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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Ato five, the fifty five KRS the talk station. Happy Wednesday,
so please to get the late edition of my next guest.
He's been on before, Jared Nod And he has a
numerous articles published in National Magazine, alongside some of America's
most famous writers, American Greatness Magazine, Human Events Magazine, The
Mensa Bulletin, The American Thinker, and BPR. A decorated combat
infantry officer in Vietnam and the first Cavalry Division civilian career,
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he served as vice president of Sales and Marketing and
marketing director and Home improvement Industry and thank you for
your service for our country. Last time he was on
the program, we talked about his prior first book, Tiny Blunders,
Big Disasters thirty nine Tiny Mistakes that Change the World Forever.
Now we have volume two, Tiny Blunders, Big Disasters Book two,
the many Tiny Mistakes that Change the World Forever. Welcome
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back to the fifty five KRS Morning Show, Jared not
It's a pleasure to have.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You on, AM. I just an honor to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I was laughing. I know you're a MENSA member, and
so I've been a member for twenty years, and the
only time I ever bring it up is in the
context of self deprecation self deprecating moments when I point
out that, you know, yeah, I'm a member of MENSA,
but I'm still an idiot. It just depends on what
category you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, my wife would agree with you, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I know, well you married smart. I'm sure you did anyway.
I first off, these things I love, these books, just
absolutely amazing. We're going given to a couple of illustrations.
What people are going to find in here surprising and
quite often somewhat humorous. How do you research, let's talk about,
for example, the end of the Roman Empire. You can
explain to my listeners the context for this, but how
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do you research something like this? And what brought up
the idea of adding that one to tiny Blunder's Big disasters?
What led you to the breakdown of why this small
issue ended up well bringing the end of the Roman Empire?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yes, well, my I have I tell people that my
mind is a trash bin of and I may forget
where I put my keys, but I can remember stuff
I read thirty forty fifty years ago, and I read
that story long time ago about to say somebody forgetting
to close and lock the gate of one of the
one of the major defensive walls of the fortress there
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was then it was Constantinoble And so then I go
back and research it online. And that's one thing about
writing a book today is that you had this great,
wonderful library available at your at your fingertips. And it's
an interneing story. And Lee al Musk's been on a
tweet about two years ago from a cartoon of like
a soldier in bed and he's had a bubble above
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his head that says, did I remember to lock that gate? Okay?
He send that out here kind of an old jail
kind of thing where the people in Turkey were kind
of offended by the whole thing. But anybody that brings up, yes,
a tiny mistake back in the fourteen fifty three, and
it was great pivotal in world history when Constantinoble fell
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name has now changed of course to Istanbul. That the
Ottoman Empire took over that part of the world and
the Silk Road going to the far east was closed. Well,
then the people in Europe were desperate to get spices,
which motivated that Christopher Columbus to persuade that the Spandings
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to get them three ships to sail directly west to
try to find the spice Island's been going west as
opposed to going down the Silk Road. Of course, that
set off a whole big discovery of the New World, etc.
That's a whole big story in itself. By the way,
they marvelous mistake Christopher Columbus is an interesting story in itself,
But that was triggered because of the fall of Constantinople
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and also another big factor of why the fortress fell.
Magnificently designed and built fortress had three different the walls
made of brick, and up until that time fortresses were
solid and strolling and difficult to defeat. But so one
of the very first time cannon were brought into use,
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and they had a great, big, gigantic bronze cannon cannon.
It was like twenty seven feet long, and it was
what they call a bombard, and that means it shot
the big stone with a great big, one ton round
rock was fired from the cannon would go about a
mile and bound hit the walls of the city and
it started battering them down, So that along with the
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mistake was a factor. Also the black plague and wiped
out a large amount of the population. They only had
about seven thousand defenders eighty thousand attackers. That was another factor.
And all that came together. By the way, the canon
later flew up and killed the men who were operating it.
So it was an interesting picture of that great big thing.
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They still have a sample of some of those old cannons,
great big, gigantic things. That's an interesting story in itself,
but anyway, major turning point in history, but it might
not have faught. You don't know. There are different factors.
Right If somebody member to a close and locked the
damn gate. Yeah, so that's a tiny bunder that calls
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a huge news change in the direction of that history.
