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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Around the globe from the fifty five KRC You Center.
The man known as the Devil in the Ozarks has
been captured. Brandt Harden, a former Arkansas police chief, escaped
from prison last month by disguising himself as a law
enforcement officer. He was serving time for murder and rape.
The Iszard County Sheriff's office said Harden was taken into
(00:20):
custody about a mile and a half west of prison grounds.
Washington Governor Bob Ferguson has activated the National Guard to
help search for a man accused of murdering his three daughters.
Ferguson issued the order on Friday to assist in the
man hunt for Travis Decker of Wenatchee. Official say the
bodies of Decker's nine, eight, and five year old daughters
were found near Levenworth on Monday. They were reported missing
(00:41):
after a scheduled visitation with Decker. Official say Decker is
former military with extensive survival knowledge. The man who was
mistakenly deported to Al Salvador and became a flashpoint of
President Trump's immigration policy is back in the United States
to face criminal charges. US Attorney General Pam Bondi said
Kilmara Brego Garcia will be charged with human trafficking. I'm
(01:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
Here is your nine first yardening forecast. Today looks like
about high of around seventy eight chance of showers throughout
the entire day. Tomorrow on Sunday party cloudy, chance of
showers again right around seventy seven to seventy eight degrees.
And on Sunday looks like mostly sunny. I have seventy
nine degrees seven four nine, fifty five hundred here at
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fifty five KRC DE talk station. Welcome back here in
the garden with Ron Wilson again. That total free number
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. And
of course we've been addressing this major uh coming out
of the winter loss this year of the honeybees in
the United States. And I'm talking major, big time hit,
(01:52):
millions of bees loss and the course affecting our honey
and the bee population. I mean just you know, a
lot of money in here and a lot of bees
gone as well. What the heck happened? Well, they've been
doing a lot of research and Barbie Bletcher. Our Queen
Bee has been keeping us updated and we this week
have gotten a new report on some of their findings.
(02:13):
So joining us this morning is our Queen Bee, Barbie
b Letcher. Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Finally we got some news.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Finally got some news. And you know what's funny is
your Your first email to me said I haven't had
a chance to read through the report yet, but give
me time. I still haven't made it through that report.
How do you How do you read that? Oh my gosh.
I kept back. I was like, I just I would
read about three sentences and I would go, what did
that say? I finally, I'll be honest with you. I
(02:43):
finally put it down and said, we'll talk to Barb
on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah. Some of the virus stuff, the materials and methods
was kind of over my head.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You went over your head. Yes, well I don't feel
so bad then. Yeah? That was that was That was.
That was pretty complicated. So so anyway they've been doing
for folks that don't know we're talking about, which I'm
surprised because it has been quite a bit in the news,
A major loss of honey bees coming out of the
winner this year obviously tracked by the major bee keepers,
(03:18):
and it was right about time of shipping bees to
the almond groves and all the bees being moved around
for spring pollination. And these bees are all showing up,
well not they're all dead. And you know, again the
dollar value of the losses over this year is phenomenal
in B production, B products, things like that. But of
(03:42):
course then the big question is what happened. And you know,
we went through this several years ago where the colony
collapse disorder came into effect, which really got things started, right,
I mean as far as really good research and money
put into what's going on with the bees, that really
did kick it off. And that's where we kind of
got involved you more, at that time, trying to figure
(04:02):
out what was going on. So it's been interesting. So anyway,
the report a report has been published, and you are
here to help us kind of sore through and tell
us what are they finding out.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, so they're estimating a six hundred million dollar loss
and that doesn't count lost to the blueberries and the
apples down the road you know, that are not being
pollinated as well as they should be, so that that's
substantial to all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Really, yeah, I mean, I just it's kind of staggering
to think about that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So they they had many, many, many reports from beekeepers
and they looked at both live, dying, and dead colonies
from six of the major beekeepers who had about one
hundred and eighty four thousand collars, which is only a
(05:01):
small percentage of our total number of population of colonies
in the United States, but they all had substantial losses.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
One hundred and eighty four thousand colonies. Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Think that the largest the beekeeper with the largest number
of colonies in the United States. And I always kept
this wrong, but I think it's eighty thousand colonies. One
beekeeper who manages eighty thousand colonies. No way, he has
lots of drones and worker bees to help him.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Holy yeah, so they so, I'm sorry. So they looked
at these bees and they did find several key viruses,
the four well, I guess the four main ones that
stuck out. There's two deformed wing viruses. They call it
(05:57):
A and B, but deform wing virus which is linked
with viromites because the vermites vector that virus just like
a dear tickle vector viruses to us right diseases disease
do us.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So they had two of those.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
They had Israeli acute paralysis virus, which is they call IAPV,
and that was linked with colony collapse, with the disappearing
of the colonies. So they had really high levels of that.
