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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. And
as I promised, he is back with us. Can you
believe this, ladies and gentlemen, This has got to be
a record. He's been on our show so many times.
I cannot believe it. You know who I'm talking about.
He's a professor emeritus of Horticulture, University of Georgia. His
latest books, of course, The Field Guide, especially Cut Flowers,
Herbaceous perennial Plants as Gardening app is the best ever armed.
(00:22):
He just great garden plants. He's getting another award next week. Unbelievable.
Gonna have to big a bigger house to put all
of his awards. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the only
doctor Alan Apple Armitage, Sit down, Sit down. She's all
(00:43):
these Ohio people, they're all standing and applauding. They can't
wait for you when you get into coming to Columbus.
What is that in the week.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes, it is that the big horticulture show called Cultivate
is in Columbus and gosh, yeah that's next weekend. So yeah,
I'll be. I'll be, I'll be close to your to
your home.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well we'll know.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'll look forward to seeing anybody who's out there.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The population of Ohio will increase knowing that doctor Allan
Armony's will be in Columbus, Ohio. By the way, it
was interesting to learn that you'd rather visit garden centers
than grocery shop.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well that's a given, isn't it. I mean, I mean,
not only did they look better, they they don't make
you fat. Here I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Here I am watching an interview with doctor Allan Armonies
and he says, you know what, I just really encourage
growers to visit garden centers to learn more. But I'd rather,
you know, I'd visit. I'd rather do that than go
to a grocery store. Said okay, well, well.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's the thing is the thing, ain't Roden and many
of the listeners you know, just doesn't be listening to
you for so long. Understand that to get a plant
to the local garden center, there's a whole bunch of
stuff going on behind the scenes. Somebody has to breed,
if somebody has to grow, if somebody has to uh,
you know, do all those things as and as a grower,
(02:05):
and we you know, you and I have been in
many many greenhouses. It's so lovely when your greenhouse is empty,
you know, that means all your product has been sold
and people like it. But most times, I said, most times,
you know, the person who has done the growing and
all not really actually sure what that thing looks like
when it's in somebody's gardens or the garden center. So
that was my point. Wasn't that you should do anything
(02:26):
more than they're doing. My point is, you know, these
plants that we grow from a seed or from a
cutting or from whatever. Gosh, they're just so sicktacular once
they get in the garden, and it's nice to sort of,
you know, look and see what you've been doing and
how well you've been doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, and it's you're right, I mean. And the communication
there between growers and garden centers and and the people
to buy the plants and plant them in their own
gardens is a very important chain there to stay in
touch with. So and of course they're the beginning of
the whole thing. So no, I thought it was well taken.
I just well, I just thought, you know, I figured
you'd be the kind of guy I wanted to go
to the grocery store and do some grocery shopping, like, yeah,
(03:03):
there you go. Do you like to talk to people
with people at Costco? So I mean there you you know.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh gosh, oh god.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Now what I am expecting in your next interview is
to grab that acoustic guitar that's behind you and sing
a few songs while you're doing the interview.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
There you go. I'll write a song about this great
industry and the great gardeners and and people we meet.
You know. It'll be calleding. I can't believe who I see. Well,
I we'll just have fun. But anyway, I I pitdle
around with a guitar string every now and then and
sounds pretty awful. Susan closes the door, but we have fun.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't blame her. I was watching a TV show
last night and I thought of you, because I think
we're going to come up with this show for you.
It was The guy's name is Anthony something. He's a
water garden installer, does pools, and he's from He's from
mangland Er somewhere. But anyway, he's got a hat similar
to yours, I hate to say it, and he's a
(04:01):
really particular but he creates these huge, all natural pools
and ponds, and I said, you know what, that's what
we need to do with doctor Armitage. Get you know,
get him a show that where you come in you
know how you do that and you go into somebody's
backyard and turn it into a perennial garden.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There we go yeah, yeah, yeah, like yeah, that's it.
And then you know we'll put a little bit more
g in it. That's all.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, why not? And you have your crew come in
and you know you'd be real picky about everything, and
you know, and then have him do stuff and then
you only got two days to get it done. And
what do you think We'll.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Bring the trucks in and all of a sudden it'll
be just a fib in his garden and people won't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And what you started, I good idea. I kept watch
I saying we're gonna do this with doctor Armity's I
think it'd be outstanding. By the way, before you had
you on, we had a friend of mine who was
a giant pumpkin grower on talking about his giant pumpkins.
