out of, it you can make
ballpoint pens out of, it you can make wood out of,
it on and on and. On an amazing multipurpose. Use

(01:46:22):
miners saying it's easy to. Grow it's it grows. Quickly
so this has got all kinds of positives built into.
It BUT i draw a, parallel and, You Jack, windsor
can tell me If i'm. WRONG i guess industrial hemp's
kind of like the poppy. Plant you can get opium
out of, poppy but that's not good. Enough you need something,
stronger so you make morphine out of the, opium and

(01:46:43):
then you make heroin out of the. Morphine so you
keep concentrating it and refining it to the point where
it gets well dangerous zero point three percent, THCHC i
guess can be concentrated down to an intoxicating level of.
Thchc IF i got the lay of the land on, that, Right,
JACK i think you.

Speaker 9 (01:46:59):
Do you have the lay of the land on that
and one of the, issues and Then i'll stop because
you may want to direct me into a different. Direction so,
one it can be hyper concentrated and extremely. Intoxicating that's number.
One but number, TWO i think the geist under Which
DeWine has proposed This Executive order twenty twenty five FIVE.

(01:47:22):
D he's calling it an adulterated consumer product emergency is
that these products are maybe not labeled accurately and they
are sold without. Verification so the issue That DeWine talks
about is a kid can go to a corner, store c,
store convenience, store gas station and, say, HEY i want

(01:47:44):
some of those things that look like gushers or those
things that look like cabbage patch kids or those things
that you know looks look like, whatever and buy, them
go to, school take, them get. High and if you
saw the press conference he had On, wednesday was really
what the lab coat beside him said from The Poison
Control center was that there has been a drastic increase

(01:48:07):
in the number of calls and poison cases for nineteen
year olds in, below some of those resulting in. Hospitalization
so there is there are a couple of issues, here
and we can kind of tease those tease those, out
But i'll just stop.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
There, no that's an excellent but it's a, great great
explanation of what's going on. Here so it sounds to
me like something that's in need of labeling laws or you,
know there needs to be, warnings maybe an age cutoff
like there is for, alcohol like there is for purchasing legalized.
Marijuana you can't just walk into a store and buy.
Weed at a marijuana, shop you got to show them
YOUR id to get, in blah blah. Blah so you

(01:48:42):
can go to the like a convenience store and buy
these concentrates in the form of hemp without any other
protocols in. Place that that's not sounds like something to
be need. Fixing so do you have any criticism with
the way in which he went about? It this sounds
like it requires legislative. Action oh.

Speaker 9 (01:49:00):
YEAH i spent my entire radio show yesterday Dragging mike
to wine BECAUSE i want to remind listeners And i'm,
sorry not. Sorry this is a guy who vetoed the
say fact that would have kept kids from taking chemical
castration drugs and cutting off healthy body. Parts this is
a guy who used tax dollars to incent experimental jabs for,

(01:49:22):
kids which we now know calls, myocarditis and we knew back,
then but he ignored those. Warnings so Whenever mikedwine strolls
out with a lab coat beside him to pretend like
he cares for, kids my initial thought is how MUCH
bs AM i going to have to wade through here
to get the. Truth so that's one, Issue but the
second issue is are we using a wrecking ball where
we could use a? Scalpel AND i like, Bourbon i'm

(01:49:44):
not afraid to say, That and so WHEN i look
at intoxicating, HEMP i, go why don't we treat it like?
Bourbon and WHAT i mean by that, is if you
go to any gas, station you can get, beer you
can get, wine and you can get those little. Fireballs
now they're watered down.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
Water bourbon or water down. Liquor, basically if it's under
WHAT abv or something like, that, yes.

Speaker 9 (01:50:09):
If it's under a certain, percentage you can get. It
and if you want the good, stuff as bourbon drinkers
like me would tell, you you go to AN ohlq
site In kroger or In Giant. Eagle so why can't
we do the same? Thing and people go, well you,
know do you know how hard it is to let
people know that they need to? Card AND i, go, well,

(01:50:30):
no that seems like a straw man, argument because if
he's going to outlaw intoxicating him by the, fourteenth guess
what he's going to communicate WITH cea, stores gas stations
and other purveyors of these. Products why can't you then
say in that, communication we're going to require you to,
card and then you can start this process of making
sure the labels are, accurate making sure that we create
rules through legislation around how much concentrated hemp you can.