It's like seventy seventy eight percent or seventy two percent
of the colonies and the bees individually that they looked
(06:34):
at had that Israeli acute paralysis virus. Then they had
acute B paralysis virus two, which were really high levels.
So they found like seven other viruses, but those four
were extremely high compared to a normal colony with viruses,
so that kind of peaked your interests. So they started
(06:57):
looking at those viruses and they they found it present
in all the colonies they examined. But the weird thing
is that they found them in the healthy colonies as
well as.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
The dead and dying collies.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So you can't just say, well, these bees had viruses
and these didn't. It wasn't it wasn't that easy. But
they found individual bees that had really high virulent strains
or races of these viruses, to the point that they
were showing symptoms. You know, they kind of stagger their tongue,
(07:31):
they're sticking out, they kind of look like they're drunk
walking around in front of the hive.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So they saw those.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
So they took viruses out of these really sick bees
showing symptoms and they injected them into the pupa that
developing bees and adult bees of healthy bees, and then
they got those symptoms. So what they found is that
there's even though collectively the colonies had these virus is
(08:00):
there are certain bees individuals in each colony that had
these really high levels to the point that they were
staggering and dying. If they took the virus out of
those and gave them to the other bees, they got
that same high level of virus and it killed them.
Even like I think they you know, a small percentage
(08:23):
of a very weak dilution of that virus injected into
what seemed like healthy bees, they would get that really
high varilant strain of virus and they would kill them. So,
you know, bees, when they're sick, they beg for food
from their sisters, and they feed each other anyhow, but
(08:44):
the sick ones are begging food from the others so
the sisters that are really sick are spreading it to
each other, and then you only need one sick mite
or one mite that has this virus to spread it
to all her brothers and sisters and they all get it,
so you don't have to have a whole colony with
(09:06):
high virus. So you only need even one really sick
bee to virtually kill the entire colony within days. Wow,
that's the part that I had to read three times.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I really understand what they were trying to say.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Reading your interpretation, I much appreciated the two pager there
because it made sense to me. After I read your interpretation,
I was reading another one, I was like, I'm lost.
I don't know Barble explained it to us. So I
appreciate you doing it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So can virtually kill sixty six million exposed bees.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Wow, with a dilution, a ten pc dilution, it can
still kill them. So these are really virulent, highly infectious
strains of these viruses.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And so folks understand how they're getting the viruses and
are these are are are these these high strains has
just just come on recently, That's the first question. And
secondly is of course those are vector to those bees
through a MIGHT right through.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
The they're all linked to a subb or a MIGHT.
So and that was the other part of the study
is that you know, commercial beekeepers, so they have they
have to keep their bottom line slightly above you know,
they have to make some kind of profit because it's
their livelihood, right, So they use amtres. They use a
formulation of amitrast which is a common MITA side that
(10:39):
they can kind of afford to treat for their MIGHT.
So because it is it is less expensive and it
has worked in the past, they have been using that
same mitaside over and over again in not checking their
to see if it worked.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And you think, if you have you.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Know, even twenty even two thousand colonies, how do you
check them on a regular basis to see if your
MIGHT product is working. Yeah, so they're using this product
might control product and the bee the might developed a
resistance to it. So the mites weren't even being killed
(11:19):
by this mite aside. So that just added to it
because these mites were just you know, even one one
mite that spreads that virus can kill that entire colony
and all the other colonies.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Because you know, bees.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Are going to flowers and dropping off virus. You know,
they rob from each other, and the mites are dropping
off each the bees.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
As they're going from colony to colony.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
So when they're hungry they don't have enough food. Bees
rob from each other other colonies, so the mites are
on these bees, they drop off in another colony and whamo,
you know all the other colonies are affected as well.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Unbelievable on bee. I mean, it really is to think
this through. So you know, higher strains and that's kind
of unique, I guess, and then you get this that
might have sided. It's all of a sudden not working
and no one's really kind of paying attention. You put
all that together. By the way, Joe strecker vious, I
don't know if you're saying to you when he called you,
(12:18):
but uh, does the bee diarrhea fall into this anywhere?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yes, it is. Actually I'm glad he I'm glad, he asked.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
They have found high levels of a not team in
most of these colonies.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
There you go, Joe, that's a just disease.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, he was curious because he's always curious about that
bee diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, they all had it and we laugh.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
But it's not funny. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh you think how you feel after one night of
Montezuma's revenge.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, and those poor beasts feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So then you get that, and then you get the
mites and you get the viruses. Not a good situation.