That might be something else you might want to try
in your perennial garden this year.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, I'm having enough trouble with tomatoes. I don't know
if I could do pimp pumpkins, but tomatoes are ripe
and we're having great tomato sandwiches. So life is definitely
good in the fascinating.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh that's good. Now. See here we're about three weeks behind,
so we are just now starting to find some riping
tomatoes in the garden.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, I don't know how you're so far behind. If
you're ninety two degrees. Today's let's it's catching up. It's
catching up. I'll tell you talk with doctor Allan Armitage,
And of course his website is Alan Armandy's dot net.
Check out all his great books, and of course that
garden app. You can't live without it. And you'll have
doctor Armitage right there in your back pocket. So any
questions come up, you got it. By the way, I
(05:34):
was impressed when you said coming up a storm, mister
southern man. Coming up with some of those Southern expressions.
They just they just sort of they just catch you
by surprise, don't they.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So this guy, this guy just throws me off every time.
So all right, I got some serious questions for you,
and then after the break we'll come back and talk
a little bit about cultivat and what we're going to
see this year. But I got a couple of things
for you. First of all, I'm finishing up our land
scape plantings that after the show today, I'm installing three
more American gold rush Rebecca. I love that plant.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That is a five of this plant, and I would
recommend it to anybody who well wants something that blooms
in the summer. It's bright, it works well, it's disease resistant.
That's an American native, that's a native r but it's
American roots and all I agree with you one hundred percent,
and a great a great addition.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Great show, and low maintenance. And you're right. The least
spot I don't see that on there, and I mean
it's a I think it was a twenty twenty three
Perennial of the year.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
If i'm yeah, I think you're correct. I think you're correct,
and that means that everybody has it, so that's a
good thing too.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. But I have just absolutely loved
that plant and a container are in the ground and
then we're pretty well finished out. But the other ones
I want to throw at you is this time of
the year, I start to hear from folks. I want
to hit two different types of perennials. One is it
still being. The other one is coral bells. I hear
from folks who still be right now all of a sudden,
starting to get the crispy leaves. I'm not doing so well.
(07:04):
I love a stillby, but I've always that's always seemed
to be a major issue to me if they're not maintained.
Where do you come from when it comes to a stillbey?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh no, I can still be on a scale of
one to ten for me. And again, anybody has ninety three.
Temperatures for me is maybe a three. And I say
that because it's fabulous in the spring. I mean it's
Sydney cold, hardy, and it's wonderful in the spring. And
if you have sufficient rains, it loves moisture, it loves
cool and if you have dry heat and it's done
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so good. And at this time of year, they're getting crispy.
I don't even recommend them at all. Down here and
work further south than you are. But even when you are,
I think they're a bit ifsy They're going to look good.
For if you can just say, hey, they look good
for a while and then they go away. But if
they get real crispy in the summer, they're not going
to come back next spring. So you just have to
maintain the moisture all the time and then hide them
(07:56):
in some annuals as they get crispy.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, and it's it's just and I was just curious
with you because I just I'm the same way. I
don't recommend him. I just don't. And we still grow
a lot, we still sell a lot. Some folks have
success with them. If you don't keep the moisture to them,
they're not gonna They're just not gonna do it. But
it's a great flower, great foliage.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It's a great plan, and there's a lot of cultivars
and all. And I think it all came, you know,
how well they do in Europe and in England, and
we go visit and we see them and they do
well on the West coast, and they do well, you know,
quite a bit further north. But you know, they're not
all plants work in all places. That's just the way
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
That's a great point. Talking with doctor Allan Armadage his
website Alan Armeddy's dot net, we come back we'll talk
about coral bells, kind of the same questions there, and
then we'll talk about Cultivate that's coming up in Columbus,
Ohio in about another week. You can actually go there
and meet doctor Allan Armity. It's just all happening here
in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (10:14):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson special
guests this morning. The doctor is where us doctor Allen
Apple arm Aage's website Alan Arminach dot net.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And we're talking about some perennials here. We talk about
it Stillby, which is one of those ones you just
love to be able to grow, but boy just don't
seem to do all that well in the our area.
