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Speaker 1 (00:03):
There it is woo hoo for Friday Eve. Thank you
Joe Strekker for acknowledging, sort of in a SoundBite fashion.
That is a four day weekend for me. Looking forward
to having a couple of days off. And I know
you're in good hands. Gary Joff Walker covers for me
tomorrow morning, and then you get Dan Carroll on Monday.
Hold on that pause thanks to the cough button. It's
five o'clock. Didn't realize what was going on in my

(00:24):
throat to you open your mouth and start talking. That's
reality for me and I love hearing from you. Maybe
you want to respond to Thank you, Joe respond to
the government opening. Yay, we're back on track five one, three, seven,
four nine, fifty eight hundred and eight two three talk
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the iHeart content we ever happened to be special Tech
Friday Dave Hatter Today, Wow, that is awesome. Thanks Joe
for lyning up Dave. Thanks Dave for doing it early Today.
User revives dead smart vacuum custom hardware Internet of things
devices Entering into the conversation again with Dave had a

(01:06):
bluetooth exposing millions of vehicles to remote code execution. That
sounds sinister. Plus artificial intelligence agents get office tasks wrong
about seventy percent of the time. So the human element
apparently is still necessary in certain cases, although more and
more these days we're learning were not necessary. Congressman Warren
Davidson seven to oh five with Congressman Davidson returns talk

(01:29):
about the shutdown being over, Now what do we do?
The Epstein files are coming out. I got a couple
of comments on that. Isn't it funny if you've seen
all the articles about all the documents that just came
out when they voted on the discharge petition, And it
was pointed out that, you know, just because the discharge
petition was voted on, it doesn't mean Donald Trump's got
ultimately signed in lot. It's got to go through the
Senate like any other piece of legislation. So okay, you're

(01:51):
going to force the vote and release in the Epstein files. Ultimately,
maybe it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't ultimately end up
in some legal mandate to release them. Where in the
hell did all the ex Epstein documents come from in
the last twenty four hours, Joe, have you noticed that Democrats,
you know, released like two documents suggesting Donald Trump at

(02:11):
least since spent some quiet time with one of the
victims who's already been identified as the All you think
is from the same person in the Russian dossier, the
Steele dossier, you know, but the Gumphrey girl, the one

(02:31):
that killed herself, had already been sworn and testified under
oath that Donald Trump was really nice and never laid
a hand on her. That is the now redacted documents
the Democrats have rolled out to suggest Donald Trump was
implicated in all this. And I was talking to my
wife about this last night. I said, I'm not worried

(02:52):
that there's really anything in there at all. And here's why,
because Donald Trump knows what he did and did not do,
and he said he never engaged any you know, untoward activities.
But he was friends with Epstein for a while. It's noted,
and it's been widely recognized that he booted Epstein out
and told him he no longer had privileges at his
club a long time. This is before Epstein got busted

(03:13):
for childborn or whatever. But the timeline reflects there was
this cutoff in activity. And so you're going back and
looking at these documents. They handpicked two of them to
leak to the public. And the person that they're pointing
to that apparently spent hours or a couple of hours
with Donald Trump alone or whatever the comment was. I mean,
I got the quote in here somewhere, but that's the

(03:36):
one who's already on record saying he didn't do anything.
And now that she's dead, I don't think you can
unring the bell of her sworn testimony. So there's no
real there there. But what are the twenty thousand documents?
And the Republicans leaked out? Huh? I thought we needed
some legislation to get this stuff out in the public. Anyway,

(03:56):
going back to my point about Trump, I mean, he
had said previously multiple times, nothing there, I didn't do anything.
I'm innocent, blah blah blah blah blah, And he used
to say on the campaign trail before he got elected
he wanted to release the documents. Now, if you knew
that you actually really did something, that there was some
culpability in your record related to Jeffrey Epstein. Would you

(04:20):
have been so well pointed in your statements about releasing
the documents and professing your innocence. I don't know. I've
never had been put in that position. But I don't
think the guy with the most attention in the world
on him, the guy that wants the highest office in
the land, ultimately got it. I can't imagine him going
out that far on a limb, knowing if there's something

(04:41):
in his background that's probably going to come out, Lord
knows what's in the documents, and not fully knowing what's
in those documents that you would well take such a
stand on it. So, which is really the struggle I
had with his reversal of position after getting elected, that well,
we're not going to release the Epstein document. So today
is finally, I mean, we didn't really have to wait
for the day to finally come to deal with the

(05:02):
discharge petition or any legislations might come out. The documents
are all coming out anyway, suggesting they were all sitting
on them. Congressman war Davidson, did you know they were
out there? Did you review them? Were you part of
the folks that apparently had access to all these documents? Ah?
Oh Lord Almighty Empower you some on ar tonight talked
about that last night, Donald Emil, the feature speaker. But

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they do this thing called Take twenty, and tonight's take
twenty Eric Conroy, and I had a special request from
my friend Steve, who proudly served his country as a
career officer in the military. Anyway, Steve, yes, yes, he
will be on the show today, Eric Conroy. He's running
against Congressman Greg Lansman. This is why peek Steve's curiosity,

(05:46):
because Steve's got a problem with Landsman is looking forward
to having him replaced, hopefully by elder high school grad
Eric Conroy, who well was with the CIA. He was
a decorator a Directorate of Operations, served as a case officer,
the agency's most prestigious role, managing clandestine operations in the
war and dealing with I guess operations in Europe should

(06:11):
be fascinating. To get a little glimpse of what is
going to be talking about at tonight's seminar, either show
up at three hundred Great Oaks drive at the Empower
Use seminar, or log in from the convenience to r
own hone at Empower Youoamerica dot org. So there's your
guest today. Oh, no, one more. This is going to
be fun. Thankfully, it's like a Friday. We're going to
end the show in a real happy note. I'm sorry

(06:32):
Jay Ratliffe is not going to be on at eight thirty.
It is Thursday. It's his traditional time. And please prayers
for Jay Ratliffe, who's going through therapy to deal with
his bell's palsy. Hopefully he'll get his speaking ability back
with the ground running, hopefully as early as next week.
But today we'll still have some fun at ay thirty.
Coming to Cincinnati. There's is a little feather in the
Cincinnati's cap the twenty twenty five US National Steinholding Championships.

(07:01):
Yes there is one of those. We get the finals
here in the city of Cincinnati. Joining the program at
eight thirty. Mike Kaisel, you know who those German guys
are on Facebook. He's one of them. Plus Brett ben Hoffman,
he's the executive director of the sincint Regional Sports Commission.
That will be at eight thirty. Should be fun in
games with that. Joej you ever participated one of the

(07:22):
steinholding competitions? Only when I'm drinking. It gets lighter and
lighter and lighter very quickly when you're drinking it. So yeah, anyhow,
at student observations from Barton Swain, I don't need to
dive into the entire op ed piece, but why Schumer

(07:43):
had to do it, And I thought this was brilliant
because I believe this all day long. So he talked
about the government shutdown, generally speaking, draw some parallels, tries
to figure out what's behind it. Maybe people are going
to blame Donald Trump. Maybe people are going to look
and blame Donald Chucky Schumer. But he said, count me
skeptical the likely premium increases. This is the the Chucky

(08:05):
Schumer falling on the sword to shut the government down
in the name of extending these premium increases or these
rather subsidies. So Barnes says, you know, count me skeptical.
The likely premium increase without subsidies are significant, but not
apocalyptic and certainly not worth the political risk of five
week shutdown. Are we seriously to believe that mister Schumer
and his party felt so strongly about pandemic year emergency

(08:30):
funding that they were willing to crash the US government
to extend it. He says, Come on, so why did
the Democrats do it? He asked. So from the beginning
of dispute, everyone seemed to have understood that Schumer's forced
the shutdown because he needed to show his states progressive
voters that he could take it to mister Trump and
so avoid a primary challenge from the left. Maybe AOC says,

(08:54):
the Senate Democrat colleagues went along with the shutdown for
a parallel reason. The whole quote was about Trump's authoritarianism,
close quote, wrote Esracline New York Times Monday, was about
showing their base and themselves they could fight back. That
said Jad Blanchard of Politico, also, who said Democrats achieved
their primary political objectives, showing the furious base that they

(09:17):
can actually work together effectively and are prepared to fight
with every tool in their arsenal. This is all for show.
And here's where he gets to the real point. And this,
I think is the same thing. While the Democrats were
pulling their hair out over Doge going after USAID, you know,
the USAID program that funds transgender movements in Zimbabwe or whatever.

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Pick your favorite goofy program that you worked to pay for.
And why were the Democrats screaming out loud about those
cuts of those programs. Many of the ones that came
out were totally indefensible, so Martin Swain. But what or
who is that base to which Messrs Client and Blanchard

(10:02):
refer poke around, you'll find out it consists mainly of
cash flesh, foundations, unions, and activist groups. The American Civilities Union,
the Sunrise Movement and other environmental and climate groups. Planned
Parenthood and other abortion rights outfits. An array of immigrant

(10:22):
rights organizations, some of them so radical as to be
almost insurrectionists, the American Federation of Teachers, a national education association,
the Southern Poverty Law Center, Black Lives Matter and other
racial justice organizations, the Human Rights Campaign and a sort
of LGBTQ activist groups. Scores of foreign connected, Palestinian rights

(10:43):
and otherwise anti Zionist organizations, the George Soros funded network
known as the Open Society Foundations, and on and on
those groups impacted by the actions of the Republicans in Congress.
And of course, what did Schumer and the Democrats appealing
to their work base want to do in terms of

(11:05):
getting the government back open one point five trillion dollars
in additional spending. Plus we're getting excising from the one
big beautiful bill. Some of the cash vehicles that these
organizations utilize to get an American taxpayer dollars doc taxpayer
dollars that are directed there by the Democrats who fund
these leftists crazy organizations. But the other point on this,

(11:28):
and this is an interesting and excellent observation. He says,
this ganglion has no counterpart on the right. All of
these groups who are supportive of these leftist crazy causes.
He says, there's nothing like the right doesn't have anything
like this organization, Heritage Foundation, Coke Network, Turning Point USA,
have nothing like the influence over elected Republicans that left

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wing nonprofits have over Democrat colleagues. This is Harry Reid
when he, when he led the Senate Democrats in the
twenty tens, delivered many a diet about the Koch brothers
supposed hold on the Republican Party. Twenty sixteen, York's Jane
Mayer published a fat book making the same allegation. Even
the GOPED drifted away from the Koch's libertarian doctrines. The

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word for what mister Reed and Ms Mayor engaged in
is projection, same sort of projection that led Senator Sheldon White,
House Democrat wrote Island to indulgent a delusion that the
federalist society manipulates American society by some furative scheme of

(12:32):
money and influence. Why shouldn't he think so? That's the
way things work in his world. Otherwise, smart liberals have
for decades assumed that the gun lobby achieved its goals
by spending and covert bullying. In fact, gun groups, which
contrary to liberal myth, spend less on lobbying than some

(12:53):
other industries, only had power because millions of Americans backed
their cause. You voluntarily reached into your pocket and you
funded the NRI for the work they did, the gun
training programs, the fight that they fought for the Second Amendment.
They didn't have multi billionaire donors to the extent like
Soros is funding these leftist organizations and any pivots over

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which is pointedly not true of the radical groups currently
pushing around Democratic lawmakers. Here's what I love about it.
Ordinary Democratic voters weren't clamoring for Schumer to shut of
the government, just as they weren't outraged when he chose
to keep it open in March. Go further back, rank
and file Democrats didn't tell the Biden administration to keep

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the southern border wide open for three years. They didn't
threaten to burn down the twenty twenty four Democratic Convention
because the president more or less took Israel's side against
Hamas Oh. No, nor did they require liberal politicians to
give squishy non answers to questions about men playing in
women's sports. These demands issued from progressive nonprofits led by

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ideologus and staffed by young, busybodies. Liberal politicos frequently accused
of Republicans as slavishly catering to the whims of mister Trump.
There is some truth to that charge, but Trump will
leave office in three years. Progressive nonprofits aren't going anywhere.
There's the source of their power and fury, loud, squeaky,

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really well organized so called non governmental organization, so called nonprofits.
Probably every one of the members of their boards make
hundreds of thousands of dollars in salaries. But they're peddling
this Marxist, leftist nonsense and it's being done on your back, thankfully.
And this is where the outrage from the Dems comes.
From those days may be over. Let's excise that kind

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of expenditure from the federal budget. Make them fend for themselves.
How many people are going to write a check to
the LGBTQ plus organization that wants some forty five year
old man's genitalia because he says he's a gal floating
around the locker room with your twelve year old girl
five twenty Right now, if you five KRC, the talk
stay should be right back. This is fifty five KRC

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and iHeartRadio Haby FRIDAYE five want three seven four nine
fifty two three pound five fifty on eight and T phones.
Let's see here, it's a City of Cincinnati voter devance
curve curfew for the Coreyville area. I'm just kind of
chuckling over this. I mean, I think it's a terrible thing.
We've got crime, we have concentrated crimes in certain areas
around town, and they're trying to struggle with dealing with

(15:31):
this with these curfews. And I guess we have a
new two block curfew.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Curfew ordinance was in the Sinsinne Council Public Safety and
Governance meeting the other day and they voted out of committing,
and today they're supposed to a vote on a vote
on the new curfew area, which is again a two
block radius according to you See Police chefl. We had Isaac,

(16:00):
former PEP of the Insaint Police Department for him. He's
up with the uc now, he said. From talking to
both CPD and UCPD officers, they have mentioned that they're
seeing a larger than normal amount of juveniles mixed into
the crowd. These are later evening hours around short Vine
in Coryville, said they've reported teens young as fourteen to
fifteen years old in the area. Mom and dad or
either of you, where in the hell are you guardians

(16:22):
whires your kid out there in the middle of the night. Anyway,
So the rules on Shortvine now proposed. They're going to
vote on this proposal today, probably will pass. The same
as the special curfew district in place in downtown and
parts of over the Ride. So anyone under eighteen not
allowed in the area during the specified time unless a
company by an adult over the age of twenty one.

(16:44):
And there of course exceptions of this we've talked about before,
like a miner who's exercising First Amendment rights protected by
the US Constitution, one of many carve outs. Anyway, according
to the ordinance, tees the teams are going to be
asked to go home. If they refuse take to a
curfew center in the West End, minor could be given
a closed referral, which is not a citation or criminal charge,

(17:05):
it's a warning. The new proposed short Vine curfew two
blocks wide between Daniel Street and Easy East Cory Street
two blocks now. I mentioned yesterday I had an agreement
with Mark Jeffries on a point, and I have further
agreement on a comedy made yesterday speaking with WVX you.

