November 29, 2025 • 21 mins
# A Weather-Watching Arborist Shares Tree Wisdom and Winter Forecasts
In this engaging episode, renowned arborist Ron Rothhaas brings his expertise to the garden, discussing everything from the fate of recovering ash trees to the best choices for street tree plantings. With his unique combination of tree knowledge and meteorological insight, Ron offers practical advice for homeowners while sharing his predictions for an unusually snowy December across the Midwest and Northeast.
## Episode Highlights:
**3:15** - Emerald ash borer update: Ron explains that while the insect remains present in smaller numbers, treatment protocols have been extended from every two years to every three years, and some untreated ash trees show surprising resilience.
**9:20** - Street tree selection: Discussion of infrastructure damage from tree roots, with recommendations for black gum and ginkgo over red maple in limited planting spaces.
**12:05** - Winter pruning benefits: Why arborists prefer dormant-season pruning for oaks to prevent oak wilt disease, plus structural pruning tips for young trees.
**18:40** - Winter weather outlook: Detailed forecast of an active storm pattern bringing significant snow to the Midwest, with Cincinnati potentially facing accumulating snow by Tuesday morning.
**21:30** - White Christmas predictions: Ron breaks from his usual "50% chance" stance, suggesting significantly higher odds this year for the Ohio Valley and Northeast regions.
Whether you're managing trees on your property or preparing for winter weather, Ron combines scientific knowledge with practical experience to help you make informed decisions. Listen now to benefit from his decades of expertise in both arboriculture and meteorology!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's time
for a bifurcation of segments. It's time for weather. It's
the weather and in the trees with Ronnie Roethas you
all know Ronnie roethis. He is a registered Consulting Arbist,
is SA board certified Master Arbist, Amateur meteorologists and now
camel racer extraordinaire. His website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen,
(00:23):
mister ron Rothas, good morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good morning, and happy Thanksgiving weekend and happy Ohio state
that tame up North weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Just say it. I'm tired of this, Just say it.
It's Michigan.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I can't yess.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You can't get it out of here, get it out.
We got to get over this stuff. That's the problem,
and everybody lets it get in your head and then
they mess up. Forget it. It's Michigan and we're gonna
take him on. I just dumped that so it never
got out. Oh good, great, Yeah, so you're in that.
You're in that group too. Yes, I get paid very
(01:06):
well from people around here. Get that out of everybody's system.
We're better than they are. Come on, all right, Ron Roth,
It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We are actually, uh, we are better than they are.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We are just forget all that other stuff. We don't
need that anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Now that you're a camel racer extraordin there, what do
you do now at you're back in the United States?
I mean, you're gonna the zoo gonna let you borrow
one of their camels and run them around a zoo
or what?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What that's possible? Actually, I just did a garden talk
or tree talk down at the East Road Garden Club
about a week ago. Which is it down in the
historic section in Newport, Kentucky. And Christina, who's uh kind
of coordinates speakers there is the personal assistant to Saint
(01:56):
Manard at the Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Gardener who should
say Cincinnati but Henne the garden zoos. So if we
want to do camel racing, then we might have an
in there.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know, So I need to get older Christina
Anderson and see if she can set us up.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, you used to take me on some of
your garden talks. Used to.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, well, you know, just saying just get too big,
you just get too big, and sometimes we can't take
the little people anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, I'm the little people and you're the Yeah. Now
you're the official camel racer talking with Ron Roth is
this website arbordoctor dot com just gets serious here. I
got a lot of questions for you. Are you ready?
Don't dwell like buggy Joe Boggs, just uh give us,
give us the lowdown, give us the answer, all right.
