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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Five five, I think about d r C detalpation. Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I was literally just looking at the article of a
pd S sitting Feld's appeal to the bribery case being
denied in federal court. We're gonna be talking about that
this morning. Hence the sound effect. Brian Thomas appreciating Joe
Strecker every single day. I love it when you're on
the SoundBite buttons, Joe. I really really really love that,

(00:58):
because you know, you get a hundred per under the
credit for the comedy associated with that. I have no
control over the soundbites. This is entirely Joe Strecker's domain,
and so it reveals the high level of Joe Strecker's comedies. Oh,
happy Wednesday, folks. Ah, let us see here what's going

(01:20):
on this morning on the fifty five casey morning, So
just do the rundown again. Props Joe Strecker for lining up, folks,
and props to Jack Adden, who joins the program every
Wednesday at seven oh five. We call it the Big
Picture with Jack Athiden. Business is finally coming home the
subject matter of our conversation with Jack this morning. I
love his insight. Brilliant man. He is, and quite frankly

(01:42):
a dear friend, Steve Gooden returns Porter Wright's Steve Gooden,
excellent lawyer, he is. We'll be talking about, of course,
the aforementioned signed by PG. Sittenfeld losing the appeal two
to one opinion, six Circuit. US Court of Appeals said
that Sittenfeld case was difficult, but you know what decide

(02:03):
how to view testimony and whether or not someone was
engaged in bribery or just you know, normal everyday politics.
They pointed out the line between lawful political solicitations and
bribery blurry, a bit of a blurry line. And I
have no objection or argument with that. Sittenfeld accepted donations

(02:23):
to a political action committee in exchange for his promise
to support a property development project. I think most of
my listeners know the backstory on that. But as the
court noted in its two to one opinion, Sixth Circuit,
the opinion says, the well case law as well as
Congress have been trusted juries with discerning between legitimate campaign

(02:43):
donations and illegitimate bribes. And they listened to all of
the recorded testimony, most all of the conversations PG had
that were in this trial, I mean they were able
to judge the tone of the voice. They were able
to listen to the actual words that were spoken, not
some recitation or recollection of what was spoken, but the
actual words themselves. Courts of the jury and Sittenfeld's trial

(03:08):
found that he solicited or accepted campaign donations in exchange
for his promise to support this real estate project with
Genian and Dickway. I don't know how they treat politicians

(03:30):
that have been convicted of take a soliciting bribes.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Joe, thank you got bad for him.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I don't think he has any friends.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, that's true. Apparently you know that. One of the
interesting footnotes on this and thank you as always, the
inquiry reported on this one. Apparently last June, Princeton Alumni Weekly,
which is the magazine for the college that PG Sittenfeld
attended Princeton, had an interview with him, and he talked

(03:59):
about God not seeking an elected office and instead shifting
his career goal to becoming a writer.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Whatever. Thank you, Liam.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So he's got thirty days file of motion, he apparently
are expected to argue they're gonna try to get the
Supreme Court to take this one up. Yeah, that's me.
I think I'm on Liam's side on that one. I
know how difficult it is to get granted retisscherary and
actually show up and argue a case before the Supreme Court.

(04:32):
Literally thousands of efforts every single year. They can't hear
them all, and it's probably unlikely that they will do
it in this particular case. Slim Left Town, You're right,
Joe Streker, Slim Left Town, all right. But Steve Good
to be talking all about it, and he too will
offer his opinion, thoughts and insights on the likelihood PG
will be able to appear before the Supreme Court and

(04:53):
have this thing reversed. Congressman Thomas massy All my favorite
hour of power. Eight o'clock, Congress Messi, followed by Judge
Editor Paulitano, Congress Messi and the Eliminate eliminating the Department
of Education, auditing the FED, repealing double tax on social security,
the national nationwide Constitutional carry, and the aristocrats. Joe, you're

(05:19):
on a roll today. Five one, three, seven, four nine.
You can open the phone lines up. Did they work
this morning?

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Joe?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
God only knows.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Five one, three, seven nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred
eighty two to three taco with Tom five fifty on
AT and T funds if you'd like to comment, All right,
where to start on this one? Doage obviously causing some
real problems to the Democrats, and it's really, I think
he quite comical if you step back from this and
you look at this thing, this whole doge and the
revelation of all the terrible spending choices that have been

(05:54):
made and where your money is going for programs that
nobody in his right mind would ever want a fund.
At least that's my perception, and polls reveal that I'm
on the right side percentage wise. Funding LGBTQ propaganda efforts
in far away lands is not something the vast majority,
I mean the overwhelming vast majority of people in the

(06:16):
United States support or want their tax dollars to pay for.
And there's a multitude of other programs. You know, I've
been regularly using the shrimp on treadmill thing, which is
just laughable. But you know, there are areas of scientific
research like, oh, I don't know, messing around with bat
viruses to make the more susceptible to human beings that

(06:37):
most of us think is probably a really bad idea.
We have a great illustration of that. Wasn't that long
ago we were all standing six feet away from us,
wearing masks, away from each other, wearing masks, and believing
that was going to do anything. Then we all wind
up to get vaccines. Well not me, I never got one.
They reykavoct on the world because you help pay for that.

(06:58):
I'm using the term rules loosely. Research good idea, anybody,
no bad idea, bad bad things can happen.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Let's not do that.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
But the list is seemingly endless, and it gets longer
and longer and longer. Democratic Representative Queasi infume in response
to the efforts of Doge standing outside the Social Security
office on Monday, and the social Security one is a
real laugh. I mean it is a joke. They're screaming

(07:29):
about Elon Musk messing around somehow with Social Security.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
What did he find out?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I mean, he's out loud saying listen, I want to
help the program. I want to make sure you get
your Social Security check. I'm not in there to take
it away from anybody, but I don't want to keep
issuing checks to people who are apparently one hundred and
fifty years old. I'm not sending out checks that people
with know social security numbers have no identity or no
connection with Social Security. Period You need a social Security number, folks.

(08:03):
That's how you end up paying into the system when
you are employed. And if you're going out checks a
bunch of people with no idea or no connection with
Social Security, that's fraud, waste, and or abuse. So he's
helping people anyway, Infumi. This will be a congressional fight,
a constitutional fight, a legal fight, and on days like this,

(08:26):
a street fight. Yes, we will stand stand for what
he called the department that he called the Dosee department,
the department of government evil. I'm sorry, no, that was
where democratic represented a logic, Cummings, No, no, right, no, no,
it was infume. Infumate took over filled the seated comings.

(08:49):
Trying to get my notes straight here folks. Sorry, it's
five o'clock in the morning. What I love the responses
to this on social media. First off, you know here
he is. You know, the party keeps claiming that somehow
the right wingers of the violent ones or something along
those lines, condemning violence. Of course that we all should,

(09:10):
but here he is talking about a street fight overprotecting this,
this government turf, this handout, these handouts that have been
going on for so long, and stand back and look
at our national deficit, our problem with spending much. Must

(09:32):
Quota is saying, just yesterday, it's not optional for us
to reduce the federal expenses. It's essential. It's essential for
America to remain a solvent country. And Democrats want to
take it to the streets to protect these these ridiculous expenditures.
Does that make sense to anybody. Matt Whitlock, described as

(09:54):
Republican commoner and commentator, had this to say, Not only
are Democrats openly promoting political violence, promoting political violence over
funding trans surgeries in South America. One illustration of the
literally endless supply of stupid expenditures that you and I
are working to pay for every day. And I love

(10:19):
this in Fume spokesperson. After all the backlash, and that
was just one comment, there are multitude, as you might imagine,
on social media, multitude of comments responded to in Fume's
violent remarks or suggestions of taking this to the street,
and FUME spokesperson had this to say in response to
the criticism Congressmann, Fumi was talking about going neighbor to
neighbor and person to person to fight to win the

(10:40):
hearts and minds and souls of disaffected voters who didn't
participate in the last election or who are turned off
by the current process.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, that's unloading a mouthful.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
What?

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Joe?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Did you hear that from imfume? When I read his
quote that did it come across as that in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
No, it didn't.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then this prepared statement from a spokesperson souls of
disaffected voters who didn't participate in the last election. If
you don't cast a vote, sorry sucks to be you.
You get what the other folks in America decided in
the oh my god, democratic process. The spokesperson went on,

(11:27):
he believes everybody needs to be engaged, and you have
to be able to fight where people are, to talk
with them and get them engaged and bring them back
into the fold.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
The fold being, as I observe, given the nature and
basis of the criticism Doge cutting stuff and things out
of government that are needless, pointless and otherwise fraud, wasted, abuse,
just outright corruption, we need to bring people back into
the fold of letting that continue.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And then here this spokesperson also had this to add,
and ask yourself, what what is the DOGE Department doing
trying to ferret out fraud waste abuse?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Springing from that generally accepted concept, spokesperson said heat and
Fumi is the ranking member that United States House Oversight
Subcommittee on Government Operation has been the focus of his
bipartisan work alongside Subcommittee Chair Pete Sessions for the last
two years. Cosmanan Fume supports many things to make government

(12:43):
run better, including ending cost overruns at the Department of Defense,
take tackling the underworld of fraud and improper payments associated
with government spending. Let me reread that point. Tackling the
underworld of fraud and improper payment it's associated with government spending,
i e. Social Security payments going out to one hundred

(13:05):
and fifty year old people, which they're all screaming and
yelling about him somehow, messing with your social Security check.
And finally and establishing a scorecard within agencies which measure
their ability to curb waste. Well, it sounds like you
should be on board with this rather than arguing people
take it to the streets because Doge is actually delivering

(13:25):
on that specific set of issues that infume apparently is
all about Chris van Holland, Democrat Maryland. We have to
we have one simple message, which is Elon Musk, keep
your hands off our social security.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Really over the over the.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Last twenty one days, we have seen Elon Musk conducting
illegal raids on federal agencies with his Doge crew. This
is a recipe for corruption by the Doge boys, all right,
bringing to American people's attention that social Security checks are
going out to a multitude, and in the massive sums
of billions of dollars to people who don't deserve one
or are not lawfully entitled to one. This is the

(14:05):
crap you get in response to him bringing out having
some success and at least identifying areas of waste.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's just laughable.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I just I'm beside myself with this, Senatorly, on no
planet does Doge want to take away social Security check
from anyone? And on no planet is violence warranted by
what Doge is actually trying to do stop fraud, waste
and abuse in government. Musk agreed, saying, yeah, I can't

(14:41):
emphasize this enough. The goal of auditing Social Security administration
is to stop extreme levels of fraud taking place so
that it remains solvent and protects the social security checks
of honest Americans. Five twenty at fifty five KARSIT talk station.