(17:26):
I believe I'll give them credit because that's whose article
I'm reporting. Part of my question is, okay, we solve
these two blocks. Are they just gonna go over to Calhoun.
Are they gonna go up to Clifton Gaslight? Are these
kids gonna gather the North Side or another neighborhood. It's

(17:46):
just a whack a mole game where okay, we solve
this and then we're gonna go somewhere else, which was
our initial concern with the curfew downtown, that they would
just go to another neighborhood. And it looks like that's happening,
Yeph the nail on the head there, Mark, So you
secured two blocks, they move fifteen feet away from that

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two block corridor and they're no longer subject to the curfew.
That sound right. Feel free to chime in other local
stories coming up at bottom of the hour, or it
be Tom will call. Don't know it's five twenty six
right now if you five krsit the talk station fifty
five KRC John special edition of Tech Friday with Dave Hatter.
It's Tech Thursday with Dave Hatter. Since it won't be

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Intomorrowgaangs and Gary Jeff Walker's covering for me Dan Carroll
on Monday, and to the phones will go. Tom's on
the line, Tom, welcome back. My friend's always going to
hear from you.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Apologies to those people that don't want to hear from
me yet. Tom called in, Oh well you'll.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Be all right, so I don't mind it.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
You know that it is open phone lines on the
fifty five krsee morning show. That you choose to exercise
your right as every caller has to go for an
open phone bank and grab one of the lines. That's
your prerogative, and I'm happy to entertain the conversation we
have because I always enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Tom, that is definitely a very enjoyable, a very enjoyable
part of your show.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Too.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Jeez, to touch on the you don't have a cost
on to touch it? Yeah, to touch on the curfew
thing real quick. It sounds like what Dean Warmer did
an animal house. Oh, they're on probation now, they're on
double secret probation. Like whoop do you do? What do
you these people when they break the law, they need consequences,
not another law that they're going to break anyway. I mean,

(19:33):
it doesn't make any sense, but that's that's how democrats
do think. Oh let's just make another law.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Well pause for a cause for a moment. Does it
really even have any teeth if you're trying to change
something for the deterrence effect, it gives officers the opportunity
to get rid of the underage kids from the area.
But they're not suffering any penalty. They're just either told
to go home and if they agree to do that,
they're let go. They're taking to a detention center where
they wait around for mom or dad or someone to

(20:00):
pick them up, or they're issued this warning it's not
a citation, it's merely a warning. So you know, once
word gets out on that and you're contemplating, what is
it worth me going up the short Vine and Coryville
and hanging out with the older people and getting into trouble? Well,
first off, what's the likelihood they're gonna catch me? Second
of all, even if they do, what's the big deal?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Right? All I got to do is say I'm going home,
and I walked to block and I'm good. Yeah. I mean,
like you said, there's no teeth to it. It's just words, words, words, wars, streats, streats, stress,
wors nothing. I mean, well, I mean they I don't know,
it's it's crap. The main reason I called in is
because you touched on the subject of how these how

(20:39):
these left wing groups stay afloat with our money, and
that's the thing I wanted to key on. Yeah, people
who are listening. People if you're in a union, and
I could speak to this because I've been in a
union for twenty eight years now, and if I'm gonna
do what I'm doing, I'd rather be in a union
than not. I'd make more money. Uh, But you know,
we have fride benefit. It's and I got health and

(21:01):
welfare benefits. It's not coming out of my check. It's
something that my employer pays into a fund on my behalf.
It is pre tax or not. It's not even I
don't even see it on my paycheck. I get statements monthly,
so they they somebody, some group of people makes a
decision on how much that is. And I you know,
it's it's not cheap. It's not like it's it's, Oh,

(21:25):
we get a really great deal. Because there's five thousand
carpenters in the area. We're getting a sweet deal. Now
we're not. Now it might be better than some of
these Obamacare plans, sure, but it's that's a lot of money.
I mean it is. I think we're up to U
thirteen dollars a month premium something like that. And because

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we're not writing a check for it, Oh, it's I
guess it's no big deal. Well, it's still your money.
It's still part of your your wage packet's so if
you don't agree with what's going on with your money,
what you gonna do about it? You're just gonna turn
your head and go, I don't care. It's not coming
out of punch check or you know what can you

(22:07):
do about it? Well, you can get involved in the
union and you could become one of these people that
makes these decisions and maybe do something about it. The
other thing you can do is is deal with how
you vote. If you continue to vote for Democrats, you're
going to continue to get this craft because money is
what makes the wakes everything go. And so they're getting

(22:28):
their money from somewhere and they're taking it from you.
They're they're taking it from you. They're they're not like
asking you for it, and depending on on donations, they're
taking your money. And then they're getting the even more
money because they're getting your alleged representatives to give them

(22:48):
even more money out of the federal Conference, out of
your taxes. Your money is being used to further these causes.
And if you're not happy about it, do something about it.
Don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Brian, have a
great time off.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Thank you, sir, I truly appreciate it. Yeah, there's yet
another op ed in the sense I enquire for this
one from Tracy Gragston, a little upset Bonhill resident. And
there you go, and it's the very point that he
made that Tracy Gragston is making in this Bonhill's election
ballot was the last real bait and switch bond Hill

(23:24):
homeowners played themselves. Tracy writes, that was my thought after
reading the October twenty sixth opinion piece titled city must
pull support from bond Hill Bayton Switch. Plan points out
the November fourth election results in bond Hill, over eighty
five percent of bond Hill voters re elected have to

(23:45):
have perv all the eight incumbent members of the council
and a Democrat who doesn't have any sort of background,
but one Democrats Tracy Gragston, yet another bond Hill resident
asking the million dollar question is why would city hall
withdraw it support for the develop near the village? Is
the daybreak? When Bonhill just re elected most of the
city council members who supported the deal. Just a week ago,

(24:06):
Bonhill voted for the city leadership that gave them a
beaten switched development near the village is a daybreak. It
defies logic to ask city called to draw a city
Hall to drop support for any deal in your neighborhood
when your neighborhood just re elected the politicians who shoved
the deal you didn't want down in your throat. There's
more to it. You can find it yourself. Cincinnati dot
com yeap Elections have consequences doing the same thing over

(24:27):
and over again expecting a different result. The actual definition
of stupidity. There you go, Stacker stupid coming up. Although
I feel like I just stuck my toe in it.
USA's premium foam the only way to go. It's the
highest forty one fifty about krcdtalk station. Happy Friday Eve.
So I'm not going to be here to marro Joe
Strecker of course, does a lot of the stack of
stupid stories Friday morning to deal a lot of crazy

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people who are performing criminal acts naked as this tradition,
and we have quite a few of those here this morning. However,
in honor of iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, I
put one on the top. This guy is worthy of
the award. A man described as a British businessman, Solomon
if a car anyway, Salomon thirty seven years old, traveling

(25:13):
first class from London Heathrow Heathrow to Lore with with
his three children and one of his wives. We go
back to February of twenty twenty three when this incident happened.
Apparently he was drinking champagne and he also got up
and helped himself to ice from the on board bar.
They told him to return to his seat. The crew
member did, but when he was told to stop, the

(25:34):
defendant became irate. This, according to the court, defendant became
irate started a film cabin crew with his phone, telling them,
don't tell me what to do, you b.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Word, Keep your stupid mouth shut.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Hold on, Jay, it gets worse. So of course the staff,
a lord of the pilot seatbelt signs turned on and
he told him to sit down. Court to the court documents,
as well as yes, there are video footage, there is
video footage of this ific. Car guy started screaming abusive
language and threatening the senior flight attendant, a woman named
Angie Walsh, telling Walsh Walsh rather that she would be

(26:12):
dragged from her hotel room and in his words, gang
raped and set on fire.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Keep your stupid mouth shut.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
And in addition to that, he threatened to blow up
the hotel floor where the cabin crew were supposed to
stay when they got to Pakistan. Much as I suppose
the destination the captain even considered diverting the flight to
Turkey because this became so volatile. Ms Walsh, who was
a thirty seven year veteran in the airline, has suffered
some significant emotional problems with that and she apparently had

(26:43):
to take fourteen months off in spite of the fact.
He said, he oh, I'm strong, I'm brave, happy stewardess
and love my job, but this incident has broken me.
So psychological impact. So this clown pleaded guilty to threats
to kill and racially aggravated harassment in court, with the
court hearing that he had already had six previous convictions

(27:05):
for fifteen other offenses, including common assault and drunken driving.
So in August of this year, the court sentenced him
to fifteen months in jail, which prompted one of the
one of the MPs, a guy elected a capacity named
Chris Philip. He referred the case to the Attorney General

(27:25):
on what is called the United Kingdom's unduly lenient sentencing scheme.
Maybe we need one of these here. At the time
one of these guys, two wives posted a message pleading
to well cut her husband a break. Mental health is
not a joke. Before judging, try to understanding, be kind,

(27:47):
be kind of the guy who threatened to have this
woman gang raped and burn a hotel down. Anyway. Following
the review the Court of Appeals after it was referred
over to this special you didn't sentence him to enough
time court, they increase this jail time to four years
and three months, with the Solicitor General saying it better

(28:09):
reflected the gravity and sustained nature of his threats and
the lasting harm it caused. Walsh, Nice job.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Perios, the biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies,
There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached the top,
the pinnacle of doue them. Good going, Douce, Your.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Dreams have come true, while his wives breakout in the
chorus of stand by your man, or in their case,
stand by our man. Five forty five fifty five KRC
DE talk Station. I want to mention box station by
fifty to fifty five cars Detalk Station, Happy Friday Eve. Yeah,

(28:56):
I got a couple more stack of stupid stories of callers.
Hold on a moment here prioritization, especially since I'm now
in full vacation mode, and notwithstanding in the fact that
I have a few hours ahead of me on the
morning show. Hope you forgive me for that, trying to
have a little bit of fun, getting that that four
day weekend mode as a fast approach to Thanksgiving, one
of my favorite, my favorite holiday. And we got a
man left bleeding and screaming in the street. This after

(29:18):
his jealous mistress sliced off his penis while they were
having sex. Dow, what the hell, following which the woman
said she was satisfied and wanted to teach him a lesson, Windy.
I know these are poor relationship choices, much like that
last one. Indeed, Windy Cynthia, who is twenty eight, confessed

(29:41):
to cutting off her married lover, a guy named Carcelon
who Tommy's genitals, in a fit of jealousy. This is
in Indonesia. A couple began dating in early twenty nineteen.
Carsilian married another woman late twenty nineteen. Here's the order
of things, you see, and he continued to affare with

(30:03):
this Windy woman who knew about the marriage. The guy
said he finally he financially supported Wendy, giving her some
rupees every month, but when the payments started to dwindle
while the guy bought a new motorcycle for his legal wife.
This windy woman allegedly plotted the attack jealous after the
legal wife posted about the new motorcycle on social media.

(30:25):
Lured Carsilian to a secluded field in Bandar Lumpung, Sumatra,
October nineteenth. She allegedly used a penknife from her bag
to cut off his well apparently very alert penis while
they were having sex.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Phrasing.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
He has then said to have fled naked into the
city streets, bleeding and screaming. Locals helped him out took
him to a hospital. Surgeon's managed to reattach his unit.
Wendy allegedly threw the penknife away went home before police
showed up and arrested her. Later, when the confessor the
crime at a press conference, she said quote, I felt
a little regret for what I did, but mostly satisfaction.

(31:05):
I'm finally satisfied. She accused them of cheating on both
her and his wife with other women and which caused
her heartbreaking anger. She went on to say she did
it to teach him a lesson, adding our relationship was
like husband and wife, but he kept lying and cheating
and I was angry disappointed. Yeah, you walked into it,
just walk away. Indeed, here's a quick one from Baton Rouge.

(31:29):
Rest warrant been issued for a man who was allegedly
sexually gratifying himself on a parking lot of a Baton
Rouge store. Warret says fortys I know got in a
penalty box. Joe forty three year old Kevin Mormon sitting
naked in his truck outside the Baby Gap on Corporate Boulevard,
Please said Mormons.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Yes, what hell?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
He stared at a woman while committing this indecent act.
The woman ran back inside of the store, caught the
truck's license plate before it left. He was booked on
a felony obscenity charge. Of course he was. And finally,
before I get to Pat Douglas County Sheriff's office asking
for public selp to find out more about a naked
guy that was taken into a custody accord to the
police Department from Omaha's report, neighbors reporting a naked guy

(32:11):
roaming in the area of one hundred and forty streets
one hundred and forty fourth and Ida knocking on doors
debut he's able to find a guy, calling him uncooperative.
They used the fingerprints kinda to identify him. He was
taken a local hospital for evaluation. Corner to the post,
there is no ongoing threat to the public. They want
to know if you encountered a naked guy to please
let them know about it. Apparently naked guy showing up

(32:34):
in a lot of places in Omaha, Nebraska. Pat, let's do
what Pat's got this morning. Pat, thanks for indulging me
on that. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (32:41):
Oh, Brian, that's enough. I gotta tell you when I
heard about Caloun Street, I lived right next door to
the Saint George's School, and I mean we walked everywhere,
and we all had.

Speaker 10 (33:01):
A b cop.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
The guy that would walk the neighborhood his name was Tom,
and I invited him even to my wedding Wow and
as we you know, as kids, my husband and I
we walked everywhere.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Nobody had cars, of course, and.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Tat wait a second, hold on, the world's a completely
different place. I used to walk with my sister down
Devil's Backbone. People know about Devil's Backbone back when I
mean there are no sidewalks, know nothing of Whiney Road.
Where people sped a mile and a half to two
miles to walk down to the King quick. You think
some parents will let their eight, you know, six seven
year old kid do that. Maybe I was even younger.
So yeah, we all recognize the world's a much more

(33:40):
dangerous place than it used to be.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
But I just it just blows my mind. I mean,
I worked at Good sam after school part time and
we would walk down Clifton Avenue from Hughes and Yeah,
it's just a shame that the neighborhood is this literally
calm to pop.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, it's a shame that parents don't care about where
their children are. It's a shame that children we are
disobedient to have no morals and ethics. It's a compound problem.
It keeps sending growing more and more each year, and
I look to the generation above to blame. A kid
needs a structured environment and responsibility needs to be taught
those specific things, and there's got to be some accountability
for what they do. And if you're not providing that foundation,

(34:22):
you're gonna have unruly kids. A lot of people kicked
up and put their feet up and ignored the idea
of parenting of what goes along with it and allow
these children to run am up and become well moral less.
So yeah, a lot of them, and a lot of
neighborhoods you used to be able to walk in are
a lot more dangerous than they used to be. The
world is an ever changing place, so I'm not quite
sure where you're going with this, pat, unless you've got

(34:42):
a suggestion for how to properly engage in law enforcement. Yeah,
I agree with you. It's a shame. Five fifty six
fifty five care c DE Talk Station Tech Friday, Tech
Thursday with Dave had Or coming up the bottom of
the next hour. More to talk about between now and then.
I certainly would love to hear from you. I've got
a comment, feel free to call so I like to
call it, and a reminder. I will be off tomorrow
and Monday, looking forward to a four day weekend. Exhale

(35:05):
will lax certainly sleep in tomorrow. Gary Jeff Walker is
going to take over the helm, and I know you're
in good hands with Gary Jeff Dan Carroll and thanks
to him and Gary Jeff Dan Carroll covering for me
on Monday. I'll be back on Tuesday, hopefully refreshed. Five
one three, seven, four, nine fifty eight two three taco
with pound five fifty on eight and t phones. Before
I jump over to the phones, got one collar online
will remind you comeing to the bottom of this hour
special edition and a Tech Friday Tech Thursday Dave Hatter.

