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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, and
yes he is with us again. We are so privileged
I have this young man join us here in the garden.
I'm not going to go through the long introduction because
you know who I'm talking about. He's a renowned horticulturist
and author. He's written a million different books. He's got
a new one I think coming out maybe shortly, and
(00:22):
his Gardening Update, which is rated the best gardening app
out there. All right, there's just been updated, so if
you haven't done it, we'll talk more about that as well.
Armatage is great Garden Plants by the one, the only
ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Alan Apple Armitage.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Manning.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Your fan base just gets bigger and bigger every time
you're on this show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I didn't have something to do with you, Ron. How
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I am great? The question is have you gotten over
to the Jet Lagger? Dos that happen even in it?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Oh? It definitely happens, And the answer is a unqualified
maybe qualified no.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I got up this morning at four o'clock because that's
I just got in I don't know last night two
nights ago. And but anyway, it's the way it is.
I sound kind of croaky, Horsey and all that other stuff,
but life is good and I'm standing here looking at
my garden.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I thought you, I thought you sounded the same.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I feel a whole lot better than I sound
of In case anybody out there wonders. Anyway, it's where
I'm so happy to be home and happy to be
speaking with you.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
By the way, the doc was touring on up and
down the Danube for the last ten days. So how
was the weather.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The weather was actually quite warm and we had lovely
If you're traveling, you don't want rain. If you have
a garden, you do. But so we had a really
wonderful almost two weeks. We spent some time in Munich
at the beginning, spent some time in Budapest at the end,
and had a nice seven day cruise down the Danube.
So it was really lovely.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was really cool, you uh know, probably no apples
were involved and no alcohol involved.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
All I tell you what you're in Germany or Austria
or Slovenia. Apples strudel run. I mean the apple strudel
was well, apple scrutle. That's the way it's supposed to be.
So it was great and of course, you know, casual
boss of wine just to wash down the scrudle. Of course,
we're very fortunate. It was very a very fine, very
(02:27):
fine trip.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Good well, we're glad to have you back. And I
wasn't sure. I hated even Buggy last night because I
was like, did you make it back? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Just well that you know, like anybody who travels ifically overseas,
you know, you're at the mercy of the airlines, and
all we came back KLM the you know, the Dutch airline,
and of course weren't they going on strike, so we
just again dodged the bullet they wanted to strike the
day before we came back, and uh, I got it
all taken care of, I think, So we got back anyway,
(02:56):
All as well, here we.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Are and now you're backing ready to go. So while
you're on a trip like that, I mean, you know, obviously,
mister plants men, do you do you actually take time
to look at the plants in Europe as you're traveling through.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Resol Well, you know, the idea is, as I'm traveling
with my wife, my four wife, Susan and my brother
and his wife from outside Toronto, and they don't want
to get too much of this plant stuff, but we did.
We did go to Munich Botanical Garden that was really
quite lovely. We and you just can't help with the
Europeans do lots of things, well I shouldn't say better
(03:30):
than anybody, but better than certainly we do here with
their park plantings, and they have a lot of pedestrian
areas where you know, shops are but they're always planted
with something. So you know, I take note of that,
and I wish we could do a bit more of
that here. But anyway, yeah, I do, but I didn't.
I didn't say anything. I really didn't know. But what
(03:51):
I did find is this stuff makes people happy. And
I said, well known fact did these shops and everything else.
If you have plants out there look nice, people spend
more money. There's just no doubt. So anyway, so that's
what I did with the plant stuff, and I got
some I got some cool.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Things good and I'm sure we're gonna hear about them.
And of course you can sign up and get doctor
Armitage just newsletter that he sends out. Go to his
website is Alan armitage dot net and get signed up
for that, and then every now and then you'll get
some really cool recommendations on book readings and plants and
places that he's been. And I'm sure we'll learn more
about this the latest trip up and down the Danube
(04:30):
and upcoming. And as I learned on your website, your
your new app as a new your app has a
new update. It's Armedy just great garden plants. And if
you don't have that app, you should because now you
can carry doctor Armitage around in your pocket and anytime
you have a question, he's right there to help you out.