(01:50:55):
Sell but why can't we treat it like? Alcohol my big,
beef by the, way IS i have some friends in
the alcohol distribution. BUSINESS i don't understand why an alcohol
distribution business who sells hemp beverages is now required to
take all that off their shelves when, frankly those are
the ones that are probably labeled accurately and sold to adult.

(01:51:16):
Consumers so, again this feels to me like a wrecking,
ball whereas scalpel is. NEEDED i hope that makes.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Sense it, does And i'm not disagreeing with you. Fundamentally,
now are there quality controls in connection with the so
called intoxicating hemp, products because you go to a marijuana,
store it's got all kinds of quality. Controls it has
to tay exact concentrations when it was, inspected it was
expected by a third party outside. Inspector so you get
some level of comfort what you're smoking or taking whatever

(01:51:44):
isn't laden with all kinds of chemicals or mites or.
That now with the concentrated hemp, industry are they subject
to those quality?

Speaker 9 (01:51:52):
Controls you know they are, not and they should. Be
AND i think that is the crux of the issue
is how do we get our arms around the, packaging
what's inside the package and making sure that it's, compliant
that it's, accurate that it's. Safe and so that is
certainly a steer that we have to wrestle with. HERE i,

(01:52:13):
mean if you look at the story we have on
The oiopress, network we have, them we have pictures there
gushers and then you have some other smaller branded Gushers
that is. Confusing and by the, way that's probably an
intellectual property. ISSUE i, mean that's a lawsuit waiting to.
HAPPEN i can't believe somebody has not sued those.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Distributors.

Speaker 9 (01:52:30):
Right, so, yes those are issues THAT i think we
have to wrestle. With but, AGAIN i think we do it.
Legislatively but here's the other ISSUE i want to bring, Up,
brian BECAUSE i think it needs to be. DISCUSSED i
have a fundamental. Issue if we're going to do this
the same way that we did, casinos.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
We created a.

Speaker 9 (01:52:49):
Cartel we created a government. Monopoly and if you're telling
me that in order to sell hemp you have to
now do it through the handful of dispensaries that our government,
APPROVED i think that creates another government created, monopoly AND
i think that stifles. Competition And i'm not for that makes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Sense it, does and we outright rejected that cartel. Situation
the voters Of, ohio the ones that approved legalization in,
marijuana ultimately said hell no to these hands selected what
we always referred to as cartel. MEMBERS i remember talking
to the people who were behind the effort and when
you look behind the, Scenes, GEE i wonder how somebody
was hand. Selected, oh it's because You're John bayner and

(01:53:25):
you're part of one of the collectives that is pushing
for one of these. Licenses, so and it was supposed
to go into The constitution at the time as. Well
oh my, god what a train wreck that. Was so
nobody out there in The ohio population wants to go
down that. Road Jack, ones, RIGHT i agree with. You,
now is there something in connection with the chemical nature
of this intoxicating? Himp BECAUSE i know law enforcements always

(01:53:47):
struggling and legislators elect officials always struggling with they come
out with a designer drug which is not on anybody's
field of. Vision it doesn't. Exist it comes up one,
day it gets people whacked out of their, mind but
it's not. Scheduled they have to pass a lass scheduling
that new. Compound is there some component of that involved
with the type OF thhc that's coming out of these.

Speaker 9 (01:54:07):
CONCENTRATES i think that's exactly what's going to. Happen this executive.
ORDER i believe it has empowered The High department Of
agriculture to determine what is intoxicating hemp and what is legal, hemp,
essentially because intoxicating hemp will then be forbidden at least
for ninety days unless the legislature says after thirty, days,

(01:54:27):
no we're going to handle. This there's no more emergency.
Order SO i think what they're going to have to
wrestle with is exactly what you're talking, about what is
the concentration. Level and we're going to have to get
that stuff though over the finish line in, bills not executive,
orders and SO i think that's where this will shake.
Out the challenge that we're going to run into is

(01:54:48):
the governor's intoxicating Hemp band has already drawn a. Lawsuit
The Ohio Healthy Alternatives association Said thursday it's suing to
block the executive. Action so this will likely get tied
up in. Court so potentially that executive order might you,
know a judge might issue a stay while this plays
out in. Court, yeah and so we're gonna have time
to figure all that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Out. Well if they issue an, injunction that is a
suggestive of likelihood of success on the, merits meaning those
who are seeking to stop this executive. Order if they
get an, injunction then the court has already determined that
maybe something was. Wrong he didn't have the authority to do,
it he overstepped his. Boundary this is something that belongs
to the legislative. Branch so popcorns out on that. One
Jack windsor will see what. Happens points well taken this,