(35:29):
Today we'll be talking about user reviving dead smart vacuum
with custom hardware, Internet of Things Bluetooth, exposing millions of
vehicles to remote code execution. That's kind of scary if
it is what I think it is. That's why we
have Dave to explain what it actually is. Artificial intelligence
agents getting office tasks wrong, thankfully for you and me,

(35:52):
at least for the time being, seventy percent of the time.
So you can't rely on AI completely. You need a
human element in there to get things accurately. Fast forward
one seven five with Congressman Warren Davidson. Now they ask
the shutdown is over. Donald Trump signed the legislation into law,
and of course dove into a little bit of details
on why exactly there was a shutdown at the last
hour with it, with the astute observation of Barton Swain,

(36:14):
it was the NGOs out there in the world, all
these leftist organizations that are funded by government were the
ones that were pestering the Democrats to keep this government
shut down because they're stopping the flow of money. And
the connected point on that was he used it by
way of illustration to contrast the reason the NRA, as
evil as you think it may be, is even a thing.

(36:35):
They don't wield that much power, but their power, to
the extent they've got it, to the extent they engage
in lobbying, which they do, all comes from people who
make voluntary contributions, regular run of the mill folks like
you or me who join it to support the Second Amendment,
and the work that they do, which includes a lot
of training work. I mean, it's a safety organization, not
just this militant right wing gun organization whatever. But all

(36:59):
these left organizations, if they're not funded by multi billionaires,
they're funded by you through things like USAID. And there's
the reason for the breakdown. They don't have a funding
source other than evil politicians who think it's aoka for
them to route your taxpayer dollars into these crazy organizations.
So there's that. Maybe we'll see what Congressman David has

(37:20):
to say about Davidson has to say about that empower
unnied Eric Conroy. He is running against Greg Landsman. He's
a former CIA operative and he's doing the Empowered seminar.
They take twenty chunk of the seminar that takes place
tonight at seven pm and sounds like a really cool guy.
And I am going to ask him because I keep

(37:40):
meaning to ask a CIA person. Did the CIA get
paid during the shutdown?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
My my initiory action is I bet they did. No
one ever mentions the CIA employee. Should we feel sorry
for him during the shutdown? I know we felt sorry
for a lot of other folks.

Speaker 10 (37:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So that'll take place to day doh five and then
coming to Cincinnati repaired Cincinnati lands on the global map
with the twenty twenty five US National Steinholding Championships eight
thirty with Mike Kisel, one of the guys from those
German Guys on Facebook. Mike's one on the program before
he'll be joined by Ben Huffman, who's the executive director
of the Cincinni Regional Sports Commission, to talk about how

(38:17):
great this Steinholding Championship is going to be. Now, without
further ado, jump back over the phones got Bobby on
the line. Bobby, welcome to the Morning Show. Good to
hear from you.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Good morning, my brother.

Speaker 11 (38:29):
Hey, it's a happy handicap day today.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (38:35):
With the shutdown and the curfew change and everything, we're
putting a handicap shooting at three and a half of
the day.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Can you can you place a wager on one of
the sports bet sites for that?

Speaker 12 (38:48):
Bobby, Well, it's an underground sports betting games. Ok, we
got you know, but we're putting it at three and
a half this weekend on the shooting, So suggest.

Speaker 11 (39:00):
To take the over even though we got to shut
down and the curfew changing and everything, but we got
a ball game this weekend, so we're hoping to put
it three and a half over all.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Right, the first rule of betting on shootings is you
don't talk about betting on shootings. It's an underground operation, Bobby,
not I supposed to let people know that that's going
on out there.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Does the slice of the gambling revenue go to support
the the Ohio Public Schools.

Speaker 11 (39:29):
Charity?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Bobby, thank you man. You're gonna do your tagline faith, Family, Flag, firearm,
Freedom and three and a half.

Speaker 11 (39:41):
When you got those you always got freedom and three
and over.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Three and a half.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well, I don't know if I if I'm wishing you
luck on the accuracy, then does that mean I'm wishing
for people to get shot. I don't want to go
down that road. Bobby, you deal with your own.

Speaker 11 (39:56):
We don't want it, we don't want it to happen.
We just got to clean the city up. But you
know you got I have a little bit of fun.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Then, well it is. It is out of your hands.
It's something you have zero control over, so why not
turn it into a sporting activity. Thanks Bobby, appreciate the
high level of comedy going on this morning. CJ, your
next CJ, Welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for calling.

Speaker 13 (40:17):
Good morning to you. You know, I'm I was reading
a lot about this stuff yesterday, with this Epstein Trump stuff.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Oh yeah, and I'm not going to say.

Speaker 13 (40:24):
Trump's been a perfect man, but that email yesterday was really, really,
and I could say really about fifteen more times deceiving
because the Democrats and the press went along with it
and redacted names out of it.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Virginia.

Speaker 13 (40:39):
That has been out for a number of years, yes, unredacted,
and that email.

Speaker 14 (40:44):
Has been out.

Speaker 13 (40:45):
We know who the victim is. And guess who wrote
a book saying that Donald Trump was the was not
involved and was did.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Everything to try to help her.

Speaker 15 (40:56):
Was a person's name.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Who was redacted Virginia government.

Speaker 15 (40:58):
It's such mouth.

Speaker 13 (41:00):
Of the press and of the Democrats in order to
do this just to get a story. And I still
think that there's a possibility you do see Trump's name
in some pretty in some stuff that we don't want
to know about. But on this particular story, if you
want to create division and really get everybody thinking, you
know what, we're going to take our own side and

(41:21):
not listen to anybody else, this is a perfect way
to start it.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
It is.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
But to the extent you take the bait and run
with it, then you're ignoring the fact that Virginia Guphrey
is the one who is in the redacted emails that
the Democrats are claiming prove Donald Trump was engaged in
some sort of you know, I guess illicted activity. Not
just quite sure what they're saying, but they certainly are
suggesting it. Virginia Gufhrey was previously exposed in these emails
produced unredacted form. She was deposed on it. She did

(41:48):
write a book, but we have her sworn testimony saying
that Donald Trump didn't do a damn thing and was,
in fact a really nice guy. So yeah, and to
your point, ot CJ, if there were any better documents,
if there were documents that had even more salacious suggestions,
if not proof, that Donald Trump was engaged in some
untoward activity in connection with Epstein, don't you think they

(42:10):
would have released those documents as opposed to this sketchy
one with the now redicted Virginia Guffrey as the victim
who already pointed out that Trump was a nice guy
and didn't touch her. Wouldn't you go for the cream
of the crop? In other words, CJ? Right, so.

Speaker 13 (42:27):
With you on that, And it's really shows how the
press really is no longer a press, but just a
talking point for one side of the political spectrum.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, but the counterpress to all of this, and remember
the mainstream media wields less and less control and dominance
in every day that ticks by. This was met with
an immediate response along the lines of what we're talking
about you want to be why don't you provide some context?
You know, Dan Well, who victim, the capital victa the
victim is it's guphery. Why don't you look at her

(43:01):
real testimony? Why don't you look at the words out
of her mouth? Why don't you read the books she wrote?
Because that provides far more context and accuracy about her
connection with Trump than any suggestion from an email exchange
between Epstein and his well, his what do you call
Geslaine Maxwell? Anyway? Is madam?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Close enough. Yeah, you're gonna be what are you gonna believe?
You're gonna read into something between those two text exchange
years after the factor. Are you gonna read the actual
words that came out of the victim and her mouth,
her book and her testimony. I'm going with the latter.
It makes much more sense. It's far more credible, and
it's actually the real words that she used.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
C J.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Good point, My friend, appreciate it. You see it. Everybody
else that will is willing to take the time sees
that there's no there there And again to my point previously,
Donald Trump said over and over again years ago and
when he promised to release the documents that he wanted
them released, he knows better than anybody what he did,

(44:06):
Like I said, if he knew something in his background
was terrible, and that would be terrible for him if
it got out. I doubt he would have taken such
a strong stance in connection with this prior to being
sworn into presidency when he suddenly changed his mind about
releasing the documents. That's what always bothered me. Six fifteen
fifty five krs DE Talk Station Cover Sincy, thirty five
KRSIT detalk Station, Happy Friday, Eve Tech Friday with Dave

(44:29):
had Her in an early day Tech Thursday. Coming up
bottom of the hour after this segment, and thank you
Joe Strecker, who I always call him Internet research Guru.
An answer to my question, Yes, you can vote on
things like number of shootings in a given jurisdiction. You
can literally vote on anything. And these are private sites.
They are not regulated sites. But if you want to
get a payoff because you're able to name Times person

(44:50):
of the Year for twenty twenty five, for example, they
give you two choices. You get to choose from one,
and then there's the you know, the statistics Jensen or
artificial intelligence in that particular case. I don't even know
who Jensen Wang is, but I presume an AI kind
of guy. Anyway, highest temperature in New York City, takes
photos of the parking lot. Joe, is that what it

(45:10):
is is that you're going full on caddyshack on that
one nice highest tempered to New York City today. You
can vote on that one as well. So I suppose, Bobby,
if you want to set up one of these, feel
free to do so. Frightening reality going on out there.
But apparently Joe said they do pay off. It's kind

(45:30):
of like paying into an insurance premium pool. You know,
the money you pay insurance premium goes to cover claims.
So if you want to vote on the Kansas City
or Philadelphia, you can do that right there. Thirty two
million dollars in the pile. That's just so the tech
world we live in today. All right, back to the conversation.

(45:51):
Virginia Guffrey. We know she's the one who's been identifying
in the email with Democrats. Know that when the issue
the email redacted, they want to make you think Donald
Trump is engaging some shenanigans with her Q and A.
Guffrey asked specific questions about Donald Trump during the deposition
November twenty sixteen as part of her lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell.

(46:12):
You remember that she went to jail. She's still in jail,
all right. What's inaccurate about the last statement on that page, Guphrey,
Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffreys. That
part is true. He didn't partake in any of any
sex with any of us, but he flirted with me.
It's true that he didn't partake in any sex with us,

(46:34):
but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald
Trump never flirted with me. The next sentence is he'd
laugh and tell Jeffrey, you've got the life close quote.
I never said that to her. Question from the lawyer,
when you say he didn't partake in any sex with
any of us, who is us? Virginia Guffrey's response. Girls

(46:59):
Just then he terjet, how do you know who Donald
Trump had sex with? Guphery Oh. I didn't physically see
him have sex with any of the girls, So I
can't say who he had sex with in his whole
life or not. But I just know it wasn't with
me when I was with other girls. Question, and who
were the other girls that you're with when Donald Trump's presence?
Guffery none there pause. I worked for Donald Trump, and

(47:23):
I met him probably a few times. Question when have
you met him? Her answer at mar A Lago. My
dad and him. I wouldn't say they were friends, but
my dad knew him and they would talk all the time,
well not all the time, but when they saw each other.
Question have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey
Epstein's presence with another? Her answer, no, What is your

(47:44):
basis for your statement? Donald Trump is a good friend
of Jeffreys? Her response, Jeffrey told me that Donald Trump
was a good friend of his. Or Jeffrey told me
Donald Trump is a good friend of his. Question but
you never observed them together? Her response, No that I
can actually remember. I mean not off the top of
my head. No, when did Donald Trump flirt with you?

(48:06):
Her response, He didn't. That's what's inaccurate. Again, he's got
the statements from the prior testimony. He's reading them to her.
So she flagged that as an inaccurate statement. He did
not flirt with her, He did not have sex with her.
She said this repeatedly. Did you ever see Donald Trump
at Jeffreys' home? Her response, not that I can remember.

(48:26):
So I never flirted with her. I had relations with
Virginia Guffrey. She never saw Trump at Epstein's presence or
at his residence. She never saw Trump or met with
Trump outside mar A Lago, and certainly not at Epstein's home.
So what's the point of releasing these two documents and
redacting her name when it was widely known it was
her making these statements. I'll leave that to you. You
can talk with your Democrat friends about that. Anything they

(48:48):
can do to try to undermine Donald Trump, they're going
to do it, whether it makes them look really, really,
really stupid or not. Six twenty five, Tech Thursday with
Dave had her coming up next First share Factor Talkdation. Ooh,
what's that music? That's bumper music, suggesting it's Friday morning,
Time for Tech Friday with day Patter. No, it's not,
but I'm off tomorrow. So Joe and Dave got together

(49:08):
and decided to do an early edition. We're going to
call it tech Thursday, brought to you still by Intrust.
It final on line at interrust dot com, where Dave
and the crew are there to help you and your
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If you have computers and I know you do. They're
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are the best in the business. Dave, thanks you so

(49:30):
much for doing the segment early. I love this segment,
so I'm glad we could do it today.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, my pleasure, Brian, and well we could fit it
in h phrasy.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
This is this first one is a really revealing I
find it comical on some levels, but it is a
very revealing article which goes back to your whole criticism
of Internet of things regarding, in this case, a smart vacuum.
Tell my listeners about what the manufacturer did after this guy,
this smart man got in touch with his smart device
and kind of tinkered around a little bit with it.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, it's a crazy story, and it's just one of
the many reasons why I'm constantly warning folks about so
called smart devices aka the Internet of things. You know,
it's not only a privacy and security dumpster fire. It
really gets to the heart of digital rights management. And
I think we've talked about this over the years, you know,
with people like John Deere, telling you that you can't
fix your own tractor and that sort of thing. You know,

(50:23):
it gets to this idea of who really owns this
stuff once it has sulfware in it and it can
be remotely controlled. So in this particular case, this guy
was a fairly technical he bought and I'm surprised despite
the nature of his technical background, he would buy something
like this. But he bought an I life ale even
smart vacuum think ruma for people that know what a

(50:44):
rouma is. And what he found after doing some digging,
was that it was sending a lot of information back
to the company that made it. Now, that in and
of itself is not necessarily a bad thing, but when
he started looking into the data was sending back, like,
you know, it mapped his house, which I get, it's
got to know where it's going, but it was sending

(51:05):
all kinds of other data back. And he said, you know,
I don't know that I really appreciate all of this
data that it's sending back. And you know, Brian, I've
talked about this so many times with you, and just
in general, if you buy something like this and you
read all the terms of service and the privacy policy,
and all that stuff, which is usually like an eighty
page confuse a believe that no one can understand. I
would argue on purpose then, and you still decide to