But you know what, I didn't realize how many how
(04:53):
many partners you have in that app that help you
out as well. That's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's good we you know when this thing first starting.
This app has been around for a while now, and
just technology is one of these things that you know,
you never keep up with it, uh so, But also
so is information in the garden world. My goodness, gracious Ron,
If you well know you talk about new plants or
recommended plants, it goes on forever. So I had to
(05:21):
make this app readable otherwise it would be go on forever.
So Yeah, I'm updating that kind of stuff as best
I can. And the partners, the people who grow the
plants and the people who sell the plants. Yeah, they've
been very helpful to So it's it's a it's as
I say, it takes a village.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Even even Maria Zampini.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh my goodness, I love Maria. She's terrific. If you
don't know Maria, it's just as there is nam Beanie.
She's terrific and uh, we have a good time together.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I always call her Zampy. M So next time, next
time you see her, call her Zampy and she'll know
who told you to say that.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, I'll be talking with her very soon. I'll let
her know her know to go ahead, buddy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Talking with doctor Allan Armitage again. His website is Alan
Armitage dot net. We're gonna take a break and we
come back. While you were gone, I took a tour
of your garden, uh and took you down. Yeah, and
I walked through and chased the deer away that we're back.
And then I picked out a few plants and I
think we're kind of standouts, and I want to kind
of walk you through some of these and you can
(06:23):
explain to folks what they are. Are you surprised that
I walked through your garden?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Nothing about you who surprises me anymore? Ron, So just commit. Commit.
If I'm not here, just you keep chasing those deer away.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
By the way, you did get the Rita's apple moonshine recipe,
I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I appreciate that. Yeah, the apple and the moonshine, they
go well together. I have to try that this week.
I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
All right, we're gonna take quick break. We come back
more with doctor Allan Armitage his website Alan Armitage dot Net.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (08:19):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning. The doctor is in the house, Doctor
Alan Apple Armitage. His website is Alan Armitage dot net
and I just got back from the nice trip over
to Europe and it'll be able to share some things
that he's seen over there in a couple weeks with
us as well. Don't forget his app as a gardening app.
It's updated. If you've had it, you need to get
(08:40):
the updated version. It's all of about four ninety nine.
So it's a great bye, trust me. But it's called
armitages Great garden Plants by Alan Armitage and you will
totally enjoy all the information that's on there. So in
a surprise to you, I came down to the Georgia
area and I took a walk through your garden and
chased all the deer away, and I went through and
I kind of took a look, and I said, I'm
(09:02):
gonna pick some standouts from the Armity garden. Uh. And
what's nice about what you do? And this is kind
of a tip for everybody else. You label everything, even
though you're the doctor. You label everything that's in your garden.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Except the ones that the deer, squirrels, chipmunks and anybody
else eat and take away and.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Then chew them up. Yeah, take them away from there,
chew them up.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So I have no idea what I got in here anymore, but.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I thought it was well marked. So I was able
to recognize some of these, and I think most of
them are kind of newer plants, but some of the
standouts I saw as I walked around, and you can
kind of fill the sentence Aptenia. Uh, the golden cascade.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Isn't that cool. That's a plant that nobody knows wrong
and it's well, probably because it's not that easy to
find Optinia. It's it's a great you know for those
people who like to do containers and the whole you know,
fillers and thrillers and spillers thing. This is a great spiller.
It falls out of the container and has little red flowers.
But the one you mentioned has golden foliage. I love it.
(10:08):
I've got it here, I'm looking at it right now.
So a good, good choice, that's one. And I wish
we could get into the hands of more people, and
they have to do it online or a good garden
center will carry it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
We grow that and we do the variegated variety. I
haven't seen the golden one, but I'll have to take
a look at that one after I saw the one
growing there in your container there. I know you're a
big Dahlia fan. And the one I picked out was
a Venti pink burst.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, not cool, So Dahias' that's some of those plants
that people just love, and they love them mostly for
the cut flower value. The big suckers, and I got
some big suckers in here. I'm sure you saw them.
