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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Climbo five. I think about the r C the talk
station Tuesday said, well.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Come and think about it out in the cystom.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm being repressed.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Oh thank you, just recker. Wonderful selection of sound bites
that begin in the morning show. Given the chaos that's
going on in Los Angeles and spreading, and it's coming
to a theater near you, they see left will ensure
that that's going to happen. In fact, there's some love
articles and reports about exactly that coming to your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Brian Thomas right here, happy to be happy Tuesday to you.
Hope you have a good day. Get off to a
bad start here with it with the news, ediehow care
to comment? Feel free call me up five one three, seven,
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opens the phone lines. That'll be successful if you want

(01:20):
to engage in an effort to try to reach me.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Joe, Well, I was waiting for you to open the
phone line.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
There you go. Anyway, good lineup today. Thank you Joe
Strekker for doing it. Ken Cober is going to return
FLP President Ken Kober response to Sarah Herringer issue.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know the ankle monitor.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Was there a widespread report that this guy had cut
his ankle monitor off before he went and murdered Sarah's
husband after kicking the door into their home and stabbing
him to death. Not quite sure where he's going to
go with that. There is some updates on the whole
timeline for this murderer thug. Corey Bowman's going to be

(02:09):
in studio. Is Cincinnati State General question for Corey Bowman
running for mayor against they have to have pearl ball.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You have an option.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
You can continue with the status quo, or you can
choose someone else. And that's someone else is Corey Bowman.
I'm happy to have Corey back on the show at
seven oh five to discuss the safety of the city
of Cincinnati as widely reported. I mean since I inquire
reported crimes up forty eight percent and over the Rhine,
you know, and the city. You think about all the
money and effort the city engaged in, and the tax

(02:39):
abatements and the incentives to rehab all the housing that
was rehabbed, and over the Rhine to gentrify it, to
take it back over to get urban hipsters to move
into the city because it's going to be a walk
in community. Everything's going to be all roses and you know,
happiness and sunshine and puppy dogs and no crime actually
up significantly and over the rhine. It's a tragic thing.

(03:00):
I mean, you want the whole thing to be successful.
But we'll see what Corey has to say about that.
He's a West End resident himself. Sarah Wolf spearheading a
signature campaign for ending the property tax amendment here in
the state of Ohio. She'll provide information on where you
can sign up for that. You know, I kind of
I'm struggling to withhold laughter because you know, I don't

(03:24):
like taxes. Don't I hate my taxes? Might my property
tax bill it's insane. But you know, as I've mentioned
many times, the devil's kind of in the details. If
you end property tax, how are we going to restructure
the way things are funded. It's going to be an
interesting and very very complex reality as this rolls out

(03:48):
and as we move forward, But you know, let it happen.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Inside Scooba.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Breit Barton News immigration expert Neil Monroe and is going
to join the program in eight oh five with the
bright Bart inside Scoop. We'll talk about the riots in LA.
We'll talk about the fact that there are more planned
for Flag Day. Daniel Davis deve Daie. Of course the
latest in Russia and Russia launching a massive drone strike
just yesterday, So yes, there's always something to talk about

(04:16):
with that conflict anyway. June fourteenth, No Kings protests described
as a nationwide day of defiance to reject authoritarianism that
according to the events organizers. Co founder of an organization

(04:37):
called individual ezra l event, speaking of Newsweek, the goal
of the weekend protest to send a message that the
United States has no kings. I don't think anyone is
arguing that we do. But Trump's doing this military parade Washington,
d C. Interestingly enough, in spite of the fact the

(04:59):
website has more than fifteen hundred locations for this No
King's protest, not one in DC. Now, say what you
want about the military Excuse me the military parade. I
think it's a bad idea. Honestly, do we really need
to display our military hardware? Does anyone think that we

(05:19):
don't have military hardware? Is there a need to use
up all the resources and close down roads in order
to roll it down the street. Personally, I don't think so,
I really don't. I don't know what you benefit from
and other than to provide these idiots on the left
something to be pissed off about. I like to show
my support for the United States military each and every day,

(05:43):
and I don't think I need a parade showing our
military hardware to do that. And if it's rolling down
the street in a parade, you know, I'm just gonna
I know it's unlikely to happen. You never know these days,
what happened with Russia, and it's multi billion dollar bombers
sitting on the runway in a row. When the Ukrainians
decided they were going to smuggle some drones in in

(06:05):
order to blow them up, right, they blew them up.
Not that it's going to happen. And I'm sure there's
more security than you can shake a stick. Ad for
the military parade, but listen, it's all there right in
a row and therefore not easily deployable elsewhere where it
might be needed anyway, draw your own conclusions, but there
won't be a protest of no kings in Washington DC. Anyway,

(06:28):
according to this as a Levn guy, in term of
the No King's protest, you can figure it out on
your own, because I don't get it he's planning on
to roll tanks to the streets of DC and celebration
of his birthday. I don't think that's why he's doing it.
And that's kind of thing you normally wouldn't see in
a constitution of public certainly not in America. See, he's
spinning the reason for the parade. He said, it's something

(06:53):
you see in North Korea or other authoritarian regimes. Well,
you know, you may have a point on that. It
is something that the North Koreans like to do displaying
their military hardware, showing the rest of the world that
they have all of this military hardware. I mean, we're
the most powerful military on the planet. The whole world
knows how many nuclear weapons we have. It's regularly public information.

(07:13):
The tanks and the missiles and all the military bases.
It's everywhere easy to see. North Korea, the hermit Kingdom.
You might not think they have anything, so maybe they
have to do a public display to show that they've
got some rockets or something. Anyway, the point of the
protests coored to this Leven Guy, co founder of Individual

(07:34):
isn't just to show up and be covered And I
suppose he means by that by the media. This is
actually it's a quote here. This is actually to send
a strong message to the leaders and institutions who are
considering right now whether to capitulate or whether to fight
back question mark, And to send a message that this

(07:55):
that this period we're in right now, this period of
authoritarian breakthrough is temporary and democracy will reassert itself. Do
you know what that means? I don't coincides with Flag Day.

(08:16):
Levin said, it's critical, It's crucial protesters do not, in
his words, seed the narrative of patriotism or the ownership
of the flag to the right wing. I think it's
very important that we show up and we embrace the flag,
we demonstrate what patriotism actually look like, and we show

(08:37):
up and we show what plural plur Come on, Brian,
it's five o'clock. I'm waking up. Pluralistic trump, pluralistic, what
pluralistic democracy looks like? What does that mean? Just show up?
Are you supposed to have a sign? Does your sign

(08:58):
carry a message? What is the message you're trying to
convey here. I welcome everyone showing up and celebrating the flag.
I agree, yeah, no one owns the flag. It stands
for freedom. Whether you're a leftist lunatic or a right
wing conservative, the flag allows for both under one banner
of unity, a nation that allows for freedom of thought

(09:19):
and individual expression and ideas. If you want to celebrate that,
join the fund. That's what Flag Day is all about.
It isn't celebrating any particular politician. It's not celebrating any
particular party or political point of view. It's a flag
that celebrates freedom and the free exchange of ideas. Levin

(09:44):
further said, what we didn't want to happen on June fourteenth,
where counter protesters for that parade referring to DC and
why they're not going to be in DC for this
no Kings thing. We didn't want Trump to exe excuse
to crack down on peaceful protests. Well, see, you're making

(10:05):
it up. No one cracks down on peaceful protests. What
happens is you call in the National Garden and people
are burning buildings down, attacking police officers, throwing concrete at
ice officials who are enforcing the law. You don't send
in police unless you're looting stores and lighting the WAYMO
vehicles on fire. That's what leads to the crackdown, You idiot.

(10:31):
If you showed up and peacefully engaged in whatever this
organization is supposed to be supporting, No Kings and you
didn't commit acts of violence, there would be no response
by law enforcement. You're not going to show up in
DC with this group because you think they're going to
crack down if you actually peacefully protest. I think he's

(10:54):
trying to suggest this will not be peaceful protests. He
went for further to say we didn't want him to
have the excuse that peaceful protesters are protesting the military. Well,
if you're peacefully protesting the military, you're allowed to do that.

(11:16):
It was the entire point of all the Vietnam protesters,
wasn't it. You're protesting the military involvement in Vietnam. There
were a lot of peaceful protests during that era. He
went on, Instead, we want to create an alternative narrative
out in the country that Donald Trump is not all powerful.

(11:41):
Alternative narrative. Is anyone in my listening audience arguing that
Donald Trump is all powerful. Levin urged protesters to spread
the word and show up peacefully with their families, friends,

(12:02):
and neighbors. He emphasized the importance of having, in his
words every day, people who aren't professionally engaged in politics
to join the movement. What movement are you talking about?
We've got to face the fact that our political system
has broken down in one thousand different ways, and politics

(12:23):
is just too important right now to be left to
the politicians.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Word word word word word word word.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Now.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Apparently they had some protests back on February seventeenth. I
bet you don't remember that. No kings on President's Day.
Apparently we're held across this country and according to Fox News,
with a focus on demonstrating against Trump and Elon Musk
as well as the Department of Government Efficiency Task Force.
You're protesting the idea of ferreting out fraud, waste and

(12:58):
abuse in government and funding Sesame Street in Iran or whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
You know the list. We've been down at a multiple
multitude of times. And while you know, dog didn't effectively
eradicate a trillion dollars with a fraud, waste and abuse,
it did identify and we showed to the American people
what your labor, in the form of tax dollars was
being paid for. And I don't think there's that many
people out there in the United States, regardless of political stripe,
that thought it was appropriate to spend money on the

(13:24):
crap that they identified. You're gonna go out and protest that.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Someone can explain this to me, Feel free call me up,
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Speaker 4 (14:32):
Then all right, let's turn to Democratic Senator Chris Murphy,
a senator, one of the most powerful individuals in the world,
calling for nationwide street protests independent of the No Kings protest.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I believe.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Here's what Senator Chris Murphy had to say. My first
message is to keep it peaceful. I mean, obviously, this
is a moment where we have to be on the
streets all over the country to protest what's happening to
our immigrant community. You know, Donald Trump ran on kicking
the illegal immigrants out of our country. This was something
the American people embraced and still embrace. If you look

(15:08):
at the poles and if you know the ICE officials
are going after rapists, murderers, evil people, people who should
not have ever entered our country in the first place,
but who represent a safety risk to the American public.
Generally speaking, a rapist is not going to decide who

(15:30):
to rape based upon their political affiliation. They're just going
to rape. He went on, but more broadly to protests,
what's happening to our democracy again?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
To keep talking about democracy.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
As if it well, we live in a constitutional republic
to start with. This is the most corrupt administration in
the history of the country. And we're going to rise
to this moment by being out there on the streets.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
You see, it's a political rally. It is.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
It is a leftist Marxist political rally. This is you know,
they're taking it to the streets. They want to again,
they want to sew violence, an insurrection. I think they
want to invite martial law, which will really gin them up,
and I'm afraid that that might ultimately happen if you
get enough of these wacko leftists out in the street
that will ultimately get violent.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Then that may be what you see and see.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Don't forget the order of things that are going on
in Los Angeles. Why did the National Guard have to
get organized and caught up by Trump? Well, the Los
Angeles Police Department couldn't handle the matter. And the matter
was what violence against the Ice people. Ice shows up
to do their job and the pro illegal immigrant community

(16:52):
takes to the streets. Now, if they just stood idly
by and held their hands up and their protests sign
saying you evil Ice people, that.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Had been fine. But they didn't.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
They started throwing chunks of concrete and acting violently and
committing crimes. The situation devolved. Fires were start that way,
more vehicles were lit on fire, highways were shut down.
The LA Police Department couldn't handle it. So someone had
to bring about some order. And that's when Donald Trump
came in and sent the National Guard. They tried to
turn it on its head, as if to say he

(17:23):
sent the National Guard in to stop people from peacefully protesting.
They love to change the narrative. I'm listening. I'm not
dumb enough to allow them to pull that on me.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
He went on.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
But ultimately, I think the country sees what Donald Trump
is trying to do here. He's looking for a fight.
Oh no, it's not Donald Trump looking for a fight.
It's you inviting Donald Trump to a fight. That's you started.
That's the point of it. It's a Marxist playbook. They

(17:57):
want a strong law enforcement rear action. They argue that
they are there peacefully ignore if with the mainstream media complicit.
But they don't get away with that anymore because there's somebody,
these citizen journalists out there documenting the fact that there
are fires going on, that there are looting of stores
going on, that way, more vehicles are being lit on fire,
that there's live video right there of a guy throwing

(18:18):
concrete at ice vehicles driving by. They want the police response,
then they'll turn it into a George Floyd kind of thing.
This is just it's it's Marxist playbook, one on one stuff.

