Americans For Prosperity- REINS/HB11

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Station Sive KC the talk station. Always welcome Donovan and
Neil from Americans for Prospered in the fifty five KRECY
Morning Show, doing right by these citizens of the state
of Ohio. Afpaction dot Com. I think is the website
we're going to recommend. Donovan will tell us one way
or another, the Donovan welcome back to talk about the
Rains Act.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Brian, happy to be here with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So is this a state act?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean we're talking about Ohio Rains Act because I
know Congress from Massy's talking about the Rains Act.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Least I believe it was Massy. On a federal level.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, this is legislation that really there's no hyperbole here
at sweeping the nation. States across all fifty states are
introducing variations of this. It did originate and it's still
active legislation in Congress. We need to get it done, Yes,
send it to the President's desk. But you know, on
the federal level, we got we got to clear out

(01:47):
the economic the regulatory sludge and our economic engine. But
we've got the same problems here in the states. And
that's what the Rains Act House Bill eleven would do
here in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, and let's acknowledge there has to be a state
ranks independent from hopefully we get the Federal Rains Act,
because there are state regulatory entities that wouldn't be impacted
by a Federal Rains Act.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Correct. Correct, it's just a few years ago here in Ohio.
Just to put in a perspective, because we're a red state,
right we vote for Trump consistently, we've got to Republican
senators with Republican super majority in Columbus or not. Well,
I'll show to talk about that at the time the

(02:29):
believe it or not. Just a few short years ago,
the Mercadis Center put out a report on the regulatory burden,
the index and inventory all of the regulations in all
the states here and Ohio. Guess where we ranked, Brian,
guess where we ranked.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm a little afraid to guess. Probably somewhere near the bottom.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Somewhere near the bottom. The only states worse than us
were New York, California, and Illinois. New York, California, Illinois, Ohio,
Oh my, or among the worst. So we you know,
if you don't pay attention to these things, this stuff
can get real bad, real quick. Even when you've got
you know, conservatives are so called conservatives mining the Henhouse

(03:12):
and Rain's Act. It puts a puts a restrainer, reins
in those executive executive overreach that can cause these kinds
of things to happen and get us pretty close to
California and things we don't want to be close to them.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
In no, not at all, And it just shocks my
mind that we are right behind those unbelievably left wing states.
Now to people right now, Donovan and Neil for Americans
for a Prosperity scratching the head going, you're talking about
Rains Act. You haven't explained what it's going to do
for us, which we will dive into after these brief words.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So hang in there.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Donovan will be right back to give us some details
on what the Rains Act will accomplish here in Ohio.
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Speaker 1 (05:35):
Seventh thirty nine Here fifty five KRCDE talks Station Bryan.
Time to see with Donald and Neil for Americans for
Prosperity on something that could be profound in terms of
the direction of government control over our lives and the
regulatory nightmare that is behind the scenes unelected officials creating
basically laws behind the scenes predicated on loosely written legislation

(05:58):
that gets passed and they chuck the legislation over to
the regulatory agencies to start churning out regulations, many of
which have a profound financial impact on society. That's where
the Rains Act comes in. Donovan and Neil regulations from
the executive in need of scrutiny. Long form version of
Rains Act. What does this do for us? Or what

(06:20):
will this do for us in the state of Ohio
for successful in getting it passed?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, great question? And what what this does? So there's
a lot of different ways you can do reg reform, right,
you can cut the red tape. You could say you
can't add more red tape. But you know, even when
you say that, there's still the calls or the outcry
for some form of regulation. Right, the bureaucrats are going
to do what they do best, the bureaucrats. And what

(06:44):
the Rains Act does is, at a very simple level,
what it does is two things. One, it requires legislative approval,
so no more long gone would be the days of
a of an executive agency overreaching its authority has on
Mosk and Donald Trump have called it. Right, this this
fourth unconstitutional arm of government that's erupted. The legislature would

(07:07):
have authority over approving any major rules that would come
out of an executive agency. But then what I think
is most important in the greatest feature of this after
legislative authority, is it would require the bureaucrats to put
together an economic impact. So if we're going to put

(07:27):
a drive on the economy that would come out of
a rule or regulation purportedly for a public safety purpose, Right,
that's why they claim to create these rules, is for
public safety, we're going to have to They're going to
have to indicate what the economic impact of those rules
would be. Ah, it's like an environmental or standing like an.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Environmental assessment, right, I mean sometimes you have the environmental
assessment before any project goes through to make sure it's
not gonna be harmful to some fish or moth or
bat or something. In this particular case, they have to
do an economic analysis to find out how how much
money it's going to cost the population for the regulations
that are being rolled out.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Instead of just worrying about the moths, the baps, and
the worms, we're gonna actually worry about humans and the
economic impact rules may have on the livelihoods of humans
living here in the United States.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
What a concept? What is Okay?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Now there has to be a colon Okay, So let's use,
for example, some like the EPA regulating and according to
the legislation that was passed out of Congress regulating navigable waters,
which then the regulatory body then decides, is a tablespoon
of water on your private property that has a massive
economic impact, and of course that would have to be
reviewed for its economic impact, and then under a rainzac concept,