But that is a dwarf form. I call it almost
like a betting dahlia, and the betting dalias have kind
of been disappointing, especially in an area where it gets
(10:55):
hot and no rain and nadda YadA YadA. Dahlias do
really well with cool temperatures. Is one you just mentioned
that VENTI. This is a new one, and it was
quite quite wonderful. In fact, they do and if you
if they struggle during the summer bit, they often come
back like really really well in the fall. So that
(11:15):
one is one that I'm really quite excited about because
it's a dwarf form that seems to work. Most others
I have not had that same success with.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So if they turn into let us a little bit
in the summertime with the heat, and I'll just hang
with them because they'll come back with them and bud
back up with And I did like the blue salvia
right next to it. I don't know what the variety was,
but I love blue salva.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, I tell you what salvy is wrong. He
are here and this is of course now we're in
where are we? Late September again. Some of these perennial
salvius are at their best, but even some of the
annual salvius. Any of the blue salvius, I say, any
of the most of the blue salvias are perennial, and
they look good, but they also flower like crazy in
the fall. And I don't know if you saw the
(11:56):
yellow one called the Forciitia sage, but the ForCity a
sage as an annual. But oh my goodness, run it's
going through the roof right now. And uh and it's
just it's for city because it's yellow, but it's it's
it's a good four or five feet tall here, but
it it's taken over there. It's it's taken over, meaning
visually it's taken over the garden because it's so pretty
(12:16):
right now.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Why was like the Victoria that light blue and an
annual here? But I have had her over winter and
pop back up in the roots again in the springtime.
Kind of a tough plant. But man, the pollinators absolutely
loving that. Oh absolutely, you had great, great selections there.
I know you're you like more of the paniculatas. The
(12:37):
flocks is that are out there. You've got that cople
pink growing the series.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, they've done well. Capole is actually relatively new,
what two years three years maybe at most, and there
I say dwarf meaning knee high, and they just stay
flower for a long period of time. The thing about
all these flocks is they they they tolerate lots of sun,
so if you put them in too much shade, they
still grow, but they don't flower terribly well. So I've
(13:07):
got and on my gardeners. You know, he's got a
lot of shade and sun and they like the regular
old garden. So where I have them in sun, they've
done very very well. I love them. Great plant, native pollinator,
everything you can ask for.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now, you've been talking a lot about this perennial evergreen
for us and evergreen for you obviously groundcover type perennial
Hella boris and the ice n roses. Yeah, that things.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, if they had to put up with us for
any time, Ron they know that we both love the
Lenten roses, and the new Lenten roses compared to the
old Lenton roses are are they don't recede. They don't
go anywhere. They just get bigger and better and uh.
And the nice thing about these new ones is the
flowers are straight up you see them, you don't have
(13:53):
to bend over, and the foldage stays beautiful essentially all season.
And I'm looking at mine right now and they look
very very nice. So ice and roses is just one
group of them. There's a number of great groups of
helibores that I love, both for foliage and for flowers.
So yeah, you can't go wrong. And they're gonna flower
(14:15):
early spring. I don't care where you are, Cincinnati, here,
it happens. They're going to flower early spring as soon
as the temperatures warm up. In fact, they're probably putting
on buds right now, so that's a cool thing about it. Yeah,
they're really great.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, you just look so good because the foliage right
now looks so nice. And I think that's the interesting
You know, you got the early late winter, early spring colors,
but then the rest of the season the foliage is outstanding.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah. And with most hellibores, they can go downhill the
old ones. And I said, you have nothing wrong with
the old ones. They're just there's better stuff out there,
and so if I'm going to buy a hellib or,
I'll rather spend the money or something that's, you know, truly.
Perennial three looks good all season, gives me great flowers,
and I can look at it in September, I can
look out in April and it's still wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Talking with doctor Allen Apple. Armitage's website is Alan Armitage
dot and I'd be sure and check it out. And
you can find all of his great books on there
as well, including that Great Garden app Armitage is Great
Garden Plants. Be sure and download that one Mexican giant hissop.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, who makes the names? What the hell's a hissop?