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Speaker 3 (15:09):
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Speaker 2 (15:12):
Five twenty four fifty five Kara CD talk station. Yeah,
Christopher Smithman just texted me. He observes you that the
release of the hostage is just amazing, given credit to Trump,
which I guess you should. I, you know, drawing parallels

(15:35):
did the first thing that came to mind when I
saw that Mark Fogel had been released after all these years.
Teacher Mark Fogel thanking Donald Trump and his team is
in calling them heroes after he finally was released from
Russian prison. Detained in Russia since twenty twenty one, teacher
working with the Anglo American School in Moscow, serving a

(15:57):
fourteen year sentence after his arrest for possession of drugs,
which his family said was medically prescribed marijuana. So he's
been festering away in prison all this time. Look a
new administration. Another prisoner released it. It reminds me of
the Iranians. Ronald Reagan gets elected after all those years
had longer than a year. How long were those Iranian

(16:18):
hostages to head in there? The embassy folks won election
and both guess what they were released?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Elections of Consequences five to twenty five. Got local stories
or phone calls coming up? Stick around be right back
two three to fifty five KRSE dot com. You can
get a chance to listen to the conversation with Daniel Davis,

(16:51):
retired Aukennant Daniel Colonel Daniel Davis with a deep dive
the Inside Scoop. Joel Pollock and I found out yesterday
for the first time. I wasn't aware he was a
resident in a Pacific Palisades. He fortunately did not have
his home burned down. But he did talk about the
hurdles and the problems with the rebuilding and how dysfunctional
California is. But he spoke very highly of that community,

(17:13):
and he wanted to dispel any notions that you have
that it was all a bunch of really multi millionaire
rich people living there. He said a lot of seniors
that had their homes from back when they could get
you know, a ranch house or two bedroom ranch or
something like that for a very low amount of money,
and there were apparently a lot of those types of
homes there that their home then became worth three point

(17:34):
five million dollars just a matter of the real estate
market changing over time. They certainly couldn't have afforded to
buy one at that price given their income levels. So
a lot of regular, run of the mill, everyday average
folks who didn't have gobs of money lost their structures.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
And of course he did have.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
A lot of blame delay on the the idiots who
run California. Not all the neighbors agree with the idiots.
Senator Ran Paul lots of different various topics with Senator
Ran Paul Yester in the Morning Show, plus Morello with
Brown Morello podcast on Elon Musk and Doje. So those

(18:13):
are all right there, fifty five cars dot com. Check
them out if you like what you see. Senator along
to one of your friends over the local stories, hamiling
county commissioners, you gotta love this slamming the village of
Evendell's response to the crazy white supremacist demonstration. I don't know, Joe,
were they white supremacists because they were all covered up

(18:36):
and they were waving Nazi flags. I know they were
trying to And yeah, I did read some reports that
they weren't all white. Was it Clayton Bigsby the name
of the character from Dave Chappelle Dave Chappelle Show. Anyway
that group be home the swastika flags, which would make

(18:58):
them Nazis. Say what you want about the tenants National
Socialism due to LISAS and ETHOS commissioners at their public
meeting yesterday echoed concerns of residence as to why these
idiots were able to leave without any citations or arrests
by police. I think the right to peaceably assemble and

(19:21):
the freedom of speech, as bad as the speech might
have been protected their activities, oh lo and behold. Evendale
and Hamilton County sheriff deputies responded to the demonstration, even
though police reached a statement on Fridays saying the swastika
waving demonstrators remained on the sidewalk and here's the fundamental

(19:42):
salient point, didn't break the law. Hemilton County Sheriff's office
with a statement from Lieutenant Mike Steers on Monday, also
said no law was broken. The commissioners asked the county
officials in the next couple of weeks to report on
what happened in the re sponds. Hamilton County Commissioner Lisha
Resa she wants to review of police body camera footage,

(20:04):
social media posts and other information to answer why there
were no tickets or arrests, saying they can't be comfortable
coming into Hamilton County, so I support the residents calling
for answers. For her part, Stephanie Dumas, Commissioner Dumas the
even though police were nowhere around, they are the culprits

(20:26):
in all this, asking that the Evendelle police be called
on the carpet and Reese also challenges the assertion no
long as no laws were broken. She said people were
threatened and that may very well have been true. I

(20:49):
think received a caller earlier this or last week or
late in the week say someone was yelling racial slurs
at him. In fact, Eric Griffin was reported by uh
thank you Scott Warton from the Inquirre for doing the
reporting on this.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I give you credit.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Eric ruffin speaking with The Inquirer that it became concern
for his safety and that of his daughter after being
accosted by the group in a stop why He said
the demonstrators began yelling racial slurs at him while he
sat at the light well, and I feel for Eric,
and I got to imagine that was a very uncomfortable situation.
But if the protesters are standing on the sidewalk next

(21:26):
to the street, screaming whatever vile bile that was coming
out of their mouth, and they yelled at you, as
long as they didn't, you know, threaten you with grievous
bodily in g or something along those lines, which allow
you to defend yourself in a violin or perhaps deadly force,
used deadly force like you feared for your life legitimately

(21:48):
so such that you could defend yourself with deadly force.
They're allowed to scream their bile and spew their violent anger.
I seem to recall a lot of various protests shut
down streets and highways, preventing ambulances from moving through, spraying
graffiti among various buildings, protesting the police department. A lot

(22:10):
of people got yelled at during those as well. Where
was Alise Cheris screaming about that? Just asking for a friend,
That's all I'm doing. City Newport grappling with financial challenges
and seeks to maintain the historic Purple People Bridge, originally
a railroad bridge, opening eighteen seventy two, converted in early

(22:30):
two thousands using four million in state funds earmarked for
demolition Originally. City leaders learned the Newport City Commission's annual
Strategic Planning meeting that these funds have been exhausted and
significant expenses. Significant expenses are now looming. PROPS Local twelve
for reporting. Newport currently pays nine thousand dollars a month
using privately donated funds to rent support shorings in one

(22:54):
of the bridge's trusses. That part of the structure requires
four hundred thousand dollars in permanent repairs after shedding stones.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Last May.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Newport Mayor Judge Gooduley apologies or John Gooduley, apologies, Jonathan
mispronouncing your last name. Why are we at a critical
junction now? Because there's no longer four million dollars. Every
dollar has been spent, and we're in a position where
the financial needs of the bridge exceeds South Bank and
the city combined five thirty five. If you build it,

(23:29):
they will come. But like all the roads and infrastructure
in the city of Cincinnati, you're supposed to take care
of them, maintain them. If there's no money to do that,
what do you do?

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Sticker?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Sell a railroad?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Thank you, Joe Strecker, he hit the nail on the head.
Sell a railroad. Five thirty five, fifty five KR SIT
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Speaker 6 (23:47):
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and a very happy Wednesday to you, A good show
lined up DAC out Ofthan and coming up in seven
out five Steve Good, our legal expert on PG Sittingfeld
losing his appeal in the sixth Circuit Congressman Thomas Massey
judge the.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Keep getting me with that one, Joe. Anyhow, before we
move on to the stacking s tooo. But I got
Mississippi James on the phone. James, how are you doing today?
My friend? Good to hear from you, as always.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
All right, two quick points for you.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Have you seen that video that the guys was loading
in the back of the U haul to come to
the bridge.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, I haven't seen that video, I admit I have not.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Yeah, someone saw the police, you know, having the door
open and loading the guys in, and they thought he
was going to be a swat team going to make
a rest or something.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
So they start recording it. Oh, they getting ready to
go to the swat team.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Oh, because all the guys were dressed in black and
had masks on and stuff.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I could see that mistake be made.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
Sure, Yeah, right, And they fought this the police putting
them back there. So they need to do a deep
dive and find out who the police.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Was and get the names of the guys that was
in there. The police and the person said, I'm gonna
follow this van. So they followed the van to see
where the swat team that they thought was the swat
team was going. And that's what they brought them to.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
The hit to the bridge. Yeah, but what there's no,
that's not unlawful, James. If you rented a U haul
and you got a bunch of your friends and you
all decided to cover your faces and wear all black
clothing and got into the van, Honestly, strange as that
may be, there is not a single thing that's illegal
about doing that.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Nothing about the police bringing them there.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
You saying the police drove the U haul or just
followed them. What No, drove the police drove the van.
Oh right, Okay, well I'm gonna have to I have
to find that out for myself, because I'm not I'm
not suggesting for a moment what you're saying is not.
It just sounds just incredible to me. So sure, if

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there's something to connected with that, yeah, I'd like to
find out that information.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Right, we need to know who those ulfices are and you.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Know what they had to.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Or if that's just one more among a gazillion different rumors,
accusations and inny windows that's going on out in the world. James,
I must observe. I've seen so much stuff spewed out
about this one incident, like almost literally everything. People start
saying things, They make things up, They sound plausible, but
ultimately they're not real. Like the fifty million dollars for
condoms in Gaza Doge identified whoops, sorry we were wrong

(26:39):
about that. It was Gaza in some other country in
the world where they're trying to fight AID. So Musk
had to come out and apologize. He said, listen, nobody
bats a thousand so stuff and things float around doesn't
mean it's necessarily true. So if somebody has that particular
video or information related to that, please just forward it
to me. I'd be happy to take a look at it.

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You had something else you were talking about, or you
wanted to say, James.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yes, Okay.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
Now, all the money they saved the Elon Musk and
I appreciate some of the stuff that he's doing. But
my question is, out of all the money they saved,
what happened to it? Do I stay in the budget?
Do they get the benefit for every because you know,
we used to call them bean counters when I worked
at it.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah company, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
And they get a big profit out of it for
the money that they could save.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Fraud Yeah, I don't think government employees get a slice
of the action. They are employed with his salary, and
I do not believe they get any any percentage. And
I know there are corporated these and bean counters out
there that do that. Like, for example, if I am
not being paid by a vendor, I can give that
owe obligation to me to some outside entity and they

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recover it and they take a slice of the pie.
That's not how government employees work. But in terms of
where that money goes. He's not getting paid either, James.
He's doing this for free. No, nothing, James, nothing.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
We don't know that.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yes, we know.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's been widely reported in major media outlets of all
political stripes. He's not getting paid. He does not get
a slice of the action. He's doing this for the
benefit of saving the country from itself, apparently. So let's
just spell that notion right away. I love you, brother.
Keep hanging there. Hey, and are you working with the

(28:27):
kids yet? This that you mentioned that you were going
to be working with the young people in your community
down there.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Well, I'm waiting for the security Yeah, in two programs,
I am good. But the PREGRM that I created myself,
I took my finger prints and security background check, so
we're waiting on that any day to come back.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, I'm sure you'll pass that with flying colors, so
it's just a matter of time. I'm axious. I'm anxious
to see how the young people react to you, James.
I think what you passed along to me my listening
audience was a great idea, an absolutely wonderful idea, and
I really hope it bears fruit and brings you some success.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
For listening and calling in James, you have a wonderful,
wonderful day five to forty five right now for your
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Roads are slick, Be careful, please, winter system moving into
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You shouldn't be either.

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in his suv.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
He admitted it.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
He admitted to inhaling all day his words at Courting
Police Department in the report. I also arrested for similar
infractions back in October November of last year. It was
Sunday over the weekend, Harris County Console's Office Precinct one, Houston, Texas,
tried to pull over speeding vehicle. Instead of stopping, the
driver kept going looking back at the police in his
rearview mirror, making several terms. Eventually, thirty nine year old

(31:08):
Christopher Michael Peddler stopped after the half mile pursuit. Cop
found more than one hundred canisters of nitrous oxide aka
laughing gas, two extremely cold with ice and frost, along
with mouthpieces for inhaling, suggesting that he had just been
recently inhaling, and then he admitted, yes, he had been

(31:30):
inhaling all day, said he has a problem.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
What yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Taking him to Custoy on charges of possession of a
volatile chemical and fleeing police, both misdemeanors. Back in November,
a police caught him sitting in his park Chevy Suburban.
Refused to come out of his car, and a police
officer saw him put a canister to his face and
inhaling inhaled its contents. Once he did come out, he
was described as sluggish and could barely stand. At that time.

