55KRC Wednesday Show - Ken Kober, Greg Lawson, AFP, Brandon Nixon, Judge Napolitano

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Show at six point thirty Cities new action plan to
curb violence. I'll get to that in a minute, including drones.

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Everybody's got a drone these days, you haven't noticed, and
so the I guess the police department now has drones.
Will drones help curb violence? Question mark. We'll see what
Ken Cober has to say about that. Greg Lawson from
the Buck Eye Institute comes on at seven oh five
Alternative Plan to know property tax in Ohio. Of course,
it's about initiative ending property tax completely in the state

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of Ohio. And this is one of those things, like
I've said before, I just had my popcorn out and
my feet up waiting to see what would happen if
we outlaw property tax by virtue of a constitutional amendment. Yeah,
you got the right to amend the constitution the state
of Ohio. I think it's a particularly it's too easy.
The constitution should be very difficult to amend. But in

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the state of Ohio about initiative can do that. That's
why it's such a thick document here in the state
of Ohio. Anyway, Greg Lawson's got an alternative to the
no property tax. Well, see what he has to say
about it. A lot of concerns and issues that you
have to kind of consider, like how would anything get
funded considering that they rely on property tax to fund
almost everything, including schools and of course parks and police

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departments and fire departments. Donovan Neil Americans for Prosperities, Donovan
Neil on the Ohio budget. You've got a final high
budget plan came out including a flat income tax ray
for everybody of two point seventy five percent anybody making
over twenty six thousand fifty one dollars. I kind of

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scratched my head over how they ended up with twenty
six thousand and fifty one. Why didn't just make it
twenty six thousand even Anyway, maybe Donovan can answer that question.
And yes, some of the unclaimed funds and that that
that mystery slush fund that we found out we had
during the discussion about funding stadiums, notably the Cleveland Brown Stadium.
Oh look, here's four point eight billion dollars we've gotten

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unclaimed fund sitting in I guess a slush fund. I
don't know what you call it, but apparently it exists.
And instead of borrowing six hundred million dollars to give
to the Cleveland Browns, privately owned sports franchise. Wire taxpayers
paying for it asked that question out loud all the time.
Rather than borrow the money and pay back a billion
dollars on borrowing six hundred million, they decided to tap

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into this obviously unreported and unknown slush fund. So now
six hundred million dollars will be given for the Cleveland
brown Stadium project.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
The owners must have some really disturbing photographs of the
Senate members doing crazy things. How did they wrestle that
money from the Ohio taxpayer? Because that's our money. I mean,
they're sitting on it. They have the ability, apparently to
allocate those funds wherever they want to go. What would
I mean in terms of property taxes? Well, how far

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would four point six or eight billion dollars go? Speaking
of property taxes? Anyway, Brandon Nixon, he'll be in studio.
Brandon Nixon is another Republican. We had one on yesterday
running for Cincinnati City Council. So it does happen. Lenna
Matthews joined the program yesterday. She's a Republican, she's running
for a counsel. Talked about her issues brand. And Nixon's

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going to join me in studio at eight oh five,
putting his hat in the ring for sincea city council
under the Republican banner, is there any hope? Big fan
of Corey Bowman. At least he's making an effort done
seat aftab Perval, who finally admitted that we got a
crime problem in the city of Cincinnati. That's where the

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drones come in. Judge Jenninapolitano, who be on an eight
thirty defending Congressman Thomas Massey and his article the coming
State Police. That's a good lineup, Joe Chrecker, thank you
for that. Anyway, they couldn't do it. After all this

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swhirling conversation. We've had a lot of it about whether
or not Trump had the authority to drop bombs on Iran.
He did it anyway. He of course, tried to comply
with the War Powers Act. Yesterday, most Democrats voted against
initiating impeachment and President Donald Trump, even though they were
screaming out loud that he did not have the authority

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to bomb What is the remedy for that? I've been
asking that question out loud for the last several days
if you think he violated the Constitution, what do you do?
I guess impeachment's the only thing you can do. Is
that a high crime and misdemeanor. I don't know, never
did practice constitutional law. I understand theories. I understand the

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arguments on both sides of the ledger, including Congressman Thomas Massey.
So we're gonna hear from Judge of Paulatano and his
defense of Congressman Massie, who's no longer pushing for impeaching
or rather moving forward with any resolutions concerning Trump's authority
to do what he's already done, and by the way,
the ceasefire remains in effect. Minority Leader Representative Hakeem Jefferies

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voted against advancing the same as did former Speaker Representative
Nancy Pelosi. AH a couple of folks who spent years
resist Donald Trump and moving forward with prior impeachment efforts.
An observation from James Freeman at The Wall Street Journal,
it seems that many elected Democrats have been wanting to

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drop the resistance stick for a while, but didn't want
to have to oppose another Trump impeachment publicly. Now they're
on record affirming that he should continue to serve as
our president. How can any of them ever rail about
alleged threats to democracy? Again with a straight face, he
asked rhetorically. The impeachment resolution tabled. Listen to this vote

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three forty four to seventy nine, one hundred and twenty
eight Democrats joining all two hundred and sixteen Republicans to
tank the measure. Representative al Green was behind the effort
to impeach Trump for striking around without congressional approval, used

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a fast track process to force a quick vote, and
of course didn't work out real well, shattering the aspirations
of Representative al Green and of course the likes of
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. Now, in terms of the propriety of
all this bombing, this was also something else. There's a
lot of legal experts out there, Harvard Laws, Jack Goldsmith

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apparently among them. He's written on this topic for a
long time. But he doesn't even know the answer to
the question, which is rather curious. I mean, usually you
come up with a conclusion, you know, oh, in my
learned beliefs, this is I think the appropriate constitution. Well, anyway,
he said, a lot of people are with a few
next few days are going to argue with the confidence
that Trump violated or didn't violate the Constitution when he

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bombed around over the weekend without congressional authorization. You might
think the Constitution will provide a clear answer to such
momentous question, but it doesn't. Again, this is a big talk,
you know, Egghead from Harvard, one of the lawyers that
he gets consulted all the times on such matters. It doesn't.
Or you might think I would know the answer, since I,
with Kurt Bradley, Nashally Deegs, have a case book that

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covers the issue. I have written about it for decades,
and I served in the Office of Legal Counsel, that
is the storehouse for of executive branch legal opinions on
the topic, one of which has my name on it.
But I don't know the answer. I don't know the
answer because I do not think there is anything approaching
a settled or clear normative framework for analysis. Well how

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about that a learned figure in the law has no
concept on what the proper answer is, He says, Congress
over the centuries authorized standing military forces on a larger
and larger scale, equipped those forces with more and more
powerful weapons, and rarely put affirmative constraints on the president's
use of military force. As Congress did these things, presidents

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used these military forces abroad without congressional authorization more aggressively,
both offensively and defensively, scores and scores of times. Some
of these unilateral uses of force were very consequential, For example,
in the last seventy five years North Korea nineteen fifty,
Panama nineteen eighty nine, Kosovo nineteen ninety nine, Libya twenty eleven,
and General Solamani in twenty twenty. While many members of

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Congress complained in response to many uses of force, Congress
exercised its constitutional authority to shut them down. In other words,
the power of the purse only a handful of time
Vietnam seventy three, Somalia ninety three. Congress also tried but
failed to slow presidential war unilateralism in the Swiss Cheese

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War Powers Resolution that does not constrain presidents in the
first sixty days of quote unquote hostilities. For the most part,
Congress as an institution has gone along with presidential war aggrandizement. Yeah,
it has. That's the backdrop for all this argument and
discussion we had about whether or not Trump had the
authority to drop those bombs. It's almost laughable to call

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it a gray area. I mean, there is just sort
of this massive buildup of justification for any president doing
whatever he or maybe someday she wants without congressional authority.
Does that answer the question, the core fundamental question on
whether or not it is lawful under the Constitution to

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do it. No, it does not. It just recognizes and
points out demonstrably over all of the history that Congress
doesn't want to do anything to stop it from happening.
It's almost in a sort of an acknowledgment as we've
had this conversation even yesterday on the program. You know,

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uncertain times require immediate action, and maybe the framers of
the Constitution didn't contemplate this type of reality that we
live in today where instantaneously response is necessary, you know,
and purists like Judgment Politano and Congressman mess you see,
you know the document doesn't allow for this, but practical

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people look at it and say, well, yeah, maybe you're right,
but we got to do something right away. You know,
we're at the brink of war or you know, if
we're being threatened immediately. If American territory is being threatened,
that's kind of a different discussion. But in situations like
the ones I just mentioned, where you and I are
not being attacked, you and I faced absolutely no threat.

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In Vietnam, that was an endeavor to stop the Chinese
advancement that whole you know, the map turning bright red.
I used to remember seeing images of that. Oh my god,
the comedies are taken over here. Oh my god, the
comedies are taken over there. We used to fear the
communists threat. And you know, that's why we engage the
war effort in Vietnam. No congressional approval for that. We

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were there for a long time and a lot of
people died. I've been to see the wall. If we
could revisit history and start over again, would we engage
in that conflict? Most notably with hindsight being twenty twenty,
look at what happened in Vietnam. They didn't go out
all out COMI I'm not saying that they're a democracy,

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but at the same time, they are a trading partner
with us now. They make stuff and things that we
regularly buy. So anyhow, it's complicated there's no answer. So
I guess we're just gonna have to look at it
from the perspective of did it work? And I think

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by all accounts, most people think that the fact that
there is a ceasefire between Israel and Iran and then
Iran's nuclear program has at minimum been set back by
a few months. There's been some widely spread reports out there,
well it wasn't as devastating as Trump called it out. Well,
you know what, until someone tries to get inside the
Photo nuclear base and look around and see if there's
still centrifugas spinning around in there, which I don't think

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anybody has been able to do. We keep looking at
aerial footage. Does anybody really know the extent of the
damage below the ground yet? I don't think we haven't
answer to that question. But it did result in a
cease fire. Iran clearly has been set back in its
military aspirations, even if it's only for a moment in time.

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And Donald Trump does not want to engage in some
sort of long term conflict. He's projected that to everybody,
most notably Israel. So I guess it worked. Five nineteen five,
twenty fifty five KS the DOK station. Feel free to
call get your observations and comments. Love to hear from you,
be right back after these brief words.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
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Speaker 2 (14:52):
Five twenty three happy want to say too, here go
to the phones five or three seven nine fifty h
eight hundred eight two THO you talk in New Hampshire, Gary,
Welcome back, my friend. Always good to hear from you.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
I could hear from you, Brian.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
I keep hearing on the internet. There's sites on the
internet that they keep saying that there were masses of
amount of trucks at Foord Oh oh yeah, moving centrifuges
and actually everything that was in the bunkers. And I
really haven't heard that on any TV or any mainstream No.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, there are photographs. I've seen a ton of the photographs.
There's a huge row of semi tractor trailers and other
equipment lined up outside of the fort of Nuclear base
in advance of the strikes. That is that was obvious
unless you think the photograph is fake, which we're all
going to be to be dealing with that reality down
the road. But I believe the photograph to be legitimate.
But I have never seen anywhere yet. And I read

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a lot of different sites what specifically may or may
have not been loaded onto those vehicles. And I don't
know what it takes to load up a centrifuge, but
you know, yeah, I imagine that's not an easy chore.
You just it's not like picking up a banker's box
and loaded into a truck. It seems to be probably
a lot more complicated. How many there were supposed to

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be thousand plus centrifuges down in there, and I don't
think there was enough trucks there to load up that
many centrifuges, So it's a giant question mark what they
were actually doing there. But there is actual photographic evidence
of all those trucks being lined up. I was asking myself,
why didn't the Israeli Defense Force just mow all of
those trucks down? But that didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
All good questions, and then you've got to think, you
wonder if they might have been tipped off by a spy.
You know, in that case, do we have a spy
in our mens?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know, yes, I think we just conclude that, Yeah,
that's how the Israeli Defense Force was able to know
what to hit where to hit where the generals were hiding.
They have spies in Iran, and I would that there
are some Iranian sympathizers within the Israeli inner circle somewhere
which are feeding evidence to the Iranians. I mean, that's

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just spycraft. Question is trying to ferret them out?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:14):
All good question?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
So you know, yeah, you know, and and they're great.
It's a great thing to discuss, but we're in a
factual vacuum. It's like these these articles widely circulated inside
sources say the strikes only set Iran back a few
months inside report, really, and then you have other officials
coming out and saying, now, that's a bunch of crap,
that's nonsense. So how much damage was done? Gary? Do

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you know?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Do I know?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I don't even know that they know.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, No, exactly, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Even the Iranians don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Maybe not really.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, they're too busy in their bunkers.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well there's that, Yes, definitely. I think each and every
one of them is afraid for their own safety, which
is what they've been fit from. In terms of a ceasefire.
They get themselves a couple extra moments in time before
they meet.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
They've been whacked. They've been half their staff has been whacked.
You know, they're gone. Yeah, So the miscommunication's got to.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Be rampant, oh, of course, And you know everybody's trying
to manipulate this one way or another. There are political
motivations to come up with conclusions as to how bad
the damage was or how bad it was, and all
these different things swirling around. Obviously, if you're not there
and you can't witness it, and there's no one that's
been able to get in there and provide accurate information.

