Brian chats with Ron Wilson 5/17/2024

Episode Transcript

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Hey thirty three on a Friday,Spring and fall on the fifty five K
Morning Show, Fake Parsee morning show. That means one thing, and I
love that one thing. That's RonWilson and studio to talk gardening as we
wind things down on a Friday andlighten things up. Welcome back, my
friend. It's always a pleasure hadyou on last Saturday. I came downstairs,
I got up a little earlier thanI normally do, and of course
that Paul Ittt had you on.I was trying to ease back into getting

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up. You know, Oh youwere off Monday Tuesday. Yeah, oh
you had four dare Oh okay.I can't think I'd like to sleep in
when I'm off, But you know, if I sleep in like un till
night, I can't do that.My sleep in at six o'clock when the
mic goes on. But I'm sayingin general, my sleep in is I
can't go past that. Oh okay, I see, I don't care what

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the situation is. I'm usually armclock never goes off on Saturday morning.
Yeah, normally it's like, uhgoes off because I never had one two
thirty week days and then usually onSaturdays, I will comfortably stay in bed
until like eight. Most of thetime I'll wake up, but I'll just
like, oh my god, I'moff today and I can't roll right back

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over and cover up. Oh thebed feels so good? Can I do
that? No, I was going, by the way, I just want
to let you know what this thisstudio was designed so that all these microphones
can be at one point, allsix feet apart. It's serious, are
you so that we all look atus right now? We got our six

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foot distancing going on here. Sojust so yeah, just so you know,
you know, know that that's whatwas worked into the design of this
as well. Great, I'm surethat the future it cost. It cost
my heart probably extra money to dothat. During that well, actually,
you know what, right after thesestudios open is when the COVID thing hit.
There was nobody in here, noone. It was pretty interesting.

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They never fill this place. It'sa it's a it's an empty do people
occasionally they do? Let's stop rightnow, it's already it's a thirty five.
It's okay. I always like pushingone of your buttons. I know,
I fully appreciate that. My pleasurework in the garden sign a true
friendship when you do that, becauseI always tell my friends, you know,
but if I stop, you know, busting your juebos, then you

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got a problem on you know.Sums up? Amen, brother Hey,
forty fifty five K City Talk StationBrian Thomas with Ron Wilson. Every Saturday,
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I was just telling you we weretalking off there, and I had
mentioned it several times this morning,and I think it's a great idea if

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you want to get out in thewoods, enjoy the forest bathing, and
also help our local community. Theand the and Hamilton County Parks. They're
looking for volunteers to get rid ofthat thin can honeysuckles. It's an ever
ending thing. They're not going toget rid of all of it, but
it's as much as they can reduceit and suppress it and do everything they
can. And it's a lot totackle, and so they're looking they're always
looking for volunteers to help do that. And they'll put organized groups together and

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go out and clear out an areaas best you can, and you know,
hopefully keep it cleared out. That'sthe important thing. Once they do
clear it out. Well, thatwas one of the points in the article.
I think I give you do aFox nineteen or WCPO credit for it.
Anyway, I saw it this morning. They said to go in,
they go into the forest deep andwork their way outward, but that they
will have to continue to go backthere because there's so many of the seeds

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that are in there. I mean, it's just like a never ending socle.
That's if you keep them really lowand control it, they're Once the
big ones are cut down, maybeit'll be a little bit easier. It's
easier to spray because you can goin there then and the spray that literally
spray them with a non selective vegetationkiller and take them out. So that's
the whole point. You get thebig ones, if you have the small
ones, you get rid of them. There's a guy in Hamilton then actually
develop the honeysuckle popper fifteen years agomaybe, and it's just way edge that

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you put underneath the center of thehoneysuckle and it wedges down. It's a
real long handle and it pops it. Remember that Pat him on the show
when he first developed it, andit was expensive and he had a hard
time selling them because not everybody hadhoneysuckle. But then he got it where
he put it in tool rentals,so you could rent this thing, but
you shove it underneath there and thenit's a pride bar, right, and
you would pop them right out ofthe ground. Well, the smaller ones

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you could do that with them,everything would just pop out, but the
bigger they get, the harder thatis to do. So the whole goal
is that if that's the point,they'll either come in and fall when all
the rest of the leaves are gone, but that still has leaves, you
can spray it at that time witha heavy concentration of a non selective vegetation
killer and do a pretty good numberon it for next spring. But then
you come back and make sure youfollow up if any suckers come up.