(01:55:30):
Morning i'll tell you. What we'll pause, now we'll bring you.
Back see if you can unpackage property tax in the
state Of. Ohio, Yes Bill Sites's Property Tax Working group
has issued their recommendations war With Jack. Windsor after these
brief words stick around fifty FIVE.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Krc it's eighteen on A.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Friday Happy friday to. You bottom of the. Hour we're
gonna hear From Corey bowman AKA. Jd vans's half. Brother
thank You joe on the rundown Anytime Jack winsor is
on the. Front he's a editor in chief of The
Ohio Press network final online ad of, course The Ohio
pressnetwork dot. Com real quick comment on the last, Topic.
Jack question from one of my listeners on an instant, Message,

(01:56:10):
Well governor to wine build a build a wall to
block the borders From ohio To kentucky and Maybe indiana
in order to keep intoxicating hemp products. OUT i guess
the next question on that Real, Briefly Jack, windsor this
doesn't stop people from ordering it online and having it
delivered to their front, door does.

Speaker 9 (01:56:26):
It, well that's a great question and that's a question
THAT i didn't have an answer to, yesterday And i'm
still trying to. Discern the initial answer was, no they
can still do the mail order, thing BUT i was
warned yesterday that that might be a sticky. Area so
if that's what you're, DOING i don't want to give
any legal. Advice and, frankly, AGAIN i think that there's

(01:56:47):
probably going to be an injunction issued BECAUSE hemp is,
legal and there are not laws essentially being, broken and
so you have an executive order to me that does
not have a law to backstop. It SO i think
we're kind of in murky water. HERE i think the
best wine is going to get is a, pause and
we're gonna probably have to get the lawmakers, involved AND
i think they're frankly between you and. Me as we

(01:57:09):
toggle to this next, TOPIC i think lawmakers are collectively
rolling their eyes like there goes the governor, again you,
know trying to trying to play congressional representative or state
lawmaker instead of playing. Governor AND i think they're about
to take the reins on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
This right he'll get smacked by the, courts and then the,
lawmakers recognizing the obvious need for some fixes and some
holes in the bucket being. Plugged should act very. Quickly
this seems like a no, Brainer, Jack all, right what
isn't a no rain Property Tax Working group and the.
Recommendations we've got a serious problem in the state Of,
ohio so much so there's a ballot initiative to eliminate
all property taxes a constitutional. Amendment AND i know that's

(01:57:46):
got a lot of people quicking in their, boots AND
i sort of smile over the concept BECAUSE i love
the idea of not having property. Taxes but The charlie
foxtrot reality of having no property taxes up ends the
whole financing structure for parks and police and fire and
local issues and school. Boards and are we gonna Let

(01:58:07):
columbus decide where the money goes and are they going
to collect some extra sales tax? Whatever but, that of
course has resulted in The Property Tax Working group on
the heels of the veto of three provisions that would
have provided some measure of relief for O high as
it was in the. Budget dwine promised that none of
The Property Tax Working group is going to give us
some great, ideas and here they. Are is there anything

(01:58:27):
in This Property Tax Working group that you can explain
to my, listeners because AS i read, it my eyes
gloss over jacket really is painful to.

Speaker 9 (01:58:35):
Read let me take two tracks. Here the first one
is to shed light on how serious this. IS i,
believe based on my conversations with, Lawmakers, brian that lawmakers
Take Governor Dowin's Property Tax Reform Working, group stacked with
lobbyists who have vested interest in maintaining the status, quo
about as seriously as guys like you and me would

(01:58:55):
take a toddler's crayon scribbled business plan for running a
lemonade stand. IN i, mean it's, king but at the
end of the, day we're looking at a toddler's. Work
that's totally HOW i feel that lawmakers are looking at,
this and you're, right real, quick just a, Reminder Originally
County Budget commission authority would have been increased in the,

(01:59:17):
budget cash balance carryovers for schools would have been, restricted
a revamp at the twenty mili floor calculation would have
been in, play and school district leve levees would have
been restricted because it would have take away misnomers like
emergency and replacement. Levees dwine didn't like. Those but here's
at the end of the, Day, no when you talk about,

(01:59:40):
one lawmakers are not taking this. Seriously so regardless of
what they did or didn't, DON'T i don't think it's
going to make you, know a bit of.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Difference but.

