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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Sevenh six Here at fifty five KRCD talk station right
if I'm switching you a very happy Friday and welcoming
back into the fifty five KRC Morning show studio. Bring
him acount from the Hudson in Student. You can find
him on line at Hudson dot org. He is a
senior Fellow and director there of the Innovation on American
Energy Security at Hudson and Student. That's where we're talking
about today energy policy. He's got three decades at the domestic
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in foreign policy experience, served in key position with an industry, government,
and the military, recently responsible for running one of the
world's most complex energy transportation infrastructure networks, the Trans Alaska
Pipeline System. I also served as a regulatory co chair
of the federal Government's Commercial Space Advisor Committee senior executive
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appointments while working for both political parties during the three administrations,
so he's seen it all. He's also a professor at
Miami University, where he teaches graduate and undergraduate courses in law,
policy and ethics. Break him, it's always a pleasure having
in the studio. Man, I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Hi am Brian.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's great to see you, and I understand we have
a lot of energy to talk about, and it's been
the subject matter. I mean, obviously I talk about energy
problems policies, and they're seemingly divorced from reality nature given
this green revolution we're being forced to undergo. So we've
got a lot of topics to talk about. But this
energy policy took you to Hungary recently.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, sure did, was in Hungary last week and attending
a geopolitical conference put on by several organizations, you know,
primarily because Central and Eastern Europe are not on board
with the green energy transition and being pushed by Germany
and a couple others.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh I thought they were all lockstep in, locked in
arm in arm, marching forward toward a green new world.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Brigham, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Would think that, but you know, when you drill into it, Europe,
like the US, it's not monolithic, right, and people have
different perspectives, and for especially those that used to be
under the boot of the Soviet Union, they have a
different perspective on life.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I imagine living under the boot of oppression that long,
they might be jaded, cynical, and not have a whole
lot of confidence in their government lords and masters.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, I think the term we use in foreign policy
and political speak is they're realists.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, let's put this realism to the test. I noted
that when you were there, and you've got quite a
few notes for me to rely on, which I appreciate
because it's hard enough keeping track of everything that's going
on here in the United States, let alone what's going
on the European Union. But I understand that you were told,
or the German citizen who was told by their gases
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are whoever their energies are, that, well, we don't need
natural gas anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's right, despite the fact that I was just
looking at carbon emissions. If we want to use that
as a measuring stick.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well that's what they like to do, isn't it. Yeah, Well,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's fascinating because remember we used to talk about pollution
and how pollution is harmful to one's health. Right, Yeah,
I think we all agree with that, no doubt about it.
And we start talking about greenhouse gases and there's not
one greenhouse gas. There's a little more than a half
a dozen. But suddenly we just started talking about one
greenhouse gas, yeah, carbon dioxide, right, plant food.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, the reason is we're actually cleaning up the world.
You know, we have the best air and water quality
since the Industrial Revolution, or at least since the United
States started keeping data on this. Right, you can actually
swim in rivers, the Cuyahoga doesn't catch fire, you can
actually see.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You can eat the fish out of Lake Erie. You
can you can walleye you like the walleyfe absolutely? Okay,
then walleye fishing is quite a few times in my
life in Lake Erie.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But it used to be basically sludge.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean there was a Saturday night live routine about
you know, Lake Erie water and had you know, chunks
and it was a little like jelly and they're putting
it in bottles. So you know, fresh from Lake Erie,
natural water, unfiltered.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, I do remember, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean you know at the time, people you know,
up and down, you know the circula and the clean
up sites and the expense and the costs. But you know,
for years and years and years, companies literally poured like
benzene right into the ground. Benzinees are carcinogen. We don't
want that anymore. I get the idea, but those are
identifible pollutants, identifiable pollutants manufacturing byproducts or products, and they
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cause cancer, for example. And fine carbon dioxide we exhale
that and plants eat it. I mean, there's nothing demonstrably
wrong with it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, you know, there's not. And people that are more
of the more that you know. I'm not a scientist
or an environmental engineer, but people will tell you that
the carbon dioxide levels in this in the world.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Used to be a lot higher.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And yeah, actually, if we if we slim down and
look at it, it is a minor component in the atmosphere,
and human activity is responsible for less than one percent.
So in fact, I think it's point one six or
somebody's gonna go, oh, no, that's not right, but the
point is it's very small. And so yeah, you have
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this German climate czar. They're John carry except wait her
name by the way, and I've met her before. She's
invited kind enough to invite me to a meeting. But
her name is Jennifer Morgan. That sounds so Deutsch, doesn't it. Yeah, Oh,
she's an American. Morgan yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
She is an American born dual citizen, Jennifer Lee and
former head of Greenpeace International.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh no, she's not biased at all.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
No, no, no, So she was traveling to Canada because
Canada has a liberal government right now, and I think
most forecasters say that's gonna switch after the next election.
Justin Trudeau is a good kid, but you know, time
for adults to get back in charge at Canada too.
So she said, by the way, we're warned that Germany
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and Europe will require less natural gas from countries like Canada.
Germany will be driving toward forward on a renewables and
we don't need your natural gas anymore, So don't invest.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Are they planning ongoing nuclear power because last time I check,
we all know the problems associated with solar and wind.
Sometimes yes, it does produce electricity, but a lot of
times it doesn't because wind's not blown, the sun's not shining. Problems, problems, problems, problems.
Are they not going to have data centers in Germany, because,
as you and I both know, these artificial intelligent data
centers are what is renewing the demand for nuclear power
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in our country. I know you had the article and
I talked about it earlier in the program. This week
they're opening back up Three Mile Island for the basically
because of artificial intelligence data center demands.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Isn't that the one Microsoft's involved with? It is?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, So Microsoft's building a giant data center and there's
not enough power for the citizenry to add additional what
they're going to be using twenty percent of the available's
power or whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So let's open three Mile Island. Yeah, so we need
more energy, not less.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And I think one of the things that's going to
sort of bring into start contrast this notion because green energy,
and this is something I talked about in Hungary green energy,
we've never before, Brian had an energy transition where we've
gone from a fuel source that gives us more energy
to a fuel source that gives us less energy, less density,
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right the evolution. Yes, and that's what we're talking about.
