October 19, 2024 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Talking yardening at eight hundred and eight two three A
two five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, personal
yard boy, and we are talking yarding, moving our way
through the month of October. Let's kick off our show,
as you well know, with a cup of Joe, mister
Joe Strecker, executive producer. We'll find out what's going on
his lown and his landscape. Still absolutely nothing and that's
good and he doesn't. That's okay with him. Our website,
(00:59):
Ryan will and all my dot com face but Paige
in the guarden with Wilson, Good morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't like this weather. I really hate it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Did you kind of shut her where you got up
in the mornings and saw that white stuff on the
the grass.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I didn't have any white stuff in my grass, but
it was it was cold and chili and.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Jeff rost on a windshield. Really well, we did well,
don't I think two mornings, three mornings. I didn't have
any prosy.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah. I think the coldest we got was like thirty
seven ish, So but.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I had to close windows and you know when.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I mean, we were opening windows.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
When I let the dogs out. It was it was cold,
and they were saying, oh, it's too cold. Yeah they
were trust me. And in Little Hansey that loaded the ground,
he was hating it too, but yeah, it was just no,
I hate the weather.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So sorry, then you just made it worse on yourself
when you went to Florida for a week. Az, wherever
you went to Florida, is it's still there. I'm assuming
it is, Okay, I mean the hurricanes it came, I'm
assuming it is. I was in the pan the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't hear that Disneyland disappeared, even though we didn't
go to Disneyland or disney World or whatever in Land Orlando. Yeah,
I don't think they got too much. Yeah they got
they got damage, but they got Yeah, they didn't get
a direct hit, right, they got after it already hit
Land for a while. Only had eighty one hundred mile winds.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah right, it was less than one hundred Yeah, pikers,
Yeah that's nothing. That's like my nephew said he lost
the part of their fence, screened the privacy fence.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, that wasn't only eighty two hundred miles an hours.
It's like, what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, that's how Yeah, it's like nothing. It's like a
you know, standing here when I still we said that
a couple weeks ago, it was forty and fifty mile
an hour winds. Yeah, I just can't imagine one hundred
and forty.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Gosh.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well yeah, I mean just because I had to do
a football game that night and just getting into the stadium,
I mean the forty fifty mile hour winds was crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But there weren't any field goals that night.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, ironically, the everything stopped way down the game, so
all they did was they delayed the game by by
half an hour. That's good to squeegee the field. And
these modern fields now, I mean they're just like college
and pro fields. They drained like you wouldn't believe. It
(03:34):
was amazing. I mean he sat there and he watched
the field it just like started soaking up and the
drainage system. I mean, granted, it's uh, it's one of
the schools that's got a lot of money, so they
were able to Florida field like those I.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Up.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I mean if it was like one of the the
you know, the smaller public schools that has a grass field,
it would have been screwed. But you know, it's a
turf field. It's got the it's got the where it's
kind of like a little hump that you can't really
notice that everything kind of roll off to the side.
By the time of seven thirty world around there was
just a little little water that you could see on
the field.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Cool. It was great.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But there was no one in the stands. It was
there was more people in the press box. They were
in the stands. I'm my kid that we had. There's
maybe ten people showed up. Yeah, we brought.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
A lot just because on the radio, we brought home
a lot of concessions. Fine broadcast.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We brought him a lot of free concessions that night
we made We made.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Three fifteen dogs, ten burgers.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, anyway, so yeah, that's uh, that's what it is. So, well,
what's going on right now? I mean it's here, we
are in October, yeap. What should we be doing?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Nothing? Absolutely nothing, just just sitting back right back.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And watching it. Or what you can do is go
to run with online dot com and take off that
fall checklist.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, that's a good one. Walk your way through. And
of course I loved your answer last week with this
fall checklist. Not gonna do it, not gonna do it.
Not gonna do it, not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It wasn't your bucket list. Still I'm still gonna do it.
I still have my list. It's uh, not gonna do it. It's
on the refrigerator and nothing's checked off.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I just keep not gonna do that, not gonna do that.
So yeah I have.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I actually did put off the checklist. It's sitting on
the fridge and nothing's checked off.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Good for you, So you just ugh, just I could
laugh ago.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
The last the last two weeks, folks, you know, because
September a lot of folks didn't do anything rightfully. So
it was hot, it was dry, he couldn't get in
the ground anyway. After we finally got the little bit
of a drought breaker there that came through. And notice
how we haven't had anything since. Folks back outside again
doing whatever. So they are trying to get caught up,
and so right now a lot of the garden centers are
(06:03):
really coming on strong for October. But September was extremely
slow for everybody because he's just you know, what are
you gonna do? Besides playing a few mums and containers
and all that was about it, right, But folks are
out now and they're doing some plantings. So good. That's
a good thing. That's very good. Yes, very good.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So fall checklist, plant some moms, yep, and just kind
of write it out. That's what that's what you're telling people.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
To keep today. You keep planting trees and shrus what
you're telling we're now we're selling trees like crazy. So
the rate to plant good thing. Yeah, there you go.
Did you get the article about the white oaks?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Did I get the article about the white oaks? You?
Since I'm since I'm playing dumb and I you know,
I get, I get as much email, probably more, as
you know. I affwarded it too, So if I missed it,
I will I apologize and get it up there as
soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
No, I was curious if you got that because it's
a it's about planting trees, but not for the climate.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Gotcha for other reasons. I'll talk about that today. I'll
have to I apologize. I will not.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I just I'm just asking if you saw that. I didn't. Okay,
I know you get a lot of stuff, so I'm
a popular man. If you say so, what guests you
got today? Guess you that's it? Gary? Okay, Buggy Joe,
that's it, And we just mentioned I just gave you
a tease about Notice how it hasn't rained since that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, okay, Rita's next weekend, the weekend before Halloween. I got.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
To be in studio. No, I wish you never comes
in the studio anymore. I don't know does anybody come
to the studio anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
She used to come in the studio all the time
and bring our posting food.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And all kinds of stuff. I don't know. Maybe this
year we should really sit down and get serious and
do the Thanksgiving special again like we used to. Buggy Joe, Rita,
you and me, Danny, you and me, in between you
and me, in between sampling food. There you go.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, but Buggy Joe can eat the squirrel squirrel braids,
the squirrel chest squirrel braids with gravy. Yeah, that's that's
all him.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think that brought the house down that when he
brought that up that time. So traditional foods, well, uh,
squirrel braids with gravy. My grandma used to make that
for me when I came home.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Really and then thirty five seconds of silence, everybody was
like what okay, hey, it still wasn't as good as
when you ate the cricket the grasshoppers, I was disgusting.
I still have that barbecue grasshoppers still have that taste.