Speaker 9 (01:59:50):
It was a symbolic. GESTURE i, mean there was some
focus on short term, fixes like they would move the
carryover balance that schools could carry over to one hundred
percent instead of forty. Percent they would create this five
year glide path for, levies which essentially, says look their,
grandfathers you can't cut them. Right and there was a

(02:00:12):
lot of support for existing pieces of, legislation and so to,
me it shied away from radical, overhauls prioritizing what they
would call fairness and transparency over deep. Cuts and at
the end of the, Day, BRIAN i think you hit
it nail on the. Head at the, beginning this feels
like we're rearranging deck furniture on The titanic because property

(02:00:33):
taxes might be a sinking ship in the state Of.
Ohio citizens, said all, right lawmakers, listened they put it
in the, budget dwind, vetoed and now they didthered right
and they came up with this twenty point plan that
doesn't seem to make a damn bit of difference for
the average. TAXPAYER i think what this has done is
it has increased interest in totally slashing property, taxes making,

(02:00:55):
them you, know. Unconstitutional that's WHERE i think we're.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
At how let me just test the, Waters Jack, windsor
how does that play out in? Reality going back to my,
point you take away the local property tax, issues you
take away the local levy issues because there's no more property.
Tax how does? It how do you sort of deal
with the? Aftermath?

Speaker 9 (02:01:17):
Jack, yeah no fair. Question And i'm really glad that
you're holding my feet to the fire on. This the
Example i'll give you that's cheeky is if you ever
taken a drug of choice away from an, addict an
addict will always find a way to get their drug of,
choice you, know all things being. Equal, well you're trying
to take money away from people addicted to power and.
Money eventually they're going to figure out a way to

(02:01:38):
get their. Money and SO i think the real question
is has it been done? Before and the answer is,
yes places Like, Wyoming, Tennessee, Nevada, Florida, washington they have
a state income tax of. Zero now In ohio we
have a two point seventy five percent flat. TAX i
think we're headed to zero, there but right now it's
two point seventy five. Percent those other states THAT i just,
named they have zero point six percent point sixty six

(02:02:00):
point six to eight point eight nine point ninety, two almost,
zero but not zero property. Tax and so, ultimately if
we have two point seventy five percent income, tax that
buoy's some of that. Money it's just we're going to
have to change The Ohio Revised code and rules and
The Higho Administrative code on how money flows through to those,
entities particularly, schools fire, departments and police. Departments but, overall

(02:02:22):
when you look at this these other, states you, know
no income, tax low property, tax what do they? Do
then they rely on sales tax seven to ten, percent
or excise taxes or business. Taxes so there are other revenue,
streams and what we will simply see is an increase
in those taxes and in those. Assessments But i'm going

(02:02:42):
to go back to if you ever take a drug
of choice away from an, addict they always find their
drug of. CHOICE i don't think we're going to have
an issue with The General assembly or other people in
power finding a way to get the money that they.
Want we're just going to have To we all like, change,
Right it's the transition that. Sucks it's the. Transition it's
going to be tough because we're going to have to
go from relying on property taxes to fund these things

(02:03:04):
to relying on other revenue. Streams but, ULTIMATELY i think
that's what's going to.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
Happen, well they're gonna have to get ahead of the
curve on this property tax issue where they look at
the work property tax working group, stuff or some go
down some other path because they're going to have a
lot of work to do in elected. Capacity if we
repeal the property tax In, ohio they're gonna have to
do a lot of work to. Do, yeah all, right
for Sid Jack, windsor you can find him again at

(02:03:28):
The Ohio Press network and we'll look for you, Online Jack,
winsor appreciate what you.

Speaker 10 (02:03:32):
Do.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
Man you're always welcome here on the fifty Five Krsy.
Morning should have a great, weekend Brother, brian you, too thank, You,
Dication Happy. Friday early voting is going on right. Now
you apparently have twenty eight, days and you can see
the countdown At corey bowman dot. Com it's right there
on the front page of his. Website twenty five, days eleven,
hours fifty nine, minutes and now eighteen seconds to. Vote Corey,

(02:03:53):
Bowman welcome back to the fifty Five Cars Morning show
on the heels of your debate against Aftab pervoll last
night At. Xavier how you feel this, Morning, Corey, Well i'm.