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Police also recovered more than one hundred canisters. Witness witness
called after allegedly saw seeing Peddlers sitting in the car
with his head down in his chest, not moving. He'd
been parked in the same spot for about ten hours.
Arrested and charged with inhalent paraphernalia. Also arrested in October

(32:23):
for prodestan possession of volile chemical. After his third arrest,
prosecutors requested that his bond be increased because he opposed
the danger to the community. Peddler is at the Brazoria
County Jail seventy five thousand dollars bond. Motion filed by
his attorney called his client's bond excessive, oppressive, and beyond
his financial means. Okay church in Colorado handing out magic

(32:52):
mushrooms to its congregants for free. The Psychedelic Church of
Colorado Springs, y So has been open for a year
more than three hundred members. Church founder guy named Benji Dazivol,
said he legally allowed to hand out these psychedelic mushrooms
due to law passed by Coloraden's in twenty twenty three,

(33:13):
which decriminalizes the gifting and consumption of psilocybin medicines. If
you want to call no kidding, he said, I made
sure it was okay with my neighbors that I called
the El Paso County Sheriff and said, hey, this is
what I do.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm letting you know.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I just making sure I'm doing everything right, not trying
to be this mindless hippie who just wants to do
what I want to do at the expense of others.
I'm trying to help people, said His congregation recognizes three
universal truth detailed on his website. Sheriff's office said there
does appear to be one neighbor who's upset about the church,
but deputies have not found any criminal behavior. He said

(33:52):
not all of his church members take part in the
what he describes as natural medicines psychedelic mushrooms, and those
who do take him receive a safety lecture.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
No when kids, if you smoke a joint or not.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Maybe not, but I don't want one of those guys
behind the wheel of an automobile.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Let's see, let's try this.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
One Florida attorney found himself on the other side of
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Sante forty three, standing handcuff before Judge Mindy Glazer in
the Miami courtroom, responding to charge of aggravated stalking. After
posting a twenty five hundred dollars bond, he was ordered
to stay away from the victim and another attorney who
was not identified by name. Records say he allegedly followed

(34:42):
his target to the place of business at his home,
sent him seventy five to one hundred text messages please
say include threatening lyrics from rap songs. What Restaffy David
points out. Police said that he reportedly began asking asking
him been asked by other attorneys to stop contacting him,
but he refused and kept following the other attorney back

(35:03):
to his home, allegedly sending the other attorney messages that
he was outside his home, mentioning the names of his
children in the messages. Affidavid states the unnamed attorney his
family were in emotional distress and the constant harassment I
imagine they were. He was arrested February sixth while carrying
two pizza boxes the alleged victim name on it and
spouse's name on them. Affidavid stated that Santy told police

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he was bringing the pizza to his alleged victims home.
After his arrest, he admitted to intentionally sending those text messages.
Local news there WPLG, obtained the arrest report and stated
that Santi allegedly stalked his victim at his workplace out
of fear for his safety and that of his employees,
had to close his place of business and send his

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But who knows?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
So interesting topic of law, what politicians can get away
with and what they can Congressman Thomas mass I'm looking
at eight o'clock hour, the hour of power. Congressman Massey
on eliminating the Department of Education with pretty good reason,
got something on DEI in there, auditing the FED, repealing
the double tax on social security, nationwide constitutional carry. If

(38:01):
we can get all that in congressomasse eight to five
fall by Judge Editor Politana The myth of emergency powers,
strict constitutionalist judge Enda politana. Where do these emergency powers
come from? We will have a historic review of that
and we'll get conclusions from the judge. That'll happen at
eight thirty. So without further ado, speaking of the Department

(38:22):
of Education, you know, I may as well just go here,
because not know which direction I want to go, although
I do have something important to bring up on our
energy policy. Department of Education canceling now, thanks you to Doge.
Democrats pulling their hair out over it. So far, there
have been forty nine lawsuits filed against the Trump administration
for its efforts to pair back the wasteful spending in government.

(38:44):
Do you believe that, going back to my rant in
the last hour, I mean Democrats promoting political violence, promoting
political violence over funding all these stupid things that no
one wants. Look, I know we're all cynical, jaded, skeptical

(39:08):
about polling, but you know you do have one profound
revelation that you can point to and say, well, maybe
the polls are right. The vast majority of Americans don't
believe in this DEI stuff funding these you know, far
away foreign country LGBTQ plus WXYZ promotion events, all of it,

(39:28):
and we sure as hell shouldn't want to be funding
and paying for Social Security checks to go out to
people who don't exist, or who claim to be one
hundred and fifty years old, or those who don't have
Social Security numbers low and behold, and was pointed out
that listen, it's easier to send the money out than
face a complaint from someone who didn't get money. So

(39:49):
rather than do their due diligence and keep an eye
on the Social Security which, according to the CBO now
for decades has been saying red flag, red flag, trouble ahead.
That light is not the end of the tunnel. It's
a train coming your way. The fund is gonna run out.

(40:10):
We're paying out more than we're taking in. Hello, anybody
in federal government elected officials want to take care of
this massive problem we are facing ahead. Look long comes
Elon Musk, most wealthy guy in the world, going back
to Mississippi James. He's not getting paid. Elon Musk doesn't
need any money, which is why he's willing to do

(40:31):
this job for free. The money he pulls in based
upon the revenue from his own companies is enough to
satisfy you. Probably employ the entire state of Ohio comfortably
all the way through in retirement with what he's got,
and you have money left over. Maybe he's worth billions
and billions of dollars. He's been regularly described as the
wealthiest guy on a planet, So no, he doesn't need money.

(40:55):
But he is out loud on record saying I'm trying
to save social Security.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
I don't want to touch it.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
What's your people's problem, meaning those who are screaming and
yelling and filing lawsuits for what he's doing and trying
to pair back government waste and abuse. So to part
of education, maybe the subject matter of getting eliminated completely,
which I be in favor of. Let states and local
boards decide what their policies are. And it exists mainly
for the support of teachers' unions, which stand in the

(41:26):
way of what parents often want, not all. I'm not
criticizing all teachers. You got a tough job. Department of Education, though,
are now canceling more than one hundred million dollars in
grants that fund diversity, equity inclusion training. Part of the
DOGE efforts to get rid of this wasteful spending. They
announce the termination of eighty nine Department of Education contracts

(41:49):
totaling eight hundred and eighty one million dollars. So of
that nearly one billion dollars, DOGE identified at least one
hundred and one million that was used for DEI training,
including teachers educators to help students understand slash, interrogate the
complex histories involved in oppression, and help students recognize areas

(42:10):
of privilege and power on an individual and collective basis.
OH training young activists, how about you teach them how
to read? How about math, science, arithmetic? Things that have

(42:31):
a useful purpose in life and that will serve them
in future employment, rather than propagandizing them. So the part
of education taking your taxpayer dollars and throwing heap loads
of money that will ultimately use to hire DEI specialists
who will then instruct your children on whatever the hell
this is privilege and power on an individual and collective basis.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
According to the j.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
The Education Department spent another one point five million on
a contractor to quote observe mailing and clerical operations close
quote at a mail center. The Education Department paid for
that Department of Education. What the hell's that got to
do with your children? Well, of course nothing, so they

(43:27):
canceled that contract. Founder or president of a group called
Parents Defending Educational woman named Nicki neely DEI was never
about equity, was about enforcing ideological conformity and institutionalizing discrimination.
Shutting down these wasteful and divisive programs is a win
for every student. More states need to follow suit. Yeah,

(43:49):
I couldn't agree more. What is the function and purpose
of the Department of Education? I'm asking for friends, I'm
asking for myself. If this is the kind of thing
they're funding, what I got to do with your children's education?
We have failing students, failing schools, failing I.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Mean it's.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
They don't have anything to hang their hat on that
they can say objectively, this is why we are here,
and this is the good that we are doing. Why
would you fund an organization that can't bear fruit, They
can't provide some value to your young person?

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Do it?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Days?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Got Dave, Thanks for calling this morning in a very
happy Wednesday to you. Good to hear from you.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Yes, good to hear from you. I'm a retired revenue agent.
I have a past the CPI to have a master's chase,
and I had a little anecdote about back when I
was in college. It's pertinent now, but I took a
question of government accounting from a national expert. She was

(44:55):
the first woman to ever get a PhD from in
accounting from Berkeley. Quite a driven person.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
One of the students asked the magic question about government accounting,
to which responded, if you and I practiced accounting in
the public the way the government practice is accounting, would
be in prison. Someone. Then someone then asked her about
the two thousand dollars toilet seats that the Air Force
is buying. Yeah. She looked up for a moment, doctor

(45:26):
a moment, and then said, you have to remember there
are a lot of top secret and black ops and
and the costs of those have to go somewhere. So
that's that's somebody who testifies before Congress is an experts
who commented that to her students. As an auditor, I
would like to point out that you study transactions from

(45:51):
uh the beginning to the end to see if all
the documentation is complete, and you would study it from
the disbursement back to see if it's really valid and
with Elon Muska's perfore him, it's quite a mess because
they may have no complete doctification and they may not
be valid. And I'm not even sure that although it's
alternative lights that organization.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
This you know, valid point, excellent point.

Speaker 11 (46:15):
Day.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
We were talking about that yesterday. I can't remember if
it was with Senator Ran Paul anyway, So somebody brought
that up. The money trail. Okay, Congress makes an approval
for USA or whatever, and here's your forty billion dollars
in somewhere within USA. They decide which programs are going
to get the money, crazy, as so many of them are.

(46:36):
They get approved, But then what happens to that money
after it leaves. Does it actually fulfill whatever maybe ridiculous
purpose it was sent out in the world to do,
or is it merely funding very big, healthy, fat, multi
hundred thousand dollars salary. Is it five O one three
C corporations that get the money, or does it loop
back maybe to some politicians or something maybe goes back

(46:59):
to campaign country. Abutions the money trail doesn't end with
the allocation, as you point out, you got to find
out exactly what happened to it as it moves out
into the world. How can we possibly get our heads
and hands around the massive, multi trillion dollar spending that
goes out in the world.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Dave.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
It's an additional point here that's of interest. In my
work with actempt organizations, I discovered an interesting fact about tedsfers,
the funds, international transfers and funds. The transfers of funds
by mngos and charity stand to receive less.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Scrutiny, shocking no one because there are thousands of them
out there.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Well, we're in a hurry to get that money there
for all the people that are stick to need help.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, right, and it really helps him out right, Dave, Hey,
real quick, Dave. I raised this with with with Senator
Ram Paul yesterday and he said, you know, that sounds
like a really good idea. I don't know if I'm
the first to bring it to his attention, but apparently
we're not paying for eighty seven thousand new IRSA. Maybe
wouldn't since you were there, could they be retasked with
this exact purpose that we're talking about right now?

Speaker 4 (48:09):
It is entirely possible. The standard for hiring agents increased
in the nineties so that you have a bunch of
managers that don't have accounting training and don't have expertise,
and then you're hiring a lot of people that have
accounting degrees. You can figure out how that works. But
typically you have a number of people that do have
accounting degrees and you have a number of people in

(48:32):
the field agents who have auditing experience. So yes, there's
a nice source for those. I think Elon Musk, the
artificial and text ai experts that he has can probably
run through a lot of audit procedures really fast. Yeah,
you're right, and find the dead ones that the money

(48:53):
transfers to. Who knows where the money that's going for
another version of Rosen Cavalier.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Is going to who knows what? Well, and Dave.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
As I'm listening to you and I'm thinking to myself, Okay,
follow the money, follow the money, how do you do that?
Like my favorite pet peeve is the insane amount our
military budget is when we can't they can't even pass
an audit seven times in a row or eight times
in a row, they don't mark down the appropriate information
to know where the money was allocated and spent. So
that to me is an area ripe with with with

(49:27):
with low hanging fruit to fareed out fraud, waste and abuse.
But here the folks responsible for sending out the dollars
don't even provide sufficient information to document where the dollars
go crazy. Dave, I can't thank you enough for the
call man of experience like yourself. You put some fill
in the blanks and quite a few interesting points there.
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Straight to the phones. Got Steve on the line, Hey Steve,
thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the show, sir.

Speaker 12 (51:08):
And Thomas Massey is my representative. I live in Independence, Kentucky,
so I'm always proud to hear him espousing his views
and his opinion. So that'll be nice to hear him later.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
An opportunity for me to thank you on behalf of
all my listeners who share Thomas Massey's constitutional principles.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Thank you for electing him.

Speaker 12 (51:26):
And financially supporting him.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Which is that helps? It helps that you know it
helped out.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
That's good.

Speaker 12 (51:32):
A couple of things about Doge and I moved to
Kentucky from Floria to thirty four years ago. And I
remember talking to people in Kentucky and this is related
to elon Musk and I, you know, they were like,
uk uk Kentucky, do dot whatever. And I was like,
I'm here because I chose to be here. You're here

(51:53):
because you were born here. I said, you know, just
just get off your high horse. I mean, I chose
to come here. So elon Us is born in South Africa,
chose to come to the United States, is a naturalized
United States citizen. That's somebody. And there's something about people
that do it that way. They have a love for

(52:13):
this country. It has provided the opportunity for him to
be extremely successful.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Now.

Speaker 12 (52:21):
I think he is Thomas Edison and Henry Ford and
John Rockefeller. He is all of that combined.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I mean there, you know, we didn't.