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This is why I always joke about keeping my popcorn out.
I like to wait until I find something concrete and
then we can discuss the realities of what we do
going forward. In the meantime, we're all left to speculate,
and since there's so much politics involved in this, people
are going to come to their own conclusions and speculate
and report. For example, the trucks were hauling away centrifuges. Really,

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how do you know that? Appreciate it? Gary five twenty
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Jay hang on, we'll get your call right out of
the gate and get back.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
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froml kancover FOP prosident on the city's new action plan
to curb violence. Will it work? It involves drones? The

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world involves drones everywhere. Let's go to the phones and
in the order in which they receive means Jay Goo
his first time. Hang on, Jay, thanks for calling this
morning after Wednesday to you, sir.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Hey, Happy Wednesday, Brian Hey, it seems to me that
the whole constitutional question of whether Congress has the power
to declare war if the president does is it seems like,
unfortunately the standards in our country become less clear, we
have less protection. And if you read the Constitution, I

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don't think it's ambiguous that it says Congress has power
to declare war. Now, I think what happens is you
go from nineteen forty two to I don't know, twenty
twenty five and Congress has decided to hide out and
let the president do all of its dirty work and
declare war. Then it's almost like we have accepted or

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Congress has accepted that because there has been a president
not to follow the standard for many decades. But somehow
that creates a new standard and that that part of
the Constitution gets shredded. And after the Vietnam War, this
war powers that comes out where instead of the Congress
going back and saying what does this, what does the
clear standard say which is the Constitution, they write more

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legislation that says, well, if the president decides to not
follow the Constitution, then you can't have you the president
must be clear within forty eight hours that you that
you didn't follow the Constitution, and you can't have boots
on the ground for longer.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Than sixty days.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
And as long as you do that, it's okay that
you didn't follow the standard is laid out in the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
So you're seeing things clearly. That is exactly the state
we find ourselves in right now.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Okay, yes, yeah, so so you know now it's causing
confusion where the egghead from Harvard does. Jeez, I can't
tell what's well, it's not hard. We are we are
we are watering down and diluting the standard because Congress,
and this is what I love about Neapolitano. I don't
agree with everything, but Congress does not have the right

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to hide out, be cowards and so on the sidelines
and protect their cushy job because leave all the tough
decisions to the guy who's willing to make right.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
That's exactly what they've done though.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
But yeah, like the Ohio example is twenty years ago,
Supreme Court says you can't find school.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Through property tax.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Okay, well we're going to ignore that.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
So now what we're going to do is, Patmick, is
you do a raise a ballot initiative to change the
Constitution that there's no property tax because our state government
has ignored what the Supreme Court of Ohio has said.
So again, it's a patch on a patch on a
patch that started off with a clear standard.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, that's where we find ourselves, Jay, I mean, you know,
boiling it down, you know, Congress is dysfunctional. I think
we can just all agree that, right, they even partict
more particularly now since literally anything Trump wants to do,
even if it would benefit every man, woman and child
in the United States, absolutely, And I can't think of
anything you could definitively say that about if Trump proposed

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it and it would benefit everybody, would make all of
our lives better. Democrats will still opposed it because it's
a Trump idea. That's how bad things have gotten. But
you know, this is a sort of progression over history,
like delegating the power to wage war, declare war, and
launch war activities into a president without helding them accountable.
I mean, the only thing that obviously is that law
professor pointed out the power of the purse. They've only

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used the power of the purse on two occasions to
cut off funding for the activities. Yeah, I think we've
identified the problem maybe it's not the Constitution, it's the Congress. Tom.
Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Wednesday to you, brother.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Good morning, sir. How are you today?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'm doing fine, man. I appreciate you ask and I
hope you can say the same. Actually, yeah, sometimes we
have a problem here with the HVAC system. But today
I am very comfortable. Got my shorts on, I got
a short sleeve shirt on.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Oh okay, well, I was a little more information that
I asked for.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well, you know, I I reflect back in the days
when I had I had to address to get a
suit and tie every single day of my life.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
Oh, I can't even imagine.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
I'm gone years without wearing a suit and tie. And
then uh, and then my youngest got married, wasn't it
now six years ago? And I wore a suit for that,
so and and and I have a.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Warn one since so did it fit. I can't imagine
doing that every day. That's that's gotta be terrible.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
I'm not I'm not too crazy about high viz orange
or yellow, but it's what I have to wear every day.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
But man, it's better than a suit. I can tell
you that.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
All right, up your concluding thoughts there Tom, were almost
we're out of time.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Oh sorry. The Constitution, as much as we revere it
is only as good as the people who are in
place to enforce it. And these knuckleheads on both sides
have their own agenda.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
In facts, we have a president who's not putting up
with people's cris and he's making it very clear like
it or not, agree or not, he's not going to
put up with his bs. And of course don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Have a great day, Ryan, thanks, Tom, appreciate it. And
the stage has been set for him to do that.
And I think that goes to Jay's point, the point
of the law professor who's supposed to know the answer
to the questions. History has been a guide for Donald
Trump's actions. Five thirty six. Right now, if you five
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by the best listening audience in radio. It's always a
pleasure to meet you at listener lunch too, so looking
forward to that. On July ninth, Linna Matthews for City
Council podcast at You Fivecarasey dot com. Some really interesting
and overall positive observations from Joe Pollock from bright Bart
News talking about the Israel Iranian conflict and what might

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be in store for the future of peace in the
Middle East. A phrase that I've been hearing my entire life.
Peace in the Middle East. It's been just like a
desperate effort by one administration after another. Some had greater
success than others. And I think Donald Trump should have
been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accords.

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But they usually end up giving it to people who
don't deserve it, like Barack Obama for literally doing nothing anyhow, Well,
you know it's actually if Trump gets a Peace Prize,
people are going to say, yeah, well, big deal. They
gave it to Barack Obama. It's a good point. Stack
is stupid. A lawn care worker in North Carolina charged

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after he reportedly held a large party over the weekend
at a house that didn't belong to him. Union County
Sheriff's Office This is Weddington, North Carolina, said thirty seven
year old Micro Brown accused of hosting a house party
at a Weddington home. Officials said he had been hired
to do lawn maintenance at the house. He said the
homeowners were on vacation over the weekend when Brown held

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the party at their home. Hundreds of people invited to
the home. Sheriff's office also said Brown was charging an
entrance fee at the party. Deputy's reportedly called to the
house several noise complaints in traffic hazards. Brown initially said
he was the homeowner, but deputies didn't believe him. They said,
Brown then told them that the home belonged to his grandparents. Eventually,

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Brown told deputies he was hired to take care of
the homes lawn and had no ties to the actual homeowners.
Several law enforcement agencies came to home Saturday cleared the
party goers out of the house. Official said there were
several traffic stops made at the time since many people
left the home in a reckless manner. Charged with breaking
and entering, second degree trespassing, contributing to delinquency of minor,

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injury to real property, and obtaining property by false pretenses.
Taken to the Union kind of detention center and given
a secured ten thousand dollars bond, and he's been since
been released from the detention center. Idiots doing idiot things
because they're idiots. Yeah, I guess it's a warning. Be
careful who you tell you're not going to be at home.

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It's kind of a warning to folks who announced on
Facebook they're going on vacation. Yeah, we're going to be
in the Bahamas for the next two weeks. Oh really, hmmm,
let me go to the auditor's website and find out
where you live. Think about it. Man arrested after staging
a mock wedding with a nine year old girl at
Disneyland Paris. According to police what Amen. Staff at Disneyland

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Paris intervened called police when they noticed a nine year
old girl on a wedding dress. Park was booked for
what staff believed to be a real wedding ceremony. According
to France twenty four of the news outlet, the mock
wedding at Sleeping Beauty's Castle was an attempt by the
Ukrainian girl's mom to make her quote feel like a
princess close quote for a day. What A twenty two

(29:31):
year old British man who was allegedly the groom, told
police the purpose was to make a video for social media.
Of course it was stupid, yes, absolutely. About one hundred
guests were in attendance and were recruited online to play
guests at a quote unquote rehearsal for a wedding at
Disneyland Paris. The twenty two year old man, the child's

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forty one year old mom, and two Latvian nationals, age
fifty five and twenty four, arrested for the incident. Girl's
mom and the Latvian national were released after a medical
exam showed the girl had not been mistreated. The twenty
three ye old man, the twenty four year old Latvian
national and being held for questioning over possible money laundering

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Two nine fifty five KRC he.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Pretty five k CD talk station Happy Wednesday over the
stacker stupid. Uh, there are some good parents out there.
If you know your child's involved in criminal activity, would
you take him in? Would you turn him in? I
certainly would. And we go to Henderson, Kentucky where that's
exactly what happened. Vanderberg County Sheriff's Office is that has

(31:53):
taken a juvenile suspect into custody and connects with a
series of car break ins and attempted residential burglaries. Local
news June Night said June nineteen, deputies responded reports of
two residents discovering their vehicles has been unlawfully entered during
the overnight hours. Items stolen included cash, a laptop, computer designer, handbags,
lock you're junk in your trunk, Brian interjects, or bringing

(32:16):
in the house so we once Fwidge captained the video
of the subject wearing a clown like mask at the scene.
They later discovered the mass discarded on a roadway. Fast
forward June twenty second, deputies again dispatch of the same
neighborhood after multiple residents report of suspicious activity. One Homer
homeowner provided footage showing a masked individual attempt to open
the doors of several locked vehicles. Another video captured by

(32:38):
a local resident of the same suspect trying to open
a locked garage door. A third discover the two windows
screens in the rear of their home had been removed overnight,
suggesting an attempt at burglary. All three cases, entry was
not gained. Fortunately, Offichill say. The images of the video
from the incidents shared by residents in the Sheriff's office
on social media to try to identify the suspect, and
as a consequence of that, on June twenty third, a

(33:02):
parent recognized their child in the footage and brought the
juvenile to the Sheriff's Office Operations Center to cooperate with
law enforcement. At that point, the juvenile provided a full
confession during an interview with detectives, search warrant executed the
suspects residents. Investigators recovered multiple stolen items you say, the
suspect taken to the youth care center, and, pending further investigations,

(33:25):
all recovered property process return to the owners. Sheriff Noah Robinson,
praising the parents' actions, we are grateful to the parents
who demonstrated courage and integrity by doing the right things,
even inner difficult circumstances. Their decision to bring the child
forward not only aided our investigation, but also gave this
young person an opportunity to face consequences and access the

(33:45):
resources available through juvenile court. That's a great outcome, and
cheers to the parents who did that.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Now who can argue with that?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Amen? Florida, Florida man allegedly assaulted, robbed, and kidnapped his
former business partner, reportedly threatened that there would be consequences
his word after the partnership dissolved, Why are you doing that?
Let's find out together. Albert Arberto Itturi, thirty nine years old,

(34:16):
behind bars in Palm Beach County. Police charged him with
six phonies, including armed kidnapping, robbery with a firearm, and
aggravated battery. Victim thirty nine year old Jeremy Marcus, a
childhood friend and former business partner, who told police that
Ittury allegedly ambushed him in his car outside a gym
located in Boca Ratan probable cause statement says Marcus told

(34:39):
police that Atturrey tased him and robbed him after reportedly
telling him quote you cannot afford to not pay me close. Quote.
Statement described the fallout between the two told. Marcus told
police the two men were longtime high school friends have
been conducting business deals together for years. They ran a

(34:59):
business involved pawning firearms in real estate. Marcus told police
that he noticed a toury was not being transparent with
his side of the real estate business and wanted to
end the partnership, telling police after one hundred and forty
thousand dollars business deal in late twenty four told a
Turrey that the amount was about what they owed Marcus's mother,
so they could end their business partnership and basically call

(35:19):
it even. He described a Tourrey as extremely upset about
that proposal. After the partnership dissolved, statements sed Aury continued
to run himself further into debt, maxing out credit cards,
taking out loans that he couldn't repay. One day in April,
A Turrey showed up at Marcus's workpace, jittery and possibly

(35:40):
high on drugs, and at some point started screaming at Marcus,
and Marcus forced him to leave as a tradition incident,
according to the statement, and seemed to be the turning
point for a Toury, who then reportedly began leaving the
other man threatening voicemail messages On WhatsApp. A Terry reportedly said,
you cannot afford to not pay me. You can't afford it.

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Voice message reporter became increasingly threatening with Terry also told Marcus,
your mom's in the middle of it, so think clearly
before you don't pay me. You have until Monday to
pay me what we agreed on another message. Whatever happens
from there is consequences of your actions and your decisions,
because I would not do this to you. June ninth,

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Marcus went to the gym to work out. Walking back
to his car, told police he felt what appeared to
be two taser prongs into his back. He estimated the
taser attacktive have lasted about a minute, and when he
was able to look up, he allegedly saw a Terry
standing over him. Then, allegedly a Terry switched out his
taser for a handgun. Terry allegedly forced Marcus to the

(36:49):
back seat of his truck, where Marcus was told to
put on a pair of handcuffs. Marcers tried asking Terry
what he was doing during and told the police that
his ex business partner looked like he won to kill him.
He forced Marcus to leave his mother. His mother wire
fifty thousand dollars to a Tourrey, telling her it was

(37:10):
time sensitive, then he would explain the circumstances later. Marcus
also tried to call nine one one while he was handcuffed,
but was unable to complete the call. After a Tourrey
took his phone away, but the bank wasn't open, so
they drove around for a while. And went to Starbucks.
Eventually went back to Marcus's Homewhere, Terry allegedly robbed him

(37:31):
of rolox, watch, thirty thousand in cash, and several firearms.
He then left Marcus. He let Marcus take his shower
and patch up a laceration on his head before dropping
him back at the gym. Marcus plaited a day to
call the police after trying to view surveillance video from
the gym. During the investigation of Marcus's claims, police able
to view the footage, which showed a toury's alleged taser

(37:53):
attack as well as his vehicle. They compiled more evidence,
including the Starbucks receipt. They got a warrant and arrested
the Terry charged charged with arm kidnapping, arm robbery of
the firearm, aggravator, battery, grand theft, larseny of less than
five grand for the firearms, grand theft, larsening more than
twenty grand but less than one hundred, and tampering with

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a witness five fifty seven fifty five KR. See the
talk station coming up, Ken Cober the city's new action
planned to curve violence. That's at six third. We got
time to talk between now and then it'll be right back.
Big things are happening.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
We're coming to you live right now.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
We'll tell you more at the top of the hour.
Six and eighty arrests just in this one operation fifty
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Speaker 1 (38:40):
Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Ken Cober, FLP president joins the program the bottom of
the ar to talk about the new proposal to address
the crime wave which apparently the mayor is now acknowledging
or dealing with in the city Cincinnati. H I thought
crime was down. No, apparently not. Too many residents are
becoming victims right now, according to the mayor, and in quote,
too many neighborhoods are concerned about the safety of their streets. Well,

(39:08):
at least he's acknowledged the reality of conditions in downtown Cincinnati.
Ken Kober will be talking about that. It took him on,
I know, Joe took him. Look what was at that
animal House movie? Kevin Bacon remain calm. Nothing to see here,
you know, there's nothing going on. Craig Laws and Buckeye
Institute joined the program in one hour alternative plan to

(39:31):
the concept of no property tax in Ohio. Of course,
that ballot initiative to change constitution to vacate the property tax.
Chuckle every time I think about that. Donovan and ne
Americans for Prosperity on the Ohio budget, flat tax two
point seventy five percent for everybody making more than twenty
six grand, well twenty six and fifty one dollars anyway,

(39:53):
property tax and money for stadiums. And yes, the Ohio
budget includes six hundred million dollars from the slush fund
that we just found out about to go to the
Cleveland Browns. Why, I don't know, you know, that's the
source of anger and ire for me. We get to
talk about it with Donovan at seven thirty. Brandon Nixon,
another Republican running for city council. He'll be in studio

(40:13):
at eight oh five, and Judge editor Paulitano on defending
Congressman Thomas Massey and the coming state police. That's the
subject matter of his op ed piece, which I am
fortunate to get an early advanced copy of. Do you
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He exercising critical thinking. I'm Jay called earlier and this
sort of brought up the subject matter how much damage
was done to the Fordham nuclear base in Iran's nuclear capabilities.
You don't know, and I don't know, Pete heggs Eth.

