Senator Rand Paul - Elon Musk and Gov Waste

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Speaker 1 (00:56):
Seven forty one fifty five Krcity Talks Station. Brian Thomas
always please to welcome with the fifty five PERC Morning Show,
Senator Rand Paul. Senator Paul, Welcome back, my friend. It's
always a pleasure to have you on the program.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Good morning, Brian, thanks for.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Having me and I guess you more than anyone, are
so disappointed that the Anthony Fauci Museum exhibit has been
canceled thanks to the work of dads.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Can't you imagine? And the thing is is, this kind
of craziness has been going on for decades and nobody's
pointed it out. Every administration comes in and just doesn't
know where to look and doesn't look hard enough. I've
been pointing it out for a decade, but they've been ignoring,
you know, the fact that now we've got Elon Musk's
help and the loudest and biggest microphone in the world,

(01:37):
and so it's coming to light and people are rightfully outraged.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And you know, the interesting thing about it, the most
one of the most interesting components of it is the
outrage expressed by the Democrats trying to defend the indefensible.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
This is where they're so out of touch. Somebody wrote
an article the other day saying Trump takes every eighty
twenty issue an issue where eighty percent of the public
is outraged and percent is not, and the Democrats are
standing up for the twenty percent. On all of these issues,
like should boys play in girls sports? Almost nobody believes
that it's probably a ten percent issue, and the Democrats
are loudly supporting this. Should a thirteen year old be

(02:14):
able to make a decision him remove part of their
body parts against their parents' wishes, and the Democrats are
standing up for that as well. Should we have an
anti Anthony Fauci museum? They want to have that too.
They just their outrage is so misplaced because the American
people are frankly thinking most of this stuff is ludicrous.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
They do, and then I guess it's illustrative of the
impossible reality of trying to follow each and every allocation
out to every non governmental organization that is a recipient
of this, regardless of how stupid the program is. I mean,
if fifty five thousand dollars for a climate change presentation
in you know, for an LGBTQ journalist, now nobody look

(03:00):
in to see how the money was actually spent. That's
like the tail end of the receipt. The receipt's bad enough,
the allocation's bad enough. But didn't that go to pad
someone's fat five oh one to three c salary.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Or went to a convention in Los Angles or something.
I mean, it's just it's just such an insult to
the hard working people of America. And this is going,
you know, this bridge is any kind of party affiliation.
If you are a working person in America, you are
outraised that your tax dollars are going to this. And
it's also why the uh, you know, extreme action of

(03:34):
closing down USID completely locking the door and pushing all
the people out is necessary because they've been using this
as their own fiefdom for for decades to not spread
diplomacy and not spread American will to spread you know,
you know, ideology on sex and gender that really some
in other countries, particularly some conservative Muslim countries, aren't too

(03:56):
interested in this. It actually repels some of those countries.
It really shouldn't be part of diplomacy. I mean, spending
three million dollars on girl centric climate change education in Brazil,
what kind of person thought that that was a good
use of our money, and.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Who thinks girls are more impacted by if climate change
even exists? Climate change anyhow, well.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
It also is insulting to girls because what are they
going to do? Have barbiees talking to each other that
girls can only listen if barbies are involved. I mean,
it's very sexist, it's incredibly you know, unreasonable. So yeah,
but it just goes on and on. I mean, we
spend four point eight million on social media influencers in Ukraine.

(04:39):
You know, we sent a bunch of Ukrainian fashion designers
to the Paris Fashion Show. It just doesn't end. And
with every new outrage, though, I think the people are saying,
I think we chose Wiley wisely, and the whole thing
does need to be disrupted. And ultimately, though Congress have
to do something. The President can and Elon and all

(05:01):
that gang can temporarily stop stuff, but eventually the commerce
has to stand up and say, we'll accept the money
back for the treasury through like what's called a recision package.
We'll quit spending it, and ultimately you just have to
spend less. You can't expect to have better people in government,
you know, because there may be people on the right
there as bad as people on the left, as far
as where they want to spend the money. You have

(05:21):
to give the agencies less money. This is what I've
been saying forever. It's not a matter of well, this
is wasteful because a bad person spent it. No, if
you gave them a billion dollars last year, you need
to give them less than a billion dollars this year.
You need to give them eight hundred million, twenty percent less,
and then they need to figure out, you know, what
ends up going away is the worst of the worst stuff.

(05:42):
But you have to give people less money. That almost
never happens because the big spenders in both parties, you know,
are clamoring for more of your money. I mean, look,
the first package the Republicans are putting forward right now
is a three hundred and twenty five billion dollars spending
package they're going to spend, and they're going to increase
spending by three hundred and twenty five million dollars in
their first package.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well at one of the areas of government that I
hope that Elon Musk and his career unleashed on. And
I've been a critic of the size of the American
military budget. Not the American military, but eight hundred and
thirty or forty billion dollars annually, biggest expenditure out of
government beyond payment of our interest on the national debt.
You know, Senator Paul, that there is a gob a

(06:24):
heapload of fraud, wasted abuse in that multi billion dollar
spending package.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Did you see the interview with John Stewart and that
ridiculous woman. I think she was a Pentagon apologist, and
she was saying, well, you know, the audit doesn't find
waste and fraud, and you know, Stuart was won. He said, well,
if it can't be audited, doesn't that implied that there's
waste in fraud And she just didn't seem to get it.
She was so arrogant and didn't seem to get it.