(51:30):
proceed when you understand what it's doing, how it's doing it,
the data it's collecting, who that can be sold to,
et cetera. Okay, fine, you have fully informed consent. But
in most cases that stuff is very deep down inside there.
You don't understand any of that, and you know ultimately
you sign up for these things, right and it starts
sucking up all kinds of data. That's one of the
reasons why these things are often inexpensive. They make more

(51:53):
money in the long run off the data they can
collect from you, your environment, your family, et cetera, than
they do from the device itself. So he decided to
basically shut down by blocking one of the servers that
was sending data, to just basically turn that data off. Now, again,
you also have to understand your smart device. It has

(52:13):
solfwaur in it. One of the things we talk about
almost every week is software updates. Why it's important to
get the updates for vendors. Another reason why I don't
like these things is because in many cases, after a
relatively short period of time, they'll move on to a
new model and they stop making software updates, which then
makes the model you currently have vulnerable. So again, you
need some amount of two way communication with the people

(52:36):
that make these things because you want to get the
software updates. He turns off this telemetry data it's collecting,
and they basically remotely brick that's fancy nerds speak for
disable the sweeper itself. So again this kind of I
know I've gone on a circuitous route here, but I'm
getting back to you. If you purchase at this device, right,
you spend your hard earned money on this, and then

(52:58):
they can turn it off simply because they don't like
the way you're using it. In this case, he disabled
some of the information they were able to collect from it.
Do you really own that device? Apparently not, I'm going
to say no. Yeah, I'm going to say no. Now,
he was eventually able to keep hacking at it, and
you know, again, this is a very technical guy, well
beyond the capabilities of the average person, was able to

(53:22):
make it work despite this. But yeah, you know, if
you read the article here, I'm reading directly from furthermore
the engineer made one disturbing discovery. Deep in the lungs
of his non functioning smart vacuum. He found a command
with a time stamp, that stamp that matched exactly the
time the gate had to stop working. This is clearly
a command, a kill command. And after he reversed it
and rebuted the appliance, it roared back to life. Now

(53:43):
you know, they turned it off again once that he
stopped the data collection again. He's kind of worked around
it and it works. But you know, this is a
three hundred dollars device. How much time do you want
to spend trying to hack your three hundred dollars device?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Well, and I don't want to spend Any ignorant person
that unlike you, wouldn't be in a position to even
go in and tinker with it. I mean, it's like
the peace of God for me this computer stuff. I'm
not a program and I would even know what to
look for. But this points out that I think the
greatest thing about it is it's like people who are
arguing about property tax. You really own your property. If
you continue to have to make payments or have your

(54:18):
property then foreclosed on, you don't this device. If you
don't allow it to steal your take your data, steal
your data, even though you've been warned ahead of time
with the agreement you enter into, which you never read.
It's not yours if they can shut it off. Period.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Oh well, and one out of the point, you know,
going back to my security and privacy dumpster fire comment
that I'm making over and over and over about these things,
let me just let me just read one last statement
from this. From this, you looked at it software and
operating system, and that's where he discovered the dark truth.
The smart vacuum was a security nightmare in a black
hole for his personal data. First off, it's andrei dbug Bridge,

(54:55):
which gave him full root access to the vacuum, wasn't
protected by any kind of password or so Again, it's
not just that do you really own it. They can
remotely disable it if they don't like what you're doing.
If it's on a subscription service and you decide to
stop paying the subscription, it's again you offer. These things
almost always have the wrong consumer incentives. They're designed for

(55:18):
speed to market, market share, ease of use. They're not
designed for your privacy and security. And again I would
argue in most cases they are doing the exact opposite.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Right of that. And in the case of these rheumbo
type vacuums, they're now equipped with cameras, as you pointed
out previously on the Morning Show, cameras that have photographs
of people showing up on the Internet, sitting there on
the toilet or in other compromising positions. Because they're creepy
vacuum cleaner as hoovering up all this data, I guess
and sending it out into the world. Scary stuff. Don't
do it, that's my default position. I listened to Dave

(55:51):
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Doing it in a day early doesn't change the dynamic.
The topics are still crazy interesting. And here's another scary one.

(56:11):
What is this remote code execution that people can can
hack into or use.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yes, so when you hear the term remote code execution,
basically what that's saying is that you could remotely access
the system and execute commands on it. That's sort of
the layman's terms explanation of what that means. It's a
little more technical than that, but suffice it to say,
if I can get to your system, and thanks to

(56:40):
now everything being connected and full of software as we
just discussed with the sweeper in the last story, I
mean this is sort of another example of why we
are increasingly creating problems in society by adding software to
everything now. And Brian, you know I'm no luddite, and
I spent twenty five plus years as a software engineer,
so I'm not against this stuff per se. My issue is,

(57:03):
again we are always trying to move fast and break things.
We're not focused on privacy and security, as I mentioned before.
We're focused on things like speed to market, ease of use,
market share, convenience, and you know, your modern car. We've
talked about this before. I encourage people to go see
Privacy not Included from Mozilla again, Privacy not Included. Look

(57:23):
it up. It's easy to find. They explore these kinds
of systems, rank them, rate them, that sort of thing,
and they did a big expos on modern cars. I
think it was probably at the end of twenty twenty
three and about you know, they're all basically rolling computers
now with all kinds of sensors and.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Data, Internet of things, with devices that we don't have
any choice to buy one that's not Internet connected or
connected to the cloud in some way, shape or form,
connected to the manufacturer in some way, shape or form.
They don't have an opt out provision for that day, not.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
That I'm aware of, no, And they talk about that
in Privacy Not Included, And you know that's that's one
of the problems with everything you buy now theoretically is
smart Anyhow, this just goes to show you again why
this is not such a good idea. And I'm not
saying there won't come a time where all of this
will make sense, but until the people building this stuff
are focused on privacy and security, especially the security piece

(58:17):
and especially the robustness and resilience piece. Right. The fact
that these things won't go down when you need them,
The fact that they can't be exploited and then used
to exploit other devices in your system that lead to
money and shutting ransomware and that sort of stuff. That's
my concern. So here four flaws in open Synergies Blue
SDKSDK means Software Development Kit Blue two stack that I's

(58:41):
successfully exploited could allow remote code executions on millions of
transport vehicles from different vendors. Now this stop before I
even go and think about that millions of vehicles from
different vendors. So theoretically, what this is telling you is,
for anyone who has used open Synergies Blue Software Development
IT in their vehicles, because of these vulnerabilities, at least

(59:03):
until they're patched, someone could remotely control those vehicles. Now
it doesn't necessarily mean they could use the throttle for
the brakes. Maybe they could. I think that, you know,
you've got to really dig into some of these things
to understand just how widely exploitable they are. But it
goes on to say, then fashion together exploit chained and

(59:27):
run arbitrary code on cars from at least three major automakers, Mercedes, Benz, Volkswagen,
and Skota. I don't I'm not familiar with Skoda. I
guess that's a European brand. And then it says outside
of these, fourth unnamed original equipment manufacturer has been confirmed
to be affected as well. So again, to think about this,

(59:49):
almost every car made today probably everyone is full of software,
software made by human beings. Human beings make mistakes, you know, bugs, vulnerabilities,
call it whatever you want. And when you think about
the possibility that a nation state adversary, on the day
they decide to bring it all down or whatever, could
suddenly take control of these vehicles and possibly, at the

(01:00:12):
very minimum at least make them stop. Yeah, you know,
perhaps they can't turn them into guided missiles by taking
over the GPS and directing them to run into something,
but they could probably at least take them, make them
stop or behavior radically cause problems. Now imagine if those
were in you know, police vehicles, fire trucks, ambulances, semi trailers. Yeah,

(01:00:36):
it's it's not good. And you know, further on in
here they say perfect Blue allows an attacker to achieve
remote code execution on a vulnerable device considered an endpoint
to the target system, which is critical. Speaking about vehicles, further,
lateral movement within the vehicle depends on its architecture and
might involve additional vulnerabilities. But the fact is, as we

(01:00:58):
just continue to make things smarter quote unquote, in many cases,
we're making them dumber because we are not focused on
the right things again, privacy and security trying to build
systems that can't be hacked or are incredibly difficult to hack,
as opposed to, Hey, let's just jam this stuff out there,

(01:01:18):
sell as many of these things as possible, and then
move on to the next model without any thought about
how all of the software inside these things to potentially
be exploited to steal your data, steal your money, shut
them down, shut your business down, cause chaos.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I'm just left with Listen, I got a choice on
whether I'm going to buy a room, but or not
if I go out and buy a modern automobile, I'm
stuck with this and I don't know what they've done
by way of security. I don't know, and I will
not know until somebody that takes over the damn car
you come on the show and announce that, well, your
car is capable of being hacked, and here's how they
did it, or something terrible happens. We don't have a

(01:01:55):
choice in the matter, and I wish we did. I
don't want a car hooked up? Can I buy one those? Presently?
The answer is pretty much no. We'll continue more.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, for new cars. That's pretty much true. Privacy included. Folks.
There you go take it out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Artificial intelligence is not what it's cracked up to be.
That coming up next with Dave Hatter. But if you're
looking for a world class smile.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Six.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
If you want fift about KCD talk station Brian Thomas
with interest, its Dave Hatter, it's his company interest it
dot com is reaffinded And this one actually put a
smile on my face, Dave. Artificial intelligence is not all
it's cracked up to be. Although I see this as
being a temporary phenomenon that look much like the Internet
of Things devices. They'll probably try to iron it out
and get more efficient and more accurate. But at least

(01:02:38):
as of right now, we can't fully rely on AI.
I suppose can we?

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Yeah, And there's a finer point of distinction here, Brian.
First off, I'm going to be clear. You know, folks
should go try these tools for themselves. Oh yeah, they
can be extremely beneficial and productive when you understand what
they can and can't do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
You can also write a number one country music song too.
Yeah did you see that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
But I did not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
The number one country music song in the land is
artificial intelligence created, and it's also performed by a holy
artificial intelligence quote unquote artist number one song in country music. Okay,
millions millions of clicks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, okay, miss that. But this gets to something called
agentic AI or AI agents. Some would argue there's a
small distinction between those two things, but ultimately, for the
average person, they mean the same thing. And this article
from the Register does a pretty good job explaining that.
One of the examples they give, for example, is when

(01:03:42):
astronaut Dave Bowman orders how nine thousand the computer in
two thousand and one to open the pod bay doors.
How that's an example of agentic AI. You're asking the
AI to actually take some action in the real world, right, So,
and they're pointing out because there's been a lot of
hype around I mean, obviously it's been a lot of
hype around AA in general, but there's been a lot
of hype around agentic AI in particular. And this idea

(01:04:05):
that more more than I can just go down and
type something in and it gives me some data or
creates a video or a song or whatever, that I
can ask it to do something right, perhaps do some work.
And this is where you know, folks start to get
concerned about at some point in the future job loss
and such, because these agents can perform tasks, and you know,

(01:04:27):
we've seen some success with certain things like this and
interest in certain fixed spaces. Right. So again I'm not
saying this can't work or there's not some value in it.
I'm just saying I think that there's so much hype
around this stuff, and you've got to remember that people
behind it, of course, are going to hype it up
because they want you to buy it, right, So they

(01:04:49):
get into some things in this article that I thought
were quite interesting. For example, they mentioned that researchers at
CMU have developed benchmark to evaluate how AI agents perform
when given column knowledge common knowledge work tasks like browsing
the web, writing code, running applications, and communicating with coworkers.

(01:05:10):
They call it the Agent company. A simulation environment, a
simulated environment designed to mimic a small software firm and
it's business operations. So this is, you know, again, a
test and environment. Goes on to say they did sort
of help clarify the debate between AI believers, who argue
that the majority of human labor can be automated, and
AI skeptics, who see such claims as part of a
gigantic AI drift. The gap between these two positions, they

(01:05:33):
argue detailing their project is due to the lack and
the way of how these things are tested at common
workplace activities, thus their benchmark. And then they go on
to list a bunch of different AI platforms that can
perform these kinds of tasks at best. Google Gemini two
point five pro performed thirty percent of the tasks.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Directly as in seventy of the time they did it
raw on yes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
And it goes down pretty precipitously. From there, it drops
off all the way to Gwinn two point seven to
two b at one point one percent, and they say, quote,
we find in experiments that the best performing the model
was able to autonomously perform thirty point three percent of
the provided test to completion and achieve a score of

(01:06:21):
thirty nine point three percent on our metric that proves
provides extra credit for partially completed tasks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
That's still an f.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Uh, yeah, can you really for any sort of critical task?
And you know, one of the big concerns I have
about all of these things, and it's not often talked
about in this context, is if you have an agent right,
and again by agent, I mean it can do something
on your behalf. Well, it's going to have to act
as you or with some sort of online identity. It's

(01:06:51):
going to have to have a username and password, that
sort of thing. If that information is not secured, or
if you give an access to your bank count for example,
or a credit card, are you going to trust it
to be wrong seventy percent of the time with that information?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Uh No, especially when they're nefarious actors outside of your
business operation. They're trying to hack in and get and
take over control of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Yeah, that's and that's my point again, I want people
to understand. I'm not saying that you should never use
these things. You shouldn't check them out, you shouldn't try
to figure out how they can work for you. But
if you're going to use them, you need to test
them very thoroughly, or use them for tasks where there's
limited risk and or you really have to be thinking
about security. You have to be thinking about, Okay, am

(01:07:37):
I gonna how am I going to manage the credentials
this thing is using it? The username of password MFA,
How am I going to make sure that someone can't hack.
It can't steal those credentials, or it can't go wrong
and cause a catastrophic impact.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Well, exactly, that's where I'm thinking the opening and closing
of any given valve at any given power plant or
water facility treatment plan or Yeah, that's the kind of
stuff that that really scares me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Dave. I'm concerned about critical infrastructure in general, but especially
those kinds of things, because again, one wrong decision could
be catastrophic in some cases.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
So oh, and you're going to get a wrong decision
two thirds of the time according to this article Carnegie
Mellon study. Check it out in Dave's notes over at LinkedIn.
Find Dave Hatter at LinkedIn. He always posts notes up there,
and he's a good man to follow on LinkedIn as well.
Dave Hatter wish we had more time. We are out
of it. I'll look forward to back to our regular
order of business next Friday with another edition of tech

(01:08:36):
Friday with Dave Hatter, And again, salute to you and
your company, Interest it Online at interest dot com for
doing great work for area businesses, but also for sponsoring
the segment. Man, have a great weekend, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Oh, where's my pleasure? Brian, thanks and you and Joe
and all your listeners do thanks mine.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Six fifty seven. Congressman Warren Davidson up next, don't col Way.
Today's top headlines coming up at the top of it.
Seven oh six. Here at fifty five KRCD talk station

(01:09:17):
pause long, pregnant pause, pause, pause. Chose trying to get
Congressman Warren Davidson hasn't been unsuccessful so far. If you're
near or next to Congressman Warren Davidson right now, just
poke him and say, hey, you're supposed to be on
the morning show, or send out a search barn search
party for him. So I hope Congressman Davidson gets to

(01:09:37):
join us. Obviously, the shutdown is an effect, or the
is no longer an affect. Donald Trump signed the bill
reopening the government, UH yesterday, and I don't know what's next,
but I have thoughts and ideas about that. Of course,
the Democrats taking it on the chin as a consequence
of the shutdown, no one to blame but themselves. They
were able, they weren't able to successfully blame the Republicans.

