55KRC Wednesday Show - Ken Kober, Jack Atherton, Buckeye Institute, Jennifer Gross, Judge Napolitano

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Five O five in fifty about R R C Detok station.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Duck and cover.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Ducking cover is that from the nineteen fifties with the
nuclear bombs driving Joe orre supposed to get underneath your children?
The child's suposed to ge uneathther your desk or oh
that's right. The South Park episode where you uh were
to protect yourself from lava flowing over the top of you.
Just put a blanket over you and duck and cover

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and the lava will flow right over you and nothing
will happen. Boy, taking me back, I was a long
I was one of the first seasons for several seasons anyway.
Chess Trecker, execut producer of the fifty five Carsy Morning
Show and fellow South Park aficionado. Happy Wednesday, folks. Brian
Thomas right here, glad to be. I slept in a

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little bit today, so feeling a little behind the eight pall,
but feeling better than I have bens, which is a
good thing. So any little bit of improvement helps. And
today and the fifty five Cassy Morning Show guests starred
early today thankfully. FOP President Ken Kalber returns of the
ffty five Carsy Morning show coming up at six thirty.
Got a couple of things to say about the city
manager regarding teen violence, which the city manager suggests is

(01:42):
going down in the city. I think Ken on the
front lines doesn't see it that way. See, the residents
of Hamilton County are going to be facing another sewer
rate increase that shocks no one anyhow, we'll certainly be
talking about that. And it's seven oh five The Big

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Picture with Jack Atherton talking about media bias, backfiring and
this whole Joe Scarborough thinks hilarious call his sort of
MSNBC worshipers and followers are just absolutely beside themselves and
the idea that he would speak with Donald Trump, and
that boiled down to that little bit which is really

(02:26):
the full analysis. Is all that necessary? Oh my god,
you've turned. You're a trader. You're a trader. Is enough
to point out the obvious that well, it isn't journalism
going over at MSNBC. It's a cult of personality and
a cult of politics. Seven oh five with Jack Aden
and followed by Greg Lawson from the Buck Eye Institute.

(02:47):
He'll be on at seven thirty. State needs to end
licensing requirements. There are ridiculous licensing requirements out there. My
favorite one is why would you need a license to
braid someone's hair. We'mber my daughter doing that with her
girlfriends when she was little. Never had any problems with

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health or I don't know anything else. Just braid your hair. Hey,
can you braid my hair?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Five minutes later it's done. State says, get a license anyway.
Ohio Energy Policy, I know. I guess I could have
dropped the dime by my own daughter, Joe. Ohio Energy
Policy and Senate Bill two seventy five. Those the subject
matter with Greg Lasson again seven thirty with Greig State

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Representative Jennifer gross At eight oh five, Ohio voting on
a news speaker. We have a homeowners property tax rally
and protest going on today in Columbus. If you're not
doing anything, head to Columbus and protests question mark and
if you've got an answer, please let me know. What
is Columbus going to do about property taxes? I mean,

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you could cap them to a percentage, you could cap
them to a total dollar amount, but they're going to
continue to go up and looming large large large in
the background here in the state of Ohio is the
funding of our schools, which is predicated on well, of
course homeowner property taxes, and that has been deemed unconstitutional

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now for the last twenty years. And I was on
a real terry yesterday about that elections official who said
that we can just we can disregard the law. We
don't need to abide by the law. I'm breaking the law,
and everybody breaks the law. We welcome to the state
of Ohio. Ware for the last twenty years, at least
in so far as the Supreme Court decision regarding school

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funding is concerned, we've essentially been breaking the law. So
Judge ended Apolitano Biden's lust for war springing from and
I applauded him on his column that we'll be talking
about at eight thirty. The conversation I had yesterday with
Daniel Davis, that deep dive with Daniel Davis on the
insanity going on with the situations in Ukraine. We give

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them approval to launch longer range missilin longer range missiles,
and of course, right pretty much in the moment in
time that Russia decided to change its nuclear policy, saying that, well,
I'll tell you what if a country that has nuclear weapons. Oh,
let's say the United States is aiding and assisting a

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country in a conflict with Russia, like oh, I don't know,
Ukraine maybe, and that particular country those uses weapons and
to attack the interior of Russia. Then Russia is free
to use nuclear weapons to defend itself, which is literally
what happened over the past several days. So we have

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these longer range missiles. Russia went ahead and launched them
right after the Biden greenlit the use of them. As
Daniel Davis explained, they only go about one hundred ninety
miles and that's only I don't I mean, that's far
enough into the interior. Didn't have a whole lot of effect.
That was one of the more important components of the
Daniel Davis discussion that I took away from it. Listen,

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you know you've got what you gave them one hundred
and fifty or one hundred and ninety. These things really expensive.
They are. Russia was successful in shooting down the vast
majority of them, which is typical of what happens these days.
We've got all this wonderful technology which is designed to
protect us. It reminds me of that video game from
the nineteen seventies where you launch missiles to protect you

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from the incoming nuclear weapons that were dropping in This
is a reality these days. So we give them these
longer range missiles that they're shooting into Russia with very
little effect, no real outcome changing effect other than the
reality that well, Ukraine is now launching into the interior
of Russia, leaving us closer to apparently World War III,

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which Russia was just threatening again yesterday. So we have
pro Putint spokesperson Sergey Markov. Not sure if he's the
equivalent of Baghdad Bob, but we all have our spokespeople,
Serge Markov in the case of the Russians talking about

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a World War three by Christmas. This is unsettling, to
say the least. Giving us giving Ukraine permission to fire
these longer range missiles into the Kremlin territory, he claims,
is a big jump towards nuclear war. Let us see here.

(07:40):
Move will allow Ukraine, which it did, to shoot these
Attakam missiles and United Kingdom storm Shadow missiles as well
as French Scalp missiles into Kremlin territory. And I think
Daniel Davis pointed out that all the weapons that the
three countries together have won't make an impact whatsoever, given

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the ability to shoot them down and the limited supply
of them generally, I think you move back from that
very fundamental point, you got to look to the resources
NATO has collectively, and as we move forward more and
more into this thousand plus day conflict, we realize NATO
not necessarily the military powerhouse that it paints itself to be.

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Of course, we've been propping up the whole NATO military
defense now for years and years and years, and that's
one of the things that Donald Trump brought to his
first presidency a first presidential term. Listen, guys, time to
pony up. It's like the United Nations. If it wasn't
for the United States, the United Nations would starve for
lack of funding. If it wasn't for the United States,

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NATO wouldn't have an army or resources to defend itself
if it was left to its own devices. Anyway, Now,
the country's in favor of this, the people in favor
of Biden's decision, and like for example, France and UK also,
I guess we're happy about this green light for the
use of these longer range missiles pointed out that the Kremlin, well,

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how they threaten nuclear war all the time. Every time
the West steps up to support Ukraine. We provided tanks,
they threatened nuclear war fighter jets, they threatened nuclear war,
so other sophisticated weapons, and it's always nuclear war being
thrown out there. However, this spokesperson, mark Of, currently Director
General of Russia's Institute for Political Studies, said this move

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was different. It meant that US Western militaries would be
directly involved in the conflict for the first time. Ukraine
would require their assistance to use the precision guided missile systems,
something that Daniel Davis pointed out Yesterday's something that Politanos
previously pointed out. These require high level security clearance. These

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require sophisticated trained individuals who know how to use them
and shoot them accurately. Ergo, these require American military person
Noel to be directly involved in the launching of the
missile systems, which is the point that was being made
by this Markov guide talking to BBC Radio, my reaction
to the White House's decision was awful. I couldn't sleep because, well,

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I'm just afraid of nuclear war is coming. The decision
of the United States, Great Britain in France is not
a step towards nuclear war. It's a big jump to
nuclear war, nuclear catastrophe. It's a very dangerous decision. The
point is these rocket missiles cannot be fired by the
Ukrainian army technically because these rocket missiles need to have

(10:37):
very good map of Russian territory, and the only and
only the US has this map. Even Great Britain and
France does not have this map. Close quote from the
spokesperson Markov from Russia also pointed out that targeting of
these rocket missiles can't be done by the Ukrainian army
as it requires satellite intelligence that the country doesn't have.

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So bottom line is targets inside Russia will be hit
by American soldiers operating the weapon systems, as well as
the British and French militaries. Quote. So we regard this
as the start of a direct war by Britain, America
and France against Russia. American rocket missiles against our territory.

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This is a clear escalation of war. His words again
not mine now. When asked the Putin would use nuclear
missiles in response, he said not now, said it was
more likely that bases in Eastern Europe could be hit
by smaller tactical nuclear missiles. And yes they make those.
You don't have to have a Nagasaki, your Herosian missize bomb,

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and those are tiny ones by modern nuclear weapon standards.
You can have a smaller back I remember backpack nukes
were a thing back in the late seventies. You know,
carry on the backpack and they do small but still
nuclear weapon damage, but on a smaller footprint. So tactical nukes,
which is what he suggested. Then he added quote, I

(12:13):
think Biden, McCrone and Starmer want escalation, which could lead
to from my understanding, in the worst scenario, the nuclear
war happens before Christmas of this year. He went on,
probably you will not be able to say Merry Christmas
because you will stay in the hole trying to hide

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away your family from the nuclear catastrophe. It can develop
very very quickly. Close cover there you have it, So
remember when the bomb comes, duck and cover, get it
underneath that desk, just like they did in the fifties.
Now listen, I'm not suggesting that this guy is speaking

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the truth. I'm not suggesting that Vladimir Putin necessarily has
his foot finger on the trigger. I am suggesting this
thing is escalating, and I really have to ask out
woud why unless it was a direct effort to undermine
Donald Trump? And is the hatred within the Biden administration
that deep against Donald Trump that they would move US

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closer to nuclear war over Ukraine? And you got to remember,
and this is something that the judge is going to
point out later. You know, there's a pretty good chunk
of Ukraine which is mostly just Russian people. I'm reminded
of these articles that are coming around about all these
different blue states like California and others that most of

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the states want to break away from them because it's
a big giant chunk of well people that aren't being
representative by the majority Democrats that would just want to
break off the territory and leave the state. That's kind
of like Ukraine. Crimeo is kind of like that. Yeah,
Russians went in broke off a chunk of Ukraine, but

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the Crimean residents they were well pretty much all pro Russian.
So are they being better served now under putin a
very complicated global situation? Five nineteen fifty five k C.
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right back. It's five point twenty two, all right. So,

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continuing a theme here with Russia threatening nuclear war by Christmas,
here's another development. Apparently the Biden administration is just to
prove sending anti personnel mind to Ukraine. This is the
first time marking another major policy shift as a Biden administration.
Back in June of twenty twenty two, after four months

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of the war in Ukraine, they pledged to limit the
use of anti personnel minds. What are they say say?
Back then, they said there was a need to contail
the use of anti personnel minds worldwide, saying the United
States would no longer develop or export anti personnel minds
and would work to destroy all of its existing stockpile.

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H what happened? What changed? Yeah? These are the mines
that they're still finding in like North Vietnam and South
Vietnam or maybe wherever you know where any fields have
there have been conflicts. You know, we put mines down
on the ground, or they whoever they are, put mines
in the ground and they leave them there. You know,
ten years, fifteen years, twenty years hand some farmers out

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there plow in the field being pulled by an ox
and a plow old school hit a mine and blow up. Well,
that's why the whole globe says these are terrible things.
It's okay, though, because the type of minds were providing
Ukraine are called non persistent. Officials say they have an
internal mechanism that shortens their lifespan. Mines are just to

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become inert after a set period of time, ranging from
as little as four hours to a couple of weeks,
because they have an electrical fuse in them that requires
a battery, and the mind becomes inert when the battery
runs out. You take any comfort in that? I don't know.