I can still taste it. I can still see the
look on your face and the noise I made when
(08:57):
I I can still remember that too.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
If I need a good laugh, I just think about you. Yeah,
and when I need a good laugh, I remember the ghost. Yeah, eggs,
you're welcome because I still have that on. I still
had that video that we've we've videoed that and put
it on YouTube. Yeah we did, well, I didn't you did.
That was back when we had a video budget. Yeah,
(09:24):
that was a video budget. Yeah, we had a video
budget back then. Some good times Eddie and Joey good times,
good times. So the website Ron Wilson online dot com.
And in addition to the article that I didn't post,
we have a buggy Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Talking to you posted, I asked if you saw it,
if you saw what it was about.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There's an article about africanized honey bees. There you go,
so get ready for that. Yeah, and speaking of this
is has nothing to do with squirrel brains. But Rita's
got a couple of recipes on here, talking to about
one's about leftovers, if he got some straggler or vegetables
that you didn't get that he didn't eat, or or
(10:08):
just kind of sitting on the on the counter. She's
got a relish recipe that you can kind of combine
everything and make one big old Dixie relish, big old
Shmorgas board of sounds really good of whatever you got left.
And she also has a a cheese sauce for football
that sounds like something you could like poured over a football. Yeah,
(10:31):
you poured over a football, No, when you watch football,
and it's you could use it as dip or put
on your potato skins.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Or oh what potato? So yeah, I bet it has
bacon in it. Yeah, well, or.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Else I wouldn't have posted it, or else I would
have edited it and added it bacon.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
If you noticed last week she had the the squash
with sausage, Yeah, this week it's bacon.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, Hm, that she.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Slaughter a pig. Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
No one reason's trying to make I said, hands probably
rustled it down and you like Granny from the Beverly Hill,
but totally totally uh, and the planet of the week
this week. Yes, is the honeysuckle vine. Major Wheeler, Major Wheeler.
That's what they used to call me when I was
(11:20):
driving my beat car.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Major Wheeler. He's a major Wheeler. It's a really cool
honeysuckle vine. Uh. It's really easy to grow, orange red flowers.
Does it off and on pretty much all summer long.
Hummingbirds love it, pollinators love it. And if you're looking
for a really good, hearty, not overly aggressive vine pergolas
(11:43):
or arbors or sturdy trailish or whatever, this is one
of those vines. Is probably under underused, uh, although it's
getting a lot more attention lately, it seems like. But
it's called major wheeler. Honey suck pretty plant. Yeah, check
out the pictures on nice like a plant, nice of flowers.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah cool, that's it for me.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's it. Yep, all right. Joe Strecker, Executive producer, there's.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No football this week. I know, I don't know what
I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do today.
Why aren't you taking nap? I mean I am disappointed
after last week. Well, yeah, I mean Ryan Day did
not take any of my advice he forgot to play defense.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Obviously. Yeah, what can I say? But you said you
didn't have any sleep this week, so why don't you
take it today and take advantage of it and just sleep. Sure,
turn on college football of other games and just sleep.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, if if the team up north is playing, I'm
definitely gonna fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, well, that's a good one to put you to
sleep right there, right there, or notre dame either one.
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
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Speaker 1 (13:21):
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Speaker 2 (13:22):
Thank you doctors.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
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Speaker 1 (16:47):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yarding to Columbia, South Carolina.
We shall go. Brett, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm good serting yourself?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Not too bad?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I can't good? What can we do for you?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Army worms? I'm a pest control operator. Came across them
in the customer's yard that recently had sod put in,
and it took me all of five minutes to lift
up to the sod and I found them. Contacted the
Clemson Extension, which is our regulatory down here right, really
(17:29):
really no suggestions on how to get rid of them.
Did some Google searches and came up with you know,
heavy don soap and water in the yard.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, what that does kind of flushes them up.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was thinking too.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, when you do, and that's that's a good way
sometimes to detect a lot of different insects in the soil.
Is that don soap and water and what they'd hate
that stuff. So they come up out of the soil
so you can you know, detect, see what's in there
and then go as far as the treatment goes for
you know, and for army worm, is it pretty bad?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I mean I sounded three or four of them in
fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, that's not that's not bad. You know what's in
our area we don't we have our own army worms.
There's you know, there's the army worms that you all
see and more from the south, and sometimes we'll get
those that blow up like and we were kind of
expecting it with the with the hurricanes. Sometimes they blow
up through the fronts and they come and we in
about two years ago, I think it was Ohio got
(18:34):
hit really hard with those from the south, and it
was kind of unusual. You see him every now and then,
but not like we had any They just caught everybody
off guarden, Like within a three day period, they had
destroyed backyards, front yards wherever they landed. But we're talking
tons of them, I mean they were they were just
everywhere and and again, controls are tough, uh, as far
(18:57):
as you know, do that, but when you only find
two or three or four here and there, typically not
an issue as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, so now a little more tricky different yard hammerhead worms. Yeah, species, yep,
that's an extension nothing. What's the treatment? You have any idea?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
There aren't any And I think I've read citric acid
sometimes works on them. But here's the problem. How do
you know where they are? You know, you can dig
through and find two or three or four. Uh, And
of course what the best thing they're saying anytime you
find those hammerheads and by the way, they really can
be very invasive, and they are moving and we're starting
(19:45):
to see a few in our area as well. But again,
no true controls. Besides, when you find them, smash them,
take care of them physically. And like I said, I
had read earlier because we've had a few of them
crop up here there someone have been using something like
a citric acid and something else that they were uh
pouring in the area and as seem to do a
(20:07):
job on the ones that were there. But again, you
don't want to treat the whole area because you don't
want to take care of the other earthworms that they're
there too. So right now, as far as I know,
there aren't any controls besides physically taking care of what
you find. So unfortunately they're right and from what I
know too, nothing there is. But just whenever you find them,
(20:30):
smash them. Try to do that. But that's that's about
all you can do. Appreciate the call. Take a quick break,
Jim from Westchester. You're coming up next. Eight hundred eight
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Speaker 1 (23:07):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking yardening to Westchester we go. Jim,
Good morning, How are you this morning?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Not too bad?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Any?
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I got a basic question from grass server seeding. I
miss missed the September A lot of things going on
cutting overseas. Have I missed the window for grass server seeding?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, here's the kicker. You know, obviously, yes September,
middle of August through the end of September optimum time,
first couple of weeks of October typically we're still there.
For the turf type tall fescues perennial rise, they come
up fairly quickly. So now all of a sudden we're
past those first two weeks incept in October and the
window is really closing quickly. And now we've got started
(23:56):
to get some nighttime tempts dropping down that you know
thinks you're going to start to change a bit. So
what do you do at this stage? Personally this week
and Bear Areas went ahead and raked out the debris
and did some seeding. I'm gonna take a chance. You're
really rolling the dice at this stage. Windows closing quickly.