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But if you can't do that,cut them off at the ground, flush
as you can to the ground,and immediately and I'm talking as soon as
you're done cutting, come back andtop dress that with a weed killer,
brush killer, non selectiveg vegetation killeron top of the fresh cuts, because
that'll seal itself back over like aChristmas tree. Within two or three hours,

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it actually seals over and becomes impermeableto that stuff. So the kid,
Yeah, so they get right backon it as quick as they can.
That helps us stop it from suckeringback up. But if it does
come back up, and it can, then you go back in. It's
very easy to spot treat because youget it catch them all. They're small,
and you can spot treat. Basically. Now you're starving the roofs to
death. But you know, youlook at that thing, and you and

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I are talking about during the break, how it's hard to convince people to
get rid of it. Yeah.Why because it's a free plant. It
screens me and my neighbors. Itgrows into total shade. It's got a
white flowers, beautiful in the springtime, great red berries which all the birds
eat, which has little protein init, which is deceiving. Sure,
and they drop those seeds everywhere.But you know it has all these white

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flowers. Great, it's all it'sin leaf from the very beginning of the
season to the very end of theseason. So why do I want to
get rid of it? Well,look around, it's the only plant that's
growing anymore the floor of any ofthe wooded areas or non maintained areas if
the paars haven't already taken over that. So that's why you want to get
rid of it. And it's hardto convince people sometimes of doing that.

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But again, it's going to bea never ending battle. We just try
to suppress it as much as wecan. But that's one way they do
it. Cut it off and thenyou know, treat that stomping and go
from there. But again a lotof these places have volunteers where they'll put
a group together and try to clearout an area spin a day and just
get it all out of there.There was actually some research done at the

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University of Dayton that showed that insome instances where this was really heavy long
creek beds, that the leaves andall that fell into the water actually affected
some of the aquatic light and thecreeks as well or yeah, which was
kind of interesting. So, youknow, it's secrete something that nothing else
can grow around besides bigger trees.If you look, there's nothing else growing.
It stops everything from growing the problem, so it ruins the forest base

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or wherever it's growing, nothing elseis allowed to grow there. That's another
major reason why we don't want it. It's just it's wiping out our native
plants. Briefly though, I mean, if you know, people are Oh,
I'll just keep mine. It's justone in my yard, and I'm
not going to let it expand anythingbut with six thousand seeds, and the
birds will eat that and drop itsomewhere else, and drop it somewhere else,
So get rid of it for thesake of humanity. Yes, he's

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forty five eighty nine to five Ksee Detalk station. It's Friday, A
rent ruses to see and seeds.Yes, indeed, thanks in advance before

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we close the show, out forDanny Gleason covering for Just Strekker this weekend.
Looking forward to having Joe back.But nice orango kid. He does
a good job. He's Dan's verygood. I feel lucky that I got
Danny assigned to my good hands.I am your good hands. With both
of them, Joe and Dan,oh go hand. They go hand in
hand. Danny understands, he knowsweah a special place in our heart for

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Joe Strecker. So oh, I'mglad his pain has gone in his legs.
That's what he had, the backsurgery. One of them. He
says, stop roding, I did. I stopped. I stopped. I
stopped. He's laughing. If he'slistening, I know he can take a
joke. You can dish it outtoo. A couple of things. I

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just want to remind people when youhave problems something that you don't recognize on
your trees and shrubs or whatever itmay be. Uh. And we talked
about this Brian all the time,but I just want to keep reminding folks,
don't go grab something off the shelfand try to spray for it.
In many cases, it's something youcan't spray for. In many cases it's
something that's too late to spray forit. In some cases you don't need
to spray for it, and inmost cases you've used the wrong whatever you're

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trying to spray for it, Justjust spray for it. It scale right
now is big time on a lotof trees and shrubs, and then a
lot of the scales that are outthere's many different types. The best time
to go after him was when thosebabies are hatching out from underneath thos and
some of those swell up. Thescale is a bug, right, it's
an insect covered up by covered upby a little shell on the scale,

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I mean brain with a bug,but soft scale, hard shell scale.
But you attack each type of scaledifferently, so you have to recognize what
it is and then how to takecare of it. And it takes it
usually takes a while to suppress scaleand get get rid of it. But
don't just crab stuff and start sprying. Find out. Let somebody go to
your local independent garden center. Tryto identify which one it is, what