It's you know, some people call it hissop or agustache,
which is no easier.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
A lot of people don't know the agastash or Astaire
you go.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But anyway, these have been fairly new, uh, and and
I think that they're they're really good. Uh. There's been
some bunch of these Agustache or Heisup or whatever that
has come out for a while. But uh, you know,
you look at some of the new ones and I
really like them, and I you know, they're still flowering
for me right now, they have that great fragrance, not
(15:59):
so much of flower but the foliage.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So the so I got to do is put them
somewhere where you might even brush by them. You say, oh,
I lend them too close to the path. But then
every time you walk by, you get that smell and
it's really good. I really love these things.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And you know you had it. There's a garden lily
growing off to the side there with the petunias in
the front. It look the petunias are great, and that
kind of hides the garden lily foliage. It's a with
you know, no flower. But that's all right. But that's
that's the way you plant things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I happen to like planting things very very densely.
You do already sort of they duke it out, I guess.
But that garden lily is one called Forever Susan, and
it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Of course because it's Susan it's name.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's named for my good wife. But I think you'd
like it anyway. Now it flowers. Well, I've had it
for years and it comes back every years.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I got one like that. I got one more for you.
That's really coming on strong. And we were selling a
lot as a fall annual as well. Great show, and
of course that would be straw flowers.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh my goodness, runs straw flowers you can sell in
a spring and they look great, but you know, sometimes
they get their native many of these are natives to Australia,
and uh you know they you know, they come and
they go. They are definitely an annual. But I would
think if you put that out in the like right now,
they're gonna look fabulous until you get frost. And I
(17:22):
love the straw flowers are called out of course, and
so you would bring people to the garden and they
get bored and they're yawning. Just tell them to touch
the flowers and they almost jump back in surprise because
they truly feel like straw and uh so they're but
they're beautiful plant. Take me the yellow one. I like
the yellow one the best, but they're all they're all lovely.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Is that a petite knockout rose by the yellow one?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, it's it's it's a mini rows. I had that
for years, okay, and it really is a good rose.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
How about this particular plant that really stuck out the
Blackstone Grille.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I have to get back at that. Now that
I'm home, I'm going to be cooking up a storm.
So we got you know, it's it's that ton of
year right in Ohio where football is king at times,
and certainly down here as well as football season. Yep,
So big games this weekends. Get the grill out and
with some smash burgers on there while I enjoy the garden,
enjoy the game.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Don't forget the bacon.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh yeah, can't go wrong with bacon. No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Doctor Allen Apple armedies with us this morning. Allan armonist
Net is the website. So last time we talked, you
said something about just kind of threw it out there
that there may be another book in the works from
doctor Armitage.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh boy, yeah, well there there there will be, and
I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Ron.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I sort of asked you to take a look at
the idea. And it's whenever I give talks and you
do too, or whether people are walking the garden with
you or whatever, they always ask the same questions and
they're always confused. The one thing about gardeners passion and confusion,
it just goes goes together. So I wrote this new
book called The Common Sense Gardeners, and it is gardening
(19:07):
with common Sense, and it's less than one hundred pages long.
And as they say, one of the least common things
is common sense. So hopefully I've put it down and
it's going to come out. It's going to be pre sale,
will be before Christmas, but the book itself probably will
come out until January or February. But I think people
are going to love it. I think they really are
easy to read, and yeah, hope, good good ideas and
(19:31):
good things to do. Common sense.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
All your books are easy to read and they're always enjoyable.
So I'm looking forward to it. And again, if you
want to learn more about it, go to his website.
Sign up for his newsletter. It's Alan Armitage dot net.
That's Alan Armitage dot net. Doctor triple A. Gets some
rest and we'll talk to you in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
All right, Ron, thank you so much everybody, and enjoy
the day.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
All right, take care doctor Allan Armitage again Alan Armitage
dot net. Will take a quick break to me come back.
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Speaker 3 (20:36):
Not gardening questions, Ron has the answers at one eight
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Ron Wilson.
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, and
yes he is with us again. We are so privileged
I have this young man join us here in the garden.