And a gentleman called this morning said he's got some
property in northern Kentucky. He's been mowing down therebody's noticed
(02:47):
a lot of ash trees are regrowing, either from the
base of the old stumps or from seeds coming back
up again because he wasting his time mowing around them
and letting them regrow. Being the emerald ash boar is
still in our area, well, of.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Course I listen to your show every Saturday morning, so
I did hear the call, and what you'd told him
was essentially correct, basically that the emerald ashboor insect is
still around. It's around in lesser numbers than it was
because obviously there aren't as many ash trees, but it
is still around. We are still seeing activity in trees
(03:27):
and as those trees grow up, you know, if they
were if they were attacked the first time, they're going
to be attacked a second time eventually. So you know
what you told him. You know that the treatment is
still necessary, but not at the same levels that we
were doing it when the initial wave of emodashboar came along.
(03:51):
You know, we've backed off some the MMC and benzolid
or triage, which is the injectable material. The law of
professestions e is it was an every two year treatment protocol.
We've backed off every three years. Now it's I mean
it's it's working at that level. So uh so you
(04:12):
certainly don't have to treat as intensively, but but certainly
you still need to treat.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
If that was your property and you were mowing it
on a regular basis, would you allow the ash trees
to continue to grow?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Maybe a couple of them or it depends on the
property too. I mean, if they're in the back forty
somewhere and you wanted to experiment with it, you know,
go ahead. I have an a S tree on my
property that I've never treated that I'm just letting it grow. Unfortunately,
got taken over by the by the neighbors with steria vines. Uh,
(04:47):
and I had to kind of cut those back a
little bit, so it's not thriving, but it doesn't have
strong indications of emerald ashbore either. Uh. There's another a
S tree nearby that I am treating, and sometimes you
can get that kind of herd protection where you're treating
one tree and the tree adjacent to it gets some
(05:10):
benefit from that. So I don't know if there's some
of that going on, you know, or not. We are
also seeing a very small percentage of ash trees, I
mean maybe one that do not seem to be getting
the ashboor. They're being referred to as as lingering ash trees.
But the problem is you really can't tell, you know,
(05:32):
except for the fact that you have an ash tree
that's never been infested. You really can't tell if a
given ash tree is a lingering ash tree or not.
And if it's a sprout from an ash tree that
already you know, partially died from the emerald ashboor, you're
going to know that genetically that tree is susceptible.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Talking with Ron Rothiss website, arbordoctor dot com, we're in
the tree segment and we've got some quick questions. We're
asking him to get a little bit of information fireback.
So with you on that and again letting some of
them grow. I would let them grow just to see
what happens, you know, and go from there and maybe
add a few other native plants or whatever back there.
But yeah, i'd let if you grow. That's why I
(06:10):
told him, I'd let if you grow and let it go.
And I'm glad that you actually agreed with me one
time on my answer for that, So thank you very much.
All Right, someone talking about they're at Hoah and they're
replacing their street trees between the street and the sidewalk,
and they have options, and he wanted to know about
the root systems of these trees and which would be
(06:33):
the best for street tree planting. And I look, you know,
I get I really get frustrated, and I think you
probably do too when I see all these trees planted
in this four inch strip between the sidewalk and the curb,
because somewhere down the road, chances are, no matter what
you planted there, they're going to eventually cause damage to
(06:53):
the sidewalk. If the trees survive in an area like that.
Do you agree with me on that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well, some trees seem to be more prone to it
than others. But you really have to be careful how
how big the tree is ultimately going to get. You know,
if the tree is going to have ultimately when it's
a mature tree, if it's going to have a twenty
inch trunk diameter, you don't need a twenty inch area
(07:23):
for the tree. You need three times that. You need
a sixty inch area for the tree, because the flare
at the base is going to flare out if it's
less than you know, sixty inches, that the tree is
going to be having some degree of conflict with the infrastructure.
