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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Fifty five KRC, the talkstation. It is eight oh five
right now, fifty five krsd Talk Station. A very happy
Wednesday to you. I've been looking forward to this all morning.
I am pleased to welcome to the fifty five KRS
Morning Show. One of the January sixth defendants spent quite
some time, quite a bit of time in jail, and
he's now the executive director of two different groups we're

(00:30):
going to be learning about today, Stand the Gap and
the Real Jay six. Shane Jenkins, Welcome to the fifty
five KRC Morning Show. It's a real pleasure to have
you on.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thank you so much. It's honor to be here with
you this morning.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, and I'm bringing your biography. Man, You've got a
hell of a story to tell. You have lived a
rather transformative life and one of redemption as well. Just
give my listeners a little bit of background about your
early childhood and into the teenage years before you well
woke up and discovered a higher power, if there.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
When I was twelve or thirteen years old, I found
out I was adopted, and I had a really adverse
reaction to that. I had what I would call an
identity crisis at a very young age, and I set
out to create what I thought the persona of this
man that I thought Saint Jenkins was a lie, honestly,
and so I said, as an immature young boy, started

(01:21):
to create what I thought a man was, which was
an angry, violent people somebody that people feared or respected
in the wrong ways, which led me down a very
dark path. I turned away from school and sports and
my family, and you know, I began to look at
my biological family is like I wondered what was so
wrong with me that they didn't want me right my

(01:43):
own mom could throw me away. And so I was
a very wounded young man turned to the streets, you know,
and ended up in jail by the age of sixteen
till age nineteen. Watched my friends shoot and kill a
guy and shoot two other people when I was in
the car with them, and so I went down in
Texas as a laws of accessory, as if I had

(02:05):
full of trigger, and so I did three years for that.
Got out when I was nineteen. My mom married this
violent and alcoholic, drug addic, abusive man, and he went
to jail twice to beat my mom. At the age
of twenty, I shot shot and killed him in self defense.
And so here I was sixteen whilst my friends killed
a guy, a few to other people, and at the

(02:26):
age of twenty killed my stepfather and self defense was
acquitted by a grand jury, no charges. But still I
had in my mind we had the blood of my
blood and blood of my stepfather's wife on my hands,
right and so and uh well, and so that let
me down a very dark path. I had this guilt
and shame from killing my stepdad, even though it was
in self defense, even though it was in defense of

(02:48):
my mom and and myself, and it just really led
me down a dark path. Three tricks to prison as
adult and after my adopted mom passed away, my third
trip to adult prison, and Jesus Christ met me there
in a prison cell, thank God, and then salvaged me
from busting the gates of the hill a lot open.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
So, since you you know, achieved this enlightenment and this
awakening through Christianity obviously changed your life for the better,
and you've been running a straight and narrow path ever
since I presume.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, yeah, other than the buffer the road that we.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Called anywhere since we're going to get to that, and that,
of course is a nice segue to talk about that.
So you're in the Capitol.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Now?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
What led you to be at the Capitol on January
sixth ultimately leading to your arrest and imprisonment?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
All right? Well, like I had, like I said, I
had been in a out of trouble a lot of
my life criminally, and they twenty nineteen, I got off roll,
had given my life to Christ in twenty sixteen, and
so my politics sprang from my faith. Right I I
started the value life and all these things and gave
my life to Christ again in twenty sixteen, and then
started watching the persecution of President Trump, and so I

(04:00):
finally wanted to vote in the twenty twenty election. Voted
early in Texas, then watched the election election night, which
I had a lot of questions about the twenty and
twenty elections. Still do manipulated the election at bess stolen,
at worse is what I would say. You know. President
Trump sent out the tweet said come to d C
joined the Stop of Steel rally will be wild in

(04:23):
all caps and I had never been to d C,
never been to a Trump rally. Wanted to go protests
and request that they send the electors back to the
states so they could do an investigation in these states
that were won by very small martins. And so I
went and got and got drugged up into the crowd
and to the melee, was watching people be assaulted, was

(04:45):
assaulted myself, found out Ashley Babbitt was murdered inside the
Capitol while I was there on the Lower West Airece.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
And you know, it was a lot, and ultimately you
were charged. What led the charges I see was eight
phonies and one misdemeanor. And this in connection with your
activities in the capitol on January sixth. What did they
say you did?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
They said that I assaulted police officers, which after watching
people be assaulted for no reason, being assaulted myself for
taking no action against police officers, finding out they had
shot and killed somebody inside the capital, on top of
feeling like they were stealing an election, covering up the
steel of an election. I finally lost my tool and