Speaker 12 (52:31):
Just have geniuses long ago. They are walking the earth
today and he's one of them. I think he's doing
this out of a love for the country. I'm thinking,
my couple of thousand dollars a month I'll eventually get
from Social Security.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
He's not after I.

Speaker 12 (52:46):
Don't think he needs I don't think I'm that significant
where you know I don't have an inflated opinion of myself,
or I've got to worry about him going after my money.
He's trying to protect my money. You've got anybody that's
against cleaning up waste in government is either because you're

(53:06):
against cleaning up waste, which doesn't make any sense, or
you're somehow benefiting from the fact that there is waste
in government. So anybody against it that's holding an elected office,
you have to wonder why are you against this? Yes,
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Well, I know what the logical conclusion is. The follow
up point that you just made.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
You must be I mean, let's us say I think legitimately,
so even though we're not certain, Listen, this person or
friends of this person somehow must be benefiting by all
this fraud, waste and abuse. Otherwise it makes no sense
to argue against ferreting it out.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Well.

Speaker 12 (53:46):
In fact, Musk was talking about people that their whole
career has been in public service and are extremely wealthy,
And it doesn't make any sense unless something is going
on that shouldn't be going on. One more funny thing,
and I can't take credit for this. A caller to

(54:06):
Clay and Buck mentioned. You know, the Dems are going
after the fact that Musk has these very young people,
say eighteen to twenty five that are just computer just
geniuses on anything with tech, and they just can't believe
that teenagers should be given this much power. Now, if

(54:27):
you go back in time a couple of years ago,
there was this psychotic person from Sweden, Greta Thunberg, that
might have been thirteen or fourteen at a time, and
they were espousing her as if she walked on water,
and they wanted world leaders to listen to everything she
had to say. So that's the side that doesn't think

(54:49):
we should listen to young people now.

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the right to vote in federal elections. So yeah, go
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man debt for a shooting happened last night in westwood
Portisincein Police Department officers they were called to the three
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man in his twenties had two gunshot wounds taken to
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Police officers described the suspect, who ran from the scene
as a black mail with dreadlocks. Police haven'tyet identified the
suspect and have not yet named the victim. Investigation is ongoing.
City council committee considering changing laws to require vacant house
owners to register their property with a city Mike Schew

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Fox nineteen reporting Thank You. Council members said it's a
effort to ensure the safety of the city's firefighters should
they respond to an emergency at a vacant house.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Committed to delay to vote.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
On the ordinance after some of the members raised concerns
that it might target minority property owners. I exactly, Joe,
That's why I stopped target If it's a vacant house,
it's a vacant house. What does it matter the color
of the person's skin, or their creed, or their sexual preferences.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
It doesn't it matter at all.

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Others point out the goals to protect firefighters who risk
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Since I fire crews see here, since a Assistant Fire
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together and get his analysis, and it's always a very

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thoughtful and insightful one. I love talking to Steve good
and Congressman Thomas Massey. I just got an email from
someone saying, see if you can get Congressome Messy to
run from Mitch McConnell's seat. Yeah, that'll be awesome. Senator Massy,
I don't know if he's into it, but we'll find out.
I got a lot of things to go over with
Congress of Massy and then Judge the Polatano at eight thirty. Anyway,

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someone brought up Breta Thunberg earlier, and I made this
observation many times over the years, and I firmly believe it.
You know, me and I do not believe that you
and I have any connection with the responsibility over the
climate changing. Yes, the climate does change. Look it's winter time,
give it a couple of minutes and it'll be springtime here,
and it'll get hot in the summer, sometimes very very hot,
and sometimes very very not hot, cooler summers. This has

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been a much colder winter than we've had. But I
remember going back to the late seventy what was at
six and seven with the blizzards that we faced when
I was twenty thirty forty below. I was at the
freezer Bowl until halftime. Not fun, and then we had
a stretch of warm spells and winters. Well change. Then
if you go back to all the dire predictions of

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al Gore and Greta Thunberg, we're all gonna die. The
sea level is gonna rise, and it was all gonna
happen in well several years ago now. So I'm throwing
a barber streisand flag and it is not is settled science,
thinking of doctor Fauci, which we know wasn't settled science either,
the stuff he was telling us. But how many times
have they changed that hockey stick projection and how many

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you know sphinters did they pull figures out in order
to come up to some conclusion about how the globes
is getting warmer? Anyway, with that background, China has worked
this religion to its advantage. And if you think you're
free of propaganda from the Chinese Communist Party about for
you know, you'd be believing in windmills and solar panels

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saving us from ourselves, you might want to check the
money trail, which leads right back to we ask Chinese
Communist Party, Beijing whatever, because they make all this stuff.
Walter Russell Meade from The Wall Street Journal pointing out
that Trump's pulling back on this stuff, but also step

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back from the United States and its perception and attitude
towards these crazy climate policies. Look at the European Union,
Look at what Britain's doing their fast tracking nuke plants
now why because their economy needs it. Portia and other
automobile manufacturers in Germany are now reconsidering their their efforts
to go full electric vehicle and thank God for it.

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Why because no one's buying them, and presumably to I
think they're faced with the reality China's gonna end up
cornering the market on electric vehicles anyway. Walter writes, so
much is happening so quickly in Washington these days that
Donald Trump's warren green climate Agina has passed almost unnoticed.
Steps like pulling out of the Paris Agreement, dropping electric

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vehicle mandates, ending offshore leasing for wind projects, and fast
tracking fossil fuel infrastructure would have dominated the news in
quieter times, but Trump's climate policy matters for reasons that
go beyond the climate debate.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
This is the point.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
China has made Western climate policy a major focus of
its economic strategy. By pulling the rug out from under
the global green agenda, the Trump administration is adding significantly
to the economic pressure on Beijing. Call it brilliant. Chinese
planning are gross Western incompetence, But the only real winner
from the green agenda that Western governments have done so

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much to impose on the world is Beijing. Solar power cells,
wind turbines, electric vehicles, and the batteries that keep them moving.
China has swiftly established dominance in one critical industry and
supply chain after another. This was eminently foreseeable. The Chinese
Communist Parties' economic planners in Beijing are the most effective
technocrats the world has ever known, eclipsing the fumbling Soviet

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planners of the Khrushchev and Brezhnev eras. Give them a
set of targets to timetable and list of technologies to promote,
and they will coordinate state policy, banking subsidies, and market
forces to produce world beating industries in record time. The
European and American architects of the Green Transition were unintentionally
creating a playing field ideally suited to China's core strengths,

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and Beijing took full advantage, most notably if I can
interject and add to the point here using coal. But
even the most brilliant planners make mistakes. China today is
a combination of extraordinary economic and industrial success and monumental failure.
The ruinous demogra demographic consequences of its one child policy,

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the explosive mix of financial and social pressures wrapped up
in the real estate bubble, and the excess of industrial
capacity resulting from decades of aggressive state planning loom ever
larger over China's future. Trump's propose upending of global climate
policy would transform China's drive to dominate the energy transition
from a major wind to an expensive misfire for Beijing,

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and please, Dear God, let this happen. The net zero Agenda,
a set of targets and strategies by Western governments and
climate diplomats to arrest global warming by limiting emissions, is
the most audacious international effort in diplomatic history. It seeks
to persuade or compel every country in a planet to
make a transition to energy production that does not add

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carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, which is blank and plant food.
Cost of the transmission easily runs into the trillions of dollars.
The social and economic impact will transform everything from agriculture
to manufacturing and enterprise. This ambitious requires enduring political support,
and as time goes by, the cost of energy transition

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inexorably rise in opposition. Yay to the project grows as
more interests are affected. You mean this is going to
impact me? Yeah, Look at your energy bill and see
if the lights are even on proponents understood this and
counted on three factors to ensure the progress forward to
net zero continued even as opponents dug in their heels. First,

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growing costs to climate change ricocheted through the economy, driving
up insurance cost disastrapron areas, for example, as weather risk grew,
more voters would support net zero policies. Second, industries that
invested in climate friendly technologies, like automobile makers investing billions
and EV production facilities would lobby politicians to protect their
investments by maintaining the regulations and subsidies that made them profitable. Third,

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as net zero friendly industries employed more workers, these beneficiaries
and net zero policies would support measures that protected their jobs.
While a voter concerned about climate change is indeed grown
amid escalating damage from unusual weather events. China's success at
capturing the net zero industrial sector has reduced support for

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net zero across the Western world. Despite investing heavily and
EV producing facilities, many Western car companies fear Chinese EV
competition more than they hope for large profits in the
EV sector. With solar power cells and wind turbines mostly
made in China, there are fewer green jobs in Western
countries to pull voters towards net zero policies. Climate warriors

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will regroup, but for now, Trump's attacks on net zero
are working. Europeans are rethinking their green agenda, and China
is coping with massive overcapacity in its net zero industries.
Solar panel makers, battery producers, and eed manufacturers all face
glutted markets following prices and surging inventories. Tariffs looms. Both

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European and American rivals seek to forestall ruinous competition from
Hungary states subsidized Chinese firms. Economic planning assumes a rational,
predictable world, but Donald Trump's return to power and the
mailstream of change he brings things reminds us that our
world is a chaotic place. In times like ours, especially

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with one technological revolution after another reshaping the economic, social,
and political landscapes, the world is radically unpredictable. Neither Chinese
nor net zero technocrats have the skills needed for effective
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Four to fifty five KR City Talk Station. We'll give
Jim the last word in this hour. Jim, Welcome to
the Morning Show. Thanks for calling.

Speaker 9 (01:12:12):
Good morning, Brian. When was that Nazi rally? Wasn't that
like on Saturday? And think the what the Nazi rally
and Lincoln Heights.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
It was Friday? Joe said, I couldn't recall yeah Friday, Friday.

Speaker 9 (01:12:26):
Yeah, and they have achieved exactly what they want and
they're still in the news. They got people all up
in arms and keep saying. They still had news reports
on it last night and you watch what happened. It's
like these idiots are staying there making fools themselves. Yeah,
and what caused the problem was all that people that
paid attention to them. I mean the violence started when

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the people that were complaining about them being there started
trying to attack them.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Both the police, the local police and the hell Cutty
sheriff both said they didn't do anything illegal. They were
on the sidewalk exercising the right to free speech, as
stupid as it was and as much idiots as they
revealed themselves to be. No criminal activity. So I don't
know what else to say.

Speaker 9 (01:13:13):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry. Let's face it, Nazis compared
to the Males people and the Silence people were pikers
and uh in this country, we have problems with the
Black Panthers and Antifa. Yeah, and you know, it's like
they're idiots. The Nazis says they got no power, Well

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they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Yeah, you know, I struggle to believe that they even
are still in existence, as awful and ridiculous as their
philosophy is. Maybe there are a bunch of them out there.
I just don't know. They tend to keep their heads down,
and they tend to keep really, really quiet because they
don't enjoy any, if maybe minors support among the general population.

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If they stuck their heads out, revealed who they are
by uncovering their faces, then we'd all know who they
are and who to stay the hell away from. They
also might invite a little bit of retribution. They might
get attacked, they might get docked, all that kind of
stuff that seems to happen on a regular basis. So
let the Nazis stick their heads out, we can figure
out who they are, and then we'll decide. You can

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go ahead and decide what you want to do about it.
But you're right, Jim, I think paying zero attention to
them is probably the default measure we should be taking.
Appreciate that six fifty six fifty five K see the
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and follow by Steve Gooden with his expertise on PG
sitting felt he lost on appeal.

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What's the next step? So Pippy can stick around.

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Seven oh six Here, fifty five KERCD Talk Station.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Happy Wednesday, Great Wednesday line, and thank you Joe Strecker,
Steve Good. At the bottom of the hour, legal expert
on PG sitting Feld losing his appeal. Congressman Thomas Massey
coming at him an hour and Judge Edertapaultan at eight
thirty and as always on Wednesdays at this time, welcome
back Jack add In for the big picture.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
It's always a pleasure to have you on my program sir.