And the other one I want to throw at you
today in general would be coral bells. How do you
feel about coral bells?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, you know, coral bells exploded kind of like hostas
home flowers, and they exploded everywhere. There's lots of different
colors of foliage, and so they're out there. I like
them very much. Again, they're a little bit finicky if
it gets real dry, or real hot. But in general,
you know, if I scale one to ten, thing for
(11:01):
either about a six or is maybe a seven. But
the key for me and perhaps for you, or what
I recommend people to do, particularly in the winter or
in the fall, is to is to kind of put
soil around the crown of the coral bells, and they
then can root into that soil and that just makes
them stronger, because after a few years they tend to
(11:21):
get a little I don't know what I call skinny necks,
and they kind of flip and flop around a little bit.
But for me, if I get five years out of them,
UNHAPPI as Heck, yeah, well, I wrote, they're certainly not
a long lasting frangle for at least for me.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, And I wrote that in my notes here. You know,
would you consider them a short lived perennial night three
to five years? I think you're probably right. I never
forget the first time I really grew a patch of
coral bells, and I've did them with multiple colors so
that it looked like I quilt work pattern. After the second year,
I went in there to kind of rake a little
bit in the springtime to kind of clean out around them.
Of course, I pulled half of them out of the ground.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And I guess it's a good point about putting the
soil around there to get them to root in them
a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
What about. Yeah, they're not deeply rooted. That's the thing.
And the other thing too, ron is that cross between
yukara or coral bells and this foamy bells called tiarella
is called yu corella.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Wait a minute, that's my next one. That's my next question.
You're reading my notes too, you have not I actually
had notes here today.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well my next question. Well, first of all, one is
you'll find them labeled. And I think this gets very confusing.
You go to any book anyway, they're labeled sun to
part shape.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh god. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I really don't look at them as a sun plant,
I mean as a full song. But yet but yet
we all labeled them as sun to part son.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah. Well, for what it's worse. And not that I'm
going to let the cat of the bag here, but
you and I are going to talk about this later on.
I have a new book coming out in the fall,
and it's called The Common Sense Gardener, and it's common
sense out here. You know, what the heck does even
sun or shade even mean. But but we'll go there
at another time. So I want to answer those questions
(13:10):
when the time comes. What the fact is, all the
coral bells and the folly bells and all those things,
they are not full sun plants. They absolutely do not do.
They do not do well with afternoon sun. You know. Essentially,
that's what sun and shade simply mean. Keep them in
or keep them out of afternoon sun. The morning sun
is not an issue. So yeah, I agree with you
(13:31):
one hundred percent. It should not be labeled sun or
it should be labeled keep them out of afternoon sun.
But they'll never get that in a little.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, you know, I look at many of the hydrange
it's the same way. I mean, you know, they'll take sun,
but on the same token, if my recommendation morning sun
shade in the heat of the day for all of them,
and they'll do so much better for you in a
situation like that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So, especially with the mop head types you know, your
grandmother's types, and blues and the pinks, they absolutely do
I mean, they do not tolerate afternoon sun to everyone,
unless they're you know, very mature. The mature plants once
they get you know, five ten years on them, they
probably tolerate anything. But boy, to get them established, keep
them out of the afternoon sun if you can.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
All right, so now let's go back to my other
question I had about here, what about the book the
when they when the tirrellas, and then of course you've
got the hookarellas, and you know, do those seem to
be a little tougher than the hookaoes.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I in my in my experience, uh tiarella, which is
again our foam flower. Uh, you know again another lovely
native plant native to the east to the Midwest. Uh,
those are pretty good. Now, they're gonna look pretty rough
in the summertime, they kind of go dormant on you.
They just kind of disappear, but they did recome back
every year. Again, absolutely need afternoon shade. But these are
(14:54):
shade tolerant plants, and they're woodland plants, and that's what
you get. I think they're pretty tough. And I think
in acting that gene tool into the coral bells to
make this thing we call foamy bells, which is you corella,
I think just makes them tougher.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So there you go. I'm for what it's hardest, right well,
I mean, that's that's exactly what I was looking for.
And again I think it's you know, it's one of
those things where I can't wait to see this book
that the common sense guardening because again, you know, I
look at some of the signees sometimes and I help
with ours too, and that's one of the things I've
been looking to change. And unfortunately we would be the
(15:28):
only ones that say that. But that's the way it goes,
because it's common sense, right well.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It is God. And so this book is gonna be
very small. It's gonna be less than under page, is guaranteed,
because common sense doesn't need a whole lot of words.