So now it's starting to all come together while they
just all kind of hit the fan at the same time.
It sounds like to me and that's why we had
this major white bet. Let's take a quick break talk
with Barbie Bletcher about the major honeybee loss we had
this past winter, going into the spring season, finding out
(13:18):
what's going on. And there you go. So we'll talk
more with Barbie after the break. Here in the garden
with Ron Wilson.
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Ron Wilson's special guests. This morning, the Queen Bee Barbie
(14:19):
Butcher finally got an update on what happened with all
those bees this spring. The huge loss, and it's going
to trickle down for a couple of years. You're going
to see, you know again, you lose that many bees.
It's going to affect a lot of different things, including
what we don't think about, and that's the pollination of
the almonds and the blueberries and all of the produce
(14:39):
out there and the fruits and berries and all that.
It's going to take a couple of years, and you know,
do you ever fully recover from that? I mean, thinking
the bee keepers trying to recover and rebuild their colonies
is crazy, so I guess. So the bottom line is,
we found this out, we see what's going on. Now,
what's the next step.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Well, there's more to come yet, there's still working on
They collected bees wax and bee bread and stuff, to
look at. So there's more to come, but I think
we have all learned some lessons from this. And one
of the key things, which you know, we learned this
in school and we've been taught, but we don't always
(15:21):
follow through, is we need to switch or rotate our
chemical classes. You know, whether we're treating the tomatoes in
our backyard or treating bees. You know, we can't depend
on the same chemical class. We can't keep using amtras
over and over again and not expected to have a
(15:41):
resistance issue. So we need to remember to do that,
and we need to monitor our mic level on a
regular basis, and then we treat and treat if you
have to. And then after you've treated, then you check
your mic levels again to see if you're a product.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Actually worked, if you get the target. So I think
there's some lessons that we need to learn and we
need to run. This is where you come in. We
need a better mic control product. You and Joe Boggs,
see if you can come up with a.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
New mic control product that is inexpensive and effective and
safe and doesn't kill bees and doesn't kill it doesn't
kill bees.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You forgot to throw that in there. Yeah, Well, barb.
You didn't tell us we couldn't kill the bees.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, you know, shoes always work, you know, a strong boot.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Can you see Joe in a basement somewhere chemical lab
trying to come up with something.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Oh oh absolutely with all Oh yeah, yeah that's Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, no doubt about it. So you know so well
this so this is star So you think other things
are going to come up as well as far as
other things are.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Going to find Oh yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, they're
still looking. They're still trying to find out if there's
some other pasticide that they pecked out and brought in
or other things. So more as things are down the road.
But yeah, this part at least we can learn from,
(17:21):
and we need to teach and we need to remember
to exercise ourselves.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And that's for all beekeepers, whether it's a home backyard
beekeeper or your commercial beekeeper, like these folks that travel
around and you know you and talk to me about
this many many years ago about how easy it is
for these viruses to spread, especially when you're in the
business of transporting your bees around to different states, different
areas of the country. They're also mingling with other bees
(17:47):
and how easy it is to spread those viruses. I
take my forty colonies and go somewhere and then are clean,
and somebody else takes their forty colonies and they're not clean.