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That reminds me of the story from your first book,
Tiny Blunders, Big Disasters, thirty nine Mistakes that the soldier
who kicked a helmet off a wall which ultimately resulted
in an empire following. That's worth reading too for my
listeners who don't have a copy of that book. You're
going to want to get it as well. What's the
funniest one? I mean, if you had describe something in
terms of a mistake or a blunder, what's the funniest
one you encountered in your second book here?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, and it's actually when my book. And I think
of myself as a cheerful, happy person, okay, but my book,
by its great nature, is kind of negative. We're talking
about mistakes only it's a big disaster. But this one
was a tiny mistake that had a marvelous outcome. And
I begin by saying that Professor Fleming was a slob.
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You might even see a total slob. And he's sort
of like the patron saint and role model for slobs everywhere.
And I have a wife, but he's identified with him.
But anyway, he was with the professor in the Saint
Mary's Hospital in London in nineteen twenty eight, okay, and
he kept this messy laboratory and he's going to go
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to his home the country of Scotland for vacation. Okay.
He has a lot of dirty dishes, in this case
petri dishes mirrored with bacteria. But he just leaves him
there and his lab not much from this stacked up
fire lined up on the table. By the way, very important.
He opens up a window, leaves the window wide open
into his laboratory. The two weeks that he's gone, well,
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what happens is a spore comes in through the window,
they think, and lands right in one of the petrie dishes.
We're kind of spoor where it comes back from Scotland.
And he starts to clean the dishes and lo and behold,
right in the middle of the petrie dish is a
penicillin mole spore which has killed all of the bacteria
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around it. Is a clear space all around it starting
getting fluffy, it's growing, it's prospering right there in the
middle of the bacteria, killing all of the bacteria around him.
And there's, by the way, a big war taking place
in the microscopic world between bowls and between between bacteria,
between the viruses, just like the jungles of Africa, killing
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each other and wiping each other out, and the penicilline
bowls on further examinations is able to cause the wall
of bacteria to break to burst, and then the entire
cell structures and it's destroyed. Well anyway, so Fleming follows
through is able to. It's hard to grow. That penaione
that gets to grow, gets the Jews and confirms his findings,
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publishes it into a new newspaper, a journal, a medical journal,
is ignored for ten years, but then ten years later
it's picked up by the people of Oxford, and step
by step by step, that initial breakthrough leads to the
development of the medicine of penicilla, the world's first antibiotic.
It is saved over a half a billion lives, and
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that's a conservative estimate. And the entire field of anabahotics
took place because of that sloppy a lot of parvatory
in Saint Mary's House of nineteen twenty eight. Thank gosh,
you was such a sloppy person, or no telling where
we would be.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And I'm sure there's someone other going No, that was
divine intervention. God put that spore there for a reason.
But you think about that led to, as you point out,
antibiotic research generally speaking, and if you look at all
of the lives saved by all of the antibiotics out
there the world, you probably couldn't even count that high.
A huge well, and then the hundreds and hundreds of
million we're talking with with Jared Notd, author of Tiny
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Blunder's Big Disasters book too. The flip side of that, though,
is the mistake that led to over well costing the
lives of millions of people worldwide. Is that a reference
to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, that's another mistake in the laboratory. And I'd say
in the last one hundred years two of the biggest
developments in medicine took place as the result of mistakes
in the laboratory. One very very good, that one very bad.
And of course it was exactly right, even though it
was denied by Anthony Thauci. The evidence is pretty so
beyond agrees and the NY Department degrees and the evidence
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is pretty solid. But yes, a mistake in the Wolhan
lab led to a what's called gain of function virus.
What they did they take two different viruses and they
combine them and it's much more aggressive than the original
virus was by itself. And that's very very dangerous research.
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A lot of the virologists there are always warned against
doing it at all. And he found she said, no,
I think the main information to be gained is worth
the risk, and he was paying for gain of function
research and the Wulhon lab back in about going back
about eight nine, ten years ago in that range. Well,
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sure enough they were warned that their lably could cause
it aster. Was sure enough they had a lab leak,
and Anthony about you, brilliant man that he is, came
up with this counter theory. Oh no, it came from
the fish market over there into Gohan market. Well no,
the evidence is pointing heavily in the other direction though.
It was a lab leak, and that the United States
taxpayers had been funding that kind of research in Wohan.
