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December 10, 2024 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Seven o five fifty five cares De Talk Station. Brian Thomas,
glad to be back on a nice three day weekend.
Thanks a Dan Carpher covering for me, and so happy
and many in most respects to welcome my next guest,
Orlando Sons, and I wish I was welcome and welcoming
him to congratulat him on his victory in the most
recent elections. Sadly he ran in Hamilton County and my

(00:36):
listeners are painfully aware the direction Hamilton County has gone.
We didn't get Melissa Powers elected, Jarreff Neil didn't get elected,
and of course one of the finest candidates that was
running this year, Orlando Sons, that went down as well.
But I'm happy to have you back on. I read
your op ed piece, Orlando Sons at excellent President Donald
Trump's plan to fix immigration is what we need op

(00:56):
ed which was in the Washington Reporter. Peace, welcome back
to Orlando. I hope you and your family are doing well.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Brian, Thanks for having me. Always great to be on Well.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's always a pleasure to talk with you. Such an
intelligent man and someone who knows a lot about immigration
because you are the product of legal immigration, which you
and I and I think most of my listening audience
embrace go through the process legally. It perhaps is a
little bit long and drawn out. It's difficult, it's challenging.
Perhaps there are some hurdles we can get rid of,
but in the final analysis, that allows our country to

(01:30):
do what it's supposed to do, which is manage its
own best interest when you have an open border. Obviously
it brings about lots of problems. Many cities are experiencing those,
and as you're out ed Peace points out, it's costing
the American tax bears a heap load of money. Orlando
Sonza's right, Brian, and listen, going back to November fifth,

(01:51):
let's just celebrate the wins up in that night.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We took back the White House. Isn't that right, Brian?
We are sending Donald Trump back to the White House,
and he's going to fix the many problems that our
country is facing right now, immigration one of them. We
have taken back the United States Senate and sent our
good friend Bernie Marino to the US Senate for Ohio,
and we've held the majority now, albeit slim. You know,

(02:14):
I wish it was the other way in the US House.
But listen, we've got all three of the key crucial
bodies in order to pass good legislation, and especially when
it comes to fixing our immigration problem. I mean, you
laid it out clearly, Brian, and we've been talking about
this for this last year. Immigration, illegal immigration, what it's

(02:35):
done to this country, in the financial burden it's caused,
in the national security concerns, it's raised, the human trafficking
has gone up, Fenton hal has gone up in terms
of the illegal drug trade finding its way to Southwest Ohio.
How are we going to fix it? Well? President Trump
ran on a platform of how he's going to secure
the southern border on day one, and then he is

(02:58):
going to make sure that at the fifteen plus illegal
immigrants that are in this country that we actually, through
a priority list, send back to their home country those
that should not be here. And that's what I laid
out in my op ed that President Trump's plan is
clear that the first and foremost the criminals that have
committed violent acts in our country broken our laws in

(03:21):
the southern border, broken our laws even right here in
Southwest Ohio. Some of them that I prosecuted as a
former assistant prosecutor at the Prosecutors Office Hamilton County. They're leaving.
They're gone because we don't want them here. Certainly, we
don't want them wreaking havoc just like we've seen the
last four years. And then it goes on from there.
I mean, visa overstays accounting for forty percent of illegal immigration. Look,

(03:46):
this comes down to, Brian, are we going to be
a country of laws again? Are we going to uphold
the rule of law? And Donald Trump is going to
do that. Tom Homan at the Helm as the Borders
are is going to make sure that that's done. But
we're going to do it in a way that welcomes
immigration the way it should be. Legal, safe, you bring

(04:06):
in families just like mine, just like my parents, want
to pursue the American dream. They're just going to do
it the legal way. And that's what I'm most excited
about in this administration is going back to the rule law.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
And isn't it insane. I Mean I just cited Mayor
Eric Adams in New York City. He needs to bypass
his own city council and do some executive action to
try to get around this sanctuary city law that they
refuse to withdraw. I mean, he's the one that's looking
out for the constituents of New York City. They are

(04:36):
his own people. The residents of New York City are
screaming at the top of their lungs. They're over budget,
they got a billion dollar hole. Most of it's because
of the illegal immigration cost on the city. The residents
of the city's resources are being used and directed to
illegal immigrants, which shouldn't be there. He's trying to do
the right thing. He wants to work with the Trump administration,
but his own elected officials are standing in the way.