(40:57):
You heard the top of the IRO News. From what
I've seen, we've knocking back into stone Age my summary
of his conclusions. But in other reports, preliminary classified intelligence
report produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency counters White House's
claim of more extensive damage. This is a report that

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was released I think by somebody like a eleaked report
found the US military strikes last week on the nuclear
facilities in Iran only set back Tehran's nuclear ambitions by
a few months, countering claims made by President Trump on
the White House and I love this. It's Wall Street

(41:40):
General's Dustin Vults reporting. According to people familiar with the intelligence, Notably,
no one's mentioned the initial findings written by the Defense
Intelligence Agency relied on military damage assessments following the bombings,
the people said, adding that the assessment could share as

(42:00):
more intelligence is collected, furthering to my point, they don't know.
This is wild speculation. So critically, I read critically, you know,
step back from your own beliefs. I hate Trump. This
was wrong, it was unconstitutional, it didn't help us, blah
blah blah blah blah. And there's no way that we
blew up the Center refugees. Well, you want to believe

(42:21):
that because it would counter Trump's narrative. But maybe Trump's right,
Maybe he Hexath is right that in fact it was destroyed.
You and I don't know. Apparently the senior administration officials
confirmed that the existence of this report that was released,
saying it only knocked him back a couple of months,

(42:41):
but also notes that intelligence agencies frequently produced classified reports
that are later revised, sometimes substantially, as more information is recollected.
They don't necessarily reflect the views of other spy agencies,
and disagreement among the agencies isn't uncommon, he writes, YEP
pivot over to Carolyn Levitt, White House Press Secretary. The

(43:03):
alleged assessment is flat out wrong. She also blamed, in
her words, anonymous low level loser in the intelligence community
for leaking the report to the media. All right, so
who do we believe my position? No one? At this point,

(43:25):
something was done. We know the bombs were dropped. We
can see photographic evidence of the holes in the ground.
There is demonstrably damage done to the area. How much
don't know. I think the first people with legitimate information
probably will be what will come from Israeli sources, the Mosad,
for example, they obviously have some spies on the ground

(43:49):
in Iran, which of course allowed them to pull off
the amazing military victory that they seem to have achieved
that resulted in this ceasefire. There is no answer the question,
let's see what west Side Jim's got today? What's Saidee Jim.
Always a pleasure to hear from you, my friend. I
hope you are doing well.

Speaker 9 (44:09):
Boy, and Brian, I'm glad to hear your dressing comfortably
in there this morning.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I'm allowed to do it. That's it's the beauty of radio.

Speaker 9 (44:19):
I don't really want to see pictures of this, but
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I have a fifty five cars Polo on Loo. I
looked reasonable, I look appropriate for the weather, and I'm
certainly dressed appropriately for radio. I could be sitting here
buck naked and no one would know one way or
the other.

Speaker 9 (44:35):
Strecker would God, I just ate breakfast too, My god.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
It goes.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Channel twelve. This goes long with Kencover.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
Cannel twelve did a story last night Candle Channel. This
guy was telling him and three of his other friends,
who he described as large gentleman, went to Ruby's for dinner.
When they came out, they were going to go to
the banks again, have a couple of drinks and socialize,
and about halfway down, all of a sudden, one of

(45:06):
their people's got knocked to the ground, got punched in
the back of the head, and about fifteen to twenty
utes jumped on them, beat the living crap out of them,
took their cell phones and their keys, and then then
took off. And he said, we didn't even have a
chance to fight back. He said, it landed so quick,
and he just punched everybody in the back of the head,

(45:27):
YadA YadA, knock them to the ground. So there's another
story how downtown is not safe. The element knows where
people are and people go and if they if you
can put five hundred cops down there, and they're going
to go up to West Price Hill or are going
to go to Bond Hill, they're going to go somewhere
else and then it'll come back downtown. It's almost like

(45:50):
an organization.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Brian, Well, it is. And Jim, I mean I think
you hit the nail on the head there. They know
where people are going to be. And if you go
to Jeff Ruby's and I I've never been to the
downtown Jeffruby's location, yet I hear it's wonderful. I've been
to Jeff Ruby's steakhouses and I've had wonderful meals there.
They're expensive, right, I mean you're gonna I mean you're

(46:11):
you're looking at minimum one hundred at one hundred a
head minimum, and that's if you steer Clara alcohol right.
Oh listen, I know I have paid. I've been out
to the one up here, the Carlo and Johnny's location.
I've also been to the Preescinct before. I know what
a state costs at those places. I know what a
whole meal costs at those places. And I don't regularly go.

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But if you know that people who can afford to
spend four hundred, five hundred dollars on a meal are
going to be there. They're the ones that are probably
going to have at least cell phones, car keys to
expensive cars, maybe a big fat water cash, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera, and easy targets. I mean, you know,
people in their fifties and their sixties maybe not in

(46:55):
a position to defend themselves going to a restaurant where
they are going to be drinking in air, cannot carry
their concealed carry weapon with them because you're not allowed
to drink when you're carrying concealed apparently, So you know,
it's just it's like rob me here, I'm going to
Ruby's rob me. It's scary.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
And that was gonna be my point.

Speaker 9 (47:15):
How was a husband and wife that maybe wants a
knife out and knife out jeez, one a morning night
out and they want to travel the same route, what
are they going to do? I mean, they're gonna get
beat up, just like these four guys did.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Four.

Speaker 9 (47:32):
I mean, it wasn't like two guys or one guy.
It was four guys, and the way he described it,
rather large guys.

Speaker 7 (47:37):
They don't care what you look like.

Speaker 9 (47:40):
When there's fifteen or twenty of them, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
You're out numbered.

Speaker 9 (47:45):
And that's this way it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Be unless you're Bruce Lee and you can fight fifteen
or twenty people alone. But apparently, have you ever noticed
in those movies the people who are trying to beat
you up take turns going after the good guy. They
wait in the background, and then you know, after one
guy gets a crap kicked out of him, then another
guy comes in. And it doesn't work that way in
real life. They all attack you simultaneously.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
You just need to be John Wick.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, notably. John Wick is usually armed heavily.

Speaker 9 (48:17):
And they never run out of bullets.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
No, never, multiple magazines, Well it's a sorry state of affairs.
I agree some people.

Speaker 9 (48:26):
Brian Clips, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, well magazine, it's okay. The CINCINNT Police Department now
has drones.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
Oh yeah, that's that's well.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Anything can help.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be negative about it.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Anything can help.

Speaker 9 (48:40):
But here again, you're gonna show a picture of.

Speaker 7 (48:41):
People getting beat up.

Speaker 9 (48:43):
Okay, it takes so long to get to the scene,
Like this guy said, it all lasted about fifteen twenty seconds. Well,
all of a sudden you turn around, people are gone,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I understand, I understand. It's a sorry state of affairs,
and there's literally I don't think there's anything law enforcement
can do. There's not enough police officers, even under the
regular standards. There certainly is never enough police officers to
provide personal security protection to every single human being that
lives within the city of Cincinnati. So you're always left

(49:14):
with that challenge. You know, when seconds counts, you're lucky
if the police are even minutes away. It's just a
factor when calls.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
And Quinn Widvid wanted to knock it down the seven
hundred cops. Yeah, so you know we're short cops now
by about one hundred and sixty. My god, if they
did knock it down to seven hundred, we beat Third
World real quick.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Well it's going in that direction. Sadly, It's okay though,
because now the police department has drones. Good thanks, Brian,
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If you have GIRC detalk station. At the Wednesday, last
person out of New York City, please bring the American
flag as an illustration of just how far batcrap left
wing LOONI the city has become. The Democratic socialist Zorhran
mom Donnie won the runoff to be the mayor, moving

(51:26):
on to the election in the fall. Thirty three years old.
He will be the first Muslim mayor in the nation's
most popular city, populous city. He's a socialist. A thirty
three year old socialist Muslim ran and won in this
this runoff forty three point six percent. Andrew Cuomo came

(51:47):
in second with thirty six point two percent, was another guy,
Brad Lander at eleven and Adrian Adams at four percent.
I will be your Democratic nominee for Mayor of New York,
he declared. He described his vision for New York City
future as, in his words, a place where the mayor
will use their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism. Someone

(52:12):
needs to explain the definition of fascism to the man, anyway,
to stop mass ice agents from deporting our neighbors and
govern our city as a model for the Democrat Party.
I will be mayor for every New Yorker, whether you
voted for me or Governor cuomo Ie, or felt too
disillusioned by the long broken political system to vote at all.
I will fight for his city that works for you,

(52:33):
that is affordable for you, that is safe for you.
I will work to be a mayor. You will be
proud to call your own notice how he didn't put
any like flesh on the bones of how he's going
to make New York City one of the most expensive
cities on the planet to live, how he's going to
make it safer to ride the subway with his socialist policies,

(52:59):
and how the mayor of one city will be able
to fight against Trump's fascism. Meanwhile, Department of Homeland Security
continues to arrest Iranian nationals criminals. They are I mean,
these folks are awful, you know, amid this whole concern
of terrorst sleeper cells in the two million known godaways,

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among which include Iranians may be affiliated with oh I
don't know, ISIS or other terror organizations. I mean, the
list of these folks, I mean all over the place,
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(53:41):
Ribbar Kharimi in Alabama, he served as an Iranian Army
sniper from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one. In his
possession when he was arrested by ICE agents who are
rounding these folks up, he had an Islamic Republican Republic
of Iran Army I D card. Came in on a
K one visa, which is a reserve for aliens engaged

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to be married to American citizens under Obama administration or
Biden administration. He never adjusted his status a legal requirement
and he is removable from the United States now in
ICE custody. And he's probably one of the lesser offenders
that were rounded up. And I found it really interesting
that they were able to round these folks up. They
obviously knew where they were. And when you read the

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backgrounds and their and their arrest records and some of
the horrific crimes they've committed, to the fact that they
have been well eligible for ejection from our country pursuing
to court orders for a long long time. Many of them.
Why wasn't anything done before six twenty six. It's okay

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though in New York, the presumably next Mayor won't do
anything to help Ice find these folks and get them
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Speaker 2 (57:22):
Six thirty one fifty five KRC the talk stations. Wait
a minute, I thought crime was down. Welcome back to
the fifty five KRC Morning show. FOP President Ken Kober.
He is the leader of the union representing the s
In Saint Police Department. It's good to have you back.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
On, Ken thy Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I wish we had a better subject matter to talk about,
like how crime is actually down, which is basically what
the city council the mayor have been saving for saying
for how long now and oh look, wake up to
a new day. Too many residents are becoming victims right now.
Too many neighbors are concerned about the safety of the street,
says mayor have have purvol amidst the latest crime data,
which sho was an upticking crime of nearly all types

(58:02):
citywide when compared to last year, particularly in over the
ride in downtown where four men coming out of Jeff
Ruby's were beaten down by a gang of roving teams
just as recently as last Friday, Ken, What the hell
is going on?

Speaker 11 (58:17):
Well, you know summertimes here, it's warm out and criminals
are being criminals.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
It's about as bluntly as I can put it.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Well, let us take a look quickly at what the
city is proposing by way of dealing with this. City
officials announced it, I think what they call our new initiatives,
the combat crime, including a roving task force. I guess
that involves thirty officers that are moved around in different
areas wherever I suppose crime is reported. This is the problem.

(58:49):
You know, the crime happens, Officers of course show up
to try to catch the bad guy and deal with
the aftermath. But you can't unring the bell of someone
being attacked, shot, murdered, whatever the case may be. So, yeah,
roving police officers. Of course, lateral hires. You and I
talked about that before. It's a way to get people
on the street quickly as opposed to going through the
whole training process with new recruits. But we've got some

(59:12):
new recruit classes. Also, drones. Apparently the city since an
a police department now has drones. I don't know how
a drone helps. I guess it helps with surveillance in
a crime scene, but does that help stop crime?

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Now?

Speaker 11 (59:27):
That was kind of the takeaway that I got from
it yesterday was most of what was discussed was about reaction,
was about how to catch the bad guy after the
crime's been committed.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Drones are a very useful tool.