And it's not going to work because the world has
never used in our entire history, minus war and COVID
less energy. It's not a thing. We use more energy
the earth. The world uses almost fifty percent more energy
now than we did just twenty years ago. It's not
a thing you cannot conserve your way to nirvana. No,
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in every good and service requires energy. There are more
people on the globe now compared to twenty thirty years ago,
one hundred years ago, I mean billions more So, even
if you don't develop new energy consuming technologies or things
that people need to live, the amount of needed energy
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is going to increase necessarily simply because the population increases.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And we currently have four billion people around the world
living not only in poverty, but below what the UN
even says is an acceptable level of energy. And they
want what we have. They see how wonderful it is,
they want it for themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, and by virtue of the globalization we're going through,
they see, sure as hell hell bend for leather to
take it from us, whether we want to do it
or not. By for example, the proposals from the UN
the other day with mandatory taxation. Yeah, mandatory minimum confiscation
of a percentage of gross domestic product.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, it's global wealth redistribution. Well, yeah, that's exactly
what it is. And you know, America has gotten to
where it is today not by taking other people's stuff,
but by developing our own. That American exceptionalism, and I
think when you look at energy next to the cost
of raw materials and labor people. Energy is the magic
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ingredient that makes a country prosperous or makes a country weak.
And we don't nowhere in the world do you have
an economy that is energy poor yet rich.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Doesn't exist, can't exist. Springham a guy. We'll continue with
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Seven twenty here Fiftbouck KRCY talk station Brian Thomas with
Briga McCowan, Senior Fellow and director of INITIAT, the Initiative
on American Energy Security at the Hudson ins Too, which
you can find online at Hudson dot org. Brigham, again,
you were in Hungry delivering a speech on energy policy. Obviously,
the Germans seem a scotch misguided thinking they can live
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without any natural gas at all? Are they still getting
natural gas fromhich're from Russia.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They are, in fact, they're importing liquefied natural gas since
somebody did something to a couple of pipelines that was
bringing all of the natural gas to Germany, and for
maybe let's revisit that for a second. The Nordstream system
Nordstream one and two is an Angla Merkel project to
bring massive amounts of natural gas into Germany to power
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the German economy and all that went up with the
twenty two Russian invasion Almosid Soviet Is it the same thing, No,
it's not. Okay, the Russian invasion of They would like.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You to believe it is the same thing, but no,
it's not the same thing. No.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
By the way, do you know that the Russian Empire
right now their GDP is equivalent to that of Italy.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Boy, there's a real milestone there. Italy. Italy. Yeah, they're
a powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well you know what Italy's going to soon pass up
Germany baseball. What you're telling you this morning, Well they
are because this is the thing. Despite this green energy transition,
what has been underlying it for all these years is
cheap Russian oil and gas, and it slowed to a trickle,
and what you've seen is energy prices dramatically rise in
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Germany and lack of investment in industry folding up and
leaving the country.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
That does happen, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
It does because again, you know, I can't emphasize enough
energy prices matter, and if renewables were actually cheaper, if
putting a windmill up or something else made sense, people
would do it, clearly.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I mean, there's no question about that. But the only
reason anybody does it now is because it comes with
dangling carrots from the government incentives, you know, discount loans
or freebies or cash infusions, tax ride offs or write downs.
It's a fake way of creating something that seems reasonable,
and yet it is a deficit inspiring. It is a
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government expanding reality.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And I think you know, from a Hudson and Stute standpoint,
one of the things that worries me is and I'm
not saying that windmills are solar panels are bad by
all means. They have their place, but they have their
place in the toolbox. But just like you can't use
a hammer for everything you do around your house, although
I've tried before, it doesn't work. You need different tools
for different project. That's the same thing with our energy mix.
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You do need different tools, but you can't get there
just on one piece. So if we were actually serious
about this, instead of saying you must use this energy,
not that energy, government regulators should be more like referees. Hey,
here is the goal, no pun intended. We want to
reduce X. We want to promote Y. You guys figure
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out how to do it, and we'll make sure nobody's
cheating and level the playing field. The government should be
the referee, not the micromanager. Yes, but in a green
energy focused discussion.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
These all require manufacturing, for example, batteries or as they
go back to batteries because China apparently is core to
the market and literally everything you need to create a battery,
and also manufacturing. Now I know we're building manufacturing capacity here.
It takes a little time, but the key ingredients are
still coming from China.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
They are.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, so we are building China's economy and resources and
by corollary, military because we have to buy everything that
this forced green economy has pushed on us and it
comes from China.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Our hard earned dollars are going to China. We're losing money,
they're gaining money. And the corollary is if we look
back to the Arab oil embargo of seventy five and
how America went from energy abundance during World War Two
to scraping, begging, pleading with Opek for a little oil,
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it weakened us economically, It weakened our security, It weakened
our standing in the world. Where you have energy dominance,
energy security, energy abundance, you have what we call hard
power and soft power, you can convince people to do things,
and your economy is strong. And what we're treating and
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having now reached energy and dependence, there are people that
want to take us back to the past. But it's
not OPEC. It's going to be China that we're dependent
upon for everything we do. That's a terrible plan.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well that seems to be. You know, after COVID, it
was a bunch of eyes finally open up to that reality.
From masks to pharmaceuticals to medical equipment, at literally everything
it was because China was supplying it. We had no
local manufacturers or resource to provide us with much needed
equipment and goods.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Right, I mean, you know, globalization, it's given us cheaper stuff.