(04:59):
I mean, this is insanity, Orlando.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's exactly what it is. It's insanity, Brian. I mean,
it's so abundantly clear that the results of November bid
election reaffirm that Americans want decisive action on illegal immigrations.
They do not want politicians just like you highlighted in
New York across the coasts, where they're defying federal law
and think they know better than the American people on

(05:23):
how to keep them safe, how to make sure that
the economy is not overburdened by what immigration. Illegal immigration
is costing the American people, and that's why President Trump's
plan targeting high priority offenders, empowering local law enforcement, enforcing
existent laws, it's offering a comprehensive solution to secure our
borders and safeguard America's future. But back to your point, Brian,

(05:45):
on these sanctuary jurisdictions, Look the fact that we've got cities,
and sadly even here in Cincinnati, where you've got a
city council, you've got you've got mayors not just current
but in past, where they are trying to shield dangerous
legal immigrants for prosecution. What that's doing is jeopardizing public
safety and national security. And so President Trust's plan again

(06:08):
I lay it out in my outfit, that he's got
a plan in order to hold these jurisdictions accountable. It
promotes accountability, it fosters strong cooperation between federal and local
law enforcement. And so that's why we should not be
surprised when we actually see out of this incoming administration
these sanctuary cities held accountable, because that's what the people

(06:29):
want to see. They want to make sure that our
local leaders are upholding the laws. And if their federal laws,
well guess what if the American people, the average everyday
American needs to uphold every law from local, state, and federal. Absolutely,
we should be expecting that our local elected officials are
also abiding by the law.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, I can't come up with any other conclusion. Then
there is some profound nefarious intent among these elected officials
who insist on allowing you know, sanctuary cities, not cooperating
with Ice. Specifically when it comes to this very dangerous
criminal element. We're talking about people who already have records

(07:10):
that have been through the process. This isn't just every
illegal immigrant. We're going to start with the worst defenders,
ones who have gotten due process, have been convicted of crimes,
are known to have been have committed crimes here even
in the United States or their home countries. How is
it that anybody in elected capacity would think they're doing
the citizenry any good by allowing these people to stay

(07:31):
here and not cooperating with the folks who can get
them out. Have you given any thought to that, Orlando.
I hate to put you on the spot from that,
but I mean, it's just it's baffling to me.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, Brian, it begs the question again, what is their
motive for doing this? Right, It's obviously not to keep
the people safe. It's obviously not to make sure that
our American taxpayer dollars aren't going to I mean, look again, right,
another mandate that the American people delivered on November fifth
was they wanted to fix this broken economy that we've
seen out of the last four years in the Biden

(08:02):
Harris administration. And so for you know, we even talk
about the cost, the cost of illegal immigration is putting
on the shoulders of the American taxpayer one hundred and
fifty one billion dollars annually annually, Brian and you know
people that talk about, you know, a deportation effort, saying
that it's not feasible, it's it's it's too expensive. Well,

(08:25):
it is substantial. I mean again, from conservative estimates, we're
talking about three hundred billion dollars, but one time, a
one time effort that Trump has tried to lay out
that would in effect fix the problem that we're seeing
out of the legal immigration Compared to one hundred and
fifty one billion dollars annually. I mean again, I think

(08:45):
it's it's a high cost, yes, but in comparison to
what it's doing to the American people. On an annual basis.
But it again just blows my mind that when you've
got criminals that are wreaking havoc in our streets and
you've got now these local elected officials that want to
do nothing about it. In fact, they order their local

(09:07):
police department to not comply with federal law and report
these criminals to Ice and federal law enforcement. You just
got to ask yourself, why in the world would they
be doing that. And again, it's for the American people
to hold them accountable, hold these elected officials accountable. The
Trump administration is going to certainly hold them accountable.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Well, I certainly hope we turned the corner on this
here locally as well as the other sanctuary cities. And
I think, you know, all these mayors that abide by
the sanctuary cities are on full notice. Again. Just turning
to Eric Adams in New York, I think he's setting
a great example for the rest of the mayors in
the country to, you know, get their act together, go
the different direction. Recognize that that election of Donald Trump

(09:50):
was really largely, or at least in a substantial part,
built on the open borders problem that the Biden administration facilitated,
and that they're in the wrong political posture by sticking
with the open borders policy and sanctuary cities, and maybe
we'll get a result and we can turn things around. Orlando,
wonderful op ed piece. And as we part company, I

(10:12):
hope you and your family have just a joyous, joyous
holiday season and that everybody's in good health. And anytime
you want to come on the program to talk, I
enjoy our conversations. You do have a brilliant analysis when
it comes to things like this, and I really wish
I was talking to an elected official, but you know,
you're a very valuable man for us to have down
the road. I've got big, big ideas for you, and

(10:34):
I think we're going to see big things from you.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Orlando, Brian, I appreciate it. Thanks so much. Happy Mary, Christmas,
Happy near to you and your family, and on working up.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
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