Speaker 11 (59:41):
They are, especially if somebody that's fleeing, Yeah, to be
to be able to catch them. What I didn't hear
was this is what we're going to do to be
proactive to actually catch these bad guys. These are the
policies or these are the procedures that we're going to
change so officers are on hand cuff so they can
go do their jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
That's just what I didn't hear yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Well, I understand they're going to try to work with businesses, people.
I guess generally speaking, anyone who wants to hook up
the police department with surveillance cameras. If you let the
world and it's like almost like having an officer on
the corner, I would suggest ken, you know, if everybody
in the community knows that there are cameras activated, and
everybody's got one these days, and they are constantly monitoring

(01:00:25):
the activity, ergo, if you're got to commit a crime,
you're going to be caught on video doing it, and
you're going to be more likely to be arrested. That
might act as a deterrence. I know it's a very
Orwellian in concept, but I at least they appreciate the
concept of trying to get people to cooperate working with
the police and giving them access to their cameras.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Sure, and you know, like I said.

Speaker 11 (01:00:45):
Not always lost on the things that they said yesterday.
You know, this this roving task force that they want
to do, it is a group of highly motivated officers.
It's yet to be seen how they're actually going to
be deployed and whether it's going to make a diffy diference.
But the bottom line is, you know, these officers are
going to be going into this and the last time

(01:01:06):
that they did this, they were told listen about do
what you got to do, arrest these people, and then
six months later it turned around. They're all sitting at
the Citizens Complain Authority and they're sitting at internal and
many of them faced a lot of administrative issues and
many of those officers have not forgotten about that. So

(01:01:29):
it's yet to be seen how this is actually going
to work out and whether it's going to truly make
a difference. I hope it does because the citizens deserve it.
They deserve to feel safe in their own homes, they
deserve to feel.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Safe when they come visit the city.

Speaker 11 (01:01:42):
But you know, when I watched this press conference yesterday,
it's like, Wow, I've seen a lot of and I've
seen and I've heard a lot of these same words
from politicians in the past, and it just seemed like
it was just that it was just words being said.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, the word parents came up. We'll talk about that
a little bit more with FOOPI resident cam Cover hold
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(01:02:19):
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(01:02:40):
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dot org. Fifty five car the talk station WUCK station
Right time is s here with FOP President Ken Cober

(01:03:00):
talking about crime in the city of Cincinnati and our
anointed leaders promising to do something about it. Latest crime
data they finally acknowledged yesterday the news conference the mayor
police chief Threetes of Thiji and other leaders pointing out, yes,
crime is in fact up something They had been in
this state of denial over something Ken and the active
officers on duty are well aware of. And a huge

(01:03:23):
uptick over the last month or so, including over the
Rhine where there've already been five homicides this year. The
police chief pointed to repeat offending this is a quote
from the enquiry reporting unsupervised teens and pre teens as
a significant source of the increase in crime. Going back
to the attack on those guys coming out of Jeff
Rubies the other day, there was a group of eight

(01:03:46):
teenagers who beat the crap out of them, stole their
cell phone, their car, keys and stuff. Fiji said, it's
not gang related, but let's face it, if you get
a group of that many teens together, I'm gonna call
it a gang. Whether it's organized, you know, like with
a name, or just some folks getting together on social
media promising to meet someplace and commit crime. That's a
real problem Ken, And how does someone deal with it,

(01:04:08):
she says. City leaders calling for parents to be held accountable, Well,
there's no law in the books that can hold a
parent accountable for what a teenager does.

Speaker 11 (01:04:16):
Now, you know, there's there are certain things that could
be done. I know they said they're going to look
and you know at the law department, the city can
create their own municipal codes. They did it years ago,
you know, in the early two thousands when they were
having issues with marijuana and they created a sincea municipal
code that said possession of marijuana was a misdemeanor of
the fourth degree, where the state said it was a

(01:04:37):
minor misdemeanor. They can make it more strict, so they
can do those things. They can come up with law.
I don't think it's going to be something's going to
happen overnight, you know. But I've only been beating this
drum since early twenty twenty four about how out of
control these kids are and it just continues. So I mean, none,
none of this is a surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
No, it isn't. And obviously the parents are at the
heart of solving the problem. And you can, you know,
create all the social programs and put a pile of
money together and promise that it's going to solve the problem.
But unless you have an engaged parent who cares about
where their children are and how their children behave and
hold them accounta well. I read a story this morning.
Parents figured out that their son was the one responsible

(01:05:17):
for running around town and committing break ins and of
people's homes and cars. They brought them into the police
and turned them in. We need more people like that
as parents.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, how do you not
know where your kids are? Yeah? You know that. To me,
it's just I don't know, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 11 (01:05:35):
I don't know if these are parents that had these
kids and didn't want them, or if the parents are
just too busy, you know, committing their own crimes. I
don't understand how you don't know where your children are?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Well, how about this after have purvol previously announced additional
programs as a way to combat youth crime. They announced
earlier this year they're going to expand youth events like
skating on the riverfront, open pools, and lay eight night
activities at rec centers to curve violence. That just sounds
to me like an opportunity for all these young punks

(01:06:07):
who otherwise would be criminals to get together in the
same place and start fighting amongst themselves. I don't know,
it's just I'm skeptical and jaded and cynical over these
programs actually having an impact. Your your your comments and
thoughts again.

Speaker 11 (01:06:19):
Well, I got two thoughts about that. Number one is
the police officers have felt the same way. That's why
when they've tried to get them, you know, they posted
over time, you know, to staff these events for officers,
and they don't want anything to do with it. The
other part of that is the kids that are actually
going to show up to that stuff are most likely
the youth that are not really at risk anyway, So

(01:06:41):
is waiting for that. So, I mean, that's so, I mean,
while I understand it, a lot of this is just
let's let's just try something and see if it works.
And the end result is, and I was dealing with
Youth Services Unit this week, is they're being told, listen,
if you guys don't sign up for this overtime, then
we're just going to change your off days, or we're
going to camp your off days.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
We're going to force you to work it, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:07:03):
So they create these events on Friday and Saturday nights
and then they expect the police to work it when
we're already short, we're already overworked, and they're going, we'll
just pile stuff on for every Friday and Saturday night
all summer and go, hey, well the police will just
go work it. Well, believe it or not, when the
police actually get a Friday or Saturday night off, they
would rather spend it with their family.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Amen, and go spend it with Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Isn't that a really important point in terms of you know,
recruiting and being understaffed and all that. I mean, everydy
fact we can be. You're making a life choice, in
a career choice when you started going to law enforcement.
If it's advertised in advance, you're gonna be working constant
overtime and you're never gonna get a Friday or Saturday
night night off. I'm gonna go a solid no on
that as an option for my career. Anyway. I do

(01:07:50):
appreciate your point, though. You know, I can see the
group of teens you want to go skating on the riverfront. No,
let's go rob guys coming out of Jeff Ruby's you know.
I mean, if those are your options, obviously the skating
is not going to be a draw for you. Here's
the other element I want to ask, because you mentioned
the citizen complain authority. And I kind of thought about

(01:08:11):
the follow up if you're out there arresting people. And
I understand this is a morale problem with the police
officers because the revolving door of justice. We got all
these liberal and I don't know if it's the prosecutor's
department or it's the judges or a combination of both,
but they're not interested in meeting up punishment on these
young people. It's like, oh my god, they're gonna be
scarred for life. We can't, you know, convict them for

(01:08:33):
anything because it's gonna be a up light on their record.
They're never gonna be able to get a job. But
that's the key element to the criminal justice system, deterrence.
You've got to punish in order to bring about a
reality that, yeah, I'm gonna be thrown in that category,
I better not commit the crime or I'm gonna end
up with a record. Isn't that the point? Ken?

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Sure it is.

Speaker 11 (01:08:52):
And actually your Chief Siege you talked about yesterday, the
thirteen year old in the West End that was adjudicated
delinquent foreting someone in northern Kentucky in November day and
then all of a sudden. Now a week ago, the
same thirteen year old is running around the West End
with a semiotic pistol with a fifty round drum magazine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Oh my god, don't I don't think that deterrent worked.
That This is where we're at.

Speaker 11 (01:09:21):
The kid never should have been out, and that's that
is an absolute court system blunder. The kid was actually
sentenced to be held until he was eighteen. Yeah, somehow
was released in May.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
That's why we have juvenile detentions facilities, most notably for
the ones running around with firearms committing back to violence.
I mean, who else should be in there? Ken? Is
there currently a curfew in effect for minors?

Speaker 11 (01:09:45):
Well, there is, but it's and that's one of the
things that they didn't talk about. It's not enforced. Twenty
years ago, all summer we would do curfew sweeps where
we would open up wrec centers and if you were
out on the street as a juvenile, you were going
to be detained. We put you in the back of
a prisoner van, take you to a rec center. You
would processed. Bit officers there doing all the processing would

(01:10:07):
call the parentsy go come pick up your child, or
they're going to twenty twenty. That law is already there,
it's just not being utilized. It's just not you do
arrest of juvenile for curfew and try to take them
up to twenty twenty right now, neither the juvenile detention center.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
They won't even take them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Well, that's a breakdown in the system. I mean an
obvious one state the obvious. But that's what's the point
of having a law on the book, one that probably
be more effective than anything else preventing these gangs of
roving teenagers from assaulting and battering people. I don't understand.
Is there a directive within the police department from the

(01:10:45):
top authorities to not utilize or is it enforce that
curfew or is it just simple practical effect that it's
not worth the police officer's time because of exactly what
you said, it's not going to result in anything happening.

Speaker 11 (01:10:59):
Well, it's just it's not effective when you have two
officers you'll work in downtown on a Friday or Saturday night,
and then you have a juvenile that you call twenty
twenty and they go, we're not taking them. So why
are you going to drive up to Mount Auburn to
take this kit? Up there for them to refuse him,
and now they're offered for an hour wait, yeah, parent
to come while everything else is going on downtown.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
That's not a pretty picture. Can cover it? Really isn't well.
I think obviously they've addressed the issue, or at least
they purportedly addressed the issue of the understaffing. Three new
classes of at least one hundred and fifty of officers.
They're trying to do lateral hires, and good luck to
them on that. Do you know how successful or can
you predict how successful they're going to be with getting

(01:11:40):
laterals in given the state of affairs in the city
on the police department generally.

Speaker 11 (01:11:46):
I'll be honest, I don't think they'll have any trouble
filling a class. There's a lot of interest. You know,
a lot of officers that are already experienced come here
because we do have pretty decent pay, we do benefits.
So I think I don't there's been a lot of interest.
I don't think we're going to have any trouble of
trouble still in the class.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Well, we can leave on that positive note. Ken, Let's
I'm very very happy to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I view things from someone who is not a member
of law enforcement perspective, and it just doesn't sound good
in downtown Cincinnati. But I'm glad to hear that laterals
won't be a problem. Ken cob FOP President, Thank you
so much for your time today. I appreciate your insight
and your thoughts and your willingness to share your time
with my listeners and me here on the fifty five
Cars Morning Show. And I feel pretty confident we'll talk again,
hopefully with more good news.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Sure, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
Thanks a lot for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
I love the pleasure. I love the topic, man, and
I laugh every time the topic comes up, because it's
property taxes and everyone's fed up with how high they
are twenty thirty percent increases destined to increase even more.
We got seniors in their homes fully paid off and
living on a fixed income, can't afford they hit. I mean,
there's problems and complications and anger and frustration. And now

(01:14:53):
we have a citizen led constitutional amendment effort to completely
abolish property taxes. And that's always what makes me chuckle,
because what the hell are they going to do about
funding literally everything that's funded through property taxes. How can
you rejigger the system to cover the costs the police,
fire levies, parks, the whole litany of things that are
funded through property taxes. I'm going to boil it down

(01:15:15):
to calling it a Charlie Foxtrott situation. Greg, you've looked
into this, what's your take on it?

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
Well, I think it's one of the biggest issues that
the Stan of Ohio has maybe ever faced in terms
of how Ohio government's literally organized. I certainly understand the frustration.
I've talked to quite a few of the folks actually
that are involved in kicking off this whole ballot campaign
to abolish property taxes, and they have a lot of
very legitimate beefts out there with how things are operating.

(01:15:44):
You said it yourself, you know, you got the seniors
who are worried about losing their homes after paying off
their mortgage maybe decades ago, and now because of ever
escalating costs there on the property taxes, they can't afford it.
So the anger is real, it's boiling over. This is
sort of a heech. No, we're not going to take
it anymore, and we're going to do something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
But the problem with that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:08):
Solution is that it really doesn't solve all the problems,
because if you get rid of the property tax, you
still have all these services. You've still got, you know,
a ton of the education costs at the local level,
and almost all of your public safety costs that leaves,
fire and everything else it paid through property taxes, not

(01:16:29):
to mention all the other kind of things that folks like,
from parks and stuff like that, to even just doing
the small the local roads and fixing local roads and
local potholes and doing trash can So it's a massive issue.
It's going to blow if that thing goes through, it
goes to the ballot and ultimately where to pass maybe
a twenty billion dollars a hole across the whole state.

(01:16:52):
Actually probably been a little bit more than that. So
we've got to do it off water reform, I think
before any of this happens, so that taxpayers can get
some relief, get released now, and get releaved in the
long term, so that we don't have to run this
frankly pretty radical experiment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Well, and it is a radical experiment, I'll acknowledge, and
I think born of frustration, because I would argue our
elected officials and Columbus haven't lifted a finger to try
to address the problem. At least that's what it appears
from the outside. How come our property taxes one I'm
thirty percent? Are they doing anything to address this? Shouldn't
there be a cap on the percentage they can increase

(01:17:30):
our taxes? Something needs to be done. It's almost as
if this radical effort was done out of frustration in
order to light a fire under the bottoms of our
elected officials to get on the thing and get on
it right away. Do you feel that way. I mean,
you guys are located right across the street from the
State House, and you've been interacting with our politicians and

(01:17:51):
getting a response from them on what they plan on doing.