(18:39):
But you know, ultimately they think that the public is
going to generally embrace the protesters and react negatively against
law enforcement. Black Lives Matter tried to pull this constantly
demonizing entire police forces as inherently racist and all evil.
I mean across the board. They're evil. We need to
get rid of them. And when you get rid of

(19:02):
law enforcement, you get rid of law and order, which allows,
of course them to engage in the nefarious activities. I mean,
he went on, and all of it is nonsensical. There's
nothing in what he's doing that's about peace or about
restoring order. He said, Really, isn't that the point of
sending in the National Guard to stop people from burning

(19:23):
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Good to hear from me this morning as always morning.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Oh I'm just so glad our city isn't on fire
ye right yet yet? Hopefully hopefully it stays that way.
But as we as we've seen, there's enough idiot in
this town to start some crap too. So and then
you know, I acquainted all this the same ideas like
family and uh, you got different family dynamics, and there

(21:22):
always seems to be a kid that or two that
just acts up more than the others, and at some
point that that child's got to be brought under control.
And I know that's the landing was that the left
just absolutely hates that that you need to control. But yeah, yeah, actually,
as a parent or as and we'll we'll take this
over to the government. As a as elected official, you

(21:46):
need to sometimes exercise control over the citizens. And as
long as you're doing it according to the laws that
you that you have sworn uphold. And that's exactly what
what Trump and Ice and and the administration is is
attempting to do, is control these people. You want to
stand on the street and you want to stream at
the top of your lungs that you hate this or

(22:07):
hate that, go for it, Yeah, go do it, put
your signs up, whatever. But once you start throwing molotov
cocktails at anything, let alone law enforcement, you've crossed the line,
you've broken the law and someone needs to step in
and get you under control. It's that simple, it's common sense.

(22:27):
And but you have too many of these idiot people
who like to just make crap up at a thin air,
as you have stated here for the last twenty minutes,
they just make this crap up and just to try
to make it sound like the person who is doing
their job, who is enforcing the law, they're the bad guys.
Know they're not the bad guys. The person breaking the

(22:49):
law is the bad guy, and that person needs to
be arrested. That person needs to be dealt with. Nobody
wants this to happen. But what's the alternative? Just let
crime run them up, Just let people do whatever they
want to do. Is that really what you want? And
you know, you got idiots like like Gavin Newsom. Leave

(23:10):
the kids alone? What kids? What the ones that are
being raped by the illegal immigrants? Is that what kids
you're talking about? I mean, you know, And then you
got an idiot on TV Sonny Houston. Being undocumented is
not illegal, Excuse me. That is exactly what it means.
It's just a way of describing people who are here
in this country.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Illegally.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I know she's gotta know better than that done. That's stupid. Really,
these people and this Chris Murphy thing. Yeah, he's he's
a Democrat. It's that simple. That's the explanation for their stupidity.
They're Democrats. They're either intentionally trying to mislead people so
they can get their way, or they're completely ignorant one

(23:52):
of the two. There's no common sense in that party
at all, whatsoever. We've documented our issues we have with
with Republicans in the party, but come on, that's just
beyond ridiculously stupid then what these people are doing and
what they're saying. So once again, another reason more proof
don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Have a great day, Ryan.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Thanks Tom. Never get tired of him calling. It's so enjoyable, Jay,
I never get tired of you calling you that. You're
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Speaker 9 (25:42):
Hey, thanks Brian.

Speaker 10 (25:44):
Hey wanted to build on your comment about the property
tax and if it goes away, Yeah, the devils into
details of what are we going to use to fund everything?

Speaker 9 (25:55):
I'm going to reverse the logic, or at.

Speaker 10 (25:57):
Least attempt to because my track wreck on wins and
losses with who he isn't great. But we pick ourselves up,
we dust ourselves off.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah it mark and forward.

Speaker 9 (26:09):
Okay, here it comes.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (26:11):
If we take a look at the states ranked by GDP,
Ohio's number seven, Pennsylvania's number six. Our annual budget is
like one hundred and twenty billion dollars. Pennsylvania is forty
five billion dollars with the GDP. That's one hundred million
bigger than Ohio's forty five billion dollars. At Pennsylvania funds

(26:34):
their entire state with is equal to war Medicaid spend
every year at a fifty percent improper payment rate. So
let's just say twenty billion in waste, fraud and abuse.
I know the number keeps coming around a six billion,
A fifty percent of forty is not six And that
fifty percent number came from the said, all right, well,
I think I think the reason we're spending all this

(26:57):
stupid money on six hundred million dollars for the rounds
and everything else because there is no controls and they'll
spend every dollar that you give them if we take
away property tax, and that's going to force them to
get smarter, just like every private business has to do.
Private businesses aren't asked go figure out what you're going

(27:17):
to cut, and then we're going to cut it. Private
businesses say, look, folks, revenue and profits down, we're cutting it.
You're going to have to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I'm not arguing with your point that we spend too
much in the state on stuff and things generally speaking,
I mean, I can't argue against the idea that we
have massive fraud, waste, and abuse, most notably Medicaid, but
I'm sure a lot of other places. But funding for parks,
and funding for schools, and funding for this, that and
the other thing. Take a look at your property. I
have tax bill. It goes to all types of different

(27:47):
things which many people will argue are worthy of funding.
If you take away property tax as the mechanism for
funding these things, how do you replace it.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's the only thing I'm asking you don't so you
don't fund parks? You don't?

Speaker 10 (28:03):
I mean, well, there is it not a reality that
we may be to a point where we can't afford it.
Just like a household or just like a business, there
gets to be a point where you have to prioritize
that you have money to spend on. You don't start
with here's what we're spending money on. Now where are
we getting the money from?

Speaker 4 (28:19):
But okay, let let's look, let's just i mean deal
with the reality that let's say the vast majority of
people in Hamilton County enjoy the parks, and they certainly
need maintenance upkeep. They have to be staffed on some level.
Somebody's got to cut the grass, for example. So let's
just use that as an illustration. How does that get
funded in the absence of property tax? You take that
away as a funding mechanism. Where does the money come

(28:42):
from for things that people actually want government to provide
the private sector?

Speaker 10 (28:49):
The problem is everybody wants government to fund everything.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
No no, no, no no no no no no no
no no. Government has to fund some things because.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
Like parks and recreation.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Well where why not King's Island.

Speaker 10 (29:05):
I would enjoy it if I got a free ticket
because I live in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
To go to King's Island.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
That's a private industry. It's a private business. Parks are
not money making entities. Parks don't generate revenue.

Speaker 9 (29:16):
Those are the Cleveland Browns, don't.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I mean, you can't do the Cleveland Browns in this
Nobody says. You heard me a million times said there's
no way state tax dollars should go to fund a
private organization.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
But parks very clear.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
But parks, however, we could pay an admission fee to
get into a park. I mean, that's an alternative. And
that's what would happen if you take away the property
tax mechanism of funding. So every time you go in one,
you got to pay money.

Speaker 10 (29:43):
Or we could go get twenty billion dollars out of
Medicaid fraud, which they haven't been able to roll up
their sleeves. And to your credit, we've heard Fabor he's
had a chance, called the attorney generals, they had a chance.
I heard Jennifer gross On. It Finally sounds like they're
getting some momentum. But what I find disturbed thing is
there's yet another Oversight Committee on Medicaid or somebody. We

(30:04):
have a joint Medicaid Oversite Committee. How many oversites do
we need to have? All of that is funded, So
let's just focus on Brian. Here's what I would say,
simple answer to your question, go after medicaid first. There
are twelve to twenty billion dollars sitting there to fund
any damn thing, and.

Speaker 9 (30:19):
We are worse in the country. So let's start there.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
I see, because if you took half of that, if
we took half of that forty billion, which is twenty billion,
guess what you can fund primary secondary education? Because it's
a twenty billion dollar line item in the state budget.

Speaker 9 (30:33):
There's the answer. You can fund it out of medicaid fraud.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well, wait a second, If public education is a twenty
billion dollar line item in the state budget, why are
you and I paying for public schools in our property tax?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Clearly it's not enough.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Isn't Well?

Speaker 10 (30:50):
Who we'll hang on if somebody was on your program,
or when maybe it was some other somebody else's program.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
I apologized.

Speaker 10 (30:55):
They went around and took a look at all the
slush fund, all the money that all these public schools
are hanging going onto because they think that that's their money.
In some cases they have invested it, so they take
in more than they spend. They've invested it, and they
think there's another forty billion out there with public schools
acting like a business and not understanding that's taxpayer money,
taxpayer money. Dave Thomas stab Representative, if you have him on,

(31:19):
he'll talk to you about that, because he's been doing
some good work of one after it and getting these
slush funds back out of these public schools. There's another
forty billion. I think the number one, or maybe it
was four billion forty A hell of a lot of money.

Speaker 9 (31:30):
I think it was four billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Well, you're identifying to see all the layers and complexities
involved in the discussion, which is all I'm saying. I
think it would be kind of hilarious if it happened,
if we did eradicate property tax. I would enjoy the
reaction and the chaos from our elected officials and trying
to figure out how to solve this problem. Maybe they

(31:52):
would go after fraud, waste, and abuse. Maybe they would
go after the so called slush funds that you're identifying.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Maybe it would all happen. I don't know. I'm just
saying it's going to be plex We solved.

Speaker 9 (32:02):
It in twenty seconds. It's not complex.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Now.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I think it actually is more complex than you you're
boiling it down to. But you know, that's why you
call in, Jay, to disturb the pot of discussion and create,
you know, you know, ideas about how we would deal
with it if it happened. I'm not advocating against the
constitutional amendment. I'm just saying it's going to be complicated,
that's all. I'm just waiting to see how it gets

(32:26):
worked out. But I appreciate your calls, Jay, I really do.
These These are why we have callers calling in, to
have this exchange of ideas and to get people's intellectual
juices flowing and think about the consequences of how things
might be if we got rid of it. That's not
me advocating against the legislature or the ballot initiative. It's

(32:50):
just pondering what the world and the state's going to
look like in the absence of property taxes. And again,
I hate my property tax bill. It's insane. Appreciate it, Jay,
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Speaker 4 (35:18):
Go go straight to the phones. Corey's on the line. Corey,
thanks for calling this morning.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Happy Jesday. Brian Hey.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
Going off what Jay was saying, I think the answer
to it is to funded like it was funded pre
nineteen thirteen for Walter Wilson under a consumption tax. Prior
to then, there was no income tax, there wasn't no
property tax.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
It wasn't this or that.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
I think that's the solution to it.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
So I'm away.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
When people get the big.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
Bill what they're spending their money on, Yeah, they'll be
against all these taxes. That seems like every levee that
passes every year, every school tax is always increased. They
hardly ever get rejected because you're always spending someone else's
money until it affects.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
You personally, right, not non property owners will vote for
tax levies because they're not impacted by it necessarily. I mean,
it does impact the cost of rent if they are renters,
because the landlord, of course has to pay the property
tax for the property. Ultimately people pay for it. But
consumption tax, that's a sales tax, and I've got no
problem with that. And then the county commissioners will establish

(36:21):
what the sales taxes in order to keep the Hamilton
County parks and recreation funded adequately so people can enjoy
the parks not having to pay a fee to get in.
And then everybody will bitch and complain and moan about
the property or about the price of sales tax going up.
But at least everyone who buys anything in any given
county will be shouldering the burden of whatever county services
are being offered. So yeah, there is a that's a logical, reasonable,

(36:43):
rational explanation of how to keep things funded. But that's
what you're going to expect. I mean, this is why
we talk about this. Okay, Voting to end property taxes
may result in your local sales tax going up. That's
a reality, and it may be a fairer reality, but
you're gonna have to cope with it good point, Corey,
shit the call man. This is how we walked through things.

(37:04):
So yesterday's stack is stupid, which I didn't get to
because we were all talking about issues today. I'll get
to at least one story in the remaining moments of time.
Here we go to Sioto County, Ohio, where fu Siota
County thort he's looking for a thief, described an unusual attire.

(37:24):
Sheriff's office there said they received a call from an
employee at a Dollar General about seven amployee said that
he came to work the morning found someone had broken
into the business by shattering the front glass and the door.
Deputies and officers showed up at the store. They said
they saw a trail of blood, as well as a
trail of women's underwear that had been taken from the store.

(37:45):
Trail of underwear led from the business. It's like breadcrumbs,
Sheriff's office said. Surveillance cameras caught the man wearing nothing
but what appeared to be white underwear or panties and
a cape.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Why are you doing that to steal underwear?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Suspect broke through the front class door before walking straight
to the female clothing section. And grabbing several packages of
panties and bras.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Fisial said.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
The suspect then left the store on foot, leaving a
trail of bras and panties away from the store toward
the roadway. Detectis recovers some evidence from the scene and
send it in for testing. Does that mean they seize
the panties and underwear trail items? And what do you
think they were testing for. They're asking you to contact

(38:45):
the police department if you have any additional information on
the suspect involved. That'd be the guy with the underwear
and cape.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Amen, Brother. Five to five five K Steve Talk Station.
Ken Kalber is going to join us at six thirty
FOP President on the Sarah Herringer outrage since her husband
was murdered by a guy who was supposed to be
wearing an ankle monitor who had previously committed a robbery.
Oh that's a terrible case anyway. Ken's gonna be talking
about that in the police response to what they knew.

(39:15):
That'll come up at six thirty. We'll have more time
to talk between now and then. Feel free to call in.
I'll be right back.