But turns up, there's not a whole lot of common
sense out there when it comes to confusion in the garden.
But anyway, it's it's we'll see how it goes. But
I'll send you an advanced coffee when I when I
(15:56):
get this thing done.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
All right, sounds good now, so you'll enjoy it as
I have all of your books. As a matter of fact,
if you if you don't have any of doctor Armony's
book ing, go to his website. Learn all about all
of them at Alan Armonis dot net. And I do
suggest getting one of the first ones, and it may
have been the first one you wrote it. It's all
about the hat because you you learn more of where
he's coming from, and every time you listen to him
(16:18):
on our show, you'll understand him a lot more by
reading that book.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, well that was that was That was. That book
is interesting if you you know again, it's it's a
story about how I got here from there. But uh,
you know, it was fun to write, and people seem
to enjoy it, so thank you. It was. It was good.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I shall keep waiting for part two of the Naked
Ladies and Forget Me nots.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You know, I keep getting these notes from people, and
then of course my grandmother's grandmother's yeah name is on
this thing, and.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Then of course it's all about it's all about apples.
I've been waiting for that one forever since we first
started talking.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So that may take a while. I keep I keep
eating the data, so that may take a while.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, you know you don't have any apple trees in
your garden?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
No, no, no, no, well you know better, Yeah, I
know better. I go I go to the farmers market
and we'll go get apples there. But tomato is another
cool thing, huh. I mean, if we actually care how
much a tomato costs us from our garden, we'd never
grow it. But we just do it for the pleasure.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's fun. By the way, is that bacon I smell
on that blackstone cooking already?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'll tell you what, don't even go there. Yeah, I'm
obsessed with this thing. Good.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I think everybody my brother's now got a blackstone. They're
all doing their all there. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, it's just it's just fun, you know, because you
can do something quick and there's no smell and no bother.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
There you go. Doctor Allen Armidy's is with us this
morning again. Alan armonies dot Net is the website. So
you're going to be in Cultivate, which is a huge
trade show. We go every year. We learned so much.
It's funny how they started as the Ohio Florists Association
and all came together. Always been very strong with the class.
They have always done such a great job of that
and have stuck with that. And of course the trade
(18:04):
show is phenomenal. You see a lot of new plants
et cetera, et cetera. But you will be up there
on Friday to receive another award. Where you're gonna put
these I have no idea but from the garden calm
on Friday night, which congratulations on that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Thank you, Thank you the garden communications people. It's an
award that says I write so that gardeners can understand
what's going on here. You go, I guess you go.
You and I are talking like that, right, So anyway,
it's lovely and I normally it's great, and I normally
only go to the Columbus for like one day, but
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just because of this, I'm going up a little earlier.
I'm actually taking my life with me, so it'll be good.
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So he's gonna be hanging around Columbus over the weekend
and on he's gonna be I'm gonna let the cat
out of the bag. He's gonna be walking the show
on Monday. So if you're looking for him, just stand
up a little bit higher. Seeing you see through the crowd,
look for the one guy with a strange hat and
about one hundred people around him as they moved like
(19:08):
a little cloud through the through the aisles, looking at
all the different plants that will be Doctor Allen Apple
armitages right in the middle of that group.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No, believe a word of it, ladies and gentlemen. I'll
be there with my hat on. But plase who come
sail all if you happen to be there.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Does missus Armitage enjoy Does she go to many of these?
Does she enjoy doing this too?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, she has a whole lot more common sense than
most of us. No, she's only coming because I'm done
going a little bit longer. But she this pretty boring
stuff quite truthfully. Unless you're into this stuff anyway, we'll
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I love it to you, Doctor Allan Armitage again. His
website is Alanarmedis dot net. Always a pleasure. We'll see
you in Columbus, sir.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, right, stay in touch and I can't wait to
talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
All right, take care, Doctor Allen Apple Armitage again, alan
Armedies dot net. His garden app's absolutely wonderfully updates it
on a regular basis. I think it's fortnite nine to
download it. But you will love it and you'll have
doctor Allan Armitage in your back pocket. Can't ask for
more than that. Quick break we come back, we'll have
more garden tips for you. Of course, Gary Solomon with
a little home improvement, and then Buggy Joe Boggs. Here
(20:13):
in the garden with Ron Wilson, Green.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Tom or not.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three talk,
they says, in the Garden with Ron Wilson,
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. And
as I promised, he is back with us. Can you
believe this, ladies and gentlemen, This has got to be
a record. He's been on our show so many times.
