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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey thirty on a Tuesday. Regular listeners know it is
that time for the Daniel Davis deep dive, tucking to
retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis about, Oh my god, the
whole world's coming unglued almost overnight. The world has changed,
kind of like the fall of the Berlin Wall in Syria.
Welcome back, Daniel Davis. It is a pleasure to have
you on, particularly in these very interesting times.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well interesting times is an understatement, Yeah, it is. It
is a lot of chaos and lots and lots of uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's a fact. Well, and that's the bottom line. Everybody's
got their popcorn out to find out what's going to
happen after the fall of Bashar al Aside obviously he's
been in civil war for thirteen years. The Iranians are
heavily involved, the Russians are heavily involved. You got the
Turkish involvement, you got the Israeli situation because you know
the goal on Heights and the issues there. It's just
in a mess. Charlie Foxtrot I think out of accurately
(00:48):
summarizes it. But Ba Charlot's side bad guy, So nobody's
really that disappointed that he's gone, considering his murderous regime.
But what is gonna fill the void? Here? We had
multiple factions of different organizations, some of them are the
lo most fundamentalists. And okay, so the way I've been
viewing it, and please correct me if you think this
(01:09):
is an inaccurate assessment, the enemy of my enemy is
my friends. You got all these different factions. We are
more than happy to sort of fight collectively the Bashar
al Assad regime. But now that he's gone, who fills
the power void? Yeah, that's exactly the right, one hundred
percent agree with you. I think your assessment is spought
(01:29):
on because we had seen You may recall when the
Obama administration had tried to affect the regime change in
Syria with Bashar al Assade and we were, you know,
funding all these allegedly moderate rebel groups which were nothing
more than offshoots of al Qada and several other kinds
of violent Islamic agreements. But hey, we were engaging in
(01:52):
the friend of my enemy of my enemy is my
friends situation.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So we were funding all these groups. But you famously remember.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That some of the Obama CIA funds went to one group,
some of the Obama Pentagon funds went to another group,
and then they end up turning on each other, and
so they were as distracted as anybody else. Well, this
guy here appears to have figured out how to solve
part of that problem by getting all these different factions
working together, or at least he assembled enough factions that
(02:19):
could effectively work together. And so they did, and then
they started this march. But then because of the absolute
rot of the internal security forces in Syria, they basically
just marched on the capitol, not unlick the Taliban did
against the Afghanistan security forces because of the rot there,
(02:40):
and there wasn't even much fighting, and it was very
similar how those two things came about. But now comes
the real question. This guy is saying. Jolani, the leader
of the HTS that was the umbrella group over all
this has said, you know, hey, we're kind of modern now.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
We just want to govern.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We don't want to start this Islamic caliphaith that's going
to suppress all these people, all these Christians and drus
and you know, other kinds of minorities.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They're fine, we're not going to harm them.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But that's not what he said earlier in his career
in twenty fourteen, he said almost exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So now it's going to depend on what happens later on.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm guessing that he's going to act like a good
guy for now. But we'll see if this coalition holds together,
as you just mentioned, and then we'll see whoever comes out.
Do they still have that same moderate view or do
they go Taliban esque and start changing when they get
into power.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, during this period of absolute dysfunction, I mean I
just talked with Joe Pollock from Breitbart, and the Israelis
retook that base that Siria had and the goal on Heights,
which of course helps Israel in terms of its security.
The Turks now have an opportunity to advance into this
you know, disarray, this this defenseless region, and they've course
(03:51):
had their eyes on the situation for a while. And
the Turks, I understand, will be very influential on a
going forward basis to see who actually comes into power.
Iranians it looks like they pulled the plug. The Russians
looks like they pulled the plug. So you don't have
them coming to the aid of the sad regime. And
I'm not sure where either of those two countries thin
to the equation now, because their hands seem to be full.
(04:15):
I mean, I guess I'm just kind of at a law.
That's why I say, am a popkar. It is going
to be out for a long time on this one.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
See.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Interestingly, so Israel has done more than just you know,
secure the gold on hots. They're actually, as of this morning,
continuing to move closer to Damascus, and we don't know
how far they're going to go yet, how much territory
they're going to take, what they're gonna do with it.