Speaker 4 (02:04:02):
Getting a lot.

Speaker 6 (02:04:03):
BETTER i just stopped by my shop and got my
first quartato for the, day so it's gonna be a
good day, today. Sir how you doing great to have
be on the.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
Show it's. Great so you Know wednesday night at the
smitham and. FUNDRAISER i, MEAN i know you pretty, Well.
COREY i Mean i've talked to you a lot on the,
Air i've talked to you off. Air i've heard you
comment and in no, way shape or form WOULD i
ever like to declare you as some sort of maga,
conservative which apparently is exactly what after have Pro ball came,
out we created a drinking game yesterday in anticipation in,

(02:04:33):
debate anytime someone Mentions trump or, maga that was a
shot and of course he accused you of being A Maga.
REPUBLICAN i don't know why the. Audience somebody said that
he said you're A maga extremist and the audience. Booting
SO i don't know why the audience is. Booing and
the fact that he REPRESENTS. MAGA i, mean you either
support The trump agenda or you. Don't you can't run
for mayor and not be concerned with the federal employees

(02:04:55):
who are getting, fired not be concerned with the racializing
of our own public safety challenges here in. Community, DUDE
i have never heard you racialize. Anything i've never heard
you even address federal level funding and spending because you're
not running for an office that controls or has anything
to do with. It that did that really irk? YOU
i guess this is my fundamental. Question did you feel,

(02:05:15):
like oh my, GOD i have to actually spend time
pointing this reality? Out, WELL i don't.

Speaker 6 (02:05:24):
Know it's because basically we knew that these were going
to be the talking. Points you, know the playbook's always the.
Same and for, me like you, said we're running this
race For, cincinnati and so our biggest battle that we've
had throughout the entire year is just showing people that
we're not running this based on copy and pasting national.
POLITICS i have opinions on national politics like everybody, does

(02:05:45):
but that really shouldn't be brought to city hall when
it comes to just fixing your roads and making sure
the money spent properly and make sure that your crime
is in. Order these are practical issues that require just
common sense, solutions AND i think that's what people are tired,
of you. Know and people were booing when that was brought,
up because that's what people are fed up. With they're

(02:06:07):
fed up with people from city hall trying to act
like they're on a national stage when really we need
to be focusing on the people that are on the
streets Of. Cincinnati and that's.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
It, well and they kept coming back with. IT i
not if the end of the debate they just ask you, out, Pointy,
plank if there's anything you disagree With trump on. AGAIN i,
Mean trump's dealing with global affairs, warfare he's dealing with
interstate commerce, issues fighting like national drug. CRISES i, MEAN
i know what they're trying to, Do. Corey i'm not an,

(02:06:37):
idiot but you know IT'S i think, personally it's insulting
to the audience in the, crowd who are presumably residents
of The city Of cincinnati or care about City cincinnati
issues for him to be pushing things on a national.
Level Christopher smithlan has harped on this for years and.
Years why are they passing ordinances in the city Of
cincinnati saying something like we disagree With. Israel you got

(02:07:00):
no connection With. Israel get back to the business of
The city Of. Cincinnati damn, It, no you're absolutely.

Speaker 6 (02:07:06):
True you, know there's obviously things from the national level
that impact local. Citizens and so if there is clear Anti,
semitism that there's clear discrimination against a certain group for a,
race that's stuff that we have to stand up against
no matter. What but you know what's funny is THAT
i was at THE boe AND i was casting my.

(02:07:26):
Vote i'm a little. BIASED i won't tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:07:28):
WHO i voted.

Speaker 6 (02:07:28):
For but As i'm, THERE i speak with a gentleman
and he's wearing A palestine sweatshirt on and initially he's
yelling at my guys because he disagrees with a lot
of stuff from a national standpoint of what the conservative
movement stands. FOR i spoke with him for five, minutes
AND i kid you. Not after five, minutes he realized

(02:07:49):
what we were running this race on and he told
me point, Blank i'm going to switch my vote from
mappab to you because of what you've just told me right.
Now SO i just think that that is symbolic of
what this campaign has to, represent is just getting people to,
realize we have to run this For. Cincinnati we have
to take care of our own. Streets you, know one
thing last night they kept, saying AND i don't, KNOW