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So these are not like the anti tank mines that
we previously had been using or provided to Ukraine, because
that's what we've been to do an effort to reduce
Russia's numerical superiority in armored vehicles. You put anti tank
mines down. I don't know how they operate. Maybe someone
in the American military can explain it. Between an anti
tank mine, which seems to me to be well of course,

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something planted in the ground that when a tank hits
it blows up. How that's really any difference definitionally or
operationally speaking from an anti personnel mind which sounds like
something you bury in the ground and it blows up
when someone steps on it. Maybe it's the amount of
poundage needed to set it off. I don't know, but
we've now well at least approved additional weaponry that was

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previously deemed verboten in the form of anti personnel minds.
Five twenty five fifty five cars. The talk station New Hampshire,
Gary is on the line. If you don't mind holding
for a couple of minutes here, I will promise to
take your call before I get the locals news, or alternatively,
I will get to other callers should I receive any
of those calls. Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty

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eight two to three talk stick around. You're right back
if you're a busy decalk station. I'm very happy Wednesday
to you listener. Lunch Wednesday. Uh going to be at
right still Chili, first Wednesday of December, and that'll be
the Christmas one too. We always I love celebrating Christmas,

(17:52):
and I wish the listener lunch was a little bit
closer because it would feel better. But you know, after Thanksgiving,
green light for all things Christmas. I am a traditionalist
when it comes to Christmas decorations. Go ahead, put them
up in July if you want. Some people look down
their nose at things like that. I personally think the
Christmas celebration should be like in that window when you're

(18:13):
getting close to Christmas. You know it concentrated enjoyment of
Christmas in a narrow window that if you spread it
out over a really long period of time. And this
is not negating the point of Christmas, which is not
Santa Claus and which is not giving gifts. This is
not supporting the economy, that is the reality of the
commercialization that we have created on to the point of Christmas,

(18:37):
the Christian celebration. So if you want to celebrate it, Joe,
how many months do we celebrate your birthday in advance
of your birthday? Hopefully, Ted, let's go to the Phone's
New Hampshire. Gary was kind enough to hold Gary Welcome
to the show. Thanks for holding there and indulging me.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
No, it was great.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
My birthday is in December, so I kind of get
the thing, you know, right after Thankgiving.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You know, there's there's no New Hampshire Gary Birthday celebration
in July.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh, but all of December it's the month of Gary.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
There you go. You got to you gotta share it though,
with the birth of christ I.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Guess, oh, absolutely absolutely, it comes first in my life.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
So that's good.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I was just talking about this war thing. I think that, Uh.
I think there are so many people up in the
Pentagon as well as our industrial complex for all things military,
but definitely the Pentagon. There are tens of thousands, if
not hundreds of thousands of jobs that are reliant on

(19:50):
not seeing They're kind of like the deep state, only
the Pentagon's deep state, I guess also.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
CIA at the I do the same time.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
You mean like the military industrial complex, Yes.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Sir, and I think I think it's valuable for them to.
I don't think they want to start a nuclear war,
but they're going to do everything they can to agitate
to get a regional conflict, going to uh involve US
as much as possible before Donald Trump gets in there

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to kind of tie his hands.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
You know, the more that you're involved in a in
a regional conflict. The less you can do to change
the Pentagon, I think is part of their part of
their strategy. And allowing these missiles to fly right now
in Ukraine striking Russia, which is at this late stage,

(20:48):
this late in the stage of the game, just seems
like it's either part or you know, they're they're kind
of like doing the same thing that they did back
in Vietnam right before there was peace. We started flying
to be fifty two's and bought bombing Hanoi to leverage peace.
Or it's either that or these guys want to go.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
To full war.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
And I think that I think these guys don't want
change it. Miss Does that make sense? They don't want
to me, so they're going to shake the cage.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I understand those that want to support the military industrial complex,
the raytheons of the world. You know, of course, everybody
in the American military, I guess to some degree wants
to be at least supported with the appropriate arms. But
to what end are they for the purpose of protecting
American interests both domestic and abroad, or are they there
for the purposes of I mean, I don't know what

(21:45):
America's interest is in Ukraine. Anyway. I know with the
breadbasket of Europe, they're not part of NATO. We don't
have a defense agreement with them. We didn't rise and
help the multitude of other countries struggling with conflict. I
go back to Rwanda genocide and Rwanda hundreds of thousands
of people slaughtered it and not a single finger was lifted. Why. Well,

(22:08):
I guess we didn't have anything there in Rwanda we
were really looking out for We didn't have any minerals
or reserves, or we didn't have any businesses set up there.
I have no idea. I guess you have to ask
yourself the question, really, what is the fundamental function of
the American military is to protect American businesses who have
set up in countries that are volatile and subject to conflict.

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Does that give us the justification them to start dropping
bombs and missiles there? Is that the point of it?
Is that protecting America's interest or is it protecting business
interests with companies that happened to have some affiliation with America,
which are international companies now just happened to set up
shop in dangerous places. I don't know. I'm baffled by

(22:52):
the whole thing. But going back to the initial suggestion
you were making, this seems to me, given the timing
after the election, Donald Trump went overwhelmingly. He's promising to
end the conflict by mechanisms or means that. I have
no idea how. I don't know that he can accomplish
what he claims he can accomplish. But is this politics?

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Is this an effort to stop Donald Trump from effectively
ending the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people. I mean,
would we really do that, we want to escalate to
the point where we're near nuclear war just to score
points against one man and this upcoming administration. That's a

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dangerous reality if you look at it just from that perspective,
it's like these people are batcrap insane. So I don't know,
I don't know when we're going to get the ultimate
answer to that, And maybe decades down the road, people
will be writing books in the aftermath of this, hopefully
not from a glowing ember of what was the Globe.
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Speaker 1 (25:30):
What's up, mem There are no accidents. I hope that's
not famous last words, giving the amount of fog gets
out there. So again, please be careful go straight to
the phone. Be where I get to the stack is
stupid because Aaron was kind enough to hold Aaron, Welcome
to the program. Happy Wednesday to you.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Hey, good morning, Brian.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
I I don't know. I've been thinking about this ever
since a lot of the bombing has been happening in Israel,
and I kind of just discount, like, oh, well, thousands
of bombs just go in Israel, but they're shot off
by the Iron Dome. But I'm just thinking like a thousand,
but like thousands of bombs that are blown up in

(26:07):
the air, but they have to come down, and there's
like even if they're small, like pieces of bullets or
like something like that, that's a lot of stuff that. Yeah,
and so I wondered if maybe you or somebody else
in the audience knows, like, is that something that they'd
like to there Are they sweeping up fall fragments and

(26:28):
missile pieces all over the place in Israel or wow?
I mean because they can't be healthy either.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
No, yeah, I understand what your your point is, and
I get it. I would like to think that everything
that falls and it is shrapnel would be inert in
other words, unlike a land mine, it remains into the ground,
unexploded after the conflict's over, that this isn't going to
cause any immediate harm. But yeah, you have to imnage
that there is all kinds of that stuff floating down.

(26:55):
But as you were saying that, you're mentioning Israel and
the Iron Dome and the successful shooting down of all
these rockets that seem to land on or attempt to
land on them every day. Look at what Gaza and
Lebanon look like, just generally, look at what Syria looks like.
I mean, this place is talking about nuclear war. They
look like they've had a nuclear bomb dropped on them.

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So I mean in terms of the comparative damage. And
this isn't a defense of terrorist organizations going after Israel
and slaughtering Jewish people, which I find horrifically offensive and
can indefensible completely. I think Israel has every right to
defend itself. This is just the horrors of war. And
that's add to that question. Mark, how Joe has anybody

(27:41):
talked about the effects of war on global warming? Three?
Where's the un on that running around screaming? Where's Greta
Thunberg on the carbon output? Any one iron dome missile
being blown up to explode, any one of the thousands

(28:03):
of rockets that his Balla is shooting every day. Why
don't we blame his Balla and the other the other
terrorist organizations for global warming. Let's put that into the mix.
Let's not worry about nuclear war. Let's worry about one
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Five fifty fifty five krcit de talk station try to
make it Happy. Wednesday, Joe Strecker Jecker Brus to fifty
five Carsity Mornings just said we need not worry about
nuclear war. World War three will not happen. I'm like, well, why, Joe,
how is it you can make such a bold prediction.
It's just because it's not sponsored. Nobody's sponsoring it. And

(31:02):
I said, well, maybe Rafeon will step up to the plate.
Don't know, Disney plus, I suppose that's an option. Uh
here's something that sounds like living hell on Earth to me,
because I don't like the idea of being on a
cruise ship. Being on a cruise ship. Had a nice
time with my family doing the Inner Passage up in Alaska,
but that is the last cruise I'm ever going to

(31:23):
go on. Why I hate being stuck on a boat.
I want to go over there. You can't do that
cuz somebody else is in charge of the boat and
where you're going. There's no flexibility involved with it. You're
packed on a boat with thousands of people. Just anyway.
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(31:43):
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and if you're going to go with the spouser partner,
you can jack that up to three hundred and twenty
thousand dollars, or you can just move Colorado pervert pleaded
guilty and now scheduling sentenced for a vile act involving
a bodily fluid and cupcakes cupcakes that were consumed by
guests attending a child's birthday party. Award winner this morning,

(32:50):
Steven Masalta, thirty two years old, worked at a Safeway supermarket,
recently admitted to attempting to commit sexual assault on a
child felony misdemeanor in decent exposure charges as well. Cord
to the plea agreement, he'll be serving about two years
in jail and be placed on ten years of sex
offender Intensive supervision probation. That's a thing. He'll be barred

(33:16):
from having contact with anybody under the age of eighteen
and has been locked up since his arrest earlier this
year for repeatedly pleasuring himself outside coffee shops plural in Loveland, Colorado,
and Fort Collins, thankfully not Loveland, Ohio. As part of

(33:36):
the probement of these elude incidents, police searched his phones
discovered videos showing someone presumably him, pleasuring himself and touching
his private parts to doughnuts in what appears to be
a grocery store. The time of the recordings. He worked
as a night stocker, not staker stocker like you stock shelves.

(34:01):
My first job IgA over in dal high facing up
shelves and this was at a safe way in Fort Collins.
Court to the court filing, investigator said food items that
came into contact with his bodily fluids as well as
his genitals included strawberries in a plastic sale container, donuts, cupcakes,

(34:22):
and a large bucket of commercial pastry frosting Court to police.
In one video, Masaulta touches his penis and pleasures himself
on a batch of twelve cupcakes that were ordered by
a woman for a son's birthday party. In order. Label
A fixed to the cupcake container of the store employee
had written, quote add super Mario toys if we have

(34:46):
close quote no IDEA Safeway manager shown in the video
said that he believed Massaulta's clips recorded in the bakery
and freezer areas of the Fort Collins store. Customer had
ordered a total of twenty four cupcakes. They were consumed
at a party attended by sixteen children and several adults.

(35:07):
He was a mussaulted charged with sixteen counts of attempted
sexual assault on a child, since the cupcake special order
label requested sprinkles and Super Mario toys to be included,
show that the order was likely intended for children. Upon
discovering the videos, detectives worked to contact the families of
multiple children who ate the cupcakes. Now, is that information

(35:32):
that you really want to have or would you rather
go through the balance of your life just not knowing?
Just contemplate that it's a thought exercise.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
PERI is the biggest douche of the universe, in all
the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached
the top, the pinnacle of douche, the good your dreams have.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I guess there is an exception to the overall conclusion
that he was well worthy of the biggest doucey the
universe of war. Joe Strektors said, well, if they were
for Whoope Goldberg, then I might give him a pass.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Who can argue with that?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
A lot of people, But we'll let Joe have his
own opinion on that matters. Stick around. We've got a
lot more to talk about between now and six thirty
when Ken Cobra, FLP President return to the morning show
to talk about well the city manager suggesting team violence
is actually down in the city. I'll be right back
after the news.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Another news updates. We're gonna get all the facts.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
An ear full of information at the top of the
hour and they'll break it down fast.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Fifty five krs. The talk station shy six six fifty five.
Care see the talk station. Try to have a happy Wednesday,
even though it looks like World War three is getting
ready to unfold in Europe. Any duck and cover the

(37:04):
message of the day. Anyhow, feel free to call if
you have a comment on something going on in the world.
Love to hear from you. Five one three seven under
eight two three talko with Pound five fifty on at
and T funt and remember fifty five casee dot com
anytime you can't listen to live if you want to
hear it again. We talked with Steve Gooden, our legal
expert from Porto right yesterday about the Pennsylvania election shenanigans.