(01:09:59):
Clearly they really didn't get anything at all in return
for bringing you and forcing you to go through all
this pain, and to the extent you weren't listening to
me earlier on the program, I will refer you to
Barton Swain's op ed piece. Y Schumer had to do it,
And really it boils down to all of these non
government organizations and these political activist groups out there really

(01:10:20):
just burning up the phones and pressuring Democrats to keep
support coming in there in the form of taxpayer aid
to their NGOs for crazy stuff, you know, Democratic base.
And they, he pointed out, we weren't asking for you know,
Joe Biden to leave the border wide open. They weren't
asking for that at all. It wasn't a top priority
for them. Neither was letting men play in women's sports.

(01:10:47):
That wasn't number one of most Democrats hit parade. These
were all the pressuring from non government organizations. Men aren't women.
That was a lot of pressure from taxpayer funded, non
government organizations trying to convince the America and the world that, yeah,
all you got to do is say you're a girl,
and then you're a girl. We all knew that wasn't true.
We all knew that wasn't right. You just had to
fight this messaging that was going on in the world.

(01:11:09):
And of course democrats that come to all that pressure
and they realized that a lot of their goals politically
are supported by these various fringe elements, and he rattles
off a whole bunch of them, from Planned Parenthood, ACLU,
the American Federation of Teachers, National Education Associations, Southern Poverty
Law Center, Black Lives Matter, Human Rights Campaign, LGBTQ, activist groups,

(01:11:31):
Foreign Connected Palestinian rights others like that. And these aren't
winning propositions, they're not getting money from you and I
to support these causes. It's coming from the George Soros
types of the world. But also again things like entities
like USAID. I keep going back to the original work
that Doge did and sadly didn't come out and amount

(01:11:54):
to a whole lot compared to what we were promised.
But do you think really anybody was clamoring for politicians
to fund crazy research projects involving transvestite lesbians in China
or whatever. That may be an overstatement of the absurdity,
but you can pick your own really genuine absurd program
that was in fact being funded by your taxpayer dollars.
So that maybe he may be onto something there part

(01:12:16):
and swam, so I'll let you read it for yourself.
Since we don't have Congressman Davidson, I'm kind of left
reeling over which direction I want to go right now.
So the phone lines are open, Why don't you call
and tell me what you want to talk about? Five one, three, seven, four,
nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three
talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones fast
forward one hour. Actually, yeah, Take twenty speaker tonight, Empower

(01:12:36):
Youamerica dot Org. Now, we heard from Donaldan O'Neil yesterday
about we have too many little subgovernments in the state
of Ohio. Some people agree, some people disagree. Devil is
clearly in the details. He makes some good points, but
he'll elaborate on that. AFP's Donovan O'Neil tonight at seven pm.
But that Take twenty segment they do in Empower You seminars.
That's Eric Conroy today, and we have some hope here

(01:12:59):
in the form of Eric Conroy, who's running against Greg Landsman.
Eric spent a lot of time with the CIA Directorate
of Operations, served as a case officer. Apparently the agency's
most prestigious role managing these clandestine operations. Elder High school
grad from my West Side friends as well, So thanks

(01:13:20):
a little. Well, no, I'm not going to hold it
against them. Every time hear about Elder High School, I
think about the time my dad told me I was
not allowed to go there. God rest of my dad. Yes,
dad was an older high school graduate, thought I was
spending a little bit too much time with my elder
high school age friends and didn't want to see that

(01:13:41):
go throughout the day. That's the answer I got, Dad.
Can I go to Elder No, you got two choices,
son Oakhill's High schoolers Javier University. I chose the former.
Did not hurt me a whit getting through life. So
we'll hear from Eric Conroy coming up in eight OZHO
five and then Special Style. I ain't holding championships. The

(01:14:01):
twenty twenty five US Nationals right here in the city
of Cincinnati. Mike Kisel one of those German guys on Facebook.
He is one. Mike KUIs has been on the show before.
He along with Ben Huffman, who's the executive director of
the Cincinnate Regional Sports Commission, I'm gonna talk about this
prestigious event right here in the city of Cincinnati, with
profound ties to Germany. Generally speaking, how long can you

(01:14:23):
hold up a style? Let's see what Lawrence has got. Lawrence,
thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Hey, thanks for having me, Brian. I was calling. Yeah,
I was calling because I.

Speaker 10 (01:14:35):
Vote they of course my name is Lawrence, I Liddle
named Florence, but my government name is on this op
ed I think you referred to I'm glad you talked
about it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
Oh yes, expounded upon it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Please do I did. There were two op eds recently,
both from what sounded to me like discrontal Bond Hill
residents who all overwhelmingly voted for mare aftab Per of
all the prior council members all re elected, with the
exception of the one seat was over and which also
went Democrat. And there's this project, and you guys were
the focus of like Hyde Park going up to the election,

(01:15:07):
a community that was ignored by the representative government. Am
I right on that? Generally speaking? Before you dive into
the details, Lawrence, that's true, all right, so have that it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Well, here's the thing, Brian.

Speaker 10 (01:15:21):
We see the election results, right and I was shocked
when I seen this obed as well from a bond
Hill resident. So I was confused, Like, why do you
tell the politicians to respect you if you feel disrespected
the week after the election? Like you're supposed to show

(01:15:42):
that type of energy before the election to hold them
accountable for the bad choices that they have been making. Yeah,
but so to ask them on the back end of
an election, Hey, you need to respect us, although we
gave you all our votes. To me, is Asini, it
makes no sense. And this is how the Democratic Party
gets away with Robin the African American community political We don't.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
Hold them accountable like we should.

Speaker 10 (01:16:08):
I just vote straight down a Democratic ticket and it's
to our own demands.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Now, why do you think someone would do that? Lawrence?
And I guess the question is I sort of were
people who actually voted, and I know there's a sad
reality there only about one in four of the registered
voters in the city voted. But to the extent they
were thinking about this, did they think, well, if I
vote for the current administration again, we put them back
in that in return for that, they will see that
my neighborhood, in this case bond Hill gave them the

(01:16:35):
love they needed. They overwhelmingly re elected them, so we
will get what we are looking for, as opposed to
getting what you're looking for up front and then voting
to reward them. So they apparently got it backwards.

Speaker 10 (01:16:45):
Lawrence, Absolutely, Brian, they got it backwards.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
And here's the point I wanted to make.

Speaker 10 (01:16:53):
We got to stop voting out of fear as a community,
as an Afromeric community, we have to stop voting out
of fear. And I feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
That Corey Bowman was.

Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
Used as a punching bag to scare black folks into
voting down the Democratic ticket by saying, oh, this is J. D.
Vance's brother. And the media is part of the blame too,
because every time Corey got some ink on him, they
always mentioned the vice president.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I know, but Lawrence, let me ask you a more
basic question. You're absolutely right in how they and how
they characterize Corny Bowman as JD. Vance's brother. But let
me ask you this. That's apparently toxic to members of
the black community. As you say, why would the black
community have any fear or worry about JD. Vance? I mean,
what threat does he represent to you or anybody else

(01:17:44):
in the black community, Lawrence.

Speaker 10 (01:17:46):
I mean, for me, jd Vance, the current Vice President
of the United States, is not a threat to me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:17:53):
I believe that a lot of times the Afrimair community
has been groomed to vote Democrats. The civil rights the
voted rights that excuse me, in the sixties, way before
my time. So as I grew up as a young man,
the city is Cincinnati, because I was born and raised here,
Democratic politics was always something that was pushed on our community,

(01:18:15):
something that we still have yet to break free from
as a community. And until that happens, we get these
bad results, like you know, straight Democrats, no opposition our
city council, no accountability for the mayor although we've seen
the entire year in the last four years, rather that
he has been ineffective.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Yeah, and several decades of ineffective Democratic administrations, I might
point out, Lawrence. Do you feel like your neighborhood has
improved over the same past ten years, fifteen years or so?
Is your are your roads? Have they been paved? Is
your neighborhood does it feel safe or maybe less safe
than it used to be? I mean, what reward and
benefit did your particular community or you individually Lawrence get

(01:18:59):
by virtue of voting Democrat in the city of Cincinnati
for the past forty I guess it's been like forty years.

Speaker 10 (01:19:06):
I mean my community, the black community, we have not
benefited from it. It's like, you know, there's some people
who push this Democratic agenda just to keep control with
the Black community. It's not the better it you know,
it's to keep control. It's to make sure that Democrats
keep getting elected vocally. And the reality is that is

(01:19:28):
to the detriment of our community. Time example, like I
vote about Bond Hill, Like you didn't want high density
and near these homes where people are invested trying to
get generational wealth for their family, majority African American people,
but you vote.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
For the folks who are destroying your home values.

Speaker 10 (01:19:47):
Yeah, you know, it's like like this is this is craziness,
and I just, I just I want to continue to
work in Cincinnati to try to break people's minds free
of that Democratic ticket. I'm I like to call it
crack Oka. You know, it's addictive and it's destructive and
hopefully at some point we understand that lexis have consequences

(01:20:10):
and maybe while he will get that message.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
You know what Lawrence. Honestly, I really thought this might
have been I tried my best to be optimistic that
that realization would have finally dawned on at least the
residence of bond Hill or at least the residence of
Hyde Park, because those are the two most egregious examples
of this particular council in this particular mayor basically ignoring
what you want. I mean, look what Hyde Park was

(01:20:33):
able to get a ballot initiative on to reverse that
ridiculous project that the city approved over the will of
the residence of hyde Park, only to see Hyde Park
goes seventy five percent to have to have perv all
the balancer council. In the aftermath, they rewarded.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
So this apartment of white community.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:20:52):
I'm just I mean, I'm glad you pointed Hot Park
out by He'll triggered me because of the op ed.
But you point out what High Park is, right. You know,
they fight so hard to protect the character the community,
only to give power back to the politicians who try
to destroy it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
It's crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:21:08):
It's a Stockholm syndrome type of mentality. Well, the white community,
it's like the Democrats are good, Republican bad and it's
like zombies.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Well I couldn't as summed it up any better. And
I'm glad as a member of the black community, Lawrence,
you see it, and I'm glad you're out there fighting
to wake people up. You mean, simple questions need to
be asked. Are you better off now than you were before?
What has JD. Vans ever done to you that you
view them as any kind of threat to you or
your neighborhood in Cincinnati over which Jdvan says little or
no control. Ah, there's a billionaire.

Speaker 10 (01:21:39):
If And I appreciate you pointing out the high Park
that the same problems going.

Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
On in the white community.

Speaker 10 (01:21:45):
It's just a it's a political thing, and we can't
just paint people in the corners locally as it relates
to politics like it just it has to change at
some point in time otherwise you're going to continue to
get bad policy. I look for the next two years,
we're gonna get bad policy out of city.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Unfortunately, Well wait for it, Lawrence. You may get yourself
a second leg of the street car too, Lauren.

Speaker 14 (01:22:13):
That might be on that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
We'll see though, We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
And yeah, lead the charge, Laurence, somebody's got to do it.
You sound like a good man for the job. Thanks
for calling in. I really appreciate it. You have a great
weekend Man seven, twenty fifty five car City Dog Station.
Feel free to call five one three, seven four nine
fifty seven twenty four Fast Proaching seven twenty five fifty
five care City Talk Station. We have a moment here
I had. I alluded to it when I was talking

(01:22:37):
to Dave Hatter, and I just my mind is blown,
although really not overly surprised. I mentioned the fake cowboy
and fake artificial intelligence created music that is number one
country charts. Walk My Walk, performed by someone named Breaking Rust,
number one of Billboard's Country Song Sales Chart Digital Song Sales.

(01:22:58):
I don't know who's making the money off of this,
but artificial intelligence wrote the song, artificial intelligence performed the song.
This is not a human being, does not exist in
the flesh, nonetheless pulling in more than two million monthly listeners.
Apparently the hit performed by the artificial intelligence breaking Russ

(01:23:19):
this quote unquote guy living on borrowed times streamed more
than four million times at least as of reporting from
two days ago. Is probably ten million by now, So
it's it's weird, and I think I know some musicians

(01:23:39):
and some artists out there, and I just scratched my
head and wonder how maybe they can compete against something
like this that literally in a moment's time, insofar as
lyrics are concerned. I've done this before. I'm jokingly did
it on the radio program. I did write a punk
rock song about I can't remember Greta Thunberg or whatever.
It turned it out in a matter of five seconds.

(01:24:00):
I'm great. The lyrics were great, it was comical, it
was funny, and as I was reading it in my head,
I actually came up with a tune that went right
along with it. So this is the the call it creepy,
or just call it dealing with with with modern reality
and who cares who wrote it and who cares who
performed it? If it entertains us and it say, okay,
I don't know. I really can't view it that way,

(01:24:23):
not at all. And then you get that looming question,
you know, is this really the work of any work
anybody out there, an author, an artist, an artist of
any type? Did they personally do this and thus are
worthy of my respect for their brilliance and their genius

(01:24:44):
and composing or or painting or whatever it happens to be.
You know, it's like sort of equity hires. You know,
you're a doctor, you're awesome, you legitimately performed, you got
a great education, you're brilliant by contrast to some of
your peers. And you're out and you're a doctor, and
someone looks at you and says, must be a diversity

(01:25:07):
hire or something like that. It taints the whole air.
Did that person really prepare that? Are they worthy of
my respect for the eloquence that the words that are
coming out of their mouth suggest? Or they just get
in front of a computer with their mouth hanging open,
little drool coming out of the court of their mouth,
and say, make me a song that's about Greta Thunberg Right.

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Seven twenty eight fifty five KRCD talk station Summary seven
thirty two fifty five kr CD talk station. A couple
of callers online. You can be one of them. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two three talk
pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Gonna go
with the order in which they ever see which means, Eric,
welcome to the morning show, my meme loving friend. How
are you today, Eric?

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
I am, well, how are you?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Brian doing fine?