I'm not going to go through the long introduction because
you know who I'm talking about. He's a renowned horticulturist
and author. He's written a million different books. He's got
a new one I think coming out maybe shortly, and
(00:22):
his Gardening Update, which is rated the best gardening app
out there. All right, there's just been updated, so if
you haven't done it, we'll talk more about that as well.
Armatage is great Garden Plants by the one, the only
ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Alan Apple Armitage.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Manning.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Your fan base just gets bigger and bigger every time
you're on this show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I didn't have something to do with you, Ron. How
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I am great? The question is have you gotten over
to the Jet Lagger? Dos that happen even in it?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Oh? It definitely happens, And the answer is a unqualified
maybe qualified no.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I got up this morning at four o'clock because that's
I just got in I don't know last night two
nights ago. And but anyway, it's the way it is.
I sound kind of croaky, Horsey and all that other stuff,
but life is good and I'm standing here looking at
my garden.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I thought you, I thought you sounded the same.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I feel a whole lot better than I sound
of In case anybody out there wonders. Anyway, it's where
I'm so happy to be home and happy to be
speaking with you.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
By the way, the doc was touring on up and
down the Danube for the last ten days. So how
was the weather.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The weather was actually quite warm and we had lovely
If you're traveling, you don't want rain. If you have
a garden, you do. But so we had a really
wonderful almost two weeks. We spent some time in Munich
at the beginning, spent some time in Budapest at the end,
and had a nice seven day cruise down the Danube.
So it was really lovely.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was really cool, you uh know, probably no apples
were involved and no alcohol involved.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
All I tell you what you're in Germany or Austria
or Slovenia. Apples strudel run. I mean the apple strudel
was well, apple scrutle. That's the way it's supposed to be.
So it was great and of course, you know, casual
boss of wine just to wash down the scrudle. Of course,
we're very fortunate. It was very a very fine, very
(02:27):
fine trip.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Good well, we're glad to have you back. And I
wasn't sure. I hated even Buggy last night because I
was like, did you make it back? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Just well that you know, like anybody who travels ifically overseas,
you know, you're at the mercy of the airlines, and
all we came back KLM the you know, the Dutch airline,
and of course weren't they going on strike, so we
just again dodged the bullet they wanted to strike the
day before we came back, and uh, I got it
all taken care of, I think, So we got back anyway,
(02:56):
All as well, here we.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Are and now you're backing ready to go. So while
you're on a trip like that, I mean, you know, obviously,
mister plants men, do you do you actually take time
to look at the plants in Europe as you're traveling through.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Resol Well, you know, the idea is, as I'm traveling
with my wife, my four wife, Susan and my brother
and his wife from outside Toronto, and they don't want
to get too much of this plant stuff, but we did.
We did go to Munich Botanical Garden that was really
quite lovely. We and you just can't help with the
Europeans do lots of things, well I shouldn't say better
(03:30):
than anybody, but better than certainly we do here with
their park plantings, and they have a lot of pedestrian
areas where you know, shops are but they're always planted
with something. So you know, I take note of that,
and I wish we could do a bit more of
that here. But anyway, yeah, I do, but I didn't.
I didn't say anything. I really didn't know. But what
(03:51):
I did find is this stuff makes people happy. And
I said, well known fact did these shops and everything else.
If you have plants out there look nice, people spend
more money. There's just no doubt. So anyway, so that's
what I did with the plant stuff, and I got
some I got some cool.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Things good and I'm sure we're gonna hear about them.
And of course you can sign up and get doctor
Armitage just newsletter that he sends out. Go to his
website is Alan armitage dot net and get signed up
for that, and then every now and then you'll get
some really cool recommendations on book readings and plants and
places that he's been. And I'm sure we'll learn more
about this the latest trip up and down the Danube
(04:30):
and upcoming. And as I learned on your website, your
your new app as a new your app has a
new update. It's Armedy just great garden plants. And if
you don't have that app, you should because now you
can carry doctor Armitage around in your pocket and anytime
you have a question, he's right there to help you out.
But you know what, I didn't realize how many how
(04:53):
many partners you have in that app that help you
out as well. That's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's good we you know when this thing first starting.