Speaker 10 (01:15:26):
How are you, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 10 (01:15:29):
There was one highlight from the game apart from Philly's
d line, and I was hearing the crowd seeing take
me home Country Roads because it got me thinking, Brian,
about how so many businesses are coming home thanks to
the guy who got some of the loudest cheers President Trump.
Until now, businesses, especially manufacturing, have been deserting America, not

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just geographically. The biggest business has deserted the American middle class.
They deserted their own neighbors. The way Nike years ago,
their woke owners in Seattle shut down American factories so
they could fill Chinese sweatshops with children and other wage slaves.
Now we got to be fair. After our Civil war,

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the industrial revolution here in America was brutal too. Many
American owners exploited workers, including freed slaves drawn from farms
to cities, and until the Supreme Court and Congress declared
a crime, American businesses also exploited children. But there was
a difference folks.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
First.

Speaker 10 (01:16:40):
As American big business got off the ground, some of
the most prominent owners grew more humane for moral and
business reasons. A caller last Hour was talking about Henry Ford.
Old Henry wanted factory workers to be able to buy
his cars, so Ford started pain the highest in the industry,

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and rivals found they had to compete for good workers.
Ford initially resisted unions. They didn't get to their first
contract until nineteen forty one. Some private businesses still resist
being forced to unionize, and that is their right, but
voluntary negotiated cooperation between owners and workers that led to

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an earlier golden age. In the nineteen forties and fifties,
when another automaker could boast. It actually became a hit song.
You remember, Brian, what's good for General Motors is good
for the USA and America. We've often talked about this
because it's so remarkable. America did not just care about America.

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The Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe's factories after World War II,
just as General MacArthur helped rebuild our former enemies in
Japan in an attempt to lure them away from communism.
We also welcomed red China into the Community of Nations.
We gave them favored nation trade status. China imposed huge

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tariffs on America, but hungary for cheap labor. Self proclaimed
free traders here in America, led by establishment Republicans, fought
against reciprocal terriffs and they still do even worse. So
called free trade deals like NAFTA and tax breaks incentivized

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companies like Nike and countless others to abandon America. The
height of his hypocrisy was seen self righteous wolf businesses
crush American companies with often corrupt, counterproductive environmental regulations, including
the Paris Accords and ev Mandates, while not requiring that

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China and India adhere to the same regulations. And you
were just talking to Ryan about that great Walter Russell
Mead article that showed China not only doesn't adhere to
its own regulations, China manufactures the green energy crap the
rest of us.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Have to buy, using coal, using coal fired energy to
do it.

Speaker 10 (01:19:14):
So we knew once a week. There's one more thing
that distinguished Henry Ford, the old man, a very flawed man,
yet in his own way, a patriot that distinguished him
from a lot of today's business owners. Ford lived in Dearborn, Michigan,
and then Detroit. He and his family built Detroit into

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the most prosperous and culturally one of the richest cities
in America. Ford was immensely wealthy, yet he always considered
his neighbors to be the folks in Michigan, not the
so called elites in Davos, Switzerland. We had a business
tycoon like here, Nory Ford. Here in Cincinnati, Carl Linder,

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and there are others. They enriched and endowed and cared
about Cincinnati, about America, about the free world. Our President
Donald John Trump is a patriot in the mold of
Henry Ford and Carl Linder. Not perfect, not to everybody's taste,
but a man who believes the heart of our nation,

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the heart of any nation, is a self sufficient, well
educated middle class, one that expands and opens itself to
anyone of merit and hard work, who's willing to observe
our laws and become not an aggrieved member of some
separate race or ethnicity, or creed or sexual preference, but

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simply an American who respects everybody, who's eager to compete
on a level playing field with other nations to grow
the economic pie and help the entire world prosper. Those
aren't just words. Look at what we're seeing now, businesses
coming home country roads to America. Just one example, Henry

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Ford's old company, the Ford Motor Company, under Biden, was
going to build a one point six billion dollar manufacturing plant,
the biggest auto plant in the world, not in Michigan,
not even in South Carolina, but in Mexico, using a
loophole in the USMCA trade agreement. Until even before taking

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the oath of office, Trump threatened Ford with monster terrace
and now that plant's going to be hiring thousands of
workers in Flint, Michigan. Or take one more example of
an American company leaving what I consider it to be
a foreign country, certainly when it comes to American values.
Gavin Newsom's California. Mark Zuckerberg is now in talks to

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reincorporate Meta in Texas. Because if you believe in America, Brian,
if you believe in growing our middle class, you cannot
kiss up to corrupt, authoritarian big government regulators federal or state.
You need freedom to innovate, to expand, to hire American workers.

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That's the promise of America to citizens and legal immigrants
from all over the world. And the Super Bowl crowd
was cheering because Donald Trump makes good on his promises.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
What are you saying?

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
I couldn't agree with you more. And I'm just as
you're saying all this, and obviously you're always right, Jack,
I haven't never an argument with your valid points, logical
and reasonable. Amesy, you know you married a smart guy.
Come on, and you married out of your element too.
I know I say that all the time, that's what

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smart men do. But no, I agree with you completely.
And what I'm thinking, though, is this crazy reaction from
the Democrats to what he had has accomplished so far
and his goals and his directors which are resonating with
the American people, which are literally what he told the

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American citizenry that he would do if he was elected.
It got him elected, that he beat the living hell
out of Kamala Harris. And the reasons a lot of
the reasons why are because the policies that he promises
what he's he delivering on, and the American people seem
to like it, closing down the border, getting rid of
the criminal elements, and you know, making life easier, getting

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rid of regulations and all the above, and that they
are fighting this tooth and nail. The work that Elon
Musk is doing that oh my god, he has access
to taxpair of records like it myself. So do literally
thousands of people in government. I mean because of the
Wiki League stuff. We know that the NSA spies on
every single human being in America stock with thousands of employees.

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Where's the screening and yelling and wailing and gnashing his
teeth about that? You know, Musk has to do a job,
and I presume he's got a security clearance and he
is the one that's supposed to be ferreting out fraud,
waste and abuse. And they're trying to come up with
every conceivable argument to stop him from doing it. But
in so doing, they are advocating, for example, one hundred

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and fifty year old people getting Social Security techs. We
know that that can't be possible, but that's what's going on.
I mean, that person's dead. Someone else is getting the money.
People would know social Security numbers, paying out of a
system that's already broke. Asked the Congressional budget.

Speaker 10 (01:24:28):
All necessarily, Brian, I mean, after all, Nancy Pelosi is
still getting those checks. She's pushing one hundred and fifty
not not her face, but the rest of.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Her She's also worth like one hundred million dollars on
top of it.

Speaker 10 (01:24:43):
You're assuming that both parties are trying to draw from
the same well of voters. But that's just not the case.
As we talked about, every time a job's report came
out during the Biden years, his votes and those jobs
went mostly to foreigners and government workers, often unionized government workers.

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We're going to be talking about this sometime soon. It's
why they're fighting so hard now against cutting the fat
and corruption in governments and cutting any government workers whatsoever.
They've got those people locked up, they won't have us
locked up unless we screw up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Well, we outnumber them by vast majorities. You know, the
American people spoke in November and all the government workers
who were voting for their own best interest by trying
to get Kamala Harris elected lost because the vast majority
of us don't work for government.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
And I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
The coal miners got put out of business because of
the Green agenda, and they were told to go ahead
and get into the tech sector. Go ahead, there are
other jobs you can go on into. Well, sucks to
be you this time. We got to save money. The
government is overspending by trillions of dollars a year. Our
debt service has gotten so much that it's beyond the
already bloated military budget. We cannot survive this way. Trump

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said it rather Elon Musk said it the other day. Listen,
I'm just trying to basically save us from ourselves.

Speaker 10 (01:26:06):
We've got to make sure that our representatives are dually
elected representatives do some of that work. Also, you're going
to be talking with Tom Massey soon.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
I'm a big fan.

Speaker 10 (01:26:16):
I think I was the first person in local media
to interview him when he threw his head into the
race so many years ago. But you know you can't
be knee jerk. You don't support Donald Trump's proposals just
because they're coming from Trump or from Johnson or anybody else.
But you know we have to agree on an agenda,
and we have less time than you think to enact it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Amen to that exclamation point underscored all caps, Jack added him,
it's been the big picture and I appreciate your thoughtful
insight and comments and joining the program every Wednesday at
seven oh five. I'll look forward to next Wednesday and
in between now and then, best of health and love
to you and your better half, Jennleen.

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Seven twenty three fifty bout KRCD talk station Happy Wednesday
segment Steve Gooden PG sitting Feld two to one decision.
He is he now has lost his appeal. So question
is he gonna be going back to jail. They're gonna
leave him out. They're gonna keep him out while they
make efforts to have the Supreme Court review the decision.

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It remains to be seen, but Steve Gooden brilliant analysis.
We'll hear from him the next segment of the Meantime
let's jump over the phone see what Greg's got this morning. Greg,
thanks for calling the Morning Show.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
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Porter right dot com, all right, you saw I PG
sitting Feld two to one opinion six Circuit US Court
of Appeals said, well, they called it a difficult case,
but they allowed the jury to decide the credibility of
the witnesses and his intent in soliciting a political action
contribution in connection with this chidiedam nonduque guy this real

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estate development. But the dissent highlighted some of the problems
with this because political contributions are a form of political
participation and they're protected to a large degree. And the
descent said, this may INCENTIVI had more and more prosecutions,
it would be hard to decide. Uh And and they so,

(01:34:00):
I guess overall, what's your take on this? And do
you see it to be problematic that they didn't overturn
the conviction.

Speaker 13 (01:34:09):
No, I don't see it as problematic at all that
they didn't overturn the conviction. I mean, look, I was
in the unfortunate spot of somebody who lived through a
lot of astrama at city Hall. You know, I was
appointed to one of the seats, not to the pastor seat,
after he went to was indicted and ultimately went to jail.
So there really was a culture of corruption problem at

(01:34:31):
city Hall, and I think that was what, in their way,
the federal prosecutors were trying to address and trying to
get at. And we know it was a very widespread
investigation that looked at a lot of different people and
ultimately charged three. So I don't have a problem, you know,
with that at all. I sat through the trial. I
saw about ninety percent of the trial and almost all

(01:34:51):
of the testimony, and in my mind, it was very
clear from like the second or third day that the
jury was going to convict him of something. And there
was just a visceral reaction in the room by the jurors.
And this was during COVID time. They're wearing masks and
you could still see that they were aghast at some
of the testimony. The only thing that this court struggled with,

(01:35:11):
and I think the jury didn't struggle with it, but
this court did, was this idea that he solicited the
funds for the quid pro quote transaction into his political
action committee and didn't keep them personally like the other
two did. Denard and Pastor took money personally, they spent
the money personally.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
I think Jess was in cash.

Speaker 13 (01:35:31):
No question there that if they changed their votes or
positions based on a cash payment personally, that's you know, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
Not a problem. I mean, that's that's a crime. The
quid pro quo period.

Speaker 13 (01:35:41):
In this case, the idea, the idea that the money
went into a political action committee, I think gave them
some pause.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
The shas now Badian says, He's like, look.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
The line is blurried, but there is a line.

Speaker 13 (01:35:52):
Under current Supreme Court precedent. This is something that is
still equid pro quo. It's still illegal, and we're going
to have to defer to what the jury heard during
this almost three week trial and all the witnesses they
heard from, and their conclusion that it was a quid profile,
which I think that that was loose in the room
for the first couple of days, particularly some of the
audio and video recordings of PG and in Duke Way

(01:36:15):
and these FBI agents who are working under cover pretending
to be developers from Nashville. I mean they got him
promising litigation and promising to pressure the poort authority to
help them, you know, with the deal, all kinds of things.
And I think the worst part of it is when
they offered him a contribution for his help, he actually
didded them up and said, no, actually I'd like more.

(01:36:36):
That's that's problematic now. Of course, Look he's just soliciting
campaign contributions. What I do think is interesting is it
is a split decision of these were three Trump appointed judges,
it was two to one, and even Eric Murphy, Judge
Murphy who was a former Hire solicitor, brilliant guy, Trump appointee,
even though he agreed with letting the convission stays. All

(01:37:00):
the calls for the Supreme Court to take this up
and kind of review this and try to help draw
the line a little more clearly. But even he ultimately
agreed and said this was something that needs to be
needs to be done.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
So my guess is that they.