(08:43):
if it's over a certain amount, then the actual legislative
branch Congress would have to pass approval of that specific
tablespoon of water regulation.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Correct, Because the idea is going back to the legislature
on these most egregious rules and saying, was this your
intent when you sent up this authority? Exactly? And it is,
they can approve it. And if they say, whoa, we
did not foresee somebody being this creative and finding ways
to control people's lives, No, you cannot do that. That's
what the legislature would be able to do.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Now, all right, this legislative Economic Analysis unit, this this
panel that will look into the economic impact and do
this economic analysis? What is the monetary cutoff? What what
allows that like over x amount? Then you've got to
get legislative approval. What is the amount.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, it varies by different state, you know, state to state.
You know, for instance, in Wisconsin, it's any rule over
ten million. Here in Ohio, the current proposal would say
anything over a million dollars in economic impact, Wow, it
has to be evaluated. And what you see by virtue
of that might say, wow, that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It doesn't what No, I mean that it's a lower
bar than the ten million dollars from some other state.
I mean, I say a million that that that's it's
easy to reach a million dollars much anything these days.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Donovan. Sure, Well, what we want to balance in this
public policy is making sure that the most egregious rules
get reviewed and this doesn't become a rubber stamp process.
Here in Ohio, we already have what's called j CAR.
It's the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review. They they
see a lot of these any rule that gets implemented

(10:21):
here in the state of Ohio or desire to be implemented,
j CAR reviews it. So there's already a stopgap. What
Rains would do is add that economic factor and force
it to go to not just the smaller committee of
j CAR, which does a great job, but the full
legislative body. You can imagine it's easy to maybe get
a few folks to agree to something. It's a lot
harder to get one hundred and thirty two individuals degree

(10:43):
on something exactly. That's a lot more eyes, that's a
lot more people. And as Representative Ron Ferguson and Brian
Lorenz pointed out in the committee testimony early this week,
j CAR doesn't represent all of Ohio. It's the members
you know who are on that committee. Those legislature at
large represents all of Ohio, and so folks in southwest
Ohio they have different thoughts about a particular rule. In
folks in northeast Ohio, we want more input rather than

(11:06):
last when it comes to a million dollars of the
economic drag being considered here in the state.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Donald, I hate to put you on the spot, but
I see that this act as it's written for the
state of Ohio, and I'm all in favor of this.
It empowers courts to review whether agency rules have been
authorized by the legislature and determine whether the rule has
been classified correctly as a major rule requiring legislative approval.
So some rule gets passed and it's over some certain

(11:32):
threshold of money here a million dollars, and if they
don't act and they don't specifically approve it, the courts
can come in and say, hey, you've got to specifically
approve this or the rule does not apply. Who has
standing to bring that action in court?

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah? I think what you would these were crafted in
different ways in different states, right. I think the way
we would want to look at it would be somebody
who is going to be, you know, a party that's impacted, right,
a manufacturer in the state of Ohio, to be able
to say, to be able to bring that and all
that is, I think as well, is really just rebalancing
what's broken right now, where the bureaucrats, this fourth unelected

(12:11):
bureauc branch of government has taken control and taken taking
things hostage. It should be the you know, legislature creates
the laws, the executive executes them, and the judiciary reviews
them for constitutionality. This would allow the legislature to have
a little re reign in the executive and retain some

(12:32):
of its original authority of saying, hey, no, you're going
too far, mister and missus governor. We need to we
need to reign in here.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
They actually have to do their job is an interesting concept.
Donald O'Neil, I can only pray that this gets an
acted in the state of Ohio. What do we the
listeners of What can I do specifically to push this forward?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, we need folks to go to Buckeye Blueprint dot com.
Buckeye Blueprint dot com. That's our website for Boulder Better
Buckeye State or post an action alerts there almost every
week now that the legislature's in session here in Ohio
and go there. If you want to go to the
newsroom section you can read more about it, but ultimately
reach out to your state representative and encourage them to
support HB eleven, Ohio's.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Rains Act HB eleven. Please Buckeye Blueprint dot com. I
will say my prayers in favor of this one. Donovan
and Neil, Thank you for bringing it to my listeners
and my attention. I appreciate all the work that you
and Americans for Prosperity to do each and every day,
and I again will strongly encourage my listeners to get
in touch and get active, and I mean you make

(13:34):
it so easy for them to do that. Take care Donovaniel.
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