They have been bombing incessantly throughout Syria and destroying all
kinds of ammunition, deposed weapons, e posts, basically just crushing
(04:45):
the ability of anyone to rise up to even use
this for the foreseeable future. Right then in the north
you have the Turks who have been the actual Turkish
army has been making some in roads and they've had
troops in Syria for a long time, and there's Turkish back.
Here's the biggest problem for US is moving more aggressively
against the Syrian democratic forces our proxy. So you have
(05:07):
two NATO countries has proxies going against each other in
the north east part of Syria, and this just has
a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
To go bad.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's already a lot of bad blood between the US
and Turkey on a number of other fronts. And you know,
obviously Turkey and Israel are not on the best of
terms as well. So there's you may need a bucket
of popcorn for this one.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And maybe it's fair exactly well, insofar as the Turks concern,
is this a potential opportunity to perhaps right the ship
a little bit in terms of our relations with Turkey.
Could a Trump administration sort of, you know, diplomatically reach
out in an effort to you know, forestall the Turks
supporting some radical Islamic form of government in Syria.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That's gonna be tough to do, because the air to
one is an opportunities and he will exploit any and
everybody he can, and he'll work with somebody only to
the extent gives him benefit. And if Trump doesn't come
in and have some benefit for him, then he's probably
not very willing to do that. And Trump has got
a difficult task to navigate with the Syrian democratic forces
because does he just say okay, everything that we've done
(06:12):
up to this point, to include when he supported them
during his first term, that now he's just gonna say, okay, well,
aired one wants to so you guys are all on
your own.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We're gonna withdraw all our guys and good luck to
you now.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I will say that that should be the first thing
he does, is withdraw our troops for our sake. But
it's gonna be it's gonna, I don't deny, it's gonna
be a tough play to what do you do with
the Syrian Democratic forces? Do you give them some other
kind of support? Do you negotiate something with AIRED one?
And what if air to one doesn't do it and
they literally kill thousands upon thousands of the Kurds in
that area?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It could get ugly, very ugly. And insofar as israel
I know they've been striking chemical weapons facilities, rocket missile
arsenals to to you know, again, take away any ability
of whatever future government might have to launch it against them.
Some have suggested that by doing so, that frees up
the airspace and gives them free reiin to hit Iran
(07:05):
and maybe wipe out the Iranian nuclear program during this
period of time before Trump's takes over. Any thoughts on
that theory, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
There's I mean practical whether that was the intention or not,
that certainly is the effect because now then there's no
Serian to even worry about what the air defense or
anything else, and they have destroyed much of what might
have existed on top of all the other targets that
they've been servicing. But and you've had Jack Keen on
Fox News a couple of days ago, it recommend exactly
that that Trump should go in and basically go to
(07:34):
war with Iran, which I'm one hundred percent against. That
is not a good play. We do not need to
go to war with Iran. In fact, what all this
has shown is that Iran is substantially weaker than we thought,
and now they're even weaker still the area. Oh, they
are no threat to us, So going to war with
them gains us absolutely nothing and could cost us a
great deal. So we can contain them. We do not
(07:56):
need to go to war with Iran.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, I like hearing that because I don't want to
engage in another war. But let's face it, the Israelis
told the Biden administration where to go. They went and
defended themselves, They went into the uh Uh to Gaza.
They dealt with the the Huthis and the Hama or
Hesbala and Hamas very successfully. So maybe maybe Israel just decides,
(08:20):
you know what, well, Iran is weak, while Siria is decimated,
We're just going to blow up ourselves some nuclear facilities.