We all like cheap stuff, but you know, look around
your house, look at your Amazon order next time. How
much of it comes from anywhere other than China. And
people are starting to wake up because China steals every design. Yeah,
they take everything that we've been given because in their culture,
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there is no such thing as private property interest.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's all. It's all for the mass people's property. That's right.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
See, that's where politics centers into the equation, providing them
with a straight faced justification for stealing from US seven
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Seven thirty one fifty five KRCB talk stations are very
Happy Friday to you Bryan Thomas with Brigha McCowen in studios,
the Senior Fellow Director of Initiative on American Energy Energy
Security at the Hudson Institute Energy Security Security. That's an
interesting word there, Brigha McCowen, because we don't seem to
really have much security. And as the population of the
world increases, as you mentioned before, obviously necessarily the amount
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of electricity we need is going to increase. Without electricity,
you don't have any form of well standard of living, right,
I mean the countries without plumbing, for example, you need
pumps to pump water. Pumps are driven by electricity, right.
You know, you want air conditioning because place is hotter
than hell, You're gonna need air conditioning, electrics, I mean
state in the obvious. But it's just it's inextricably intertwined
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with everything we do.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And you know, I think we've taken for granted for
at least as long as I've been around. You flipped
the light switch and it's going to come on. Yeah,
it works, right. You go to the gas station, Eh,
most of the time anyway, there's gas in the pump.
You go places, it just all works and I think
that's the complacency that worries me certainly, is that we've
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taken it for granted. But you know, look at the
price of the pump, look at what electricity rates are,
look where things are headed.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well in the electricity rates are going to go up again.
I presume the Public Utility Commission of how it is
going to prove the duke energy rate increase. Now, they'll
stand back and say, well, it's only an extra one
hundred and thirty bucks over three years or whatever. But
we've seen a precipitous increase in electricity prices. And what
they need this rate increase for, part of which, anyway,
I know, is to deal with for green energy. They
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want to buy some of these massive battery storage facilities
or create battery storage facilities. So when the wind is
blowing and electricity is being generated by that windmill, they
get to put it into a battery and then when
the inevitable happens and the wind stops blowing and electricity
is not being produced, they go hook it up.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
To the battery. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
You know the problem with that is if we took
all battery capacity in the United States, plugged it all in,
got it all ready assumed it was all working, and
we turned everything off, it would last a couple of seconds.
It's not a viable alternation, and it's extremely expensive when
you have right nuclear power, where you have natural gas
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fired electricity generators, when you have other means that are
far cheaper. You know, the government is trying to turn
the utilities into an extension of the government, and the
utilities are like, hey, we have to do this because
the government's requiring it, and nobody cares because they just
it's passed the buck. It's passed the buck to you,
it's passed the buck to me. We're are the only
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ones that are ultimately going to feel the pinch. Everything
else just to pass through.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, it's well, like my comment on taxes on corporation,
those evil money making entities that employ everybody, the more
you tax them, the more expensive the products or services
they provide are going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's a pass through. It's a pass through part of
doing business like anything else.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, And I think that's one of the concerns I
have with some folks in government and some folks that
want to continue to be in government, is that there
is this notion that corporations are rich, that they all
have money trees out back of their headquarters. This doesn't exist.
This is a fallacy, and you know, sadly it can
make us out of mind. Are we going to be
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competitive in the world? Are we going to be uncompetitive
in the world. Because if we want to be competitive,
if we want to be exceptional, if we want to
house the data centers, if we want to be at
the top of our game, then we better have good
people that are educated. We need to figure out a
way to extract more raw materials, and we better have
cheap energy prices. It's that simple. It's really not hard.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's not hard, but that concept as salable as is
to anybody in my listening audience, like, well, no kidd
we want to be competitive, no kidding, we want to
be the best, no kidding, we want to be the strongest.
That is not the mindset of the many, many many
people in government elected and otherwise. They don't want us
to be the strongest nation in the world. They don't
want us to be the most successful. We are an
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illustration in their mind of something that is evil and
should be avoided because we're rapacious, we use too many resources,
we're too successful, and damn it, we've got too much stuff.
We need to share it with the rest of the
world because of our success.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, and to your point, the people that are saying this,
I call them members of the global cocktail Club.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, you know, they're curson.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Of the private jet of their yacht and harumph and
complain about the little people and their carbon production and
the masses and what needs to be done to them
to get them under their thumb.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, yes, yes, that that is the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And you know, where there is independence, whether it's energy independence,
financial independence, whatever you want to talk about. You have choices,
you have power, you have literally personal independence. That's what
we want. That's what we want for all Americans. That's
what at least that's what we want for all Americans.
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And uh, you know, the people running the government, most
of them have never had a private sector job in
their entire life.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And that is the problem.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
When I go to Europe, people have alphabet soup behind
their name, and I'll say, say, so, where have you worked,
And you know what, it's academia, it's government, it's nonprofits.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
There's no private sector experience. And I bet you ran
into a whole lot of word salads when you were
over there in hunt.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Let's pause.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
We'll bring back Brigerman when you get his se He
does have some thoughts on immigration as well, because it
was a topic of conversation when he was in Hungary,
just like it has been here. It's seven point thirty
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Speaker 1 (28:41):
Rather so I get it out Brigham. It is.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It is a Friday, but let me pivot. He in
a nuclear We talked earlier, just briefly about the idea
of reopening one of the reactors at three Mile Island
for the purposes of providing Microsoft atdequate electricity for its
artificial intelligence center. Other artificial intelligence centers are popping up
where they similarly need these energy demands. And so now
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it seems that it has opened up the door to
consideration of nuclear power. Oh lo, and behold, all the
time they've been pushing us to rely on a windmill,
I'm screaming over here, what about nuclear power? It doesn't
produce the carbon that they're so worried about. The new
modern nuclear plants are what they call modular, which means
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You just pick a space, pop it down. We can
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They had the yucka Mountain thing. They could have stored
all the nuclear waste in the entire country for one
hundred years and never would have been filled.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Whatever the stats are, the wakay see you years ago?