You know, it may or may not be enough to
(07:43):
raise sidewalks and things like that. But we certainly seem
to see more infrastructure damage from some types of trees
than others. And certainly if you put try to cram
a large tree into a small space, the chances are
of having infrastructure damage are going to be much higher.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'll just kind of throw out there they were looking
at black gum, urban sunset maple and the Princeton century ginko.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I certainly I can't say that I've seen much infrastructure
damage from black gum. I like black gum, you do
have to be a little bit careful with a with
a soil pH It's it's not as tolerant with high
pH soils. But you know, it tends to do fairly
(08:31):
well as a street tree. In fact, I saw black
gum being used as a street tree in Sydney, Australia,
interestingly enough. But the red maple I see a lot
of infrastructure damage from that. It has a very surface
root system. Can't say I've seen as much with with ginko.
(08:51):
Ginko seems to do better when it comes to nearby infrastructure.
So the ginkgo in the black gum I would rate
higher than the than the than the red maple.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Excellent. Talking with Ron rothis his website arbordoctor dot com.
Obviously he is the arbor doctor taking care of your trees,
one last one for you this time of the year.
Why are arborst doing more pruning on oaks than they
do in the spring or summer season.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Well, there's a disease out there called oak wilt. Haven't
seen much of it in Cincinnati proper or the immediate
Cincinnati area, but certainly other areas of the Midwest, northern Ohio, Michigan, Ohs.
I said it darn told you, you know. Other certainly
up in the Minnesota Wisconsin, I've seen a lot more
(09:44):
of it. And one of the recommendations for oak wilt
is that you don't purn the trees from the March
through August March through September time period because there is
a beetle that vectors the disease that gets attracted to
the tree when when it's pruned, so so pruning it
during that during that growing season can attract the beetle
(10:07):
to the tree that can vector the disease, and oak
will is a fatal disease of oak trees and can
strike a tree fairly quickly. The other thing about pruning
this time of the year, just to just a kind
of dovetail on that, is that with the leaves down,
it's a great time of the year to do structural
pruning of trees, especially your young trees. Trees have a
(10:29):
tendency to like to develop double leaders, in other words,
two trunks kind of growing parallel to each other. And
when that happens, as the tree matures and those leaders
get a lot heavier, you get to have a much
higher splitting potential if if they're growing, you know, codominantly
(10:52):
like that. So if you do have a small tree
that's developing two leaders, you want to kind of pick
one and either cut the other one off completely or
do what we call subordination, where you cut it back
maybe a third of the way to a horionally growing leader.
The other thing you want to do with the younger
tree is look at the overall structure of the tree
(11:15):
and branches that are coming out of the trunk. Kind
of use your imagination a little bit and decide what
the ultimate height is that you want that tree limbed
up to. In any tree that's coming off of the trunk,
any limb that's coming off the trunk below that ultimate
height you can consider a temporary limb. You don't want
(11:37):
to print it off at this point because it's providing
photosynthetic production for the tree, which is food for the tree.
But you want to make sure that those branches that
are below that ultimate height area, those temporary branches are
growing more horizontally and not growing vertically up into the canopy,
so that when you eventually do prin them off, you
(11:59):
don't want to be taking a big chunk out of
the canopy. So so leave them, leave them on, but
keep them, you know, kind of horizontal, and then gradually
prim them off from the bottom up is the is
the canopy develops. And as the canopy develops, with that
one single leader talking.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
With Ron roths his website arbordoctor dot com. He's a
registered consulting Arborist, I s a board certified Master arbistuh.
He's a media amateur meteorologist and a camel racer extraordinaire.
Now he's back from Australia. We're going to take a break.
We come back with a little switch hats and we'll
take a look at the weather here in the garden
with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (14:19):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning, The arbor doc Ron Roethlis is a
website arbordoctor dot com talking about trees. Now we're gonna
switch the hat around and now the front of the
bill says uh forecaster amateur meteorologists. So let's take a
look at the weather, and it looks like I got
some storms blowing through in the next couple of days.