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(39:59):
always enjoy your from Christopher Smithman on fire. He definitely was.
And we'll be talking about that very topic, the the
Henninger or Herringer murder, Sarah Harringer. And we're going to
get Ken Kober, the FOP president, on the program at
the bottom of this hour to talk about the police
response and what they knew about this murderer thug, how

(40:21):
it is he was able to cut off his ankle
bracelet and not get arrested, although apparently a warrant was
issued for his arrest, but he committed a crime prior
to kicking in the door and murdering Sarah's husband. It's
just such a tragedy, really is a tragedy. Anyway, going
back to the LA riots and the insane statements from

(40:41):
the left on this, from Governor Newsom and all the
way over to Kamala Harris, she's just a looney bin.
Plus Democratic Senator Chris Murphy who's coming so I was
mentioning in the last hour.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
He also mentioned he goes.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
About Trump's response to this, and remember the order of things.
You have protests against ICE doing its job. Now that
Los Angeles doesn't want to help ICE do its job
doesn't mean that ICE isn't allowed to go and do
its job. They're a federal authority. They're allowed to go
and arrest illegal immigrants, and they are focusing on the
worst of the worst among the illegal immigrant population. They

(41:23):
haven't been dispatched to go pull out children from families.
They've been dispatched to go out and get the worst elements.
Gang members, criminals, known criminals, convicted criminals, rapists, murderers, thieves, thugs,
you name it. But the fact that they're doing their
job is what led to the so called protests which
got violent, requiring the police to respond. LA Police was

(41:44):
incapable of dealing with it. To the sheriff there, I mean,
the chief of police in LA even said, so Trump
sends a national guarden to protect buildings and property, and
so they people get outraged, and so they want to
blame Trump for the violence that they started. And going
back to Chris Murphy's comments, I mean, the people in

(42:05):
Los Angeles over the weekend will tell you that ninety
nine percent of them went about their day and it
was it was pretty normal. Because this is not an
invasion that's taken over the entire city. Well, that's a
point I made yesterday. A city of multiple millions of people,
there were thousands of protesters. It was a fraction of

(42:25):
the population. If the entire city went out and protested,
you'd have a much different, you know, vision of things.
So it didn't take over the entire city. I don't
think anyone's making the argument that it did. But it
took over a sufficient swath of the city and property
was being damaged, stores were being broken into, waymo vehicles
were being set on fire, and they did shut down
Highway one oh one, a vital artery. You know, ambulances

(42:52):
can't drive when the highway's shut down. So you look
at the people who might have been impacted by that,
and it was a lot people just trying to get
to work. The the ninety nine percent who weren't involved
in the riots or the protests, whatever you want to
characterize them at their lives were impacted if they had
to use the highway. Chris Murphy, he's trying to turn

(43:13):
a protest that is pretty small into something that involves
even bigger confrontation so that he might actually be able
to invote the Insurrection Act. That will be a defining
story of the week if he were to do it. Well,
if you're not dealing with the criminal elements, somebody's got
to deal with the criminal element. And if your police
department is overwhelmed and it was, and you can't handle
the bad guys that are out there chucking rocks at

(43:35):
ice for trying to do their job, then they might
need some assistance. And pivoting over to the Wall Street Journal,
proving my point in terms of what the public probably
ultimately proceeds, which is they want law and order, editorial
board rights. Will democrats ever learn a political lesson on
immigration and crime. It doesn't appear so, judging from the

(43:56):
response of the migrant protests the Los Angeles that turned
violent Sunday night, us on the streets will increase public
support for a hardline restrictionist agenda.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Protests against Trump's immigration raids escalated Sunday evening as activists
torch cars, looted businesses, and occupied a major freeway. Law
enforcement and immigration officers were pelted with rocks and fireworks.
Activists also smashed concrete ballards outside federal buildings where they
were protesting, using chunks as weapons. California Governor Gavin Newsom's
response on Monday sue Trump over his order deploying the

(44:31):
California National Guard to Los Angeles to protect federal property
and officers. Governor claimed the calling the troops was inflammatory,
but recent history suggests that protesters don't need provocation to
turn violent. Recall how the Antifa crowd, another extremist hijacked
protest after George Floyd's death in twenty twenty. Ditto anti

(44:53):
Israel protesters at the University of California, Los Angeles that
turned bloody after the Dodgers World Series victory last autumn.
Revelers looted businesses, towards city buses and hurled fireworks and
police officers who tried to bring them under control. The
current cast isn't a surprise in a city and state
that too often tolerate lawlessness. Still, it wasn't clear early

(45:16):
Sunday whether the deploying the troops was necessary would be constructive,
but asked late Sunday if the National Guard were needed,
LA Police Chief Jim McDonald responded, quote, well, looking at tonight,
this thing has gotten out of control. Close quote all
this would please Stephen Miller. The White House deportations are
who was eager for such confrontation within a sanctuary city.

(45:39):
Now Democrats are playing into his hands by soft peddling
the violence. Mister Newsom and the city's Democratic leaders could
have tried to douse the flames by denouncing the violence
and stressing the lawbreakers would be arrested. Instead, they're blaming
Trump for their own failure to maintain orders. Mister Newsom tweeted,
quote one law enforcement didn't need help, okay. Two Trump

(46:01):
sent troops in any way to manufacture chaos and violence.
Three Trump succeeded. Four Now things are destabilized. We need
to send in more law enforcement just to clean up
Trump's mess. Notice the focus on Trump. Trump did it.
Trump's the one that was chucking concrete. If the Ice
agent says they were driving by trying to enforce immigration
laws on the books. Remember the guy that was throwing

(46:24):
those rocks. They had him on video. That was Donald Trump.
You didn't realize that. You thought he was in Washington,
d C. Doing other things. Anyhow, that explanation. Newsom's explanation
may resound in mister Newsom's liberal echo chamber, but I
won't sit well with most Americans who have little patients
for disorder. Trump already escalating by sending in the Marines

(46:46):
sensibly to protect federal buildings. Mister Newism said, the president's
calling in the National Guard is an unmistakable step toward authoritarianism,
which is transparent hyberbally. The rarely use law Trump and
vocal such a deployment when quote there is a rebellion
or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the
government of the United States. Rioters are certainly rebelling against

(47:11):
the authority of the Immigration Enforcement that's ICE, that's part
of the government of the United States. They're trying to
do their job without assistance from the Los Angeles Police Department,
without assistance from Los Angeles County authorities. But they're still
doing their job. Other cities will assist ICE in its
effort to capture and round up violent, criminal, illegal aliens.
They choose not to do it, but that does not

(47:32):
prevent ICE from going in and doing its job. They
can't stop that. That's the insurrection we're talking about. Sorry
for interjecting, editorial Board, I just feel the need to
get it out of my system. The airwaves and social
media are saturated with footage of protesters waving Mexican flags
atop burning cars, carrying signs claiming California is stolen land,

(47:54):
and chanting we don't want ICE or police. Note the
extension of the defund the police movement that's literally going
on right now, ICE and a law enforcement agency. Effectively,
this is the leftist Marxist, anti police, anti authority, anti
control movement full display right now, going on to Los

(48:16):
Angeles and elsewhere. I mean, they're gonna see it here
in Cincinnati. I'm sure they got a protest, probably already schedule.
Just wait for it. It's gonna happen. Question is how many
people are gonna show up. Mister Newsom really is living
in law Island if you thinks Americans will side with
such radicals over mister Trump. Mister Newsom and his Democratic

(48:36):
friends could show sympathy for law abiding immigrants and snared
in the raids while also condemning the violence. It is
in their own interest to do so, since continuing violence
will boost public support for mister Miller's project to deport
every illegal migrant and legal immigration too. Maybe one of
these days Democrats will learn their automatic unqualified anti Trump

(48:59):
resist instance helps him. Yeah, that's the point. People prefer
law and order. People want to be able to use
the expressway unimpeded by activists who run out in the
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Speaker 4 (51:51):
It's six twenty one right now. Looking forward to having
Ken Kover back on the program. FOP President Beyond the
next segment, responding to Sarah Herringers complaints about her husband
being murdered in their home. Justifiable complaints given the background,
but not quite sure what the police department knew about
this guy after he cut off his ankle monitor. I'm
looking forward to having him. I hope you are a

(52:12):
can stick around for that. And related to nothing going
on in the world, except that I found this rather preposterous.
And if you've been around the internet long enough, you
know there's a lot of crazy jerks in the world.
I have literally seen videos posted by people who do
obnoxious and quite often disgusting things in hotel rooms. Now,
you go to a hotel room, right, looks pretty clean.

(52:35):
How clean do you think it is? You have a
paid employee who's probably not paid enough responsible for cleaning
up things and making sure things are quote unquote disinfected
or rather way. How clean do you think they really
care about that? Is it just visually clean or they
really do a great job of cleaning it like you
might do in your own home. I mean, how comitted

(53:00):
are they to doing that job? Think about anything that
is in a hotel room. How often do they wash
the bedspread for example? I know they change the linens,
at least they're supposed to. But the coffee maker, Yeah,
I've seen some videos of people doing some perfect things.
Are coming and they're gonna use a hotel coffee maker. Ever, again,

(53:23):
there's some real twisted people out there. The remote control
for the television, We could go on and on anything
that you might touch, and I think it highly unlikely
that the hotel staff are taking steps to ensure that
all of that stuff has been wiped down and disinfected.
So you may think I'm paranoid, but that's just the reality. Again,

(53:46):
social media reveals it to all. They people think it's
funny to do gross things. And we go to Maine
with that background, Bill Maine's going to mandate hotels get
rid of small single use bottles containing well like your shampoo.
Here you go, there's that little tray and each one's

(54:06):
never been opened, is enough for just one use and
then you throw it away. Well, that's plastic, and that's
going into the landfill, and they want to get rid
of that.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
The bill prohibits.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Lodging established from establishments from providing personal health or beauty
projects in small use plastic containers to persons staying in
a lodging establishment or within the bathrooms shared by the
public and guests of the lodging establishment. That's according to
the bill. Hotels, motels, resource, bed breakfast, ends, timeshare, property,
short term rentals, you name it. This starts in twenty thirty.

(54:41):
Lodging establishments when more than fifty rooms will not be
able to provide toilet your bottles under six ounces.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Now.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
The response to this, and it's been enacted in other states,
is to use a larger pump sized bottle, which means
it's going to be there for you to use, and
then it's going to be there for the person who
checks in the hotel room after you to use, and
so on and so on, which reminded me of a
story I had a prankster in my fraternity house and
he loved pulling pranks on his roommate. One of the

(55:10):
pranks he pulled was to replace the shampoo, or at
least add to the shampoo. I believe it was dishwashing detergent,
which is pretty harsh. And Tom, his roommate, whose shampoo
was was adulterated by this prankster. His hair turned to

(55:31):
straw and he couldn't figure out why his hair was
kind of well straw like that's because the shampoo had
been tampered with. No one can only imagine something like
that happening or maybe even worse with the used and
use and use again depending on who the guest is
in the room, all the name of getting rid of
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Speaker 4 (58:02):
At six thirty fifty five care City Talk Station, A
very happy uh Tuesday to a Corey Bowman running from mayor.
Gonna be talking about whether the city is safe. Coming
up at seven oh five in the meantime, Welcome back
to the fifty five Carriacy morning. So it's always a
pleasure to have the FOP President Ken Kober joined the program.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Ken, welcome back, my.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Friend, Thanks Brian, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
I wish it was under better circumstances. Obviously, no one
is happy that Patrick Heringer was murdered, and Sarah Heninger
is all over social media and you know, complaining, and
you know about the mayor, the police department, the Ohio
Adult Parole Authority. He was released from custody. I guess
he had served his time, but put on an ankle monitor,

(58:42):
which he cut off in February. Then he committed a
burglary sometime I guess in May, and then he murdered
Patrick Heninger just a last week.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Can you address some of her concerns? I guess the
first concern of question is these ankle monitors, how closely
are they monitored? And how can someone cut off their
ankle monitor and authorities not be aware of it? Or
were authorities aware that he did cut his ankle monitor
off and out looking for him? Was were you aware

(59:14):
of it? Were the police department aware of it? You
get where I'm coming from, And I'm sorry to ramble,
but it is sort of a puzzling mystery question that's
floating around out there.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Ken No sure, I mean your first I can't imagine
what this woman's going through right to deal with this,
having your own husband get murdered in his own home.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
It's just it's just, Yes, it's senseless and hard hard
to imagine, it really is.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I know, the Adult Parole Authority did put out a
statement yesterday saying that they had been looking for him
since February. To my knowledge, no one in the police
department knew that he had had his ankle monitor cut off,
but and that that might be part of a bigger
discussion in the future. If if you've got parolies that

(59:59):
are at law or that are running around in a
particular jurisdiction, maybe it is appropriate that you know, they
start notifying, you know, certain agencies to let them know, Hey,
you've got this guy that's dangerous and he just did
nine and a half years for folonious assault and aggravated riot.
Why did we not know? You know, that's typically not
the responsibility of a local jurisdiction. It is for the

(01:00:21):
Adult Role Authority. But I can only suspect that they're
probably in the same boat that the Cincinnati Police is,
which is we're one hundred and thirty cops short, so
they have limited resources just like we do. Not trying
to make any excuses, just trying to clarify why some
of these things probably happened.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Yeah, and one of our complaints. And you know, I
understand the difficult position the sinsint police departments and so
just moving away from the pearl authority and whether or
not they knew he was out or had cut his
ankle minitor off. You usually are responding to criminal acts. Now,
your presence may events something from happening, but the general

(01:01:02):
public doesn't know when you were capable of that. When
something doesn't happen, they don't realize or know in any
given cert circumstances because of your presence. That's the reason
a crime didn't occur. But if a crime occurs, that's
when nine to one one is called, and that's when
you show up and try to arrest the bad guy
or otherwise deal with the situation. I get the order
of things. But she was critical of the lack of

(01:01:23):
police presence in the neighborhood and made a claim that
in the district there was only maybe. She pointed District
one covers four neighborhoods, Clifton, Mount Adams, West End and OTR.
She wrote each may have only one officer per zone.
That's it. Now, is there any accuracy to that? I know,
your short staff, but one officer in District one at

(01:01:44):
any given time, is that is that accurate?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
There are nights where it is like that, Oh my god.
And that's that's the reality of being short. You know,
I worked in District one back in twenty eleven, twenty twelve,
and there were back then we only had three beats
and there were nights where there were only two or
three of us working. And that's that's the reality. When

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you're so short staffed, you're spread thin. And you know,
especially this time when we're talking like four o'clock in
the morning. So a District one has two different shifts
that work at night, and the one shift gets off
at four o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
In the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So now all you have from four am until six
am when day shift starts as an even smaller crew
of people. And that's that's the unfortunate reality of where
we're at.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
That's that's hard. That's difficult to imagine. I mean, the
the the the visible presence of police, I think is
an important thing to present the the the the perception
of a safe community good. We have police officers patrolling around.
There's one right there, but there's only one in that

(01:02:56):
entire geographic area. No one's going to ever see that
one police officer who's probably already responding to a call.
Because you're talking about late night hours, isn't that when
most of the bad things actually happen?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Ken, You know, late late at.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Night, early mornings like that is typically when you do
have a lot of breaking and enterings things like that,
because there's less people out on the streets, so that's
when a lot of people are lurking, you know, looking
to break into stuff. So, I mean, it's just it's terrible.
But that's unfortunately where we are, which is why I
was in front of city council yesterday asking them to

(01:03:34):
take action and have a lateral class where we can
get officers that are already experienced, get them through an
abbreviated academy, and get them on the streets so they
can start making a difference, because having one class every
nine months isn't cutting it. We're not able to keep
up with attrition because we have so many people that
are leaving.

