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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yard nang on as we work our way through the
month of October. Let's get started. What do you say?
Cup of Joe Joe Strecker, Executive producer. Find out what's
going on our website, Ron Wilson Online dot com Facebook page.
In the Garden with Ron Wilson. Good morning, kind sir.

(00:57):
Someone's extra perky today, I am. Why are you act perky?
I'm always that way because I'm here with you. What's
the real reason, Danny and I'm just having aough good time.
It's always so much fun to be here on Saturday morning.
I figure I think it'd be perky because of the weather.
Is it's cool. That's a major part of why I'm
so perky today. Cool down, cooler temperatures, big rainfall. Earlier

(01:19):
in the week, things actually got watered. It was that
was an all day. Now that's an all day, and
that one counts. I Mean, we talk about them all
being bonuses, but if they're all theres different story. I got,
I got some rain in my house. Finally, I think
everybody in the whole area pretty much did Yes, yeah,
so awesome as Ron Roths isn't here to look at
the meter to find out, well, that's his own. He

(01:41):
doesn't have anybody to any backup meter readers, no backup
meter readers.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
When he's out of town, I would think he did
Texas Australia. I saw him on the in the chat room.
He was. He was in the chat room too, that's
set up and it was back in his room. It
was like eight whatever, eight o'clock and in the evening
and he was there listening to the show and cool
Facebook participating. Yes, so there you go. That's great. I
think this week it was all actual classes and tours

(02:07):
and stuff. So I don't know. Yeah, good time. And
we are in the Burmot So it's getting to that
time and you can't walk in the grass with your
no shoes on, no shoes. I have to be shooed. Yep,
you have to be Shoot are you going to get
a cold? Are you going to get a cold? So,
but it's been great. I the cool weather. Yeah, I
mean just I love it. Get up in the morning.
That is it a frost or is it a do

(02:30):
I don't know. Well, it's always the question until you
turn on your winch wipe it frost. That's true, very true.
And speaking of of do do, remember you used to
drink mountain dew. I still have one on occasionally, depending
on if I need a perk up in the morning.
I don't drink mountain do much, but I do. I

(02:52):
do drink depends usually with some things. Usually I do tea.
But you know, if I need a real perk up
in the morning, I have to get a do. But
speaking of do do, what guests do you have on today?
Do we have on? Do we have on today? Our guest?
What he's going to talk about day rhymes with do

(03:15):
do earthworm poop? What? Yeah, we're going to talk about
earthworm poop? Now for the Daniel, are we in safe harbor?
Can we talk about this? For the higher class gardeners
out there, it's earthworm castings. Ah, and you'll see it
labeled as earthworm castings. I thought it was called earthworm

(03:36):
tea or is that something different. That's the tea that
they can make out of the earthworm castings. Oh, and
that's if you're erma composting. When you have all those
units in your house that kind of drips in the
bottom of the pan and you collect that out and
that's your that's your tea. These are the earthworm castings,
or commonly known to me as earthworm poop. But this
is a company that's the largest company in the United States,

(03:58):
maybe in the world that manufactured earth does I guess
you'd say that man manufacturers earthworm castings. And it's all
you know, It's like you see people are like, well,
why are you gonna well think about it. Think about
how many worms it takes to manufacture all of the
earthworm castings that they's got to be millions. Yeah, So
we're gonna find out. I mean they have it's a

(04:19):
really cool place. I haven't been there. I've seen pictures
of it, but it's huge. And so we're gonna find
out the process of of the of collecting earthworm poop.
How do you do that? What kind of worms do
you use? How many worms does it take to make
a pound of it? Sounds like the beginning of a joke.
How many worms does it take? How many worms does
it take to screw the light bulb or or a

(04:41):
TOTSI roll pop commercial? I bet it's more than three,
then the and the out Finally, bites into it. Anyway,
We're gonna talk to Jeff Teepele and he's from Worm
Organics and yeah, and obviously they sell earth Do they
sell the worms later? I think they do. What we're
gonna find out, so I guess kind of it's gonna
be a fund one. So I'm looking forward to learn