You know, if it was a major overseed, you know,
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you may even want to hold off a little bit
and do it as a dormant seed, just so you
don't take a chance. But you are rolling the dice
at this stage. Yep, totally in Mother Nature's hands from
this point out. Now, feeding wise, you're still good to go.
And as a matter of fact, if you got it
down this weekend. You you know, in another five to
six weeks you could put down the second feeding would
put you around, you know, closer to Thanksgiving. But we've
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done it that late in the season, so you got
those options. Yet as far as feeding, core air rating,
you're still good. Spot treating for weaves is this is
an excellent month to do that. So that's all good.
But grass seating itself, boy, it is a roll of
the dice from this point forward.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
That's what I thought. Didn't want to waste my time.
It's so young. I'm going to core air rate seed
the lawn. Also springtime, can I overseed? Or did I
dismiss the whole window and wait till next fall?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh no? The second bet that obviously fall the best time.
Second best time is dormant seeding, and that would be
anytime where we get far enough into the fall season
and it's not going to germinate and grow. So once
we get in past usually past Thanksgiving, you're good to go.
Or I like to do it mid to late February.
And the reason I do that mid to late February
still dormant, the soil's freezing and thawing, and when it
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does that, it works at grass seed right into the
soil for you, and typically it's you know, you got its.
Timing wise is great. It settles in, you got it
ready to go. As soon as the weather breaks soil
temperatures warm, that grass seed is there and ready to go. Otherwise,
if you wait, sometimes it can be wet in the springtime.
You don't know what the temperature going to be, like
blah blah blah. So that would be the second best time,
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third best time, or actually the one of the worst
times is actually spring seating. But that's when most people
do it, but you know and get away with it.
But yeah, so fall or dormant seeding anytime December or
like I said, I like mid to late February with
the freezing and thowng going on at that time.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Okay for doe to February. Then when how long can
I wait before I put any weed prevention down?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Like yeah, the pre emergent Well, that's where we get into.
There's a there is a product made by Scott's it's
their Step one for newly seeded lawns. It's a pre
emerged herbicide that will allow grass seed to germinate and grow.
But it goes after the other weed seeds, including crab grass,
and I think it lasts about forty five to sixty days,
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so it gives you enough time for that grass seed
to get germinated growing, and then you can come back
after that and you want to try to mow the grass,
you know, the new grass, maybe once or twice, then
come back and put that pre emergent down the last
you longer into the summer season. But otherwise you can't
use any of the other ones. On top of that,
you'd have to wait until it's up growing mode and
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then you've got you come back over to that. But
you can use it. And I think the one with
Scott's has a starter fertilizer in it as well, so
you give it the feeding and the pre emerged herbyside
and you can do that. Heck, I would wait to
do that till late March early April, but you could
do it at that point. That carries you into middle
of May.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Okay, because I generally use your three step program m HM,
and you just I couldn't get it this year. So
that answers my questions on edit. That's awesome, all.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Right, good, thank you so much. You're welcome, good talking
with you. You know, I want to back up for a second.
We were talking about those hammerhead worms, and somebody brought
up about three or four weeks ago about the fact
they had gone to a class and the naturalis was
talking about the earthworms in our area and that there
are no native earthworms and most of North North America
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because of the glaciers. The way they moved through and
actually moved took most of them out. And most of
the earth worms that we have in most of the
central to northern part of the United States were brought
here from Europe when the Europeans came over and the
boats or whatever they may be, and that's where a
lot of the worms came from. Some of the native
worms still in the Southern States starting to work their
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way back up to the north, but most of them
are non natives. But then again, look how long they've
been here, blah blah blah, But they're actually non natives.
It's an interesting story about that. But over the years,
with different types of fishing worms, with this hammerheadworm, jumping worms,
non natives again, and all of a sudden start to
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show up where folks have used them for whatever reason.
Or we're in something, and they are very aggressive. They
spread quickly. I have seen the jumping worm. As a
matter of fact, I dug a couple out renovating an
area in our backyard and I didn't realize what it was.
But when I got this thing out, it was like
a snake. And you know, they're not all that big,
(29:00):
they're still four five six inches long, like a nightcrawler,
but just jump an all over the place. I mean,
just really crazy stuff. And again, when you find those,
there's no real control because if you control those, you
control all the earth worms and they're which you don't
want to do. So every time you find one, you
just try to destroy it. The thing about those hammerhead worms,
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and you'll recognize them because they look like a hammerhead
shark on the top. They've got that flat hammer head
on the top. They're quick debris eaters. They really change
the forest floor. Again, not a good thing. And they
are toxic, so you've got to be careful when you
if you see them, how you handle them? Now you'd
have to I think you'd have to have an open
wound or whatever. But they do suggest that you use
(29:44):
gloves or something, and if you just chop them up
in a couple pieces. They can regenerate, so you've got
to be careful there. Most of the time, they suggest
smashing them, putting them in a plastic bag with a
little bit of salt something like that, and destroying them
that way, or cooking them inside that bag. If the
pets got a hold of them. That it is toxic.
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It can cause you to get sick, so be cautious
with those as well. But it's an interesting story about
our earthworms and most central to northern United States not
actually being native earthworms because of the way the glaciers
moved through and took them to the south, but we
are seeing more and more of them coming back up
in the southern area. Anyway, someone said, can you get
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somebody on to talk about that, and we have a
couple of times. One of our issue extension agents very
good at that, and he had talked about that many
years ago. So we're getting back on here in another
month or so and we'll talk about the story about
those native earthworms and non native earthworms. We'll talk about
the jumpers and the hammerheads too, and the issues that
they're causing. And a lot of times these earthworms, you
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know that folks buy different types of worms for fishing,
and when they're done, they just talk them out in
the woods. And that's how a lot of times these
unwanted varieties wind up showing up in different places. So
very interesting, but again no real control for these. But
if you do find either one of those, you do
want to destroy them. That's your best defense at this stage.
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A little shout out to my uncle listening this morning
with my cousin in the North Carolina. Danny, you're a
home area there when you were with the Wolfman.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Jack Yep of Eastern North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Of North Carolina, listen to our show this morning. Setting
out on the dock of the bay. It's got a
nice little lake and they said out, yeah, in the morning,
to have a little coffee and watch the fish jumping out.
So listening to our show and we appreciate that very much.
All right, quick break, we come back. Phone lines are
open for you at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five coming up the top of the hour
the arbor doc Ron rothis will join us. You know
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it happened. We knew this was gonna happen. We had
Helena come through and give us some great showers, some
high winds, but some great rainfall, some great relief from
the drought that we were going through. But guess what,
since then we had any rain, not much, if any
at all. So yeah, we'll find out where we are
at this. Are we getting back into that drought situation.