Speaker 7 (01:17:54):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
Absolutely, and you're right. This was born of frustration, completely
legitimate frustration, understandable frustration. I think that it has lit
a fire. There's a whole bunch of legislation out there,
separate bills. In fact, I was actually have to stay
down so after one o'clock in the morning today because
they were putting the finishing touches on the state budget,

(01:18:16):
the conference committee that was reconciling differences between the House,
no how Senate. So they're actually going to put the
budget on the floor and both chambers I think, today,
to send it to the governor. And there are some
things that they have put into that that I think
are good property tax reforms that are going to be helpful.

(01:18:37):
I don't think they are enough. I don't think they're
going to solve this problem. And in some way, some
of the stuff they've done and stuff that's necessary, but
it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Little bit more long term.

Speaker 6 (01:18:48):
It will help in the long run, but it isn't
necessarily going to fix the spikes that have hit people
so hard recently. So there's some more work that absolutely
has to be done. I'm talking all the time, and
there's a.

Speaker 7 (01:19:00):
State reput Astribuba.

Speaker 6 (01:19:02):
County, former county autogra actually up there, Dave Thomas, who's
been doing an awful lot of work in this space
to try to fix a lot of problems. Represented actually
had of Matthews from down near Neck of the Woods
and done some bills and things like that to try
to help out. So we're constantly talking to them. I
was testifying last week in the Ohio House a major

(01:19:24):
committee on a big bill that had a lot of
moving pieces, very complicated, but that would have done quite
a bit unfortunately because of how complicated it is. I
can tell you there's a line of local government organizations
out the door opposing all these reforms and going and
testifying to the legislators because they don't want to change things.

(01:19:48):
And some maybe you can't change, but a lot you can,
and a lot of folks don't want to change the
status quo. So you've got this interesting vice really on legislatives.
You've got this incredible anger in the grass roots. Again,
I get it. You're kicking people out of their homes.
People aren't going to sit down and just say that's okay.
It's not. There's a moral issue here. You know, people

(01:20:09):
are wondering if they even own their own homes you
should lose it over the taxi.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Yeah, that's the point that's not lost on my listeners.
I hear that all the time. Nobody really truly owns
something that they think they own because of this very issue.
And it is really in a world that you know,
we have private property ownership here in this country, and
I think it's one of those rights that we dearly
embrace and love and appreciate. But if the reality is

(01:20:37):
that the state's going to force you to sell your
home because you can't pay the tax bill, then you
really don't own anything. And adding insult to interest you
meant to mention the budget. I can't allow that comment
to go without pointing out adding insult to injury. Giving
six hundred million dollars of the Ohio tax payer money
to the Cleveland Browns, I think is a slap in
the face to the Ohio taxpayer who can barely afford

(01:20:59):
to stay in their home to deal with this as
a suggestion, some suggests, and even I said it out loud,
get rid of this whole property text thing and just
increase the state tax on purchases. That way, everyone is
responsible for sharing in the burden of any service. But
that forces the money to go to Columbus and then

(01:21:19):
be redistributed to the various jurisdiction. And you point out
in your article about this thing that there are four
thousand local taxing authorities. They're going to be scrapping over
that money, and they're going to be arguing. I mean,
some police departments they pay their officers more. They choose
to do that. Others don't have the money, they don't
play the police as much. How do you allocate the
pile of money if you went in a different direction.

(01:21:41):
There's a multitude of problems with that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:44):
Oh, it really would be.

Speaker 6 (01:21:46):
And I think actually this is one of there's a
lot of downsides to getting rid of property taxes. I mean,
because again, all the service is a big hole and
everything else. But the other thing that I think some
folks are necessarily thinking all the way through is if
that were to happen, there's something like what you just
described probably need to happen. There would probably be some

(01:22:07):
sort of state tax and increases. They would have to
do some sort of a redistribution out of Columbus back
to locals.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
There'll be the.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
All and they'll brike them up with some formula and
things like that. But the problem is that then the
Columbus is going to be in more power than ever
before because part of the reason they have property taxes
because it's local, it is mostly voted on by local residents,
although there are some exceptions, and that's actually been one
of the big problems here is how property texts are

(01:22:37):
so complicated. There are some situations where school districts in particular,
are essentially getting increased taxes without votes of the people,
and that's that needs to absolutely be changed. But what
happens if you get rid of the property tax is
Columbus is going to take more power because it's going
to have to because it's the one who's going to
be redistributing all the dollars exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
And you know, we're better off having local control over
that money and a local say over whether or not
we choose to vote for any given levee. But the
levees are in and of themselves a problem because a
lot of times you have more people who do not
own property voting for levees because oh I love the
parks or I love my schools, and they're not sharing
in the burden. It's the property tax owner. I know

(01:23:17):
that ignores the reality that rent does ultimately increase to
cover the cost increased costs of taxes on any given
rental property. But in the final analysis, it just it
allows these levees to pass, I think, without more scrutiny,
and and your property tax goes up as a consequence
of it. I mean what, I know you mentioned some

(01:23:38):
solution like requiring county commissioners to prove local levees, but
they're subject to the same political pressures you just mentioned
in connection with what's going on in Columbus right now.

Speaker 6 (01:23:48):
Well they are, and that's why, you know, the unfortunate
situation here is there aren't silver bullet solutions. This whole
situation didn't happen overnight. This is decades of things that
have happened, and I kind of call it the layering effect.
We've seen a proliferation of different sorts of local taxing
authorities over the course of literally decades, and so this

(01:24:11):
whole situation with the property tax spikes is kind of
like a unique confluence of events. It's the perfect storm
because we have some real structural issues and how local
government and local taxing authorities are structured at Ohio that
has been being built up again over the course of decades.
Then you had sort of a unique inflation air environment

(01:24:33):
coming out of COVID right that it has been a
massive impact. And we had housing shortage in the sense
that we haven't been building as much housing to keep
up in certain key places. So that keeps the supply
of housing tighter, which creates higher values, which is part
of how the reappraisals are all working, which is why
the rates are going up too. So you have all

(01:24:53):
of this stuff working together. And one thing I'm telling legislators,
and one thing I try to tell folks, and you know,
whether it's FEDS that we're riding events that I go
through to speak about, is that in a lot of ways,
these costs are downstream of structure, and that's kind of
a nerdy way of saying, it's because of how we
organize ourselves at the local level to deliver the services

(01:25:15):
that people do want. But it's the way it's organized,
and they built up over so many years with these
different things, instead of figuring out how to make things
more efficient, how to do more with less, be efficient,
leverage technology, maybe care services across different political jurisdictions and stuff,

(01:25:36):
and consolidation some things that school districts. I mean, this
is a third rail for a lot of folks. But
most Southern states, a lot of Western states too, but
states with really growing populations, a lot of them have
county based for the most part, with big city exceptions,
but county based school districts have way less than we do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
We have over six hundred school districts.

Speaker 6 (01:26:00):
Deficiency that way, and I think those are the conversations
that we're going to have to have because it's well,
what we do and how the government structure that is
leading to the costs, and then you got to figure
out how to pay for those costs. So we need
to be more efficient, more effective at figuring out better
ways to deliver things. Or even if you did get
rid of property tax, you're not really solving that underlying

(01:26:21):
issue of what's making it costible.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Well, it would force an analysis of that if we
ended property Texas in Ohio and real quickly without before
we part company. And it's interesting conversation Greg with real
no no real answers or quick solutions, Greg Lawson, Our
school funding mechanism was rendered on constitutional about two decades
ago by the High Supreme Court, and yet it's still
fund of the exact same way it was when that's

(01:26:46):
when that case came out. What why hasn't that problem
been addressed by our legislative branch in Ohio?

Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
Be you guys, it's expensive and also because it's the
local state sort of partnership. The problem with it is
we want local control through school boards and everything else.
So the property taxes again kind of like we've talked
about before Poll, I'm just taking everything over. Whoever pays
pays it or gets the funds to redistribute the funding

(01:27:17):
oftentimes has a lot of strings attached to those dollars.
The more the state would spend. I mean, what a
lot of local districts kind of want is the state
to spend more money and they do all the control
and I don't know if that's exactly how it's going
to work. So there's sort of this push and pull
between who's got all the control, combined with the fact
that if you had the state do all of this,

(01:27:40):
you know, the state would probably be raising taxes there
are probably instead of cutting taxes, which is happening in
the budget here. There's an flight income tax and things
like that, and that's just how it would work, and
so it would be astronomically expenses from the state's perspective.
That's definitely what of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
I guess that just ignores the Supreme Court edict that
it's unconstitutional. The way they're funded right now sounds to
me like you might be running the teachers union problems
and pushback because the control would then rest in Columbus.
Not that that's necessarily a good thing, but they would
have control over how money is spent and how much
money is spent, which would take away local union and
control from the teachers.

Speaker 6 (01:28:16):
Well, I think that's definitely per there's no question about it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Yeah, I kind of thought so. Greg Laws and Buckeye
Institute final online and learn more about what they do
and what they're on top of each and every day
Buckeye Institute dot or Greg. It's always great having on
the program, and if you come up with a quick
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Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Seven thirty one thinking about KRSD talk station Happy Wednesday.
Donald and Americans for Prosperity returns and the Senate in
a state of Ohio release its budget proposals, so we're
gonna dive on into that. Welcome back down. It's always
good having you on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Brian, Always a pleasure to be with you. Thanks for
having me well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
And something you and the folks in Americans for Prosperity
we're working on is lowering the the state income tax.
And I guess you got at least part of what
you're looking for. Anybody making over twenty six fifty one
dollars will pay a flat two point seventy five percent,
which some are calling a discount for those making a
whole lot of money. People used to used to pay

(01:31:17):
I guess three and a half percent over one hundred
thousand dollars. They've eliminated that to go with a flat tax.
I'm sure you're you're happy about that.

Speaker 12 (01:31:26):
Well, yeah, getting Ohio to a flat tax is a
critical first step to getting Ohio to a zero percent
income tax, and that's been.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Our long stated goal.

Speaker 12 (01:31:37):
Getting to making this leap happen at this time in
this state budget is critical to that long term objective.
And so we're thrilled that in the Conference Committee report,
nothing's nothing's grant, nothing's taken for granted here, but the
Conference Committee of both the House and the Senate Finance
Committee leadership saw right to keep this in the final

(01:31:58):
conference report that they'll send to the floor of both chambers.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Today ultimately go to the governor. And this is big
for the state.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Of Ohio well, and obviously makes us more competitive. Some
states don't have any income tax, and you know, you
look at I believe of what Texas, Florida. It's a
huge draw for businesses and others who are trying to
get away from heavy taxation. So I understand the point
how much money. I'm sure there are people who were
objecting to this discount, but moving from three point five
percent over one hundred thousand down to two point seventy

(01:32:26):
five percent, how much money will the state not be
taking in. What does that equal to in terms of
millions or billions of dollars as the case may be,
in less generated revenue.

Speaker 12 (01:32:38):
Yeah, I think what we've seen from the Legislative Service
analysis and what our Democrat progressive friends have been yelling
out is one point six billion dollars unless revenue at
the state will collect.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
But here's the interesting thing.

Speaker 12 (01:32:51):
We've gone over the last decade from nine tax brackets
with the top marginal rate of four point ninety nine
percent down to where we are today with two brackets
top rate of three point five percent. In that same
period of time, we've seen our revenues on both income
and sales tax increase to the tune of about four

(01:33:12):
or five billion dollars. This isn't surprising stuff, Brian, Right.
We see this happen on a federal level. When the
tax cuts were enacted in twenty seventeen, When the Reagan
tax cuts were enacted in the eighties, people had more money.
They put that money into the economy. The government found
its way into our pockets one way or another. But
we do it not by having that money go to

(01:33:32):
Washington or Columbus and be redistributed by the bureaucrats. We
have that money invested into our communities, our states, our businesses,
our families, our homes, our properties. That then enables these low, flat,
broad based taxes to collect those revenues and fund the
essential services that we need. We're just letting the people

(01:33:53):
decide where they're going to spend their money, not the bureaucrats.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Well, and that's always a good thing from my perspective,
and one point six billion it doesn't. I don't look
at that as a sizeable figure, particularly noting that the
budget does include one point seven billion in unclaimed funds
to fund a sports and cultural and various sports and
cultural projects, so they can throw that money out of

(01:34:17):
the world give six hundred million dollars to the Browns,
which really just frankly and directly pisses me off. I
don't think one can complain about one point six billion
dollars less going into Columbus.

Speaker 12 (01:34:28):
Well no, and I think you know where the complaints
come from a one point six billion is they want
to find new and expanded ways to spend money. Here's
another thing that's important what we're doing on this budget,
and the final numbers from the Conference report aren't available yet,
and the appropriations we'll see those soon enough. But the
governor what the what the Senate and House ultimately did

(01:34:49):
was trim back the governor's spending proposals by about five
five and a half billion dollars. We're still growing the
state government here in Ohio by about I think seven
or eight billion, give or take, and we're doing that
off of already what I would say are inflated numbers
coming out of COVID. Right there were large cash infusions

(01:35:10):
from the federal government that caused our budget to balloon
tens of billions of dollars over the last couple of buyenniums,
and we're not raining some of that in. So the
key thing here is we've expanded government over the last
couple of buy anems due to these cash infusions from
the federal government, and we're continuing to budget in a
way that grows our spending. House and Senate trimmed some

(01:35:31):
of that back, but we really need to be restrained
going forward in our growth in the way we spend money. Ultimately,
is going to take a governor who says I want
a flat budget or I'm going to really you know,
take some heavy cuts to what the state government's doing.
But we'll get to that, you know, in the coming
months and years, it's going to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Say we don't have one of those right now. Donald
and Neil hold On will bring it back and talking
about some of the elements involved in the state budget.
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Seven forty one here fifty five KR City Talk Station,
Happy Wednesday. Judge Nita Paul Tyner coming up in eight
thirty and Brandon Nixon will Insidia he is a Republican.
He also is running for since a City Council. The
meantime from Americans for Prosperity Donald and Neil walking through
some of the items in the budget which the Senate
released here in the state of Ohio. U Donovan, real quick,
I got to bounce off your head, just get your

(01:39:00):
initial reaction. We don't need to talk about it at length,
but I had Greg Lost and for the Buck aginste
talking about the proposal to amend the constitution to eliminate
the property tax and the complication, the myriad complications it
will arise if that, in fact happens. Has Americas for
Prosperity taken a position on that particular initiative, just real quick.