(37:24):
We got the Daniel Davis deep dive on the terrible
situation unfolding in between Ukraine and Russia longer range missiles
launched by Ukraine. Russia's new policy saying if we help,
if a nuclear powered country helps some other country in
a conflict with Russia, then well no holds barred on
the use of nuclear weapons. So this has been the

(37:46):
suggestion that And ask yourself, why why, why, why why
did the Biden administration wait until this, You know, the
Trump won the election to give them authority to launch
missiles deep into Russia. Daniel Davis explained, it didn't do
a damn thing one hundred and fifty of those particular
types of weapons that Russia already knows how to shoot

(38:06):
out of the sky with their Iron Dome type system.
And thank you to Eric and Jeff, because I couldn't
remember the name of the game. It was Missile Command.
I was thinking of the Iron Dome. Remember the game
from the seventies, Missile Command. We all spent quarters playing
that and wasting away our childhood anyhow, just like our

(38:30):
kids do now, except they don't have to pay quarters
every time to turn an Xbox on. But the reality
is not really doing much but escalating the situation. And
now the Buyding administration has now approved the use of
these anti personnel land mines. So that was another recent
development where they had previously restricted the sale and use
of land mines basically globally. So we've got Ken Cober

(38:56):
FLP President, moving the things local. He'll be coming on
the fifty five Case Morning Show at the bottom of
this hour to talk about what the city manager says
is teen violence is actually going down in the city.
I think he has a response to that. Ken. At
six point thirty one hour from now, fast forward Jack
Atherton with a big picture media bias backfiring. That was

(39:19):
low hanging fruit Jack. I look forward to having him
on the show Love Jack OTHERDD. At seven thirty after
Jack Lee's Greg Lasson joins the program for the Buckeye Institute.
The state needs to end licensing requirements and we'll talk
about Hio energy policy and SB two seventy five and
how that relates. Eighth five, two hours from now, State
Representative Jennifer Gross joins a program to talk about Ohio

(39:42):
voting on a new speaker and homeowner property tax rally
and protests going on today in Columbus. Ask yourself the question,
are the the cats that represent the Republican Party which
dominates Columbus is going to be herded into enough of
a corner to give us some relief from property taxes

(40:02):
going through the roof Judge Jennena Paul Tano also on
Biden's lust for war. That's the name of his columns
comes out tonight, very similar in theme to my conversation
yesterday with Daniel Davis Deep Dive, and in fact I
gave the judge props for dealing with the subject matter.
What is going on? What are the American interests? And oh,

(40:23):
why are we expending so many billions and billions of
dollars to fund that seemingly pointless conflict. Seemingly pointless. Some
people can make an argument in favor of defending Ukraine,
and I'm struggling mightily these days to come up with one.
So maybe you can offer one, if you feel free
to call. That is great. So what else are we

(40:45):
talking about? Kind of a couple of conflicting things running
into each other. First off, remember the FEMA aid. We
were told early on after the hurricanes that sorry sucks
to be you folks that were impacted by the hurricane Dan.
We gave all that money to the illegal immigrants, and
then when it comes to giving out aid to American citizens,

(41:07):
you've got to check for seven hundred and fifty bucks
at least after you jumped through all the hurdles, including
taking down your Donald Trump election signs, because apparently those
out handing out aid and dealing with the aftermath well
decided to bypass your house because they were told to.
And there's been a grilling on that. THEMA director was

(41:29):
grilled by basing congressmen the other day. Prioritizing illegal immigrants
over Americans one of the subject matters of the discussion,
So we can start with that. One Republican and New
York Representative Mark Malnaro pressing Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator

(41:49):
Diane Criswell yesterday about prioritizing illegal immigrants over American citizens
and as citizens in the agency's disaster release relief efforts. Quote,
do you see the absurdity that American citizens are getting
their seven hundred and fifty dollars and then yes, struggling
through a very complicated process to meet the thresholds necessary

(42:11):
to get the aid they need to have housing, food,
and shelter, while your agency is contracting with not for
profits to easily hand out access to those who are
placed here illegally. Do you see the absurdity? He asked again.
Chriswel's response FEMA's mission is to support people, help people before, during,

(42:35):
and after disasters, and said she makes priority decisions every day.
Malanara fallows up, do you think in responding to an emergency,
the priority of government ought to be ensuring the American
citizens are triaged and that the services of FEMA are
focused on responding to them and their service program first

(43:00):
her response, I absolutely believe that the services that FEMA
provides should be supporting the people that have been impacted
by our disasters. Notice the get your ven diagram out
the people the broadest category, which includes every manned, woman
and shot on the entire planet. Then you have the
American citizens the subcategory of the broader category which FEMA

(43:23):
should be prioritizing, which is Molnarra's point. That's a little dodge, dip, duct,
dive and dodge from Criswell. But that's what you'd expect
since they are prioritizing illegal immigrants over the American population.
And then mollen Aira cut her off to ask if
she sees in his work the inequity in those placed

(43:46):
here illegally having taxpayers support a plane, ticket, house, hotel, food,
cell phones, access to healthcare. Do you do you not
see the inequity that they have access immediately, he asked.
She then started to answer, pointing out the Congress ultimately

(44:06):
responsible for femous decision, but moll And Emor interrupted her
again to dispute the claim, saying the agency itself can
prioritize what it chooses, asking why can you not say
today that the priority ought to have been to make
sure that American citizens were getting first response, adequate response,
and not distracted response. Why can you not say that?

(44:31):
She then said, our priority is the American people, and
we administered our disaster programs.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
He just pointed out she appeared unwilling to admit or
acknowledge the inequities, moving over to Congressman Jim Jordan. Jim
Jordan questioning FEMA's Criswell about the director to Skip Houses
whose resident we're supporting President elect Donald Trump in advance

(45:03):
of the election. He had a text message text message
sent by former FEMA Disasters survivor assistant's crew leader Marnie Washington,
who's taken the brunt of the of the blame for this,
which listed a series of quote best practices close quote,
including avoiding quote holmes advertising Trump signs it's in a

(45:29):
text message. Jordan prescriswell about the message. He put it
up on a screen during the Hopsolvertight Committee hearing. Quote.
She said, it's common practice. You said, it's reprehensible and isolated.
Both statements can't be true. So someone's not giving us
the facts, and I'm trying to figure out who's not
telling the truth. So he pressed her about yet another

(45:51):
FEMA employee, saying that this, this Marnie Washington, had to
have been given those instructions by superior. Going back to
the prior congressman's point, FEMA makes the decisions. Congress does
not sit down and decide prioritization. FEMA's on the ground
making its own decisions regarding prioritizations. So said this, this

(46:16):
Marnie Washington had to have been given those instructions by
someone up. So he turned to the text message. Let's look,
he said, maybe the best evidence we have is the
actual screenshot. Put that screenshop up on the screen. Let's
look at what the text message said. The text message said,
implement best practices, like this is the best practices. We're

(46:38):
gonna implement them. And they then talk about making sure
you go in pairs with more than one person, avoid
the Trump homes. Drink your water, take your towel, coconut water.
So Jordan said, stay hydrated, stay with someone else, and
don't go to the Trump pums. It seems pretty common
as a matter of fact, and the actual evidence. We
do have the text message itself. But you're still saying Ms.

(47:04):
Washington and this other person aren't telling the truth.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Back.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
You're into a corner there, didn't he.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
M.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
He said, you know what this sounds like. It sounds
like Peter Strock. Peter Strock when he said, I just
went into Walmart. I can smell the Trump supporters. It
sounds like Joe Biden when you said all the garbage
I see is the Trump supporters out there. Sounds like
the guy the Democrats had, the professor the Democrats had
testified back in twenty nineteen in the impeachment, Conservatives, especially

(47:35):
very conservative people, tend to spread out, perhaps because they
don't even want to be around themselves. What means, Jordan said, this,
this disdain, this mindset that's in the government, where there
everyone's deplorable, everyone's everyone's you know, smelly people at Walmart,

(47:56):
and oh be mindful of those people. In western North Carolina.
That's what it's it sounds like. And again, the best
evidence is the text messages we have which reinforce that
mindset that we have seen from so many people in
our government. And it's a good point that he made
all of those illustrations in those instances. And yes, it's

(48:17):
easy to go back five or ten years and grab
them all up and put them into a SoundBite. But
these are elected officials, these are agency leaders. These are
people like President Joe Biden making these utterances and demonizing
and belittling and name calling basically half now maybe even

(48:38):
more of the least the voting population, but half of
America and on the ground, when it comes to handing
out much needed aid, desperately needed aid, people who have
literally no place to shelter. They have no running water,
they have no food, they're isolated, they're remote. This is
where FEMA is supposed to actually do its work. This

(48:59):
is why the reason, this is one of the reasons
FEMA actually exists. It's not to put illegal immigrants in
luxury hotels and give them food stamps and cards and
health and education. FEMA's there for disasters, emergencees. Gee, you
think this has anything to do with Donald Trump winning

(49:23):
the election, including the popular vote, and you can easily
parlay this over to the broader problem of illegal immigration,
which I'm telling you like, there's a great article for me.
Pac Times headline in Chicago illegal immigrant immigration crisis stokes
pushback from locals. They're talking about people on the south side.
They're talking about people on the west side of the city,

(49:46):
the people who are most impoverished in the city of Chicago.
I live there. I know how bad those conditions can be.
I know how bad the crime is. In fact, it
was worse one I live there than it is now.
The folks on the streets, the Black commune are all
screening their heads off because, well, they feel like they've
been overlooked yet again, in this particular case, overlooked by

(50:11):
the very people who promised and have been promising for
decades and decades to take care of them, to assist them,
to insist that well, I'm sorry, if there's a man
living in the house who's the father of your children,
you're not going to get government aid. So that guy's
got to leave. Bringing about the reality the collapse of

(50:32):
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been by most sociologists reports one of the main and
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Speaker 1 (52:23):
I apologize for the long winded rambling the last segment.
We have time for at least one call with two
Jays on the line, but first in line, Jay, Welcome
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Speaker 9 (52:32):
Hey, good morning, Brian. I wanted to comment on the
Biden's lust for this war. It isn't just Biden, it
was the whole Democrat Party. I remember Schumer and Pelosi
and for the first time in my life.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
And I'm fifty three years old.

Speaker 9 (52:45):
I saw this whole Democrat Party turn into warhawks on
this war with no real compelling reason of why we
needed to be there, no strategy to win, no exit strategy.
It became clearer to me, what is the motive.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
The motive maybe.

Speaker 9 (53:01):
After the twenty twenty two midterm election where the red
wave never happened and Republicans were outspent like ten to one.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
If you go back and look, it was at.

Speaker 9 (53:12):
That time that the FTX cryptocurrency created by Sam Bankman, freed.
Right after that election, he said, oh bad news. We're done,
We're bankrupt, it's over. There started to be some investigations
into him. He was on the record saying that he
wanted to be the biggest donor to their Democrat party

(53:32):
and unsea George Soros from that number one seat. And
so as they started investigating him, let's think about it
and then real quick.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I don't want to just make your point real quick,
as we're running out of time, and I got a guess.
Come up.