This app has been around for a while now, and
just technology is one of these things that you know,
you never keep up with it, uh so, But also
so is information in the garden world. My goodness, gracious Ron,
If you well know you talk about new plants or
recommended plants, it goes on forever. So I had to
(05:21):
make this app readable otherwise it would be go on forever.
So Yeah, I'm updating that kind of stuff as best
I can. And the partners, the people who grow the
plants and the people who sell the plants. Yeah, they've
been very helpful to So it's it's a it's as
I say, it takes a village.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Even even Maria Zampini.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh my goodness, I love Maria. She's terrific. If you
don't know Maria, it's just as there is nam Beanie.
She's terrific and uh, we have a good time together.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I always call her Zampy. M So next time, next
time you see her, call her Zampy and she'll know
who told you to say that.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, I'll be talking with her very soon. I'll let
her know her know to go ahead, buddy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Talking with doctor Allan Armitage again. His website is Alan
Armitage dot net. We're gonna take a break and we
come back. While you were gone, I took a tour
of your garden, uh and took you down. Yeah, and
I walked through and chased the deer away that we're back.
And then I picked out a few plants and I
think we're kind of standouts, and I want to kind
of walk you through some of these and you can
(06:23):
explain to folks what they are. Are you surprised that
I walked through your garden?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Nothing about you who surprises me anymore? Ron, So just commit. Commit.
If I'm not here, just you keep chasing those deer away.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
By the way, you did get the Rita's apple moonshine recipe,
I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I appreciate that. Yeah, the apple and the moonshine, they
go well together. I have to try that this week.
I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
All right, we're gonna take quick break. We come back
more with doctor Allan Armitage his website Alan Armitage dot Net.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (08:19):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning. The doctor is in the house, Doctor
Alan Apple Armitage. His website is Alan Armitage dot net
and I just got back from the nice trip over
to Europe and it'll be able to share some things
that he's seen over there in a couple weeks with
us as well. Don't forget his app as a gardening app.
It's updated. If you've had it, you need to get
(08:40):
the updated version. It's all of about four ninety nine.
So it's a great bye, trust me. But it's called
armitages Great garden Plants by Alan Armitage and you will
totally enjoy all the information that's on there. So in
a surprise to you, I came down to the Georgia
area and I took a walk through your garden and
chased all the deer away, and I went through and
I kind of took a look, and I said, I'm
(09:02):
gonna pick some standouts from the Armity garden. Uh. And
what's nice about what you do? And this is kind
of a tip for everybody else. You label everything, even
though you're the doctor. You label everything that's in your garden.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Except the ones that the deer, squirrels, chipmunks and anybody
else eat and take away and.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Then chew them up. Yeah, take them away from there,
chew them up.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So I have no idea what I got in here anymore, but.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I thought it was well marked. So I was able
to recognize some of these, and I think most of
them are kind of newer plants, but some of the
standouts I saw as I walked around, and you can
kind of fill the sentence Aptenia. Uh, the golden cascade.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Isn't that cool. That's a plant that nobody knows wrong
and it's well, probably because it's not that easy to
find Optinia. It's it's a great you know for those
people who like to do containers and the whole you know,
fillers and thrillers and spillers thing. This is a great spiller.
It falls out of the container and has little red flowers.
But the one you mentioned has golden foliage. I love it.
(10:08):
I've got it here, I'm looking at it right now.
So a good, good choice, that's one. And I wish
we could get into the hands of more people, and
they have to do it online or a good garden
center will carry it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
We grow that and we do the variegated variety. I
haven't seen the golden one, but I'll have to take
a look at that one after I saw the one
growing there in your container there. I know you're a
big Dahlia fan. And the one I picked out was
a Venti pink burst.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, not cool, So Dahias' that's some of those plants
that people just love, and they love them mostly for
the cut flower value. The big suckers, and I got
some big suckers in here. I'm sure you saw them.