I cannot believe it. You know who I'm talking about.
He's a professor emeritus of Horticulture, University of Georgia. His
latest books, of course, The Field Guide, especially Cut Flowers,
Herbaceous perennial Plants as Gardening app is the best ever armed.
(00:22):
He just great garden plants. He's getting another award next week. Unbelievable.
Gonna have to big a bigger house to put all
of his awards. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the only
doctor Alan Apple Armitage, Sit down, Sit down. She's all
(00:43):
these Ohio people, they're all standing and applauding. They can't
wait for you when you get into coming to Columbus.
What is that in the week.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes, it is that the big horticulture show called Cultivate
is in Columbus and gosh, yeah that's next weekend. So yeah,
I'll be. I'll be, I'll be close to your to
your home.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well we'll know.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'll look forward to seeing anybody who's out there.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The population of Ohio will increase knowing that doctor Allan
Armony's will be in Columbus, Ohio. By the way, it
was interesting to learn that you'd rather visit garden centers
than grocery shop.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well that's a given, isn't it. I mean, I mean,
not only did they look better, they they don't make
you fat. Here I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Here I am watching an interview with doctor Allan Armonies
and he says, you know what, I just really encourage
growers to visit garden centers to learn more. But I'd rather,
you know, I'd visit. I'd rather do that than go
to a grocery store. Said okay, well, well.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's the thing is the thing, ain't Roden and many
of the listeners you know, just doesn't be listening to
you for so long. Understand that to get a plant
to the local garden center, there's a whole bunch of
stuff going on behind the scenes. Somebody has to breed,
if somebody has to grow, if somebody has to uh,
you know, do all those things as and as a grower,
(02:05):
and we you know, you and I have been in
many many greenhouses. It's so lovely when your greenhouse is empty,
you know, that means all your product has been sold
and people like it. But most times, I said, most times,
you know, the person who has done the growing and
all not really actually sure what that thing looks like
when it's in somebody's gardens or the garden center. So
that was my point. Wasn't that you should do anything
(02:26):
more than they're doing. My point is, you know, these
plants that we grow from a seed or from a
cutting or from whatever. Gosh, they're just so sicktacular once
they get in the garden, and it's nice to sort of,
you know, look and see what you've been doing and
how well you've been doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, and it's you're right, I mean. And the communication
there between growers and garden centers and and the people
to buy the plants and plant them in their own
gardens is a very important chain there to stay in
touch with. So and of course they're the beginning of
the whole thing. So no, I thought it was well taken.
I just well, I just thought, you know, I figured
you'd be the kind of guy I wanted to go
to the grocery store and do some grocery shopping, like, yeah,
(03:03):
there you go. Do you like to talk to people
with people at Costco? So I mean there you you know.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh gosh, oh god.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Now what I am expecting in your next interview is
to grab that acoustic guitar that's behind you and sing
a few songs while you're doing the interview.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
There you go. I'll write a song about this great
industry and the great gardeners and and people we meet.
You know. It'll be calleding. I can't believe who I see. Well,
I we'll just have fun. But anyway, I I pitdle
around with a guitar string every now and then and
sounds pretty awful. Susan closes the door, but we have fun.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't blame her. I was watching a TV show
last night and I thought of you, because I think
we're going to come up with this show for you.
It was The guy's name is Anthony something. He's a
water garden installer, does pools, and he's from He's from
mangland Er somewhere. But anyway, he's got a hat similar
to yours, I hate to say it, and he's a
(04:01):
really particular but he creates these huge, all natural pools
and ponds, and I said, you know what, that's what
we need to do with doctor Armitage. Get you know,
get him a show that where you come in you
know how you do that and you go into somebody's
backyard and turn it into a perennial garden.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There we go yeah, yeah, yeah, like yeah, that's it.
And then you know we'll put a little bit more
g in it. That's all.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, why not? And you have your crew come in
and you know you'd be real picky about everything, and
you know, and then have him do stuff and then
you only got two days to get it done. And
what do you think We'll.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Bring the trucks in and all of a sudden it'll
be just a fib in his garden and people won't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And what you started, I good idea. I kept watch
I saying we're gonna do this with doctor Armity's I
think it'd be outstanding. By the way, before you had
you on, we had a friend of mine who was
a giant pumpkin grower on talking about his giant pumpkins.
