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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
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(00:21):
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eating Ladies and Gentlemen. She loves eating weeds from the
lawn and garden. Let's all welcome, Rita Nader hikenfelve you

(00:47):
got them lined up this morning?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, you know, regardless, that just makes me feel so good.
Whether it's true or not, I'm smiling right now, and
I'm so happy to talk to you too, by the way,
mister Wilson, because I hope we have time. Somebody sent
me some really fun seeds. I got them in the
mail yesterday, so really I'm I'm ready for spring.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Are you Did you get anything special?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Did I get any speciale yes, yes, yes, yes, one
of the most specials. It's it's called balsam pear vine,
commonly known as bitter melon, and I have grown those before,
but I've never grown them from seeds, and it's just beautiful.
It's very It's a like a an heirloom plant that

(01:37):
Thomas Jefferson grew, and it's really pretty because it starts
out green like a melon with bumps, and then it
burst into a beautiful color orange. So anxious to grow
that from seeds. And I have dear tongue lettuce.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Have you had that before?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
No? No, no, no. So those are two that I'm
very excited about. And I know you sent them because
even if I didn't recognize the address, I would recognize
your writing very distinctive.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
So thank you for that to have somebody trying to
figure out what it says.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, yeah, No, your printing is very good. I don't
think I've ever seen your cursive, but your printing is good,
So thank you. I got a bunch of really fun
things from tobacco plants and a new melon. It's called
plumb Granny Annie's pocket melons.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
You've never grown that.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I have grown smaller ones, but not this variety. Yeah,
I'm very excited about it.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
They they were out of broom corn already by the
time I got there.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh no kidding.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
If you went and I was at the Columbus Home
Garden Show last weekend, and this is Circa Plants, Circa Seeds,
and they're in Logan, Ohio. They do all heirloom seeds
and of course they have the stories to go with
their seeds as well, which is really cool. And so
as soon as I got done with the show up there,
I went over to their booth and they were already
picked out of that and Cincinnati radishes. It's just a

(03:08):
market ratish, but they're gonna send me some, so I
am on back order. But yeah, it's always and you
would just go nuts walk going through and looking all that.
But the broomcorn, the Cincinnati market ratish, and a couple
other things that I usually get you they were already
out of it. So but it's a lot of fun.
I always enjoy it. But yeah, I'm look curious to
see how the how those that that cucumber thing works out.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
For you the quickly well yeah, the bitter melon, yeah yeah,
and it's a vining. It's so it'll be it'll be fun.
I'm sure it'll be beautiful. So I will try all
that out for you and enjoy eating the fruit as well.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Of course, mister Hikenfeld loves planning. That kissed me over
the gate.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
You know that. It's been a while since I've had that. Yeah,
kiss me over the gate. That beautiful red flowering vining
plant too. It's just something different, and as you said,
the name, they're so descriptive the stories that go along
with them. People should grow some of those old fashioned
heirloom plants and it's again fun to grow and you
learn something as well.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, go to their website. It's Circus Seeds dot com
and you'll love it. But the new tomato, which I
had already put on our list for growing this year
but Brandon was really impressed when he grew it last year,
is called big Dwarf. Now that doesn't make sense, right,
big dwarf, But it's a dwarf indeterminate, so it keeps
flowering all summer long. Love that big meaty tomato. And

(04:30):
surprisingly enough I had added at to our list of
tomatoes this year and he said it was absolutely outstanding,
So I'm looking. I can't wait to grow that one
as well. Talking with Rito Hikenfelder website about eating dot com.
Recipe this week which you'll find on our website at
Ryan Wilson online dot com. Huevos ranceros, which I absolutely
love to get at the Mexican restaurant right down the
street from us. They do an outstanding job, but now

(04:52):
I can do it myself.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's that's very true. And I heard that Joe loves
that kind of food too, and burritos and and Cerro's.
The huevos the ranch are called farm ranch eggs. They
have all those wonderful flavors, easy to make and just
something fun, beautiful on a plate. And that uses the
herb we're going to be talking about today. Cilantro, so
a key ingredient.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
In there too, you know what, And I like it
and you don't think about it, but they serve you
the scrambled eggs and the cilantro and everything mixed together.
Then they had the beans on the side, a little
bit of fried rice and it's a great combination.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, you've got your protein, you've got your carbs, you've
got your vitamins, and it's fun. The recipe that I'm sharing.
The sauce is good. It's tomatoes and cilantro and onion
and garlic and jalapeno pepper that you cook up and
then on and set it aside. Then you cook some
chiriso and I use the raw chriso, not the cure,