Tell me I'm wrong? Is anything I said wrong?
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we have one.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay, Now, moving over our discussion about the reality behind
the Green New Deal is that we're too powerful. We
need to redistribute our wealth, and we have too much stuff.
What about these third world countries? We need to offshore
money and develop them. Nuclear power here in the United
States would eradicate the ability to bring us to our
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knees Economically, we would have all the power we want.
We could be the most powerful, mighty energy producer on
the planet, and we wouldn't be producing a single ounce
or molecule of carbon dioxide.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
That's why they don't want it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
All right, let me give you this is very complicated.
Let me give you a very complicated answer.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yes, so I've been right all along and in my conclusions. Yeah,
and it flies in the face of the reality of
what they really want, which is to bring us down.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It does. And you know, I've got this handy app here.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I was just looking Germany right now, right now, in Germany,
about eighty percent of their electricity.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Is from.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Generation at the moment. Let's go next door to France.
Uh yeah, they're about sixty percent nuclear.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Oh, look at this.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
France is ninety nine percent low carbon producing electricity.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right now because nuclear.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's nuclear, and they have one of the cheapest rates,
their citizens enjoy a very cheap electricity. Sure they're more
expensive to build on the front end, but these things
last a long time.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Fifty years.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We can build one hundred year reactor now it's just
a matter of updating it. So yeah, uh, you know,
I think in retrospect, we've had a couple of things
go on. Three Mile Island certainly is something that people remember,
and it's not that reactor they're restarting, it's the.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
One next one next to right.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And then, uh, modern nuclear actors are different than the
type they had at Three Mile Island.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
If they're different.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
When somebody says three Mile Island Chernobyl Fukushima, we go, well, yeah,
that's like saying I want a nineteen sixty five International
Harvester SUV truck thing. It's different today, and they're far safer,
they use far less uranium or uranium drive products, and
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it's really where we ought to be headed. But we
have an agency that's supposed to permit nuclear facilities that
has spent its entire life as an agency trying not to.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Permit any exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And then the environmental lawsuits come in in these last
ten years and then they have a change in permitting
because somebody in government says no, no, you need to
reapply and it starts to process all over again. So
from start to finish you look at it almost like
two decades to get a nuclear power plant build. That's
the administrative state standing in the way.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It absolutely is in Poland, for example, and in Hungary
a couple other places. They're also moving toward nuclear power.
In the South Koreans, the Japanese and others are actually
getting those contracts because they can actually build a nuclear
plant in a couple of years, and we can do
the same. And one of the proposals we've looked at
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at Hudson I'll talk more about this on my next
episode of Charged Conversations the podcast is we can license
two or three different types of reactors, different sizes, and
once they're licensed.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
You just build the same one. That's the point.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Quit trying to tweak it. You have a license, you
build it. But these data centers, Brian can require anywhere
from one to five gigawatts gigawatts. This isn't like back
to the future. This is real of energy. That could
be two to four nuclear plants just to power a
five gigawatt facility.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And if AI is the future and we don't have
the energy to power AI facilities, I guess they're going
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How often you do?
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The new podcast episodes every other week every other week,
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were hearing Brigham, he was talking about this app he
has on his phone. What is it?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
What is that app called? Again?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Because it's fascinating. I mean, you can look at the globe,
how much people are paying, how much carbon production there is,
what type of energy is being generated in any given country,
even on a state by state level here in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, that's certain.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
What you call electricity maps And I just learned about
it a week ago, so I'm still trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But just one word electricitymaps dot com that it. It's well,
it's an app, So you go to your app store.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Oh, okay, fire it up. But I do think you
can go to the website too and electricity map. Yeah,
check it out. It's got a lot of good information.
You can become informed about where your energy.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Comes from well, and just be aware of the backcrop
insanity going on in Europe. Germany cutting its own throat.
And you know when you talk about manufacturing leaving Germany
of the entire European Union, Germany was the powerhouse.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, I think you can take almost every other EU
country and combine it in at equalled Germany. But Germany
has lost a lot of ground. And you know we
have Europeans saying Germany's on its way to becoming an
open air museum. Oh that's heartbreaking, it really is, because
they used to have their act together more.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh Man, when you mentioned manufacturing, the first thing that
would pop in anybody who has any sense of understanding
about the quality. Yeah, Germany was always number one in
terms of quality. Yes, German parts always costed more, but
they had superior quality, superior engineering, and I just we
just can't count on that anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
It's really frustrating.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Even the trains don't run on time now, which is
which is really if you're a German you've been to Germany,
that is like the ultimate insult that the Deutsche Bahn
doesn't work correctly.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, I think you and I both really do know
what's going on. It's global communism, Marxism, socialism, called it,
whatever label you want. Their control over us, depriving us
of what we need to be more comfortable, happier and
more productive and wealthier. That's a no no among those circles.