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
I enjoy your Facebook posts.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
I figured, hey, since you got time on the air,
I figured i'd i'd just call in and say I
appreciate the things that you do, the things that you
talk about, the perspective you have on just pretty much everything.
You know, we disagree on certain religious aspects, and I
don't hold that against anybody. I'm all about people believing

(01:26:22):
what they want to believe, as long as they're not
you know, picking my pocket, breaking my leg, or you know,
generally keeping it away from my grandkids.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
But true to litarian philosophy, Eric, I know that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Absolutely. I mean I've been listening to the KRC Morning
Show since probably two thousand and three, two thousand and four,
so back before you were, you know, the main stay
on the show. But I don't know, You've got your
ups and downs and in and outs and whatnot. I
just wanted to express my appreciation that, you know, you

(01:26:56):
take the time. I don't know you're getting paid for it,
but there's also a certain amount of dedication to the
things that you do. And you know, you can tell
when somebody's he's just phoning it in and they just
you know, mouthing the words to uh, well, keep it
on the air.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. You know, this is
I've said it before. It I have a set of
principles and convictions, my own ethics and morals, my own
belief systems, and I'm so firmly wed to them and
believe in them so firmly that I'll take all comers.
You don't have to agree with me one hundred percent,
but I'll defend my belief systems and my perspective, which, again,

(01:27:32):
you know, given my little L libertarian leanings, I trust
you with your decision making. Don't let your decisions interfere
with my own and my own you know world, my money,
my pocketbook, and my my sex life. I trust you
with your zipper and your wallet, like any true liberty
little L libertarian or capital L libertarian typically does. That's
what freedom's all about.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
Eric, right, absolutely, And as a as a dear friend
of mine used to say, his name's Charlie. He's actually
the guy that got me into listening.

Speaker 16 (01:28:02):
To your show.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
He used to say, you know, there are choices, challenges
and changes. You know, you make choices, and those choices
present challenges. Thouse the way we deal with those challenges
bring about changes. You know, he's a much wiser man
than I ever will be. But you know it's you
have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of

(01:28:25):
your decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Amen. Brother. That's why I start the morning show with
the song I start with learn to Swim.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
Right here, Learn to Swim. Meet you out in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Bay, Amen, Eric.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
And before I go, I just wanted to say, similar
to what Tom says, you know, you don't have to
be a you don't have to be a Republican, but
you just can't be a Democrat.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Mirroring a theme that brought up by Lawrence just a
few moments ago. Eric, God bless you, sir, Appreciate you.
Seven thirty five Corey, hang on, brother, I know you
got good things to say say, but I'm seven thirty nine.
I think you have KARSD talk Station. Happy Friday, Eve,
just tuning in. We're maring me from early today. Garret
Jeff Walker is coming for me tomorrow. I'm taking a

(01:29:12):
vacation day tomorrow and Monday with Dan Carroll covering for me.
You are going to be in great hands. It's typical
Gary Dan. Thanks in advance. I appreciate Corey holding over
the break. Corey, Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 8 (01:29:24):
Hello Brian Hey, going off with your last caller said,
I listened to you every day. I do think you
have great content. I travel all over the Midwest. I'm
currently going through ann Arbor on the way to Sagonhall, Michigan,
and I said, I listen to you if I heart
app every single day.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
And you guys with me in.

Speaker 8 (01:29:45):
The truck they listened to you as well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
But I can't thank you enough for that. And I
always find it really cool. And somebody calls it from
out of state with the iHeart I don't know. I
just I'm I haven't ever gotten use to that concept,
so it's awesome though. I really think that's cool.

Speaker 8 (01:30:00):
Well, the reason of my call you're talking about AI.
I've been playing music since I was eleven. My dream
has always been to be a professional physician, you know,
tour all that good stuff, played in front house with people.
I've larded with the opportunity a couple of times. I've
never really got there. I'm still trying, But as far

(01:30:20):
as the AI thing goes, I don't see really any
issue with it, because most of your pop music today anyway,
is so artificially produced. Yeah, somebody writes their songs, their
voice is so manipulated, and the radio stations, the radio programmer,
the artists, record company pays the radio stations to play

(01:30:43):
the music you hear. That's why it's the same ten
songs constantly on rotation. And people ask me why do
I listen to talk radio, and I always tell them
because I get tired of hearing the same ten songs
every single hour of every radio station.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Idio, mainstream radio is.

Speaker 14 (01:30:59):
So that's why I.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Well, I really appreciate the kind words, and I'm honored
that you would choose my radio program to listen to
among the I don't know how many thousands or maybe
out in the world that you could stream through an app.
So that to me, I'm honored by that reality. But
I will correct you because Joe Streker was shaking his
head and I was shaking my head. No, that's not
how the financial reality works. If we play a song,

(01:31:25):
we have to pay the artist, So nobody's paying us
to play a particular song. That's a banned by the FCC.
It's called playola and you can't do that, so we
would get fined. Yeah, find big time. I think that
is a gross understatement. Streker, Yes, it would subject us
to massive financial penalties. When you hear that same song

(01:31:46):
over and over again, I guess it's like that artificially
intelligence created country music song that people are going wild
for even though it isn't created by a human being,
that people would just want to hear it. I mean,
I'm sure we can all remember periods of time in
our lives when you turned on a radio you couldn't
get away from a song. Why because it was the

(01:32:07):
Billboard top ten or something like that, and if you
were playing it that people would stay tuned into your
show because the song was popular. And you get into
this death spirl coupled with programming that uses those sort
of research numbers and artificial intelligence, let's say, kind of
operation where it used to be a human being like
a randomly and picking songs that the jockey of the

(01:32:28):
disc jockey used to like back in the day. He
gets like pirate radio sort of concepts where man, I've
never heard that anywhere, nobody's playing that that's how a
lot of people were introduced to different types of music.
Well that's been taken away now. It's sort of one
size fits all programming. They figure out what most popular
songs are, they put them in a rotation regularly, and
you hit play and you're stuck with it. So that's

(01:32:48):
my perception of how things are working. And again, the
FCC strictly prohibits playing things in return for compensation, so
it tends to work the opposite way. But Dan, you're
dissatisfaction with it, And yes, I share your belief about
modern music sucking. You got harmonizers and fake voices and
any idiot standing there and what they do it's oh,

(01:33:09):
let us, let us go way back. Here's a blast
in the past. You've got to get a chuckle out
of some of these people. You remember the Brady Bunch
episode where Mike, the oldest Brady kid, what was his name, Mike?
That was the husband Greg Greg Remember anybody remember Johnny Bravo.

(01:33:29):
I think it was some music company. They had a suit.
It was sort of like a matador's uniform, and he
thought he landed this great musical gig, this record gig,
and it turns out the only reason they hired him,
as opposed to any other human being, was because he
fit the suit. And that's even more true these days.

(01:33:50):
I need a good looking person standing there on stage. No,
I don't care whether they can sing or not. Just
give me a really good looking person. We can sell
based upon their image, will create image around them, will
sell it massively, infuse on social media, and we'll just
use some sort of mechanical device to make them sound
like they actually can carry a tune when maybe they can't.

(01:34:11):
They pulled that off with Millie Vanilli way way back,
a long time before we even had artificial intelligence. Walking
down memory lane five one three, seven, four nine fifty
five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk found five
fifty on AT and T phones. And since I mentioned
memory Lane earlier this morning, Pat was called dismayed by
how dangerous it is now in certain neighborhoods where she

(01:34:33):
remembered when she was a kid that she could walk
around and feel safe even as a child. And well,
thus it has ever been. You know, there's all kinds
of neighborhoods that have changed dramatically. The question is what
do we do about crime?

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
This was in the context of the new curfews that
are being put in place by pervol and city Council,
and I set out loud. I remember when I was
a really little kid walking down to the king Quick store's,
the one on Knee Road there near Rapid Run. I
used to walk down there Devil's Backbone. If you're not
familiar with that, doesn't mean anything to you. Devil's Backbone

(01:35:04):
not necessarily a safe road because of the way it
used to be back then. It's still windy, it's still twisty,
but back then it was just an undivided two lane road.
Country kind of road, very country kind of road. I
don't matter what. My sister and I were able to
walk about two miles to go down to the king
Quick by ourselves, and we loved it. Go down and
buy Penny candy. My friend Curbbage Mike, I've mentioned him

(01:35:28):
many times. He's a retired submarin er guy military. He said.
My dad sold a family grocery store back in nineteen
sixty eight and over the road went to be the
manager at king Quick's stores. Generally speaking, he said, the
store at and even Rapid Run was his first store.
I thought, wow, that's a small It's just an amazing
coincidence there. But then that reminded me, when do you remember,

(01:35:50):
Since inflation is a real problem these days and it's
on everybody's lips, when do you remember your first encounter
with inflation? Mine was at King Quick because my sister
and I would walk down there to buy penny candy
and you get those little tiny white paper bags and
you have the guy behind the counter, and I want
one of those. I want one of those. They were

(01:36:11):
a penny apiece. I remember how shocked and heartbroken I
was when they went up to two cents apiece, and
then not that long thereafter, they went up to five
cents apiece. This was during the seventies when we were
dealing with massive inflation along with the stagnant economy. So
thanks for that blast from the past. My first experience
with inflation. King Quick run by Cribbage Mike's dad seven

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forty seven fifty five cars of the detog stations and
feel free to give me a call. Monday is today.
I hope the weather holds. I haven't even looked at
forecast from Monday, but I'm talking about galaxy, concrete cuttings
and the surface app seven fifty two five gar C
detalk station. At the top of the hour, news Eric Conroy,
he'll be the Take twenty speaker, and y empower use

(01:36:55):
some of our former CIA operative running for Congress against Greig.
We'll learn about what Eric's all about. Well, here about
what he's going to be talking about tonight. The Empower
You America Seminar. Go to Empower You America dot organ
either show up in person or log in from home.
Just make sure you register ahead of time. Jay, thanks
for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 17 (01:37:14):
Hey, good morning, Bryant. I am calling in.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
It's bittersweet.

Speaker 17 (01:37:19):
I am sad that the government shut down is over.
I am proud that the American people found out that
how painless it is to shut down the government for
ten percent of the year and almost you know, if
we want to cut government spending, that's the only way
to do it. Maybe we need to just do that
every year. Is just figure it into the system of

(01:37:41):
running the federal government that forty days a year, you're
going to shut this thing down until we have this
budget balanced and then they can make all the you know,
all the arrangements and change what they need to change
to make sure that the people that need to work
get paid. But second point, as if people think that
this air travel is going to go back to normal,

(01:38:04):
I got news for him. I've been I travel a lot,
and it's been severely broken since May I stopped air travel.
I'm driving everywhere. I'm just on my way back from
Rhode Island. I've driven down to Florida. And here's the
here's the truth. Whenever you fly versus drive, you're saving

(01:38:25):
yourself only a couple hours from Rhode Island CVG to
Rhode Island or CVG to to Florida, Northern Florida. You're
really not gaining much, but you sure are taking a risk.
And I think it goes back and nobody's talking about this.
It goes back to the COVID era, whenever air traffic
controllers and pilots were told you either take this experimental

(01:38:48):
job or you're not going to have a job, and
we lost a ton of people. Plug the infrastructure being
nineteen seventies floppy discs that I learned by listening to
your program.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Oh god, yeah it is.

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
It is bad.

Speaker 17 (01:39:04):
So we think we needed to turn this government back
on so we could all start traveling again. Brace yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
Folk.

Speaker 17 (01:39:11):
So this Thanksgiving and Christmas season, if you think it's
going to be like it was two years ago, three
years ago, five years ago, good luck for me. I'm
going to contain it to drive until they can prove
that they can get made from point A to point being,
not hang me out to drive every fricking week.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
I understand the decision making, Jay, but I am sure
that you are a confident driver that doesn't mind being
behind the wheel. If we had all the people who
choose air traffic as to fly as opposed to driving,
and the reason many of them fly is because they
are not competent drivers who feel comfortable behind the wheel
and shouldn't be on the road anyway, that you've got

(01:39:48):
a bigger problem on your end if we turn our
back on air traffic. Point well taken note, Jay, I'm
with you. But the other thing I got to interject,
did we really save anything by having the government shut down?
You saw what was negotiated. Return all the fired employees
to their job, give everybody the back pay that we
anticipated they were going to get. Anyway, we obviously had

(01:40:10):
the debt service on all the real estate government owes
the property tax pills that are doing everything else that
goes along with ownership of any property. They had to
deal with that, they continued to have to deal with that,
and of course that's an ongoing expense. It never does
go away so effectively, while most of our lives weren't
impacted by it, wor to some degree, we didn't save anything. No,

(01:40:35):
so just making a point on that. Seventy five coming up,
I'm really looking forward to having Eric Conroy on the show.
He's goin to come on the Empower You Summonar tonight again.
Empoweroamerica dot Org. Eric Conroy with the CIA for a
long time. Yes, I'm going to ask him if the
CIA got paid during the shutdown. But beyond that, we're
going to learn who Eric is because I'm thinking, based

(01:40:55):
upon what I've read about him, he's a hell of
a lot better choice than Greg Landsman. That'll be next
Today's Tough Headlines coming eight six at fifty five Garric
de Talk Station. Friday Eve, last day of the week
for me. He got Gary Jeff Walker covering for me
tomorrow on Monday's vacation day be covered by Dan Carrier
in great Hands and Thanks to both of those guys,

(01:41:17):
and thanks for joining the fifty five Carcy this morning
to do the Take twenty seminar and empower Youoamerica dot org.
You'll find out some information about what's going on tonight.
Empower You Studios located at three hundred Great Oaks Drive.
You can show up live and in person at seven
pm when the kickoff time begins. We heard from Americans
were prosperity Donovan o'eil yesterday. He'll be talking about while
Hiowa's government is so overpriced compared to other state governments,

(01:41:38):
with some ideas from AFP on that. But you'll also
get the Take twenty which is a shorter little segment
by my guest this morning, and I'm so pleased to
have him on the morning show, Eric Conroy. He grew
up on the West Side, went to Elder High School.
I know that pleases my West Side friends. Apparently comes
from a military family. His grandfather, World War Two veteran,
convincing was the right thing to serve his country and

(01:42:00):
his community. He did so. After nine to eleven, he
graduated from the US Air Force Academy near the top
of his class, rose to the rank of Captain in
Special Operations Unit. Then he went on to this CIA
as a case officer, and that's what he's going to
be talking about tonight for the Empower You America Seminar
his time as a CIA case officer. Welcome to the program.

(01:42:21):
It's a real pleasure to have you on and thank
you for your service for our country.

Speaker 14 (01:42:24):
Eric Conroy, Hey, good morning, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
Happy to a lot of my Westside friends are really
excited about I hate. A couple of people actually text
me yesterday and say, are you going to be talking
to Eric Conroy to Mark because he's doing an Empower
You seminar tomorrow and I'm like, okay, I think we are,
And of course Joe Strecker lined yup. First, I got
a couple of questions for you before we get I
want to deal a little bit with your campaign. You're
running against Greg Landsman, and all my listening audience, at
least the vast majority of them, are looking for an alternative.

(01:42:51):
So I'm going to give them your campaign website. It's simple,
Ericconroy dot com. Boom right there, Meet the man, meet
the issues, learn all about him, and yes, you do
have a better alternative to Greg Landsman. But moving over
to your time with the CIA, I got a quote,
and you may take this the wrong way, Eric, I
have to ask you during the shutdown which just ended
last night, were the members in the CIA and the

(01:43:13):
CIA operations were they being funded or did they have
to take up pay freeze?