That might be something else you might want to try
in your perennial garden this year.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, I'm having enough trouble with tomatoes. I don't know
if I could do pimp pumpkins, but tomatoes are ripe
and we're having great tomato sandwiches. So life is definitely
good in the fascinating.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh that's good. Now. See here we're about three weeks behind,
so we are just now starting to find some riping
tomatoes in the garden.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, I don't know how you're so far behind. If
you're ninety two degrees. Today's let's it's catching up. It's
catching up. I'll tell you talk with doctor Allan Armitage,
And of course his website is Alan Armandy's dot net.
Check out all his great books, and of course that
garden app. You can't live without it. And you'll have
doctor Armitage right there in your back pocket. So any
questions come up, you got it. By the way, I
(05:34):
was impressed when you said coming up a storm, mister
southern man. Coming up with some of those Southern expressions.
They just they just sort of they just catch you
by surprise, don't they.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So this guy, this guy just throws me off every time.
So all right, I got some serious questions for you,
and then after the break we'll come back and talk
a little bit about cultivat and what we're going to
see this year. But I got a couple of things
for you. First of all, I'm finishing up our land
scape plantings that after the show today, I'm installing three
more American gold rush Rebecca. I love that plant.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That is a five of this plant, and I would
recommend it to anybody who well wants something that blooms
in the summer. It's bright, it works well, it's disease resistant.
That's an American native, that's a native r but it's
American roots and all I agree with you one hundred percent,
and a great a great addition.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Great show, and low maintenance. And you're right. The least
spot I don't see that on there, and I mean
it's a I think it was a twenty twenty three
Perennial of the year.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
If i'm yeah, I think you're correct. I think you're correct,
and that means that everybody has it, so that's a
good thing too.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. But I have just absolutely loved
that plant and a container are in the ground and
then we're pretty well finished out. But the other ones
I want to throw at you is this time of
the year, I start to hear from folks. I want
to hit two different types of perennials. One is it
still being. The other one is coral bells. I hear
from folks who still be right now all of a sudden,
starting to get the crispy leaves. I'm not doing so well.
(07:04):
I love a stillby, but I've always that's always seemed
to be a major issue to me if they're not maintained.
Where do you come from when it comes to a stillbey?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh no, I can still be on a scale of
one to ten for me. And again, anybody has ninety three.
Temperatures for me is maybe a three. And I say
that because it's fabulous in the spring. I mean it's
Sydney cold, hardy, and it's wonderful in the spring. And
if you have sufficient rains, it loves moisture, it loves
cool and if you have dry heat and it's done
(07:33):
so good. And at this time of year, they're getting crispy.
I don't even recommend them at all. Down here and
work further south than you are. But even when you are,
I think they're a bit ifsy They're going to look good.
For if you can just say, hey, they look good
for a while and then they go away. But if
they get real crispy in the summer, they're not going
to come back next spring. So you just have to
maintain the moisture all the time and then hide them
(07:56):
in some annuals as they get crispy.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, and it's it's just and I was just curious
with you because I just I'm the same way. I
don't recommend him. I just don't. And we still grow
a lot, we still sell a lot. Some folks have
success with them. If you don't keep the moisture to them,
they're not gonna They're just not gonna do it. But
it's a great flower, great foliage.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It's a great plan, and there's a lot of cultivars
and all. And I think it all came, you know,
how well they do in Europe and in England, and
we go visit and we see them and they do
well on the West coast, and they do well, you know,
quite a bit further north. But you know, they're not
all plants work in all places. That's just the way
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
That's a great point. Talking with doctor Allan Armadage his
website Alan Armeddy's dot net, we come back we'll talk
about coral bells, kind of the same questions there, and
then we'll talk about Cultivate that's coming up in Columbus,
Ohio in about another week. You can actually go there
and meet doctor Allan Armity. It's just all happening here
in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (10:14):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson special
guests this morning. The doctor is where us doctor Allen
Apple arm Aage's website Alan Arminach dot net.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And we're talking about some perennials here. We talk about
it Stillby, which is one of those ones you just
love to be able to grow, but boy just don't
seem to do all that well in the our area.