(05:01):
learn more about those earthworms cool and the poop, the
castings and the benefits. And after the show, you're heading
up north. Yeah, I'm going to as my annual Pumpkin
way Off in Columbus, Ohio at Oakland Nursery and Doubled Ohio.
That's tomorrow and I think they come around noon. We

(05:22):
start the way off about one o'clock. Last year we
had the winner there last year was only thirty pounds
lighter than the world record. I thought they had it
and it was thirty pounds lighter. So that shows you
how big and how important this particular way off is.
So if you happen to be in the Columbus area
on Sunday, stop in at Oakland Nursy and look for

(05:44):
the big crowd of people. And it's a big crowd.
A lot of folks come to this one, so it's
it's cool. I mean there's because you're there. No, because
autographs kissing babies and the mommies hugging mommies. No, but seriously,
the big but it's not me. It's the big pumpkins
and they're huge. Cool and we have there's a couple
of kids. What's really cool is as a brother and

(06:04):
a sister that's been doing this now for about six years.
And they started when they were like five, four and five,
five and six with their dad and now they're like whatever,
ten and eleven, ten and twelve, and so now they're pumpkins.
Back then were like one hundred and ten pounds. Last
year they were both pushing the thousand pounds pumpkins.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
So they have a little competition in the backyard, they said.
They actually help each other out, but it's their own
individual pumpkins and they get bigger every year. So it's
always fun to see them come back and keep doing
it as well. But it's great time. And by the way,
in case you're curious, the world record was broken on Wednesday.
Ooh and Eland. It was in the Hampshire and yeah,

(06:46):
good old, good old, jolly old Hampshire. Yeah, so we'll
talk about a little bit later, but they've actually someone
has just broken the world records. What's the world record
twenty seven fifty nine. Oh, they got that two thou
seven and fifty pounds. Could you believe that we can't
have a we can't have a brit Win that well,
the well they they had it before that. And then

(07:06):
somebody from the United States out of Minnesota, I believe
has the record right now at the twenty seven hundred pounds.
And then they just did this. Twin brothers who've been
raising pumpkins for fifty years, these giant pumpkins, and this
was their last year. They were retiring, so this was
the last pumpkin that they were going to grow, giant
pumpkin and come to find out right now it's the

(07:28):
world record holder, and so I've given it all away.
In the circucomforts around this, it also is a world
record twenty one feet. Wow, twenty one feet in circumference
pumpkin got back. Yeah, wow, it's huge. I saw a
picture of it yesterday. It's huge. It's kind of like
that's a big baby. So what did you see the

(07:48):
story in Indiana the guy that grew the thirty five
foot sun fliflower had pretty on a tower. That's pretty cool. Yeah.
And he had a brace too, didn't he. Yeah, the
way you have to there so they can't hold themselves up. Yeah. Yeah.
He was an immigrant from Ukraine, right right. Yeah. The
store that's country Flower all day. Yeah, so he just

(08:09):
wanted to show support for his country. Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Yeah cool Fort Wayne, Indiana. Very cool. So the website
is by the way, the tomato record was broken also
this week. It was eighteen pounds. Eighteen pounds cut that
baby open, clear and sin. But it's eighteen pounds cut

(08:30):
that baby open. You can make at least three gallons
a ketch up with that. Don't know how you even
try to slice it sit on top of a whole pizza. Yeah,
that would be pretty one little big slice on the top.
That would be pretty cool. Ooh skylinew Chili did pizza
schooling right now? Or you can or yet you have
the dough and you have the one tomato, and then

(08:50):
maybe you can get the Guinness record for the biggest
mozzarella and you just have one big sort of ranch
cheese for the sauce, tomato on top, muscle a little
basil and Mozarell on top like that. See. See we'll
make that, Rita. That's your next recipe for doing just