Speaker 12 (01:39:22):
We haven't taken an official position on it, but I
think what the folks who are advocating for that, I
think we were fellow travelers with that right. We are
taxed enough already. We need to do something about this.
As Greg and others will point out, and we sort
of recognize as well, it's not as simple as just
the limits property taxes. But what I think is important

(01:39:45):
in that, what that's doing, and the folks who have
who're circling with petitions and doing that work or doing
is it's raising the specter of this in Columbus.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
It is something that's.

Speaker 12 (01:39:53):
Talked about in all corners of tap Square, and you know,
folks want to see something happen here or else. I
think there's a very real reality that goes on the
ballot and who knows what happens after that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Oh my god, the work that they'll have to do
to unring or to deal with the aftermath of that
and how things are funded. It's just going to be
a nightmare scenario, that's what might. It makes me laugh
every time I think about it. Those guys haven't done
jack squat to address the problem, and now they're facing
I mean, it's like they're facing the end of a
gun here to their head with this initiative coming up

(01:40:26):
on the ballot. So anyhow, I'm sure you and I'll
have further discussions about that, but I know school funding
was something that's in the state budget. Talk about what
you saw in the Senate bill.

Speaker 12 (01:40:37):
Well, yeah, And it's interesting Hollywood, Washington, d C. And
State Capital are the only places where you know, fantasy
can become reality and it's fantasy here, really, Brian, is
school districts, school boards, the teachers' unions in particular complaining
about an increase and they're funding they're arguing, right that

(01:40:57):
they that what they thought they were going to get
was low than what they got and hence that's a cut.
Really is state of Ohio is spending more and more
on education every by aneum. It's a you know, from
both the state share. And then going back to property taxes.
The reason one of the major reasons our property taxes
are as high as they are is because the various

(01:41:18):
tactics and tools that the school boards across the state
use to sort of increase unvoted put unvoted tax increases
on property owners in the state.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
And so we want money to go to education.

Speaker 12 (01:41:30):
We think parents, families should be able to choose how
to spend those dollars. They're the ones best equipped to
keep the system accountable and honest and get the best
outcomes education.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
Seeing an increase in misbudget, that's a good thing.

Speaker 12 (01:41:43):
Some of the proposals by the Senate to increase performance
on that I think are what we really need.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Right. We hear folks like the vig Ramaswami talk about we.

Speaker 12 (01:41:50):
Need to get better outcomes in our station. I think
we're still a ways off from that that being done.
But you know, to your to our friends and family
who are in the education space, who are saying that
the world is crumbling and education is underfunded. In the state,
education is seeing an increase in funding in this budget,
maybe just not as much as our friends at the
Ohio Education Association the OEA Teachers Union would like it

(01:42:14):
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Well, this is something else that Greg Lawston for the
Buckantstitute brought up. You know, state dollars, like federal dollars,
come with strings attached. So if you're getting education dollars
from Columbus, they can require performance standards for example.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Right, that's right, Well, that's right. Well, and that's the other.

Speaker 12 (01:42:32):
Part of it, right is you talk again, This all
wines back to property taxes and the thirty nine hundred
plus political subdivisions that exist in the state, but specifically
on education. These folks want the money without the strings
right now. They want all the reward without any of
the risk or the accountability that comes with it. And
that's a problem we've in any time lawmakers begin to

(01:42:54):
kind of columbus push on that in a good way,
they get slapped back down. Because every one of these
school boards, right, six hundred school boards, each with what
five to seven members, Right, that's a couple thousand lobbyists
right there. Add in the teachers' unions and they're paid folks.
That's another couple thousand lobbyists descending on the state House.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
We need to push back.

Speaker 12 (01:43:16):
Against these folks harder and harder if we're going to
actually get the accountability and reform we deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
Exactly putting myself in a position of elected capacity, either
as a senator or a representative. You know, my response
to those people knocking on my door demanding more money
and no accountability, My dad sold phrase, I got two
words for you, and it ain't happy birthday. How come
these people are incapable of just saying no, get the
hell out of my office.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
Well, I think we.

Speaker 12 (01:43:40):
Begin to I think what we're seeing is a beginning,
that beginning in that cultural shift. Right, you have decades
of folks just being told yes. That when you begin
to tell them no, it you know, it's a shock,
it's a it's a it's a tectonic plate. Shift here, right,
And I think what we're beginning to see is that
shift what again, what I think it ultimately takes. And
this is where as an organization, we have a little

(01:44:02):
bit of a long view on a lot of this stuff, right,
So we look for these minor these these cultural shifts
where the cruise ship is turning, the big cruise ship
is turning. We've got the right books in the legislature
who are willing to say those things, to make those
to make those reforms, introduce those reforms, talk about those reforms.
I think in a lot of ways, what we really

(01:44:22):
need is as an executive who's going to also drive
that mandate.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Right Vay v. Bay Ramaswamy v. Vague rama Swamy. Looking
forward to the days when we have him in office,
when he'll embrace this stuff all day long. Donovan, I'm
gonna hold you over for one more segment because it
looks like we have some really good news on regulatory reform.
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Learning a bit of a little bit about what's in
the Senate proposed budget coming out just came out today,
Moving over to regulatory form. Donovan, this appears like a
good thing to me.

Speaker 12 (01:46:57):
Yeah, actually really excited to see that it's included in
this this final Conference Committee report that'll be voted on
later today with the floor of the House and the Senate.
We've been talking about the Rains Act before YEA, the
need to continue to strengthen regulatory reform. It appears got
to have the lawyers and the policy folks take a
take a look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
What the fine tooth compan It appears like many of the.

Speaker 12 (01:47:17):
Provisions with the Rains Act, as well as some strengthening
on what we call guidance I think called guidance documents
that agencies put out has been included in this budget.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
It's pretty interesting stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:47:29):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
And the proposed rule says that any any proposed rule,
these would be the regulations that come out from some unnamed,
unelected ficial in the back room, the cost taxpayers or
businesses over one hundred thousand dollars or have more than
one million dollars in overall economic impact. They got to
do a detailed cost analysis now for every rule, and
to the extent it has that economic impact at that

(01:47:52):
monetary level, it can be paused, it can be rejected,
or it goes to the full General Assembly for approval.
So the General Assembly ACTU has to vote on something
that's going to have that that that economic impact.

Speaker 12 (01:48:04):
Yeah, and that's that's incredibly transformational. That it is exact
kind of stuff we're talking about right where right now.
J CARD does a phenomenal job providing scrutiny to all
the rules and regulations that the executive agencies are putting out.
But what we've asked for, right and what the RAMS
acts does is it as an extra layer scrutiny to
those things, those items that you just pointed out there

(01:48:25):
by requiring go to the full General Assembly. Now there's
a couple of different pathways there. We want to make
sure that you know, there's not some sort of default
if the j CAR doesn't sort of keep its hand
on the steering wheel here, that the rule can just
go into place. But what it appears to do is
say that if if if it triggers or goes over
that one hundred thousand or one million dollars on economic

(01:48:48):
drag impact, that it goes to the General Assembly, and
it has to be the General asembly has to approve
that rule. That'd be transformational for the state of Ohio
and really begin to stop and stem the tide of
proliferation we're seeing in new rules occurring here in the
state of Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
One might argue that's probably the most important provision in
this budget proposal. They're going to vote on it today,
You say.

Speaker 12 (01:49:12):
Yeah, later this afternoon, they'll they'll be voting. Here's here's
another one I want to point out as well, that's
in there. So one of the things we found and
actually you mentioned the veak Ramswami he joined us for
a telephone town hall last week talking about these provisions
red Tape Production and Regulatory Reform and RAINS Act. There
are these nasty little things that are beginning to pop up.

(01:49:32):
So as agencies remove rules, do the two one in
two out type provisions cut by thirty percent, what they
do is they'll they'll go to the agency and say,
we cut all these rules. But then what they do
are these guidance documents, these sort of you know, secret
not so secret documents that they'll whip out whenever they

(01:49:53):
choose to sort of enforce things that that are those
rules that they said they got rid of, but just
in a different form that allows them to sort of
circumvent what they're supposed to do. In this language here,
they're going to actually begin to have a greater scrutiny
and make sure that j CAR will have the ability
to make sure that these executive agencies don't create these

(01:50:15):
rules in other obtuse ways, like through guidance documents. It's
a powerful sort of tool to reign in these bureaucrafts.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
A guidance document sounds like an advisory opinion kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
You know, they talked about them.

Speaker 12 (01:50:29):
These these things are just you know, they'll find any way, right,
the bureaucrats will find any way to do what they
do best.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
That doesn't sound like it has any teeth. I mean,
I'm going back to my dad's comment about I got
two words for you. It ain't happy birthday. Someone can
offer me a guidance opinion, I can say, you know what,
I'm going to go a different direction than your guidance
suggests I go. I mean, what ramifications could possibly come
about from that?

Speaker 12 (01:50:53):
Well, so just to be clear, this is what the
bureaucrats are doing. They're doing, and what the language is
trying to do is kind of snuff that out and
say no, no, no. When you said you got rid
of the rule or the regulation, you don't get to
bring that rule or regulation back through some other form
or function and bully businesses in the state of Ohio.

(01:51:13):
You you got rid of that rule, that rule does
not exist.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
You don't get to do it. You don't get a
bully businesses anymore. Bureaucrats.

Speaker 12 (01:51:20):
If you want to impose a new rule, you come
to us and say you want to do it in
the legislature. I prove or deny that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
I was just trying to understand how it practically works.
If the rule has been abolished, then you can offer
a guidance that goes by the way of the rule
that was abolished, and I can feel free to say,
go to hell, I'm not following it because it's no
longer a rule. But practically speaking, I guess you know
it goes on anyhow without a doubt.

Speaker 12 (01:51:43):
And the problem is, you can imagine, right, is it's
the business owner having to push back against you know,
the state EPE and the stated EPA's word, and that's
going to cost you time and money.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Even if you're a business who's in the right. That's
time and money.

Speaker 12 (01:51:55):
Let's just snuck that stuff out in the first places.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Don't have to deal with it stand the practical area
implications behind fighting this system. I'm just appreciative that at
least some people are in a position to fight the system.
Donovan and Neil Americans for prosperity. God bless you and
the work that you and the team do each and
every day on behalf of the Ohio Taxpayer. I'll look
forward to another conversation with you and hopefully more good
news like this regulatory form going through seven fifty six

(01:52:21):
fifty five cares of the talk station. Brandon Nixon, a Republican,
another one running for since City Council, is going to
be in the studio for the next segment, followed by
Judge Anapolitano, who's defending Massy and talking about the coming
state Police. That'll be an eight thirty stick around. You'll
be called the twelve Day War. I suppose that's what
we were nicknaming it already.

Speaker 12 (01:52:37):
Another updates at the top of the hour, the use
of military force.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Fifty five kr. See the talk station. It's just in
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Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Everything you need to know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Fifty five krs. The talk station A six and fifty
five car see the talks. A very happy Wednesday to you.
I like the man that's in my studio. Just got
a chance to meet Brandon Nixon. My friends in the
Cincinnai Greater Cincinnati Cincinnati area, those within the confines of

(01:53:12):
the City of Cincinnai. Resident's going to be voting on
a new mayor this fall. They voting on new council members,
and now they have an extra option Brandon Nixon, who's
in studio, and he I think has seen the light. Brandon,
it's been a pleasure talking with you off air, and
it's good to have you on the show this morning.
Thank you so much. Thanks for inviting me. Well, it's
a pleasure, man. I understand you are currently registered as

(01:53:34):
a Democrat, all right, Yes, and you have plans of
shifting party affiliation, yes, all right, but there's a window
to do that and you're not in that window. So
all right. People are going to say, well, he's a Democrat.
But as I asked you off air, and I suspected
I knew the answer to the question when I asked it,
you feel as though the Democrat party left you? Yes,
all right, and what specifically I mean You've had conversations

(01:53:56):
with Orlando Sanza, who I dearly love, and you've engage
with him, and what was this sort of moment where
you kind of saw the light. Number one.

Speaker 13 (01:54:05):
I think that they act like that the Republican Party
don't believe in black man. And I think that the
Republican Party is not divided. The Prebian Party got different
ways how they do it. And I think the dim
Party is brainwash. I think the Demin Party you got

(01:54:27):
to be a yes man or they pick favoritism of
the Democrat Party. If you're not in the first nine,
you're not gonna get no vote. And I think that
that's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Well, it is sad, and it's it's almost as though
there's a collective brainwash. You know, people don't see a
D after the name, then they just simply will not
vote for anybody. They don't look close enough at issues. Yeah, yes,
if they really focused on it and said, all right, well,
this is this issue, the way this particular official is
going to vote, what their platform stands for. Is it

(01:55:00):
going to be beneficial to me or not? And I
think Democrats love to claim that what they're trying to
do for you is going to help you when in
fact it really only helps them. Yes, what part of
town you live in? I live in Westwood. I understand
you were not an original Cincinnati native. All you made
the right choice of moving here. Go ahead, let him

(01:55:21):
know it's gonna have to come out some point. Yes,
I'm from a town called Oliria. It's about twenty minutes
from Cleveland and Go Browns. And I'm happy to be here.
I've been in six years. I'm happy to be here.
I live about myself. Before I moved down here, I was.
I used to live in Kenny Heights.