And next thing, you know, my colleagues have that as well,
And how easy that is and how important it is
for all everybody. You've got to really stay on top
of this thing.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know, they have holding yards out there in California
and they're having several hundred thousand, well not hundred thousands,
of hundreds to thousands of colonies just sitting there waiting
to move into almonds or to move back out to
another state, and they're just sitting there. And then food
and I forgot to bring that up. But you know
(18:26):
they need better nutrition, so they we can't. You know,
we feed our bees, but there's nothing better than wild flowers,
no wild natural sources of nectar and pollen.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So bees that have that are much better able.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
To tolerate and deal with, you know, other other stresses.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So you know, we can all help.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
With that by just not having five acres of mood grass,
but have some flowers, have some flowering trees.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just, uh, yeah, I got a think from I
forget the game name and come small company has done
a lot of research on wildflower pollinator SOD that they're
actually growing SOD now with these wildflowers that they you know,
grow it for a year so it's all rooted in
and then they can cut that into springtime, roll it up,
(19:20):
ship it out, you put it down, keep it watered,
and it's already got all of the pollinator wildflowers yeah,
in the sod. And it's a yeah, I mean that's
a that's phenomenal. So it's it would be easy for
you to you know, tear up a you know, eight
by ten, eight by twe whatever in your yard and
put this in. You know, it's instant and they're already
(19:41):
growing and already rated. You just have to keep it water.
So I think it's pretty cool. I saw a thing
the other day, and I don't know if I said
this to you or not. Uh, there's a global campaign
out there for pollinators called be Wild. Are you familiar
with that one? I mean there's so many out there today.
And they started looking at the emerging threats that could
accelerate pollination losses, and of course still at the top
(20:02):
of the list, like you just said, habitat loss. And
you know there's something that we all can do our part,
like you just said, and changing our yards and gardens.
Our beautiful landscapes can stay just as beautiful as they
are or not or maybe even more beautiful by changing
them into a bed and breakfast for all of our
pollinators out there. But that's still at the top of
(20:25):
the list. You know, pesticide still continues to be a
threat climate change, and I don't think we think about that,
but as the climate's been changing, like you told us,
last fall, the golden rod, the pollen wasn't there because
of the dry warm dry fall pass Obviously invasive species obviously.
Then they were still talking about weather threats, and they
were talking about pollution and you know, air pollution and
(20:49):
artificial light. I mean, there's so many things to just
make this cocktail of issues out there. But the big
thing one of right now that we all can still do,
and that is the be habitat. Make you make your
yard a bed and breakfast. Plant sunflowers. They make everybody smile.
They're great to see and it's great for the bees.
(21:11):
Plant sunflower, says the Queen Bee Barbie Butcher. Thank you
so much. We'll stay in touch with you, all right.
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Around the globe from the fifty five KRC You Center.
The man known as the Devil in the Ozarks has
been captured. Brandt Harden, a former Arkansas police chief, escaped
from prison last month by disguising himself as a law
enforcement officer. He was serving time for murder and rape.
The Iszard County Sheriff's office said Harden was taken into
(00:20):
custody about a mile and a half west of prison grounds.
Washington Governor Bob Ferguson has activated the National Guard to
help search for a man accused of murdering his three daughters.
Ferguson issued the order on Friday to assist in the
man hunt for Travis Decker of Wenatchee. Official say the
bodies of Decker's nine, eight, and five year old daughters
were found near Levenworth on Monday. They were reported missing
(00:41):
after a scheduled visitation with Decker. Official say Decker is
former military with extensive survival knowledge. The man who was
mistakenly deported to Al Salvador and became a flashpoint of
President Trump's immigration policy is back in the United States
to face criminal charges. US Attorney General Pam Bondi said
Kilmara Brego Garcia will be charged with human trafficking. I'm
(01:02):
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Here is your nine first yardening forecast. Today looks like
about high of around seventy eight chance of showers throughout
the entire day. Tomorrow on Sunday party cloudy, chance of
showers again right around seventy seven to seventy eight degrees.
And on Sunday looks like mostly sunny. I have seventy
nine degrees seven four nine, fifty five hundred here at
(01:31):
fifty five KRC DE talk station. Welcome back here in
the garden with Ron Wilson again. That total free number
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. And
of course we've been addressing this major uh coming out
of the winter loss this year of the honeybees in
the United States. And I'm talking major, big time hit,
(01:52):
millions of bees loss and the course affecting our honey
and the bee population. I mean just you know, a
lot of money in here and a lot of bees
gone as well. What the heck happened? Well, they've been
doing a lot of research and Barbie Bletcher. Our Queen
Bee has been keeping us updated and we this week
have gotten a new report on some of their findings.
(02:13):
So joining us this morning is our Queen Bee, Barbie
b Letcher. Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Finally we got some news.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Finally got some news. And you know what's funny is
your Your first email to me said I haven't had
a chance to read through the report yet, but give
me time. I still haven't made it through that report.
How do you How do you read that? Oh my gosh.