Briga mccawam. We'll be talking again soon. I hope I'll
be a wonderful weekend. And thanks for spending time in
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studio with my listeners and me today, Folks, stick around
After the top of the Air news. Author Tim Rivers
he's going to return. He was on the show in
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some updates to go over with Tim after the top
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Speaker 1 (39:57):
What's wrong with German people thanking?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
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Sevenh six Here at fifty five KRCD talk station right
if I'm switching you a very happy Friday and welcoming
back into the fifty five KRC Morning show studio. Bring
him acount from the Hudson in Student. You can find
him on line at Hudson dot org. He is a
senior Fellow and director there of the Innovation on American
Energy Security at Hudson and Student. That's where we're talking
about today energy policy. He's got three decades at the domestic
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in foreign policy experience, served in key position with an industry, government,
and the military, recently responsible for running one of the
world's most complex energy transportation infrastructure networks, the Trans Alaska
Pipeline System. I also served as a regulatory co chair
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appointments while working for both political parties during the three administrations,
so he's seen it all. He's also a professor at
Miami University, where he teaches graduate and undergraduate courses in law,
policy and ethics. Break him, it's always a pleasure having
in the studio. Man, I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Hi am Brian.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's great to see you, and I understand we have
a lot of energy to talk about, and it's been
the subject matter. I mean, obviously I talk about energy
problems policies, and they're seemingly divorced from reality nature given
this green revolution we're being forced to undergo. So we've
got a lot of topics to talk about. But this
energy policy took you to Hungary recently.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, sure did, was in Hungary last week and attending
a geopolitical conference put on by several organizations, you know,
primarily because Central and Eastern Europe are not on board
with the green energy transition and being pushed by Germany
and a couple others.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh I thought they were all lockstep in, locked in
arm in arm, marching forward toward a green new world.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Brigham, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Would think that, but you know, when you drill into it, Europe,
like the US, it's not monolithic, right, and people have
different perspectives, and for especially those that used to be
under the boot of the Soviet Union, they have a
different perspective on life.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I imagine living under the boot of oppression that long,
they might be jaded, cynical, and not have a whole
lot of confidence in their government lords and masters.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, I think the term we use in foreign policy
and political speak is they're realists.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, let's put this realism to the test. I noted
that when you were there, and you've got quite a
few notes for me to rely on, which I appreciate
because it's hard enough keeping track of everything that's going
on here in the United States, let alone what's going
on the European Union. But I understand that you were told,
or the German citizen who was told by their gases
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are whoever their energies are, that, well, we don't need
natural gas anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's right, despite the fact that I was just
looking at carbon emissions. If we want to use that
as a measuring stick.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well that's what they like to do, isn't it. Yeah, Well,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's fascinating because remember we used to talk about pollution
and how pollution is harmful to one's health. Right, Yeah,
I think we all agree with that, no doubt about it.
And we start talking about greenhouse gases and there's not
one greenhouse gas. There's a little more than a half
a dozen. But suddenly we just started talking about one
greenhouse gas, yeah, carbon dioxide, right, plant food.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, the reason is we're actually cleaning up the world.
You know, we have the best air and water quality
since the Industrial Revolution, or at least since the United
States started keeping data on this. Right, you can actually
swim in rivers, the Cuyahoga doesn't catch fire, you can
actually see.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You can eat the fish out of Lake Erie. You
can you can walleye you like the walleyfe absolutely? Okay,
then walleye fishing is quite a few times in my
life in Lake Erie.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But it used to be basically sludge.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean there was a Saturday night live routine about
you know, Lake Erie water and had you know, chunks
and it was a little like jelly and they're putting
it in bottles. So you know, fresh from Lake Erie,
natural water, unfiltered.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, I do remember, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean you know at the time, people you know,
up and down, you know the circula and the clean
up sites and the expense and the costs. But you know,
for years and years and years, companies literally poured like
benzene right into the ground. Benzinees are carcinogen. We don't
want that anymore. I get the idea, but those are
identifible pollutants, identifiable pollutants manufacturing byproducts or products, and they
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cause cancer, for example. And fine carbon dioxide we exhale
that and plants eat it. I mean, there's nothing demonstrably
wrong with it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, you know, there's not. And people that are more
of the more that you know. I'm not a scientist
or an environmental engineer, but people will tell you that
the carbon dioxide levels in this in the world.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Used to be a lot higher.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And yeah, actually, if we if we slim down and
look at it, it is a minor component in the atmosphere,
and human activity is responsible for less than one percent.
So in fact, I think it's point one six or
somebody's gonna go, oh, no, that's not right, but the
point is it's very small. And so yeah, you have
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this German climate czar. They're John carry except wait her
name by the way, and I've met her before. She's
invited kind enough to invite me to a meeting. But
her name is Jennifer Morgan. That sounds so Deutsch, doesn't it. Yeah, Oh,
she's an American. Morgan yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
She is an American born dual citizen, Jennifer Lee and
former head of Greenpeace International.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh no, she's not biased at all.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
No, no, no, So she was traveling to Canada because
Canada has a liberal government right now, and I think
most forecasters say that's gonna switch after the next election.
Justin Trudeau is a good kid, but you know, time
for adults to get back in charge at Canada too.
So she said, by the way, we're warned that Germany
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and Europe will require less natural gas from countries like Canada.
Germany will be driving toward forward on a renewables and
we don't need your natural gas anymore, So don't invest.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Are they planning ongoing nuclear power because last time I check,
we all know the problems associated with solar and wind.
Sometimes yes, it does produce electricity, but a lot of
times it doesn't because wind's not blown, the sun's not shining. Problems, problems, problems, problems.
Are they not going to have data centers in Germany, because,
as you and I both know, these artificial intelligent data
centers are what is renewing the demand for nuclear power
(07:05):
in our country. I know you had the article and
I talked about it earlier in the program. This week
they're opening back up Three Mile Island for the basically
because of artificial intelligence data center demands.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Isn't that the one Microsoft's involved with? It is?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, So Microsoft's building a giant data center and there's
not enough power for the citizenry to add additional what
they're going to be using twenty percent of the available's
power or whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So let's open three Mile Island. Yeah, so we need
more energy, not less.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And I think one of the things that's going to
sort of bring into start contrast this notion because green energy,
and this is something I talked about in Hungary green energy,
we've never before, Brian had an energy transition where we've
gone from a fuel source that gives us more energy
to a fuel source that gives us less energy, less density,
(07:57):
right the evolution. Yes, and that's what we're talking about.