(14:40):
But what do you see in next week?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well, the next day or two, it looks like quite
a winter storm. And Iowa, northern two thirds of Illinois,
northern half of Indiana, northwest, Ohio, southwest, and most of
the stayed up north and southern Wisconsin. They could get
(15:05):
six to twelve and even a little bit more snow
in those areas, and that snow may be moving into
an arbor this afternoon, at least the beginnings of it,
although I think the heavier snow will be moving into
that area after the game. From a standpoint of our area,
this storm is going to mainly stay north of Cincinnati,
(15:27):
north of the Ohio River. There is going to be
a little bit of light snow and rain mixed. We
may get a dusting or something on the grass or
maybe even a nanch especially the northern suburbs, but it's
not going to be a whole lot. The cold pattern
continues and another storm system is going to be moving
up the Ohio Valley Monday night into Tuesday, and this
(15:49):
one has a more favorable track. The models haven't totally
locked in on it yet, but it does look like
we're going to get accumulating snow. Monday night into Tuesday
could get I mean, we had the potential to get
several inches, although it could still be an inch. I mean,
it's kind of hard to tell right now, but certainly
if you're in the Cincinnati area or anywhere in the
(16:11):
Ohio Valley, really anywhere in the state of Ohio, southern Indiana,
and northern Kentucky, I would keep your eyes on the
Tuesday morning rush hour because it could be quite tricky.
Beyond that, the cold pattern continues and more storm systems.
You know this this early, it's it's hard to say
(16:31):
what the track's going to be. But even looking at
the three to four week outlook, which takes us to Christmas,
the cold pattern continues with a very active storm track.
So I would have to say that this year the
chances of the white Christmas. I mean, obviously we can't
predict what Christmas Day is going to be like this
(16:52):
far in advance, but let me let me.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Say this before you say anything. You've always your prediction
has always been a fifty.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Chands, but we're above that this year. I would say, wow,
at least at least from a historical perspective. And normally,
you know, the average chance of the white Christmas in
Cincinnati proper is probably only you know, twenty percent, but
we're certainly above that twenty percent this year. And I'd say,
you know, we could be at fifty percent or even
(17:21):
higher this year, but certainly higher than the normal year.
I mean, there's certainly more of a chance of the
white Christmas this year given this, given the weather pattern
in the month of December, than there would be in
your average year, considerably higher chance. And that goes for
really the northern and the northeastern part of the country.
(17:44):
So anywhere from the northern Plains down into the Great Lakes,
Ohio Valley over to the East Coast and New England
are all going to be below normal with above normal
precipitation expected all the way through Christmas. So a lot
of areas are have a better than a lot of
(18:05):
those areas are going to have a better than normal
chance of a white Christmas. Now you go into the south,
you know, Gary well, obviously Gary Bachmann doesn't get much
know the last year they did, Yeah, very little chance
of it. Uh, you know, even you know, if i'd
say from Tennessee south, it's going to be warmer than
normal with if anything below normal precipitation. In fact, there's
(18:30):
some projections that that the drought could be developing and
areas that don't already have drought in the southeast. In
parts of the South, so above normal precipitation near High Valley,
no drought here, although northwest Ohio and northern Indiana have
been in severe to extreme drought conditions the entire fall.
(18:51):
That's been eased up by some recent precipitation. But there's
been some really really severe drought this year north of Cincinnati,
up in the up in the northwest Ohio, northern Indiana,
it's been really quite quite severe.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
This year's Talking to Jerry Rose, our giant pumpkin grower,
on Thanksgiving Day, he was they were having a white Christmas.
That's is it Huntsburg, northeast northeastern Ohio, and he said
it was coming down pretty good there, so they were
going to have a white Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah. The with the warmer weather, the warmer on September
and part of October that we had the Great Lakes
were really really warm, and with this when this cold
air came down over the Great Lakes, it crank cranked
up the Lake Effect snow machine and they had some
pretty impressive snowfall totals in northeast Ohio and northwest Pennsylvania.