(09:11):
with regular tomatoes. There you go. That sounds very good, Joseph.
See I'm always well played. See the website again, Ron
Wilson online dot com. And uh, this week we don't
have too many updates because of the season's kind of
slow down. A little bart a wine down. But Rita's

(09:34):
recipe is not super large tomato pizza. No, it is
actually from a listener. Uh it's say apple crumb cake. Yes,
from your side of town, from the west side, West said,
So check out a listener supplied recipe for apple. It's

(09:54):
a short, short list too of ingredients, pretty easy. And
by the way, I'll just tell them ahead of time.
She's going to be with us on the twenty fifth.
Oh okay, the week before Halloween, getting ready for her
big day with us. A little update of what she's
got planned for Halloween. Get ready for a big day, yep.
And the plant of the week is maple trees. Yeah,

(10:18):
you know, it falls a great time for planting. And
if a lot of folks come and say, and you know,
i'd like I want a shade tree, but I can't
wait forever. Yeah, what would you suggest that's sturdy? Because
you have to be careful if it's a fast grower.
Sometimes they can be weak wooded. So what's a faster
growing shade tree that's still strong and well shaped and
I could count on it in good fall color. And

(10:39):
there's so many great new hybrid maples that are out there.
Freeman and I have is be one of the series
that are available for us. We now we've probably gone
into fifteen years of these Freemans. You're showing that to
be outstanding. It's a combination of silvers and reds. All
the characteristics of the reds as far as the shape
and the colors, a little faster growing like the silver,
very tough trees. A lot to choose from selection wise,

(11:02):
different growing habits, but I put a couple on therefore
you take a look at but you know that's a
nice tree for a larger shade tree, faster growing for
your lawn or street tree either way. And one I
put in there is Armstrong, which is actually a rumor,
but it's a new upright variety. Faster growing, great for
street tree planting because it's a little more upright. Did

(11:24):
you get a couple of emails from me this week? Did?
I did?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
You?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I did? Where were you in those pictures? What are
you talking about? You need to be in the background
of those you. Oh, no, you do not. It's not
about me. It's not about me. Yeah, but you're you should.
That's why I said you guys need I need you
guys in the background too. It's a team team effort here. Wow.

(11:48):
But yes I did. I had a little fun. I
had a holiday. I had a little fun of thing.
Well you usually I have Easter, Bunny. Usually I have
a ton of work going on and for and for
some reason, Tuesday my workload was light. So I'm like,
I'm gonna make some graphics for Ron Wilson. So he

(12:08):
took my originally in the garden picture. Yeah, and then
have me and I got you ready for the holiday.
You're ready for the holidays. So you're you're gonna have
to wait till the holidays. Look out the new Ron
Wilson pictures. There's one up there now. You have to
go to the website and check it out. But see
if you I had like you and Dan in the background,
like so at Easter you have bunny, you know ears

(12:29):
on m or maybe at Valentine's Day, you'd be dressed
like cupids. I won't be dressed like Okay, well Dan
said he wouldn't either, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
maybe be all three of us in there. But my
favorite one was the was the Thanksgiving Thanksgiving one, Yes,

(12:52):
made me hungry. Okay, well what about Oh have you
seen what Fireman's Firehouse Subs has that turkey? They have
a turkey. We tried it last week. It was pretty good.
The gravy's good. No, see, I don't like that kind
of stuffing though, what stovetops the bread stuffing. Oh it's
stove topped up and stuffing. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't bad.