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Fifty five KRCD talk station trying to make it a
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with Ken cover fof President Sin Saint Police Departments representatives
for the police union. So can you appealing to city
council to get more enforcement officers on the street. You're
down over one hundred more people retiring, and I know

(01:07:06):
that's a phenomenon and I understand, and you can feel
free to chime into the subject. Police morale is not
very high right now generally speaking, so feel free to
comment on that if you like. So you're in front
of city Council and you're asking for an additional I
don't know, recruit class. What was the reaction from council members?
Did they agree with you or suggest they would do

(01:07:28):
something about it. I presume this is a matter of budgeting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
It is, and that's why they have their original budget.
And then yesterday and Budget Finance they were doing their
adjusted budgets and actually counsel and Seth Walsh's one that
came to me and said, listen, how much money do
you need for this class? It's important, we need the
city to be safe. What do you need? And I
started to talk to some other council members that it
was met with support. So I'm hoping that it's going

(01:07:55):
to be in the final budget. I would suspect that
it's going to be. But the reality is we're about
nine hundred and thirty nine thirty five right now by August.
By August, we're projected to be below nine hundred people.
Oh no, so I mean that's that's the reality. We
had three retirements last week, we had three resignations two
weeks prior to that. You lost ninety two people last year.

(01:08:19):
We're probably gonna lose close to that amount this year.
And having a class of only fifty or sixty once
a year is not helping. And to talk about morale, yeah,
morale is certainly a challenge. You know when you have
officers that are you know, being asked to work on
their off days come in because they're so short that
they need to fill these gaps with overtime. You have

(01:08:40):
some officers that work in our there are a SWAT
team and our Civil Disturbance Response team that work every
Friday and Saturday. They work every event, and it's just
it's getting to the point where it's exhausting and something's
got to give. And the way to fill that gap
is to start having these lateral classes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Well, okay, now, I am glad that you were not
met with oppositions. So the whole idea of defunding the police,
it didn't appear to be the attitude you were met with,
which is that that's that's upheld, that's helpful, and that
that's a positive thing. But in terms of being able
to get police or individuals to join the police force,
is that going to be a problem because you know,

(01:09:16):
with all this anti police sentiment out there, and the
and the hard work that you have to deal with
in the community every single day, and how dangerous it is,
that's not a job that a lot of people gravitate toward,
especially with this whole you know, public anti police sentiment
that's brewn around out there. So are you if you
if they said we're going to have five classes this year,
would actually be able to fill the roles given that

(01:09:37):
a lot of people don't even qualify to be police officers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Well, the lateral classes, those are already officers that are
that are certified police officers. And what we're looking to
do is capitalize on the fact that geographically Cincinnati sits
right near Kentucky and Indiana, and those two places, those
two states historically have benefits that are that are significantly less.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
So what we have I get you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
So that's kind of that's their kind of goal is
to you know, get some of these officers from other agencies.
I've had other agencies reach out to me, I mean
just begging when you guys are gonna have a lateral
class because we do make significantly more money than those
other places, and these are already experienced officers that can
go through an abbreviated eight or ten week academy. We

(01:10:23):
can get them on the street to where they're making
a difference quickly compared to new people that it's twenty
eight weeks. Then they go through a twelve week you know,
field training officer program. You're looking at a year to
two years before they're truly making a significant impact on
our street strength.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Wow, so you're poaching officers, which is great, I mean
if you're often better benefits and all of that. I understand.
You know, if if the fools the one is not
looking out for his best interest, So if you're making
you know, insignificant salary elsewhere, it might be a great
lure so that at least you have that option out
there now that's going to leave those other police departments
with a problem on their hands.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
But that's not your issue. Is you're doing this for
the city. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Well, it's certainly right now is a game of shuffle
in the deck because we've got officers that are leaving
Cincinnati to go to other departments for one reason or another,
and it's just everybody's kind of moving around about. And
like I said, if it's an opportunity for us to
do the same thing, why would we not do it?
It only makes.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Sense understood now in terms of dealing with the morale problem.
If you had more officers, that would satisfy a certain
component of it. But in terms of the administration, do
you feel as being effectively run or is that something
you don't feel? You don't want to comment on me
because it might get you into trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Listen, I'm not really worried about being in trouble. I could.
I could tell you that every administration has its strengths
and everyone has its weaknesses. I mean, that's that's just
the reality of it. You Know. What I tell people is, listen,
you cannot like something that the chief does, you know,
when you're talking about administrative things. But the reality is

(01:12:03):
what we need to have as a chief that when
we have a critical incident, we have an officer involved
shooting something like that, we need someone that's going to
evaluate it. They're going to recognize the officer did the
right thing, and they're going to stand behind that officer.
And I mean, you look at this shooting from from
May first, and that's exactly what Chief Fiji has done.
I go the rest of the stuff, does it really matter?

(01:12:25):
You know? And in my opinion, if it's administrative things
that people are complaining about, it beats the heck out
of you know, the alternative, which is you could have
a chief going, I don't know if this is a
good shooting or not. You know, we're going to that's
so that's that's where I want to support. I want
to support when we absolutely need them, when it's life
and death, to know that we've got a leader that's

(01:12:46):
going to stand up there and say the officer did
the right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Fair enough.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
It was widely reported the inquiry reported on among other
news outlets that crime is up. I think it was
forty eight percent over the rhyme, which is where this
murder occurred. Are are we being given accurate information on
the crime statistics in the city of Cincinnati generally speaking, Well,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
If you look at the city as a whole, crime
I think they said is down three or four percent.
But you're absolutely right when you look at over the
Rhine and what's going on right now, crime is going
through the roof in that particular neighborhood. So you know
this it comes back to the old, you know, college
level class of lying with statistics. You can make them

(01:13:31):
seem anything you want them to be. You know, I
had heard that recently that they said, look, there's six
hundred and thirty seven people that are assigned to districts,
and like, if you look at the assignment report, there's
actually four hundred and fifty officers, less than half of
the department is assigned to a relief to answer calls
for service. You add the sergeants and lieutenants whose primary

(01:13:54):
function is not to answer the radio and patrol. That
puts us at five hundred and twenty four. So the
other one hundred and thirty people, one hundred and ten people,
whatever it is. And the answer is they're including in
this the investigative units that aren't responsible for answering radio runs.
The neighborhood Liaison unit that's not responsible for answering radio runs,
the violent crime squad that's not responsible for answering radio

(01:14:17):
runs I hear, and then some administrative folks in there.
So were the numbers that you know that was thrown
out this past week that success. Yeah, it's right, that's
how many people are in these districts, but that's not
how many people are responsible for actually answering calls for service.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
An excellent point you made there. Put an exclamation point
on that one. Now in terms of the reality of
the situation, now I blame the I mean the Department
of Rehabilitation and Correction said. This guy was assigned a
multi agency law enforcement task for US. A warrant was
issued for his arrest. He was designated a violator at
large within twenty four hours of leaving the Halfway House

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after he cut his ankle monitor off. But if that
information isn't conveyed to you, then you don't know that
you're looking for this guy. That's one point. The other
point is that's why we have a crime stopper bad
Guy of the week. You don't know where people are
all the time, and you know, focusing efforts and resources
of the police department looking for one guy, Mordisha Black
who cut his ankle monitor off. Probably, I don't know

(01:15:11):
best use of your resource as limited as they are.
Would a full contingent of police though, going back to
your point about being understaff, it wouldn't necessarily have changed
the sad reality of what happened to the herringers, would it.
I mean, you can't be at all places at all times,

(01:15:31):
and merely having a full contingent of police department doesn't
mean there aren't going to be crimes, and notably breaking
and murder.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
No, sure, you know. I wish I could only have
a crystal ball to be able to say what the
future was going to do or could this have been prevented?
But the reality is if we had more officers and
there were more officers on the street, there would have
been more of an opportunity for the officers to have
a confrontation with this guy, yeah to where maybe they

(01:16:02):
stopped him for jaywalking. Maybe they would have had a
better opportunity to see that he was lurking around at
four o'clock in the morning before this actually occurred. We
don't know, but I could tell you one thing is
for certain, the odds would have been better if we
had more officers because it would be more opportunity, more
people in patrol that maybe could have come across this

(01:16:24):
guy before it happened. But we just don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
I know, and I appreciate the reality of that. But
you make some wonderful points. FOP President Ken Kobert, it
has been great talking with you, clearing the air on
and some of these important issues, and real quick before
we part company, do you feel like you're getting adequate
and your counsel meeting yesterday went really well, at least
in terms of how they received your hope for this
lateral class, but in terms of their outward response to

(01:16:51):
things about the police department. Do you feel like you're
getting full support from the mayor and council or do
you think there's silence is deafening, which is my perception?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Yeah, I mean it is. The hard part is you know,
in this as tragic as this case is, we've had
three more murder sins. Yeah, and there's there's been nothing.
So you know, while I feel for you know, Patrick's wife,
she's absolutely right that you know, and I've seen some

(01:17:20):
of her stuff on social media that's this isn't just
about her husband, This is about all the other people
that are victims amen in Cincinnati, and it's just the
lack of response has said the silence has been deafening.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Well, they're more interested in presenting a picture of the
city of Cincinnati as a peaceful, welcoming environment and they're
trying to get people to move into the city. And
if they talk about crime and they stand up for
police officers and and criticize crimes and murders when they happen,
that is not exactly a good marketing scheme. And I
think they're more worried about marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah, it's a shame, you know, instead of face and
reality and finding ways to make things safer. Yeah, it's
certainly certainly not a good look if people are seeing
it for what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Ken Kober, great having you on today. I have a
blessing to you and all this insane police department. I
know you guys are doing the best you can possibly can,
and I know my listeners truly appreciate members of law
enforcement and your sacrifices what you do every day. So
keep up the great work, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
All right, Brian, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 14 (01:20:09):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
Coreybowman dot com is where you help out. Corey now
pivoting over and you know, I just got off the
phone with FLP President Ken Coober. Obviously we have an
insufficient number of police officers. He was appealing to the
city council to get some a lateral class, meaning you're
going to go out and poach officers that are underpaid
in other jurisdictions, already trained in a short period of training,

(01:20:55):
we'll get them certified to be Cincinnati police officers. An
outstanding idea. He didn't. He wasn't with any resistance to
that concept, which I think is a positive thing and
a step in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Although this is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
All obviously, this mordship black murderer who has cut his
ankle bracelet on and murdered Sarah Heringer's husband in their
own home, has got everybody talking about it. She's obviously
raised a stink and talk about the lack of police presidence.
And he did confirm, you know, and I think it

(01:21:27):
was District one, which includes over the rind. I mean
they are only at any given time in the overnight
like one or maybe two officers on patrol, which sounds
insufficient to me. And that doesn't mean more officers could
have prevented this from happening, but more officers on the street,
generally speaking, might have resulted in this guy being picked
up on an outstanding warrant, which he had. What's your

(01:21:50):
take on crime in the city of Cincinnati and your
take on councils. I call it silence is deafening, their
lack of were regular vocal support. But also it isn't
just this one murder. There are a lot of other murders,
is Ken pointed out, and every single murder is impacting
a family in the same way that Sarah Anninger Herringer.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Rather was impacted. So what's your take on all this?
Corey Bowman?

Speaker 14 (01:22:17):
Yeah, well, I mean I have a coffee shop in
the West End and actually I met Patrick Ringer at
least one time in our shop. I believe he came
in multiple times spoke with him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
This was sometime within.