Speaker 13 (01:37:16):
Will seek an en bock hearing of the full sixth Circuit,
and that is unsuccessful, which it rarely is, they'll probably
try to go to the US Supreme Court.

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in terms of you're agreeing with the upholding his conviction
on appeal rather than inviting additional litigation, which is what

(01:40:46):
what the dissent was kind of in part based on,
you know, this is just this is so close to
call that we shouldn't uphold it because it's just gonna
encourage more more politicians to be called under the carpet.
I think it'll have the polar opposite effect. I think
it'll force politicians to keep the bar really really high
and make sure they avoid anything that might be construed
ever as a quid pro quo.

Speaker 13 (01:41:10):
I think that's the idea behind the prosecution Brian. And
it's like, if you know, I've worked in a US
attorney's office, and what they typically try to do is
focus on de terrence. Now, like one of the worst
kept secrets in the legal community is you know that
the federal prosecutors have actually pretty limited resources, and when

(01:41:30):
they go after an area of crime, you know they
have to you know, make examples and try to pick
a high a series of high profile cases in an
effort to sort of helpefully have a long term deterrence effect.
We saw them do that locally with some of the
doctor cases they did during the opioid crisis and pharmacies
they went after. They couldn't go after them all, so

(01:41:53):
their only hope was to do a handful of really
high profile prosecutions that would be in the media and
that that would actually deter some of the crime.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
That's why, you know, we always often joke that the.

Speaker 13 (01:42:04):
Federal prosecutors prosecute by press release as much as anything else,
because they really want people to know what they're doing.
So that's absolutely right. I mean, there's a deterrence factor here.
We know that this investigation went all over the state.
They looked at small city council's, township trustees all the way,
uther than the northern part of Ohio that came out
during the trial. I think the idea was to try

(01:42:24):
to get around the state geographically focus on local elected officials.
Under this quid pro quote theory. It's not clear that
the task force and the undercover agents are even still
operating in the area.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
In fact, the way they testified, I think it's very
very unlikely.

Speaker 13 (01:42:39):
So I think the idea here was to have some
sort of deterrence, and they probably knew that the law,
you know, was at least it's very clear as written
in the United States Code, but some of the Supreme
Court cases around it make it more difficult to enforce.
It was an aggressive move, but you do, at the
end of the day, have these three elected officials who

(01:43:01):
are all three either call it on tape, text, email,
or some electronic means saying if you give me money
to my campaign or me money personally, I will change
my vote. And that's a problem. And I do think
if nothing else that that has been cleaned up now.
The flip side is I think it also has made
the folks at city Hall almost terrified to engage in

(01:43:22):
basic constituent services for fear that they're being recorded. I
think it's actually having to effect the other way, as
someone who has just trying to drive the city streets
this morning in the snow that really wasn't meaningfully cleaned off,
you know, I can tell you it's just, you know,
I think it's a chilling effect almost the other way.
We haven't seen a lot of big new development deals

(01:43:42):
since all this happened. It was a big credible period there,
so so it's worse from that standpoint, and that's not uncommon.
But you know, I think you know, I'm less concerned
about the frankly, the nitty gritty legal part of it,
which I think is going to play out however it plays.
I think there is a splim chance the Supreme Court
will take a look at this, But I said, it

(01:44:06):
has to turn some of the behavior, at least in
my experience.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
As to your other point, I may just be a
reflection of the poor quality of the elected official or
the lack of funds to get any projects done, because
we do have a financial situation going on the city
of Cincinnati. But beyond that now is going back to
the point in the Supreme Court you said slim chance,
and that's kind of what I thought. And you also
mentioned earlier least in so far as having the entire

(01:44:31):
Sixth Circuit judge, all the six Circuit judge panels hit
here in unbanked rehearing of this, you suggest that that
was a slim oppor slim possibility as well. But behind
the scenes, the law that governs this is it something
that needs to be clarified much such as the Supreme
Court might very well consider it, because one, we can't
have this gray area floating around out there anymore.

Speaker 13 (01:44:55):
Well, you know, I don't think the area is that
gray personally. I mean, really, what it boils down to
is the Bribery Statute, which has been in the General
Criminal Code for you know, forty fifty years in its
current forum, and the Hobbs Act, this idea that bribery
by a public official is uniquely bad and a kind

(01:45:16):
of unique and separate crime because you're depriving people if
they quote honest goods and services they could expect from
an elected official. I don't think that's likely to be touched.
What's that issue is this case called McDonald, which is
a US Supreme Court case from about four or five
years ago that deals with the governor of Virginia. There's
a lot of where he was accused of doing quid

(01:45:36):
pro quote type things for his donors, but really, when
you got to the bottom of that case, he wasn't
engaged in what they call official acts. He was helping
the donors, you know, with little things around the side.
He was introducing them to people who might help them
with government contracts, but not actually steering the contract their way,
giving them meetings and calling them out on in speeches

(01:45:58):
and things of that nature. They could never really prove
that he moved any legislation directly for them or moved
money directly too. And he helped them, but they didn't
do much. And that's really what that case hung on.
And that's what Sittenfeld's team that has been arguing from
the beginning is that, look, this wasn't a true official act.
PGI was always out there pushing development deals. He was
pro development. This was something he would have been doing anyway.

(01:46:21):
It was more akin to that. But in the reality,
you know, he actually factually crossed the line here to
callingport authority officials and trying to introduce legislation and you know,
and things of that nature for a project we now
know didn't even exist. Really, it was just something that
that the FEDS undercover agents.

Speaker 5 (01:46:39):
Had totally cooked up. A real location, but a fake project.

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
So it is different here.

Speaker 13 (01:46:44):
For Actually, I think the McDonald's case is something that
they might one day want to revisit because it does
seem to open a door for arguments that could be
made about whether or not a government official does something
that they true quit well, but I don't think those
are these are good facts for him to take up
I mean they might. I mean, I do note that

(01:47:06):
the new Trump Justice administration really does seem to be
casting a a a tough I I guess on public
corruption investigations. I mean, they've seen press reports that they're
kind of folding up the Eric Adams investigation in New
York at Trump's direction. And I do know that they've

(01:47:27):
been looking at the kind of Foreign Corruption Act prosecutions
which have been very popular that have kind of caught
up people like Paul Manifort kind of from the Trump circle.

Speaker 5 (01:47:36):
And I've read that they're.

Speaker 13 (01:47:38):
Telling those folks to stand down in the Justice Department
on any new cases until the law can be reviewed
and revisited. So maybe this, you know, ironically PG sudentvald
who is a very very progressive, traditional democratic politician, I mean,
the Trump election in the new Trump Justice Department might
be one of his few avenue is to get this

(01:48:01):
looked at again in some way. But in terms of
just really revamping the law, I think it's pretty clear
if you're if you actually find yourself in a conversation
as an elected official where someone is linking directly linking
a campaign contribution to an actual vote, that's a quid
pro quote, and that's something you can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Stop it right then and there in debt in its
tracks in terms of him staying and will he remain
out of jail? I know he's released from jail pending
appeal now the appeals over, will they let him out
and pending the uh Supreme Court's review of the request
for retister ferrari or his request for an end bank hearing.
And how long does that process take? Usually Steve.

Speaker 13 (01:48:42):
Well, I'll tell you it's it's this is the stuff
that drives people nuts about the federal criminal system. The
answer to that question isn't exactly clear. You know, at
this point, you know, while the en banc process is
going forward, which could take you know, a couple of months,
the he is likely to remain out, even though the
Bureau of Prisons, the Federal Bureau of Prisons actually has

(01:49:05):
some administrative ability where they could actually, now that the
appeal has been resolved in the in the government's favor,
they actually could set a date require him to report.
In all likelihood, they're going to let this on boc
piece play out, and then it would really be up
to the Supreme Court if they take the case. To
grant another stay because then the Sixth Circuit would lose jurisdiction,

(01:49:26):
and because they didn't send the case back down for
any kind of error, you know, Judge Cole, and the
District Court has no jurisdiction to inter a state too.
So if the on boc piece doesn't work, you know,
then he will you know, he will likely be and
the Supreme Court piece doesn't work, then the Bureau of
Prisons will just finally set a report date for him.

(01:49:47):
Because it's an no violent offense. In my experience, they're
not going to send marshals out to go pick him up.
You know, they'll do something a little more civilized, as.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
They like to say.

Speaker 13 (01:49:55):
They'll probably just say, he, look, you need to be here,
you know, three weeks from Saturday, and they yeah, they
give people time to wrap up.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
There first, so get a tooth prize.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
Amazingly, that is not very clear.

Speaker 13 (01:50:07):
Yeah, exactly exactly, Steve Goodden about another ten months to go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Yeah, and you know, by the time the Supreme Court hearing,
if they had granted certain heard the case, he'd already
have served his time. So I don't know if moot
comes in or if they just give him up a
post conviction.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
I don't know. You can't unring the bell having time serve.

Speaker 5 (01:50:28):
That's all I know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Steve Gooden, God bless you, sir. Thanks for you sharing
your time with my listeners and me and giving us
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That may be that, yes, And there'd be more that
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Speaker 15 (01:52:57):
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And I have no desire to go over there.

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Ye and Daniel Cameron and the lead. You know, he
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Can we eliminate the Department of Education? I know they
has canceled a one hundred million dollar DEI contract, and
that in and of itself is bad, But you got
what eight hundred and eighty one million dollars in contracts
coming out of the Department of Education. I guess I
have to ask, maybe perhaps a rhetorical question, what the
hell is the Department of Education doing to educate our children?

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
That's a great question.

Speaker 15 (01:54:04):
There are four thousand bureaucrats at the Department of Education
making an average of one hundred thousand dollars a piece
per year. That is that's money. Okay, there's three thousand
counties in the United States and we've got four thousand bureaucrats,
So every county could get another school teacher, and you

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could pay one hundred thousand dollars a year if you
just take all the money that's being wasted in DC,
not to mention the money that's being misdirected by the
Department of Education. Less than ten percent of K through
twelve education is funded by the federal Department of Education.
Yet at least half of the bureaucracy at the state

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and local level is caused by the Department of Education.
You would have more money for teaching children if you
just gave it to the states or let the states
keep it. That's why I introduced HR. Eight ninety nine.
It's I think it's the shortest bill in Congress, Like
it's one sentence long. I found the problem is my
colleagues all they do is read the title. They don't

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read the bill. So I made a bill whose text
was about as short as the title.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 15 (01:55:14):
It says, on December thirty first, twenty twenty six, the
Department of Education shall terminate.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
That is the whole bill. Oh that's beautiful.

Speaker 15 (01:55:25):
We're keeping it simple.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
Stupid. Yeah, well, you know, you know you could call
it that. The bill could be called that.

Speaker 15 (01:55:32):
The only complaint I've got is people want to know
why we have to wait till twenty twenty six. Now,
in all seriousness, there are a lot of things at
the Department of Education. People say, well, what would you
do with these things if the Department of Education cease
to exist? So, for instance, student loans, well those could

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go to treasury. Treasury could manage student loans. Sure, hopefully
we're going to have people pay them back. The other
question that you get is, well, what about head Start?

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 15 (01:56:04):
Head Start ain't even in the Department of Education. Head
Start is under the under HHS. And then they say, well,
what about the school lunch program? Don't you care about
the school lunch program? The school lunch program is under
the USDA. Yeah, so all of the stuff that people
care about that they think the Department of Education does,
they don't even do, so get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Get rid of it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
I don't think anybody be any worse for work, except
for the employees that are making fat salaries for probably
doing nothing more than propagandizing our young people.

Speaker 15 (01:56:37):
Well, and I don't know. I don't want to ask
how old.

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
You are, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
I'll bestie sixty in September.

Speaker 15 (01:56:43):
Okay, sixty, so you're six years older than me. You
made it to the tenth grade before there was a
Department of education? Yeah, because I made it to the
fourth grade before there was the Department of Education. And like,
how did you how did you even learn to read
Brian without a Department of Education?