(13:14):
I have to try it. It wasn't bad. And they
give you a side thing of gravy. You dip it
and it's got cranberry. Asked for extra cranberry sauce. Yeah.
I thought it was pretty good, pretty tasty. Try it
so cool. There's some other pictures and there there's a
couple of pictures on the those were pretty funny. There's
there's a one on the website and there's one on

(13:35):
the Facebook page today. So if you're going to go
just to check out, just to look at the new
Ron Wilson pictures. So pretty funny cool, all right, it's
not for me to go home, that's it. Yep. Are
you sure all right? Joe Streker, executive producer. Oh, by
the way, I got pictures of doctor Z's a garden
on eighty three this week. Oh you did. Yeah, they're

(13:55):
getting ready to clean it out. He had tubs of
little cherry tomatoes and heirloom tomatoes. Head they planted zennias
and marigolds and all kinds of flowering things. Very nice job,
doctor and missus or soon to be to be doctor
doctor doctor missus Z. It's doctor Z and missus doctor Z.
We have to come up with and besides sweetheart, yeah

(14:19):
he calls her sweetheart. But yeah, he did a very
nice job. All right, So thanks for sending the pictures,
all right, Joe Strucker, executive producer. If you like our
website at Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In
the Guard with Ron Wilson, Joe Strucker had everything to
do with it. You know that something there you don't like,
don't say, say, Joe, I'm not so sure about that. Well,
don't tell Joe, Tell doctor Z. Tell doctor Z in Washington,

(14:42):
d C. GARDENADI three. Yeah, right, who's in a sidecar Bowser?
And who is now on that back seat with the
rock on the left hand? Sweetheart, the sweetheart and soon
to be missus doctor Z. There we go, There we
go eight hundred eight two three eight two five five

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Speaker 1 (17:43):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred A two three eight
two five five talking about yardening as we cruise our
way through the month of October. And by the way,
you know we talk about doctor z uh Joe and
I do every segment kind of kid him at the
very end. And for those of you that haven't listened
to our show over all these years, doctor z was

(18:06):
one of our producers for I don't know Danny, why
was he a producer? About three years or so he was.
He was one with the button. He was doing it
as I started back here about twenty eighteen yeah, so
about three years. Yeah, and uh, producer of the Gardening
Show and of the Home Improvement Show, and there was

(18:26):
new doing it and learning and also we had a
lot of fun with him and kidded him a lot,
and he wound up going to Washington, d c. And
producing there and these and then I took over for him,
and then Danny moved in and we got Danny, and
of course danny'd been around for a while. We knew Danny.
Danny you've even produced I think before that, Yeah, from

(18:46):
my previous stint here from two thousand to two thousand
and eight. Yeah, so we always that's that's who doctors
and I nicknamed him doctor Z. Zach Jones was his name.
It still is his name. And he moved and we've
always stayed in touch and we just I don't know why.
I would always tease him at the end of that
segment and I just call him z Ze. Yeah, and uh,

(19:11):
just and he stays in touch with us and stops
him when he's back in Cincinnati, you know. And so
that's who we're talking about. We talked about doctor Z
and he did. I mean, after the Gardening Show, I
had to give him credit. You know the first year
he you know, I always pushed the cut of the
live Christmas tree and he would to Here's a guy
that was twenty years old finishing up college and went

(19:33):
out got himself a live cut Christmas tree and the
tree stand and put the lights on it and the
whole nine yards. I mean, he was doing everything we
talked about. He had a couple of house plants. I
gave him a zz plant. He was doing the indoor plants.
So then after he moved and went to Washington dz
d C. He had a sweet tart. They did a

(19:54):
community garden and his garden number eighty three and they
you know, he's been doing it for two three years
now and just dove right into it and send me
some pictures and it's it's very well done. They have
marigolds for the repelling repelling insects. They have the zennias
and all kinds of pollinator plants and it looks like
vegetable wise, it was mostly tomatoes and peppers. But they

(20:18):
did a great job. And so I've always applauded him
for doing that, and I thought it was always cool.
But that's who doctor Z is and that's why we
kid him a lot. He's a gates to get married,
a gig. You're posted on that. He's a good kid
as well. Eight hundred eight two three eighty two five
five year in the garden with Roun.