Speaker 14 (01:22:31):
The last year. He was very kind man, very passionate
about what he was doing with the Fendley movement Jim
over there. So our thoughts and prayers and condolences go
out to his family and his acquaintances fellow comrades. Because
he was a veteran as well but yeah, I mean
our thought the prayers go out to everybody that's being
impacted by crime what seems like happening every day in

(01:22:54):
our city. And what ken Kober said was right. I mean,
right now, I believe the numbers are there are one
hundred and thirty officers understaff, which might not seem like
a big deal, but when you look at the proportion
of the officers that are available for nine to one
one emergency calls or for any other of those on
site details, one hundred and thirty officers would be significant.

(01:23:17):
And so those lateral hiring need to take place now.
They need I mean that needs to happen yesterday because
we're just getting started with the summer month. And then
when it comes to what happened with Patrick Herringer, I
mean a lot of people are going to be bad
talking the CPD with it, But we've got to also

(01:23:38):
put the Adult Parole Authority on blast here because this
is something that a warrant should have been issued months
ago for this, and the Sheriff's Office CPD should have
been notified that he cut his he cut his bracelet there.
So these are things that we're seeing in the city
which to be honest with you. If you have policies

(01:23:59):
in place that do not encourage the community involvement of
the CPD officers, you're going to see this because, yeah,
putting resources, they're putting resources into the call center, into
three one one in community involvement, into ARC officers. But
these resources need to go right into the CPD and
into the local law enforcement and show these officers that

(01:24:21):
we have their back, and they will then give us
an opportunity or they will get the opportunity to show
us that they have our backs.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Yeah, And according to cpo's reporting about this, the parole officials,
they had contacted this guy six times between January tenth
and February eleven, So they have regular interactions like most
parole officers do. You got to meet with the prole
officer on a regular basis. But when an officer attempted
to see him on February nineteenth, they were told he

(01:24:50):
had left before the officer showed up, and they issued
a warrant for his arrest and designated him a violator
at large within twenty four hours of him leaving the
Halfway house, or he wasn't there when his parole agent
showed up However, it's there's no information. They couldn't figure
out whether the Cincinnati Police Department received specific details or
whether any other law enforcement agencies were told about Black's

(01:25:15):
disappearance and asked to help find him. So there's one
piece of missing information, and it sounds like they maybe
they didn't. I mean, he wasn't on I didn't have
a crime stop or bad Guy of the Week on
this guy he should have been.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
But yeah, you.

Speaker 14 (01:25:30):
Mentioned that you can make him say, everybody's going to
try to come out and not be an escapegoat for
this thing. The ultimately, the communication between the parole authority
and the CPD, there's there's miscommunication here that led to
him just being on the streets free.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Well, and you mentioned community involvement. Community engagement.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
Now this is where proactive council and mayor could regularly
encourage the general public to assist actively assistlaw enforcement, which
would include, hey, we're looking for Mordisha Black. He cut
off his ankle, minor, he's dangerous. He was in prison
for almost killing a guy in the park, and he

(01:26:11):
also happened to be uh, he happened to have committed
a burglary in May before he murdered Patrick Herringer, So
you know, can you work with us? You know where
he is and I'm sure someone out in the city
regularly ran into this guy before he murdered Patrick Harringer.

Speaker 14 (01:26:28):
No, absolutely, And like what a lot of these posts
said that council and the mayor have prioritized optics over outcomes.
And you know, if you put out, you know, these
these announcements, or if you put out these real statistics,
then it's not going to look like we're as safe
as what they wanted to be. And you know, for months,

(01:26:49):
what is the news and what has the council been
saying is that crime is down. But to be honest,
if you nothing could be farther from the truth. If
you look at certain statistics, we can see that auto theft,
personal theft, you know, you're talking about Burbley, you're talking
about all these other violent crimes are skyrocketing right now.

(01:27:10):
But we don't want to pay attention to that because
it runs the optics of what we want to see
the city to be. But those things got to change.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Yeah, and you know, notably it was widely reported and
now you brought this statistic up with canon. I mentioned
it yesterday. Crime in over the RNE specifically is up
forty eight percent. Now, maybe not murders, but all other
forms of crime, violent and non violent, including breaking and
enteries and you know, breaking into people's cars and all
kinds of that. I mean, what community more than Over

(01:27:40):
the Rhine has gotten money dumped at a tax abatements
and centives for rehabilitating old buildings in order to draw
the urban hipsters into moving into over the Rhine because
it's such a wonderful walking community. Well, the narrative doesn't
work when you look at the real statistics.

Speaker 14 (01:27:57):
Well, so the statistics that they're trying to pull out
is homicide and rape. Now, homicide and rape if you
look at it as a decreased but when you look
at every other thing, robbery, auto theft, burglary, if you
look at aggravated as assault, and if you include strangulation
in that, then you've seen a massive increase in that

(01:28:19):
as well. I mean, auto thefts alone since twenty twenty
one has gone up ninety three percent. Robbery has gone
up seventeen point sixty seven percent. And you're looking at
like I said, if you look at aggravating assault, which
includes strangulation, you're up twenty six percent. So these are
things all since the mayor has come into office. Ever

(01:28:41):
since you know, the lack of election happened with the council,
these things have gone up, and I think that will
reaping what these policies basically are implemented now. It does
not involve the CPD in the community.

Speaker 6 (01:28:55):
It does.

Speaker 14 (01:28:55):
It creates this disconnect between the community they serve and
the police officers, and because of that, they're not able
to do their job properly well.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
And then we have the we I mean, if we
had a full continuent of police officers who were willing
to go out and arrest people and find bad guys.
We have a justice system who's failing the community as well.
I don't know anything about Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office under
its current administration, but we all know about the liberal
judges who allow very violent people back into the community
with no bond, and then when it comes to sentencing

(01:29:28):
after a trial and conviction or a plea, they don't
get very stiff sentences, which you know, that's the leg
of law enforcement that's supposed to deter people from committing
crimes in the first place you're going to have to
pay if you commit crimes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Well, people aren't having to pay, no, and.

Speaker 14 (01:29:47):
We'll actually the community's paying for it, because that's what's
ended up happening. Weeks ago, I would send a video
of a park near the over the Rhine area where
two suspects they had a target in a park. Well,
there was families, it was a nice day in the weather,
and there was a lot of people outside. They go
up and fire up this park because of one target

(01:30:09):
in the park. And I'm seeing these videos of like
mothers holding their children and just like ducking bullets in
the streets of Cincinnati in broad daylight. And then you
find out one of the people that were doing the
firing they were released the week before because of other
charges that were similar.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
So you mean someone committed a firearm crime, actively shooting,
and was released only to go do it again a
week later.

Speaker 14 (01:30:39):
Yeah, I mean there there. This is a continual basis
to where the profitecutors are looking in. They want to
do it for a rehabilitation. They want to do it
because you know that's what they say that their reasons are.
But to be honest with you, these policies are putting
the criminals right back on the streets. And a lot
of times these are repeat defenders, like what we saw

(01:31:01):
with the Hairinger family, Like we are seeing criminals that
these are repeat defenders that are continuing to do the
crimes and they're continuing to get let out. And then
what this really does is it decreases the morale of
the officers where yeah, you might see certain statistics that
are reported down, but maybe they're reported down because the
officers don't see a point in booking anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Well, yes, that's been a problem. The revolving door of
the justice center really does de incentivize a police from
having to go through all the paperwork that is involved
with the resting someone, maybe for a lesser level offense. Notably,
that's what people are going to get let out on,
so why bother, which means that's one less statistic that's
entered into the books in terms of where the direction
of crime is going.

Speaker 14 (01:31:45):
Yeah, and this is something that you know, as we're
running for mayor obviously a lot of people jump on
these cases for political gain, but the reality of it
is that this is why we're running. We've seen things
in our city over the years that are just not
happy with and we're running to be able to give
people a choice. And one big thing about what we're

(01:32:07):
running for is there is to be tough on crime
and to be able, and even just about being tough
on crime, it's about re engaging the police officers into
the community. I might sound like a broken record sometimes,
but I continue to believe. I'm going to continue to
stand that we need to put the call center back
in the hands.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Of police officers.

Speaker 14 (01:32:26):
We need to be able to dispatch officers not just
for the worst case scenario, but they need to be
actively involved in these communities, in these businesses. They need
to be walking on the streets. Our city needs to
know that the police officers are there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
For us well.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
And as Ken pointed out, the number of police officers
that actually respond to nine to one one calls is
the problem. We don't have enough of them. There's a
lot of administrative folks in there. There's a lot of
folks behind the scenes, you know, doing behind the scenes
criminal investigations and that type of thing. The Special Crimes Unit.
They're not responding to nine to one calls. They're not
the officer to show up at your door when you

(01:33:01):
call nine one one, that's where we have an insufficient
number and we need to do something about that.

Speaker 14 (01:33:08):
Yeah, the number is so last time I checked, it
was one hundred and thirty that was short. But when
you look at the officers that are available for nine
to one one calls, that's two thirds. So we've got
two thirds that are less of what we need to
be able to answer these calls in a timely basis.
And so when you look at the numbers, a lot

(01:33:28):
of these administrative officers are a lot of these other
officers that have different duties a short amount. If if
you look at one hundred and thirty officers that are
short in the staffing, that's a very significant number when
it comes to the nine to one to one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
Emergency responsible well, and Ken said, they're going to be less.
I guess another ninety three are quitting this year, are
going to retire or step out, So we'll drop a
low eight hundred, and that is really dangerous considering the
city is a population of what two hundred and fifty
thousand people or so, that's eight hundred to cover that amount.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
That's not enough.

Speaker 14 (01:34:02):
Yeah, we've got three hundred and four thousand that live
in the in the city.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Oh, is it that many we're doing in.

Speaker 14 (01:34:08):
Four thousand live in the city limits. I mean, some
people might be, you know, leaving just because of what
they're seeing on the news right now. But the reality
of it is that we're just starting the summer months.
This isn't a problem that's just going to fix itself.
We've got to be very proactive right off the bat
if we want to see safe June, July, and August
in our city.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
Put an exclamation point on that. When the summer heat hits,
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Thank you so much, Brian, everybody have a great day.

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Hamilton County to end the property tax. Is the ballot
initie going around to put on the Ohio Constitution, uh well,
an end of the property tax. Welcome to the program, Sarah,

(01:37:30):
good to have you on today.

Speaker 13 (01:37:32):
Good morning, all right, now getting ready?

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
I know, you know the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
I love the idea, you know, when you say, I'm
not gonna have to pay that outrageous tax bill that
I face every year my wife and I got to
give her credit to because she's certainly a breadwinner for
the family, even more so than I am. But it just,
I mean, it's gone up dramatically over the years, and
I'm I'm I wish I didn't have to pay it.

(01:37:57):
And it sounds like a fun proposition, and I sign
up a petition and we get to vote to end
our property taxes. I mean, who wouldn't really be behind that?
But I guess I'm just kind of wondering on a
more complicated level. Well then, what I mean it's a
get your popcorn out and put your feet up moment
for our elected officials how they're actually going to fund
things since everything seems to be funded based upon property taxes.

Speaker 13 (01:38:21):
Well, this didn't come out of nowhere. As you know,
we've been trying to get the state to reform our
property tax system for you know, over a year now,
and they've just kicked the can down the road. And
this is what has finally gotten their attention. So we've
got to get it on the ballot just for that
they're finally paying attention. We've got to get rid of
this atrocious assessment system. It's arbitrary, it's capricious, and there's

(01:38:43):
no validation of the assessment numbers by the county. Nobody
knows what a house is going to sell for until
it sells. And I always say, well, imagine if the
IRS could tax the way property taxes are. Imagine, Well,
imagine if the IRS could say you're making forty thousand
a year, we think your job is worth a hun
hundred and fifty thousand a year. You won't make one
hundred and fifty thousand a year, but that's what we're

(01:39:03):
going to tax you on. Well, that's what the property
tax system is, and we just cannot be taxed like
this anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
Well, that would certainly serve as a foundation for someone
going and asking for a raise. Wait a minute, I'm
being underpaid. But I mean the sad reality of this.
You know, if you're working and you've got income and
your property tax goes up thirty percent, you may get
hit for I don't know, let's randomly pick a figure
and extra thousand dollars. You might be able to swallow that.
But the sad thing and the sad reality is there

(01:39:30):
are many seniors out there who have been in their
homes for decades. They've paid them off, and they don't
have there are any fixed income, some living only on
Social Security, and they can barely afford groceries and the
day to day expenses of just living. Generally, they can't
afford that kind of property tax increase.

Speaker 13 (01:39:48):
No, not at all. I've got eighty five year olds
talking about going back to work. I have a senior
who sold her furniture to pay her tax.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
Oh my god, I have seniors.

Speaker 13 (01:39:58):
Calling me all the time. It breaks my heart. They're
worried about how long they're going to live and how
can they afford it. And of course they can't sell
because anything that they'd buy would be more than what
they're already paying, so we can't. That's no longer taxing. Okay,
that is a mafia shakedown. A tax should be a
little annoyance. It shouldn't be this life changing punch to

(01:40:21):
the gut. And that's what's happening, especially to our seniors
and our working class people. Because see, it wasn't just
that property taxes went up the twenty twenty three assessment.
We expected property taxes were going to go up, but
we also expected everybody to get about the same across
the board, and that is not what happened. We've got
about a third of homeowners in Hamilton County anyway, that

(01:40:44):
live mostly in the working class and lower income neighborhoods,
who got fifty to four hundred percent increases, while another
two yes, while another well, now I have to take
that back. I found two people that got five hundred percent.
Oh my god, yes, And then you've got another two
thirds that got little to nothing, and that includes a
lot of our elected officials, and they didn't think we'd

(01:41:07):
look into it, but we have. So you've got a
third of the homeowners just absolutely in a state of
shock and bewilderment, while the other two thirds are going
they don't know what the big deal is. We can't
be tax like this anymore. And there's like I said before,
there's no validation. Well, and my husband pointed out, how
did what your house is worth ever get correlated to

(01:41:28):
what the government needs to operate? Anyway? There's no correlation.
I mean, once upon a time, if you lived in
a village or something, the townspeople will actually the landowners.
The landowners would get together and decide they needed a
school or a bridge or a sheriff, and they would
come up with how much money they could raise and
what they wanted to give to do that. And if
you didn't want to participate, you didn't have a long

(01:41:48):
arm of the law forcing you to, which is what
we have now. There's no correlation.