But that is a dwarf form. I call it almost
like a betting dahlia, and the betting dalias have kind
of been disappointing, especially in an area where it gets
(10:55):
hot and no rain and nadda YadA YadA. Dahlias do
really well with cool temperatures. Is one you just mentioned
that VENTI. This is a new one, and it was
quite quite wonderful. In fact, they do and if you
if they struggle during the summer bit, they often come
back like really really well in the fall. So that
(11:15):
one is one that I'm really quite excited about because
it's a dwarf form that seems to work. Most others
I have not had that same success with.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So if they turn into let us a little bit
in the summertime with the heat, and I'll just hang
with them because they'll come back with them and bud
back up with And I did like the blue salvia
right next to it. I don't know what the variety was,
but I love blue salva.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, I tell you what salvy is wrong. He
are here and this is of course now we're in
where are we? Late September again. Some of these perennial
salvius are at their best, but even some of the
annual salvius. Any of the blue salvius, I say, any
of the most of the blue salvias are perennial, and
they look good, but they also flower like crazy in
the fall. And I don't know if you saw the
(11:56):
yellow one called the Forciitia sage, but the ForCity a
sage as an annual. But oh my goodness, run it's
going through the roof right now. And uh and it's
just it's for city because it's yellow, but it's it's
it's a good four or five feet tall here, but
it it's taken over there. It's it's taken over, meaning
visually it's taken over the garden because it's so pretty
(12:16):
right now.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Why was like the Victoria that light blue and an
annual here? But I have had her over winter and
pop back up in the roots again in the springtime.
Kind of a tough plant. But man, the pollinators absolutely
loving that. Oh absolutely, you had great, great selections there.
I know you're you like more of the paniculatas. The
(12:37):
flocks is that are out there. You've got that cople
pink growing the series.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, they've done well. Capole is actually relatively new,
what two years three years maybe at most, and there
I say dwarf meaning knee high, and they just stay
flower for a long period of time. The thing about
all these flocks is they they they tolerate lots of sun,
so if you put them in too much shade, they
still grow, but they don't flower terribly well. So I've
(13:07):
got and on my gardeners. You know, he's got a
lot of shade and sun and they like the regular
old garden. So where I have them in sun, they've
done very very well. I love them. Great plant, native pollinator,
everything you can ask for.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now, you've been talking a lot about this perennial evergreen
for us and evergreen for you obviously groundcover type perennial
Hella boris and the ice n roses. Yeah, that things.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, if they had to put up with us for
any time, Ron they know that we both love the
Lenten roses, and the new Lenten roses compared to the
old Lenton roses are are they don't recede. They don't
go anywhere. They just get bigger and better and uh.
And the nice thing about these new ones is the
flowers are straight up you see them, you don't have
(13:53):
to bend over, and the foldage stays beautiful essentially all season.
And I'm looking at mine right now and they look
very very nice. So ice and roses is just one
group of them. There's a number of great groups of
helibores that I love, both for foliage and for flowers.
So yeah, you can't go wrong. And they're gonna flower
(14:15):
early spring. I don't care where you are, Cincinnati, here,
it happens. They're going to flower early spring as soon
as the temperatures warm up. In fact, they're probably putting
on buds right now, so that's a cool thing about it. Yeah,
they're really great.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, you just look so good because the foliage right
now looks so nice. And I think that's the interesting
You know, you got the early late winter, early spring colors,
but then the rest of the season the foliage is outstanding.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah. And with most hellibores, they can go downhill the
old ones. And I said, you have nothing wrong with
the old ones. They're just there's better stuff out there,
and so if I'm going to buy a hellib or,
I'll rather spend the money or something that's, you know, truly.
Perennial three looks good all season, gives me great flowers,
and I can look at it in September, I can
look out in April and it's still wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Talking with doctor Allen Apple. Armitage's website is Alan Armitage
dot and I'd be sure and check it out. And
you can find all of his great books on there
as well, including that Great Garden app Armitage is Great
Garden Plants. Be sure and download that one Mexican giant hissop.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, who makes the names? What the hell's a hissop?