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson talking
yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Moving right on through the month of October. Can you
believe that, Well, we got two weeks and we get
to Halloween. By the way, I do want to remind
you if if you still do the live pumpkins and
the carving and all that stuff, you know, don't carve
them too early unless you really want them to look
(34:39):
really gnarly and nasty by the time you get the Halloween. Uh,
you know, take your time and carve him a few
days ahead. Of time, but I can help you out
a little bit as far as keeping them preserved a
little bit longer. You know, sometimes they'll they start to
shrivel obviously, as soon as you puncture the skin. And
what happens is you let all the moisture out of
the inside of the pumpkin. So you know, once you
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puncture that skin, it starts to shrivel, just like if
you bruise it. Puncture it, like when you're shipping it
or whatever, and then all of a sudden it starts
to shrivel in that area. That's the reason why. As
a matter of fact, I went through a and I
won't mention the name of the store, but it's not
a grocery store. But they had a couple pallets of
pumpkins in right when you walked in the front of
(35:21):
the store inside, and they've been there for about three weeks.
Hadn't sold too many of them, I don't think, And
I went in there the other day and they had
moved those out, and obviously a couple of them inside
the middle of the pumpkin bin had decayed and it
was all over the floor. And of course it's that
nice smell too. But I just kind of shook my
(35:43):
head and said, okay, but anyway, that's what happens. So
when you carve your pumpkin, it starts to shrivel from
that point forward. And we've seen all kinds of things
out there where they've clean them with bleach, they seal
them with vas a lean, all that kind of stuff.
The best two things I've seen happen with those to
keep moisture. Sometimes you can put them in a tuble water.
Sometimes it helps to rehydrate them a little bit. But
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they start to also mold. And you hear me talking
about and of course Gary Sullivan talking about Wet and
Forget for cleaning your deck or whatever getting rid of
the mold analogy, and it kind of eats that off
of there for you, well, believe it or not. They
did some research and it's not labeled for this, but
Wet and Forget did their research on this, and they
sprayed pumpkins, the inside of pumpkins with Wet and Forget
(36:28):
once or twice, and it actually kept them from turning
black and they stayed hydrated a little bit longer by
spraying with the Wet and Forget. And so you know,
if you want to make it. Try to get it
to the last a little bit longer. Give them a
couple of shots of wet and forget when you're done carving,
and that may help you to make them last a
little bit longer. We used to always do it the
(36:49):
night before Halloween, so they were nice and fresh the
next day, because depending on the weather, whether state can
really start to shrivel and look pretty gnarly a few
days after you're done carving. Also, I never even thought
about this, but I saw an article I forget where
I got this, that was one of the Soil and
Water Conservation districts or something to mention that the USDA
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says there's about a billion and that's right, a billion
pounds of pumpkins sent to the landfills every fall. And
they said that's about eighty percent of the number of
pumpkins that are purchased are sent to the landfill. You know,
you're done with it, you carved at whatever you throw
in the trash goes to the landfill. And you say, well,
what's wrong with that? Because it's a biodegradable's all natural,
(37:34):
it breaks down. It's true, but the landfills really have
they don't have the like the necessary nutrients and oxygen
that's needed to decompose pumpkins especially, and so it can
take actually a decade for some of these pumpkins to
break down, and during that time they emit methane gas
in the process. All right, so what do you do
(37:57):
rather than send them to the landfill? And now, if
you can't do anything with it, that's fine, yeah, you said,
But if we can kind of cut that back a
little bit, check if you if you haven't sprayed it
with anything, you haven't treated it with anything. Check with
your local farmer or a neighbor who has livestock. A
lot of times, especially pigs and all they love eating pumpkins.
You can drop those and don't just take them and
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drop them off. Ask first.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But we used to have, you know, a lot of
hog growers in our area that would check with you know,
at the end of at Halloween when you go do
with the pumpkins afterwards, and would come and pick them
up and take them and feed their hogs with them.
So find out that's a possibility, throw it in your
own compost pile, cut it up in pieces, throw it
in your own compost pile that does have the source
of oxygen and the nutrients necessary to decompose your pumpkin,
(38:45):
so you can get them to break down faster and
much quicker, and all in your own compost pile. So
use that, or just you know, if you just set
them down somewhere on the edge of the woods or whatever,
open up the top and let wildlife, mother nature, lother
the's lot like to go in and eat the meat
out of the inside of that well now on a
chew through it maybe whatever. And if there's any seeds
(39:07):
left in it, of course they'll take care of those
as well. Do that and let them feed on it,
and it just turns into mush. Doesn't take too long
sitting there. It seems like next thing you know, it's
all gone. Just kind of turns into the mush. Do
it that way as well. So those are ways that
you can try to get rid of those without sending
them back to the landfill. And I know it sounds
kind of weird, but you know, I never even thought
(39:28):
about it, but it's the way it's set up, that's true.
And I didn't know it took that long for him
to break down in the landfill. When they don't have
the necessary nutrients and an oxygen to break down like
your compost pile would have. And again you have better
success when you cut them up. It'll break down a
lot faster for you, So keep that in mind as well.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five is
(39:49):
our number. Also talking about throwing things away, you know
right now leaves are starting to fall in our area.
They have been for a while. We've been experiencing that
since we went through the drought back in September, but
starting to now get into the fall season. And the
question came up the other day is you know, Ron,
you were always pushing about mowing those leaves back into
the turf. Well, what about this fall where a lot
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of the turfs in our area went dormant. We got
the rainfall that came back, but many of them are
not as full as they normally would be in there
thinner and we're gonna do some seating, or we already
did some seating. Got some new grass coming up. Now
do I mow those leaves back into the turf? No, no,
(40:32):
you don't, And again depends on how much new grass
you have coming up. But for the most part, mowing
leaves back into the turf is for mature turf. And
if you're doing any seating, overseating, bringing up new grass,
whatever it may be, you don't want to mow those
leaves back into the turf. You want to let that
new grass come up, get established, and then next year
(40:54):
we'll look at doing it back in the fall. But
for right now, if you're dealing with some bare areas
that you've seated, new grass coming up, or you're trying
to get new grass to come up yet this fall,
do not use the leaves in that particular area of
the turf. Not a good thing. Put them in the
compost pile, use them for mulching, put them around the
base of the trees, use them in your yard for
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other areas, composting, whatever may be, soil amendments. You know,
there's so many great things you can use leaves for
finely ground leaves, But don't put those back into an immature,
brand new, newly established or getting established turf. Nope, you
don't want to do that. Before we take a break,
and Ron Roth's coming up the top of the hour,
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Dick from Dayton.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Good morning, good morning, how are you run?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm great in yourself?