I kept back. I was like, I just I would
read about three sentences and I would go, what did
that say? I finally, I'll be honest with you. I
(02:43):
finally put it down and said, we'll talk to Barb
on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah. Some of the virus stuff, the materials and methods
was kind of over my head.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You went over your head. Yes, well I don't feel
so bad then. Yeah? That was that was That was.
That was pretty complicated. So so anyway they've been doing
for folks that don't know we're talking about, which I'm
surprised because it has been quite a bit in the news,
A major loss of honey bees coming out of the
winner this year obviously tracked by the major bee keepers,
(03:18):
and it was right about time of shipping bees to
the almond groves and all the bees being moved around
for spring pollination. And these bees are all showing up,
well not they're all dead. And you know, again the
dollar value of the losses over this year is phenomenal
in B production, B products, things like that. But of
(03:42):
course then the big question is what happened. And you know,
we went through this several years ago where the colony
collapse disorder came into effect, which really got things started, right,
I mean as far as really good research and money
put into what's going on with the bees, that really
did kick it off. And that's where we kind of
got involved you more, at that time, trying to figure
(04:02):
out what was going on. So it's been interesting. So anyway,
the report a report has been published, and you are
here to help us kind of sore through and tell
us what are they finding out.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, so they're estimating a six hundred million dollar loss
and that doesn't count lost to the blueberries and the
apples down the road you know, that are not being
pollinated as well as they should be, so that that's
substantial to all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Really, yeah, I mean, I just it's kind of staggering
to think about that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So they they had many, many, many reports from beekeepers
and they looked at both live, dying, and dead colonies
from six of the major beekeepers who had about one
hundred and eighty four thousand collars, which is only a
(05:01):
small percentage of our total number of population of colonies
in the United States, but they all had substantial losses.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
One hundred and eighty four thousand colonies. Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Think that the largest the beekeeper with the largest number
of colonies in the United States. And I always kept
this wrong, but I think it's eighty thousand colonies. One
beekeeper who manages eighty thousand colonies. No way, he has
lots of drones and worker bees to help him.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Holy yeah, so they so, I'm sorry. So they looked
at these bees and they did find several key viruses,
the four well, I guess the four main ones that
stuck out. There's two deformed wing viruses. They call it
(05:57):
A and B, but deform wing virus which is linked
with viromites because the vermites vector that virus just like
a dear tickle vector viruses to us right diseases disease
do us.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So they had two of those.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
They had Israeli acute paralysis virus, which is they call IAPV,
and that was linked with colony collapse, with the disappearing
of the colonies. So they had really high levels of that.
It's like seventy seventy eight percent or seventy two percent
of the colonies and the bees individually that they looked
(06:34):
at had that Israeli acute paralysis virus. Then they had
acute B paralysis virus two, which were really high levels.
So they found like seven other viruses, but those four
were extremely high compared to a normal colony with viruses,
so that kind of peaked your interests. So they started
(06:57):
looking at those viruses and they they found it present
in all the colonies they examined. But the weird thing
is that they found them in the healthy colonies as
well as.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
The dead and dying collies.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So you can't just say, well, these bees had viruses
and these didn't. It wasn't it wasn't that easy. But
they found individual bees that had really high virulent strains
or races of these viruses, to the point that they
were showing symptoms. You know, they kind of stagger their tongue,
(07:31):
they're sticking out, they kind of look like they're drunk
walking around in front of the hive.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So they saw those.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
So they took viruses out of these really sick bees
showing symptoms and they injected them into the pupa that
developing bees and adult bees of healthy bees, and then
they got those symptoms. So what they found is that
there's even though collectively the colonies had these virus is
(08:00):
there are certain bees individuals in each colony that had
these really high levels to the point that they were
staggering and dying. If they took the virus out of
those and gave them to the other bees, they got
that same high level of virus and it killed them.
Even like I think they you know, a small percentage
(08:23):
of a very weak dilution of that virus injected into
what seemed like healthy bees, they would get that really
high varilant strain of virus and they would kill them. So,
you know, bees, when they're sick, they beg for food
from their sisters, and they feed each other anyhow, but
(08:44):
the sick ones are begging food from the others so
the sisters that are really sick are spreading it to
each other, and then you only need one sick mite
or one mite that has this virus to spread it
to all her brothers and sisters and they all get it,
so you don't have to have a whole colony with
(09:06):
high virus. So you only need even one really sick
bee to virtually kill the entire colony within days. Wow,
that's the part that I had to read three times.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I really understand what they were trying to say.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Reading your interpretation, I much appreciated the two pager there
because it made sense to me. After I read your interpretation,
I was reading another one, I was like, I'm lost.