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And look at the disaster. We have the exact numbers.
Hard to say. They say that India has downplayed their numbers.
China's downplay their numbers. It may be well over ten
fifteen billion by now, it's certainly at least seven billion,
but it maybe ten or fifteen million. We're not done yet,
So that's a lab mistake.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Thatch was was disastrous, without question, And let's pivot over.
I kind of laughed about the events surrounding the sinking
of the bis Mark. The Bismark didn't really have to sing.
Follow orders is a simple rule that you can learn
from this blunder.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yes, that's right, that's very interesting. The German captain so
by the way, was admitted to a lady who was
half a jillious and he had actually taken a stand
to something against the Hitler and the abuse of Jews.
But because of the Citus dead officer, he was allowed
to stay in the navy and was not prosecuted. But
anyway considered very good cats and overall, but he had
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England is very very dependent on convoys coming to it
to give it the petroleum, to give it to food,
et cetera. Being an isolated island and World War two
that was just critically important. Did the convoys stay open
coming from the United States, in particular, their purpose of
the Bismarck was to go into the North Atlantic and
to begin attacking those vital convoys. The British were extremely
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concerned what the damage they could do. So they're monitoring it.
They're monitoring, and it broke out into the North Atlantic
and they began to close in agressive as they could.
The HMS Hood, which was the pride of the British Navy,
closes with the Bismark to Bismark in just a few
minutes he's able to sink the hood. There was a
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weakness and the design of the hood. It's central ducks
were not well reinforced around. Hit the center part of
the ship, hit the armory down below, blows up the
ship in just a few minutes to survivor or something
like that. Huge huge blow to British pride and a
huge blow to the British Navy. Well, then they have
a number of ships chasing the birs Market and it's
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going in the Sound AND's big storms there in the
North Atlantic, and the Bismark is turning to the left,
turning to a port, and it's turning to the right
to starboard, left, right, left, and then swings the right,
and he just keeps on calling to the right and
goes to the west and then circles back to the North. Well,
the British loses the mark. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh,
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they got the business mark loose, and the North Atlantic
didn't know what it is and how they out find it.
But the captain makes a critical mistake. He breaks radio silence.
Now he's warned by his headquarters back in France radio
to him, we think you've lost the British Navy do
not use the radio maintained radio silence, and he had
li respect for those people. They don't know what to
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talk about and never did trust him go pound sand
so keeps on using breaking radio silent and the British
turnout pick up this signal. They are able to triangulate
and then able to now start. They found them again,
they start, come again once again, and ultimately it led
to the British the ship being sucked another The old
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tiny mistake is kind of funny. It was that planes
off of the British carrier Arc Royal. They were attacking
these bismarket by dropping torpedoes against it. And these oh
World War one biplanes can only fly at ninety miles
an hour. Well, the targeting systems on board the bismark
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were only manufactured designed to go down to one hundred
and fifteen miles an hour, so the planes were too
slow for them to target very well to come in
and they wanted to COPEDO gets real lucky. It hits
the rudder of the Buszmark which cripples it and you
can only go in circles. Then they're able to sink it.
But if they had better targeting systems. Let's say they
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go down to eighty miles an hour if they had
not broken radio silence and serious sense that the Buzmark
might have gotten away right, the follow orders and toe
the line, and you're better off.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Tiny blunders, big disaster's book too, the many tiny mistakes
that change the world forever. My guests today, Jared Not
and get the first book wire at it. I always
mean this with absolute praise. Would you characterize this as
a bathroom book? It's easy to get through a little
story and then you pick it up later and move on.
Is that type of book it is set out?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes, unlike a novel, we have to go from the
beginning all the way to the end. You can just
send through it, pick out the stories and thirty forty
stories to pick out the ones you like the best
and read those, come back to the others later or
whatever like that. So it's the fun went to have
sitting there next to the john, like you say, and
just take out a story each time you get it,
you want to sit down and depending on how long
the story is and how long the proof is, take
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your pick.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I love it that way, Jared and Not, I thank
you spending time my listeners with me. Thanks for writing
the book, and my listeners can easily get a copy
just going over to fifty five Karsey dot com. There's
a link that'll take them to where they'll buy the book.
Jared not looking forward to volume three.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
My friend, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
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