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Oh you tell Danny. Everything worked out. They worked out
a plan for her to come over here to the
Oak Creek. It's a ritchy area where we live. They're
gonna put her in bestening. She's fling fine. Yeah, yeah,
I've been seeing her and all my friends geting to
see her. But well, you know, I didn't mope this week.
(42:03):
I played so much music this week and everybody was
praying for it. But I had a good time this week.
I've really I missed one practice this week, and Bob called,
so I must be missed by these places.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, Well you are. You're always missed when you're
not there. Well, we're glad to hear that she's doing better.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
Yeah, oh, I got a prediction.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Okay, here comes.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Ben Bulls yep twenty seven overtime to Brown's twenty four.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Twenty seven, twenty four Bengals over the Brownies.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I wrote it down.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
We've got it written down. We're making our bets right now,
saying Dick said twenty seven, twenty four.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
They look pretty good the other night. Look at Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
You look pretty good, didn't It didn't look too bad?
Are you a little bit more encouraged?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I am all right.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
Have a good week, all.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Right, Dick, good talking to you. Glad to hear that
everything's doing well. All right, take care. Dick from Dayton.
Always pleasure're talking with Dick. He is very famous in
the Dayton area and even miles on all of Ohio.
If you have a radio station, everybody knows Dick from Dayton.
Always pleasure hearing from.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I believe you even called another sports network too.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
There.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Did you get on with Rush Limball one time? I
think talked to Rush a little bit too. Yeah, he's
talked to some of the big slibs. All Right, we're
gonna take a quick break. We come back. I asked
Ron Roethlis if he would join us this morning. He's
out of town. He's at a conference up in Holmes County, Ohio,
enjoying the Amish country. H and so of course he
I love it up there too. But well, he has
(43:36):
agreed to talk to us this morning. Find out what's
going on weather pattern, because you know, after Helena came through,
we got all that rainfall. Guess what, I haven't really
had anything since. Find out what's going on, what's he's
seeing out there, and a whole lot more here in
the Garden with Ron Wilson. How is your garden growing?
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Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three
Talk you're listening to. In the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Talking yardening at eight hundred and eight two three A
two five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, personal
yard boy, and we are talking yarding, moving our way
through the month of October. Let's kick off our show,
as you well know, with a cup of Joe, mister
Joe Strecker, executive producer. We'll find out what's going on
his lown and his landscape. Still absolutely nothing and that's
good and he doesn't. That's okay with him. Our website,
(00:59):
Ryan will and all my dot com face but Paige
in the guarden with Wilson, Good morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't like this weather. I really hate it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Did you kind of shut her where you got up
in the mornings and saw that white stuff on the
the grass.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I didn't have any white stuff in my grass, but
it was it was cold and chili and.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Jeff rost on a windshield. Really well, we did well,
don't I think two mornings, three mornings. I didn't have
any prosy.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah. I think the coldest we got was like thirty
seven ish, So but.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I had to close windows and you know when.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I mean, we were opening windows.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
When I let the dogs out. It was it was cold,
and they were saying, oh, it's too cold. Yeah they
were trust me. And in Little Hansey that loaded the ground,
he was hating it too, but yeah, it was just no,
I hate the weather.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So sorry, then you just made it worse on yourself
when you went to Florida for a week. Az, wherever
you went to Florida, is it's still there. I'm assuming
it is, Okay, I mean the hurricanes it came, I'm
assuming it is. I was in the pan the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't hear that Disneyland disappeared, even though we didn't
go to Disneyland or disney World or whatever in Land Orlando. Yeah,
I don't think they got too much. Yeah they got
they got damage, but they got Yeah, they didn't get
a direct hit, right, they got after it already hit
Land for a while. Only had eighty one hundred mile winds.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah right, it was less than one hundred Yeah, pikers,
Yeah that's nothing. That's like my nephew said he lost
the part of their fence, screened the privacy fence.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, that wasn't only eighty two hundred miles an hours.
It's like, what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, that's how Yeah, it's like nothing. It's like a
you know, standing here when I still we said that
a couple weeks ago, it was forty and fifty mile
an hour winds. Yeah, I just can't imagine one hundred
and forty.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Gosh.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well yeah, I mean just because I had to do
a football game that night and just getting into the stadium,
I mean the forty fifty mile hour winds was crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But there weren't any field goals that night.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, ironically, the everything stopped way down the game, so
all they did was they delayed the game by by
half an hour. That's good to squeegee the field. And
these modern fields now, I mean they're just like college
and pro fields. They drained like you wouldn't believe. It
(03:34):
was amazing. I mean he sat there and he watched
the field it just like started soaking up and the
drainage system. I mean, granted, it's uh, it's one of
the schools that's got a lot of money, so they
were able to Florida field like those I.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Up.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I mean if it was like one of the the
you know, the smaller public schools that has a grass field,
it would have been screwed. But you know, it's a
turf field. It's got the it's got the where it's
kind of like a little hump that you can't really
notice that everything kind of roll off to the side.
By the time of seven thirty world around there was
just a little little water that you could see on
the field.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Cool. It was great.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But there was no one in the stands. It was
there was more people in the press box. They were
in the stands. I'm my kid that we had. There's
maybe ten people showed up. Yeah, we brought.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
A lot just because on the radio, we brought home
a lot of concessions. Fine broadcast.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We brought him a lot of free concessions that night
we made We made.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Three fifteen dogs, ten burgers.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, anyway, so yeah, that's uh, that's what it is. So, well,
what's going on right now? I mean it's here, we
are in October, yeap. What should we be doing?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Nothing? Absolutely nothing, just just sitting back right back.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And watching it. Or what you can do is go
to run with online dot com and take off that
fall checklist.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, that's a good one. Walk your way through. And
of course I loved your answer last week with this
fall checklist. Not gonna do it, not gonna do it.
Not gonna do it, not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It wasn't your bucket list. Still I'm still gonna do it.
I still have my list. It's uh, not gonna do it. It's
on the refrigerator and nothing's checked off.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I just keep not gonna do that, not gonna do that.
So yeah I have.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I actually did put off the checklist. It's sitting on
the fridge and nothing's checked off.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Good for you, So you just ugh, just I could
laugh ago.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
The last the last two weeks, folks, you know, because
September a lot of folks didn't do anything rightfully. So
it was hot, it was dry, he couldn't get in
the ground anyway. After we finally got the little bit
of a drought breaker there that came through. And notice
how we haven't had anything since. Folks back outside again
doing whatever. So they are trying to get caught up,
and so right now a lot of the garden centers are
(06:03):
really coming on strong for October. But September was extremely
slow for everybody because he's just you know, what are
you gonna do? Besides playing a few mums and containers
and all that was about it, right, But folks are
out now and they're doing some plantings. So good. That's
a good thing. That's very good. Yes, very good.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So fall checklist, plant some moms, yep, and just kind
of write it out. That's what that's what you're telling people.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
To keep today. You keep planting trees and shrus what
you're telling we're now we're selling trees like crazy. So
the rate to plant good thing. Yeah, there you go.