So there's that, There's that military angle, But then there's
also the question I have burning in the back of
my head as I read about the Israel strikes on
the on the chemical weapons facilities. Isn't there any collateral
(08:40):
concern about blowing up chemical weapons facilities and releasing the
chemical weapons out into the atmosphere. Same question goes for
radiation when you're bombing all these centrifuges. Is that is
that a legitimate concern?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But that also causes me to to be a little
skeptical that there are all of these chemical weapons factories,
you know, and all the places here, because that's exactly
what you would see you released into the air. It
can't be any other way, and at least so far,
and there's plenty of international organizations that monitor that stuff
that we haven't had any reports of that. I think
all the targets up to this point have genuinely been military.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Targets the regime.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, I'm talking about tanks and artillery pieces, conventional
weapons depots, arms depots, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I don't think that's going on.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I will say though, that don't get too much ahead
of our sales on the Israeli success, because they have
had enormous tactical success, it's spectacularly so. But the medium
and long term issues because none of the issues that
will caused ten to seven, for example, have been resolved,
and a lot of the civilians that have been killed
in Lebanon and in the West Bank, in the Gaza,
(09:52):
there's going to be some medium and long term difficulties
for Israel to have to navigate what's happened as a
result of those.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So they're not out of the woods by any Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. Enjoy talking to you every week, and wow,
we've got an entire year's worth of conversation just sticking
with this one subject matter. You know or maybe not.
We're gonna find out together again. Your bucket of popcorns out,
mine's out, and I will enjoy another conversation with you
next Tuesday. Between now and then, my friend will encourage
(10:19):
my listeners to search for your podcast, Daniel Davis Deep
Dive and tune in next Tuesday for another another discussion.
Take care of my good friend.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Always my pleasure, my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
See next week. Take care. It's a forty fifty five KR.
See the talk station. Got my buddy John Roman coming up.
You're gonna be happy you're hearing hearing from John Roman.
He's this terrific guy and a better way to get
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eight ninety three. Online you can schedule employment and learn
about more of the services they offer, including the maintenance programs,
which is a great idea. It's go Zimmer dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
This is fifty five KRC, an iHeartRadio station.
Hey thirty on a Tuesday. Regular listeners know it is
that time for the Daniel Davis deep dive, tucking to
retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis about, Oh my god, the
whole world's coming unglued almost overnight. The world has changed,
kind of like the fall of the Berlin Wall in Syria.
Welcome back, Daniel Davis. It is a pleasure to have
you on, particularly in these very interesting times.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well interesting times is an understatement, Yeah, it is. It
is a lot of chaos and lots and lots of uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's a fact. Well, and that's the bottom line. Everybody's
got their popcorn out to find out what's going to
happen after the fall of Bashar al Aside obviously he's
been in civil war for thirteen years. The Iranians are
heavily involved, the Russians are heavily involved. You got the
Turkish involvement, you got the Israeli situation because you know
the goal on Heights and the issues there. It's just
in a mess. Charlie Foxtrot I think out of accurately
(00:48):
summarizes it. But Ba Charlot's side bad guy, So nobody's
really that disappointed that he's gone, considering his murderous regime.
But what is gonna fill the void? Here? We had
multiple factions of different organizations, some of them are the
lo most fundamentalists. And okay, so the way I've been
viewing it, and please correct me if you think this
(01:09):
is an inaccurate assessment, the enemy of my enemy is
my friends. You got all these different factions. We are
more than happy to sort of fight collectively the Bashar
al Assad regime. But now that he's gone, who fills
the power void? Yeah, that's exactly the right, one hundred
percent agree with you. I think your assessment is spought
(01:29):
on because we had seen You may recall when the
Obama administration had tried to affect the regime change in
Syria with Bashar al Assade and we were, you know,
funding all these allegedly moderate rebel groups which were nothing
more than offshoots of al Qada and several other kinds
of violent Islamic agreements. But hey, we were engaging in
(01:52):
the friend of my enemy of my enemy is my
friends situation.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So we were funding all these groups. But you famously remember.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That some of the Obama CIA funds went to one group,
some of the Obama Pentagon funds went to another group,
and then they end up turning on each other, and
so they were as distracted as anybody else. Well, this
guy here appears to have figured out how to solve
part of that problem by getting all these different factions
working together, or at least he assembled enough factions that
(02:19):
could effectively work together. And so they did, and then
they started this march. But then because of the absolute
rot of the internal security forces in Syria, they basically
just marched on the capitol, not unlick the Taliban did
against the Afghanistan security forces because of the rot there,
(02:40):
and there wasn't even much fighting, and it was very
similar how those two things came about. But now comes
the real question. This guy is saying. Jolani, the leader
of the HTS that was the umbrella group over all
this has said, you know, hey, we're kind of modern now.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
We just want to govern.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We don't want to start this Islamic caliphaith that's going
to suppress all these people, all these Christians and drus
and you know, other kinds of minorities.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They're fine, we're not going to harm them.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But that's not what he said earlier in his career
in twenty fourteen, he said almost exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So now it's going to depend on what happens later on.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm guessing that he's going to act like a good
guy for now. But we'll see if this coalition holds together,
as you just mentioned, and then we'll see whoever comes out.