(19:47):
I have a friend who has a cottage up in Corey, Pennsylvania,
and she was sending me pictures of the snow. Wrote
a deep snow that they had there their cottage up
there for Thanksgiving. It is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So the snowboard is out at the rothas Uh Weather Station.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Absolutely, the snow pivote is out, and the TV is
cranked up for this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So you think that the Bucks will the snow will
hold off long enough for them to get on the
bus and get out and come back to Ohio.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I don't know about that. I think they're gonna have
it's going to be snowing pretty good by the end
of the game up there.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, all right, there you go, run roth It's always
a pleasure again this website arbordoctor dot com. Thank you sir,
having great weekend. Go Bucks, Hey, go Bucks, thank you.
All right, quick break we come back. Phone lines you're
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(20:57):
is your garden growing?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Cal Ron now one eight hundred eighty two three talk
you're listening to In the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's time
for a bifurcation of segments. It's time for weather. It's
the weather and in the trees with Ronnie Roethas you
all know Ronnie roethis. He is a registered Consulting Arbist,
is SA board certified Master Arbist, Amateur meteorologists and now
camel racer extraordinaire. His website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen,
(00:23):
mister ron Rothas, good morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good morning, and happy Thanksgiving weekend and happy Ohio state
that tame up North weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Just say it. I'm tired of this, Just say it.
It's Michigan.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I can't yess.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You can't get it out of here, get it out.
We got to get over this stuff. That's the problem,
and everybody lets it get in your head and then
they mess up. Forget it. It's Michigan and we're gonna
take him on. I just dumped that so it never
got out. Oh good, great, Yeah, so you're in that.
You're in that group too. Yes, I get paid very
(01:06):
well from people around here. Get that out of everybody's system.
We're better than they are. Come on, all right, Ron Roth,
It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We are actually, uh, we are better than they are.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We are just forget all that other stuff. We don't
need that anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Now that you're a camel racer extraordin there, what do
you do now at you're back in the United States?
I mean, you're gonna the zoo gonna let you borrow
one of their camels and run them around a zoo
or what?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What that's possible? Actually, I just did a garden talk
or tree talk down at the East Road Garden Club
about a week ago. Which is it down in the
historic section in Newport, Kentucky. And Christina, who's uh kind
of coordinates speakers there is the personal assistant to Saint
(01:56):
Manard at the Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Gardener who should
say Cincinnati but Henne the garden zoos. So if we
want to do camel racing, then we might have an
in there.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know, So I need to get older Christina
Anderson and see if she can set us up.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, you used to take me on some of
your garden talks. Used to.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, well, you know, just saying just get too big,
you just get too big, and sometimes we can't take
the little people anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, I'm the little people and you're the Yeah. Now
you're the official camel racer talking with Ron Roth is
this website arbordoctor dot com just gets serious here. I
got a lot of questions for you. Are you ready?
Don't dwell like buggy Joe Boggs, just uh give us,
give us the lowdown, give us the answer, all right.
And a gentleman called this morning said he's got some
property in northern Kentucky. He's been mowing down therebody's noticed
(02:47):
a lot of ash trees are regrowing, either from the
base of the old stumps or from seeds coming back
up again because he wasting his time mowing around them
and letting them regrow. Being the emerald ash boar is
still in our area, well, of.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Course I listen to your show every Saturday morning, so
I did hear the call, and what you'd told him
was essentially correct, basically that the emerald ashboor insect is
still around. It's around in lesser numbers than it was
because obviously there aren't as many ash trees, but it
is still around. We are still seeing activity in trees
(03:27):
and as those trees grow up, you know, if they
were if they were attacked the first time, they're going
to be attacked a second time eventually. So you know
what you told him. You know that the treatment is
still necessary, but not at the same levels that we
were doing it when the initial wave of emodashboar came along.
(03:51):
You know, we've backed off some the MMC and benzolid
or triage, which is the injectable material. The law of
professestions e is it was an every two year treatment protocol.