Speaker 4 (01:41:53):
Now, if we get rid of property tax, you wouldn't
County commissioners then maybe to raise sales tax to provide
for let's say, the parks and recreations and things of
that nature, because I don't see philanthropist stepping up to
the plate to cover the maintenance of a park, for example.

Speaker 13 (01:42:13):
Well, what we really want is a process where everybody's
got skin in the game. So if that means, like say,
I don't know, property taxes was a one time sales tax,
and then you took a little percentage from income tax
and a little percentage from sales tax. That way, everybody's

(01:42:33):
got skin in the game. What happens now is the
counties already can raise taxes for levees anyway they can levy.

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
Or for stadiums or for stadiums, all right, right, But the.

Speaker 13 (01:42:45):
Reason they don't, well this should make every homeowner mad.
The reason that they don't they keep levying property tax
is that there's way more wage earners than there are
property owners. So right, so they are happy to vote
for a levee that's not going to come up out
of their paycheck. But we just saw last fall they
had an affordable housing and maybe that was the city.
They had an affordable housing levee that was going to

(01:43:07):
come out of income tax and it failed because you know,
we can you can't take it out of my paycheck.
So we just want a system where everybody's a bigger
you know, a larger pool of tax payers is paying
a smaller amount, and then everybody's got skin in the game.
Property taxes is just not that and we were out
as hell and we're not taking it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Right Sarah, hold on, we'll bring you back.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
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Speaker 15 (01:45:00):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
Yeah, there's been other balotis very much.

Speaker 13 (01:45:04):
Yeah, it's very much a shot across the bow. We've
just got them to act and I you know, they
seem to be a little bit nervous up there because
that nobody wants to preside over this.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Right what's happened.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
But if they came up with a legitimate, you know,
palatable legislative solution, I'm just wondering, absolutely, would the signature
drive end? Would you stop collecting signatures and just end
the process, or would this thing just I mean, since
it has legs now and it's very appealing to a
lot of people, and I would think Governor to Wine
coming out against it would probably only help your efforts out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
It does.

Speaker 13 (01:45:35):
It does, And I really appreciate you having having me
on because it seems like when we're out there getting signatures,
everybody who's heard of it, they are falling all over
themselves to sign. Yeah, And then you got people that haven't,
and they need to just hear a little bit about
the background. You know that we didn't go right to this.
It's been a long process to get here, and then

(01:45:56):
they'll sign. We've got even people that will sign to
get it on the ballot, are unclear if they're actually
gonna vote for it, but they think, yes, this is
a good shot across the bow, light the fire under
the Columbus's feet. So I don't know, this is pretty
much God's battle, and I'm just along for the ride.
And I get it, Sarah, I don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
I don't either, And to me, that's one of the
most intriguing elements about it. I almost wanted to pass
just to see what they do. I'm just thinking it's
gonna be like chaos and Columbus, you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
Know, Oh my god, we're all gonna die. So who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
But then again, I'm a property owner, so uh, Sarah Wolf, Now,
what do my listeners need to do to sign on board?
If to the extent that they're interested in signing the
petition to get it on the ballot, where do they go?

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
What do they do? Where are you gonna be that
kind of thing?

Speaker 13 (01:46:43):
Well, the best thing to do is be a circulator,
So you can email stop Property Taxes at gmail dot
com and get your own, your own petition to circulate.
We've got thousands across the county. Now keep in mind

(01:47:04):
we do the best thing to do to find out
where to sign is, at least locally, is to go
to our Facebook grouf that's still going it's Hamilton County,
Ohio Homeowners. I'm having a little trouble getting people to
post where they're gonna be but keep in mind we're volunteers.
We don't have a headquarters, we don't have regular meetings,
we don't have any meetings yet, so just ask around

(01:47:26):
because especially on the West Side, there's probably one hundred
and fifty petitions out there. I am going to do
sort of a pickup weekend. I think that's the weekend
of the twenty first and twenty second, where we'll have
some people, you know, anybody who didn't get to sign
and then if we have to go get the signatures
and people that can't get out, you know, our elderly,
then I'm going to get some people to drive around

(01:47:49):
and get those signatures as well. You can look up
reform property taxes dot com I'm sorry, reform property tax
singular dot com or just google citizens for property tax
reform in Ohio and you'll find us.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
And this is just.

Speaker 13 (01:48:05):
All you know, with our mandate to love thy neighbor,
we don't have Usually you have a million dollars, millions
of dollars behind a push like this to get an amendment,
but always got is God's mandate grassroots.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Hey, hey, it can happen, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Look at the petition to UH with regard to Hyde
Park and the safe Hyde Park Square repetition.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
That was a grassroots effort.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
It cropped up out of nowhere because our government officials
were not listening to the heart and to the citizens
want and uh, you know, this is ripe for outrage.
These property taxes have gone up way too much. And
who knew that we're going to have this massive real
estate value increase. I mean, COVID nineteen had a ripple
effect that people are going to be studying for decades

(01:48:51):
and decades. You know, my property went up in value
as well because demand is still out there.

Speaker 13 (01:48:56):
Well, the first thing we asked them to do is
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Speaker 13 (01:49:41):
We we begged the governor to do it by executive action,
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got mobbed. You know, I go to the West Side,
I get mobbed.

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Talk to you again. I really appreciate it too.

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Seven fifty three fifty five KRCD Talk station. Every Tuesday,
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That'll happen at eight thirty real quick here, still say
the quiet part out loud statement against interest. It's kind
of weird and I don't know why she would volunteer
this to everybody, but Democrat Minnesota state representative minted on
the House floor in Minnesota that she's an illegal alien.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
I didn't check Minnesota law on this to see if
an illegal alien can be elected as a representative in
the state of Minnesota. But she's not here legally, she said.
My father is the one processing the paperwork put my
grandmother down as his mother, and so I am illegal
in this country. My parents are illegal here in this country.
That's a quote on her website. She says the following.

(01:54:25):
My name is ka Hooly vang Her born in Lawos.
My family came to the United States as refugees when
I was four years old. I grew up in Ampleton, Wisconsin,
a paper town where my father worked a local paper factory.
My mother as a teacher's aide as. Our family expanded
and my parents worked multiple jobs to make ends meet.
There were periods of my life where my family struggled
financially to put My parents never gave up on the
dream of what America could provide. These remarks during a

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hearing in a bill for modifying Minnesota Care coverage to
include illegal aliens, which I think California has done something
compared with that, So I understand maybe this advocacy for
the point of adding illegal immigrants onto Minnesota Care. But

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she's admitted to being in the country illegally, which resulted
in people calling for ICE to arrest her. Okay again,
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to have on today.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
You live to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
In every way, timing couldn't be better considering what's going
on in Los Angeles right now, which is coming to
a theater near you, I suppose, regardless of where you
happen to be. But let's talk about this. This seems
to be these riots against It started out with against ICE.
So the protesters come out, and yes, not every single

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protest was chucking rocks and bricks and projectiles and explosives
at the ICE agents, but that was the target of
their ire. Los Angeles, a sanctuary city, does not cooperate
with ICE. They don't lift a finger to help ICE
do its job. But the federal authorities ICE agents are
allowed to go to Los Angeles and go after these
extremely dangerous illegal immigrants, a subset of the broader illegal

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immigrant community, though not intentionally going into homes and taking
women out and children out. What they're looking for is
rapists and murders and thugs and people that came from
emptied out prisons, from Venezuela and elsewhere. But they're just
doing their job. Outcome the protests and it became lawless,
and fires were set and rocks were thrown and people

(01:57:06):
were injured. So if the police department and the Chief
of the Police Los Angeles said they were overwhelmed, a
natural response to might bringing the National Guard. And so
what does Gavin Newsom do sue Donald Trump and the administration
for bringing in the National Guard when he wasn't capable
of dealing with the situation. Am I reading this correctly?

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Neil?

Speaker 16 (01:57:25):
Yeah, more or less. There's a million ways said look
at it.

Speaker 15 (01:57:28):
But in general, California is something of a lawless state.
It's so chaotic that it's losing population as Americans flee California,
and the way they then the state's governments said, we're
losing correlation.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
What shall we do?

Speaker 15 (01:57:45):
They basically opened the borders and they let him foreigners
in to replace Americans. So it's a bizarre kind of
place where a small share of very rich lords over
a large and very poor population. California is the most
economically uneven state in the.

Speaker 16 (01:58:07):
Country, and that's the biggest share of.

Speaker 15 (01:58:10):
Poor people compared to rich people, and those poor people
are basically imported by the state government in cooperation with
Democrats in Washington, DC. And that's great. I mean, if
you're well of our great. It's a disaster, of course,
it's part of how the economy works. When the state

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loses Americans because of high taxes and all sorts of
other unpleasant things, if you just open the door a
bit more and invite more foreigners in, and that means
now the economy is built like that. It's grown addicted
to migration in some ways, like New York, where they
just keep letting in poor people. But then the question

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comes in, what's going to be How are the poor
people going to earn money?

Speaker 16 (01:58:55):
What are they going to do to get their kids
through school?

Speaker 15 (01:58:57):
And the Democrats say, we don't really care, just one
more people.

Speaker 16 (01:59:01):
And think of it this way.

Speaker 15 (01:59:02):
If you're in the landlord business, okay, if you're buying property,
poor people.

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
Are great, which is great.

Speaker 16 (01:59:11):
You can you can put three, four, five, six poor people.

Speaker 15 (01:59:14):
In one apartment and earn more money than if you
had a one middle class family. And so to some extent,
the state's economy is now built on a huge inflow
of poor, hard working people, legal or not.

Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
Well, it sounds like the return of the Gilded Age,
where you had you know, land barons and uber wealthy
with a very poorly paid populace that was working in
the factories, right.

Speaker 15 (01:59:41):
And those guilded wealthy people are busy constructing ideas and
claims and notions that the way that suits us, the
way it is now is good and noble and it's
true forever. And so they talk about diversity in California
is great.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Immigration is great.

Speaker 16 (02:00:00):
You know, all documented immigrants and.

Speaker 15 (02:00:02):
Kenna are just as Americans as Americans.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
So they construct all these crazy.

Speaker 15 (02:00:05):
Ideas to justify the way they've rigged the economy in
favor of a small.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Number of poor people.

Speaker 16 (02:00:12):
So my wife's family.

Speaker 15 (02:00:16):
Has been pushed out of that state roughly speaking, as
seven siblings and half siblings.

Speaker 16 (02:00:20):
One is dead, one is.

Speaker 15 (02:00:23):
Still in California, and the other five have left the
state because it's just so chaotic. I mean, the place
is lovely, it's long, deniablely lovely. There's a huge amount
of money slashing around in that state, and various people
get their share of that money ultimate through government like unions,
for example. But it's incredibly on even and on fair,

(02:00:46):
and the people at the bottom they had lousy housing,
lousy school scores, lousy crime rates.

Speaker 16 (02:00:55):
But you know, you're a.

Speaker 15 (02:00:56):
Democrat, You've constructed your whole world to say, my goods.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
Are noble people.

Speaker 15 (02:01:01):
They're more Americans than are than they are American than
ordinary Americans.

Speaker 16 (02:01:06):
And they just refuse to guard the border.

Speaker 15 (02:01:10):
So when the FEDS come in and say, look, we
think we have an international crime syndicet down in the
garment district where they're using illegals to run from part
of the black underground economy of crime. And by the way,
the state is full of international crime. So you have
up and down, you have Chinese run marijuana grove farms

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that the state dares not shut down.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
Okay, just like some.

Speaker 15 (02:01:36):
Blade runner kind of economy in the sun, and the
FEDS commits.

Speaker 16 (02:01:41):
That we're going to shut down.

Speaker 15 (02:01:42):
It's the international crime operation in here. And what happens
is because it's party. Because the Democrats have painted such
a frightening picture.

Speaker 16 (02:01:54):
That you get this street fight by.

Speaker 15 (02:01:59):
All sorts of organizations and hugs. And the street fights
are very small scale at city La is so vast
you wouldn't know apart from the pillars of smoke rising there.
But the people who are fighting are themselves tied to Democrats.

Speaker 4 (02:02:19):
Like, yeah, that's the point I made the other day
in the Morning Show. The Greater Los Angeles population is
just under thirteen million people, and by all accounts, there
are several thousand rioters in the streets, so it represents
just a small sliver of the overall population of the
Greater Los Angeles area. So I mean, we tend to
blow these things out of proportion when we can get

(02:02:40):
these optics of the fires and the rocks being thrown.
I mean, I don't know that those folks actually represent
the will and the interest of the most of the
people that live there. And going back to the crime point,
and it's an excellent point, Neil. If I was an
illegal immigrant, I'd still want a safe community. I wouldn't
want lawlessness and crime and gangs in the street, right.