Speaker 14 (01:43:19):
It really depends on what part right, And you're you're dedicated.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
You're dedicated.

Speaker 14 (01:43:23):
People in the field are working and.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
Defending this country.

Speaker 14 (01:43:26):
So it's not much different than how the military operates
in that regard, all.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Right, it's just more covert. And yeah, and while you
were with the CIA, because I have I know people
who worked for the CIA. I have a current I
will call him a distant relative by marriage who walks
around and says he's with the State Department, but he's
actually with the CIA. Did you go around telling everybody
with the State Department?

Speaker 14 (01:43:48):
Eric, Yeah, Brian, I did some very great work for
our country overseas. I defended this country and it's it's
been a terrific experience of work for the c i
A the last well god seven years, and then the
Air Force for seven years before that. So there are
great dedicated men and women doing that work in harms

(01:44:10):
way overseas and I was really just proud and privileged
to be a part of it. It was a tremendous experience.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Fair enough, as a litigation attorney, I'm going to say,
move to strike, non responsive. I'm just giving you a
hard time. Eric, just I know, let's CIA get I'm
with the State Department. I had a college professor who
literally worked for the CIA said that you hear's somebody say,
with the State Department, you can pretty much bank on
the fact of the CIA. All right, moving away in
your time as a CIA case off operator, what will

(01:44:35):
your tasks? And I don't know how much detail you
can get into And you're gonna be talking about this tonight,
the empower you seminar, But how much detail you can
get into some of the type of operations you're involved in.
But I think everyone views the job is filled with
intrigue and you know, spying and all this. So what
did the job entail?

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
Eric?

Speaker 14 (01:44:53):
It is, Well, Hey, what the CIA primarily does is
this is old school espanage, right, this is meeting people.
That's kind of like being a special journalist, Right. You
need to go out in the streets, meet people, understand
who they are and what they might have, and that
could be anyone from our foreign adversaries or tyrorist groups.
And you need to build relationships with people to get

(01:45:14):
information that will help protect this country. And I was
able to do that overseas, both in Eastern Europe and
in war zones. And it is very much different than
maybe other ways that the intelligence community may gain information,
such as pictures from satellite. So this is very old school. Yes,
it's very romantic, and there are a lot of great
movies on it as well. You might have seen Zero

(01:45:37):
doct thirty or maybe Bridge of Spies, of people going
out and building relationships and trying to convince people to
hopefully provide information. And I did that for about seven years.
It was absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Well, there's that it's human versus sigan. You got signal intelligence,
which is electronic gathering, electronic scooping up of information doesn't
involve human interaction. And that human intelligence component, which is
the old school way you're talking about, that's where you
were involved.

Speaker 14 (01:46:04):
Exactly right, and you know the line, that's exactly right.
Human intelligence, which means they're using people as sources of information.
It's really not much different than being a journalist. Instead
of asking about you know, Joe Burrows tow you might
be asking someone about Iranian nuclear missiles. So when those
are the topics that are involved, the dynamics become much different.

(01:46:25):
And that's when you need to really start thinking about
what you're doing and how you're meeting people, because you
need to protect the safety of both yourself and whoever
you're talking to as a source to get that information
and keep everyone safe.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Doesn't this require the target of your efforts to develop
these relationships for them to let their guard down, Because
if I'm in your role, I'm going to be painfully
aware of what I'm doing, which is I'm trying to
get my foot into the door in this person's world
so they trust me enough to hand off some information.
Aren't they in that position aware of people like you

(01:46:56):
out in the world trying to do that and so
their guard is perpetually up Or is this easier than
I might anticipate?

Speaker 14 (01:47:03):
Well, you know, it's a people business, right, and it
takes getting to know people and relating to people and
understanding what their life is like and what they might
need and where they're at with their personal journey. So
it's no different than you know, pulling up to a
bar and talking to your buddies or talking to your friends. Right,
you have to be a good guy to be able
to talk to people like that, and people know, right,

(01:47:25):
it's really not rocket science. If you can build friends
as a salesman or as a really just a friend
and being a good family member and a good person,
you're probably actually going to be pretty decent at talking
to people from the other side to find out what's
going on.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
How do you hone an awareness skill that like, for example,
I there's a double agent concept that person, let's say,
becomes aware or new from the get go that you
Eric Conroy, were actually a CIA operative of trying to
get your foot in the going to get information that
they don't feed you intentional wrong information or maybe give
you a little bit of accurate information which use some
comfort that they're speaking truthfully only to steer you in

(01:48:03):
the wrong direction. That kind of thing goes on all
the time as well, doesn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:48:07):
Well, you know, the intelli dis community as a whole,
think of it as like building a jigsaw puzzle, right,
and maybe me meeting somebody and finding out one piece
of information is going to go into a jigsaw puzzle
combined with a bunch of other sources like you mentioned
from sigan or imagery to con pile a picture on
a topic. So that is the goal of the intelligence

(01:48:28):
community is to gather information from a range of ways
and sources to build that picture on a topic. So
it's really never like a single single point of failure.
It shouldn't be right. It should be building that nosaic,
that jigsaw puzzle from a bunch of different angles to
find out what's really going on.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Well, and to the extent you were able to. And
I'm sure you're still bound by some secrets or confidential
audity rules or correct me if I'm wrong, if you're not,
But can you put an illustration together of how this
works a particular operation maybe you were involved with, or
how you got from point A to point B where
you can say, yes, I was successful in achieving the
goal that I was assigned to. Is it possible for
you to do that in a real context.

Speaker 14 (01:49:08):
I'll talk about it in a round about way. And
what what it is is, it's it's no different than
really being a salesman. Right, you have a sales process.
Let's say you have you have a lead for a
maybe to make a particular sale, and you meet that
person and you cultivate a relationship and you be friends
with them, and you try to figure out if one
you're you're going to be good friends, because that's first

(01:49:29):
and foremost how anything else in life works. But also
you figure out there's a good professional fit. So it's
really not much different than a sales cycle in a
lot of ways.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
So I'm trying to imagine this scenario. How you would
you would start this process. Are you placed in a
particular business or industry where you're assigned to a role as, oh,
he's the director of you you know, HR or something
which puts you in a position to interact with the
folks you're trying to spy on. Is this just like
running into someone at a bar kind of thing? You
know where they're going to be and you show up

(01:50:01):
and you're like, hey, can I buy you a beer?
I guess contextually speaking, I'm wondering how this process begins.

Speaker 14 (01:50:09):
Well, I mean, I'm not going to talk about too
many specifics because I can't go into too many details,
but it can arise in a very varied, varied ways. Right,
There are many different ways, so you can hopefully build
a relationship with someone and move it to the next level.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
This is I am thoroughly convinced, Eric, and I have
a feeling you're not gonna be able to answer this
one or all. But it seems so obvious to me.
We keep spending billions of dollars to keep the UN open,
and I keep wondering what we can show for the
money that we've spent, And the only thing I can
conclude is that it's a wonderful source, a resource for
us to gather secrets and information from foreign nationals, and
that's why we pay the bill. It's a spy operation.

(01:50:47):
Any truth that Are you going to dodge that one?

Speaker 14 (01:50:49):
Eric, The UN is a radical leftist institution that we
maybe consider cutting some funny for so I'm in that camp.
The UN has been particularly in did a lot of
things over the years. You probably use less funding as
opposed to more funding.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
All right, So I'm going to go with a yes
on that one as well. Like this, like the estate
Department answer, and now moving over to your campaign, ericconroyd
dot com. People get all the information and I hope Eric,
you and I'll be talking quite a few times before
next year's election because my listening audience and I would
like to unsee Greg Lansman and you may be demand
for the job. So if you really had to pinpoint

(01:51:26):
something that is near and dear to your heart, what's
driving you to run for Congress? Among all these issues transportation, infrastructure,
border security, neighborhoods, jobs, economy, what's Eric Conroy's main goal
to at once elected to Congress?

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Sure?

Speaker 14 (01:51:39):
Well, I have become concerned and passionate about the economic
and social trajectory of this region for some time and
believe we need the common sense representative to take it
into the future. Right, we just saw our incumbent Democrat
vote no to reopen the government along with this radical
leftist Cronius to gain really very little if any political

(01:52:01):
leverage in the process to appease their radical leftist base.
And to me, you just demonstrate that Greg Lansman is
not the moderate he claims. It's not the moderate Democrat
he claims, and he is unfit to lead. What we
need here is we need a leader to make common
sense decisions for this region and I hope to bring
that next year.

Speaker 5 (01:52:19):
And this is not Great Landsman.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
I agree completely with that. So as we move forward
toward the election, hopefully get Eric ond you get to
come on the program again. We'll talk about issues as
we move forward toward next year.

Speaker 14 (01:52:30):
Eric, Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
That's yes, all right. Got an ask out of Eric
Conroy Ericconroy dot com and log in tonight from home
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(01:52:55):
don't go way fifty five KRC after sixty years. So
did you hear? Yes? And those answers? I did. Hated
me to give him a hard time though, but come on,
State Department, Kaddy said, yeah, that's what we call ourselves,
members of the State Department. I had no doubt that
he would conclude that the CIA serves the American interest

(01:53:17):
in some capacity or another. Anyhow, fun stuff with Eric Conroy,
and we'll give him a fair shake since he is
running against Landsman, and I checked out his issues. He
seems to me in the right space, our right page
in terms of all the issues my listening audience cares about.
UH five. On three seven and two three Talk, we'll
be talking about the twenty twenty five US National Steinholding

(01:53:38):
Championships in the next segment with Mike Kisel, one of
the those German guy guys. Mike Kaisel is going to
return to the program along with Ben Huffman, the executive
director of the Cincinne Regional Sports Commission, putting Cincinnati on
the map. We don't need the Olympics now, we don't
need an NC two A final. We've got the twenty
twenty five US National Steinhold Holding Championships going on. It's

(01:54:02):
far more important and something that's frightening, truly frightening. I've
seen quite a few articles of late about grades. For example,
one that just recently showed up, just a couple of
days ago. Harvard says it's handing out too many a's students.
A little upset about that grade inflation a massive problem.

(01:54:23):
Harvard just one of just any number of schools, if
not all of them, who've inflated grades so sixty percent
of every graduate out of Harvard has got basically straight a's.
Harvard report on its undergraduate college found that about sixty
percent of grades were a's during the twenty twenty four
to twenty five high school year. Our school year, I
jumped from only twenty five percent a mere twenty years ago.

(01:54:49):
That's a problem. If you find Elisa Finley's off that
piece from the ninth of November, grade inflation produced Mom
Domni's proletariat. She had an interesting sort of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
Too.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
Many young college graduates are unemployed. They aren't willing or
able to do the jobs that are available. They went
and got a degree that is valueless in society, and
they realize they can't get a job, their dream job,
but they're unwilling to lift a finger of work. And
she says, you know, a lot of these young people
their parents pay for college and they can go work
in their live in their parents' house. But some of
them are going to have to actually go out and

(01:55:21):
work and it's really angering them. So, according to her
analysis October twenty twenty four, to thirty point four percent
of young people age twenty to twenty nine years old
who earned bachelor's degrees. We're not working. That isn't we're

(01:55:41):
not working in the field of their degree. It's they
just were not working compared with twenty one point nine
percent of those who had earned their associate degrees during
the same period, a lesser degree of course, more people
working though anyway. And then this figure that I read

(01:56:02):
article yesterday from David Storm. You see San Diego University
of California, San Diego incoming students can't do basic math.
Headline on that one, they says math professors are ringing
alarm bells about the disastrous decline in students' ability to
do even basic math. Get a load of this one.

(01:56:23):
Almost fifteen percent of incoming students, this is college incoming
college You see San Diego students cannot perform math at
a first grade level. Doubling down, Fewer than one in
five can even perform math at an eighth grade level.

(01:56:48):
Fewer than one in five. Now, going back to grade
inflation within colleges, isn't this an indication of grade inflation
in high school? If you got a diploma, which obviously
is a is a necessary thing to get into a college,
whether it's UC, San Diego, University of Cincinnati. You gotta
have that high school certificate. It suggests that you've done

(01:57:10):
work that brings you up to a grade twelve level understanding.
You know, you got acd's and SATs that used to
weed people out who didn't have that, But they don't
even use those anymore. So that's how you can have
college age kids who can't even perform math at a
first grade level. That there's one of them is insane
to me. How did that person get into college? We

(01:57:31):
are dumbing down America's young people. That may be intentional,
because you know, a domb young person who's afraid of working,
like the other articles suggested, who doesn't like the idea
of even working at all. That is a mechanism. As
she concluded, Great Inflation produced mom Dommy's proletariat the headline,
you end up voting for someone who promises to give

(01:57:52):
you free stuff and things because well, so far, I
guess things haven't worked out real well for you. And
sometimes the reason it didn't work out real well for
you look in the mirror. That's what high school was
four learning basic math. How did you make it even
to a freshman in high school if you can't perform
math at a grade one level. A twenty six fifty

(01:58:15):
five KR city talk station, beer Steinholding, the Nationals coming
to Cincinnati. Mi Kaislin Ben Hoffman up next, that we
can stick around fifty five. It's a thirty here, fifty
five krsity talk station. Something German must be going on
strek or putting on the German bumper music. Oh, that's right,
putting Cincinnati on the global Matt, Welcome to the fifty

(01:58:38):
five KRSSEE Morning Show. Welcome back, I should say, Mike
Kaisel from one of those German guys. Just search those
German guys on Facebook. You'll run into them and all
the German stuff that they're all about. And Ben Hoffman,
executive director of the Cincinnati Regional Sports Commission, joining the
morning show today to talk about the twenty twenty five
US National Steinholding Championship. Welcome gentlemen, it's great to have
you on the show today. Good Thomas en Ecaba, definitely man.

Speaker 15 (01:59:09):
Thanks for having us on. I appreciate it. It's always
good to get with you and talk about a little
bit in German heritage. And like you said, this is
more special than the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
It is. Who needs the NC two A or the Olympics.
It costs a whole lot of money. You're left with
a bunch of complexes you paid for that no one
uses anymore. And this does not require much beyond I guess,
just some space and some beer steins and of course
the beer that goes in it. But this is not
for novices. This actually is a difficult, difficult, challenging thing specifically. Okay,

(01:59:39):
let's talk about first. The US Steinholding Association. Is that's
actually a thing and it exists. Is this a global organization?

Speaker 15 (01:59:49):
It's a national here in the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
Okay, hence the name.

Speaker 5 (01:59:54):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:59:54):
So this German guy started with them.

Speaker 16 (01:59:56):
In twenty twenty one, we did the original State of
Ohio champions we've run it ever since then.