(05:30):
I did. I did throw sticks what you would say
like flag sticks, a broken piece of a crutch, a
death drawer. I did so those items at fully riot geared, armored,
helmeted field police officers. And I'm accountable for that.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I understand, and I appreciate you but willingness to omit
your accountability. But you know, I you have to observe,
and I observe, and I can't forgive violence against police officers.
And this is why they end up taking it a trial.
But you know, this is really an illustration of selective
prosecution because a lot of those BLM and anti file
folks were out in the street throwing bombs, fireworks that

(06:09):
exploded at police officers, throwing frozen water bottles and other
articles similar to what you threw at police officers. I
don't recall a mass roundup and prosecution of any of
those folks. Do you recall them an each chain?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
No, not at all. And I will say this Rose
another woman died fifteen feet from me on the Lower
West sair series Roseanne Boiling. And then not only that,
but when they came and raided my house here in Houston,
they sent the head of the Joint Terrorism Task Force
from the FBI to raid my house along with Houston Squat.
They also labeled me a tier one anti government extremists. Whenever,

(06:45):
at worst, I threw Dick's got caught up in the
heat of the moment and threw sticks a police. But
that they determined that I wanted to overtow the government
by those actions and was a terrorist, Well, eighty is
absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Why and based your prior criminal back, which you obviously
admitted and admit regularly in the context of your transformation
and your enlightenment, that was not related to political activity,
was it?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, not at all, not at all, So okay.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
So you go through the trial and of course I'm
sure there was a biased jury there given the location
of the venue. You you're found guilty at trial, so
they sentence you to what was your sentence.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Eighty six months, which is seven years?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Seven years? Okay. It seems excessive in the light of
the modern criminal process we have today where everyone gets
off for almost murder. That's more more time than people
that commit murder get And you were in not you
were in nine prisons as well as what they call
the DC gulog. How much time did you end up
spending in prison?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I've spent forty six and a half months or fourteen
hundred and eighteen long days.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, not like you were counting, Shane, well in twenty
four of which were trial. So did they deny you
a bond hearing? Did they say no bond?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh? Absolutely, they said no bonds. Now they were they
were afraid that we were going to have another rally
and something else was going to happen, and that like
like I had never been in trouble for going to
political rally and getting out of control like I was
Antifa or something. They said, no, you're You're a threat
to society.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Okay, And I'm sure they brought into evidence your criminal
background absolutely of course unrelated to the to the to
the protest against the government. All right, So what was
it like in what we call the DC gulag Shane?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
That was absolutely horrific? I had I had, Like I said,
I've been to many different vales of Texas and prisons
and stuff. Never have I been denied visits with my
family for two years. Never have I been denied religious
services for two years. Never have I been denied haircuts
for a year. Never have I been denied fingernail clippers,
toenail clippers for a year, which is all things that

(09:01):
they did at the DC jail, not to mention, send
officers in to assault people, pepper spray people, will throw
us in solitary confinement for no reason. And so it
was a you know, you throw us in this ninety
seven percent Biden district with well, I call the Rainbow Brigade.
You had the black lesbian anybody above a regular officer

(09:21):
grade was a black lesbian woman, and they hated Donald
Trump and Trump supporters that they would spit on the
floor at his.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Hearing his name, and so, okay, it was that that's
where that treatment comes from. I can understand that. Yeah,
bias within the prison system. Anyhow, Shane Jenkins, you decided
you were going to do something about it and you
were going to help out folks in the future while
you were in jail. Tell my listeners about your sort
of eared idea behind the Real j six and ultimately

(09:50):
stand the gap.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, sir, we started a nonprofit. Well, we started the
LLC the Real j six first just to kind of
put out newsletters so merchandise team sure people that want
to support us, and to get guys' stories off. Then
as that kind of evolved, we realized that we were
paying taxes on that money, so we started the nonprofit
because we also wanted to do justice reform in the future.
In the meantime, we wanted to help January six ers,

(10:14):
so we still sell merchandise on the real Day six
but we are a nonprofit at standindegap dot Foundation and
we are currently helping January sixth guys. Right now. We're
working on credit repair and for health care because you know,
we were kidnapped by the FBI, so everybody's credit was
shot all to nothing, bad, all bad, and then health

(10:37):
care in the prison system is horrific, so we want
to be able to fund guys going to the doctors,
going to the dentists. And then we're also working on
a thing called Mission Memory Maker, where we're fully funding
a three to five day vacation with the January sixth
defendant and their family and children so they can get
away for three to five days, no expense to them.