And the other one I want to throw at you
today in general would be coral bells. How do you
feel about coral bells?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, you know, coral bells exploded kind of like hostas
home flowers, and they exploded everywhere. There's lots of different
colors of foliage, and so they're out there. I like
them very much. Again, they're a little bit finicky if
it gets real dry, or real hot. But in general,
you know, if I scale one to ten, thing for
(11:01):
either about a six or is maybe a seven. But
the key for me and perhaps for you, or what
I recommend people to do, particularly in the winter or
in the fall, is to is to kind of put
soil around the crown of the coral bells, and they
then can root into that soil and that just makes
them stronger, because after a few years they tend to
(11:21):
get a little I don't know what I call skinny necks,
and they kind of flip and flop around a little bit.
But for me, if I get five years out of them,
UNHAPPI as Heck, yeah, well, I wrote, they're certainly not
a long lasting frangle for at least for me.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, And I wrote that in my notes here. You know,
would you consider them a short lived perennial night three
to five years? I think you're probably right. I never
forget the first time I really grew a patch of
coral bells, and I've did them with multiple colors so
that it looked like I quilt work pattern. After the second year,
I went in there to kind of rake a little
bit in the springtime to kind of clean out around them.
Of course, I pulled half of them out of the ground.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And I guess it's a good point about putting the
soil around there to get them to root in them
a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
What about. Yeah, they're not deeply rooted. That's the thing.
And the other thing too, ron is that cross between
yukara or coral bells and this foamy bells called tiarella
is called yu corella.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Wait a minute, that's my next one. That's my next question.
You're reading my notes too, you have not I actually
had notes here today.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well my next question. Well, first of all, one is
you'll find them labeled. And I think this gets very confusing.
You go to any book anyway, they're labeled sun to
part shape.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh god. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I really don't look at them as a sun plant,
I mean as a full song. But yet but yet
we all labeled them as sun to part son.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah. Well, for what it's worse. And not that I'm
going to let the cat of the bag here, but
you and I are going to talk about this later on.
I have a new book coming out in the fall,
and it's called The Common Sense Gardener, and it's common
sense out here. You know, what the heck does even
sun or shade even mean. But but we'll go there
at another time. So I want to answer those questions
(13:10):
when the time comes. What the fact is, all the
coral bells and the folly bells and all those things,
they are not full sun plants. They absolutely do not do.
They do not do well with afternoon sun. You know. Essentially,
that's what sun and shade simply mean. Keep them in
or keep them out of afternoon sun. The morning sun
is not an issue. So yeah, I agree with you
(13:31):
one hundred percent. It should not be labeled sun or
it should be labeled keep them out of afternoon sun.
But they'll never get that in a little.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, you know, I look at many of the hydrange
it's the same way. I mean, you know, they'll take sun,
but on the same token, if my recommendation morning sun
shade in the heat of the day for all of them,
and they'll do so much better for you in a
situation like that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So, especially with the mop head types you know, your
grandmother's types, and blues and the pinks, they absolutely do
I mean, they do not tolerate afternoon sun to everyone,
unless they're you know, very mature. The mature plants once
they get you know, five ten years on them, they
probably tolerate anything. But boy, to get them established, keep
them out of the afternoon sun if you can.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
All right, so now let's go back to my other
question I had about here, what about the book the
when they when the tirrellas, and then of course you've
got the hookarellas, and you know, do those seem to
be a little tougher than the hookaoes.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I in my in my experience, uh tiarella, which is
again our foam flower. Uh, you know again another lovely
native plant native to the east to the Midwest. Uh,
those are pretty good. Now, they're gonna look pretty rough
in the summertime, they kind of go dormant on you.
They just kind of disappear, but they did recome back
every year. Again, absolutely need afternoon shade. But these are
(14:54):
shade tolerant plants, and they're woodland plants, and that's what
you get. I think they're pretty tough. And I think
in acting that gene tool into the coral bells to
make this thing we call foamy bells, which is you corella,
I think just makes them tougher.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So there you go. I'm for what it's hardest, right well,
I mean, that's that's exactly what I was looking for.
And again I think it's you know, it's one of
those things where I can't wait to see this book
that the common sense guardening because again, you know, I
look at some of the signees sometimes and I help
with ours too, and that's one of the things I've
been looking to change. And unfortunately we would be the
(15:28):
only ones that say that. But that's the way it goes,
because it's common sense, right well.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It is God. And so this book is gonna be
very small. It's gonna be less than under page, is guaranteed,
because common sense doesn't need a whole lot of words.