Did you get the article about the white oaks?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Did I get the article about the white oaks? You?
Since I'm since I'm playing dumb and I you know,
I get, I get as much email, probably more, as
you know. I affwarded it too, So if I missed it,
I will I apologize and get it up there as
soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
No, I was curious if you got that because it's
a it's about planting trees, but not for the climate.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Gotcha for other reasons. I'll talk about that today. I'll
have to I apologize. I will not.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I just I'm just asking if you saw that. I didn't. Okay,
I know you get a lot of stuff, so I'm
a popular man. If you say so, what guests you
got today? Guess you that's it? Gary? Okay, Buggy Joe,
that's it, And we just mentioned I just gave you
a tease about Notice how it hasn't rained since that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, okay, Rita's next weekend, the weekend before Halloween. I got.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
To be in studio. No, I wish you never comes
in the studio anymore. I don't know does anybody come
to the studio anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
She used to come in the studio all the time
and bring our posting food.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And all kinds of stuff. I don't know. Maybe this
year we should really sit down and get serious and
do the Thanksgiving special again like we used to. Buggy Joe, Rita,
you and me, Danny, you and me, in between you
and me, in between sampling food. There you go.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, but Buggy Joe can eat the squirrel squirrel braids,
the squirrel chest squirrel braids with gravy. Yeah, that's that's
all him.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think that brought the house down that when he
brought that up that time. So traditional foods, well, uh,
squirrel braids with gravy. My grandma used to make that
for me when I came home.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Really and then thirty five seconds of silence, everybody was
like what okay, hey, it still wasn't as good as
when you ate the cricket the grasshoppers, I was disgusting.
I still have that barbecue grasshoppers still have that taste.
I can still taste it. I can still see the
look on your face and the noise I made when
(08:57):
I I can still remember that too.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
If I need a good laugh, I just think about you. Yeah,
and when I need a good laugh, I remember the ghost. Yeah, eggs,
you're welcome because I still have that on. I still
had that video that we've we've videoed that and put
it on YouTube. Yeah we did, well, I didn't you did.
That was back when we had a video budget. Yeah,
(09:24):
that was a video budget. Yeah, we had a video
budget back then. Some good times Eddie and Joey good times,
good times. So the website Ron Wilson online dot com.
And in addition to the article that I didn't post,
we have a buggy Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Talking to you posted, I asked if you saw it,
if you saw what it was about.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There's an article about africanized honey bees. There you go,
so get ready for that. Yeah, and speaking of this
is has nothing to do with squirrel brains. But Rita's
got a couple of recipes on here, talking to about
one's about leftovers, if he got some straggler or vegetables
that you didn't get that he didn't eat, or or
(10:08):
just kind of sitting on the on the counter. She's
got a relish recipe that you can kind of combine
everything and make one big old Dixie relish, big old
Shmorgas board of sounds really good of whatever you got left.
And she also has a a cheese sauce for football
that sounds like something you could like poured over a football. Yeah,
(10:31):
you poured over a football, No, when you watch football,
and it's you could use it as dip or put
on your potato skins.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Or oh what potato? So yeah, I bet it has
bacon in it. Yeah, well, or.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Else I wouldn't have posted it, or else I would
have edited it and added it bacon.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
If you noticed last week she had the the squash
with sausage, Yeah, this week it's bacon.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, Hm, that she.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Slaughter a pig. Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
No one reason's trying to make I said, hands probably
rustled it down and you like Granny from the Beverly Hill,
but totally totally uh, and the planet of the week
this week. Yes, is the honeysuckle vine. Major Wheeler, Major Wheeler.
That's what they used to call me when I was
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driving my beat car.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Major Wheeler. He's a major Wheeler. It's a really cool
honeysuckle vine. Uh. It's really easy to grow, orange red flowers.
Does it off and on pretty much all summer long.
Hummingbirds love it, pollinators love it. And if you're looking
for a really good, hearty, not overly aggressive vine pergolas
(11:43):
or arbors or sturdy trailish or whatever, this is one
of those vines. Is probably under underused, uh, although it's
getting a lot more attention lately, it seems like. But
it's called major wheeler. Honey suck pretty plant. Yeah, check
out the pictures on nice like a plant, nice of flowers.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah cool, that's it for me.
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That's it. Yep, all right. Joe Strecker, Executive producer, there's.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No football this week. I know, I don't know what
I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do today.
Why aren't you taking nap? I mean I am disappointed
after last week. Well, yeah, I mean Ryan Day did
not take any of my advice he forgot to play defense.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Obviously. Yeah, what can I say? But you said you
didn't have any sleep this week, so why don't you
take it today and take advantage of it and just sleep. Sure,
turn on college football of other games and just sleep.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, if if the team up north is playing, I'm
definitely gonna fall asleep.
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Yeah, well, that's a good one to put you to
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Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yarding to Columbia, South Carolina.
We shall go. Brett, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm good serting yourself?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Not too bad?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I can't good? What can we do for you?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Army worms? I'm a pest control operator. Came across them
in the customer's yard that recently had sod put in,
and it took me all of five minutes to lift
up to the sod and I found them. Contacted the
Clemson Extension, which is our regulatory down here right, really
(17:29):
really no suggestions on how to get rid of them.
Did some Google searches and came up with you know,
heavy don soap and water in the yard.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, what that does kind of flushes them up.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was thinking too.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, when you do, and that's that's a good way
sometimes to detect a lot of different insects in the soil.
Is that don soap and water and what they'd hate
that stuff. So they come up out of the soil
so you can you know, detect, see what's in there
and then go as far as the treatment goes for
you know, and for army worm, is it pretty bad?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I mean I sounded three or four of them in
fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, that's not that's not bad. You know what's in
our area we don't we have our own army worms.