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Speaker 1 (22:27):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five, talking about yard ning. As we moved,
like I said earlier through this month of October, you know,
we finally had one morning here. I think it was
two days ago that we were down into the upper thirties,

(22:48):
low forties outlying areas a chance of frost. I don't
think we didn't in our area anyway, get any frost.
I think we did in central and northern Ohio did
come through. I think Jerry Rosear giant pumpkin grower, showed
me twenty nine degrees in northeastern Ohio. So a little

(23:08):
frost up there and light freeze, I guess you could say,
But I think the thing to remember is this. I
always get a lot of folks to say, you know,
we get that first frost, you know, is that our
signal force to stop growing at gardening and working out
in the yard and whatever, you know, planting trees and shrubs.
Heck no, we got a long way to go. As
a matter of fact, that first frost is I love

(23:29):
it because it finally starts to knock a few things back,
you know, some of the annuals, starts to knock back
some of those perennial the foliages, starting to slow things
down a little bit more, you know, getting us reminding
us that fall is here. But you know, by no
means is it a cutoff for getting out there and

(23:50):
planting and taking care of other things. And don't be
too anxious about if you've got cannas or dahlia's kalladiums
things like that that need to be dug up eventually
and stored away in the basement or a cool storage area,
whatever it may be, don't be too anxious to start

(24:10):
digging that stuff up. A lot of times you read
and the way a lot of these things are written
when you do some research on the internet says, you know,
it'll talk about you know, when we have that first frost,
after that first frost, and you can go in and start. Well,
the first frost really a lot of times doesn't do
anything unless it's a really heavy frost, but typically doesn't

(24:33):
do anything. You want two or three good frost. And
we're talking frost which affects the foliage. We're not talking
freezes which affects the soil and freezing in the soil
which could cause damage to those tubers and rhizomes in
that that you're going to be digging up. So again,

(24:53):
don't let frosts throw you off from your fall gardening plans,
because frost just kind of help you along as it
starts to knock things back. And when we start getting
frosts out there. The only thing I'm concerned about house plants, obviously,
and if you still have house plants, fall these plants
outside and we still do. As I mentioned earlier this year,

(25:17):
Missus Wilson has gotten into, Wow, I don't know where
we're gonna put all these plants, but we've got plants galore,
but at least bringing them up to the to the
foundation of the house under the overhang, and that protects
them from any frost and it stays fairly warm along
the foundation there. We haven't gotten that cool yet, but
starting to move those inside. She's in the process of

(25:39):
trying to figure out where everything is going to go.
As we start to work it inside, those I do
worry about, you know. And it's amazing how cool the
temperature is that most of those tropical plants can take,
you know. I I for those of you that me
have listened to our show for many years, we used
to have a jade plant now wind up giving it away.

(25:59):
This a plant that was like three feet in diameter.
It was in a twelve inch clay pot. Was huge,
It was gorgeous. It was tough durble. Somebody was an
heirloom jade plant that someone had given me a cutting
from grandmother or someone. And then this had been passing
along for years. And I always left that thing sitting

(26:20):
outside until we got close to Thanksgiving in our area
and they got typically a cup of frosts it got.
The cooler temperatures never affected it, and when I brought
it back inside, I actually in our landscape office would
bring it back in a foyer that stayed pretty cool
and cold over the wintertime and it could tolerate that

(26:42):
and what that would do, which was really weird. The
cool weather triggered it to flower. So I'd bring that
jade plant back in around after Thanksgiving, and by Christmas
it was covered with white flowers, which was pretty cool.
And I eventually I did get this thing got so
big as somebody at the office really loved it, and
I wound up giving it to them to take home

(27:03):
and enjoy at their home. But a point being is
a lot of them can't. A lot of those plants
can't take fairly cool temperatures. The freezing freezing freeze is
not a good thing but occasional. So point being is,
try to get all those houseplants back inside the tropical plants,
get those protected. Otherwise, you know, if there's things in
the vegetable garden that you're trying to stretch out, you know,

(27:25):
last minute tomatoes and peppers, go ahead and cover them up.
But you know, I don't. I just at this stage
it's time for mother nature to start taking these things out.
I love to start cleaning up the beds and get
I know it sounds crazy, but that's one of the
things I like about the fall season. I love after
all the things we planted, and all our hard work