Speaker 9 (53:48):
Ukraine was the largest purchaser of FTX cryptocurrency, so US
tax payer dollars goes to Ukraine. They exchanged that for
useless cryptocurrency, so they give hash to FTX, who wants
to be who then gives it to the Democrat Party.
The lust for war that Biden has is the same
lust he's always had, which is for money, and he's

(54:10):
gotten two more months to keep keeping the money laundering
coming in to himself and the Democrat Party.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
It's an interesting theory, but the Democrats don't seem to
have any shortage of global internationalists, globalists who are willing
to open their pocketbooks to fund left wing interests. So
whether or not you know Ukraine is part of that mix,
I don't know. But certainly taking over our freedoms and
liberties and taking them away from it seems to be
the dominant force globally speaking, because we are an international

(54:41):
powerhouse economically speaking, and it just appears from my field
of view ten thousand feet up that that is the
number one goal for the rest of the world is
to defeat us from being the number one global power,
regardless of how that comes, and maybe being involved and
financially invested in Ukraine and funding that war is a
mechanism to achieve that goal. Some thoughts about I enjoy

(55:01):
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five KRC the Talk station, six thirty.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
One fifty five GRC the Talk station. Hope everyone's having
a decent Wednesday. Always good thing to have. The president
of the Fraternal over Police Chapter sixty nine, that's the
Cincinni Police Department Union, Ken Kulber, Welcome back to the
morning show. It's always great having you on the program.

Speaker 10 (57:27):
Sir, Hey, good morning, Brian, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
As always, thank you on behalf of all my listening
audience for the hard work the Cincinni Police Department does
in the name of protecting us. Now question. Accord to
the Sincini City Manager, they made great progress in reducing
violence among teenagers. And since a city manager, Cheryl Long
said this the other day, six percent dropping shooting incidents.
Apparently thirty two percent decrease in youth shooting victims year

(57:54):
every year. What's your response to this and is this
your view from the point of the officers dealing with
crime on the streets.

Speaker 12 (58:03):
I can tell you the statistics might show its down,
but if he has the cops that are responding to this,
we've got a long way to go.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
And is this I mean, we talk regularly about the
violence that seems to happen on a daily basis that
the bus stops where all these different children are congregating
together and not getting along well. But this goes way
beyond that, I imagine.

Speaker 12 (58:24):
Oh, it absolutely does. You know, what starts out is
just fights at a bus stop turn into shootings. And
we just saw that just a couple of weeks ago.
You know, you have a kid that has been picked
on and picked on and picked on at this Oakley
bus station, and after you know, being a victim three
or four times and absolutely nothing being done by the

(58:44):
court system, he goes and picks up a gun and
tries to shoot an intended target, which she ends up shooting,
but also shoots an innocent person in the in the
process of this all which I believe probably could have
been prevented. They actually held these kids accountable with the
justice system and shooting out court. But it's just not happening.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah, And you have to as I hear you say that,
I mean, I was a kid once, and I know
what it's like to be picked on, and I know
how that you know, confessed in the back of your mind.
But you know, maybe because I grew up in a
stable environment with parents that cared about me and taught
me right from wrong that I never thought about taking
a gun out and shooting someone. But see, we have
a problem that's exacerbated now, I imagined by social media,

(59:27):
where the the the pestering and the picking on continues
beyond just the bus stop. This kid probably the recipient
of all kinds of text messages or online social media
posts that continue to ridicule the child or otherwise pick
on them, and it makes the problem that much worse.
You cannot escape this abuse, this verbal abuse, at minimum.

Speaker 10 (59:52):
Oh without a doubt.

Speaker 12 (59:53):
Like you said, you leave the bus stop and you
know you're looking your wounds and only to open up
your phone and have Snapchat and Facebook and Instagram and
all these other things. And you've got kids that are
still just continuing to poke the bear, you know, bullying
these kids, and you know that you're right, they just
they can't escape it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Well, it's coming up on a break, so let's stop,
because I want to talk about is there anything we
can do? You mentioned the criminal justice system, let's look
to that, but in the hearts and minds of the
police department and police officers, is there anything that we
could do collectively with elected officials, community leaders, priests, pastors, rabbis, whatever,
that could change this dynamic because every year it just

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Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
What's up everybody at the detoxtation. Brian Thomas always pleased
to talk with FLP President Ken Kober, representing the Cincinnati
Police Departments Union and talking about a violence and violence
inherent in the system. Though would team violence SEMs to
be a real problem. We talk about it all the time,
all the uh uh the fights at break out during
the gatherings while they're getting ready to go to school. Ken,

(01:02:35):
you know, it used to be that we would we
would point to and I remember going back to the
day as a Tom striker. If you're downtown, you're safe
unless you are involved with drugs, buying, or selling. Gang
related turf battles that sort of you know, respect I
for an eye. You know your gang hits mine, I'm
gonna hit yours. It was sort of it seemed to

(01:02:57):
be any way consolidated among uh a smaller concentration of
people that were involved in criminal activity. This transcends that
this just seems to be clicks of kids who don't
get along together, coupled with social media and this alienation
and this feeling that you know, okay, I just have
had it. I can no longer take being picked on anymore.

(01:03:20):
I'm going to take it out on someone. So the
spread of violence and the availability of firearms, generally speaking,
makes it easier for people who otherwise wouldn't even be
involved in criminal activity to choose to go in that direction.
Does that sound accurate in any way, shape or form
to what you're experiencing out there.

Speaker 12 (01:03:38):
Yeah, And most of it's you know, like before school,
right after school. You know, these things don't tend to
be going on during you know, major sporting events downtown
you know, blink.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
We just had.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, well it was a very very safe event.

Speaker 12 (01:03:54):
But no, you're right, I mean, it's it's all dealing
with these kids at transit centers in areas right around
the transit centers before and after school.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
So if let's look for a real quick solution, assuming
that money was not an issue, which I know it
always is, if we had regular bus service which picks
up kids in their own neighborhoods and drops them off
at the school where they attend, would we see a
reduction in violence from your standpoint.

Speaker 12 (01:04:21):
Ken, Yeah, we didn't see this ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Uhuh.

Speaker 12 (01:04:24):
Ten years ago, when they had bussing in their own communities,
taking them from a from a bus stop right near
their house to a school, you didn't see these things
going on. It just it just wasn't a thing. And
now you know, Unfortunately, some of these actions from cps
have consequences, and we're facing them now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah, living the reality of this. I mean again pointing
to daily, if not weekly, occurrences of pretty substantial violence
at the bus stuff. The solution seems to have presented
itself without question. So that though we also have and
you alluded to it in the last segment, the f well,
the future failure of the prosecutor's office under the new administration, presumably,

(01:05:05):
but the current failure of judges that are in the
judicial system meeting out heavy penalties of fines and holding
young people accountable for their violence in an effort to
deter other young people from doing it, a critical leg
of the criminal justice system, but also to punish those
that are involved with it and give them an example
for everybody else to follow. That's just not happening, and

(01:05:26):
I guess word has gotten out on the street. It's
like that song you know you're under eighteen, you won't
be doing any time, you know, hey, come out and play.
I mean, that seems to be just the order of
business these days. Kids don't have no concern for punishment.

Speaker 12 (01:05:42):
Yeah, I mean, we had five kids that were recently
arrested for aggravated riot. Their felonies are the third degree,
you know, middle of the road for the most serious felony.
They didn't even have a hearing for could be held.
They were immediately released. They literally have look at this
check off list at intake and they went, you don't

(01:06:03):
meet the criteria for you to even be at held,
so they let them out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
So what does I tell you?

Speaker 12 (01:06:07):
You have kids committing serious felonies, being accused of these
things and they're not even getting a detention hearing. They're
just left right out and so that I will notify
you when you should.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Come to court. Well, and I'm just guessing it's a
general collective ignorance on the part of the voting population
in Hamilton County that they would elect soft on crime
prosecutor and soft on crime judges. But the reality on
the streets is this has a profound impact. Young people
are more violent. They know they're not going to be

(01:06:37):
held accountable because of the policies of those folks that
we have elected. If there was a human outcry from
the populist, for example, the community leaders would join together
and raise awareness about the failure of the justice system
to hold these young people accountable. Do you think that
would have an impact? I mean, do you think that
might be something that would work, because it seems to

(01:06:58):
me that people are getting really close to the end
of the rope on this.

Speaker 12 (01:07:02):
What absolutely, would you know if you put put pressure
on elected officials to actually hold these kids accountable, to
tell the juvenile court system that, look, we have got
to make this place safer. It'll help give you a
perfect example. You know, he just had to State of
the City address, and the mayor highlighted a lot of
fantastic things that the city's accomplished and they have. He

(01:07:22):
got into the part about juvenile violence and talked about
how we're going to take all these steps to make
sure these things don't occur. Did you hear him say
anything about what they're going to do when these things
do occur, Because they're occurring. None of it had to
do with prosecution, none of it. Absolutely, none of it. Well,
and that's the problem that I have.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Right So, according to FOP President Ken Kalber has been
kind enough to talk about this important issue on the
program this morning. The solutions are hold our elected officials accountable,
insist on tough prosecutions, for the particularly the most heinous
of crimes these young people are committing. Try them as adult,
if that's possible under any given circumstance, give them a

(01:08:02):
heavy penalty, and also change the busing policies. So we
had go back to the norm of the old days
where you had picked up a kid in a neighborhood
and dropped them off at school to keep these interactions
from happening in the first place. Wait, hey, we solved
the problems of the world this morning here, ken, didn't
we It was pretty quick too. You're always welcome here

(01:08:24):
in the morning show. I'll do my best to stir
the pot of people getting in touch with the elected
officials downtown with my more conservative leaning listening audience. It's like, well,
we tried, we tried. We lost the elections here in
Hamilton County, but we sure tried. That doesn't mean you
can't force the current elected officials to change their path
and walk down a different path. Because so many look

(01:08:46):
at all the other cities in the United States that
have tried this soft on crime attitude only to have
their cities completely ruined by it, and then turned around
in spite of the fact that they still call themselves Democrats,
but do one hundred and eighty degree versal on it
when it comes to prosecuting crimes that can happen in
Hamilton County. Just start lighting up the phones, Ken Cober

(01:09:09):
on behalf of my entire listening audience. Again, thank you
and God bless the Cincinnai Police Department for dealing with
this stuff each and every day to try to keep
the city a safe place. And you have a resource
here on the morning show to vent your spleen and
come up with solutions, which we were able to do
this morning.

Speaker 12 (01:09:25):
All right, Brian, as always, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
My pleasure, brother, Ken Cobber, thank you very much. Six
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Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
Thanks for calling up, Hi, thank.

Speaker 14 (01:12:30):
You for taking my call. So just to pick you
back on some of the things that you were talking about, well.

Speaker 15 (01:12:39):
The largest.

Speaker 14 (01:12:42):
Public school system in Hamilton County, I'm just going to
say that we have been told repeatedly that we are
to treat certain parts of our population at school differently.
But they're not supposed to be penalized the same as
other students. Because it looks bad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Are you saying that different criminal justice treatment based upon
the color of one's skins, or their race, or their religion, or.

Speaker 14 (01:13:11):
Well, based on race and their sex.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Okay, it looks all right. I did not realize the
Criminal Code allowed for that, and in fact, I think
that we fought years and years of civil rights litigation
to prevent that type of thing from actually being a
reality anymore where it's equal treatment under the law. I
know I'm stating the obvious, Jane, but if those policies

(01:13:36):
actually exist, that you shouldn't prosecute someone because they are
a minority of some particular class, or they are of
some particular gender, that is bat crap insanity. It gives
that particular group of people a free pass to engage
in conduct that is otherwise deemed illegal among everyone else
in society. It's sad to even hear that that's a thing, Jane.