We've backed off every three years. Now it's I mean
it's it's working at that level. So uh so you
(04:12):
certainly don't have to treat as intensively, but but certainly
you still need to treat.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
If that was your property and you were mowing it
on a regular basis, would you allow the ash trees
to continue to grow?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Maybe a couple of them or it depends on the
property too. I mean, if they're in the back forty
somewhere and you wanted to experiment with it, you know,
go ahead. I have an a S tree on my
property that I've never treated that I'm just letting it grow. Unfortunately,
got taken over by the by the neighbors with steria vines. Uh,
(04:47):
and I had to kind of cut those back a
little bit, so it's not thriving, but it doesn't have
strong indications of emerald ashbore either. Uh. There's another a
S tree nearby that I am treating, and sometimes you
can get that kind of herd protection where you're treating
one tree and the tree adjacent to it gets some
(05:10):
benefit from that. So I don't know if there's some
of that going on, you know, or not. We are
also seeing a very small percentage of ash trees, I
mean maybe one that do not seem to be getting
the ashboor. They're being referred to as as lingering ash trees.
But the problem is you really can't tell, you know,
(05:32):
except for the fact that you have an ash tree
that's never been infested. You really can't tell if a
given ash tree is a lingering ash tree or not.
And if it's a sprout from an ash tree that
already you know, partially died from the emerald ashboor, you're
going to know that genetically that tree is susceptible.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Talking with Ron Rothiss website, arbordoctor dot com, we're in
the tree segment and we've got some quick questions. We're
asking him to get a little bit of information fireback.
So with you on that and again letting some of
them grow. I would let them grow just to see
what happens, you know, and go from there and maybe
add a few other native plants or whatever back there.
But yeah, i'd let if you grow. That's why I
(06:10):
told him, I'd let if you grow and let it go.
And I'm glad that you actually agreed with me one
time on my answer for that, So thank you very much.
All Right, someone talking about they're at Hoah and they're
replacing their street trees between the street and the sidewalk,
and they have options, and he wanted to know about
the root systems of these trees and which would be
(06:33):
the best for street tree planting. And I look, you know,
I get I really get frustrated, and I think you
probably do too when I see all these trees planted
in this four inch strip between the sidewalk and the curb,
because somewhere down the road, chances are, no matter what
you planted there, they're going to eventually cause damage to
(06:53):
the sidewalk. If the trees survive in an area like that.
Do you agree with me on that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well, some trees seem to be more prone to it
than others. But you really have to be careful how
how big the tree is ultimately going to get. You know,
if the tree is going to have ultimately when it's
a mature tree, if it's going to have a twenty
inch trunk diameter, you don't need a twenty inch area
(07:23):
for the tree. You need three times that. You need
a sixty inch area for the tree, because the flare
at the base is going to flare out if it's
less than you know, sixty inches, that the tree is
going to be having some degree of conflict with the infrastructure.
You know, it may or may not be enough to
(07:43):
raise sidewalks and things like that. But we certainly seem
to see more infrastructure damage from some types of trees
than others. And certainly if you put try to cram
a large tree into a small space, the chances are
of having infrastructure damage are going to be much higher.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'll just kind of throw out there they were looking
at black gum, urban sunset maple and the Princeton century ginko.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I certainly I can't say that I've seen much infrastructure
damage from black gum. I like black gum, you do
have to be a little bit careful with a with
a soil pH It's it's not as tolerant with high
pH soils. But you know, it tends to do fairly
(08:31):
well as a street tree. In fact, I saw black
gum being used as a street tree in Sydney, Australia,
interestingly enough. But the red maple I see a lot
of infrastructure damage from that. It has a very surface
root system. Can't say I've seen as much with with ginko.
(08:51):
Ginko seems to do better when it comes to nearby infrastructure.
So the ginkgo in the black gum I would rate
higher than the than the than the red maple.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Excellent. Talking with Ron rothis his website arbordoctor dot com.