(02:08:11):
i don't know whether he just has people in his
ear that flat out, lie but he kept saying That
i've called for The National guard to come To cincinnati
Never and What i've What i've told people over and
over and over is that Number, one we don't have
violent riots currently in the. Streets that's not the, case
so we don't need. It Number, two a city that's

(02:08:32):
run properly can actually take care of its own. Crime
but that's not what's happening right. Now we've got to
change this from internal structure Within.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Well pause Ring corey bumming. Back we'll talk about the
crime specific conversation in, exchange but ALSO i want to
talk to him about the exchange about controlling one's own
destiny in one's own neighborhood within the city Of, cincinnati
insofar as property. GOES i thought that was rather revealing
what they have to. Have pervoll revealed yesterday eight thirty,
Six right now With Corey bowman after these brief, words.

Speaker 3 (02:09:02):
Fifty FIVE krc is your five million talk.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
Station Brent towmins With Corey, bowman mayoral. Candidate find the
on Line Corey bowman dot. Com we have a choice
and it is open voting right. NOW i want to
pivot over to housing and, development AND i have to
have pro ball was on and on Yesterday Corey bowman
about the need to create and build affordable. HOUSING i
think he claims he wants to. Build he personally is
going to get a hammer out and build forty thousand
affordable housing. Units before we get to the question of

(02:09:26):
what exactly is affordability and is it the same in
any given. Neighborhood he sure as hell pointed out that
you do not really have the right to self. Determination
we need affordable. Housing he's firm in that in order
to solve that, crisis we have to build. Them and
he said the prior zoning laws were what was binding
or hindering. Progress, NOW i know you'll have a word

(02:09:47):
or two on that in your neighborhood, specifically you know
what was hindering. Progress but he said sometimes that the
council and the mayor's always need to disagree with residents
in one part of town or to address the needs
of residence in the entire, city saying we're going to
do the, hard sometimes unpopular work of building housing across

(02:10:08):
the city because pole after pol will show you we
need this kind of affordable. HOUSING i, mean he's isn't
he basically saying that if you move in the city Of,
cincinnati you're under threat or risk of having your neighborhood
completely transformed in spite of what you want on populars
may be by them foisting a bunch of affordable housing
in your. Neighborhood that is not exactly a welcome sign
for moving to the city Of. Cincinnati Corey, bowman your, response,

(02:10:32):
NOW i think that you know.

Speaker 6 (02:10:33):
The argument on the other side is that you know
what we're seeing from the federal government, dictatorship and you,
know taking authority where you. Shouldn't but that's exactly what
we saw last. Night from From Atpat purval and he
said the he, said the real part out loud is that,
basically no matter what you feel about your, neighborhoods no
matter what you feel about, development we are going to

(02:10:54):
issue our own, development our own standards on, zoning and
you're not going to have anything to say about. It
AND i don't think that's Right cincinnati. Especially you, know
it's one thing to regulate certain things downtown because you
have to have businesses and you have to have residential
all working. Together but we are a city of fifty two.
Neighborhoods every neighborhood has its own, uniqueness its own. Character

(02:11:17):
and if you're sitting there saying that we're going to
copy and paste our own, design development and zoning regulations
on you and you basically can't say anything about, it,
well in my, mind that is not properly representing the
people of your. City AND i don't think that's. Right you,
know we see that in The West. End they've put
somewhereabouts you, can you, know basically prove about sixty seven

(02:11:38):
to seventy, percent but really it's about you, know closer
to eighty percent of affordable, housing and they keep calling
it affordable housing and the government subsidized. Housing you, know
LIKE i jokingly, said BUT i knew the fact that
it is thirty sixty. Percent. AMI i have a friend
that's developing a property across the street from my coffee
shopping's do an eighty. Percent, ami it's just government stuff todize.

(02:12:00):
Housing to try to put it, down the problem is
is that what they're funding is organizations in goos and
people that don't have the tenant's best interest at. Heart
they're funneling, money and then on top of, that they're
building concrete blocks that basically feel like a, prison and
they really are because they're keeping people in poverty the

(02:12:21):
rest of their. Lives there's no pathway. Out AND i
couldn't disagree more with the policy of what's been happening.

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
Currently, well you may have answered my question because earlier
in the, PROGRAM i was, saying what is affordable? Housing
just like you. Are no one ever puts a dollar
sign on it, necessarily but even if they, did if
you build a complex In Hyde, park six hundred square foot,
apartments that's going to command a certain rent because it's
in a certain. Neighborhood, now if you build the same
complex in your neighborhood in The West, end would a

(02:12:48):
six hundred squarefoot apartment command the same rent as an
apartment In Hyde? Park Location location, LOCATION i would suggest,
perhaps at least as of right, Now Hyde park's going
to command a much higher rent because of market forces and. Desirability.