(01:13:59):
I'd like to think it doesn't exist that way, but
I'm smart enough to know that I know it does
exist among those lines. At least, maybe not a stated,
written policy, but at least the implementation of that reality
is going on in front of us. Bad example to
be set, and it's certainly a terrible thing. I appreciate it. Jay,
Thank you for holding a welcome to the program.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Hey, good morning, Brian. How are you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I'm doing fine. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Jay?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
I appreciate you holding.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
Yeah, Jane's comments made me sick. Yeah, as absolutely horrible.
I can't even put my head around that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Just terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
I wanted to call about the illegal immigration situation. I
think you know, I spent twenty years in the People's
Republic of Portland and we had an advance showing of
the illegal immigration issue twenty years ago and saw the
crime rates and everything go out of control. I couldn't
be more happy with Tom Hoeman and Stephen Miller joining

(01:14:59):
a Trump ad minute and extraditing these people out of
our country. I love that they're going after the criminals first,
and that work either way down to people that over
state visas. When you come into this country, you know
that there's a chance you can be deported, and we're
finally going to make that happen. I'm very happy about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Yeah, I think it's a step in the absolute right direction.
And this is not going back to the whole racial reality.
This has nothing to do with race, nothing to do
with which particular country they came from. If you're a
criminal and you've committed crimes in this country and you
have demonstrated you're not capable of following the rules, get
your butt out. We're going to round you up and

(01:15:39):
throw you out. It's already happened in Springfield. There was
an interesting aren't going to Epoch or The Gateway punned it,
which I'm kind of critical of because they're so far
right leaning that they've well, they illustrate their bias regularly,
almost to an absurd extent. But the headline of the
article Haitian migrants are reportedly fleeing Springfield, Ohio in droves

(01:15:59):
over ass deportation fears. Uh. And they interviewed quite a
few people within the Haitian community say yeah, well, I
know a lot of people who have left already. They're
afraid of being rounded up and deported once Donald Trump
gets sworn in. So just the ripple effect of his
statements on the record about deportation, Tom Holman being announced
as the person responsible, and their focus on criminals has

(01:16:22):
had an impact even broader than just among the criminal
immigrant population. Kick the criminals out, get people here who
want to work here, follow the appropriate, ordered, legal immigration process,
and we will welcome you with open arms. Stick around.
Jack out of it in with a big picture right
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Speaker 17 (01:17:25):
Congratulations brother soon becoming a father in law and the
mold of Robert de nirol I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Guess you know, we're so happy because I'm just happy
for the two of them. I mean we we've liked
Eeric since they started going out. It's been a long
time that they've been together, so's we've been tapping our
toes for a while. He says, stare him down when
he comes in the house, because he stops by our
house almost every single day since he works for Fast
Approaches in Loveland, and dude, what's what's going on here?

(01:17:53):
You know, Hey, hey, hey, you know, time to get
off the pot. Brothers. He's been laughing about it, but
we all saw it coming and we're as pleased as
we can be to know that he is going to
be a permanent family member and looking forward to whenever
the wedding day is. But just getting the hardware on
the finger was just enough for me to just beam
with pride and have just really really really have a

(01:18:16):
lot of hope for their future together. Good a good couple,
A great ying yang kind of thing going on there
between the two of them.

Speaker 17 (01:18:23):
Well, Eric is the lucky one and you are not. DeNiro,
Bobby is leaving the country because of Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Is he making good on that?

Speaker 17 (01:18:31):
Yeah, apparently he's going to good besides securing the borders,
shrinking governments, regaining energy independence, negotiating peace in Israel, and
god willing Ukraine Biden doesn't blow things up. I agree
with your monologue, Scared, signed to all of that. I
am hopeful that President Trump will finally stop Washington from

(01:18:56):
licensing media bias. That's what we're going to talk it. Yeah,
to see how We've got to review the whole history
of news in America. And I promise I can give
it to you fast, because this is the gist of
a course that I taught at the University of Cincinnati.
Europeans marveled even before we had a country that as

(01:19:19):
soon as American colonists founded new towns, the first thing
they did was start a newspaper. We craved information because
we wanted to govern ourselves, not have a king dictate
to us. George Washington ran for president unopposed, but in
the election of eighteen hundred, one of the dirtiest ever,

(01:19:41):
John Adams was opposed by Thomas Jefferson. A big issue
was Adam's support for the Sedition Act that prosecuted it
Wait for it, Brian, negative statements about the federal government.
You could be thrown in jail for that. Jefferson's party
was prosecuted, but you couldn't even read about those prosecutions

(01:20:03):
in many newspapers that supported Adams. Instead, the pro Adams
papers attacked Jefferson's character because he allegedly had an affair
with his dead wife's half sister, Sally Hemings, who was
a slave. One paper warned that Jefferson was elected and
I quote, rape, adultery, and incest will be openly practiced.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Wow, Brian, does.

Speaker 17 (01:20:29):
This sound familiar? Big government newspapers censoring stories unfavorable to
their candidates and instead focusing on character assassination. But just
as we saw in this twenty twenty four election in
eighteen hundred, voters seem to care more about Thomas Jefferson's issues,

(01:20:50):
his issues rather than his personal faults. They wanted a
smaller federal government that did not jail opponents for their opinions.
Thomas Jefferson beat John Adams, just as Donald Trump beat
Kamala Harris and her elite establishment puppet masters. But how

(01:21:12):
did our modern establishment media become so powerful? At least
until now. For most of our history, newspapers backed competing parties.
You knew which were Democrat and which were Republican, and
they competed freely in the marketplace of ideas, which is
exactly what our founders intended by adopting the First Amendment.

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But then something changed. The nineteen twenties introduced electronic news radio,
and unlike newspapers, which anybody with even a small printing
press could crank out, the government felt that an infinite
number of radio signals would cause chaos, so radio stations
were licensed and eventually regulated by the Federal Communications Commission

(01:22:01):
the FCC. This was in nineteen thirty four under Roosevelt Democrats.
The FCC introduced the idea of so called fairness and
community standards. More than that, radio and later television stations
banded together so they could carry national entertainment and news programming.

(01:22:24):
They formed networks that were also regulated by the FCC.
And even though there were a number of conservative newspaper
empires under press barons like William Randolph Hurst and Colonel
Robert McCormick in Chicago, CBS and NBC, which later spun
off ABC, all three networks were owned by liberals For years.

(01:22:48):
These networks were much more balanced in their news coverage
than they are today. But the point is conservatives had
no consistent voice in national media until tens of millions
of US began listening to Rush Limbaugh in nineteen eighty four. Now,
Limbaugh was a commentator, he wasn't a journalist, but he
called himself America's real anchorman. Because the networks, more and

(01:23:13):
more every year, were not practicing journalism. They weren't revealing
their sources, they were just giving opinions, and they were
completely biased. They were shills for the left. The Fox
cable news channel debuted twelve years later in nineteen ninety six,
and provided balance while making no bones about being a

(01:23:34):
strong conservative voice in other words, television news was going
back to eighteen hundred and competing viewpoints. But then, folks,
something really poisonous happened. New Internet social media platforms like
Facebook and Twitter were given protection from liability by the

(01:23:56):
federal government under you've heard this, Section two of the
Communications Decency Act, meaning they wanted to be treated like
the old mob Bell telephone company as a common carrier
of conversations. But unlike the phone company, social media was
censoring and shadow banning what it considered misinformation. And worst

(01:24:20):
of all, the Biden administration's Homeland Security Department established a
disinformation board that actually set up offices at social media companies.
This would have been unheard of as recently as twenty
thirty years ago, much less when the founders were writing
our founding documents. The only reason we learned about all this, Brian,

(01:24:42):
is that the disinformations are when viral singing to Mary
Poppins parody. What save the First Amendment was Elon Musk
buying Twitter and making its secret files public. X is
now the greatest force for free speech in the world.
When you take a look at what's happening in Canada

(01:25:04):
and Britain. What already has happened in France and other countries. Yeah,
we're pretty much a loan out there, and of course
that makes X hated by the left. So now to
wrap up, what should we do? Some say the federally
licensed TV networks should be fined, perhaps even lose their
licenses for extreme bias, like the way sixty minutes edited

(01:25:28):
It's Kamala Harris interview to make her sound halfway intelligent.
Trump and Congress have to investigate that. As for the Internet,
perhaps seriously limit Section two thirty so the platforms lose
immunity if they censor for political reasons. Meantime, thanks to Musk, Fox,

(01:25:50):
Newsmax and the indispensable RealClearPolitics dot com that offers differing
viewpoints side by side every day, we do once again
again have a marketplace of ideas, and in that marketplace,
at least for now, the liberal networks and newspapers are
going bust. You can't see me, Brian, But why MC,

(01:26:12):
I'm doing a Trump day. I know you are, just
until Biden blows up the world. That's why he's hiding
in the Brazilian jungle. And we can talk about that too.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Well, I agree with you completely. I remember, I have
a dear friend that I grew up with in church
and he ended up marrying a French citizen. He fluent
in French, he was I believe, he actually studied French
and French culture and college and ended up moving there
marrying a French girl. And he's a French citizen now.
But when he came back to visit one time and

(01:26:43):
I was being very very critical of gee, I think
it probably was the Clinton administration or some policy, and
he was looking that'd be crazy, because wow, you know,
you can really get in trouble in France if you
criticize the government. I looked at him like seriously, you know,
as almost as if he thought it was strange that,

(01:27:04):
even though he grew up in America and probably had
a good understanding of the First Amendment, that we were
free to be critical of our government. That's a reality
every place in the world except here, which is scary.
But moving over and it's an interesting historical lesson. You know,
you start out with you have a paper and people
clamoring for information. Of course, Ben Franklin had his own paper,

(01:27:24):
and there were multiple possible outlets for news that you
could get Then you had the mainstream what ABC, NBCCBS,
and for so many years that was it. And Walter Cronkite,
for example, you know, oh, everybody's grandfather, everybody's father, you know,
the voice of reason. Well, he was his own editor,
or could have been manipulated and influenced by his friends

(01:27:45):
in government. He has nine gajillion topics to talk about.
And I talk about this when I do the morning
show because every day I'm surrounded by like forty or
fifty articles, most of which I don't get to. But
I'm my own editor. What content, you know, it appeals
to me is really kind of going viral of ladies
usually what we talk about here. But I have to
engage in some measure of censorship only because of the

(01:28:08):
finite amount of time. When you're looking at a half
hour's worth of news. The only place you could get
some in depth coverage was waiting around for Sunday morning
in the McNeil lair news hour, and even then that
might be subject some bias. So we were always being
censored by certain amounts of information, in fact large amounts,
because who could keep track of what was going on
in government back in those days? Then along comes the Internet,

(01:28:31):
where we have immediate access to legislation real time. We
can see it before it's even been introduced. We know
what the language is, we can comment on it. And
that's the beautiful thing I think about the Internet. There
are so many outlets. It is literally impossible for our
lords and masters to control the narrative anymore. So people
turn away from the obvious bias that they have in

(01:28:53):
their newspaper their print papers, and they look out into
the world and they see podcasters out there, and they
hear different points of view along those lines. I think
the problem, only problem that exists now, and your reaction
on this is welcome, is we, like the media, tend
to surround ourselves in a bit of a politically biased bubble.
And unless you're interested in going out and finding what

(01:29:16):
the other side is saying and hearing what the other
side's arguments are, you're just listening to an echo chamber.
And that's where most of the liberal media found themselves.
They're just they can't believe that Donald Trump got elected. Well,
maybe it's because we turned our back on their one sided,
ridiculous opinions and sought different opinions and listened to maybe
what Joe Rogan and his long interviews had to say

(01:29:38):
far more revealing than any reporting from the mainstream media
and got a different take on things. We knew what
was going on in our own backyard because we could
see it with our eyes and ears, in spite of
the fact the media wouldn't report on it. So we're
smarter than they gave us credit for. They're victims of
their own echo chamber and their own bias, maybe at
the behest of government, which obviously federal government should not

(01:29:59):
be involved in what Facebook is doing or x is doing,
But to the extent they ever are, then that's where
penalties or fines or maybe license your issues should be discussed,
because the government has no business in influencing what is
posted on social media.

Speaker 17 (01:30:17):
Yeah, I'm a libertarian too, but we don't have a
libertarian regime now. And I don't just mean the Biden administration.
I mean the fact that we give immunity to something
that is not a telephone common carrier but is editorial
as good as you are, and I've said it before
and I believe it. Folks, you were one of the best.