(10:57):
Ubers paid for airfare, resorts, pay for meals, everything. Because
you know, the pressure is on the man right now
for the most law I say man, and there's women too,
but for the most part of the men to get
back to work because the wife has been out there
typically raising the children on a single income where it
was typically two incomes for the last four years, so

(11:18):
the pressure is on the man to get back to
work typically, So we want to ease that burden and
that stress and just pay for their vacation so they
can get away and just have no worries and love
on each other and just get back to some type
of normalcy in their lives.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh, it's a nice thing for you to do. You've
been through the ring of yourself and you know what
it's all about. So it's nice that you would step
up to the plate for the other Jay six fos,
you know. I see other component of this is and
I think about Ashley Babbitt, that that was not a
justifiable use of deadly force under any circumstances. You know,
I'm a lawyer. I know the law when it comes
to use of deadly force. She did not represent an

(11:55):
eminent threat to anyone. She was snaking through a window
that had been broken out and they gunned her down.
And I think about that, and it's like, how that
that person has never been held accountable, that person has
never been hauled into the view of social media, the
person that shot her and criticized and condemned for killing
really what amounted to a totally innocent, unarmed woman.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
No absolutely and somebody and shooting my stepdad and self defense.
I'm very familiar with selfist that self defense of the
third third party, and so she had no weapons in
her hand. There was nobody vulnerable and in danger right there.
It was a ambush. She ambushed her coming through that
window of a veteran of our Air Force wounded in combat.

(12:40):
It's just a hor horrible it is.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It is, And that's kind of why I emphasized the
Ashley Babbitt story because I think it's one of the
most egregious examples of you know, the treatment of people there,
but also because you've been through down that road based
on your history and your life. As you just reminded folks,
you had to kill your stepfather because of the threat
that he opposed to you. So you know the law
too in that realm, and of course the law allowed
you to escape having to go to prison for that.

(13:05):
Now I hate to live with the reality of I
fully appreciate where you're coming from in terms of the
stress that that has left you with. Emotionally, no one
would ever want to take the life of another human
being and could ever forget it after it's done. But
that's the agreed to side in law enforcement. But the
treatment of people that just engaged in innocuous behavior like
just strolling through the capital that the idea that they

(13:27):
were rounded up and subjected to the judicial system is
really mind boggling to me, particularly given the comparison to
how the left wing protesters were treated and not bothered
at all in terms of law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well, yeah, sir, When to see Tom Tillis yesterday, Senator
Tom till Is saying that people that trespass on Capitol
grounds deserved between thirty days and three years in prison
is absolutely frustrating and ridiculous, especially when you had groups
of massed individuals taking down ski fencing, removing bike racks

(13:59):
next to the Decis police, Capitol Police watching them, giving
them the thumbs up and allowing them to remove those
barriers and those trespassing signs, which any other day other
than January sixth would not be considered trespassing to be
on Capitol grounds. But he's calling for people to be
in jail and all. It's just so frustrated. Then he
doesn't want to confirm ed Martin as the DC attorney,

(14:22):
and it's just super, super frustrating.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I imagine it's like it's like pointing assault or vinegar
in your your your current lasting wound. Shane Jenkins. The
real J six dot com is where you find Shane
in his organization there, And what's the website for the
Stand in the.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Gap Stand in the Gap dot Foundation?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh okay, I saw that. I'm used to seeing a
dot com or a dot org or a dot gov
or something. I never seen a dot foundation. But there
you have it, Stand in the Gap dot Foundation and
my listeners, I really appreciate where you're coming from, Shane,
and as do I sorry you got run through the wringer,
but you know, it's good that you're out there explaining
the injustice that was involved in what they call the

(15:07):
justice that was served there. And your voice is fully appreciated.
And I know the other JA sixers who are similarly
treated certainly appreciate what you're doing in your efforts on
their behalf. Shane Jenkins, thank you for spending time with
my listeners of me today. It's been very enlightening. And
I'll have my executi producer put your organization's links on
my blog page at fifty five krs dot com.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Thank you so much for I hope you'll have a
wonderful day and God bless.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
You, God bless you.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Sir.

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