And it's not going to work because the world has
never used in our entire history, minus war and COVID
less energy. It's not a thing. We use more energy
the earth. The world uses almost fifty percent more energy
now than we did just twenty years ago. It's not
a thing you cannot conserve your way to nirvana. No,
(08:19):
in every good and service requires energy. There are more
people on the globe now compared to twenty thirty years ago,
one hundred years ago, I mean billions more So, even
if you don't develop new energy consuming technologies or things
that people need to live, the amount of needed energy
(08:39):
is going to increase necessarily simply because the population increases.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And we currently have four billion people around the world
living not only in poverty, but below what the UN
even says is an acceptable level of energy. And they
want what we have. They see how wonderful it is,
they want it for themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, and by virtue of the globalization we're going through,
they see, sure as hell hell bend for leather to
take it from us, whether we want to do it
or not. By for example, the proposals from the UN
the other day with mandatory taxation. Yeah, mandatory minimum confiscation
of a percentage of gross domestic product.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, it's global wealth redistribution. Well, yeah, that's exactly
what it is. And you know, America has gotten to
where it is today not by taking other people's stuff,
but by developing our own. That American exceptionalism, and I
think when you look at energy next to the cost
of raw materials and labor people. Energy is the magic
(09:45):
ingredient that makes a country prosperous or makes a country weak.
And we don't nowhere in the world do you have
an economy that is energy poor yet rich.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Doesn't exist, can't exist. Springham a guy. We'll continue with
them in studio. We have a lot more to talk
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So is the ramp from Woodchell just above Lynch Stream
to northbound seventy five. There's an accident eastbound Viterral's ramp
to Ridge chuck Ingram up afty five KRC the talk station.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Seven twenty here Fiftbouck KRCY talk station Brian Thomas with
Briga McCowan, Senior Fellow and director of INITIAT, the Initiative
on American Energy Security at the Hudson ins Too, which
you can find online at Hudson dot org. Brigham, again,
you were in Hungry delivering a speech on energy policy. Obviously,
the Germans seem a scotch misguided thinking they can live
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without any natural gas at all? Are they still getting
natural gas fromhich're from Russia.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They are, in fact, they're importing liquefied natural gas since
somebody did something to a couple of pipelines that was
bringing all of the natural gas to Germany, and for
maybe let's revisit that for a second. The Nordstream system
Nordstream one and two is an Angla Merkel project to
bring massive amounts of natural gas into Germany to power
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the German economy and all that went up with the
twenty two Russian invasion Almosid Soviet Is it the same thing, No,
it's not. Okay, the Russian invasion of They would like.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You to believe it is the same thing, but no,
it's not the same thing. No.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
By the way, do you know that the Russian Empire
right now their GDP is equivalent to that of Italy.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Boy, there's a real milestone there. Italy. Italy. Yeah, they're
a powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well you know what Italy's going to soon pass up
Germany baseball. What you're telling you this morning, Well they
are because this is the thing. Despite this green energy transition,
what has been underlying it for all these years is
cheap Russian oil and gas, and it slowed to a trickle,
and what you've seen is energy prices dramatically rise in
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Germany and lack of investment in industry folding up and
leaving the country.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
That does happen, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
It does because again, you know, I can't emphasize enough
energy prices matter, and if renewables were actually cheaper, if
putting a windmill up or something else made sense, people
would do it, clearly.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I mean, there's no question about that. But the only
reason anybody does it now is because it comes with
dangling carrots from the government incentives, you know, discount loans
or freebies or cash infusions, tax ride offs or write downs.
It's a fake way of creating something that seems reasonable,
and yet it is a deficit inspiring. It is a
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government expanding reality.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And I think you know, from a Hudson and Stute standpoint,
one of the things that worries me is and I'm
not saying that windmills are solar panels are bad by
all means. They have their place, but they have their
place in the toolbox. But just like you can't use
a hammer for everything you do around your house, although
I've tried before, it doesn't work. You need different tools
for different project. That's the same thing with our energy mix.
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You do need different tools, but you can't get there
just on one piece. So if we were actually serious
about this, instead of saying you must use this energy,
not that energy, government regulators should be more like referees. Hey,
here is the goal, no pun intended. We want to
reduce X. We want to promote Y. You guys figure
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out how to do it, and we'll make sure nobody's
cheating and level the playing field. The government should be
the referee, not the micromanager. Yes, but in a green
energy focused discussion.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
These all require manufacturing, for example, batteries or as they
go back to batteries because China apparently is core to
the market and literally everything you need to create a battery,
and also manufacturing. Now I know we're building manufacturing capacity here.
It takes a little time, but the key ingredients are
still coming from China.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
They are.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, so we are building China's economy and resources and
by corollary, military because we have to buy everything that
this forced green economy has pushed on us and it
comes from China.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Our hard earned dollars are going to China. We're losing money,
they're gaining money. And the corollary is if we look
back to the Arab oil embargo of seventy five and
how America went from energy abundance during World War Two
to scraping, begging, pleading with Opek for a little oil,
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it weakened us economically, It weakened our security, It weakened
our standing in the world. Where you have energy dominance,
energy security, energy abundance, you have what we call hard
power and soft power, you can convince people to do things,
and your economy is strong. And what we're treating and
(16:59):
having now reached energy and dependence, there are people that
want to take us back to the past. But it's
not OPEC. It's going to be China that we're dependent
upon for everything we do. That's a terrible plan.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well that seems to be. You know, after COVID, it
was a bunch of eyes finally open up to that reality.
From masks to pharmaceuticals to medical equipment, at literally everything
it was because China was supplying it. We had no
local manufacturers or resource to provide us with much needed
equipment and goods.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Right, I mean, you know, globalization, it's given us cheaper stuff.