(01:30:38):
I've lived around the country and heard other people. Your
show has improved immeasurably by the wisdom of the hive,
all the listeners who call in and have their own
specialized information. One of the turning points in the history
of journalism, and by the way, you can read about
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starting up, and sixty minutes too with Dan Rather came
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came out. That's the kind of thing that now happens
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monopolistic social media companies. We can't let government shield them
from the criticism and perhaperhaps the liability that they deserved.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Jack edthan you know. I can't thank you enough for
the kind words about the show, but I just you
always have just a wonderful brilliance about in your thoughtful
analysis about every topic you talk about, and it's just
a blessing to have you as a friend and to
now have you regularly on the morning show. Beautiful thoughtful
insight and things that make you go hmm. And a

(01:32:23):
great thing that is for all us to contemplate this
kind of thing as we live our lives day to day.
Jack Dan, Until next Wednesday, God bless you, sir, and
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So look forward to next Wednesday. God bless you, and

(01:32:45):
of course love to your better half, and have a
wonderful week, my friend. Now Biden's lust for War Top
of the Hour, State Reverend and Representative Jennifer gross On
a new speaker, among other issues, and the meantime, welcome
back from the Buckeye Institute, which you can find mine
at Buckeyeinstitute dot org. Greg lost and good you have
it back on Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Hey, it's always great to be on with You really
appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
And I appreciate what the Buckeye Institute does. And one
of the things and you and I've had conversations in
the past about licensure requirements and the number of people
that need a license to do their jobs is just
it's batcrap insane. If I can boil it down to
that simple term, you know, like for example, I was
joking this morning. You know, my daughter and her friends
used to braid each other's hair. If you know, any

(01:33:30):
if any monetary exchange was made, then they would be
in violation of law because they don't have a license,
a cosmetology license or something. Hair braiding, fingernails, the simple
things that require a license obviously are a huge impediment
to people joining the workforce. So I see that the
Buckeye Institute is all over this house built two thirty eight.

(01:33:55):
So what's that about? And what can we do to
open more doors to occupyational licensing reform here in Ohio?

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Ken, great, sure, it's it's been an issue that we've
been telling for a long time, licensing issues. And so
House Built through thirty eight is actually the result of
previous legislation that passed a couple of legislative cycles back
that created an entire process for reviewing occupational licenses that
made the legislature have to have every single license and

(01:34:25):
every single licensing board come before a committee in both
the House and the Senate and essentially justify what they
were doing by license bases.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
I love that. Yeah, explain yourself, justify your existence. That's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Well, and we're actually wanted to kind of put that together.
We worked with some folks who are really good at this,
and we put together the entire package. Actually, the bill
that created this whole process is something that we did
and some wonderful legislators took it up, including actually the
next probably the next Senate President was one of the
key sponsors of this legislation several cycles back, So that

(01:35:04):
I think is a good sign. So we were really
happy with it. So what they have to do is
they have to look at essentially every two years, they
had to look at one third of all licenses and
renew them, or if they didn't actively proactively renew them,
they would sunset go away and essentially deregulate them. So
what that's done is this is the last of the

(01:35:25):
initial review process. So this is the last basically grouping
of all the licenses in the state. So over the
last six years, the General Assembly has looked at every
single license and every single licensing board in the state
and has had to and again have them explain themselves
and justify themselves. And so the Legislation two thirty eight

(01:35:45):
is basically this particular General Assembly's version of the review
looking at the ones that hadn't yet already previously been examined.
So the House did some really good work. The sponsored
the bill, did a great job, Chairman of the Committee
did a great job, the spot the chair of the committee,
and the Senate is an incredible legislator at Christina Rodner.

(01:36:05):
Can't say enough nice things about her. So this is
really a great opportunity to pair things back. And what's
happening is you're getting rid of some licenses. But sometimes
the other thing that happens is that you'll find that
Ohio will stick out like a sore thumb when you
compare it to other states. In other words, we have
much higher burdens or license fees, or you have to

(01:36:27):
renew every year, it's every two or three years. There's
so many different ways that this breaks down, but Ohio
tends to sometimes even in the things that are going
to retain their license, we overdo it in terms of
the requirements. That's another thing that they are doing is
they're looking underneath the hood of the car here to
this examination, and they're undoing a lot of other things,

(01:36:49):
scaling things back to make sure that Ohio is essentially
in line with other states, so that we're not at
a competitive disadvantage for people who want to come here
and start their career here to whatever that profession is.
Because again, you know, some things need to be licensed.
We're not going to argue about everything in one of those.
But the key thing to always remember is each license

(01:37:10):
is essentially a permission slip from the government that you
have to obtain in order to earn a living. And
so we use that phrase quite a bit when we're
talking to legislators permission slip policies, because that is essentially
what these things are. And so you know, if you
have to go to say, mother, may I to government.
First of all, you shouldn't in many cases. But secondly,

(01:37:32):
if you do, you better not be doing it having
to do it in a way that is completely over
the top and more burdensome than what you would have
to do if you were in Kentucky or Indiana, or
West Virginia or in that state I dare say, up
North or Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Well, the point being, we need to become more competitive.
And I understand and agree completely that you know, you
shouldn't eliminate all licenses information. Many people have to operate
in their field safely and responsibly. It's for the good
of their own health, the good of community safety, and
the good of the people that they're providing assistance too.

(01:38:10):
And I think, like you know, a cosmetology degree is
going to require all kinds of knowledge and learning about
cleanliness and hygiene and how to avoid the spread of bacteria,
diseases or otherwise, but that once that information is known
and learned, it shouldn't be something you have to reapply
for every single year unless the state of the business
or the nature of the business is being regulated, has

(01:38:30):
dramatically changed or is subject to rather dramatic changes regularly,
which would obligate maybe a more regular licensure requirement. But
if it's not, and once you've learned it seems to me,
once you've crossed the finish line, you should be free
to go ahead and back your your job.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Well. Absolutely, And I'm going to give you two examples
of things. One is something that I think we're making
some real improvements on this legislation. One this is the
one you just mentioned. Cosmetology is one that unfortunately is
a kind of like a little bit like crench warfare
at the State House to get a change. Believe it
or not, it's a they were they were reviewed this
time and we couldn't get the changes in that we

(01:39:09):
wanted to see there. But there's been bills the Senate's
passed legislation reduced hours, for example, several cycles in a row.
So this has been going back, gosh, I don't know,
six to eight years. I've been working on this along
with a lot of other folks. And I'll tell you this,
you would be raised at the amount of lobbying that
is done by private school costology school to keep it,

(01:39:35):
and they are they have to have one of the
best grassroots efforts you know, they get kids like free
uh credit out credit and like took time to come
down to testify with T shirts on everything. I'm tell you,
every single cycle, this is what happens. So this is
one that we really need to zero in on because
this is one of the ones I think is less unconscionable.
Is we are way out of step because what a

(01:39:56):
lot of other states are doing in terms of the hours,
and we should be re using these because these are
good jobs, good jobs for a lot of folks who
you know, it maybe takes them a little bit of
time to get the money back. So every minute that
they're not actually earning money because they're having to do
continue more and more education and every hour at every
dollar they have to spend on the actual programs is

(01:40:19):
really a burden on them. That's something we need to
work on. But one that I'm really proud of that's
in Houspital twoth that is in Houspial two thirty eight.
Doesn't seem like it's that huge of a thing, but
real estate broker license. Ohio is one of the only states,
and I think it's the only state in the Midwest
that requires you to go to at least a two
years to get two years of post secondary education. Now

(01:40:40):
you can go instead of doing it through like a
credentialing program or a variety of other providers of the education,
you had to basically go to somebody that was effectively
at college. It was a mandate we really state that
did that, which meant that our programs to run people
through are essentially way more expensive and many other states. Well,

(01:41:01):
of course, now I'm not saying you shouldn't license it,
because there's a lot of information to your point. You know,
you don't want to have people who don't know what
they're doing when they're selling people houses, right, and maybe that,
but we had a requirement that no other state had,
and this bill is going to get rid of that,
which I think is a is a really good thing,
especially given the fact you know that we have all
these housing issues that we you know, going on, and

(01:41:23):
we want to make sure we've got knowledgeable people out there.
But we need a good market for people. But it's
ridiculous that we had to have this requirement that simply
doesn't exist in other states.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Wonderful, wonderful updates on that. I appreciate the work as
that you do at the Buckeye Institute on behalf of
making Ohio more competitive. Let's pause, We'll bring Greg Lawson
back and talk about Ohio energy policy. Is connection with
Center build two seventy five, we'll see if that's going
to help us out or hinder us or with Greg

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(01:44:03):
best interest. Bring you Ohio back to a more competitive
level with the rest of the United States. And one
area is we seem to be struggling with going back
to the criminal problems we faced in Columbus with energy
related issues. I know you actually testified as in your
capacity as a research fellow, Greg Lawston with the Buckeye
Institute before a committee in Columbus about Senate Build two

(01:44:26):
seventy five, which addresses at least some of our energy
issues here in Ohio. What will that bill do? And
maybe we can even touch a little bit upon what
it doesn't quite do, because I know you pointed it out.
It helps a lot, but it doesn't go as far
as we need to go.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
That's right, and no single piece of legislation is probably
going to be able to do everything in one thing
because it's really a complicated issue with energy. We've got
everything from how much energy do you produce to how
do you transmit the actual electricity to locations? And you know,
we're growing a lot of high end users that have
frankly a voracious appetype for publicity, especially here in central Ohio.

(01:45:08):
Got in Dell Company. We've got data centers, which one
data center is basically like a village. You know, its
thousands of houses or you know the amount of power
consumption that uses. So we need to really produce more
like this, and we need to do it fast. A
lot of times you build bigger plants that can take
a long time. There's lots of permitting issues, there's a

(01:45:28):
whole host of things. Plus there's a whole complicated process
for how you basically connect new plants and new generation
capacity to the overarching of elect grid because Ohio doesn't
have its own grid, right part of a thirteen state grid,
so we actually are interconnected with other states. So it's
a very complicated and very regulatory intensive sort of process.

(01:45:49):
But the bottom line is we need more generation because
that is what the technology of the twenty first century is.
If we want data centers, if we want to deal
with things from AI and stuff like that and be
at the cutting edge, that is what we absolutely have
to do. We have to do it in a way
that doesn't cause problems for residents because you know, you
start pulling a lot of electricity off the grid for big guys, Well,

(01:46:11):
the obvious concern would deep what does that leave back
front of people? Does that mean that they don't have electricity?
Get brownouts like California?

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Yes, let them eat cake, pay an arm and a leg. Yeah,
that seems to me the point of all this, I
mean loosten at that I'm a huge fan of nuclear
power plants and the new modular nuclear plants can easily
be built one size fits so you can put them
pretty much anywhere a small footprint, generate gobs of electricity.
It addresses the nonsensical environmental arguments that are made every

(01:46:37):
single day and impact every single policy, But they work
and lo and behold, Meta comes along and says we
need massive power plants. Hey, how about giving us a
nuclear plant. It's almost green lit from the very beginning.
So yeah, we the lowly masses are in the let
them eat cake department. That really irks me, and I
think it irks a lot of people, regardless of political
perspective on that one, Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Oh, it absolutely does. And by the way, nuclear and
you mentioned it, the small modular ones. I think there's
no question that those are probably the future. One great
thing Ohio has today is natural gas copious amounts. And
you know nuclear is zero greenhouse gas mission. So if
that's something that you're really concerned about, there really hits
the mark on that the natural gas is likelyanner than

(01:47:21):
call we've got. We've got a heck of a lot
of it, So we should be leveraging what we have
as opportunities here in Ohio. And what two seventy five
does is it helps to be able to create generation quickly.
It creates situation where we're using there's a lot of
undeveloped brown fields, former industrial sites, things like that. People
are trying to get them developed all the time, but
they're hard to do because it's usually for pretty expensive

(01:47:43):
to do it. So how do you get private folks
to come in? So that's not all government money coming
in and doing it, but private people putting private money
and to fix these areas up. Well, what this bill does,
and it's actually Senator Matt Dolin from up in the
Cleveland area. He's obviously won a couple of times for
the US Senate, but this is a good bill that
Senator Dolan has, a really really good bill because it
allows you to use these places that aren't already being used.