Obviously he is the arbor doctor taking care of your trees,
one last one for you this time of the year.
Why are arborst doing more pruning on oaks than they
do in the spring or summer season.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Well, there's a disease out there called oak wilt. Haven't
seen much of it in Cincinnati proper or the immediate
Cincinnati area, but certainly other areas of the Midwest, northern Ohio, Michigan, Ohs.
I said it darn told you, you know. Other certainly
up in the Minnesota Wisconsin, I've seen a lot more
(09:44):
of it. And one of the recommendations for oak wilt
is that you don't purn the trees from the March
through August March through September time period because there is
a beetle that vectors the disease that gets attracted to
the tree when when it's pruned, so so pruning it
during that during that growing season can attract the beetle
(10:07):
to the tree that can vector the disease, and oak
will is a fatal disease of oak trees and can
strike a tree fairly quickly. The other thing about pruning
this time of the year, just to just a kind
of dovetail on that, is that with the leaves down,
it's a great time of the year to do structural
pruning of trees, especially your young trees. Trees have a
(10:29):
tendency to like to develop double leaders, in other words,
two trunks kind of growing parallel to each other. And
when that happens, as the tree matures and those leaders
get a lot heavier, you get to have a much
higher splitting potential if if they're growing, you know, codominantly
(10:52):
like that. So if you do have a small tree
that's developing two leaders, you want to kind of pick
one and either cut the other one off completely or
do what we call subordination, where you cut it back
maybe a third of the way to a horionally growing leader.
The other thing you want to do with the younger
tree is look at the overall structure of the tree
(11:15):
and branches that are coming out of the trunk. Kind
of use your imagination a little bit and decide what
the ultimate height is that you want that tree limbed
up to. In any tree that's coming off of the trunk,
any limb that's coming off the trunk below that ultimate
height you can consider a temporary limb. You don't want
(11:37):
to print it off at this point because it's providing
photosynthetic production for the tree, which is food for the tree.
But you want to make sure that those branches that
are below that ultimate height area, those temporary branches are
growing more horizontally and not growing vertically up into the canopy,
so that when you eventually do prin them off, you
(11:59):
don't want to be taking a big chunk out of
the canopy. So so leave them, leave them on, but
keep them, you know, kind of horizontal, and then gradually
prim them off from the bottom up is the is
the canopy develops. And as the canopy develops, with that
one single leader talking.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
With Ron roths his website arbordoctor dot com. He's a
registered consulting Arborist, I s a board certified Master arbistuh.
He's a media amateur meteorologist and a camel racer extraordinaire.
Now he's back from Australia. We're going to take a break.
We come back with a little switch hats and we'll
take a look at the weather here in the garden
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Speaker 1 (14:19):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning, The arbor doc Ron Roethlis is a
website arbordoctor dot com talking about trees. Now we're gonna
switch the hat around and now the front of the
bill says uh forecaster amateur meteorologists. So let's take a
look at the weather, and it looks like I got
some storms blowing through in the next couple of days.
(14:40):
But what do you see in next week?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well, the next day or two, it looks like quite
a winter storm. And Iowa, northern two thirds of Illinois,
northern half of Indiana, northwest, Ohio, southwest, and most of
the stayed up north and southern Wisconsin. They could get
(15:05):
six to twelve and even a little bit more snow
in those areas, and that snow may be moving into
an arbor this afternoon, at least the beginnings of it,
although I think the heavier snow will be moving into
that area after the game. From a standpoint of our area,
this storm is going to mainly stay north of Cincinnati,
(15:27):
north of the Ohio River. There is going to be
a little bit of light snow and rain mixed. We
may get a dusting or something on the grass or
maybe even a nanch especially the northern suburbs, but it's
not going to be a whole lot. The cold pattern
continues and another storm system is going to be moving
up the Ohio Valley Monday night into Tuesday, and this
(15:49):
one has a more favorable track. The models haven't totally
locked in on it yet, but it does look like
we're going to get accumulating snow. Monday night into Tuesday
could get I mean, we had the potential to get
several inches, although it could still be an inch. I mean,
it's kind of hard to tell right now, but certainly
if you're in the Cincinnati area or anywhere in the
(16:11):
Ohio Valley, really anywhere in the state of Ohio, southern Indiana,
and northern Kentucky, I would keep your eyes on the
Tuesday morning rush hour because it could be quite tricky.