There's you know, there's the army worms that you all
see and more from the south, and sometimes we'll get
those that blow up like and we were kind of
expecting it with the with the hurricanes. Sometimes they blow
up through the fronts and they come and we in
about two years ago, I think it was Ohio got
(18:34):
hit really hard with those from the south, and it
was kind of unusual. You see him every now and then,
but not like we had any They just caught everybody
off guarden, Like within a three day period, they had
destroyed backyards, front yards wherever they landed. But we're talking
tons of them, I mean they were they were just
everywhere and and again, controls are tough, uh, as far
(18:57):
as you know, do that, but when you only find
two or three or four here and there, typically not
an issue as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, so now a little more tricky different yard hammerhead worms. Yeah, species, yep,
that's an extension nothing. What's the treatment? You have any idea?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
There aren't any And I think I've read citric acid
sometimes works on them. But here's the problem. How do
you know where they are? You know, you can dig
through and find two or three or four. Uh, And
of course what the best thing they're saying anytime you
find those hammerheads and by the way, they really can
be very invasive, and they are moving and we're starting
(19:45):
to see a few in our area as well. But again,
no true controls. Besides, when you find them, smash them,
take care of them physically. And like I said, I
had read earlier because we've had a few of them
crop up here there someone have been using something like
a citric acid and something else that they were uh
pouring in the area and as seem to do a
(20:07):
job on the ones that were there. But again, you
don't want to treat the whole area because you don't
want to take care of the other earthworms that they're
there too. So right now, as far as I know,
there aren't any controls besides physically taking care of what
you find. So unfortunately they're right and from what I
know too, nothing there is. But just whenever you find them,
(20:30):
smash them. Try to do that. But that's that's about
all you can do. Appreciate the call. Take a quick break,
Jim from Westchester. You're coming up next. Eight hundred eight
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Speaker 1 (23:07):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking yardening to Westchester we go. Jim,
Good morning, How are you this morning?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Not too bad?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Any?
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I got a basic question from grass server seeding. I
miss missed the September A lot of things going on
cutting overseas. Have I missed the window for grass server seeding?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, here's the kicker. You know, obviously, yes September,
middle of August through the end of September optimum time,
first couple of weeks of October typically we're still there.
For the turf type tall fescues perennial rise, they come
up fairly quickly. So now all of a sudden we're
past those first two weeks incept in October and the
window is really closing quickly. And now we've got started
(23:56):
to get some nighttime tempts dropping down that you know
thinks you're going to start to change a bit. So
what do you do at this stage? Personally this week
and Bear Areas went ahead and raked out the debris
and did some seeding. I'm gonna take a chance. You're
really rolling the dice at this stage. Windows closing quickly.
You know, if it was a major overseed, you know,
(24:18):
you may even want to hold off a little bit
and do it as a dormant seed, just so you
don't take a chance. But you are rolling the dice
at this stage. Yep, totally in Mother Nature's hands from
this point out. Now, feeding wise, you're still good to go.
And as a matter of fact, if you got it
down this weekend. You you know, in another five to
six weeks you could put down the second feeding would
put you around, you know, closer to Thanksgiving. But we've
(24:39):
done it that late in the season, so you got
those options. Yet as far as feeding, core air rating,
you're still good. Spot treating for weaves is this is
an excellent month to do that. So that's all good.
But grass seating itself, boy, it is a roll of
the dice from this point forward.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
That's what I thought. Didn't want to waste my time.
It's so young. I'm going to core air rate seed
the lawn. Also springtime, can I overseed? Or did I
dismiss the whole window and wait till next fall?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh no? The second bet that obviously fall the best time.
Second best time is dormant seeding, and that would be
anytime where we get far enough into the fall season
and it's not going to germinate and grow. So once
we get in past usually past Thanksgiving, you're good to go.
Or I like to do it mid to late February.
And the reason I do that mid to late February
still dormant, the soil's freezing and thawing, and when it
(25:35):
does that, it works at grass seed right into the
soil for you, and typically it's you know, you got its.
Timing wise is great. It settles in, you got it
ready to go. As soon as the weather breaks soil
temperatures warm, that grass seed is there and ready to go. Otherwise,
if you wait, sometimes it can be wet in the springtime.
You don't know what the temperature going to be, like
blah blah blah. So that would be the second best time,
(25:58):
third best time, or actually the one of the worst
times is actually spring seating. But that's when most people
do it, but you know and get away with it.
But yeah, so fall or dormant seeding anytime December or
like I said, I like mid to late February with
the freezing and thowng going on at that time.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Okay for doe to February. Then when how long can
I wait before I put any weed prevention down?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Like yeah, the pre emergent Well, that's where we get into.
There's a there is a product made by Scott's it's
their Step one for newly seeded lawns. It's a pre
emerged herbicide that will allow grass seed to germinate and grow.
But it goes after the other weed seeds, including crab grass,
and I think it lasts about forty five to sixty days,
(26:47):
so it gives you enough time for that grass seed
to get germinated growing, and then you can come back
after that and you want to try to mow the grass,
you know, the new grass, maybe once or twice, then
come back and put that pre emergent down the last
you longer into the summer season. But otherwise you can't
use any of the other ones. On top of that,
you'd have to wait until it's up growing mode and
(27:08):
then you've got you come back over to that. But
you can use it. And I think the one with
Scott's has a starter fertilizer in it as well, so
you give it the feeding and the pre emerged herbyside
and you can do that. Heck, I would wait to
do that till late March early April, but you could
do it at that point. That carries you into middle
of May.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Okay, because I generally use your three step program m HM,
and you just I couldn't get it this year. So
that answers my questions on edit. That's awesome, all.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Right, good, thank you so much. You're welcome, good talking
with you. You know, I want to back up for a second.
We were talking about those hammerhead worms, and somebody brought
up about three or four weeks ago about the fact
they had gone to a class and the naturalis was
talking about the earthworms in our area and that there
are no native earthworms and most of North North America
(27:56):
because of the glaciers. The way they moved through and
actually moved took most of them out. And most of
the earth worms that we have in most of the
central to northern part of the United States were brought
here from Europe when the Europeans came over and the
boats or whatever they may be, and that's where a
lot of the worms came from. Some of the native
worms still in the Southern States starting to work their
(28:18):
way back up to the north, but most of them
are non natives. But then again, look how long they've
been here, blah blah blah, But they're actually non natives.
It's an interesting story about that. But over the years,
with different types of fishing worms, with this hammerheadworm, jumping worms,
non natives again, and all of a sudden start to
(28:39):
show up where folks have used them for whatever reason.
Or we're in something, and they are very aggressive. They
spread quickly. I have seen the jumping worm. As a
matter of fact, I dug a couple out renovating an
area in our backyard and I didn't realize what it was.
But when I got this thing out, it was like
a snake. And you know, they're not all that big,
(29:00):
they're still four five six inches long, like a nightcrawler,
but just jump an all over the place. I mean,
just really crazy stuff. And again, when you find those,
there's no real control because if you control those, you
control all the earth worms and they're which you don't
want to do. So every time you find one, you
just try to destroy it. The thing about those hammerhead worms,
(29:23):
and you'll recognize them because they look like a hammerhead
shark on the top. They've got that flat hammer head
on the top. They're quick debris eaters. They really change
the forest floor. Again, not a good thing. And they
are toxic, so you've got to be careful when you
if you see them, how you handle them? Now you'd
have to I think you'd have to have an open
wound or whatever. But they do suggest that you use
(29:44):
gloves or something, and if you just chop them up
in a couple pieces. They can regenerate, so you've got
to be careful there. Most of the time, they suggest
smashing them, putting them in a plastic bag with a
little bit of salt something like that, and destroying them
that way, or cooking them inside that bag. If the
pets got a hold of them. That it is toxic.
