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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your talk, your morning news on the way to work
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Day in fault check in throughout the day fifty.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Five k r C D talkstation coming up on eight
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Bright Time. I was fishing everyone a very happy Tuesday.
And thanks again to Dan Carroll for covering for me yesterday.
Oh it is a pleasure having him cover and I
know it is a wonderful job and understanding he had

(00:28):
a conversation with Brad Winsterp yesterday, so I'm gonna have
to go back and check out that podcast. You can
find that at fifty five KRC dot com. Also my
conversation with Christopher Smithman Orlandossanza on at the last hour
at seven oh five on immigration. And right now it
is time every Tuesday, at this time we get the
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(00:49):
r T dot com. Great reporting there, most notably by
Joel Pollock, who's return of the program to help us
unfold the fall of the shar Ali sade in Syria.
Welcome Joel in a very happy Tuesday. Tell you good
to heavy back on great with very complicated situation unfolding
in Syria. It's like the fall of the Berlin Wall.

(01:09):
What's next? Bscharlisad, obviously an extremely violent and murderous individual,
has been involved in a civil war in his country
now for going on thirteen years. It seems like there's
multiple factions that have been fighting against them, and it
looks to be like one of those the enemy of
my enemy is my friend. So while you had everyone
sort of uniformly going after Basharlasad and fighting him and

(01:33):
his collectives, backed by Iran and Russia, looks like Iran
and Russia both kind of pulled the plug on their
support and that led to the almost immediate fall of Basharlisad.
He apparently has now fled to Russia, who's giving him
a sanctuary. But what becomes of Syria now that these
multiple factions are now seemingly left sort of in charge.

(01:57):
We've got a while to work this all out, Joel.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, Syria is a disaster. It's going to continue to
be a disaster, but at least it won't be a
disaster that helps Iran. And what's been happening over the
last forty eight hours since the Assad regime fell has
been a number of things. First of all, you've got
the rebels trying to consolidate power, and they're going to

(02:25):
Assad's prisons. They're opening them, emptying them. Political prisoners are
being released. This is the part that people are celebrating
because Assad ran these torture prisons. There are Lebanese Christians
who were imprisoned in Assad's jails for decades after being
arrested in Lebanon for activism against Syria, because the Syrian

(02:46):
regime occupied Lebanon for a long time. So there are
some scenes of rejoicing and so forth. At the same time,
there are reports of attacks and atrocities and other incidents happening,
especially in the minority communities in Syria. The Asad regime
was terrible for everybody, but he posed as a protector

(03:07):
of Christians and other minorities. He himself was not a Muslim.
He was from a minority sect called the Alowhites, who
lived primarily on the coast. So the Syrian regime said
that it protected minorities. Of course, as I mentioned earlier,
they imprisoned Lebanese Christians and were certainly not kind to
the Jewish minority in Syria which fled, but there have

(03:31):
been a lot of concerns about the fate of the Kourds,
the Christians and the Alohites and so forth. And then
you've got Israel, which is using the vacuum of power
in Syria to destroy whatever is left of the Syrian military.
Israel has been conducting hundreds of air raids every day.
According to reports, the flight of F fifteen aircraft is

(03:52):
just constant over Israel, as the Israeli Air Force takes
off almost as soon as it lands to go bomb
something else in Syria, avoiding civilians, which is why you're
not hearing about civilian casualties in Israeli bombing. They're even
avoiding the rebels. They're not avoiding they're not attacking the
rebel military. They're not attacking troops, but they are attacking
equipment and they're attacking chemical weapons production facilities. So what

(04:18):
they're doing is they're removing any threats that the rebels
might be able to get these weapons into their hands,
and they're also removing any air defenses that Syria might
use to defend Iran from a potential strike on Iran's
nuclear program. There is a possibility that given that there
are only about five weeks left, but before President Trump

(04:38):
takes office five or six weeks that Israel may use
that period to knock out Iran's nuclear program. Iran is
now defenseless. They've lost Hesbala, They've lost Syria, They've lost
Hamas after starting a war with Israel on October seventh
last year through Hamas. So Israel is now going to
take the opportunity to make sure that Iran can never

(05:00):
become a nuclear power. Potentially, but Iran has no air
defenses and now it has no advanced warning. In Syria,
the Israeli Air Force dominates the Syrian skies and will
do so for the foreseeable future. I'll tell you something
really interesting. Less than three weeks ago, I was in
Israel and I was standing on the slopes of a
mountain called Mount Ramon. There are two mountains in northeastern Israel,

(05:22):
and the goal on heights. One is called Carmon. One
is called Hard Dove or Mountain Dove. Mountain Dove is
a flashpoint between Israel and Hesbola had been attacking places
on Mountain Dove, and in fact, a couple days after
I was there, there was a drone attack on the
troops that I had been with. But Mount Caramone is
an even higher peak. The Israelis have a military base
on the side of Mount Carmon, and the Syrians for