(27:46):
going in and cleaning it up, cleaning out the beds,
cleaning out all the annuals, mulching it, you know, adding
organic matter, working it in the soil. Nice little mulching
and cleaning up for the winter. Now I have kind
of compromised, all right, as we have learned over the
last few years about leaving some of those perennials alone

(28:10):
over the winter, like the black eyed Susans, the cone flowers,
things like that. That's got some nice woody stems, flowers
on the top of the seed heads. Leave them alone
for mother nature wildlife to overwinter and use those. I
get it. So I'm doing a little compromise there, but
I do enjoy getting it and cleaning out everything and

(28:34):
cleaning out those beds and prepping I'm getting ready for
next year. I like nice clean beds as well, so
I got a combination of both. So we're compromising there,
but I enjoyed doing that this time of the year.
I think it's great. So I welcome the frost to
start knocking that stuff back and a getting the houseplants inside.
But otherwise I let mother nature do her thing from

(28:54):
that point on and do remember. And I've gotten caught
and you probably have too, as we do finally start
to get into some colder temperatures, not just frosty temperatures,
but colder temperatures where it is looking to actually freeze
and get in the low thirties and into the twenties.
To take that water hose, the hose off of the

(29:15):
spigot outside, disconnect that and just leave it there if
you're still using it. Remember, I always say the last
two tools that I put away at the end of
the season my garden spade. I keep the rakeout too,
but the garden spade because I'm still planting and edging
and weeding and doing whatever. And the hose because if
this day's dry, I'm continuing to water, especially those evergreens,

(29:39):
right up until the holiday season and then it's pretty
well done. But I keep the hose right there unattached.
So and I've had it two times, had to replace
ours because I forget all about it. As a matter
of fact, Gary Sullivan, our home improvement expert, it would
kiss me every now and then because he and I
talk about that. We get into the fall, don't forget

(29:59):
take your hose off disconnected. Make sure you know that
you know the water can drain, asso doesn't freeze. And
guess who forgets to do it even after talking about
it on the radio. Me So sometimes his producer does too,
and sometimes Danny does. We all do. I think we've
all done it. Yeah, but again you might want to

(30:20):
check that out too. But again, don't let light frosts
or any frost right now slow you down as far
as planting, edging, whatever your need to do out there.
You know, spot treating the weeds. You remember mid to
late October excellent time for spot treating weeds in that lawn.
But doing things like that, and still plenty of time
to plant spring flowering bulbs, evergreens, tree shrubs, whatever it

(30:41):
may be. We're still planting. Don't let these frosts be
your excuse to stop doing what you need to be
doing outside. We got a long way to go, and
typically October, most of November and possibly into December as well.
Before we take a break, let's go to Dayton. Talk
to Dick from Dayton. Come on, by, good morning.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
How's everybody?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Everybody is doing great? How are you well?

Speaker 7 (31:06):
I like this cool weather?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
You know I do too. I couldn't wait for it
to start to cool down.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Yeah, it's it's really nice. It's really nice, and you
know people are gonna you know, you're gonna have to
for another month. We might have that cold weather come in,
you know.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yep. Yeah, kind of remind you back in the old
days of carrying out those bags of salt and snow
shovels and all that when you worked at lows.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Yeah, and you know, the biggest, the biggest what we
we we uh, you would get a load of shovels
and people would they would line the streets and wait
in the snow. You couldn't keep a snow shovel there
when I work.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
You know, I love it. I love it. So how
you doing. You're doing well?

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yeah, I'm doing pretty good.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
You've been watching the baseball playoffs this week?

Speaker 7 (31:57):
No, hey, maybe flatcoat and bring some luck to the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
What do you think I will see? We're going to
find out.