Speaker 13 (01:55:40):
I was on the Kenyon High Community Council for three
years and campaign for Orlando.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
Campaign for a lot of people.

Speaker 13 (01:55:47):
I met a lot of people, and at that time
I woke up and say, you know what, I'd like
the Republican Party. You know, they care about me. They
this is what I got to say. You know, I'm
not a yes man. They understand what I was coming from,
and I'm happy I'm making that decision.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Well, I think, at least in so far as the
overall platform, Republicans, I think are more about safety, roads, bridges, infrastructure,
and public safety. You know, if if government is going
to deliver on something. Let's keep that as the front
burner stuff what I see out of this mayor maybe
you can comment on it, Like things like connected communities.
You know, the zoning that they flat out blanketed all

(01:56:25):
neighborhoods with in the City of Cincinnati without any input
from the various neighborhoods or community councils. You will abide
by these zoning rules and then lo and behold. You
know Hyde Park, well connected developers show up to get
a waiver from Connected Communities and they're given that even
though the residents of Hyde Park don't want it. I mean,
what's your take on that kind of thing going on? No,

(01:56:48):
I hate community count I hate it. It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:56:53):
I look at them like bullies going to a neighborhood.
And I work with Hyde Park two against signatures too.
I did that help them out too, And I think
they need to take a just take it away. I
think that it's not right how you could just take
a neighborhood from somebody like bond Hill. They did bond Hill,

(01:57:13):
ye that, Yeah, they did different other neighborhoods like that.
I think that they need to take away stop changing
thing if it's not broken, No, don't mess with it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Right or you know, if it's not broken, don't fix it,
of course, but at least listen to what your constituents
ask are asking for and don't do the polar opposite
of it. I mean, that's a hard lesson they're learning
right now with this Hyde Park petition that's going to
be on the ballot. I mean, you know, the residents
I think are going to come out in large amounts
in the city and vote in favor of repealing the

(01:57:45):
waiver from the council. They're angry, yes, I mean they're
expecting it. Hey listen, you know there but for the
grace of God, go wif if they did it to
the Hyde Park, they did it to bond Hill, they
pretty much did it to all of us with connected communities.
I'm not going to have any more of this. I'm saying, no, No,
I ain't no too.

Speaker 13 (01:58:00):
And like I said, my platform is giving back, getting
back to the community, and that's my model because we
need to have a voice in city Hall and when
they have a voice in community Council, and we don't
have one right now because they worrying about making money,
worry about having billing apartments and that's not right. The

(01:58:22):
first thing you're to do the public safety, and you're
not doing that. We got potholes in here, we got
crime going around, and our mayor is taking pictures or
worry about national stuff. We didn't hire. We didn't vote
you in for national. We'll vote him for local. And
that that pissed me off. Yeah, I understand that. It's
what if Christopher Smith and former vice mayor, comes up

(01:58:42):
my program every week and we do it, he does
the smither vent, revents his spleen, and he is all
over that because they'll they'll vote on resolutions that involve
like Israel and Palestine or something like wait a second one.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
It has no impact at all. And why in the
hell you spinding your wheels and wasting time voting on
things over which you have zero road control. How about
fixing a damn road?

Speaker 7 (01:59:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:59:04):
And another thing is that it's like I know one
counsul man Tom about that community council is terrible. But no,
they don't understand that I wants community council for three years.
We do it voluntarily. We love our neighborhood. We tried
to do our best to help each neighbor But each
neighborhood is unique, unique, and it's a shame how they

(01:59:28):
don't respect us. And that's a big step in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
Well, who knows better than someone who lives in a
specific neighborhood than them? I mean, your problems in your neighborhood,
and maybe you can identify some problems that you feel
that have not been addressed by the city but are
completely different than whatever problems, if they have any in
Hyde Park Square. So do you feel like your community,
your your local neighborhood has been overlooked, left out, or

(01:59:53):
otherwise neglected by the City of Cincinnati. Yes, in what
particular ways. Number One is crime, crime, crime, crime is
a big thing. You got a lot of a company
in that one.

Speaker 13 (02:00:03):
Yeah, potholes Because I was I live off of my
Tana and mustain and the road was terrible. I had
to get my car, take pictures trying to get hit,
take a bit and put on Facebook and to hey,
you know that what we're going through. Every morning I
worked early in the morning, I had to dodge and
buy I'm playing foggy, you know, and then get my
tire fixed.

Speaker 6 (02:00:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
But it's ridiculous.

Speaker 13 (02:00:27):
I understand that you know funding everything, but just be real,
just worry about our public safety and worrying about going on,
worrying about the White House.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
I'm with you all day long on that talk with
Brandon Nixon. You can find him on Facebook. He doesn't
even have a campaign web page. We'll be looking for
that down the road a little bit. But if you
go to Facebook elect Brandon Nixon for Cincinna City Council,
you can get some information about the man who I'm
talking with in studio today. And we're gonna take a
pause right now, Brandon, we'll bring it back. I want
to talk to you specifically about crime and some other

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Speaker 12 (02:02:41):
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Operative word could seventy nine degrees Right now, Time for
a traffick up date. Chuck Ingram from the uc.

Speaker 1 (02:03:34):
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Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
It's a twenty fifty five ker City talk station. Enjoying
my conversation with Brandon Nixon. Find Out on Facebook elect
Brandon Nixon for since a city council. He is a
reform Democrat. He will become a member of the Republican
Party when the window opens up, but he's already I
learned over the break and props to you. You know,
the right people went through a whole bunch of names.
You're friends with west Side Jim the kingmaker on the

(02:04:30):
west Side, and you're also remember the west Side Republican Party.
Of course, that's where you see Jim. I mentioned Pryce
sil Chile. That's how we went down that road because
he mentioned Montana Avenue. I said, did you ever have
to drive on Sunset? My listeners know? Oh man, I
constantly complained about that. It's like a road out of
Gaza or something. When are they ever going to fix that?
One will be that money? Well you okang. Moving over

(02:04:54):
to crime, I thought it was an amazing revelation after
the last couple of years, the mayor and council and
the police department telling us over and over again crime
in the city is down. Oh look, I have to
have pro ball, police Chief, Threat Strategic and several other
city leaders did acknowledge that in fact, yes, crime is
actually up, particularly over the rhine. Boy, it's jumped up.
We've got more murders now at this time than we

(02:05:15):
did last year, a lot of property crimes, car thefts,
it's all going on. That's a real problem problem in
your neighborhood too. I guess, yes, what do you I mean?
You said you had an interesting story along these lines.
Let's talk about that and then we have what your
ideas are. Okay.

Speaker 13 (02:05:31):
The story was I wrote a paragraph about crime and
to the mirror, and I have somebody call me and
told me that I was a dis I was wrong
for dissing the mayor out like that in puppic And
I was like, well, I got freedom of speech.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
I got the right because I pay. I'm a text player.
I pay.

Speaker 13 (02:05:55):
But that person told me that I was wrong and
I need to stop doing it. And at that time
was at work, and I told him. I was like, well,
you can't stop me because that now I thought. I'm
happy because now y'all seeing you know, I feel special
now because y'all listen.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm happy about that. Well, that's
actually kind of refreshing that you brought them out to
challenge you. What was the subject matter if I can
ask me what were you complaining about. I would just
complain about the crime period.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:06:27):
And it's sad because you see a lot of African
American youth is dying.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
Oh it's terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:06:34):
And you see a lot of elders tell me walking
around they're afraid to go outside because they want that
they don't want to get jumped. You see, you can't
go to OTR because you got a group of teenagers
are going to start jumping people. Like I said, I
got a seventy year old son and I'm afraid for
him to go to TAFF because the jump. Then you
see a gentleman that pass away. You got murdered. I'm sorry,

(02:06:57):
I got murdered at its own place. Yes, and that's sad.
Want that to say that the police can be everywhere, right,
but I think you stop lying to us. Stop saying
that crime is down. A crime is not down. Don't
lie to it. Just tell them the truth and to
try to find something to fix it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
Well, you know, one of the things I think is lacking,
particularly into the Purvole administration. Okay, they'll pay lip service
to the police every once in a while, but they
don't seem to be actively involved in supporting them, talking
about the police as a positive thing for neighborhoods. The
idea of law enforcement being there and being present, it's
not a bad thing, it's a good thing. Neighborhoods. You

(02:07:36):
should embrace the police. Police, embrace the neighborhoods, work cooperatively
together in your neighborhood. Do you get the sense that
people do not like the police, or that they think
the police are outright evil force that shouldn't be around. Yes,
you have that, that's the impression. Yes, Oh that's a shame.

Speaker 13 (02:07:51):
Yes, because my car got broken into at that time
the Kia boys and it took the police about hour
and a half to come out.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
Well, that's lack of police officers. Yes, I mean they're
too busy going after the murderers and the gangs of
roving teenagers out there. They don't have time for a
property theft, right, right. But I mean, but does that
can come pret And I mean if there were more
police around and they showed up quicker, that will be
a good thing, right, Yes, Okay, kind of That's where
I'm going to in terms of the attitude. Yes, people
want more police presence to keep their neighborhood safer and

(02:08:25):
address the nine one one calls. Yes, right, okay, Now
we got that cleared up as little for I mean,
because there's there seemed to be, at least within the
black community, this attitude that police are all racist, there's
nothing but an evil force. I don't want them around,
and I can find that hard to believe. Police provide
some measure of safety and protection for a community. Yes,
and I do support the blue too good and that's

(02:08:48):
a good thing, particularly in these trying times. Well, I'll
tell you what, Brandon, it's been great talking with you,
a pleasure to introduce you to my listening audience, and
I'm sure maybe you and I will have more conversations
between now and the fall. I wish you the best
of luck on your campaign and get out there and
mix it up with folks, get them talking. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
I appreciate everything you did.

Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
It's my pleasure. Folks. Stick around. It is Wednesday, which
means Judge Anon Apolatanos coming up next defending Congress from Massy.
Yes he is, and that's not unexpected, but also the
coming state Police judge to Polatano up.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
Next fifty five KRC. Here's the West.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Time for the channel Line first one and Wether forecast Jody.
Mostly Sunday day to day, turning partly fidy with a
chance of storms. Best opportunity for that, they're saying between
one and eight pm APM is the end of the
heat advisory and effect. Ninety three are high today with
a heat index north of one hundred overnight down to
seventy four, just a slight chance of rain pop up
afternoon storms tomorrow kind of like today ninety two for

(02:09:49):
the high overnight muggy and seventy four and a high
of ninety four on Friday again with a chance of
afternoon storms up to eighty. Right now, I'm time for
a traffic update. Chuck in from the US Traffic You.

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Expect more at uc help dot com. A bit of
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to the closure between two seventy five and seventy five northbound.
Seventy five are wrecked, Dear Gabrith southbound an accident near Tylersville. Look,
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or air conditioning, and listen to the judge. He's next,
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Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
Block air CD talk station, A very happy Wednesday. It's like,
I hate to say it out loud for fear of
things tanking on us, but it looks like our systems
are actually working today. I can see Judge Ennapolitano. Welcome back, sir.
One of my favorite times of the week having you
on my program. It's good to have you back.

Speaker 14 (02:11:14):
Thank you, Thank you very much, Brian. And why why
did Ingram have to mention the Yankees at a time
like this.

Speaker 2 (02:11:23):
I was actually watching the game yesterday my wife.

Speaker 14 (02:11:26):
Not exactly in a hot streak, and we know who
they're playing this week. I want to thank your producer
Joe Strecker and mine Chris Leonard for fixing the issue
that caused me to kept getting bounced off last week.
But you're in good company. I was being interviewed by
the Foreign Ministry of Russia and kept getting bounced off.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
Oh no, oh, no, let's go.

Speaker 14 (02:11:52):
I'm in New York. There in Moscow and we had
to go to my iPhone.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
But all is well here.

Speaker 14 (02:11:57):
Well, it's not well in Washington, where the president thinks
he can start any war without a congressional declaration and
then drive from office one of the few people who
understands and defends the Constitution, in this case, the premiere
defender of the Constitution, Congressman Thomas Massey. And all is

(02:12:19):
not well when the president dispatches police wearing masks to
arrest people without search warrants or arrest warrants and claims
that somehow that is consistent with the Constitution. Hence my
piece this week, the Coming police State.

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
Yes, the coming police State. We'll get to that just
a moment. On the attacks on Massy, I was similarly.
I found it rather preposterous and ridiculous. You know, when
you elect someone, they're not going to be one hundred
percent lockstep in line with what you believe each and
every time. But he is a staunch defender of the
supreme law of the land, a document that Donald Trump

(02:12:56):
and every other member of elected capacity has sworn an
oath to uphold. And I know there are different thoughts
and opinions about that, but you know, and I've had
to sort of defend Massy as well as defend Trump
and kind of do this balancing act since the bombs dropped,
and the balancing acts brought about by things that you
and I've talked about, like, for example, authorizations for use

(02:13:18):
of military force as well as the War Powers Act
in nineteen seventy three, two things that fly in the
face of the delegation of powers within the Constitution and
things in which not have been tested in court to
see if they are on constitutionally firm grounds. So you
have people arguing that he can react. He has sixty
day window where he can pretty much damme do anything

(02:13:39):
he wants as commander in chief. That's what the Warpowers
Act sss. But that's a delegation of power that Congress holds.
Correct rrec correct.

Speaker 14 (02:13:47):
This is Massi's argument that the War Power is resolution,
which was vetoed by President Nixon, not because it passed
along to the presidency too much power. But yet Nixon
was on the other extreme of this. Remember Nixon said
once in his interview with David Frost after he left office,
if the president does it, that means it's not illegal. Translation,

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the president do whatever he wants. Nixon thought the War
Powers Resolution krimped his style rather than gave to the
president the powers that the Congress has. Congressman Massey's argument
is twofold one. The War Powers Resolution is unconstitutional because
the power to declare war is a core function of Congress.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
What is a core function.