I don't know Barble explained it to us. So I
appreciate you doing it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So can virtually kill sixty six million exposed bees.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Wow, with a dilution, a ten pc dilution, it can
still kill them. So these are really virulent, highly infectious
strains of these viruses.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And so folks understand how they're getting the viruses and
are these are are are these these high strains has
just just come on recently, That's the first question. And
secondly is of course those are vector to those bees
through a MIGHT right through.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
The they're all linked to a subb or a MIGHT.
So and that was the other part of the study
is that you know, commercial beekeepers, so they have they
have to keep their bottom line slightly above you know,
they have to make some kind of profit because it's
their livelihood, right, So they use amtres. They use a
formulation of amitrast which is a common MITA side that
(10:39):
they can kind of afford to treat for their MIGHT.
So because it is it is less expensive and it
has worked in the past, they have been using that
same mitaside over and over again in not checking their
to see if it worked.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And you think, if you have you.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Know, even twenty even two thousand colonies, how do you
check them on a regular basis to see if your
MIGHT product is working. Yeah, so they're using this product
might control product and the bee the might developed a
resistance to it. So the mites weren't even being killed
(11:19):
by this mite aside. So that just added to it
because these mites were just you know, even one one
mite that spreads that virus can kill that entire colony
and all the other colonies.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Because you know, bees.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Are going to flowers and dropping off virus. You know,
they rob from each other, and the mites are dropping
off each the bees.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
As they're going from colony to colony.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
So when they're hungry they don't have enough food. Bees
rob from each other other colonies, so the mites are
on these bees, they drop off in another colony and whamo,
you know all the other colonies are affected as well.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Unbelievable on bee. I mean, it really is to think
this through. So you know, higher strains and that's kind
of unique, I guess, and then you get this that
might have sided. It's all of a sudden not working
and no one's really kind of paying attention. You put
all that together. By the way, Joe strecker vious, I
don't know if you're saying to you when he called you,
(12:18):
but uh, does the bee diarrhea fall into this anywhere?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yes, it is. Actually I'm glad he I'm glad, he asked.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
They have found high levels of a not team in
most of these colonies.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
There you go, Joe, that's a just disease.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, he was curious because he's always curious about that
bee diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, they all had it and we laugh.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
But it's not funny. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh you think how you feel after one night of
Montezuma's revenge.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, and those poor beasts feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So then you get that, and then you get the
mites and you get the viruses. Not a good situation.
So now it's starting to all come together while they
just all kind of hit the fan at the same time.
It sounds like to me and that's why we had
this major white bet. Let's take a quick break talk
with Barbie Bletcher about the major honeybee loss we had
this past winter, going into the spring season, finding out
(13:18):
what's going on. And there you go. So we'll talk
more with Barbie after the break. Here in the garden
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the talk station. Welcome back here in the Garden with
Ron Wilson's special guests. This morning, the Queen Bee Barbie
(14:19):
Butcher finally got an update on what happened with all
those bees this spring. The huge loss, and it's going
to trickle down for a couple of years. You're going
to see, you know again, you lose that many bees.
It's going to affect a lot of different things, including
what we don't think about, and that's the pollination of
the almonds and the blueberries and all of the produce
(14:39):
out there and the fruits and berries and all that.
It's going to take a couple of years, and you know,
do you ever fully recover from that? I mean, thinking
the bee keepers trying to recover and rebuild their colonies
is crazy, so I guess. So the bottom line is,
we found this out, we see what's going on. Now,
what's the next step.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Well, there's more to come yet, there's still working on
They collected bees wax and bee bread and stuff, to
look at. So there's more to come, but I think
we have all learned some lessons from this. And one
of the key things, which you know, we learned this
in school and we've been taught, but we don't always
(15:21):
follow through, is we need to switch or rotate our
chemical classes. You know, whether we're treating the tomatoes in
our backyard or treating bees. You know, we can't depend
on the same chemical class. We can't keep using amtras
over and over again and not expected to have a
(15:41):
resistance issue. So we need to remember to do that,
and we need to monitor our mic level on a
regular basis, and then we treat and treat if you
have to. And then after you've treated, then you check
your mic levels again to see if you're a product.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Actually worked, if you get the target. So I think
there's some lessons that we need to learn and we
need to run. This is where you come in. We
need a better mic control product. You and Joe Boggs,
see if you can come up with a.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
New mic control product that is inexpensive and effective and
safe and doesn't kill bees and doesn't kill it doesn't
kill bees.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You forgot to throw that in there. Yeah, Well, barb.