(01:48:07):
You can put solar panels up, but we all know
that solar panels don't always work when the sun don't shine,
so you have to have something else to make sure
the electricity continues to be generated on a cloudy day
like down in since I frankly up here in my
neck the wood in the Columbiss area too. So it
allows for microcurbbines and smaller not huge power plants with
microcurb bind natural gas to use what we already have

(01:48:29):
here in Ohio to be able to make sure that
there's no lag time when the sun doesn't shine, and
it allows you to use these brown fields. It's smaller
generation a per unit. But when it allows a person
wants to buy the electricity to do is to what
they call virtually net meter and that's a really kind
of complicated word, but it essentially means you can package

(01:48:49):
together electricity being generated at multiple different location physical locations,
and then buy the electricity that way. And so that's
what this would allow you to do. And the great
thing about it says it can be done a lot
quicker than really big plants, it can be done on
properties that aren't otherwise being utilized for any kind of
economic purposes, and it can be done again quickly, and

(01:49:14):
I can't stress enough that you know, not quickly doesn't
mean tomorrow, But you can probably put one of these
things up in a year or so, or maybe a
year two versus four to five years at least, and
maybe even a little bit longer for some of the
bigger kind of power plants. So this is something that
if you've got this ball rolling soon you can start
to see these pop up over the course over the state.

(01:49:36):
And it's not going to solve it because these aren't
as big a plants, so you're going to need more
of them. They're not going to solve all the energy
issues and the generation issues. But if we need to
get more and we need to get more fast. This
is what I said yesterday, the scent, it is one
piece of the larger puzzle, and so we think it's
a great idea. Again, it's not subsidies you mentioned before,

(01:49:58):
so the problems will have had energy policy over the
last few years. To put it mobly, this is not
a subsidy. We've testified against subsidies for as long as
I've been at the Buckeye I've been testifying against special
carve outs and subsidies for specific utilities. Obviously thinks from
Houspill six, the fraught, the very poor bill that was

(01:50:19):
done with all the illegal stuff, but there was a
lot of other stuff besides House Bill six over the years,
and we've always been against that. What we like about
this is it's not a subsidy. It's not the government.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
It's a way to make money. Let them build the
natural gas micro turbines on land that otherwise isn't being used.
If they have excess power, they can sell it out
of profit to places elsewhere who refuse to get generated
through an electricity, and they will come. You build it
we have excess power to Ohio. It's inexpensive. Bring your
business here. It'll run day and night. Tell you what,

(01:50:53):
Greg Lawson, thanks again for all that you do on
behalf of Ohioans Buckeyeinstitute dot org. Check it out listeners.
You'll enjoy what you find there. Keep up the great work, Greg,
and we'll look forward to having me back on the
show really really soon.

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It sakes so much appreciate it.

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Representative Jennifer Gross to talk about the battle for Ohio
House Speaker as well as a big rally it's going
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on today.

Speaker 15 (01:52:47):
Thank you, Brian. I always appreciate being with you. Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Oh it's always my pleasure to have you on. We
have I'm sorry I regularly refer to the state of
Columbus in terms of politics. It's Republicans dominant everything. It's
like hurting cats. You just kind of wonder, why do
we have any wrinkles in anything in Columbus. If we
want to get something sort of along the lines of
you know, traditional Republican policy in place, you think it'd

(01:53:13):
be just a no brainer, put a bill up and
voted and let's move on. But it's never the case.
And this topic right here, House Speaker takes us back
to the blue twenty two and of course the Conservatives
wanted Derek Maren and interestingly enough, for whatever reasons, back
room deal was dealt and twenty two Republicans joined along
with the Democrats to elect House Speaker Jason Stevens Well.

(01:53:35):
He says he announced Monday he is not seeking reelection,
leaving the post wide open. Do you know who's planning
on running for this spot? Is it going to be
a contested race. Are we going to see this play
out again along the lines that we saw before?

Speaker 15 (01:53:50):
Jennifer gross Well, I can promise you that when we
are done with our vote today, which is at five pm,
that we will walk out unified and one body we do.
But Brian, I would tell you that, yes, there is
another candidate who has stepped into the race. His name

(01:54:11):
is Tim Barhorst, and he is a freshman right now,
but he has experience in healthcare. He's a solid conservative,
obviously the new horse in the race. But I think
I remember as a freshman, I had no choice. Speaker

(01:54:32):
Cup was the only choice. And is that really a choice?
Some of us thought about just voting no, just because
we had no choice. I love the fact that Tim
is giving us a choice. And I believe, honestly, Brian,
that this is a great example of a representative republic.
This race isn't about postcards that were mailed out where

(01:54:54):
everybody's so excited the election is over because there are
no more phone calls and texts postcards. But this one
is literally a vote between your representative and who is
going to lead the people's House. And there, to me,
competition makes us stronger, and so I'm happy to see

(01:55:14):
Tim bar Horse run and get into the race. I
again feel that competition makes us stronger. And the best
thing that Jason Stevens has done in the last two
years was his announcement on Monday. So I'm really you know,
I'm really proud. Well, I'm proud that that we have

(01:55:37):
people that have courage to step in. And I think
that the people of Ohio. I would hope that the
people of Ohio would see this as these people are
fighting to lead and to leave their house, that this
house means so much to the people of Ohio that
these people are willing to step in. And both men

(01:55:58):
have courage and honor. And I do believe that no
matter which one wins, that we will unite, which is
what I want it all along, right two years ago
when Derek won. Yeah, you know, so, yeah, I think
it's going to be great. And competition makes us.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Stronger well, and it also fosters and encourages debate and
discussion over the merits of each side. As a candidate,
and you mentioned Tim Barhurst as someone who will provide
that springboard, and he mentioned he's obviously a good guy,
but the other contenders is Matt Hoffman correct.

Speaker 15 (01:56:33):
Correct, correct, who's a very diplomatic man in the middle
of I think nine children. So obviously he's great at
building teams and working with cats as you were saying,
and hurting cats and so, but also has many, many
years in Columbus, whereas Tim's the newcomer. Some people may

(01:56:55):
want someone who's very well connected in Columbus. Another person
may want more of that Trump candidate, shall we say,
or someone who is not as connected to the city
center square here in Columbus. So I'm actually in Columbus
right now. But yeah, so I think it's great. Competition

(01:57:18):
makes us stronger. I truly believe that we are going
to be a unit and a unified body and a
look forward to where we move into the next General Assembly. However,
I do hope, and I don't want to lead into
your next topic without your permission, but I do hope
that we get to take care of and work on

(01:57:42):
the property taxes to keep, as well as possibly the
income tax.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
And you did anticipate where I wanted to go. But
let me just summarize what I think I'm hearing from you,
and I know you are not endorsing either guy, whether
it's a bar Horse or Huffman. What you're saying to me,
it sounds like we are going to be in good
hands regardless of who we come out with, and that
the Republicans aren't going to be in this sort of
state of disarray that happened when Jason Stevens effectively a

(01:58:11):
coup to Todd Derek Marrin. But at least in that
particular contest, there were some pretty profound differences between maren
and Stevens, at least that I recall. I mean, is
that an accurate summary that I just gave there?

Speaker 15 (01:58:25):
True? Okay, True? And I would I would say that
one is, in my opinion, of course, better than the
other for various reasons. Okay, But I would encourage all
people that are represented by a Republican because this is
a Republican vote tonight. It's sort of a gentleman vote.
We do it. It's anonymous vote, so no one knows

(01:58:48):
how you vote. We vote behind closed doors. But by
participating in the process, you have given your word that
when the winner wins, no matter whether it's thirty three
to thirty, because we have sixty five Republicans voting. If
everybody's in attendance, if it's thirty three to thirty two,
the one with thirty three votes is the speaker. And

(01:59:10):
that's what happened last time. Yeah, Derek one by like
two votes, and the other side decided that that wasn't
fair and then went and twenty two Republicans then bonded
with thirty two Democrats and elected essentially a speaker that
was elected by the Democrat.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
Optics on that were just horrific. And they lived this
day all right, moving along, you wanted to dive on
into it, and so do I. Homeowners rally and protests
taking place today in Columbus. This is a serious problem.
We hear about in Hamilton County all the time. When
the triennal or whatever assessment came out, some people's property
taxes went up by thirty percent. There are seniors out

(01:59:51):
there that could barely manage the situation under the earlier
property tax and now face of the bill they can't afford.
Now they're talking about, you know, throwing money to help
people afford their taxes, which seems crazy. You got taxes
going into government and then government what giving people money
back to help pay the government I mean the circuitous,
nonsensical effort to try to deal with the problem. And

(02:00:15):
the problem is the taxes are too damn high. What
can we do about it?

Speaker 15 (02:00:19):
Jennifer Gross, Well, we have h JR. Six. Now, this
bill is written currently, should have been on the ballot
in November, but unfortunately our House has not. Sorry, I'm
getting a call coming in probably about the speakers vote.
The dates on this bill should have been. It should have.

(02:00:43):
This would go to the ballot for all Ohioans to
vote to put into the constitution that your property taxes
can never increase more than four percent from the previous year.
It's still an increase, but it is only four percent.
And like you said, many people had large, large valuation

(02:01:05):
increases that resulted in much larger tax increases. This bill,
and the other interesting thing, if people want to read
it and just look at the Ohio House and pull
it up, HJR. Number six, line number fifty one is
interesting because it says it will revert back to your

(02:01:25):
values in twenty twenty two. That's really brilliant because it does,
awagh with two years of the inflationary prices and recessionary
type of our economy. That's been under Biden, so it
resets a little bit. And this would have taken effect
January one, twenty twenty five, so that was if it

(02:01:49):
had gone. This is a ballot initiative, So there are
two ways that people can get about initiative. We as
we know, we just had Issue one that was defeated
and that was a citizen led initiative. This is a
legislator led initiative. So we can put something directly on
the ballot saying hey, we want you to vote on

(02:02:12):
this and tell us what you want.

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:02:14):
The other thing is that our tax commissioner are product
property tax commissioner is a non et elected bureaucrat. So
as we went for the people to her and said hey,
we can't do this, she refused to change. And my county,
Butler County, was hard hit in many areas ross Westchester Fairfield.

(02:02:34):
Oh you were all hit, very very hard.

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
Oh yeah. Well, it's interesting. It seems to me that
the value of a home in any given moment really
isn't reflective of the taxation that's levied on it. You know,
you have X amount of dollars you need to fund
whatever that our real estate tax is paid for Okay,
one year the world goes upside down COVID nineteen. Everybody's
buying up real estate literally everywhere, driving the pies through

(02:02:58):
the roof. That didn't change the spending of government generally
that much. Doesn't this ultimately end up in a massive
windfall that shouldn't even have occurred.

Speaker 15 (02:03:09):
You know, you would think so. But like my property tax,
sixty five percent goes to the schools, so remember that
when and then the rest is like local government and
all the levees we vote on. Every time we vote
on a levee and we increase the levee or we
have a new levee, we are increasing our property tax.
None of your local property tax comes to the state,

(02:03:31):
so it all stays locally and all of your levees,
your schools, and your local government, whether it's a city
government or township. So it really depends. That's why who
you vote for for your mayor and for your township
trustees is so vitally important because they make decisions as
to you know, how they're going to spend journey and

(02:03:54):
those types, and whether they request a levee. Also amazing
are the ones who have to, you know, put that
on so it's really the levee system is frustrating to
me because I've lived in states I was military, and
I've lived in states with no levee system. But it
is in. It is ingrained in our constitution. It has
been in our state for you know, over a century.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
I did interrup because roma's out of time. I needed
to go answer all your phone close about the vote.
But the school funding mechanism through the property text wasn't
that declared unconstitution by the highest Supreme Court like twenty
years ago? And yet here we are never been changed.