Speaker 6 (02:13:01):
No, Absolutely and, honestly that's why the entirety of The
West side is so up in arms right now is
because you can buy a house with the same, property
same architectural design on the west, side same, beauty same,
character and then you buy the same house on the east,
side and the east side is going to go for
one hundred and two hundred thousand. More and so what

(02:13:22):
happens is that these, policies when it comes to the affordable,
housing ultimately you're kind of trying to mimic or you're not,
mimic but you're trying to dictate the, market and when
you do that property value just goes. Down, overall you're
concentrating the. Poverty therefore you're concentrating the. Crime and then
one Thing i'd say to the opposition is that you're

(02:13:42):
showing up for photo ops to Pay Black Lives matter
On City, hall but really do black lives matter when
it comes to this affordable. Housing from What i've, seen
you concentrate poverty and, crime which inadversly it affects the black.
Communities and that's something that.

Speaker 8 (02:13:59):
We have to.

Speaker 6 (02:13:59):
Fight we have to give everybody the opportunity to have
a step up in. Prosperity and that's not what's.

Speaker 1 (02:14:05):
Happening that is not what's. Happening all, right we're gonna
pivot over to. Crime we'll take a quick break right,
now Bring Corey bowman back to talk about the back
and forth yesterday during the debate At Zavier university on.
Crime one more with mayor ol Candidate Corey bowman again
online At coreybowman dot. Com let's be.

Speaker 3 (02:14:21):
Right back fifty FIVE Krc Sports.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
STATION i share that sentiment on A, Friday Corey bowman's
on the. Line he was involved in the debate with.
MAYOR i have to have. PURVAL i think he did
an excellent job last. Night Corey, bowman and you got

(02:14:45):
one more debate with the. MAYOR i guess real quick
here on the property THING i Take, MAYOR i have
to have provol said something along the lines the city
can't become a city just solely for wealthy. People but
isn't that exactly what they did when they gentrified over The,
ryan kicking a lot of longtime residents out because they
can no longer afford, it moving in a bunch of
urban hipsters because they came with jobs and salaries that are, Taxed,

(02:15:09):
corey wasn't that the point of? Gentrification?

Speaker 6 (02:15:13):
No and then also in the current area OF, otr
everybody wants to talk About south Of, Liberty that's where
the mayor has all the. Videos nobody wants to talk
About north Of. Liberty you, know last NIGHT i invited
to Guests Ronda winn to be on the front. Row,
Now i'll be honest with, You i've had talked with
her and she wasn't fully convinced about the race. Yet

(02:15:35):
she's just trying to get justice for her daughter's murder
that happened north Of liberty IN. Otr and still to this,
day the mayor has not reached out to. Her last,
night he had a perfect example to meet her and
didn't meet her on the front. Row and then so
Afterwards Ms ronda comes up to. Me he, Says i'm with.
You we're going to get this. Thing and so those
are things that we're, seeing is that when you talk

(02:15:57):
about the gentrification or when you talk about these housing,
policies it ultimately leads to concentrated, crime and that is
leaving victims at the hands of all these. Criminals and
that's what we've got to. Stop it's basically a trickle
down in confidence from the top.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
Down, well and based on his comments last, night you
Think mary have to Have provoll was the best friend
of the police. Department, he's, oh we've worked together where
we're busy doing, this and that we're going to hire
more police. Officers but you pointed out an excellent, point
and he has been very reactive as opposed to proactive
when it comes to. Policing what. Happens we Have Sarah
herringer's husband stabbed the death in their apartment and over

(02:16:32):
the rhine that through tremendous. Outrage that's when we found
out that, no they're not monitoring ankle bracelets out on
the world low And. Behold then of course you had
the Late july beat Down. Holly we all saw the
video And i've talked to her and had her on the.
Program you've met her and talked to.

Speaker 6 (02:16:45):
Her he was there last.

Speaker 8 (02:16:46):
Night she was.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
Good the mayor.