Speaker 7 (32:07):
Will Yeah, well in Ohio State can't be beat. And
they they got a heck of a ball club.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know, they're looking really good. But you know, in
college football today, Dick, you never know who's gonna sneak
in there and take a win away from anybody is
about anybody's game anymore. But you're right, Ohio State's looking
pretty darn tough right now.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
Yep, yep. But I heard from a couple of my
people of the garden. I know, June from Belbrook sent
me a little card, you know, for the stummers. I
got to get back there. I been so busy here
this week helping Heather with activities. They had a nice
little band yesterday and it was I sat hand a
little bit, you know. They were just playing. We'd do

(32:49):
some songs and stuff, and we had a nice crowd.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Good, excellent. Well keep it up, keep entertaining and keep
calling us. Okay, have a break, all right, good talking
with you, Dick. Take care Dick from Dayton. Right there,
ladies and gentlemen, quick break, we come back. Hey. Phone
lines are open for you, by the way, special guests today,
We've got Jeff Teeple's going to join us at the
bottom of the next hour. No guests at the beginning

(33:15):
of the hour, so it's from between now and then
it's you and me talking yard again. The phone lines
are open for you at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five It's all happening here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (35:05):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ramos. I threw
threw Danny off by saying something a little bit different
than I usually do. Yes, you did, thank you. Yeah,
my pleasure. No, I just I don't know why I
did that. You know, you have a routine and they
always the producer knows exactly when you're going to stop
and all that kind of stuff. And I said it
backwards and he kind of just like anyway, uh, eight
hundred and eight two three eight two five five talking

(35:27):
about yarding. Having a good time this morning. By the way,
I'm all fired up because I love doing the show
and I love talking about yarding, love talking with you
and sharing tips and back and forth, and uh, you know,
hopefully you'll share tips with me as well. And I
love the cooler weather. It always just changes me totally
when I know fall is really here and the boy
you could tell it this week and I am loving

(35:49):
it all right to Marry and Ohio we go, Lisa,
good morning.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Good morning, Ron, love your show, Thank you and listening
for thank you. Just a quick question. I got some
immigrin ur ravieties. Yes, that I'm trying to plant. The
ground is very hard compacted, even a little bit of
gravel in there. I'm slowly getting the holes, Doug ye said,

(36:20):
I admend the soil anyway before I put those in
the ground.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, that's a good question. You know. The thing of
it is, you know you want to use basically the
same soil that you took out of the hole to
put back in the hole, because they have to grow
in that anyway. But right, so if you take that
in amend it and I usually use a percentage of
about twenty percent twenty five percent with the Soil Amendment.
So what is the soil amendment? Compost, manure, pine fines,

(36:49):
you know, anything like that is great to add to it,
but about twenty to twenty five percent. So when you've
got that hole dug and you got that soil sitting
up there, pour that on top, chop it all together,
and then use that as your backfill around that and
again still using the original soil that came out, but
slightly amended. And I think the key is, Lisa, once

(37:10):
you get those planted settled in water min I mean
soak them until the water's coming back up out of
the hole, so you know that they are thoroughly soaked,
and you're gonna want to keep them evenly moist, not
soaking wet, but evenly moist for the first two or
three weeks until they get settled in, and then you
want to water as needed right up until the holidays.

(37:32):
That's a key to the success of planning arborvity, especially
or any evergreen anytime of the year, especially in the fall,
so water is going to be a real key. But yeah,
absolutely a twenty percent soil amendment. I highly recommend.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
So like just some cal manure, chicken manure or something.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
As long as it's as long as it's composted. I
mean the chicken. You know, it's got to be composted,
regular compost, yeah, or bag maneure. There's one called the cow.
I love that one. There's also a check with your
local garden center. Check and see if they have what's
called pine fines. It's a real fine pine bark, and