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
I asked the same question out loud about all these
you know, grand and glorious complexes that you know, building
these huge stadiums and huge, massive, luxury filled buildings, kind
of like colleges are now on a high school level,
and I think to myself, you know, I remember taking
classes in a trailer parked outside Della High Junior High School,

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and you know we still manage to get and learn
our health class and that kind of thing. So you know,
you don't need all the bills and whistle. The same
thing goes for the the pay course stadium. Do you
need a disco ball in your locker room to get
a game played? I mean, do you need anything more
than just a locker and a shower? The answer is
obviously no. Anyway, moving over, I had an idea I

(01:57:43):
raised with Senator Rand Paul yesterday, and I kind of
want to bounced off you considering what Doge is doing,
ferreting out the fraud, wast and abuse, or at least
providing us with great illustrations of where our hard earned
labor turned into tax dollars is going. Can we take
those eight seven thousand irs ages and use them as
auditors of the various departments to assist in this important work.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
Absolutely, I'm not.

Speaker 15 (01:58:08):
Sure that all of them got hired yet or they're
all on probation. Probably redirect all of that effort into
something useful. And you use the words waste fraud and abuse.
That used to be a bipartisan term.

Speaker 12 (01:58:25):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:58:26):
You could get up and give a speech and say,
we've got to find the waste fraud and abuse. And
you could give that speech at the county level, the
state level, or the federal level, and nobody could tell
if you were a Republican or a Democrat. But now
Democrats are on the side of waste fraud abuse. They're
literally advocating for waste fraud abuse because they are so

(01:58:46):
upset about Doge and Elon Musk, one of the smartest
men in the world, finding government waste fraud abuse.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Well, I got a big kick of not his initial statement,
but Democratic Representative Quisium Fume went on a rant the
other day talking about a street fight, you know, the
party that says we shouldn't be violent, And then he
had to have his spokesman come out and explain what
he meant by that, part of which included wanting to

(01:59:18):
ferret out fraud, waste, and abuse, which I'm like, hold on,
you can't reconcile these two things, you know, he says.
Congresson Infumi supports many of the things that makement run better,
including ending cost overruns of the Department of Defense, tackling
the underworld of fraud and improper payments associated with government spending,
and establishing a scorecard within agencies which measure their ability
to curb waste. Oh, that's why he's angry about what

(01:59:42):
Elon Musk is doing.

Speaker 15 (01:59:44):
Well, and listen, a lot of this stuff. The courts
are already trying to stop Trump from.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Doing forty nine lawsuits so far.

Speaker 15 (01:59:53):
You know, and people have asked me, why don't you
impeach these judges. That's certainly one of the Mike Lee
is talking about limiting their jurisdiction for national injunctions, and
that's another solution but those are efforts that take lots
of votes in the Senate. For instance, to impeach a judge,

(02:00:14):
you need sixty seven votes in the Senate. You're not
going to get Democrats to impeach Democrat judges. And then
the other things require, you know, massive changes to our
judicial system. What we need to do is every time
that Doge finds waste fraud abuse and every time Donald
Trump moves to eliminate it, we need to introduce a

(02:00:36):
bill that does the same thing. And then we have
a process here in Congress. It's an expedited process called
reconciliation that deals with spending, where you only need fifty
one votes in the Senate to pass it. We should
be putting everything that Doge finds into this big reconciliation
bill you might be hearing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
About on the news.

Speaker 15 (02:00:57):
Every one of those things should go into reconciliation. That's
the bill that can pass the Senate with fifty one
votes and pass the House with two hundred and eighteen votes. Instead,
all they're fixated on in this reconciliation bill are tax cuts. Now,
tax cuts are great, but if you cut taxes and
increase spending, or cut taxes and fail to cut spending. Yeah,

(02:01:20):
you're going to get some economic growth from cutting taxes,
but not enough to make up for all of the
lost revenue to the government. We need to cut spending
when we cut taxes. One way to do that is
to take all of these Doge recommendations and put them
in this big spending bill they're calling a reconciliation bill.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
What's the hold up, Congressman. This sounds like a brilliant idea.

Speaker 15 (02:01:42):
My colleagues just are not serious about this. I mean,
the reason Dog is getting stuff done is it's one person.
As soon as you get a committee, it gets almost impossible.
And then when you give four hundred and thirty five
people involved, it's almost astronomically impossible to try and get
something done.

Speaker 2 (02:02:00):
Well, there in lines the challenge. I mean, you know,
I'm gonna have Judseph Paul Tunnell on the next segment,
and he and I both agree. We are not big
fans of the Imperial presidency because we appreciate what the
founding fathers put together by way of checks and balances.
But if Congress doesn't ever do anything and continues fiddling
while Rome is burning, then it invites that type of behavior.

Speaker 15 (02:02:23):
Well, I tweeted this a few days ago, that Doge
is on a collision course with the Uniparty, and the
Uniparty still runs Congress. You know, I know people don't
like me to speak ill of another Republican, but Mike
Johnson is still a spokesperson for the Uniparty. This hasn't

(02:02:44):
been resolved yet. There is a collision course between the
Uniparty and Doge coming up. And I don't think Elon
Musk suffers any fools and when he finds out, my
colleagues here just are not serious about cutting spending. In fact,
I think we're gonna have an omnibus bill that's going
to fund USAID.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
I'm going to make a prediction on your show.

Speaker 15 (02:03:06):
The government funding that it was due September of last year.
It's for this fiscal year. It's been kicked down the
road twice, the can has and it's ended up in March.
And in March they are going to probably pass an
omnibus bill here.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
I won't be voting for it.

Speaker 15 (02:03:24):
It is most likely going to include all the usa
ID stuff that Elon Musk is trying to stop or
has identified, and Trump is trying to stop. So I'm
interested to see what happens when those two things collide.
When you have my colleagues here in Congress, when you
have Mike Johnson stand up and say, well, we got

(02:03:45):
to put all this stuff, this usaid in here to
get these Democrat votes or else they won't vote for it,
and the fiscal Conservatives won't vote for it, and we
got to avoid a shutdown, So we got to fund
all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
No Waite Fort Waite for it.

Speaker 15 (02:04:03):
The best they can do is hide it so that
the news doesn't report on it. They're going to try
to have some kind of weapon of mass distraction going
on when they pass this omnibus in March.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
Let's pause, we'll bring back Congress from Massy. Maybe we'll
have some good news to talk about. Come back from
this brief break, Hang around upright back.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio Stage.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
Twenty to fifty five KRCD Talk Station Brian Thomas with
Congressman Thomas Massey. One of the few good ones. Sad
news about the omnibus bill. The anticipates, but what do
we expect? I think it was Senator Ram Paul yesterday
on the program Congress from Massy oh, by the way,
judging of Paula Tano is listening right now. Oh great,
and he's waving, so I can see him looking forward

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to having him on the program next.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
And you know, we love that man.

Speaker 2 (02:04:48):
I know he loves you too. Got a mutual love
fest here among the three of US. Senator Ram Paul
I think it was him who mentioned that beyond the
what eight hundred and fifty billion dollars we got going
to the American military, they're going to increase military spending
even though they can't pass their own damn on. It's
like seven or eight times in a row. I mean,
I hope does just comes unleashed on the defense spending.

(02:05:09):
Not that I'm against depending on America's military. I'm a
huge support of the American veterans in the American military.
But eight hundred and fifty billion dollars, you know, there
has got to be a just outrageous amount in there.

Speaker 15 (02:05:21):
Well, I've got family members that serve in the military.
Nearly everybody does or has the best friend that serves
in the military, and they can all tell you about
waste fraud abuse there, especially these government contracts. I have
a friend who works for the government and it's his job,

(02:05:41):
he's an engineer, to review government contracts to look for
waste fraud abuse. They believe it or not, this already
exists within our government. Now, what happens every time he finds,
like a jar lid, we're paying ten thousand dollars to
Lockheed Martin is They tell him, well, Lockheed Martin's the
only one that can make this jar lid. He's like, no,
you can make these for like fifty cents, but if

(02:06:03):
you just make one it would still be like fifty
dollars or five hundred dollars, not ten thousand dollars in
They're sorry, it's you know, we got to buy it
from Lockey Martin. So there's all kinds of waste fraud
abuse in the military. And I've heard a theory, and
I like this theory that DOGE is just sort of
warming up on USAID and some of these other institutions

(02:06:27):
that are full of waste fraud abuse so that when
they get to one of the most revered institutions in
the United States, which is our military, they will have
credibility to go after some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:06:39):
I got it well.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
By revealing the low hanging fruit, you know, like the
shrimp on treadmills, or you know LGBTQ support groups in
you know, some Middle Eastern country and you're scratching your head,
going what sesame Street and Iran? Anyhow, no one except
the insane Democrats who are kind of trying to defend
this to some degree, no one can defend. We are

(02:07:01):
uniformly against this outrageous expenditure. So you broadcasted to the world.
You realize you point out the American taxpayer where all
their money is going, and you gain a lot of support.
So I share with you your enthusiasm that that's what's
going on.

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:14):
It's a good marketing tool and a step in the
right direction.

Speaker 15 (02:07:18):
There's a line there's a line item I want them
to look at if somebody is listening to this radio show.
It's called OKO Overseas Contingency Operations. And this is where
they always stuck all the stuff that they couldn't stuff
into the military line item because there was some kind
of cap, so they called it OKO. And that's where

(02:07:38):
a lot of the Afghanistan waste was and still is.
The Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction, John Sopco that
man has found so much waste for aud abuse, so
it's kind of like every time they find something, I'm like, yeah,
we were talking about that for five years ago, ten
years ago on the Brian Thomas Show. Glad you finally

(02:08:01):
found it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:01):
Amen, how about the well, pick your topic, repealing double
tax on Social Security?

Speaker 1 (02:08:08):
Of that, okay, grab that one.

Speaker 15 (02:08:10):
Then yeah, I want to talk about this bill. So
when you pay into Social Security, it's not like a
four to one K. They actually take taxes out of
the money before it goes.

Speaker 1 (02:08:20):
Into Social Security, unlike a four oh one K.

Speaker 15 (02:08:23):
And then when you get paid, let's say, retire, and
you get money back from Social Security if you if
you make over, like if you're income totally income I
think is twenty five thousand individually or thirty three thousand jointly.
If it's over that certain amount, you start paying taxes
on it at an insane marginal rate on your Social

(02:08:45):
Security payments, So you're paying tax on it twice. Now,
when they instituted this in nineteen eighty four, they said
we're going to tax the rich, and they set those numbers,
and in nineteen eighty four, if you had thirty three
thousand dollars a year in retirement you might be considered rich,
but that ain't the case these days. So probably at
least half of people who receive Social Security are paying

(02:09:08):
tax on it. And it discourages anybody from getting another
job or investing their own money and making returns on it.
And so what you know, Trump has proposed this, but
I've been introducing this bill for twelve years, so I'm
glad to see Trump came out in favor of it.
And frankly, I can't take credit for it. I did

(02:09:29):
R and D to come up with this bill. I
ripped off and duplicated. That's what R and D stands
for here in Congress, I r indeed a Ron Paul
bill which gets rid of that second tax. You don't
even have to report your Social Security income if this
bill passes. Now here's I think this is a sign
from God when I go down and introduce the bill

(02:09:51):
in the hopper in Congress, they just assigned the HR
numbers serially, and just one day I got it in
my head, I'm going to go introduce this bill today.
And I said, what's the next HR number? And they
said ten forty. My tax bill is HR ten forty.
That's great, So we need HR ten forty, not ten forty. Easy,

(02:10:15):
we need HR ten forty.

Speaker 2 (02:10:17):
HR ten forty sounds like the wise, prudent, and extremely
logical thing to do. But something tells me, given the
prior comments you met about your cohorts up there, they're.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
Not going to be in favor of it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Congressman Thomas Massey, God bless you, sir. Keep up the
fantastic work. And if you're able to uh fifty five
cars dot com stream the conversation. I'm gonna have next
with Judge Nnedapolitana, who is of course a huge fan
of yours.