(05:50):
just sort of like hamburger, and you cook that up
and add that to the sauce, and then you smear
some re refried beans on a corn tortilla and then
you pop it with excuse me, the ranchero mixture and
a scrambled egg or a fried egg. I like to scramble,
not crazy about the runny eggs, and then you can

(06:11):
just put some cheese and your favorite avocado cilantro on it.
Really hearty and as I said, got a a lot
of good nutrients in it. The reef fried beans can
be vegetarian or not depending, So again, a nice hearty
meal and beautiful on the plate and something to spark
up these winter days, don't you think?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I think so. And of course having four eggs in it,
that means it'll cost you twenty five dollars.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh my gosh, our girl finally laying unless you at.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
The hike and fell at home where you and of
course then you have to keep an eye on those now.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I know they people.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Are gonna start raiding the henhouses, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And not a four legged creature either, huh no, No.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
And you know what, Yeah, I think it's interesting. Of course,
you've been raising chickens forever, and we did it when
I was a kid. But know as that folks started
getting into two backyard chickens about what fifteen years ago?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Ten years ago? Yeah, and now.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Look, you know, it's kind of they're probably thankful that
they did if they've stuck with it, because they're they're
getting eggs, uh, you know, and maybe selling a dozen
for what six bucks or something out there.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I don't know, but yep, they said that you can
now rent chickens. I saw it. I saw that chickens
for laying eggs, they bring you.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Two to three hens and a coop. Yeah, that's what
you and mister hiking felt ought to get into.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I know, a new cottage industry. Don't tempt me here,
don't tempt him. No, he would do it in a flash.
He could be out to annoyed.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, he could be out there building these little coops and.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Travel around telling my girls, no, put.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Them in the back of the truck, of his truck
and take them out there and set them up.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, and you never know, I might be in one
of those little coops. So we're gonna stay away from that.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Instead of mister Hiking and mister Haney would be hiking
FELSU love it talking with Rita Hiking Fell And of
course we want to see your recipe for this week.
It's huevos rancheros uh and it's on our website at
Ron Wilson online dot com. We come back. We're gonna
every other week we're featuring an herb of the week,
and this week, of course, in this ingredient, the key

(08:20):
is uh celantrou and we are going to come back
and talk more about celantrou. Here in the garden with
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Talking Yardening at eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five Rita nat or Hikenfeld, whether it's this
morning for are you urbally experienced her web or recipe
this week is well wavos aroncheros, and of course it
features celan throw. And that's what we're going to talk
about this morning, is cilantro.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's a wonderful herb and such a spring like herb.
It just reminds me of spring.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Don't you think it reminds me of I'm just it
reminds me of you.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I wonder why, because we have spoken so much about
that herb and one of my favorite herbs.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
When I walk through the produce department at the grocery store,
I think of you right right right with cilantro and
the parsley and the rosemary and all the herbs and
all of that. And then you know, and traveling and
going to giving garden talks and stuff, our vehicles always
smelled of herbs and spices and things.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
So nice and cleansing as well.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yes, indeed, absolutely so. Why does why does some folks?
Why do some folks love celantro like I do? And
other folks just can't stand it because they say it
like soap? What's the deal there?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, it's a constituent in cilantro. That's a very sort
of a strong flavor. It actually does taste like soap
if you I always compare it to tarragon if you
eat too much. So some people really embrace the flavor.
Others don't like it at all. So a little goes
a long way, and I just love it. And when

(12:24):
you chop up cilantro too, you should use a sharp knife,
not a dull knife. And the reason is it's very tender.
It's very tender herbs, so you don't want to bruise
those leaves and stems and lose all the volatile oils.
And it's one of the few plants that, regardless of
where you get it or how you grow it, you

(12:45):
can always use the stems because they always seem to
be tender enough. But it's just a lovely spring green
and a look when you said you see it in
the produce department, mister Wilson, next to the parsley. Unless
you have a real good eye, once in a while
they look so similar from a distance you might pick
up one for the other. So the only way to

(13:06):
really know is just pluck off a leaf and give
it a little sniff or taste. So yeah, Cilantro is
a wonderful herb. It's a cool weather herbit does not like.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hot weather, which is always a situation because folks like
to grow it. But the problem is once they start
to grow it and the temperatures get hot, it bolts
right away. And then of course when it bolts, it
turns it the foliage is different, and then it goes
to sea flowers and it seeds, and of course the seeds,
if it does happen, are very much, very usable in