(38:14):
I think you'll find that a lot of landscapers, a
lot of garden centers now have pretty much gone to
that as there as their main go to as a
soil amendment is called pine fines. But again, any organic
matter like that'll work for you.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Okay, okay, because some people are saying, no, do this,
and then other people are saying, oh, no, you gotta
add this. But what about jensum gensum.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
You don't recommend, No, don't need that. The only thing,
you know, you don't need anything to add to that.
The only other thing I could suggest if you want
to in addition to is using like a water soluble
roots stimulant that you would also add to that, like
furlough and roots stimulant. That's a possibility. But I think
what the key to this whole the success is digging

(38:59):
the right size hole, a little bit of soil amendment,
getting it backfilled, and again, like I said, watering right
now and through the fall season is going to be
the key to the success. Whether you don't feed them,
you know, don't forget the gyps and all that stuff.
Watering is going to be the key to this whole thing,
getting them through the winter and then through the next
spring and getting them rooted in so you know, but

(39:20):
the root stimulat it can help you out a little
bit there too. But forget the gypsum and all that
other stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Not necessary, Okay, Okay, I was just gonna put a
soaker hose on it.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Well, Now, be careful with the soaker hose because if
you don't leave that turned on long enough, it doesn't
water them deep in it, right, So you know you
may want to hand water those for the first two
or three or four weeks to make sure that you're
really soaking them in. Well, that's the biggest drawback I
had with soaker hoses. They can be very deceiving.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Okay, got it. Okay, one last question on I really
appreciate your help.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Now, of course, I I got a good price on them,
so I was waiting till, you know, the end of
the season to get a good price. Some of them
have some brown on them. Should I trim that at all?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Or yeah? And you know what I do is I
get them planning and get them in the ground, get
them settled in. Then come back with your hand pruners
and anything that's brown in there, get that clipped out
of there. So now you've got no brown. And remember
our provider, you're going to shed some needles on the inside. Naturally,
they're going to go through that right now. So as
you're done planning and you're watering, hose that out and

(40:31):
really rinse them out on the inside. That'll knock a
lot of those down. And whatever branches that mus still
maybe did to the brown, take your hand pruners and
clip those out so most of that brown except for
the shedding needles on the inside are gone, so you
don't see that and that way, if it continues to brown,
then you've got may have other issues with the plant,
and you want to make sure where we got them

(40:52):
that you let them know that there's other issues going on.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Beautiful, beautiful, Oh, thank you so much, ron I really
your house.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You're welcome, good luck with everything. Good talking with you.
And that's you know, a good point, you know, planning
this time of the year. You know again wherever you
buy them, hopefully they're guaranteed and if by chance things
can if you have a little brown on them like
that'll happen. Sometimes you clip it off and if it
continues on, let them know that you think you're having
a little bit of problem. They may be able to

(41:21):
help you out as far as what's going on, or
at least they know ahead of time to make sure
that plant is guaranteed. Randy and Ohio, Good morning, good
morning round, Yes sir.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Hey, my white pine treaties are doing their annual shitty Yes, boy,
this year I've got like multiple pickup truckloads of pine needles. Now,
they make a dandy bonfire, but they're better use for.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Them laying underneath the white pines that they came from.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, they're just everywhere, all over the lawn and everything else.
I collect them.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, the thing about but the thing about pine needles is,
you know, can you put them in a compost pile.
You can. They're slow to break down, so it takes
a long time, so you want to make sure you
grind them up and get them as fine as you can.
But you can throw them into that. But I always
suggest if you can, to rake them up, Randy, and
put them right back underneath that tree. I mean, that's
what it's doing. And mulch that bet. You know, make

(42:20):
the bed mult bed underneath it as wide as the
bottom branches and just let those needles fall right there,
rake them back into it from the grass and let
it be its own mulch. Because pine needle mulch is
one of the best mulches out there, and so they do.
They multch themselves, and I think that would be, as
far as I'm concerned, the best answer as far as

(42:40):
what to do with those needles. Appreciate the call. Got
to take a quick break. We come back. Guess what
phone lines are open for you. Eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Don't forget our website, Ron
Wilson online dot com, Facebook page. In the Garden with
Ron Wilson. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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