Speaker 14 (02:14:32):
One that has articulated in the Constitution, and the Supreme
Court has ruled many times core functions cannot be transferred
from one branch to the other. That's argument number one.
Argument number two, Even if the War Powers Resolution it's
a law, it's an act, but its official title is
the word resolution.

Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
I don't know why.

Speaker 14 (02:14:53):
Even if the War Powers Resolution is constitutional, there's a
condition in there. The president can only fight these wars,
drop these bombs, attack where every once for sixty days.
If there's an imminent threat to American national security. What
imminent threat did Iran pose to the national security of

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the United States. When American Intel says they didn't have
and weren't developing and haven't been working.

Speaker 2 (02:15:23):
On a bomb since two thousand and two, well we
can all ask the same thing. I mean, I mean,
obviously eras before the War Powers Resolution, what imminent threat
to North Korea or Kosovo or Libya or Vietnam or
any other conflicts we've been in over the past multiple decades,
none of which represented a threaty the American people, But
we ended up in long term, embroiled conflict with those

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countries and lost lots of lots of life.

Speaker 14 (02:15:50):
My stomach was turned yesterday and by a piece in
the Washington Post op ed because it was written by
three well expected law professors whom I know. Their argument
is an interesting one, but it's constitutional nonsense. Their argument is, Okay,
we haven't declared war since December eighth, nineteen forty one.

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Actually there was a subsequent declaration of war a little
bit later, but it was for World War Two, and
we fought thirty six wars in the interim. Because Congress
didn't challenge those wars, it actually enabled the president constitutionally
to declare them. That is absolute hogwashed. But that's their argument.

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Their argument is that a regular, consistent, systematic pattern violating
the Constitution somehow magically makes that violation constitutional when it's unchecked, unstopped,
and accepted. I have read so that were the case.
If that were the case, you could change anything in
the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (02:16:58):
It's like remember open notaria, hostile underclaim of right. He
just declared it's yours, and you squad on it and
you keep waving it around. Finally it becomes yours. Well,
this is like they're acting in reliance on nobody's follow
through with accountability for prior acts that are unconstitution Now
here's a great question though. They obviously were going to

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try to impeach Trump on this, even though they let
it slide when it came to Reagan and Bush and
Obama and Biden and everybody else who's played fast and
loose with the declarations of war and drop bombs and
regions that represented a threat to our nation. So this
time they plan on going through an impeachment process. Obviously
that got shot down yesterday with an overwhelming supported Democrats.

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They don't want to touch this with a ten foot poll.

Speaker 14 (02:17:42):
And impeachment in this environment is absurd. Let me point
out something else. This is how smart Congressman Thomas Massey,
who's an engineer and mit top of his class engineer,
not a lawyer or a constitutional scholar, although he knows
more about the Constitution than these three that wrote this
nonsense in the Washington Post and are high paid professors

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at eminent law schools. When Barack Obama bombed Libya at
Missus Clinton, then his secretary of State, at Missus Clinton's assistance,
remember she said, came, we bombed, he died, hahaha, as
if that's something to laugh about. In order to avoid
the constitutional issues, he did not use the military. He

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used the CIA. They were dressed in uniforms, They flew planes,
they dropped bombs, they shot missiles, but they were not
the United States military. The War Powers Resolution only requires
reporting and eventual approval. If he used the military, why
because in nineteen seventy three it was unthinkable that the
CIA would have its own army. Today it does. Barack

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Obama used it. He didn't give any notification. He made
an announcement from Brazil, which is where he was while
Congress was on spring break. We just destroyed the Libyan government.
Never use the American military. So my argument is these people, Obama, Bush, Biden, Trump,

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they all took the same oath I did when I
became a judge. Excuse me, preserve, protect, and defend the
Constitution as it's written, not as you want it to be.
They all find ways around it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:31):
Is that what we voted for?

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
Well it's not what I voted for, of course, But see,
Congress doesn't want to do its job. It does not
want the responsibility of having the heavy load of an
actual consideration of war. And it's unlikely that these that
you could hurt enough cats to get get to engage
the military, which obviously in these you know, everybody's looking
for expedients rather than actual you know, a faith in

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the law and the Constitution. It's easier for them to
just let it go. And since we have a history
of them letting it go, it's its status quo. I mean, look,
and I wanted to get to the question, what would
be the how could you hold a president in account
if everyone was in accord that this exceeded the presidential authority?
Is impeachment? The route that you go you've done something,

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is that represent a high crime and misdemeanor to deploy
military forces or in Obama's case, the CIA, to get
the dirty work done.

Speaker 14 (02:20:23):
Well, he spent one hundred million dollars. He bombed tunnels
that were empty. He didn't set back the nuclear program
at all. The nuclear program was lawful, authorized by the
IAEA and the Non Proliferation Treaty, which the United States
has signed and Israel is not. It was inspected and

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improved by the UN. Could you imagine if somebody did
that to us, if somebody attacked one of our nuclear
reactors because they didn't want us to have a nuclear weapon,
even though we've signed the Non Proliferation Treaty. Thomas Massey
I think the rest of the Congress is afraid of
him because he points out how they don't do their job.
Because they like Donald Trump, they will just overlook these things,

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or because they're lazy, they will overlook these things. When
Obama bombed Lib you at that very moment, I was
on air interviewing the late Great Harlem Congressman Charles Wrangle,
who sounded like this, and I said, Congressman Wrangle, why
did the Congress look the other way? Without imitating his voice,

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they'll say, well, it's very easy if it's a success,
will applaud them. If it's a failure, it's his failure. Well,
that is a rejection of your obligation under the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (02:21:39):
So what's the follow through? Then go back to my
question if you know there.

Speaker 1 (02:21:43):
Is no follow through.

Speaker 14 (02:21:44):
If Congressman Massey were to bring a lawsuit before a
federal judge to enjoin Trump from violating the Constitution, the
federal judge will say, this is a political question. Yes,
this is not something we can resolve. You have to
enact more time, You have to elect more time. Us
Massis to the Congress are elected Thomas Massey like person
to the White House. This is not a justitiable issue.

Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
So we're stuck with it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:09):
So one of the mechanisms, though I suppose the only ones,
since they had the power of the person, will be
to cut off funding. But that would require cutting off
all funding to the American military. Otherwise you play fast
and loose with the pile of money that's handed over
the American military to keep it running, right, I mean,
there is you can.

Speaker 14 (02:22:24):
You can because the president doesn't have a line item veto,
he'd have to veto the entire budget, So you can
put in there none of these funds shall be used
for and list a bunch of things, but be very
difficult to enforce that, very very difficult. You're talking about
a budget of a trillion dollars. The Pentagon hasn't passed

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in audit in the past twenty years, and nobody knows
where the money goes.

Speaker 2 (02:22:50):
Well, I suppose that for this long circuitous defense of
congressom Massy and the Constitution, we find ourselves at a
rather interesting point here, Judgeph Palatano, which which is it
sounds like there's not a damn thing any of us
can do about it.

Speaker 14 (02:23:05):
Well, a lot of this will change if the Democrat
I'm not suggesting this is a good thing, because there's
a down a tremendous downside to this. If the Democrats
take either House of Congress, that will at least keep
Donald Trump's feet to the fire. He didn't even give
war powers resolution notice to the Gang of Eight, which

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he's required by law to do. The Gang of Eight
is which is.

Speaker 1 (02:23:35):
Also in constitution.

Speaker 14 (02:23:37):
Congress within a Congress, a constitution doesn't authorize that. But
they are the ranking the chair and the ranking members
of the two intelligence committees, and the Republican and Democrat
leaders in both houses. He didn't even give them notice
that constitution, because when he gives them notice, he does
so under the veil of secrecy. So they can't tell anybody.

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They can't tell their spouses, they can't tell the press,
they can't tell other members of Congress, they can't tell
their constituents. What the hell kind of a democracy is that?

Speaker 2 (02:24:07):
Well, I guess it was widely reported to give they've
noticed to Congress after the bombing, which is within forty
eight hours under the War Powers Resolution. So I had
read pretty much everywhere that that actually that he followed
through on that, unlike some prior presidents who didn't even
bother along those lines, consider Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
and Barack Obama with the CIA. So anyhow, again, I

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think we just found ourselves sort of reaching this conclusion
that he is free to do what the hell he wants,
just like all the other presidents before him have done.

Speaker 14 (02:24:41):
And then watch for him to start warning about Iranian
and Mexican sleeper cells and about the need for the
FEDS to know everything we're thinking and saying in order
to root out the sleeper cells. Going back to your
depression of civil liberties keep us safe? Absolutely not. Who
will keep us safe from the people doing the suppressing?

Speaker 2 (02:25:03):
Yeah? Well, and one might argue that nobody knows that
better than Donald Trump considered he was the focus of
many lettered agencies nefarious activities under his first term. Oh,
Judge Napolitano, always a pleasure going through these fun topics
with you.

Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
It's pace.

Speaker 14 (02:25:18):
We get to see each other this week.

Speaker 2 (02:25:20):
Yeah, yeah, that makes it great. Well, who are you
talking to today, judging freedom?

Speaker 14 (02:25:28):
I have the great Max Bloomenthal. I have Professor Glenn Deeson.
I have Ambassador Craig Murray. I have Phil Giraldi, the
CIA agent who told George Bush Saddam Hussein does not
have weapons of mass destruction. Bush threw him out of
the Oval Office, announced to the country that Saddam Hussein
did have them, and GERALDI resigned. And a bright bright

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intellectual PhD and political philosophy and retired Lieutenant Colonel Karen
Quadkowski writes great things for Judge.

Speaker 2 (02:25:56):
Nap dot com.

Speaker 14 (02:25:57):
So I have a busy day coming out on Sunday.
I had Scott Ritter on on a special show because
of the bombing that occurred on Saturday night. So far
seven hundred and seventy five thousand news. That's great, and
the numbers keep going up in my in my world,

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those are over the top numbers.

Speaker 2 (02:26:20):
Well way over the top of mine. I have no idea,
but I did find out yesterday that I have listeners
in Nigeria, believe it or not, and that just tickled
me to death. Judge Jeneena Polatana, every Wednesday here we
have the blessing at eight thirty to talk with him,
get his insights, thoughts and opinions. I appreciate your time
and this time. You spoke my listeners each and every
week and I hope you have a wonderful week and
until next month you.

Speaker 14 (02:26:39):
And Joe Strecker, thank you for your helping getting us
set up today. And remember I want to be on
with Congressman Massey one of these days soon.

Speaker 2 (02:26:45):
You got it, man. All we need to do is
work out the logistics, but that can be done. Take
care of my friend, best guys.

Speaker 1 (02:26:51):
Thank you to you.

Speaker 2 (02:26:52):
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Speaker 2 (02:27:02):
Happy Wednesday, Joe Mels, So you're gonna get some emails
about Napolitano and his positions, said, I always get emails
on that kind of stuff. But isn't it an interesting
that we really preach that that there's nothing that can
be done about this, something the president's been doing now
for the past like ten administrations. Be SEMy, what about
the constitution? And agree with Judge of Platano and Congress

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m Messy or not on the broader point. But in
the final analysis, nothing could be done. And if you
think impeachment's the right way to go, look, even the
Democrats weren't interested in trying to go to the impeachment road.
Yesterday they've voted overwhelmingly to shoot down the notion of it.
The only seventy nine people voted in favor of advancing

(02:27:45):
the impeachment articles. So nothing can be done. I read
this morning there's a Harvard law professor Jack Goldsmith, one
of the you know lawyer eggheads at Donald Trump or
that Judge Balatana was mentioning this isn't the one he
was specifically talking about, but he said a lot of

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people over the next few weeks are going to argue
with confidence that President Trump violated or didn't violate the
Constitution when he bombed ran over the weekend without congressional authorization.
He says this again, a Harvard law professor. You, I
think the Constitution would provide a clear answer to such
a momentous question, But it doesn't, he said. You think
I know the answer. I have a case book that

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covers the issue. I've written about it for decades. I
served in the Office of Legal Counsel, that is the
storehouse of executive branch legal opinions on the topic, one
of which has my name on it. But I don't
know the answer. I don't know the answer because I
don't think there's anything approaching a settled or clear normative
framework for analysis. And he went so on. I mean

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talked about over the centuries, you know, standing military forces
and a larger scale, and the growth of presidential power,
unilateral uses of force, very consequential seventy last seventy five years,
North Korea nineteen fifty, Panama in eighty nine, Coastavo ninety nine,
Libyan twenty eleven, Solamani that execution in twenty twenty. Many

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of Congress complained in response to many uses of force,
Congress exercise it's only constitutional authority to shut them down
only a handful of times Vietnam nineteen seventy three and
Somalia nineteen ninety three. Congress also tried but failed to
slow presidential war unilateralism in the Swiss Cheese War Powers
Resolution that does not constrain a president in the first

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sixty days of hostilities. For the most part of Congress
as an institution has gone along with presidential war aggrandizement,
and given the long term precedence that's been said. Okay,
let's say you and I believe that it doesn't have
that power, and I know many of my listening audience
believe he does, as demonstrated by all the other presidents
have gone down this road and gotten away with it

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or otherwise weren't held accountable or otherwise applauded for duing.
Going back to the Charlie wrangle, we all take credit
if it's a win, and it's your fault if it's not.
But that doesn't go beyond anything except criticism. But anything
that can be done be done. After the bombing starts, right,

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you'd have to know in advance, be able to read
the future, to know that he's planning on dropping a
bomb in any given moment. I mean, we all thought
there was going to be a two week window when
the Iranians could come to the table, sit down and
negotiate peace. Well I didn't wait around for that, So
then you got to go in and then pass the
resolution or a condemnation or a proclamation or an authorization

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or a lack thereof. It's the genies out of the
bottle by that time. So maybe it's frustrating to you.
I guess it's frustrating to me that we don't have
a clear defined path. But at least one thing is
to take away from the conversation with Joseph there is
no accountability regardless of who's sitting in office. Eight fifty

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