Speaker 6 (02:16:48):
Failed to talk with her last. Night we had ample
opportunity before and after to speak with multiple individuals in the,
room and he did not speak with any of those.
Victims die And Buy it on the front.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
Row last, night and we made it to the national
stage for that, incident which prompted him to do what
implement curfew enforcement at least pay lip service to it
in certain, neighborhoods improve policing in certain, neighborhoods and a
cry to hire more police. Officers all of this was
in reaction to the post national. Headlines what had he
done prior to, that, though is really What i'm, wondering

(02:17:21):
especially since he hired On Iris rowley as a very
well paid consultant who is nothing but an apparently an
agitator who actually interferes with police doing their.

Speaker 6 (02:17:31):
Work one thing they kept saying last night on the
other side is That corey doesn't know what he's. Doing
AND i came right back and, said you didn't get
the endorsement OF. FOP i got THE. FOP i think
they know what they're, doing and then you didn't actually
get this just came out that he didn't get the
endorsement from the fire department, either AND i believe that

(02:17:51):
they know what they're doing as. Well SO i think
the ultimate thing is that maybe after four years of
being in, office he doesn't know what he's. Doing and
we've got to bring to the table because not only
just these professionals of public, safety but we cannot forget the.
Victims the people that have been most affected are the
people like The Sarah, heringers The Rohnda, wins the mother

(02:18:13):
Of Krishanda. Win, oh you got to talk About holly
who got Beat she was one of the many people
that night that was trying to stop the. Violence she
wasn't trying to instigate, it and she gets beat, down
and that's unacceptable in a major city In. America and
so we can talk about the, stats the policy all we,
want but, ultimately if we fail to recognize the victims

(02:18:35):
and the people that have seen the consequences of these,
policies then we're forgetting what it's all.

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
About and one final topic that was addressed toward the,
END i guess you're a hell no on increasing the income,
tax although after have provol welcomes an increase in income,
tax apparently because he said need to bring in money
if you want to accomplish what we want to. Do
another red. Flag if you want to improve the desirability
of living in the city Of, cincinnati raising taxes is

(02:19:00):
not the right way to go from my, Perspective, corey your.

Speaker 6 (02:19:02):
Take, NOW i had another guest last. Night her name Was,
taniqua and she is actually a business, Owner black business
owner woman in the city and very. Successful but what
she told me was that when she was down on her,
luck she went through slum lord after slum, lord and
she was getting, abused she was getting taken advantage. Of

(02:19:23):
and this is her and her children that were in
terrible living, situations and all these slum lords were funded
by the. City, well then she buys her own property
and she's now a, homeowner and she's a renter now,
renter but she's a. Landlord and she's told me that
ever since she's done, this she has felt demonized or
basically felt like that she's guilty for being successful because

(02:19:47):
she has to pay into more, fees more, taxes more.
Everything so that's the system that we're under right, now
is that we incentivize, rennership we incentivize being reliant on the.
Government but if you want to have a successful, business
if you want to be a property, owner if you
want to own a single family home in the, city
then you are basically treated.

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
As the bad.

Speaker 6 (02:20:06):
Guy and what do you think those policies are going to.
Do the taxes have to come from. Somewhere the taxes
have to come from, business they have to come from,
property they have to come from. Income and the thing
is is that if the taxxes aren't coming from that
or even the earning, text people are going to stop
spending their money In. Cincinnati and then all of a,
sudden you're going to be left with a lot of
people that will rely on the government in, renting but

(02:20:30):
they're not going to be able to step out of,
that and you're going to leave the city worse and
worse and worse and more of a. Despicit they're going
to have less money on the, books and it's just
not going to do well for the future days Of.

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
Cincinnati Corek bowman sounds me like you have a good
recipe for success as mayor of The city Of. Cincinnati
it doesn't bother me a wit that you haven't held
political office. Before everybody starts somewhere you're surrounded by good.
PEOPLE i know you've got great ideas for who the
city manager might. Be hopefully you get A Steve gooden
and A Christopher smithman And Liz keating all with. You
there are, options there are our. Choices you can start

(02:21:03):
voting and you maybe should have already twenty five days
and eleven hours. Left Corey, Bowman you're always welcome here
on The Morning, show continued to wish for success for
you and your, campaign and another encouragement my listeners head
on over To coreybowman dot com to maybe help you.
Out take care of my. Friend have a wonderful. WEEKEND
i know we'll talk again real.

Speaker 6 (02:21:19):
Soon, brian thank you so, much having an amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
Weekend thanks. Brother hey fifty five fifty Five krsity talkstation