We all like cheap stuff, but you know, look around
your house, look at your Amazon order next time. How
much of it comes from anywhere other than China. And
people are starting to wake up because China steals every design. Yeah,
they take everything that we've been given because in their culture,
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there is no such thing as private property interest.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's all. It's all for the mass people's property. That's right.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
See, that's where politics centers into the equation, providing them
with a straight faced justification for stealing from US seven
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There's a wind advisor that starts at noon expecting some
really high winds which will probably knock some trees over
so they're expecting damage as well. Over night winds a
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Sixty four Tomorrow continued showers at highest seventy with spotty
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Thunderstorms are possible. I have seventy one, which is right
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Speaker 2 (20:24):
Seven thirty one fifty five KRCB talk stations are very
Happy Friday to you Bryan Thomas with Brigha McCowen in studios,
the Senior Fellow Director of Initiative on American Energy Energy
Security at the Hudson Institute Energy Security Security. That's an
interesting word there, Brigha McCowen, because we don't seem to
really have much security. And as the population of the
world increases, as you mentioned before, obviously necessarily the amount
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of electricity we need is going to increase. Without electricity,
you don't have any form of well standard of living, right,
I mean the countries without plumbing, for example, you need
pumps to pump water. Pumps are driven by electricity, right.
You know, you want air conditioning because place is hotter
than hell, You're gonna need air conditioning, electrics, I mean
state in the obvious. But it's just it's inextricably intertwined
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with everything we do.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And you know, I think we've taken for granted for
at least as long as I've been around. You flipped
the light switch and it's going to come on. Yeah,
it works, right. You go to the gas station, Eh,
most of the time anyway, there's gas in the pump.
You go places, it just all works and I think
that's the complacency that worries me certainly, is that we've
(21:33):
taken it for granted. But you know, look at the
price of the pump, look at what electricity rates are,
look where things are headed.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well in the electricity rates are going to go up again.
I presume the Public Utility Commission of how it is
going to prove the duke energy rate increase. Now, they'll
stand back and say, well, it's only an extra one
hundred and thirty bucks over three years or whatever. But
we've seen a precipitous increase in electricity prices. And what
they need this rate increase for, part of which, anyway,
I know, is to deal with for green energy. They
(22:03):
want to buy some of these massive battery storage facilities
or create battery storage facilities. So when the wind is
blowing and electricity is being generated by that windmill, they
get to put it into a battery and then when
the inevitable happens and the wind stops blowing and electricity
is not being produced, they go hook it up.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
To the battery. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
You know the problem with that is if we took
all battery capacity in the United States, plugged it all in,
got it all ready assumed it was all working, and
we turned everything off, it would last a couple of seconds.
It's not a viable alternation, and it's extremely expensive when
you have right nuclear power, where you have natural gas
(22:48):
fired electricity generators, when you have other means that are
far cheaper. You know, the government is trying to turn
the utilities into an extension of the government, and the
utilities are like, hey, we have to do this because
the government's requiring it, and nobody cares because they just
it's passed the buck. It's passed the buck to you,
it's passed the buck to me. We're are the only
(23:09):
ones that are ultimately going to feel the pinch. Everything
else just to pass through.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, it's well, like my comment on taxes on corporation,
those evil money making entities that employ everybody, the more
you tax them, the more expensive the products or services
they provide are going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's a pass through. It's a pass through part of
doing business like anything else.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, And I think that's one of the concerns I
have with some folks in government and some folks that
want to continue to be in government, is that there
is this notion that corporations are rich, that they all
have money trees out back of their headquarters. This doesn't exist.
This is a fallacy, and you know, sadly it can
make us out of mind. Are we going to be
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competitive in the world? Are we going to be uncompetitive
in the world. Because if we want to be competitive,
if we want to be exceptional, if we want to
house the data centers, if we want to be at
the top of our game, then we better have good
people that are educated. We need to figure out a
way to extract more raw materials, and we better have
cheap energy prices. It's that simple. It's really not hard.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's not hard, but that concept as salable as is
to anybody in my listening audience, like, well, no kidd
we want to be competitive, no kidding, we want to
be the best, no kidding, we want to be the strongest.
That is not the mindset of the many, many many
people in government elected and otherwise. They don't want us
to be the strongest nation in the world. They don't
want us to be the most successful. We are an
(24:34):
illustration in their mind of something that is evil and
should be avoided because we're rapacious, we use too many resources,
we're too successful, and damn it, we've got too much stuff.
We need to share it with the rest of the
world because of our success.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, and to your point, the people that are saying this,
I call them members of the global cocktail Club.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, you know, they're curson.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Of the private jet of their yacht and harumph and
complain about the little people and their carbon production and
the masses and what needs to be done to them
to get them under their thumb.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, yes, yes, that that is the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And you know, where there is independence, whether it's energy independence,
financial independence, whatever you want to talk about. You have choices,
you have power, you have literally personal independence. That's what
we want. That's what we want for all Americans. That's
what at least that's what we want for all Americans.
(25:32):
And uh, you know, the people running the government, most
of them have never had a private sector job in
their entire life.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And that is the problem.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
When I go to Europe, people have alphabet soup behind
their name, and I'll say, say, so, where have you worked,
And you know what, it's academia, it's government, it's nonprofits.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
There's no private sector experience. And I bet you ran
into a whole lot of word salads when you were
over there in hunt.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Let's pause.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
We'll bring back Brigerman when you get his se He
does have some thoughts on immigration as well, because it
was a topic of conversation when he was in Hungary,
just like it has been here. It's seven point thirty
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We got a high wind advisory kicking in at noon,
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and the high winds are probably going to create some
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Speaker 1 (28:23):
Seven forty one.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It's some forty two fifty five krcity talk station from
the Hudson in steud Brigha mccawan in studio talk about
energy policy since he is the senior Fellow on Innovative
on I'm sorry, the Innovative on American Energy Security Initiative.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Rather so I get it out Brigham. It is.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It is a Friday, but let me pivot. He in
a nuclear We talked earlier, just briefly about the idea
of reopening one of the reactors at three Mile Island
for the purposes of providing Microsoft atdequate electricity for its
artificial intelligence center. Other artificial intelligence centers are popping up
where they similarly need these energy demands. And so now
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it seems that it has opened up the door to
consideration of nuclear power. Oh lo, and behold, all the
time they've been pushing us to rely on a windmill,
I'm screaming over here, what about nuclear power? It doesn't
produce the carbon that they're so worried about. The new
modern nuclear plants are what they call modular, which means
one size fits all. It doesn't have to be individually
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designed and created for any specific location. It's like legos.