(06:50):
And we still to this day have not had a
full audit of the Pentagon. So I've been for years
on board with the built audit the FED. But I've
also been on board with the build audit the Pentagon.
But instead of saying, well, maybe we should hold the
line on spending with the military so they can find
the waste and be forced to find the waste, the

(07:11):
you know, the Hawks up here are adding one hundred
and fifty billion dollars in new military spending, and that's
on top of a three percent increase. So you just
got a three percent increase, and now they're getting another
one hundred and fifty billion added to that. And the
Republicans that are for this are gleefully rubbing their hands together, saying,
we get to give it to military without giving it
to welfare at this.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Time because we don't have to have the Democrats votes,
but they need the Republican votes, and I've told them, frankly,
I'm not voting to increase spending by three hundred billion dollars,
particularly if it has a.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Fake cut, you know, if there's a fake pay for.
What they're talking about as a pay for is ending
Biden's forgiveness of student loans. The problem is is that
never went into effect, so it's not really a savings.
The course ruled it illegal, it never went into effect,
and Trump was going to cancel it. So how how
in the world is that in actual savings? You know

(08:02):
what it is is it's money that you know, we
were going to lose if Biden got his way, but
it never happened, and then they can say, oh, well,
that all sets the three hundred billion dollars in new spending,
and that's why the debt keeps getting bigger and bigger.
But you know, the ten year estimate for interest is
fourteen billion dollars in interest over the next ten years.
I mean fourteen trillion. I'm not not a billion. Fourteen trillion.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
So lost a few zeros there on that one sentator.
It's easy to do when you're talking about this kind
of money. A billion dollars is nothing anymore, one thousand
million dollars. They just spit it out like it's nothing anyhow.
You know, I have I have an idea, and I'm
not quite sure if it would work, But someone's got
a ferret this out. There has to be a number
of people assigned to the task of going through all

(08:48):
of the following the money show and figure out where
it is and what happens. How about turning loose the
eighty seven thousand new IRACE agents and rather than having
them audit the American people, have them look inwardly and
audit the federal government.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah. I think that would be a good idea actually,
because they they've never been able to master it. Him.
This is kind of what Doja's doing. And you have
to see who the Democrats are on this. The Democrats
have Docks one of the young men. They've exposed his
name and his address, and they're trying to, you know,
get public outrage and perhaps even violence to stop this
young man from helping. But think of the genius of

(09:23):
this young man. He went to somewhere University of Nebraska,
and they have these scrolls that are a couple thousand
years old. I think they're from Israel and they were
burned maybe when the you know, the Roman siege of
sixty eight ADS at two thousand years old. They were burned,
but they're intact and if you take them, if you
try to unroll them, they fall apart with an MRI.

(09:43):
They took MRI of this, they still couldn't figure out
how to read them. He developed a program for automated
artificial intelligence, and he can. He has discovered how to
read these scrolls that are rolled up and burned in
two thousand years old. And that's the kind of genius
that is actually now looking at our federal money to
try to find savings. And what do the Democrats do?

(10:03):
They attack his character and It's like, we should be
happy that America still is producing geniuses like this, and
we should be lauding the young man for coming in.
I think Elon zaid, most of them are not being
paid any kind of real way. They're mostly doing it
for their country.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's a beautiful thing to behold, that is. And you know,
these are the critics that they criticize them because of
their youth, in spite of the fact that they are
brilliant young people, brilliant at computer science and understanding coding
and artificial intelligence. And yet they're the part of the
advocates for sixteen year olds getting the right to vote.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, it's it's insane, but I think it's backfiring them
on them, because you know what they're doing is, you know,
Trump is pushing forward issues that eighty percent of the
public support him on, and the Democrats are clinging to
support for issues that have very small, loud but very
small minorities.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
If you'll allow one moment additional time, Senator Paul, I
just wanted to get your reaction on the Trump's tariffs,
most notably the most recent ones on aluminum steel.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well teriffs are taxes and anytimes you put a tax
on something, you get less of it. So if you
tax trade, you'll get less trade. The trade allows the
average American consumer to save thousands of dollars a year.
So you know, over the years, as people began to
shop at Walmart, you know, it was sad, but the
mom and pop hardware store went away, But each individual
that shopped at Walmart was saving about one thousand dollars

(11:24):
a year. So what tariffs will do, if there's enough
of them, is everybody will spend you know, while we
have about one thousand dollars less rich. A good way
to look at this is you say, well, I want
to help the steel industry. So for every worker that
works in a steel industry, there are eighty workers who
work in a steel buying industry. So in our state,
we have fence manufacturers that buy a lot of steel.

(11:46):
That will mean less income for those people and less
wages for those workers. We have automobile industry, they buy
a lot of steel. We have cement industry, concrete industry,
we build houses. All of those things will be more
expensive because of teriffs. Now, some people will benefit. If
you're one of the thousand workers at a steel plan
in some state, you will benefit by tariffs, but if

(12:07):
you add up what it does to the economy by
the time they respond, it ends up being a significant
reduction in income for everybody that we do a lot
of trade with. We do a lot of steel trade
with Canda, we do a lot of lumber trade. Young
people are having trouble buying houses. If you put a
twenty five percent tariff on steel in Canada and they

(12:30):
reciprocate or on their lumber, all houses are just going
to go up and be more expensive and harder for
young people to get.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Senator and Paul, appreciate your words, Appreciate your opportunity to
talk with you. I'll look forward to have another conversation
and get back to work faireding out that fraudways.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Little thanks for having me.

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