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
Well, everybody who's a senior.

Speaker 15 (02:10:44):
Whenever you're doing taxes in April on you're ten forty, remember,
call your congressman and ask them to support HR ten forty.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
Amen. Hey, tell the judge I said, Hi, you just
did yourself. Thank you, brother. We'll talk again real soon.
Stay well.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
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on Judge and Anapolitano waiting.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
In the wings. He is, I'll be right back. Fifty
five KRC the talk station.

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Clear skies on Valentine's Day with a high of thirty

(02:11:28):
seven thirty two degrees. Right now, Chuck Ingram, what's going
on out there? It didn't fire ghost in the machine,
Judge Edditapolitano. Sorry, he may very well have recorded the

(02:11:48):
traffic and kind words or compliments or goofy sentiments relating
to you, but we didn't get the recording audio, So
sorry about that. It's usually comical start toward the conversation,
Judge and Paula.

Speaker 16 (02:12:02):
Tim Is this another colossal ruse that he's pulled off
on us?

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Hey, listen, man, I started out the morning show yesterday
five Am. Joe's got great guests lined up all throughout
the morning. Like today with you. The phones aren't working.
People are calling in to have comments. None of the
audio is coming through. We can't communicate with anybody. I'm like,
oh Lord almighty, that means that I'm going to have
to fill up four solid hours by myself, which to

(02:12:30):
me is an anxiety inducing experience. So finally got the
phones fixed, but we had to deal with Chicago to
do that or something.

Speaker 1 (02:12:37):
It's crazy, Eddie, what.

Speaker 16 (02:12:39):
A great conversation you just had with Congressman Massy. Everybody
should hear that. Everybody in the Congress should hear that
the President of the United States, the federal Judiciary, everybody
should hear that he is the only person I am
aware of that has a full, unbridled, intellectually honest, constitutionally

(02:13:02):
faithful grasp on the excesses of government today. Simply marvelous
and courageous.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
And well courageous in the sense that he's calling out
his own fellow Republicans. I mean, he's more libertarian, but
they're the problem.

Speaker 16 (02:13:15):
I mean, he doesn't have to worry about re election
because his constituents appreciate him, But calling out his fellow
Republicans is what is deeply, deeply and profoundly needed.

Speaker 5 (02:13:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:13:30):
I mean, after all this work, to say what you
want about Elon Musk, but at least he's bringing it
to our attention. The just ridiculous expenditures of money which
are indefensible that they would refund USA to the forty
billion dollars are currently getting. I mean that that is
even within the Roman possibility is mind blowing to me.

Speaker 5 (02:13:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:13:52):
Well, you know one of the lessons I learned when
I was on the bench, like, why are we doing this? Well, judge,
it's been done this way in this courthouse since before
you were born. Well, that's no reason to keep doing it.
It's not authorized by the statute. I don't remember what
it was, but that is a habit in government. The

(02:14:13):
engines of government are run by people that are unseen,
and they're the ones that do things just because it's
always been done that way. Congress been messy, is almost
shoveling against the tide. When he attempts to.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
Resist that, Sisiphus always say to that right anyway, right,
you roll that rock to.

Speaker 5 (02:14:36):
The top of the hill.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
As soon as you get up there, it rolls back
down exactly. Well, the exercise is, you know what he's doing.
It's it's the the revealing to the world. And yet,
faced with even fellow Republicans who can't grasp a fiscal responsibility,
who don't care that we are spending trillions of dollars
beyond what is even taken into our debt. Service bill
is bigger than that ridiculous eight hundred and fifty billion

(02:14:58):
dollar defense bill. Would we know is filled with all
kinds of fraud, waste, and abuse. It's just I don't know.
It's almost as if they want the ship to crash
or they want the plane.

Speaker 16 (02:15:07):
I have often argued, and you've heard me say this,
that we don't have two parties. We have one party.
It's the Big Government Party. It has a democratic wing,
which prefers to spend money one way, and a Republican wing,
which prefers to spend money another way. But they each
prefer to spend money that we don't have. They both
do things to keep themselves in power, and there's very

(02:15:33):
little difference between them. They pretend there's a difference between them,
but they have collectively wrapped up nearly thirty six trillion
in debt and there doesn't seem to be any stopping them.

Speaker 1 (02:15:45):
I think it's going to have to collapse before anything
can be done about it. It's like, brother, well, it
may very.

Speaker 16 (02:15:50):
Well collapse, like the old Soviet Union collapsed. I have
attempted to put into the president's ear through some that
I occasionally communicate with, who has this year all the time.
Maybe it's time for a Convention of the States. Maybe
it's time for a constitution that seriously limits the federal

(02:16:13):
government and allows you, as Ronald Reagan used to say,
to vote with your feet by moving to a state
wherebel laws are to your liking. Today everything is regulated
by the Feds. The states are bribed by the Feds.
Do what we want and what we pave the highways
for you.

Speaker 2 (02:16:29):
Well, I talked to the president of the Convention of
States group that is organizing and pushing for it, and
more and more states are taking an interest in it.
I think sixteen or seventeen states have already approved it
passed legislation calling for a Convention of States. So that
idea may happen. It may happen, your honor, I hope
it happens in my lifetime. It will be things to
behold because part of the motivation is forcing the government

(02:16:52):
to live within its means and have a balanced budget.

Speaker 16 (02:16:55):
So, as I said at the end of my column
coming out tonight, when the government destroys liberty and property,
according to Thomas Jefferson. It is the right of the
people to alter or abolish it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
Yes, you hate to have to see it come to that,
but you're right. Let's do you do you you do.

Speaker 16 (02:17:17):
Founding fathers did not mince words in the things that
they said. And of course Jefferson was talking about violence.
I'm not talking about violence. I'm talking about doing this,
you know, lawfully and peacefully.

Speaker 2 (02:17:33):
Well, they did provide us some mechanism to do that
lawfully and peacefully, and that's the Convention of States. It's
better that than a revolution.

Speaker 16 (02:17:39):
Right, right, right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Well, you and I are not fans of the imperial presidency.
As I pointed out with congressom Mascy, we've been down
this road before. If Congress was functioning and able to
do something on behalf of the American people and not
on their own best interest, then something might get done
along the lines you heard congressom Mancy mentioned. Listen, for
every Doge recommendation, we should incorporate it into a reconciliation
bill that we could get pass. But no, his colleagues

(02:18:05):
aren't interested in that. So beyond that, your column, the
myth of emergency powers. It's a brilliant column as I
as always point out, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it, but
it does discuss the Ninth Amendment, and I just want
to give you, let you give my listeners a little
insight to your point on this so they can get
a copy of it when it comes out tonight.

Speaker 16 (02:18:24):
Well, presidents have often claimed, I mean, this goes back
to Abraham Lincoln and now Donald Trump. But Trump is
not the only one. FDR did this many many times,
that by declaring a national emergency they somehow acquire powers
to do things from some source other than the Constitution,
which they ordinarily wouldn't be able to do. Both Lincoln

(02:18:48):
and FDR claimed they could arrest people without charges and
without bringing them before a judge, and Lincoln's case on
the basis of their criticism of him, and FDR's case
on the basis of their nationality. What provoked this was
President Trump saying he might declare an emergency at the

(02:19:09):
at the Texas Mexico border and that would give him
more powers to arrest and use the military. Well, no,
it wouldn't. This is a myth that presidents have. I'm
not just picking on Donald Trump. A lot of people
listening to us I know agree with what he wants
to do on the border. A lot of people listening

(02:19:30):
to us now agree with what he's dispatched elon must
to do. But these things must be done lawfully. They
can't just be done by the executive assuming powers that
the executive doesn't have, or powers that belong to the Congress.
If Donald Trump can rewrite the laws by saying, who

(02:19:50):
there is no Department of Education, well then there's no
stopping him or a future president from doing the same.
I happen to think the Department of Education is unconstitutional, but.

Speaker 4 (02:20:02):
It's the law.

Speaker 16 (02:20:02):
It needs to be undone by Congress, not by the president.
In terms of this emergency nonsense, whenever the courts have
looked at it, they've said, there is no such thing
as emergency power. The only power the president has is
what's given to him or her in the Constitution. We
had a terrible example of this in New Jersey during COVID,

(02:20:25):
and then when COVID was over, turned out that the
governor was still the governor of New Jersey, but in
his last year and he's term limited. Thanks to me
to God, Phil Murphy decided he enjoyed emergency powers so
much he didn't want to give him up, even though
COVID was over and life had returned to normally recently

(02:20:46):
did give them up. By the way, this is the
same Phil Murphy who said, if my housekeeper were an
illegal alien, I would hide her in the governor's mansion
and by ice to find her. What a crazy thing
for a person responsible for enforcing the laws to say.

(02:21:06):
Where Upon Tom Homan said, what's your address, Governor, We're
coming over. Well, you can't make this stuff up. So
all these things were going through my head. I'm sorry,
I'm talking so much, Brian as I decided to coalesceent
around the myth of emergency powers, the belief that the

(02:21:28):
public has that the Congress accepts that the presidents have
articulated that by declaring an emergency, they somehow, from somewhere,
from some source not the Constitution, acquire more power and
it's somehow lawful.

Speaker 1 (02:21:42):
Blonney Well, same along the lines. Comparable anyway to waging
war when there's been no declaration of war nothing.

Speaker 16 (02:21:53):
That's another thing. The Congress looks the other way when
presidents start wars. When Barack Obama used this CIA so
that he didn't have to report this under the War
Powers Resolution to bomb Libya. Congress knowingly looked the other way.
I happened to be interviewing then Harlem Congressman, longtime Harlem

(02:22:15):
Congressman Charlie Wrangle on Fox News. I said, Congressman Wrangle,
how can you allow this to happen? Oh wow, Judge,
if it fails, we don't want to have anything to
do with it. And if it succeeds, we'll say we
gave him the power to do it. That is nonsense.
That is a failure to uphold his oath, which is

(02:22:36):
to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.

Speaker 5 (02:22:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:22:42):
Well, you know, between you and Congressman Massy, it's rather
a bit of a downer couple of conversations.

Speaker 16 (02:22:51):
It is what's going on, say, Constitution of the States.
My dream would be to be the chair of it.
Oh wow, personally involved in rewriting the Constitution. Congressman Massey
knows that this is my dream. But we'll see what happens.
I happen to think that the President of the United States,
whatever you think of him, would favor this.

Speaker 1 (02:23:13):
Yeah, I agree with you. I think he's.

Speaker 2 (02:23:18):
Not picking or choosing any specific action and not analyzing
it from a constitutional perspective, as you and you and
I might do. I think what he is offering and
trying to accomplish through his executive actions is in the
best interests of America, like getting rid of fraud, waste,
and abuse and get ready eradicating the departments that shouldn't
exist anyway. There's already forty nine lawsuits that have been

(02:23:41):
filed against his executive actions, so ultimately, the third branch
of government, the legal system, will definitely be resolving these issues,
and it may maybe take a while, but maybe we
can restore some constitutional order in all of this. Judge
Andrew Neapolitano, we always end on judging freedom, your podcasts
and your conversations. Who are going to be here in
Toy Phil.

Speaker 16 (02:24:01):
Giraldi and Pepe Escobar, two of my superstars, and along
with Aaron Monte, who's a young investigative journalist, one of
the best in the business, who keeps coming up with
more waste, fraud, and abuse that the foreign policy establishment does.

Speaker 5 (02:24:21):
Not want us to know about.

Speaker 1 (02:24:23):
Wonderful.

Speaker 2 (02:24:23):
We'll look forward to those conversations, and I'll look forward
to next Wednesday, another great conversation with you, sir.

Speaker 16 (02:24:28):
Thank you a great day. Starting out by listening to
you and Congressman Messi has been a treat for me,
and of course being with you is always a treat.
Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 2 (02:24:36):
I'm blessed to have the opportunity to speak with you.
Man I really truly am God bless you, sir. We'll
talk next Wednesday, coming up at eight forty three here
at fifty five KRC.

Speaker 3 (02:24:46):
The talk station fifty five KARC

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