Do they still have that same moderate view or do
they go Taliban esque and start changing when they get
into power.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, during this period of absolute dysfunction, I mean I
just talked with Joe Pollock from Breitbart, and the Israelis
retook that base that Siria had and the goal on Heights,
which of course helps Israel in terms of its security.
The Turks now have an opportunity to advance into this
you know, disarray, this this defenseless region, and they've course
(03:51):
had their eyes on the situation for a while. And
the Turks, I understand, will be very influential on a
going forward basis to see who actually comes into power.
Iranians it looks like they pulled the plug. The Russians
looks like they pulled the plug. So you don't have
them coming to the aid of the sad regime. And
I'm not sure where either of those two countries thin
to the equation now, because their hands seem to be full.
(04:15):
I mean, I guess I'm just kind of at a law.
That's why I say, am a popkar. It is going
to be out for a long time on this one.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
See.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Interestingly, so Israel has done more than just you know,
secure the gold on hots. They're actually, as of this morning,
continuing to move closer to Damascus, and we don't know
how far they're going to go yet, how much territory
they're going to take, what they're gonna do with it.
They have been bombing incessantly throughout Syria and destroying all
kinds of ammunition, deposed weapons, e posts, basically just crushing
(04:45):
the ability of anyone to rise up to even use
this for the foreseeable future. Right then in the north
you have the Turks who have been the actual Turkish
army has been making some in roads and they've had
troops in Syria for a long time, and there's Turkish back.
Here's the biggest problem for US is moving more aggressively
against the Syrian democratic forces our proxy. So you have
(05:07):
two NATO countries has proxies going against each other in
the north east part of Syria, and this just has
a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
To go bad.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's already a lot of bad blood between the US
and Turkey on a number of other fronts. And you know,
obviously Turkey and Israel are not on the best of
terms as well. So there's you may need a bucket
of popcorn for this one.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And maybe it's fair exactly well, insofar as the Turks concern,
is this a potential opportunity to perhaps right the ship
a little bit in terms of our relations with Turkey.
Could a Trump administration sort of, you know, diplomatically reach
out in an effort to you know, forestall the Turks
supporting some radical Islamic form of government in Syria.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That's gonna be tough to do, because the air to
one is an opportunities and he will exploit any and
everybody he can, and he'll work with somebody only to
the extent gives him benefit. And if Trump doesn't come
in and have some benefit for him, then he's probably
not very willing to do that. And Trump has got
a difficult task to navigate with the Syrian democratic forces
because does he just say okay, everything that we've done
(06:12):
up to this point, to include when he supported them
during his first term, that now he's just gonna say, okay, well,
aired one wants to so you guys are all on
your own.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We're gonna withdraw all our guys and good luck to
you now.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I will say that that should be the first thing
he does, is withdraw our troops for our sake. But
it's gonna be it's gonna, I don't deny, it's gonna
be a tough play to what do you do with
the Syrian Democratic forces? Do you give them some other
kind of support? Do you negotiate something with AIRED one?
And what if air to one doesn't do it and
they literally kill thousands upon thousands of the Kurds in
that area?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It could get ugly, very ugly. And insofar as israel
I know they've been striking chemical weapons facilities, rocket missile
arsenals to to you know, again, take away any ability
of whatever future government might have to launch it against them.