You just pick a space, pop it down. We can
deal with the waste. There's not that much waste overall
that comes from nuclear power. I mean, it's it's documented.
They had the yucka Mountain thing. They could have stored
all the nuclear waste in the entire country for one
hundred years and never would have been filled.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Whatever the stats are, the wakay see you years ago?
Tell me I'm wrong? Is anything I said wrong?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
No, you're absolutely right. I eat a national depository and
we have one.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay, Now, moving over our discussion about the reality behind
the Green New Deal is that we're too powerful. We
need to redistribute our wealth, and we have too much stuff.
What about these third world countries? We need to offshore
money and develop them. Nuclear power here in the United
States would eradicate the ability to bring us to our
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knees Economically, we would have all the power we want.
We could be the most powerful, mighty energy producer on
the planet, and we wouldn't be producing a single ounce
or molecule of carbon dioxide.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
That's why they don't want it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
All right, let me give you this is very complicated.
Let me give you a very complicated answer.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yes, so I've been right all along and in my conclusions. Yeah,
and it flies in the face of the reality of
what they really want, which is to bring us down.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It does. And you know, I've got this handy app here.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I was just looking Germany right now, right now, in Germany,
about eighty percent of their electricity.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Is from.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Generation at the moment. Let's go next door to France.
Uh yeah, they're about sixty percent nuclear.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Oh, look at this.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
France is ninety nine percent low carbon producing electricity.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right now because nuclear.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's nuclear, and they have one of the cheapest rates,
their citizens enjoy a very cheap electricity. Sure they're more
expensive to build on the front end, but these things
last a long time.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Fifty years.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We can build one hundred year reactor now it's just
a matter of updating it. So yeah, uh, you know,
I think in retrospect, we've had a couple of things
go on. Three Mile Island certainly is something that people remember,
and it's not that reactor they're restarting, it's the.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
One next one next to right.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And then, uh, modern nuclear actors are different than the
type they had at Three Mile Island.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
If they're different.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
When somebody says three Mile Island Chernobyl Fukushima, we go, well, yeah,
that's like saying I want a nineteen sixty five International
Harvester SUV truck thing. It's different today, and they're far safer,
they use far less uranium or uranium drive products, and
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it's really where we ought to be headed. But we
have an agency that's supposed to permit nuclear facilities that
has spent its entire life as an agency trying not to.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Permit any exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And then the environmental lawsuits come in in these last
ten years and then they have a change in permitting
because somebody in government says no, no, you need to
reapply and it starts to process all over again. So
from start to finish you look at it almost like
two decades to get a nuclear power plant build. That's
the administrative state standing in the way.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It absolutely is in Poland, for example, and in Hungary
a couple other places. They're also moving toward nuclear power.
In the South Koreans, the Japanese and others are actually
getting those contracts because they can actually build a nuclear
plant in a couple of years, and we can do
the same. And one of the proposals we've looked at
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at Hudson I'll talk more about this on my next
episode of Charged Conversations the podcast is we can license
two or three different types of reactors, different sizes, and
once they're licensed.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
You just build the same one. That's the point.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Quit trying to tweak it. You have a license, you
build it. But these data centers, Brian can require anywhere
from one to five gigawatts gigawatts. This isn't like back
to the future. This is real of energy. That could
be two to four nuclear plants just to power a
five gigawatt facility.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And if AI is the future and we don't have
the energy to power AI facilities, I guess they're going
to be in China, then, aren't they. It's the answer
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Speaker 1 (37:46):
What is that app called? Again?
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Because it's fascinating. I mean, you can look at the globe,
how much people are paying, how much carbon production there is,
what type of energy is being generated in any given country,
even on a state by state level here in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, that's certain.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
What you call electricity maps And I just learned about
it a week ago, so I'm still trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But just one word electricitymaps dot com that it. It's well,
it's an app, So you go to your app store.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Oh, okay, fire it up. But I do think you
can go to the website too and electricity map. Yeah,
check it out. It's got a lot of good information.
You can become informed about where your energy.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Comes from well, and just be aware of the backcrop
insanity going on in Europe. Germany cutting its own throat.
And you know when you talk about manufacturing leaving Germany
of the entire European Union, Germany was the powerhouse.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, I think you can take almost every other EU
country and combine it in at equalled Germany. But Germany
has lost a lot of ground. And you know we
have Europeans saying Germany's on its way to becoming an
open air museum. Oh that's heartbreaking, it really is, because
they used to have their act together more.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh Man, when you mentioned manufacturing, the first thing that
would pop in anybody who has any sense of understanding
about the quality. Yeah, Germany was always number one in
terms of quality. Yes, German parts always costed more, but
they had superior quality, superior engineering, and I just we
just can't count on that anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
It's really frustrating.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Even the trains don't run on time now, which is
which is really if you're a German you've been to Germany,
that is like the ultimate insult that the Deutsche Bahn
doesn't work correctly.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, I think you and I both really do know
what's going on. It's global communism, Marxism, socialism, called it,
whatever label you want. Their control over us, depriving us
of what we need to be more comfortable, happier and
more productive and wealthier. That's a no no among those circles.
Briga mccawam. We'll be talking again soon. I hope I'll
be a wonderful weekend. And thanks for spending time in
(39:44):
studio with my listeners and me today, Folks, stick around
After the top of the Air news. Author Tim Rivers
he's going to return. He was on the show in
January to talk about his book American Goulag. We have
some updates to go over with Tim after the top
of the Air news. Hope you can stick around.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
What's wrong with German people thanking?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Sure them there they can change your cards the twenty
twenty four election, It doesn't matter. This is done on
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Fifty five KRC, the talk station this week
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