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stage we're in, and when's thebest time to go after the crawlers?
Whence is the best time to playthe systemic? Can you use a Dorman
oil that type of thing and walkyou through the process. So we're seeing
a lot of scale out there rightnow. Don't panic, find out what
it is and then learn how totake care of it. In many cases,
if it's only on a couple ofbranches, you put out the branches
that it's on, throw those awayand you pretty well taken care of it
at that point. So you know, there are many ways to look at

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that so again, get it identifiedfirst. Real QUI how does it end
up on a tree? They don'tlook mobile, you know what I mean?
A lot of times they'll get justmoved through the air and then wind
up landing on their branch. Whatevermay be cost me craps. That's it,
all right, And some plants aremore successful to scale than others.
But you'll see it on a lotof different plants. Again, it's getting

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an identified slug damage the same way, getting identified and figure out how to
take care of the slugs. Thisweek I had somebody called in and said,
you know, I got partially weplanted, and I've got this caterpillars
on it that are just destroying mypartially right now, what do I spray
it with? Well, twofold oneis give me a picture of the of
the caterpillar so I can see whatit is. Secondly, if you see

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three or four caterpillars and they're eatingall your leaves, you can just hand
pick them off in a quick smash. I don't know many caterpillars that are
resistant to that, and it reallydoes work without using any sprays. But
here's the situation that caterpillar having tobe a black swallowtail butterfly, which love
parsley, so we don't want todo anything to then we want to allow
them to go ahead and jimmy eatthe partially it don't come back. It's

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no big deal. Plan some moreparsley. That's a cool thing about planting
parsley and fennel on some of thoseother herbs is that a lot of the
butterflies, caterpillars absolutely love them.So in that case we let you know,
don't do anything to them, letthem go, don't spray, don't
do anything, but you know,find out what it is first, whether
you need to spray, and thenlook at something that's you know, more

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environmentally friendly. And again the oldhosing them off, stomping on them,
smash them with your hands, rubbingthem off scale. A lot of times,
if it's a light infestation, youcould rub them off of there with
the sponge that has the rough sideon it. Just rub them off of
there, hose it off and it'sa done deal. So there are a
lot of ways to attack it,but you need to know what it is

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first, positive identification, and thentake it from there. And usually local
independent garden centers, local extension offices, places like that, find out what
it is and then and then gofrom there. Don't just grab something off
the shelf. Well, And youknow, the nice thing is that the
Internet, as much as I amstarting to hate it more and more,
if you know the right sources exactly. And that's the kicker. You know.
You go on the Internet, andyou know we always kid from the

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Internet. It's got to be forreal, got to be the truth.
I use the Internet, you usethe Internet for research, but I know
the Internet sites that are research based, brother, that I can go to
and get the right information. Youcan find all kinds of stuff out there
on TikTok and Facebook and all therest stuff that people voice their opinions,
I know, you know, andthat's and some of the stuff I hear
sometimes you're just like, what thehell, where did that come from?

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Never heard of that one before.But I know the research based sites to
go to and learn for informations outthere, So again, be very cautious
about that. And my daughter,who you know, has a horticulture degree
and plant genetics degree from LSU,but she has an app. She used
it to identify any given species plant, to take a picture of it and

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immediately figure out what it is.Oh, that's a so and so,
that's this, and no it's notthat, it's something else, right,
I mean even shield use something likethat, Oh I do. We use
plant apps all the time to identifythere several of them out there. They're
do a great job because we don'tknow everything, know all the weeds that
come in there sometimes and you know, I can't figure it out, So
you use that plant app and atleast they give you some options, like

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I can't figure is I can't figureout if that is intentionally there or that's
a weed that's growing. That's whatalways comes in this popped up is it
intentional? Leave it there? It'ssomething out that you really want to here's
the kicker. You can always usuallytell when it starts a flower, it
really sets it apart. But younever want to let them flower and set
seed. So as soon as theywould start the flower and to identify it,

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then take the flower off in caseit is a weed. But that's
one of the best ways that alot of times that we can't identify a
particular weed, we can buy theseed or the flowerhead. Tune in tomorrow
here at fifty five kr s DetalkStation six AM for Ron Wilson. Thank
you, Ron. I do appreciateyour willingness to spend time with my listeners,
and we close out a week ona positive note. Have a wonderful
weekend, my friend Danny Gleeson again, thank you for producing the show this

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week. You're a good man.Tune in Monday for Monday Money with Brian
James and Christopher Smithman with the MondayMorning Smither Vent at seven thirty. Have
a wonderful weekend, and don't goaway because Glenn Beck's coming right up.