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December 27, 2025 • 8 mins

Ron and Gary help tackle Scott's home improvement question about a water heater issue. Scott's water heater is leaking sporadically through the overflow vent, and he's wondering if an expansion tank could be the solution. Ron shares his expertise, explaining that an expansion tank can help relieve pressure and prevent leaks. They also discuss the importance of checking water pressure and replacing old water heaters. With Gary's guidance, Scott's problem might just be solved.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson's time
for the Man, the myth, the legend. He is the
most listened to AM improvement show, hosting the entire now
I'm talking entire solar system. His website, Gary Sullivan Online
dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the only Gary.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Summer I had, mister Wilson, Hall old.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Are you? I am doing great? I had a little dilemma.
Somebody emailed me and said they went out and bought
their hollowed chocolate chocolate Santa Clauses got him back and
they all had a little crack in them hmmm king.
And I said, well, Gary would probably That's what I said.
Gary would probably tell you to put a little coking

(00:44):
in there.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well you know what coking is, It's just smelted chocolate.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
He just brushing on. What do you think I did?
You say you had a dilemma.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Or they had they had the dilemma? Oh's asking me, lemon, No, no, no,
asking me how to take care of it? And I said,
you know, drink it the way I would look at it.
Then I would just freeze it. What my my Bourbon
trace cream in the in a cup and I would
take a bite and drink the bourbon cream.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
That sounds fair to me.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I mean that way doesn't spill out everywhere, and you're
good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
So a couple of days ago, did you feel like
a sloth.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
When I looked in the mirror or what?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
No? No, I mean you kind of just kept going
to the feed table and then oh, back to the
couch and well there.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You stayed up late on Christmas. Even then you get
up early and you pack everything up and you go
to the grand kids and then you go through and
which is fun. It's a blanky Nope, not one no.
Oh yesterday, yes, but not Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
And I didn't mean Christmas Day either. I was still
being a sloth.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
But okay, yeah, but then you do oh, I collapse.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
We made it about midday.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's a rule at our house of the day after
Christmas is a do nothing day.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I kind of agree with that.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I had to come down to the station to do
something real quick. But other than that, and I did
that took me an hour. And other than that, literally
we did absolutely z row good for you. Did I nap? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah? Did you nap? Laying down her straight up.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I was in the recliner and sometimes I was up
and sometimes I was there.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
You go, there you go, Well you're normal. Yeah, I've
debated that I had yours, but you're normal.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Every now and then I had to get up let
the dog out once she scratched, and then we got
into an argument whose turn it was?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
So if you had the request from anybody, said Ron, Ron,
can you come in here and look at this? I
think something is wrong?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
You a no, yep out?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know the rules for the day afterwards? Yeah, how
about you? Scott Berlin, Yeah, I crashed. Yeah, see there
you go, he crashed too.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
They're gonna name that. They're gonna, you know, the heck
with his crash.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Day well Sully day, Well it could be that too.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Did they really have cracks in her? Santa?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
That's what he said. He got that's harm breaking. Took
him the package and both of them were cracked. Take
them back. So anyway, he wanted to let you know
that two of his were cracked.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
My fault.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well I know, but just what do you you know? Now?
You need to have a chocolate, that's what I said, freezing, yeah,
and just have take a bite and take a drink.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, nothing rolling that yeah choo. Yeah. Still the bourbon cream.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Really it's still the same, that's true. You could dip,
could be a dipper, You could be a dipper.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Hey, Scott actually had a home improvement question for you.
If you don't mind, I gotta get my braining gear here,
so we'd like to get you fired up before your
show starts.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, all right our water heater.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah yeah, he hates water heat.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh really okay, sorry, Well it's suddenly putting a little
water out, uh sporadically through the overflow vent thing. It
doesn't And I noticed that it's the old house and
that we don't have an expansion tank. So would an
expansion tank fix that?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Or just maybe maybe? So what what that is? Of
course of a pressure relief valve that's connected to a
discharge you know pipe, and when that pressure builds, of course,
that discharges some of the water relieves the pressure. Expansion
tank is just you know, when a pressure builds, it's

(04:31):
kind of like an overflow on a radiator on a car. Right,
So it's got a place to go. So it could
be that howls the water here.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
It was twenty three we got it.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
So oh three years, two years. Yeah, I'm surprised they
didn't do it. Probably code be well I put it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I put it in myself in the previous well, I
didn't have an expansion tank either.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know what Gary says when people say that, Well,
there's your answer right there is.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah. There's a couple of things I do Scott. One
is you can always get a find out what your
water pressure is in your house. It's a little screw
on device that goes on an outdoor faucet and they'll
tell you exactly where the pressure is in the house.
If it's copper pie pit should be below eighty psi.

(05:15):
And so if you're running you know, ninety or one
hundred and you got a you know, a hot water
heater with no expansion tank and it's coming out of
the discharge, I would say that's probably it.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
If you told me that water heater was ten years
old and you had an expansion tank, I'd probably tell
you it's probably water logged, or you probably ought to
go ahead and replace it, because water heaters go about
ten twelve years, ten to fifteen years. But on yours,
I think I just checked the pressure and probably install
an expansion tank.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, you know, there's a little problem, Gary, what's that
He needs to have somebody come out and fix that
outdoor faucet too. That that was a second question.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is that right? Well, i'd say do it.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
First of all, you got to take the hose off.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, oh, don't say that. Then you got to mop
up the mess because once you turn the water on
and you know you're gonna have a split pipe and
you know how that goes.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Actually, my son he had a water heater. He was
telling me I didn't even know what happened, and he
had water down at the bottom and that's a little
different than the discharge pipe on the side. And he goes,
you know, we just saw a drop or two. And
they came back and the next morning, guess what the
hot water was in their basement. Yeah, that's not good.

(06:30):
So if it's leaking on the bottom, definitely replaced. If
it's coming out of that it's fifty to fifty at
the age of years, I think you probably got some
high water pressure in that expansion tank can help resolve that.
Very good.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
What are typical warranties on water heaters today?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know it depends on the type you're getting, but
most of him you might get a couple of years.
I mean they're gonna last longer than that, but the
average life of it. I just replaced mine. I think
two years ago was thirteen years old. Get to about
that point, I start having a little bit of a
drip coming out of that uh pressure relief valve, and

(07:06):
the my water pressure hadn't changed it all, and it
had an expansion tank. I knew it was water logged,
and I also knew that water heater was thirteen years old.
So I've replaced it. You replaced it, No, not replaced it,
but thank you?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
All right? Did we get you warmed up? Oh? Yeah,
what are you gonna talk about today?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
We're gonna talk. We're gonna pick up the pieces? Brother,
Oh we are? Oh yeah, okay, what do you think?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think? That's uh, you're gonna think.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think everybody had a big party, everybody took naps.
Now it's time to get picked up the pieces. Some resolutions.
Let's keep going.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Average White Band's gonna be your theme music today, absoltem band.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Gary Sullivan right there. Check out his website Gary Sullivan
online dot com. Thank you sir, having a great weekend.
Thank you Scott Gerlin for being here. Oh, thank you,
thank you, Thank you Danny Gleeson for all you do,
because without Danny and other stuff, what happens. So Dan,
thank you so much for being such a great producer.
Now do yourself a favor. Start thinking about where you're
gonna plant a tree or two or three, where you're
gonna plant those native selections, be pollinator friendly, pamp for

(08:06):
your worms, get your kids and dogs involved gardening, and
by all means, make this the best weekend of your life,
and have a happy new year. See you not gardening questions.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Ron has the answers and one eight hundred and eighty
two three Talk You Are in the Garden with Ron
Wilson

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