(05:44):
over fifty years had a military base on the top
on the very peak, So the top of Mount Cremone
was Syrian on. That was under an agreement to end
the nineteen seventy three war that Syria started with Israel.
On Sunday, the Israeli special forces took the peak of
the mountain, and the Israelis now take They now occupy

(06:06):
the peak of Mount Armon, So the Israelis have that
peak of the mountain that I was standing on. I
was just on the on the side near the peak,
but not at the top. So now they have that mountain,
which is crucial for Israel's defense against drones and rockets
and so forth flying in from Lebanon and from other places.
So I don't think the israel Is going to give
back that territory.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
No, no, they will. If I had to make a prediction,
I put it all in on them keeping the entire
to the goal on heights that is strategically, that's why
Israel needs it because it looks down over the country
and it represents an easy opportunity for anybody with rockets
military base up there to launch an attack on Israel.
So the strategic significance cannot be understated. But let me

(06:48):
let me ask you this. I've been kind of puzzling
over this and just wanted to get your reaction, Joe
Pollock Head. The Iranians not and I presume on some
level the Iranians approve the attack coming out of the
of Gods on Israel. Had that October attack not occurred,
would this situation be where we are today in Syria? Well,

(07:15):
did they undermine the day?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Wouldn't have because the October seventh attack prompted Israel to
respond by declaring that this would never be able to
happen again. In order to do that, Israel had to
take out the threats on its borders. So no one
would like to say that the October seventh attack was
a good thing, but it did force the issue. I

(07:37):
will say this also, it wasn't necessary that things happened
in precisely the way they did. But had the Biden
Harrison administration been stronger in its response, had they allowed
Israel to do what it needed to do. Had they
also put pressure on Iran instead of sending billions of
dollars to Iran, then October seventh itself might never have happened.

(08:00):
So you know how much further fact do you want
to go? But you know, this wouldn't have happened and
didn't happen under Donald Trump. Not that aside, again would
have been good to keep in power either. It's just
that what happened here was the Uranian regime was able
to do whatever it wanted to do because the Biden

(08:22):
Harris administration allowed it to. And the only reason that
you're seeing has Wella defeated and the Syrian regime collapsing
is because the ordinary Israeli decided they were never going
to allow this to happen again. It wasn't like Nishennawu decided.
In fact, when I was in Israel and October twenty
twenty three, just after the October seventh attack, I talked
to people who were joining their reserve units going to

(08:45):
the military after the call up. They were preparing to
go into Gaza, and the determination of the Israeli people
to make sure Hamas could never harm them again was
so strong that if they didn't invade Gaza, and remember
they hadn't gone in at that point, they didn't in
vague Gaza. I felt like the army would have turned around,
gone back to Jerusalem, overthrown Nitsa Yahoo, and then gone

(09:06):
into Gaza. But yeah, the Israeli people keep in mind
also who's fighting in these wars. So Israel has a
very small, regular professional army. It's an army of conscripts.
Everybody goes. To call it an army of conscripts is
to belittle the enthusiasm with which Israelis go to the military.
Aside from religious Israelis and a few others, many Israelis

(09:28):
are very pleased to go to the military. They're drafted,
they have to go, but they're very excited to go.
And people serve in the reserve units until their mid forties.
So a lot of the fighting right now is being
done by dads with small children, who have jobs and careers,
and some of them even live overseas. They may be
working in the United States and Europe. They get the

(09:49):
call up, they go home, and they leave their families
for months at a time. Those are the men and
sometimes women who have won the war. They are just
determined never to allow the situation to happen again. So
the face of the Middle East has really been changed,
not firecturbery seventh necessarily, but by the sheer determination of
the Israeli people to survive and to make sure that

(10:12):
they can never be attacked again.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, and I certainly understand that and is an amazing
thing to behold. I guess in many respects, I kind
of think about like the Ukrainians and they've called up
and got literally every person who's still alive to join
the army to try to defend the country with obviously
not a whole lot of success right now. But moving
back over to Israel and the situation in Syria, I'm

(10:35):
wondering how much influence we have, the Turkish influence, because
they have a vested interest in making sure their border
with Syria is secure, and maybe whatever future administration runs Syria,
they're going to have some involvement with it. Iranians look
like they're completely out of it. The Russians looks like
they're completely out of it. I guess I just wonder,
you know what future lies in store for Syria because

(10:58):
these rebel forces, lot of Islamic fundamentalists in there, which
is not a good thing for Israel and a lot
of the other countries that are surrounding it.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, we don't know what the future is to Syria.
The likeliest future is that it remains a disunited, divided place.
The Turks are going to probably take some kind of
territory that they want to come to the Kurt. The
Israelis have moved their military, as I said, onto the
peak of the mountain and the buffer zone that used