But turns up, there's not a whole lot of common
sense out there when it comes to confusion in the garden.
But anyway, it's it's we'll see how it goes. But
I'll send you an advanced coffee when I when I
(15:56):
get this thing done.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
All right, sounds good now, so you'll enjoy it as
I have all of your books. As a matter of fact,
if you if you don't have any of doctor Armony's
book ing, go to his website. Learn all about all
of them at Alan Armonis dot net. And I do
suggest getting one of the first ones, and it may
have been the first one you wrote it. It's all
about the hat because you you learn more of where
he's coming from, and every time you listen to him
(16:18):
on our show, you'll understand him a lot more by
reading that book.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, well that was that was That was. That book
is interesting if you you know again, it's it's a
story about how I got here from there. But uh,
you know, it was fun to write, and people seem
to enjoy it, so thank you. It was. It was good.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I shall keep waiting for part two of the Naked
Ladies and Forget Me nots.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You know, I keep getting these notes from people, and
then of course my grandmother's grandmother's yeah name is on
this thing, and.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Then of course it's all about it's all about apples.
I've been waiting for that one forever since we first
started talking.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So that may take a while. I keep I keep
eating the data, so that may take a while.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, you know you don't have any apple trees in
your garden?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
No, no, no, no, well you know better, Yeah, I
know better. I go I go to the farmers market
and we'll go get apples there. But tomato is another
cool thing, huh. I mean, if we actually care how
much a tomato costs us from our garden, we'd never
grow it. But we just do it for the pleasure.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's fun. By the way, is that bacon I smell
on that blackstone cooking already?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'll tell you what, don't even go there. Yeah, I'm
obsessed with this thing. Good.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I think everybody my brother's now got a blackstone. They're
all doing their all there. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, it's just it's just fun, you know, because you
can do something quick and there's no smell and no bother.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
There you go. Doctor Allen Armidy's is with us this
morning again. Alan armonies dot Net is the website. So
you're going to be in Cultivate, which is a huge
trade show. We go every year. We learned so much.
It's funny how they started as the Ohio Florists Association
and all came together. Always been very strong with the class.
They have always done such a great job of that
and have stuck with that. And of course the trade
(18:04):
show is phenomenal. You see a lot of new plants
et cetera, et cetera. But you will be up there
on Friday to receive another award. Where you're gonna put
these I have no idea but from the garden calm
on Friday night, which congratulations on that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Thank you, Thank you the garden communications people. It's an
award that says I write so that gardeners can understand
what's going on here. You go, I guess you go.
You and I are talking like that, right, So anyway,
it's lovely and I normally it's great, and I normally
only go to the Columbus for like one day, but
(18:43):
just because of this, I'm going up a little earlier.
I'm actually taking my life with me, so it'll be good.
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So he's gonna be hanging around Columbus over the weekend
and on he's gonna be I'm gonna let the cat
out of the bag. He's gonna be walking the show
on Monday. So if you're looking for him, just stand
up a little bit higher. Seeing you see through the crowd,
look for the one guy with a strange hat and
about one hundred people around him as they moved like
(19:08):
a little cloud through the through the aisles, looking at
all the different plants that will be Doctor Allen Apple
armitages right in the middle of that group.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No, believe a word of it, ladies and gentlemen. I'll
be there with my hat on. But plase who come
sail all if you happen to be there.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Does missus Armitage enjoy Does she go to many of these?
Does she enjoy doing this too?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, she has a whole lot more common sense than
most of us. No, she's only coming because I'm done
going a little bit longer. But she this pretty boring
stuff quite truthfully. Unless you're into this stuff anyway, we'll
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I love it to you, Doctor Allan Armitage again. His
website is Alanarmedis dot net. Always a pleasure. We'll see
you in Columbus, sir.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, right, stay in touch and I can't wait to
talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
All right, take care, Doctor Allen Apple Armitage again, alan
Armedies dot net. His garden app's absolutely wonderfully updates it
on a regular basis. I think it's fortnite nine to
download it. But you will love it and you'll have
doctor Allan Armitage in your back pocket. Can't ask for
more than that. Quick break we come back, we'll have
more garden tips for you. Of course, Gary Solomon with
a little home improvement, and then Buggy Joe Boggs. Here
(20:13):
in the garden with Ron Wilson, Green.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Tom or not.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
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