(13:36):
your spices.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oh yeah, it's one of the herbs that's a spice
and an herbal in one because the green part the
cilantro are the leaves and the flowers, and then when
it seeds out it's called coriander. And you know, it's
funny because they even have different flavor profiles. To me,
cilantros sort of has like a citrusy green tape, but

(13:59):
now coriander is more of a lemony caste. In the seed.
I have to say, if you grow cilantro and save
some of the seeds, you don't want to grind them
up till right before you use them because the seed
it loses its flavor pretty quick and if I grind
up coriander seeds, I'll keep them in the freezer. But
if you let, as I said, a few of the

(14:21):
plants go to seed, and say in the fall. By
spring they'll be popping up just like dill. And they
do like cool weather, so it's not a hot weather
plant in our area. And then there's some different what
we call different kinds of cilantro, Vietnamese coriander and culantro,

(14:42):
which are I always say their cousins. They're not of
the same plant family, very strongly flavored and take to
our Midwestern heat. So different varieties. But what most people
are familiar with and what you're going to get in
your juivero's rancero's are is the cilantro, the little greenberry

(15:03):
tender one.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I actually looked I was doing some research myself on
cilantro because that was kind of interesting. There's actually nineteen
varieties cilantro available on the market, of which are some
are slow bolt, so they will stand the heat a
little bit better for you, so you might be able
to find those. I thought it was also interesting they
were describing the flavor from citrusy to bit tangy, to
soapy to that of crushed bed bugs.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Oh gosh, okay, well I've never had the latter, so
I could not speak to that, thankfully. Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
The scientific names derived from the Greek chorus or coriander
or cilantro, which means bug or nat.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, isn't that that's interesting? And the way the description is,
it's so well descriptive you can almost visualize that. But
it's a fun orb to grow. And when you said
the slow bolting varieties, there's one called Santo s Anto
which has a lot of leaf production before it decides
to fly and go to seed. So that might be
one that you might like too. But again, successive plantings

(16:06):
are always the way to go if you want it
all year, you know, during the season in your gardener
and your containers.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, if you just sew that and harvest it when
it's about six inches tall so more, and harvest it again,
or even grow it as a microgreen. Uh, you know,
you harvest it before it starts to bold and flower,
you know, And that does work. It's a little bit
a little bit of work for you, but it does work,
you know. I was also I'm surprised at one time
was used. I guess in the Egyptian tombs.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh yeah, well you know what they found, Yeah, when
I was quite young, when you were, mister Wilson. Yeah,
the coriander seeds. The seed of the plant is so
viable that they have found them in Egyptian tombs and
they were viable. So if you have a can of
coriander seeds a bottle in your pantry, feel free to

(16:57):
go out and plant those because most likely they will
be again viable enough to sprout. But when you were
talking about cilantro, there's so many good health benefits too.
It's got a lot of calcium and vitamin C, and
it's capable of actually helping to destroy viruses and germs

(17:17):
that cause colds ani amflammatory. There's so many wonderful benefits,
which is why a lot of the Asian soups like
fu which is pho. It sounds like you would say
it foe, but it's called they have used cilantro and
added the last couple minutes or use it raw and

(17:39):
you'll get all the health benefits plus that wonderful flavor.
So it's just wonderful to use. And when you think
of there's not a herb on the planet I don't
believe that does your body good. Doesn't do your body good,
excuse me. And Cilantro is one of those that are
just wonderful.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
So I also found a some of the many as well.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Is that right? I don't know that either. Well, hey,
you try it and let.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Us know how that got about a minute ago. Are
you giving a class this next week at the Pollinators
Project at the Barn in.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
The Marie Mont Yet, Actually, I am going to be
doing that today, and today's got to mention it to you. Yeah,
it's the Pollinators Project, be friendly, and it's by the
Women's Art Club Cultural Center, and it's on Cambridge Avenue,
right where I grew up. So I'm going to be
doing presentation on herbs for a suburban garden. And I'm

(18:35):
going to concentrate on what we call the simples, which
are the herbs grown way back then with a specific purpose,
like one main purpose, and they were called the still roomors,
the herbs of settlers brought for medicinal purposes and for
culinary purposes way back when. Again, so it'll be a
fun presentation because a lot of our herbs like bathel

(18:58):
and cybe, all those go way back and have wonderful
medicinal qualities as well as take great and that's at.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
One o'clock today at the Pollinators Project at the Barn,
Cambridge Avenue and Mariemont check it out. Reader Hickenfeld will
be there. If you want to meet and greet, she'll
be there for you. Rita Hikenfeld always a pleasure. Tell
mister Hickenfeld be.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Said hello, I will he's lyon state. I'll talk to
you soon.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
There you go take here. Coming up next we'll talk
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