Speaker 15 (02:03:01):
So there's lots of divided interests here. If you're in
a legal migrant, you want your kids to stay in
the school. It may not be the best school, but
it's better than Mexico, so you're going to keep your
head down. But the political organizations that have come over
time to represent you. Groups like Churla or the Democratic Party,

(02:03:22):
they have their operators, their full time staffers or professionals
that hangers on. Those are the ones who are rioting.
These are semi organized to some extent, paramilitary affiliates of
the Democratic Party's network in the state. They're the ones
chucking rocks. And you know this sounds bizarre, but when

(02:03:42):
you see these black class people in the streets, they
are backed by elite with a lot of money who
have an interest in shutting down the immigration enforcement.

Speaker 16 (02:03:54):
Because that's tech California's economy.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
Now run.

Speaker 15 (02:03:58):
I mean, if you were to to the migrants, Okay,
you guys are wonderful, you guys are great.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
You guys are going home.

Speaker 15 (02:04:05):
You're going to have a couple of several million people.
There's forty million people in the state. You have several
million people leave the state, send head home, sadly back
to Asia. But like a huge share of the white
collar workers are held by migrants, what's going to happen
to rents? They're going to crash. Rents are going to

(02:04:26):
drop down thirty four percent. Wages are going to go up,
especially for example, they're roughively poor Americans such as blacks,
and a huge amount of money would sort of slash around,
moved from rich people down to ordinary people. And if
you pick out all the illegals, there'll be such a

(02:04:47):
crisis that wealthy American families will be forced to hire
black people to clean their houses. There, it's that shocking.
And ordinary black Americans white am it will be invited
in to work with the rich people as electricians and
plumbers and software designers and advertising people. That's how shocking

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it would be. California leaders like to think of themselves
as the population is diverse, and of course that's great
for the leaders because in a diverse population, everybody's not cooperating.
In a chaotic, diverse population of illegals and various minorities,

(02:05:31):
Latinos and blacks and Latinas from Mexico, Latinas from out South,
or the great population doesn't argue back. It's too busy
arguing among itself. It doesn't argue back and say this
country state is badly run, our schools are badly done,
our roads are badly done, our taxes are too high.
In a diverse state, the great massive people are busy

(02:05:54):
trying to earn a living day by day, and they
don't argue with the people in charge.

Speaker 16 (02:05:59):
Democrats have run.

Speaker 15 (02:06:00):
That state now for forty years in part because they
import a massive population. Yeah, and it's just not interested
in fighting back against the state.

Speaker 4 (02:06:10):
Well, and also willing to work for a very very
lower wage than someone who is a legal person here
in the United States might otherwise charge because they're not
living in the shadows. I mean, like, yeah, okay, I'll
take ten dollars an hour and do that job. But
if I was an American citizen, I would demand twenty
or thirty, which is market rate elsewhere, right.

Speaker 15 (02:06:32):
And a Mexican who comes in and works hard because
he wants help his kids will say, I'll do that
wages for ten dollars because it's a lot more than
my dad got when living in Mexico. And they will
keep their noses to the grindstone and they will work,
and they'll fix up the gardens, and they'll do a
lot of the manual labor and hope that their children

(02:06:52):
become middle class. But the children don't become middle class
because the economy is stuck in this sort of high low,
rich poor kind of economy, which is not true of
other states. There's lots of American states where the population
has the practical power to say, we don't want the

(02:07:14):
legal immigrants, and we're going to vote out politicians to
try to bring them in.

Speaker 16 (02:07:18):
We want decent wages, and.

Speaker 15 (02:07:20):
We're going to refuse to work for factories that don't
pay decent wages.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
But that old.

Speaker 15 (02:07:26):
Ideal, that's the ideal that made America, that was made possible,
and last swath of America after nineteen twenty five is gone.
In California, it's basically like a feudal system, a few
rich people lording over the masses. And these few rich people,
of course they have their quasi armies of wanna be

(02:07:50):
elites like Antifa. I mean, the Antifa is full of
these young men who went to college when women who
are earning lousy wages working as way is at age
thirty forty fifty with and they can't get a boyfriend
or govern who because they're also working at lazy wages.
And these unhappy people, these unhappy would be members of

(02:08:11):
the middle class, they're willing to throw bricks.

Speaker 4 (02:08:14):
They're the ones, yes, they're the ones that buy into
the Marxist argument. From each a quarter's ability each according
to his need, and that that somehow they've been dealt
a bad hand because of the very elites that they're
supporting by their advocacy.

Speaker 16 (02:08:29):
Exactly. The media is full.

Speaker 15 (02:08:33):
There's whatever is also true.

Speaker 16 (02:08:36):
The media is overwhelmingly.

Speaker 15 (02:08:37):
On the side of more migration because migration means more
eyeballs in the form of migrant buyers, migrant renters, migrant workers.

Speaker 16 (02:08:46):
And if you own a media.

Speaker 15 (02:08:49):
Empire, are you're going to want more eyeballs.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
It's so much easier, And.

Speaker 16 (02:08:55):
So they're basically pro migration too.

Speaker 15 (02:08:58):
It's got I was so far out of hand that
the average American can in California can look around and
say this is terrible, but there's nothing I can do
except to.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Go along with the system.

Speaker 15 (02:09:11):
And meanwhile Democrats are saying.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
You're evil.

Speaker 15 (02:09:15):
If you change the system, you're a meani, you're a
biggest if you try and raise wages on help Americans
have families, Americans, Americans can't afford FAI. It's very difficult
to afford a family in LA because the housing price
is so high, is long and expensive.

Speaker 14 (02:09:35):
Yeah, and so I.

Speaker 16 (02:09:38):
It's ship.

Speaker 15 (02:09:40):
You never never want to mean to migrants, even illegal migrants,
the vast majority of them are working hard to get
a better lives for our kids. But if you allow
the popular, if you allow the whole system to get
out of balance, then middle class, working, ca ordinary Americans

(02:10:01):
lose power and the ability to earn money. And it's
reached a crisis stage in California so much that the
establishment's street gangs are now fighting the federal government's enforcement
of ordinary criminal law because because the local Democrats want

(02:10:22):
to hide their dependence on cheap workers, poor migrants, poorer renters,
and poor consumers.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
It's terrible.

Speaker 4 (02:10:31):
Well, I suppose one may advocate that they're getting what
they deserve through the creation of this system. Neil Monroe,
the immigration expert for Breitbart, it's a pleasure having you
on the show and that thoughtful analysis on that. It's
a different angle than I think most people were taking
on the unfolding riots as we're watching them, so certainly

(02:10:51):
appreciate your thoughts and insights on that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
Neil.

Speaker 4 (02:10:53):
Look forward to having you back on the Morning show soon,
and I hope you and everyone at Breitbart have a
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Speaker 4 (02:13:37):
And well, it happened over the weekend, I guess on
overnight Saturday or maybe your Sunday, Russia launched four hundred
and seventy nine drones at Ukraine, the biggest overnight bombardment
of the three year war. As it's been reported, some
of the drones were shot down, some of the missiles
were shot down. They've also escalated their attacks on the

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eastern and northeastern eastern parts of the front line.

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
I have a quote here.

Speaker 4 (02:14:05):
I think we'll call this an understatement Ukraine President Vladimir
Zelensky calling the situation very difficult.

Speaker 1 (02:14:12):
Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 4 (02:14:14):
A week after week, Russia keeps gaining more territory, keeps
bombing more of Ukraine. Ukraine fires back some Russian some
drones into the Russian territory, accomplishing not a whole lot.
Maybe some sort of moral victory when you blow some
blow up a plane. But as far as the war's going,
things are getting worse, aren't they.

Speaker 12 (02:14:33):
Yeah, that's exactly right, and you've characterized it perfectly. This
is in some sense, I think that this is the
evidence of a side that realizes the war is nearing
its endpoint and they're just throwing in all this. They're
pulling out all the stops and throwing everything into this.
And that's why you've seen attacks inside Russia on railroad bridges,

(02:14:54):
one of which took down a civilian train and killed
a lot of civilian people. They hit the Crimean bridge again,
it didn't succeed, but they did hit it. And then
you're talking about this strategic bomber fleet through many sites
inside of Russia, and then they continued even since that
time to attack air bases and angles and other things.
This shot you're talking about here over the weekend of
four hundred and seventy nine missiles that was just that day.

(02:15:17):
They have been since that bomber time. About two or
three days later, they appear to have started on an
air campaign, meaning instead of coming up with some big
shock and all kinds of deal as retaliation for this,
they just said, we're going to escalate our normal routine
and we're going to saturate you with bombs. And it
is being devastating because there's just way too many bombs

(02:15:37):
and drones and missiles that Ukraine simply doesn't have the
air power to knock down, so it is starting to
really cripple them. And then, as you said, all that
is having impact on the front line because Russia is
accelerating its conquest of territory in the Sumi area in
the north and a couple of areas in the eastern flank.
And there's nothing that I can see that's gonna reverse
any of those trends.

Speaker 4 (02:15:57):
Well, and of course every time you read an article
about you know, Ukraine, desperately needs additional Western aid, but
that would only be in the form of military hardware.
You got to have somebody behind the wheel of a tank,
you got to have somebody operating the hardware. They're running
out of people. I mean, again a continuing theme of
our regular discussions, Daniel, But nobody's volunteering troops. I don't

(02:16:19):
want to see NATO volunteering troops because this will escalate
the situation to a World War three event. And I
know that the leaders in the Western European countries appreciate that,
and I think that's why they haven't stepped up and
send some of their own guys to the front line.
So this war of attrition looks like Russia's on the
winning side of it. So are they just going to
capitulate and roll over? Are they going to concede to

(02:16:41):
Russia's demands to you know, disarm or denazify. I don't
know how you do that. It's a political ideology. If
they're Nazis in Ukraine, I don't know how you get
them to stop being Nazis. But whatever, they're gonna have
to concede these demands, are they not?

Speaker 12 (02:16:56):
Yeah, and listen, I think that at the Istanbul meetings
a week aldgo Monday, Russia made very clear its statements.
You've had Dmitri Medvedev in the last forty eight hours
to think clarify further, and that is they are going
to military victory. The twelve point piece plan so called
that Russia gave, the memorandum that each side was supposed
to exchange Russia was basically terms of surrender. I mean,

(02:17:19):
you can't look at it and see it any other
way because basically you have to do everything that we say,
and it is an egregious list. And then Dmitri Medvedev said,
we are going to continue going on, probably all the
way to the Nepper River. Others have added in there
from Russian sources. So they are marching forward and they
have no intent to stop because they don't think that
there's a partner they can deal with and negotiate with.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
Because I got to be honest with it.

Speaker 12 (02:17:42):
Even though I know most of your listeners really like
the Ukraine side and don't like Russia, the fact is
there were many political and diplomatic off ramps that either
Zelenski or Biden, or really even the current leaderships, they
have not yet taken and things continue to go forward,
and then Russia says, then the only thing left to
us is to fight until we win on the battlefield,
and that may take six months, nine months, a year,

(02:18:03):
I don't know, but Russia is prepared if it takes
even longer than that, and they're resourced for it, and
they can do it. But I'll just add that I
don't think the Ukraine Army can survive that long, to
your point, because they're already now starting to say they're
going to forcibly mobilize eighteen year olds in the very
soon and according to like Ben Hodges, your former US general,

(02:18:25):
he thinks they should start taking women as well, anything
to just keep the fight going, which I consider to
be immoral because there is no possibility that they can
win and all they're doing is sacrifice in another generation
of Ukrainians.

Speaker 4 (02:18:37):
Well, and what would the situation look like for my
friend My listeners aren't familiar with the geography all the
way that river. Does that mean Russia is going to
be an occupying force in areas where it does not
have predominantly pro Russian communities like Crimea. We've talked about
that a lot. They started there because most of the
people there were sympathetic with Russia and would rather been

(02:18:59):
under the Russian umbrella than the Ukrainian umbrella. So is
this just regions like that, or are they going to
keep pushing and pushing and then have to be an
occupying force with hostile hostile people around them constantly, sort
of like that guerrilla warfare concept you and I have
talked about before.

Speaker 12 (02:19:15):
My reading of the situation and of the demographics inside
of Ukraine says that Russia is probably going to annex
and sees not just occupied, but annex into the Russian
Federation all the regions that have predominantly Russian personnel that
are living there right now, and that means on the
other side of the current line of contact, there's quite
a number of other provinces that have a majority or

(02:19:37):
substantial percentage of Russian speakers, and I think that they're
going to continue to go until they capture all of those,
and that means past the Danepa River in some places,
like in the Odessa area, and I just don't see
anyway we can stop them, we meaning the West at large, Ukraine, Europe,
et cetera, unless we do as you said and into
the fight, and of course in that catastrophe that we

(02:19:59):
should never ever do and because we almost certainly won't
do that, that's in the cars. There's just nowhere else
for this to go, but in an ugly end for Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (02:20:08):
So the map is going to be redrawn ultimately, that's
really what we're talking about here. It's going to be
a completely different looking country. And I think I guess
the rename part of Ukraine when they take it over,
like they did with the Eastern countries after World War Two.

Speaker 12 (02:20:22):
Yeah, and you know it will be the case to
where Russia will put out its maps whatever, and nobody
in the West will acknowledge that the maps in the
West will continue to show Ukraine and they'll just say
occupied territory whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:20:33):
So everyone will go on with fiction whatever they prefer.