Beyond that, the cold pattern continues and more storm systems.
You know this this early, it's it's hard to say
(16:31):
what the track's going to be. But even looking at
the three to four week outlook, which takes us to Christmas,
the cold pattern continues with a very active storm track.
So I would have to say that this year the
chances of the white Christmas. I mean, obviously we can't
predict what Christmas Day is going to be like this
(16:52):
far in advance, but let me let me.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Say this before you say anything. You've always your prediction
has always been a fifty.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Chands, but we're above that this year. I would say, wow,
at least at least from a historical perspective. And normally,
you know, the average chance of the white Christmas in
Cincinnati proper is probably only you know, twenty percent, but
we're certainly above that twenty percent this year. And I'd say,
you know, we could be at fifty percent or even
(17:21):
higher this year, but certainly higher than the normal year.
I mean, there's certainly more of a chance of the
white Christmas this year given this, given the weather pattern
in the month of December, than there would be in
your average year, considerably higher chance. And that goes for
really the northern and the northeastern part of the country.
(17:44):
So anywhere from the northern Plains down into the Great Lakes,
Ohio Valley over to the East Coast and New England
are all going to be below normal with above normal
precipitation expected all the way through Christmas. So a lot
of areas are have a better than a lot of
(18:05):
those areas are going to have a better than normal
chance of a white Christmas. Now you go into the south,
you know, Gary well, obviously Gary Bachmann doesn't get much
know the last year they did, Yeah, very little chance
of it. Uh, you know, even you know, if i'd
say from Tennessee south, it's going to be warmer than
normal with if anything below normal precipitation. In fact, there's
(18:30):
some projections that that the drought could be developing and
areas that don't already have drought in the southeast. In
parts of the South, so above normal precipitation near High Valley,
no drought here, although northwest Ohio and northern Indiana have
been in severe to extreme drought conditions the entire fall.
(18:51):
That's been eased up by some recent precipitation. But there's
been some really really severe drought this year north of Cincinnati,
up in the up in the northwest Ohio, northern Indiana,
it's been really quite quite severe.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
This year's Talking to Jerry Rose, our giant pumpkin grower,
on Thanksgiving Day, he was they were having a white Christmas.
That's is it Huntsburg, northeast northeastern Ohio, and he said
it was coming down pretty good there, so they were
going to have a white Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah. The with the warmer weather, the warmer on September
and part of October that we had the Great Lakes
were really really warm, and with this when this cold
air came down over the Great Lakes, it crank cranked
up the Lake Effect snow machine and they had some
pretty impressive snowfall totals in northeast Ohio and northwest Pennsylvania.
(19:47):
I have a friend who has a cottage up in Corey, Pennsylvania,
and she was sending me pictures of the snow. Wrote
a deep snow that they had there their cottage up
there for Thanksgiving. It is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So the snowboard is out at the rothas Uh Weather Station.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Absolutely, the snow pivote is out, and the TV is
cranked up for this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So you think that the Bucks will the snow will
hold off long enough for them to get on the
bus and get out and come back to Ohio.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I don't know about that. I think they're gonna have
it's going to be snowing pretty good by the end
of the game up there.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, all right, there you go, run roth It's always
a pleasure again this website arbordoctor dot com. Thank you sir,
having great weekend. Go Bucks, Hey, go Bucks, thank you.
All right, quick break we come back. Phone lines you're
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