Speaker 15 (02:00:03):
Now you know, we've kind of moved around venue to venue.
The last two years we've been down at the beautiful
multi million.

Speaker 16 (02:00:09):
Dollar Moreline Launderhouse facility with Greg Hardman, and he really
helps us put on a show.

Speaker 15 (02:00:14):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
Well, and then we got go ahead, are you team
double them again this year for the event? Correct?

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
Correct?

Speaker 16 (02:00:22):
We did the state championship twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,
and then we put our hat in the ring because
there are other states that wanted the national championship, but
well and we were fortunate enough to land that here,
to bring that to the Cincinnati and Ben.

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
Huffman was a big.

Speaker 15 (02:00:39):
Part of that with the Cincinnati Regional Sports Commission.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
I appreciate Ben your work on that. And of course,
did our German heritage have anything to do with or
a lot to do with our getting this championship here
this coming up?

Speaker 15 (02:00:53):
Yeah, that to a degree, it does.

Speaker 16 (02:00:55):
I mean, you know they look at everything, you know,
Willie and I am this Terman guys, and.

Speaker 3 (02:00:59):
Then sleep with Greg.

Speaker 15 (02:01:01):
You know, we've really done a good job putting on
the state championship.

Speaker 16 (02:01:04):
So coupled that with the German heritage here in Cincinnati,
I mean, you know, it's kind of a win win,
and how can you go into place else? All?

Speaker 5 (02:01:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
Now, how does this competition work? It's taking place again
at the Moreline House on Saturday the twenty second are
the Is this a team sport? Is it an individual sport?
Are the different components of that? Are people still able
to participate? Let's get all the details of how this
actually works. I guess what does the event? Let's start
with what the event entails.

Speaker 5 (02:01:34):
Okay, so.

Speaker 16 (02:01:37):
We've had state championships all across the United States. There's
fifteen states that compete in this, and they've had people
that you know, qualified to compete at the state level,
and then the winners of the state competitions then proceed
to come here for the national championship. So this is
an individual sport. We have a women's division and a

(02:01:59):
men's division.

Speaker 15 (02:02:00):
So the winner of that here on.

Speaker 16 (02:02:03):
The twenty second for the national championship. This is the
inaugural national championship to us seineholding.

Speaker 15 (02:02:08):
This is the first one they've thought, so it's kind
of a big deal that we got at it as well.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 15 (02:02:13):
Whoever wins that.

Speaker 16 (02:02:14):
Yeah, men and women they get bragging rights as national
championship trophies and each the men and the women first
places four thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Oh cool, So boiling this down. If we show up
at this event, this is like showing up at the
first super Bowl. It is wow. Well, my dad had
a pennant from that one. He was at the first
Super Bowl and that was kind of bragging, right, So
are you guys gonna have T shirts for this event?
So we can all prove that we were there for
the first super Bowl of Steinholding.

Speaker 15 (02:02:46):
We do have T shirts available.

Speaker 16 (02:02:47):
We also have a commemorative glass leader Steins, as well
as pint glasses and coffee cups, so if you're not
a beer drinker or prefer coffee, we also have the
US Spineholding National championsh Coffee.

Speaker 15 (02:03:00):
Months as well.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
All Right, so, as I understand the week, the chaff
has already been separated ro out. This isn't something someone
can sign up for to participate in on the twenty
second you've got all the players there. Has this event
made it over to the sportsbook betting sites yet, fellas.

Speaker 6 (02:03:17):
No, not quite.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
I expect to see it there though. Hold on, I'll
tell you it because it is my version of the
final day of the week. Since I'm taking some vacation time,
I like to talk about this fun event. I would
have find out. Actually what the competition involves is where
a world record for this kind of thing? Let's pause
if you guys, don't mind them and bring it right in.
You've read about it in Obscure Sports Quarterly, you watch

(02:03:40):
it on the OCHO or of course talking about the
Steinholding events and coming up with the twenty second of
this month, the first Super Bowl of Steinholding, the twenty
twenty five US National Steinholding Championships. Joining me to talk
about this one of those Germans guys you can find
them on Facebook, Mike Heisel and Ben Huffman, who's the

(02:04:01):
executive director of the Sinceinn Regional Sports Commission. They've all
teamed up along with some other folks like, for example,
the more Line House and since Ant Chris Kendallmark to
do this championship, which we're all going to want to attend.
Before we can break down the events in the order
of things that are taking place on the twenty second, guys,
I got to ask, is there first a regulation? There
has to be a regulation sort of size weight stein.

(02:04:24):
It's uniform correct, correct?

Speaker 15 (02:04:27):
This your typical one leader.

Speaker 16 (02:04:29):
Glass templed stein, so those are all weigh the same
approximately when it's full of beer, it's five pounds. So
if your listeners aren't familiar with this, I know I've
been on before talking about it, you have to. You're like,
you have the leader stein sitting in front of you
on a table, the competitors standing behind the table. They
have to stand upright, pick up the beer steining with
either their left or right hand and hold it straight out.

Speaker 15 (02:04:51):
They're not allowed it been back they you know, can't
move the stein.

Speaker 16 (02:04:55):
It has to be you know, pretty much arm straight
holding that leader of beer steined out. One interesting thing
about this is Kim Planner has won the state championship
here in Ohio the past five years that we've done it.

Speaker 15 (02:05:08):
He also won this year, and he is qualified.

Speaker 16 (02:05:11):
He's representing he's from Cincinnati here and he's representing more
Line Loggerhouse in the national championship. So come down and
cheer Kim on and hopefully he can bring him the
national championship here to Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
Well do you And I hate to put you on
the spot, but I got to ask because I'm looking
at what is described, at least in terms of the
artificial intelligence response. I got on Google the US record,
what is his steinholding time? Do you recall buy any
bunny chance?

Speaker 16 (02:05:36):
Kim usually goes between nine and twelve minutes. They've had
some people in Texas go for as long as you know,
twenty twenty four minutes.

Speaker 5 (02:05:45):
But with the.

Speaker 16 (02:05:47):
US stineholding with they're pretty strict on the regulations on
your form, so they don't you know, allow you to
deviate as some of the other organizations do. So some
of the organizations are looking for time and they don't
really care about form. So the US Stineholding Association's pretty strict.

Speaker 5 (02:06:03):
On the judging with your form.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
That's great that they have these kind of rules. It
just cracks me up, guys, it really does. Now there
are steinholding or actually stein carrying events, and I noted
that at least online they say the Guinness War Record
for the most steins carried over forty meters, and you
mentioned they're five pounds each. Twenty nine steins is the

(02:06:28):
record for men and nineteen steins for women, and that's
a carrying. I just can't imagine that because I'm looking
at photographs of these guys with all these bunched up
steins that that can't be easy, but neither can the
competition you guys are doing, so it's not a carry contest.
Moving over to the twenty second I see that things
start kicking kicked off around ten am. Walk my listeners

(02:06:50):
through what they're going to be able to see and
participate in during the day.

Speaker 16 (02:06:54):
So we are going to have the FC Byron match
on from sc Byron's Munich soccer team. We're going to
have that in the fest tent. Greg is putting up
a huge festent. Like we said, this takes place during
the opening weekend of Cincinnati Chris Kenelmark.

Speaker 15 (02:07:08):
So I mean that's an event in and of itself
that you don't.

Speaker 16 (02:07:11):
Want to miss because they have German booze and food,
and you know, there's a bunch of stuff going on
with the Christmas market. You know, come down to your
Christmas shopping and enjoy the stiny. But we have the
Byron Match starting at nine point thirty. We also have
a riverfront volks March. Of volks March is just a
leisurely walk. You can sign up to do that. It's
five dollars per person to walk. It's about like a five.

Speaker 10 (02:07:33):
K on that.

Speaker 16 (02:07:35):
Then noon to two we had the Byron Games. We
did that when FC Byron came to town, and since
we're running the Byron Match.

Speaker 15 (02:07:42):
On TV, we're going to do that afterward. If your
listeners would like to participate in that, they can do that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
This is great.

Speaker 16 (02:07:48):
Before noon, there's three events. It's a beer decal flip,
you know, like the little beer coasters you stack those
up and you flip those and catch them, and whoever
catches the most without it hitting the table wins that event.

Speaker 15 (02:08:02):
Well, we're gonna do it as a team event. And
then we have that hammer slogging.

Speaker 16 (02:08:07):
That's where there's a stump and you take a hammer
and drive the nail into the.

Speaker 5 (02:08:13):
Stump.

Speaker 16 (02:08:13):
Fewst hits wins that. And then we also have a
team steinholding.

Speaker 15 (02:08:17):
So you don't really you can get a little bit
of a taste of it, being it's a team sport,
you know, the one person goes as long as they
can with the stein.

Speaker 16 (02:08:26):
When they're done, they set it down and their teammate
behind them kicks it up and goes on. And then
the winner of that will get bragging rights for the
Fyron Championship. Then after that, two to three we have
a ceremonial kaya of course you do, of course we do. Yeah,
of course, right, Greg is drilling his Chris Kendle beer,
so we're gonna tap that down at more Line.

Speaker 15 (02:08:48):
That's exclusive to Moreline Lockerhouse.

Speaker 16 (02:08:49):
It's a fantastic Christmas beer, so you're not gonna want
to miss that. Three to four we have the Celebrity
Steinholding Challenge, so Brian, if you're interested, we'd love to
have you come down and participate in that. We're gonna
have local celebrities go head to head, just in a
fun steinholding challenge for them.

Speaker 15 (02:09:07):
Then it gets serious.

Speaker 16 (02:09:09):
Four to six we kick off the national Steinholding women
go first, of course, and then after that we have
the men's national Championship.

Speaker 15 (02:09:19):
Followed by that we have an award ceremony.

Speaker 16 (02:09:21):
We are gonna have the DJ all day long playing music,
and then from seven to ten.

Speaker 15 (02:09:26):
We have a live band. We have Snightily Whiplash.

Speaker 16 (02:09:29):
And they're gonna perform and we're gonna close out the
party with them out in the fest tent.

Speaker 15 (02:09:33):
Now, Greg is putting up a huge fest hint.

Speaker 16 (02:09:36):
It has a wooden floor, it has heaters, so you're
gonna be cozy inside the fest tent. I mean, this
is just like a beer ten in Munich, Germany. It's
got a wooden floor and everything to it. It's gonna
have a bar inside. We have a planter from Munich
is gonna we have a plana on tap, and there's
food boots inside the tent as well, so you're not

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gonna wanna miss it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
It's a fantastic combat well, and I asked, just you're
to put all the details up at fifty five cars
dot com, the links how people can get the rundown,
and also helping you out in that event, help my
listeners out because it's going to be a hell of
a good time. Ben Huffan's been kind of quiet there
as a Cincinnati Regional Sports Commission executive director, do you
market this kind of thing? I mean, there's always little
things that point out that Cincinnati is a unique place,

(02:10:20):
it's a fun place. You might want to investigate it.
This is such a fun event, and I know it's
it's not necessarily done in Jess, but the Super Bowl
of Steinholding. Is this a good marketing effort for you?
And what other kinds of things do you engage in
throughout the year as Cincinnai Regional Sports Commission executive director
to put Cincinnati on the mac.

Speaker 6 (02:10:38):
Ben, Yeah, thank you so much so. The Cincinnai Sports
Commission started just this summer. We're brand new, we're six
months in. First week on the job. Greg Hartman called
me and talked about this event and our concept here
is to kind of own something on the banks of
the Ohio that is a tradition for the city and
there is a sports component, so we got involved. We
look at an event like Nathan's Hot Dog, like local

(02:11:00):
what they've done out there, that's been a you know,
recurring event that happens every year where people come in
and check it out. So we're trying to help blow
this up with those German guys, with the Moreland lagger House,
with the Steinholding folks truly make this a unique opportunity.
And then obviously on the back end from the sports
commission side, we do all sorts of amateur events. So
we have a big fencing event coming to the convention

(02:11:20):
Center in February, a volleyball tournament come to the comvention
Center in March, and then we're going after some large,
high impact events like the Rugby World Cup that just
got announced as we're an applicant city now for that,
so we are going up to those large impact events,
but unique opportunities like this to showcase our city is
a place that can host large events helps us long
term go after other things as well.

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
Yeah, and I suppose once that convention Center work it's done,
that's going to even create greater opportunities for folks to
consider Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (02:11:47):
Yeah, it's great, and that's actually a good tie in
with this event. So the Elm Street Plaza opens that weekend,
so the ice rinks moving from Fountain Square to Elm
Street Plaza. You know, this weekend, while the Steinholding's going
on Sunday, we have the Bengals at one, we have
Messi coming to play FC at five on Sunday, We've
got signholding on Saturday, We've got the Winterhouse at Fountain
Square opening, and just the Cities Beer Live. That whole

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weekend really showcase what we can do as a community
to host guests and I think help us both on
the tourism side, but then on the sports mission side
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
Yeah, and can I ask you FC Cincinnati. I'm a
no soccer football fan of I. I mean this just me,
but when the whole concept started, I was pleased that
didn't involve a tremendous amount of tax for your dollars.
But I you know, it's a little skeptical that was
going to work out. Apparently it has blown up. That
has Has it been more successful than you anticipated it

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to be?

Speaker 6 (02:12:39):
Just from your perspective, Ben, Yeah, I mean I think
there was a definite need for a soccer team in town.
I mean, we have so many young professionals that that's
their passion. Yeah, and the ability for that team to
win and invest and grow and do things up a
Tequel stadium is amazing. I mean, and then they host
so many other events. I had the opportunity to go
see the women's national team come in. You know, we're

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working from the sports mission side with the folks at
TIQOL and FC on other opportunities to use that venue
to again drive people downtown, spend money in businesses, and
they're definitely a community partner. So it's been They've been great.

Speaker 1 (02:13:14):
Oh it spurred some investment in the West End too,
so it's all, it's all been good. I am. You know,
I'm willing to take back some of the sort of
negative comments I made about it conceptually, because who am
I I'm just again, I'm glad it seems to be
working out, and I'm glad we are hosting the Super
Bowl of steinholding Championships again. All the information fifty five
carecy dot com. I hope you have as good a

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time doing the event, and I hope the event goes
off as well as I anticipated. It just sounds like
so much fun, Mike and Ben, and can't thank you
enough for sharing all the information with my listeners and
I today, and we'll be doing we'll be talking about
this again next year, although given now that there's going
to be more competition, this super Bowl will be moving
around from two different venues as it has before, as
these competitions for or we're keeping it.

Speaker 6 (02:13:56):
We've actually locked it in. We've locked it in for
a three year guarantee, three year right a versious usual
after oh again. Our concept here is to own this
in Cincinnati for as long as it makes sense for us.

Speaker 1 (02:14:06):
Absolutely love it, guys, thanks for the work you're doing.
Have a hell of a good time, and my listeners,
get on over to the event. You'll absolutely love it.
And get yourself a T shirt to say that you
were there and you were there for the first one.
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