It's you know, some people call it hissop or agustache,
which is no easier.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
A lot of people don't know the agastash or Astaire
you go.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But anyway, these have been fairly new, uh, and and
I think that they're they're really good. Uh. There's been
some bunch of these Agustache or Heisup or whatever that
has come out for a while. But uh, you know,
you look at some of the new ones and I
really like them, and I you know, they're still flowering
for me right now, they have that great fragrance, not
(15:59):
so much of flower but the foliage.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So the so I got to do is put them
somewhere where you might even brush by them. You say, oh,
I lend them too close to the path. But then
every time you walk by, you get that smell and
it's really good. I really love these things.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And you know you had it. There's a garden lily
growing off to the side there with the petunias in
the front. It look the petunias are great, and that
kind of hides the garden lily foliage. It's a with
you know, no flower. But that's all right. But that's
that's the way you plant things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I happen to like planting things very very densely.
You do already sort of they duke it out, I guess.
But that garden lily is one called Forever Susan, and
it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Of course because it's Susan it's name.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's named for my good wife. But I think you'd
like it anyway. Now it flowers. Well, I've had it
for years and it comes back every years.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I got one like that. I got one more for you.
That's really coming on strong. And we were selling a
lot as a fall annual as well. Great show, and
of course that would be straw flowers.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh my goodness, runs straw flowers you can sell in
a spring and they look great, but you know, sometimes
they get their native many of these are natives to Australia,
and uh you know they you know, they come and
they go. They are definitely an annual. But I would
think if you put that out in the like right now,
they're gonna look fabulous until you get frost. And I
(17:22):
love the straw flowers are called out of course, and
so you would bring people to the garden and they
get bored and they're yawning. Just tell them to touch
the flowers and they almost jump back in surprise because
they truly feel like straw and uh so they're but
they're beautiful plant. Take me the yellow one. I like
the yellow one the best, but they're all they're all lovely.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Is that a petite knockout rose by the yellow one?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, it's it's it's a mini rows. I had that
for years, okay, and it really is a good rose.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
How about this particular plant that really stuck out the
Blackstone Grille.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I have to get back at that. Now that
I'm home, I'm going to be cooking up a storm.
So we got you know, it's it's that ton of
year right in Ohio where football is king at times,
and certainly down here as well as football season. Yep,
So big games this weekends. Get the grill out and
with some smash burgers on there while I enjoy the garden,
enjoy the game.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Don't forget the bacon.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh yeah, can't go wrong with bacon. No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Doctor Allen Apple armedies with us this morning. Allan armonist
Net is the website. So last time we talked, you
said something about just kind of threw it out there
that there may be another book in the works from
doctor Armitage.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh boy, yeah, well there there there will be, and
I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Ron.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I sort of asked you to take a look at
the idea. And it's whenever I give talks and you
do too, or whether people are walking the garden with
you or whatever, they always ask the same questions and
they're always confused. The one thing about gardeners passion and confusion,
it just goes goes together. So I wrote this new
book called The Common Sense Gardeners, and it is gardening
(19:07):
with common Sense, and it's less than one hundred pages long.
And as they say, one of the least common things
is common sense. So hopefully I've put it down and
it's going to come out. It's going to be pre sale,
will be before Christmas, but the book itself probably will
come out until January or February. But I think people
are going to love it. I think they really are
easy to read, and yeah, hope, good good ideas and
(19:31):
good things to do. Common sense.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
All your books are easy to read and they're always enjoyable.
So I'm looking forward to it. And again, if you
want to learn more about it, go to his website.
Sign up for his newsletter. It's Alan Armitage dot net.
That's Alan Armitage dot net. Doctor triple A. Gets some
rest and we'll talk to you in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
All right, Ron, thank you so much everybody, and enjoy
the day.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
All right, take care doctor Allan Armitage again Alan Armitage
dot net. Will take a quick break to me come back.
Phone lines are going to be open for you. Eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five. Don't forget
our website, it's Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page.
In the Garden with Ron Wilson, got lots of tips
to share with you in the course coming up in
our next hour, Gary Sullivan with some home improvement and
of course at the bottom of the hour the one
(20:14):
the Only Buggy Joe Buggs. And it's all happening here
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