(11:28):
to exist between Israel and Syria because they need to
protect themselves against the rebels. And who knows whether this
Islamist ragtag bunch can administer the country. I mean, if
you had to make a prediction, you would probably predict
that it ends up in civil war for quite some time,
because there are a variety of factions there. Yeah, and

(11:51):
you know the problem is, I mean this morning's headline
in political the Biden Harris administration is thinking of changing
the terrorist designation the group that actually overthrew the regime
or the rebel group that led the rebellion. You know,
this is a terrible idea. The same mistake they made
with the hutis the fact that they want a country

(12:11):
doesn't make them any less terrorists. You know these people.
The leader is a guy named al Jabulani, which in
Hebrew is al Golani. But he wasn't even born in Syria,
but his parents are Syrian and he traces his roots.
He says to the Golan, which tells you he's not
going to stop at Damascus. He wants to take the
Golan back from Israel, which Israel will never give back

(12:32):
because it is such an important strategic territory. So the
rebels clearly are trying to cause trouble. It's going to
be a mass in Syria for quite some time. And
you know, it troubles me that the first instinct of
the US under Democratic Party rule is to throw a
bunch of money at them and hope it helps them.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, who will be arming this dysfunctional, disparate, ragtag group
of various factstions. I mean again, I just I sort
of maybe overstating the case. Iranian pulled, the Iranians pull
the plug. The Russians pulled the plug. They were You know,
I'm in large part responsible for a lot of the
arms and weapons shipping in If the rest of the

(13:14):
world just just says, hey, you know, you know, we're
not going to give any weapons of the Syrian rebels,
and that would just be the end of it, wouldn't it.
They couldn't launch any major offensive against Israel, or take
back the goal on Heights, or fight off the Turks,
as the case may be. They would just be a
sort of a dysfunctional, impoverished third world country, wouldn't they.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, the Turks are very much involved there. The Turks
are probably going to make sure that these rebels continue
to receive arms. Really we need to reevaluate, Yeah, we
need to reevaluate our relationship with Turkey. They have been
supportive of Sunni terrorism, particularly against Israel. They have hosted
the Hamas leaders, they have given rhetorical supports and other

(13:59):
forms of support to Hamas, and they're also behind the
Syrian rebels. You know, Yes, Israel destroyed has Bola, leaving
the Asad regime defenseless. And that's not why Israel did it.
Israel did it because Hesbola attacked it, right, But but
it's also the fact that the Syrian rebels got a
lot of help from the Turks and that Airdwon sees

(14:20):
himself as a leader of a Sunni Islamist revival, and
the Turks may be involved in Syria in a very
deep and nefarious way. So you know, that's why Israel
is basically taking a buffer zone, even though you know,
the odd thing is that Israel and Turkey until Airedione,
were actually good allies. But Airedwan, because he's an Islamist,

(14:43):
does not want to work and play nicely with Israel,
so he's basically making advances in Syria. The United States
has interests there. We have troops there to counter ISIS,
but there are some ISIS branches that are involved in
the Syrian rebels, so we're probably going to have to
maintain some presence there. Trump may say he wants to
pull them out. That could happen, but then what happens
to the Kurage, who have been our allies against ISIS.

(15:04):
So look, it's going to be a mess. The only
thing I can tell you is that Iran has lost.
Iran has lost the most important forward buffer and staging
base that it had for its terrorist operations. The Iranian
regime is very, very vulnerable. The Iranian people are great
friends of America, and it would be incredible if the

(15:26):
regime would somehow disappear and a new pro Western government
would take over in Iran. Then we'd have a real
ally there to help counter the threats that might emerge
from disorganized Syria. But we'll see. For the meantime, Israel
is destroying whatever military assets the rebels might have hoped
to get their hands on, and we'll just have to see.

(15:48):
The Biden administration again, of course, is trying to shovel
money at them. You know, if humanitarian aid, let's get
some eight. You know, this is the same mistake they
made with the UTIs. They took the uties off the
terroorri lists so they could send Yemen a bunch of money,
and look what happened. People like you were screaming, you
can't do this, you can't do this. We've got a
US Navy base across the Strait from yeah, and you
know they're gonna and of course they disrupted international shipping

(16:10):
and continue to do so. So you know, there's no
sense of reality among the bureaucratsy staff these Democratic party administrations.
But we'll have to just see.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Really makes you wonder why ultimately, Joel Paulocke Brightbart dot
Com book market, Joel, I love having you on the program.
I appreciate your thoughtful insight and we all have our
you know, metaphorical popcorn out as we wait to see
what happens in Syria. We'll talk again real soon and
keep up the great.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Work at Breitbart, all right, thanks so much.

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