Speaker 12 (02:20:35):
But the hard facts on the ground is Russia is
almost certainly going to own it.

Speaker 4 (02:20:40):
How long do you think this is gonna take? Because
this blood bath, it's it's a crime against humanity. I mean,
people are just like lambs to the slaughter in this conflict.
Right now, the way things are unfolding, I just saw
that they have one thing that they have agreed on
is exchanging the dead and seriously wounded, and there are
a thousands and thousands of those exchanges going on, just

(02:21:02):
one little illustration of how horrific this has been in
terms of loss of life.

Speaker 12 (02:21:07):
Well, they kind of agree to it, but they haven't
actually done it, and in fact, so far, the Ukraine
side categorically said yeah, we would do that, but then
Russia moved a bunch of these like huge eighteen wheeler
refrigeration trucks filled with six thousand Ukrainian bodies, and the
Ukraine side is not willing to take them now. They
claim because they don't know who they are. They claim
that only fifteen percent we can identify, and they're like

(02:21:29):
it could just be Russian guys or something, so they're
not taking them. There's a different interpretation it could be
because that will now take those soldiers from being missing
in action to confirmed killed. And now then they have
to pay, you know, the severance and not severance. I'm
sorry that the money to the soldiers for being killed
in contact, just like we do. And according to most
calculations that somewhere around two billion dollars. Ukraine doesn't have

(02:21:53):
two billion dollars, so they can't pay them. Then that's
going to make angry relatives, so they're trying to avoid
taking care of that. Now, one final thing, I know
we're running short on time. This morning, it was announced,
or actually last night revealed rather by Budano, the leader
for the security services in Ukraine, that Ukraine Russia is
now getting help from North Korea on the production of

(02:22:15):
the Guarantee the twos or threes, the most modern long
range drone that Russia has. And now then they're producing
around two thousand total, two thousand per month, and with
this new capability it could expand to five.

Speaker 1 (02:22:28):
Thousand per month.

Speaker 12 (02:22:29):
And this is the top of the line stuff that's
causing most of the damage right now. So everywhere you look,
it's just going downhill for the Ukraine side.

Speaker 4 (02:22:37):
So and I understand the reasons for the demand for
those those weapons. I guess I'm kind of wondering North
Korea's what do they have in this game that they'd
be so willing to assist Russia. I guess it's just
the creation of jobs for the North Koreans and the
forms of weapons production and making money off the purchase.

Speaker 2 (02:22:54):
Of so part of it.

Speaker 12 (02:22:54):
The other part is they want they are getting some
very valuable scientific help from the Russian side.

Speaker 1 (02:22:59):
They were getting help up there.

Speaker 12 (02:23:00):
I think it's the Huassong eleven k and twenty three
we call the missile. They gave some of those to
Russia early on, and apparently they were wildly inaccurate. Well,
Russian scientists have now gone to help them repross or
recal calibrate that and reprogramming, and now then all of
a sudden they're very very effective. So that technology is
going to Ukraine to run North Korea as well. And

(02:23:22):
then there's also they get combat experience. So this increases
the capacity of North Korea, which worries South Korea.

Speaker 4 (02:23:28):
I guess it would. Daniel Davis find them online Daniel
David Deep Dive check out the podcast. I always enjoy
our conversations man, as sad and disheartening as sometimes they are,
at least you're speaking truth and reality about the whole thing.
That's all we can do. Appreciate it your time today
as always, Daniel, look forward, pleasure, look forward to next Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (02:23:48):
As always, see you next week.

Speaker 4 (02:23:49):
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the morning show five one three, seven, four fifty eight
two three found five fifty on AT and T phones,
i'mid talks of the energy prices going up and the
well climate catastrophy they're having. Well, actually is the reaction

(02:25:22):
to the alleged man made global climate change realities. Europe's
struggling and having problems. They have to always rely on
natural gas in spite of the fact they want to
go to windmills and solar. Sort of a cautionary tell
for the United States of America. And on the heels
of the interesting comments, and I thought it was a
rather interesting outlook that Neil Monroe had. And so far
as the immigration situation in California, that sort of Gilded

(02:25:46):
age thing that's going on. They they've created the elites,
you know, prosper and rely on the backs of the
underpaid illegal immigrants in their in their states. As so
many people have moved out and it is extraordinarily expensive
to live in California and Elissa Finley over at The
Wall Street Journal, Gavin Newsoen faces a climate revolt from

(02:26:09):
Democrats sort of highlights yet another problem that California has,
and one of the reasons things are so terrible there's
because the regulatory environment that they've created. California Governor gavenusrom
Srides must be grateful for the ugly divorce between Trump
and Elon Musk. It's useful public distraction from a crack
up in his own party over the state's burdensome climbing policies,
which are driving energy costs up and jobs out of

(02:26:31):
the state. Democratic lawmakers and Sacramenty experienced a political waking
of sorts after two major refineries recently announced they're shutting down.
Study last month by the University of Southern California Business
School professor projected the gasoline prices to rise more than
eight dollars a gallon because of the constricted supply. Now

(02:26:52):
the lawmaker's backed Newsom climate dictats that brought about the
refinery shut down or up in arms. We have a
crisis on our hands that may have been self created
by the actions perhaps taken by state regulators.

Speaker 1 (02:27:04):
Uh duh.

Speaker 4 (02:27:06):
At least Assemblyman David Alvarez noted the obvious when he
made that statement at a legislative hearing last month. With
the governor's energy regulators, Knewsom claimed the legislature needed to
give his regulators more power to punish refineries for price gouging.
Alvarez said, I don't hear today any evidence of such gouging.
Assembly Woman Cody preen Norris asked if California companies were

(02:27:30):
raking it in, why did we have two refineries announced
their intent to close great question. Assembling of Mike Gibson
mused that increasing fuel imports once the refineries are closed
up could increase pollution. California Air Resource Board Chairman Laney
Randolph concurred, but when asked whether the board considered costs

(02:27:50):
of regulations, Randolph demurred, we don't analyze a retail cost
of gasoline or specific costs to specific consumers, she stated.
After the hearing, assembly Woman Jasmine Baines demanded missus Randolph's resignation,
saying carbon has been given so much power they were

(02:28:12):
prepared to ban gas and diesel cars and trucks single handedly.
It is outrageous that the Director would pursue such policies
without even trying to analyze the impact on prices. Yes,
it is, but who gave the board so much power
and who authorized mister Newsom's other energy regulators with to
tax refinery excessive gross margins and micro manager operations, despite

(02:28:34):
warnings from oil and gas companies that such laws could
cause refinery shutdowns at increase gas prices. Only last week,
Democratic lawmanders vote vowmakers voted down GOP legislation that would
block a new California Air Resource Board rag set the
tech effect next month that independent economists estimate will increase
prices by sixty five to eighty five cents per gallon

(02:28:56):
after abetting mister Newsom's war on fossil fuels. They are
running for political cover. As the economic and political fallout
hits Ah, this citizenry is waking up the goal of
California's climate regulations is to raise gasoline prices to goad
people to buying electric cars. Democrats, however, don't want to
pay a political price for the costs and consequences for

(02:29:16):
their policies, so they're lashing out of mister Newman's Newsom's regulators.
Governor's response to the fury over sky high gas prices.
Let them take trains fuel in California's high gasoline prices
are its cap and trade and low carbon fuel programs,
which raise the cost on fossil fuel businesses and consumers
to subsidize electric vehicles, and the construction of the state's

(02:29:38):
high speed rail train to literally nowhere. Newsom's also lambetted
the lambass of the USC analysis projecting higher gasoline prices,
dismissing the studies predicting his twenty dollars an hour minimum
wage for fast food workers would cost jobs. But according
to government data, thirty seven thousand jobs have been lost
since Newsom signed the fast food law twenty and twenty three.

(02:30:01):
Expect Democratic legislators soon to berate mister Newsom for these
job losses. Fortunately for the governor, he's term limited, so
we won't face irate voters next November. Democrats running to
succeed and or trying to show they feel California's pocketbook pain.
At a candidate forum last month hosted by California Labor
Federation and the State Building Trades Council, candidates took turns

(02:30:22):
lamenting the refinery shutdowns. Former Representative Katie Porter and Elizabeth
Warren and Acolyte quote, we are not yet generating enough
clean energy to shut down our existing supply of traditional fuels.
Lieutenant Governor Elany Canlacas emphasized that jobs are sacred. We
have to make sure refineries stay open. Former State Controller

(02:30:46):
Bettyee noted, we can't create a clean environment on the
backs of workers. It's offensive to say we can just
retrain workers. All Democrats folks singing a different tune, wake
up to the reality. Former Los Angeles Mary Antonio Villa Garross,
another Democratic candidate for governor, wrote in the recent Bakersfield,

(02:31:07):
California op ed quote, we shut down our own production,
some of the cleanest in the world, and outsource the
environmental destruction to places with weaker protections and no union labor.
That's not climate leadership, it's climate hypocrisy. California is plunging
oil prices has forced its refineries to import about three

(02:31:28):
fourths of their crewed from the Middle East and South America.
There aren't pipelines or enough US vessels that comply with
the Federal Jones Act, a nineteen twenty law that require
ships carrying cargo between the US ports to be built, owned,
and crewed by Americans to transport crewed from the Gulf Coast.
To replace the closing refineries, the state may have to

(02:31:50):
import gasoline from China at a premium. The result more
pollution in carbon emissions. Don't expect the Golden states of
Pressoveka and i'm a Climate to change until voters wake
up and break up with Democrats and Sacramento. Does anybody
think that day will ever come? This is a product

(02:32:11):
of their own makings, dating the obvious. But it's just so,
it seems so plain and so obvious, and you've been
talking about this stuff for years and years. The price
of gasoline necessarily will increase. Barack Obama set it back
when he was president. This was all by design. But
you know what, when their reality comes to fruition, people

(02:32:32):
end up having to pay a whole hell of a
lot more to keep their houses as cool or warm
as the case may be, and fill the gas tanks
in the cars which aren't replaced by electric vehicles, which
people can't afford. You get an angry mob on your hands.
But will they learn a lesson? Democrats are the one
that decriminalize crime in California. Democrats are the ones that

(02:32:53):
were open borders that allow these riots to take place.
Democrats are the one that were in charge of well
everything that led too and cause the Los Angeles fires.
The definition of stupidity doing the same thing over and
over and over again and expecting a different result. It
used to be a red state state that brought us

(02:33:15):
Ronald Reagan used to be. I think it was a
lot better place to live back then. Maybe they will
wake up and look at their history lessons or look
at their history and learn a lesson from it and
choose a different path going forward. And know I'm not
holding my breath for that to happen, but we can
all learn from the stupidity of Californians and what they
have done to their own people. We should learn from it.

(02:33:39):
Let's see what Bobby's got this morning. Bobby, thanks for calling.
Welcome to the Morning Show. Oh it's time for a break.
I thought we were done with breaks, all right, Well, pause, Bobby.
I will take your call when we return. It's eight
fifty one right now.

Speaker 11 (02:33:50):
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Speaker 4 (02:33:57):
If you've got KARSD talk station time for a caller.
He's kind of enough to stay on hold of the
break there and indulge me while I read the op
ed and interjected my own comments. Bobby, Welcome back to
the fifty five KRC Morning Show.

Speaker 5 (02:34:09):
Good morning, my brother. I just got a short little
thing to say. It's a repeat of what I've been
saying for the last few years. We're in a cultural revolution.

Speaker 2 (02:34:18):
Number one.

Speaker 5 (02:34:19):
These incidents and everything that are going on in California,
it's just a prelude.

Speaker 2 (02:34:25):
Get out the popcorn because it's coming.

Speaker 4 (02:34:29):
You may be right, Bobby, I know you've been worried
about this for a long time. Hate to see it unfold.
But you know, I am a firm believer that the
vast majority of Americans are in favor of law and order,
and these thugs out on the street represent a small
slice of humanity. They're violent, they're angry. They get attention
by their stupid criminal acts, and that's what generates attention,

(02:34:50):
that's what generates clicks on media, and that's what people
report on. So you think every bit of Los Angeles
is on fire and they're all behind this, But I
keep going back to the fact that greater Los Angeles
has twelve almost thirteen million people, and there are only
several thousand of these thugs out on the street. And
if you pulled all the Los Angelinas in the area
surrounding it, you probably find that they are against lawlessness

(02:35:13):
and if push comes to shove, that they be on
the side of the good guys like you, Bobby. And remember, Bobby,
I think the good guys are the ones that own
the guns, that enjoyed the Second Amendment. So I hated
to think about it coming down into a shooting war,
but I spent a lot of time at the range

(02:35:35):
because it's a hobby of mine. A fifty five fifty
five Casity talks to Jack Atherton and Judge Ednapoulatano on
the fifty five Cassey Morning Show tomorrow. Enjoy those conversations
if you didn't get a chance to listen to Ken
cob or FOP president responding to this Sarah Heringer situation.
Corey Bowman was on mayor ol candidate Corey Bowman about
the safety within the city of Cincinnati. Sarah Wolf spearheading

(02:35:58):
the end property tax Amendment here Ohio, which always kind
of puts a chuckle in the back of my head
immigration expert Neil Monroe. The inside Scoop of Bright Barton
is a very interesting take on the Riots in Los
Angeles podcast. If you five kars dot com, including Daniel
Davis Deep Dive, I hope you have a wonderful day, Folks.
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