Some have suggested that by doing so, that frees up
the airspace and gives them free reiin to hit Iran
(07:05):
and maybe wipe out the Iranian nuclear program during this
period of time before Trump's takes over. Any thoughts on
that theory, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
There's I mean practical whether that was the intention or not,
that certainly is the effect because now then there's no
Serian to even worry about what the air defense or
anything else, and they have destroyed much of what might
have existed on top of all the other targets that
they've been servicing. But and you've had Jack Keen on
Fox News a couple of days ago, it recommend exactly
that that Trump should go in and basically go to
(07:34):
war with Iran, which I'm one hundred percent against. That
is not a good play. We do not need to
go to war with Iran. In fact, what all this
has shown is that Iran is substantially weaker than we thought,
and now they're even weaker still the area. Oh, they
are no threat to us, So going to war with
them gains us absolutely nothing and could cost us a
great deal. So we can contain them. We do not
(07:56):
need to go to war with Iran.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, I like hearing that because I don't want to
engage in another war. But let's face it, the Israelis
told the Biden administration where to go. They went and
defended themselves, They went into the uh Uh to Gaza.
They dealt with the the Huthis and the Hama or
Hesbala and Hamas very successfully. So maybe maybe Israel just decides,
(08:20):
you know what, well, Iran is weak, while Siria is decimated,
We're just going to blow up ourselves some nuclear facilities.
So there's that, There's that military angle, But then there's
also the question I have burning in the back of
my head as I read about the Israel strikes on
the on the chemical weapons facilities. Isn't there any collateral
(08:40):
concern about blowing up chemical weapons facilities and releasing the
chemical weapons out into the atmosphere. Same question goes for
radiation when you're bombing all these centrifuges. Is that is
that a legitimate concern?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But that also causes me to to be a little
skeptical that there are all of these chemical weapons factories,
you know, and all the places here, because that's exactly
what you would see you released into the air. It
can't be any other way, and at least so far,
and there's plenty of international organizations that monitor that stuff
that we haven't had any reports of that. I think
all the targets up to this point have genuinely been military.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Targets the regime.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, I'm talking about tanks and artillery pieces, conventional
weapons depots, arms depots, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I don't think that's going on.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I will say though, that don't get too much ahead
of our sales on the Israeli success, because they have
had enormous tactical success, it's spectacularly so. But the medium
and long term issues because none of the issues that
will caused ten to seven, for example, have been resolved,
and a lot of the civilians that have been killed
in Lebanon and in the West Bank, in the Gaza,
(09:52):
there's going to be some medium and long term difficulties
for Israel to have to navigate what's happened as a
result of those.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So they're not out of the woods by any Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. Enjoy talking to you every week, and wow,
we've got an entire year's worth of conversation just sticking
with this one subject matter. You know or maybe not.
We're gonna find out together again. Your bucket of popcorns out,
mine's out, and I will enjoy another conversation with you
next Tuesday. Between now and then, my friend will encourage
(10:19):
my listeners to search for your podcast, Daniel Davis Deep
Dive and tune in next Tuesday for another another discussion.
Take care of my good friend.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Always my pleasure, my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
See next week. Take care. It's a forty fifty five KR.
See the talk station. Got my buddy John Roman coming up.
You're gonna be happy you're hearing hearing from John Roman.
He's this terrific guy and a better way to get
medical insurance saving the heat loads of money. And I
Meantimesimmer Zimmer Heating and air Conditioning. They got the HVAC
(10:49):
system twenty two one hundred dollars savings on the Carrier
Comfort System, brand new Carrier Comfort System from Zimmer Heating
and Cooling. So if yours is belly up or it's
on its last leg, you can see that coming. Why
not take advantage? I mean, I call twenty two hundred
bucks a lot of money and Zimmer it can help
out their customers for more than seventy five years. Third
(11:09):
generation and family ownership and an operation. You give Chris
Simmer a call, they will take great care of you.
Safe efficient, comfortable. That's what your house will be. And
we all know about emergency situations. You don't want an
emergency situation, but if you do, you just call carrier
and set that up. They'll be happy to take care
of it twenty four hours day, seven days a week.
(11:29):
So turn to the experts at Zimmer and get that
cool carrier, warm carrier. In this case, comfort rebate twenty
two hundred dollars. Christomber can be reached to five one
three five two one ninety eight ninety three. Tell them
I said Hi. Five one three five two one ninety
eight ninety three. Online you can schedule employment and learn
about more of the services they offer, including the maintenance programs,
which is a great idea. It's go Zimmer dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
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