Speaker 15 (02:04:35):
You know, I'm not well versed on that, but I
have had people talk to me in that regard. I think,
you know, I think that we do need to watch
I you know, I'm not gonna, you know, disparage my schools.
I have some great schools, but I but I do
believe that, you know, with our influx of immigration and

(02:04:58):
those are refugees because they are made legal by the
federal government. That's why we can't kick them out because
they're technically legal. As they're coming in, the demand and
the requirements on our school buildings and things that is increasing.
But remember, those people don't pay taxes because they don't
own homes, so it falls on the homeowner a free time,

(02:05:20):
the whole entire local community in so many ways, not always,
I mean some of the highway and all of that
comes from the Department of Transportation and our transportation budget.
But we the homeowner, because I'm a homeowner, you know,
and the homeowner bears the brunt every single time a
levee's passed, whether they vote on it or not. And

(02:05:41):
every single time a recession occurs and your values go up,
you're paying. So now as we're having an influx of refugees,
they will be paying too. And then there's a demand
on Medicaid, so then you start increasing the expenses at
the state level, and that hits the middle class in
our homeowners. I've always been a fierce fighter for we

(02:06:03):
need to spend within our means and not spend up
to what we keep taxing the taxpayer. We can say
to you, Brian, we are balancing the budget. But if
you give me five billion, and I say I spent
five billion but I really only needed three, I can
still say to you I stayed within the budget and
I had a balanced budget.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Yes you can, and no, that doesn't make it right
today's day. Stop the theft of equity eleven AM Capital
building right there in Columbus. Join the crowd and support
of this measure, and Jennifer griss I cannot thank you
enough for telling my listeners all about it today and
giving us a glimmer of hope. I'm only trying to
anticipate what the naysayers will be arguing against this, but

(02:06:47):
we'll have time to do that down the road. Stay
well and good luck with a vote today. I'm glad
to hear there's going to be well a vote and
unanimity at least in the aftermath in Columbus. Jennifer, take
care and have a wonderful day.

Speaker 15 (02:07:00):
Thank you, Brian, have a wonderful day.

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Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
Hey, thirty fifty five r City Talk Station. Well, that
was pleasant, not searching for you.

Speaker 10 (02:09:43):
Very very generous and very kind of him.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
It's a well standing, well.

Speaker 10 (02:09:48):
Pumpkin pie comparing me to something I love.

Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
That's great, and it's something that's an opinion. Of course
all of my listeners share, sometimes disagreeing with you, sometimes
agreeing with you. I welcome the debate, the conversation, and
you and I being of the little I tell myself
a little el libertarian ilk, seeing eye to eye on
almost everything, including what the hell is going on with
Russia Ukraine and what bothered me the most about this?

(02:10:13):
And I was so pleased to read your column, which
I'm lucky enough to get Biden's lust for war, echoing
many of the sentiments that I had during my conversation
yesterday with retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis. The long range
missiles which they went ahead and used, and everybody who's
been paying attention to this, you included for a long

(02:10:34):
time knows, including the Russian spokesperson who came out and
talked about it yesterday. Surgery Markov. You can't fire these
damn things into the interior of Russia without the United
States military operating them. So they view this as a
war between the United States and Russia and their new

(02:10:55):
policy visa viv. That is, if a nuclear powered country,
ie United States, is assisting a country at war with Russia,
then Russia is now free in use at its decision
making nuclear weapons, which scares the living hell out of me.
They're talking about nuclear war and he even said that, hell,

(02:11:16):
we might be in a bunker by Christmas time. Judgmentpolitano.

Speaker 10 (02:11:21):
Good morning, Brian. Always a pleasure.

Speaker 3 (02:11:24):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:11:24):
If you read the headlines of the Wall Street Journal,
the New York Times, the Washington Post, or watch this
on any of the mainstream cable channels, they all say
the same thing. Ukraine firing long range weapons deep into Russia.
As you pointed out, and as I demonstrated in the column,

(02:11:44):
Ukraine is not firing these the United States is. They
are aimed by data secured and acquired from American satellites.
The data is downloaded only by a person with a
top secret security clearance. The data is input into the

(02:12:08):
missile apparatus by another person with a top secret security clearance,
and then the missile is launched by another person with
a top secret security clearance. It would be a felony,
an act of espionage if the Americans were to permit
the Ukrainians to do this. These are highly guarded and

(02:12:31):
protected secrets. Therefore, when the Russians say, we consider this
an American an attack on an American attack on Russia,
They're one hundred percent correct what I've just explained.

Speaker 10 (02:12:44):
President Putin understands.

Speaker 8 (02:12:45):
An entry level diplomat and an entry level spy and
an entry level a GI understands what I've just explained.
The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street
Journal do not. On on top of that, why are
we fighting a war against Russia? And did I miss something?

(02:13:07):
Did the Congress declare war in Russia? And of course
it didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
Our favorite topic, Biden.

Speaker 8 (02:13:12):
And the death throws of one of the most abysmal
presidential administrations doing what trying to start World War three?
Trying to put a catastrophe into the lap of Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:13:25):
Yes, and you know that is the scariest component of this.
I mean, whether or not there's a justifiable reason for
us to be defending Ukraine and I can't necessarily come
up with one. It seemed the timing of this seems
as though the President of the United States of America
are those that are pulling his puppet strings want to
create a catastrophe, a potential global catastrophe, just to set

(02:13:49):
Donald Trump off on the wrong path or on a difficult,
challenging path. The ultimate low political blow, the death of
potentially millions of people for that political end. And I
move over on that because it sounds as crazy it is.
But look at what these missiles accomplished, virtually nothing. They
shot down most of them. They've got a dome system,

(02:14:12):
just like we do, and just like the Israelis do,
and they haven't had.

Speaker 8 (02:14:16):
Much systems in the Israelis and a better system than
we do. One got through and it destroyed an ammunition depot,
and because it was ammunition in there, there were many
secondary and tertiary explosions.

Speaker 10 (02:14:30):
But nobody, but nobody died.

Speaker 8 (02:14:33):
The Russians know exactly what's going on here, and they'll
retaliate in their own time and way. But what is
extremely dangerous here is the plane with fire. Because of
the nuclear capabilities of the United States and of Russia
and Ukraine is foolishly allowing itself to get in the

(02:14:55):
middle of this. You would think by now that President
Zelensky would have recognized the United States and Great Britain
Britain mainly intel, United States intel and military two hundred
and forty billion dollars worth of US military so far.
Joe Biden has seven billion to go, which he plans,

(02:15:19):
according to Jake Sullivan, to spend all of in the
next two months. I guess only the Pentagon can spend
three and a half billion dollars a month. But you
would think that Zelensky would recognize that American involvement here
was not out of empathy, was out of American lust

(02:15:40):
to weaken Putin and not giving a dam what happens
to Ukraine? Six hundred thousand Ukrainian young men dead?

Speaker 1 (02:15:53):
And why listen? You know how old I am roughly speaking,
You know, I'm old enough to remember the Soviet Union,
the Iron Curve, in the Cold War that existed, and
the Soviet oppression. We had a multitude of reasons to
fight that type of system, most of which would existed
because they were a threat to US, an existential threat.
Nuclear war was a possibility between US and Russia. But

(02:16:14):
with the fall of the Soviet Union and this creation
of this hybrid system of you know, dictatorship, oligarchy, whatever
you want to call, or the former Soviet Union that
is Russia, it seemed to me that we might have
had an opportunity to have a trading partner rather than
an arch enemy. But we're still some people are still
living the Cold War in this situation.

Speaker 8 (02:16:35):
Course saw that, of all people, Richard Nixon when he
started allowing American manufacturers of stereos, washing machines and blue
jeans to sell their products in Russia. Yeah, and that
began the Peristrika, that began the lessening of tensions. You

(02:16:56):
wouldn't know that if you listen to the neo cons today.
They think we're still fighting the Cold War. They think
and they argue that Putin wants to take over Europe.
All he wants to do is lead a country that
is prosperous and happy and gradually acquiring the freedoms that
we've had, and one that is safe, one that is

(02:17:19):
not surrounded by a ring of NATO weapons aimed at it.
So why doesn't Putin want NATO in Ukraine? Well, how
would we react if the Chinese entered into a treaty
with Mexico and put long range missiles in Tijuana aimed
at Dallas and Chicago. You can only imagine how we'd react.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
Didn We live through that during the Cuban missile crisis.
Your honor now. But the other component of this is
this batcrap insanity, if I may be so bold as
to call it, that has pushed formerly non You know,
they didn't play well together, China and Russia except what
was only serve their own best interest, but usually not
great friends in the great global landscape of the geopolitics.

(02:18:03):
Now they are ponied up and embracing each other, doing
war games together. Joining that the North Koreans who now
have a defense agreement with Russia, which is crazy given
the situation in South Korea still exists. There's still that
DMZ right there, and the Iranians have joined into this
fun and game supplying weapons to each other. So we

(02:18:26):
have forced a coalition of otherwise folks that wouldn't play
nicely together at least didn't have an interest in it,
to coordinate their efforts. It's been a monumental disaster.

Speaker 8 (02:18:37):
You want to talk about money, I don't know if
Pete Hegseeth is going to become the Secretary of Defense,
but whoever is, we'll have close to nine hundred billion
to spend. That is more than the next ten nations combined,
including Russia, which has a larger and better army, and China,
which has a larger and better navy.

Speaker 3 (02:18:58):
What are we.

Speaker 10 (02:18:58):
Wasting our money on?

Speaker 8 (02:19:00):
Brann I gotta say something else before you let me go,
because I don't know if the public knows this about
a mutual friend of ours. Yesterday, on the floor of
the House of Representatives, the House voted down a monstrosity
called HR nine four nine five No publicity whatsoever.

Speaker 10 (02:19:17):
HR nine four ninety five, which Donald.

Speaker 8 (02:19:19):
Trump ardently wants, would give the President of the United
States and him alone, the ability to strip the tax
exempt status of any organization whose speech he disagrees with.
Introduced by the Republicans, one hundred and forty five Democrats

(02:19:39):
and one Republican voted no, and it failed because it
required two thirds vote. The one Republican who voted no
knows that Donald Trump wants this. He also knows that
he is under consideration to become the Secretary of Agriculture.
Thomas When I saw the name of the Republican who

(02:20:03):
voted no, my eyes welled up at the personal courage
and fidelity to first principles of Congressman Thomas Massey, who
is second to none.

Speaker 1 (02:20:18):
He does believe in the Constitution, he does understand constitutional rights, freedoms,
and liberties. I'm gonna have to look into that bill myself,
because the way you described it, I'm appalled that it
could even have been entertained as a concept, considering the
right to free speech that exists in this country. As
a founding principal Judge Editor Poltana find him online Judging Freedom.

(02:20:39):
You can find it anywhere. Just search for Judge of
Polton on Judging Freedom. As we always end the segment,
your honor. Are you going to have on the segments today?

Speaker 10 (02:20:47):
Oh my goodness, I have a heck of a day
for me.

Speaker 8 (02:20:50):
Ambassador Charles Freeman, Max Blumenthal, Aaron Matte, Colonel Douglas McGregor,
Phil Giraldi, Professor johns I'm mere Scheimer, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson,
starting at nine, in a few minutes, ending at five
after dark.

Speaker 1 (02:21:07):
I was gonna say, ending it more like midnight tonight
with a lineup like that. Well, we'll be looking for
you and listening to your conversations again, Judging Freedom. Thanks
again for the wonderful column. It was just just such
a nice one two punch after yesterday. Uh, keep up
the great work. I'll look forward to Wednesday already as
I always do. Best of health, my friend.

Speaker 10 (02:21:29):
Thank you, Brian, Bye bye.

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