You didn't tell us we couldn't kill the bees.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, you know, shoes always work, you know, a strong boot.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Can you see Joe in a basement somewhere chemical lab
trying to come up with something.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Oh oh absolutely with all Oh yeah, yeah that's Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, no doubt about it. So you know so well
this so this is star So you think other things
are going to come up as well as far as
other things are.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Going to find Oh yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, they're
still looking. They're still trying to find out if there's
some other pasticide that they pecked out and brought in
or other things. So more as things are down the road.
But yeah, this part at least we can learn from,
(17:21):
and we need to teach and we need to remember
to exercise ourselves.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And that's for all beekeepers, whether it's a home backyard
beekeeper or your commercial beekeeper, like these folks that travel
around and you know you and talk to me about
this many many years ago about how easy it is
for these viruses to spread, especially when you're in the
business of transporting your bees around to different states, different
areas of the country. They're also mingling with other bees
(17:47):
and how easy it is to spread those viruses. I
take my forty colonies and go somewhere and then are clean,
and somebody else takes their forty colonies and they're not clean.
And next thing, you know, my colleagues have that as well,
And how easy that is and how important it is
for all everybody. You've got to really stay on top
of this thing.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know, they have holding yards out there in California
and they're having several hundred thousand, well not hundred thousands,
of hundreds to thousands of colonies just sitting there waiting
to move into almonds or to move back out to
another state, and they're just sitting there. And then food
and I forgot to bring that up. But you know
(18:26):
they need better nutrition, so they we can't. You know,
we feed our bees, but there's nothing better than wild flowers,
no wild natural sources of nectar and pollen.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So bees that have that are much better able.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
To tolerate and deal with, you know, other other stresses.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So you know, we can all help.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
With that by just not having five acres of mood grass,
but have some flowers, have some flowering trees.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just, uh, yeah, I got a think from I
forget the game name and come small company has done
a lot of research on wildflower pollinator SOD that they're
actually growing SOD now with these wildflowers that they you know,
grow it for a year so it's all rooted in
and then they can cut that into springtime, roll it up,
(19:20):
ship it out, you put it down, keep it watered,
and it's already got all of the pollinator wildflowers yeah,
in the sod. And it's a yeah, I mean that's
a that's phenomenal. So it's it would be easy for
you to you know, tear up a you know, eight
by ten, eight by twe whatever in your yard and
put this in. You know, it's instant and they're already
(19:41):
growing and already rated. You just have to keep it water.
So I think it's pretty cool. I saw a thing
the other day, and I don't know if I said
this to you or not. Uh, there's a global campaign
out there for pollinators called be Wild. Are you familiar
with that one? I mean there's so many out there today.
And they started looking at the emerging threats that could
accelerate pollination losses, and of course still at the top
(20:02):
of the list, like you just said, habitat loss. And
you know there's something that we all can do our part,
like you just said, and changing our yards and gardens.
Our beautiful landscapes can stay just as beautiful as they
are or not or maybe even more beautiful by changing
them into a bed and breakfast for all of our
pollinators out there. But that's still at the top of
(20:25):
the list. You know, pesticide still continues to be a
threat climate change, and I don't think we think about that,
but as the climate's been changing, like you told us,
last fall, the golden rod, the pollen wasn't there because
of the dry warm dry fall pass Obviously invasive species obviously.
Then they were still talking about weather threats, and they
were talking about pollution and you know, air pollution and
(20:49):
artificial light. I mean, there's so many things to just
make this cocktail of issues out there. But the big
thing one of right now that we all can still do,
and that is the be habitat. Make you make your
yard a bed and breakfast. Plant sunflowers. They make everybody smile.
They're great to see and it's great for the bees.
(21:11):
Plant sunflower, says the Queen Bee Barbie Butcher. Thank you
so much. We'll stay in touch with you, all right.
Take care, quick break, we come back. Phone lines are
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