(30:05):
It can cause you to get sick, so be cautious
with those as well. But it's an interesting story about
our earthworms and most central to northern United States not
actually being native earthworms because of the way the glaciers
moved through and took them to the south, but we
are seeing more and more of them coming back up
in the southern area. Anyway, someone said, can you get
(30:25):
somebody on to talk about that, and we have a
couple of times. One of our issue extension agents very
good at that, and he had talked about that many
years ago. So we're getting back on here in another
month or so and we'll talk about the story about
those native earthworms and non native earthworms. We'll talk about
the jumpers and the hammerheads too, and the issues that
they're causing. And a lot of times these earthworms, you
(30:46):
know that folks buy different types of worms for fishing,
and when they're done, they just talk them out in
the woods. And that's how a lot of times these
unwanted varieties wind up showing up in different places. So
very interesting, but again no real control for these. But
if you do find either one of those, you do
want to destroy them. That's your best defense at this stage.
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A little shout out to my uncle listening this morning
with my cousin in the North Carolina. Danny, you're a
home area there when you were with the Wolfman.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Jack Yep of Eastern North Carolina.
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Of North Carolina, listen to our show this morning. Setting
out on the dock of the bay. It's got a
nice little lake and they said out, yeah, in the morning,
to have a little coffee and watch the fish jumping out.
So listening to our show and we appreciate that very much.
All right, quick break, we come back. Phone lines are
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the drought that we were going through. But guess what,
since then we had any rain, not much, if any
at all. So yeah, we'll find out where we are
at this. Are we getting back into that drought situation.
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson talking
yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Moving right on through the month of October. Can you
believe that, Well, we got two weeks and we get
to Halloween. By the way, I do want to remind
you if if you still do the live pumpkins and
the carving and all that stuff, you know, don't carve
them too early unless you really want them to look
(34:39):
really gnarly and nasty by the time you get the Halloween. Uh,
you know, take your time and carve him a few
days ahead. Of time, but I can help you out
a little bit as far as keeping them preserved a
little bit longer. You know, sometimes they'll they start to
shrivel obviously, as soon as you puncture the skin. And
what happens is you let all the moisture out of
the inside of the pumpkin. So you know, once you
(35:01):
puncture that skin, it starts to shrivel, just like if
you bruise it. Puncture it, like when you're shipping it
or whatever, and then all of a sudden it starts
to shrivel in that area. That's the reason why. As
a matter of fact, I went through a and I
won't mention the name of the store, but it's not
a grocery store. But they had a couple pallets of
pumpkins in right when you walked in the front of
(35:21):
the store inside, and they've been there for about three weeks.
Hadn't sold too many of them, I don't think, And
I went in there the other day and they had
moved those out, and obviously a couple of them inside
the middle of the pumpkin bin had decayed and it
was all over the floor. And of course it's that
nice smell too. But I just kind of shook my
(35:43):
head and said, okay, but anyway, that's what happens. So
when you carve your pumpkin, it starts to shrivel from
that point forward. And we've seen all kinds of things
out there where they've clean them with bleach, they seal
them with vas a lean, all that kind of stuff.
The best two things I've seen happen with those to
keep moisture. Sometimes you can put them in a tuble water.
Sometimes it helps to rehydrate them a little bit. But
(36:05):
they start to also mold. And you hear me talking
about and of course Gary Sullivan talking about Wet and
Forget for cleaning your deck or whatever getting rid of
the mold analogy, and it kind of eats that off
of there for you, well, believe it or not. They
did some research and it's not labeled for this, but
Wet and Forget did their research on this, and they
sprayed pumpkins, the inside of pumpkins with Wet and Forget
(36:28):
once or twice, and it actually kept them from turning
black and they stayed hydrated a little bit longer by
spraying with the Wet and Forget. And so you know,
if you want to make it. Try to get it
to the last a little bit longer. Give them a
couple of shots of wet and forget when you're done carving,
and that may help you to make them last a
little bit longer. We used to always do it the
(36:49):
night before Halloween, so they were nice and fresh the
next day, because depending on the weather, whether state can
really start to shrivel and look pretty gnarly a few
days after you're done carving. Also, I never even thought
about this, but I saw an article I forget where
I got this, that was one of the Soil and
Water Conservation districts or something to mention that the USDA
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says there's about a billion and that's right, a billion
pounds of pumpkins sent to the landfills every fall. And
they said that's about eighty percent of the number of
pumpkins that are purchased are sent to the landfill. You know,
you're done with it, you carved at whatever you throw
in the trash goes to the landfill. And you say, well,
what's wrong with that? Because it's a biodegradable's all natural,
(37:34):
it breaks down. It's true, but the landfills really have
they don't have the like the necessary nutrients and oxygen
that's needed to decompose pumpkins especially, and so it can
take actually a decade for some of these pumpkins to
break down, and during that time they emit methane gas
in the process. All right, so what do you do
(37:57):
rather than send them to the landfill? And now, if
you can't do anything with it, that's fine, yeah, you said,
But if we can kind of cut that back a
little bit, check if you if you haven't sprayed it
with anything, you haven't treated it with anything. Check with
your local farmer or a neighbor who has livestock. A
lot of times, especially pigs and all they love eating pumpkins.
You can drop those and don't just take them and
(38:18):
drop them off. Ask first.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
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Speaker 1 (38:21):
But we used to have, you know, a lot of
hog growers in our area that would check with you know,
at the end of at Halloween when you go do
with the pumpkins afterwards, and would come and pick them
up and take them and feed their hogs with them.
So find out that's a possibility, throw it in your
own compost pile, cut it up in pieces, throw it
in your own compost pile that does have the source
of oxygen and the nutrients necessary to decompose your pumpkin,
(38:45):
so you can get them to break down faster and
much quicker, and all in your own compost pile. So
use that, or just you know, if you just set
them down somewhere on the edge of the woods or whatever,
open up the top and let wildlife, mother nature, lother
the's lot like to go in and eat the meat
out of the inside of that well now on a
chew through it maybe whatever. And if there's any seeds
(39:07):
left in it, of course they'll take care of those
as well. Do that and let them feed on it,
and it just turns into mush. Doesn't take too long
sitting there. It seems like next thing you know, it's
all gone. Just kind of turns into the mush. Do
it that way as well. So those are ways that
you can try to get rid of those without sending
them back to the landfill. And I know it sounds
kind of weird, but you know, I never even thought
(39:28):
about it, but it's the way it's set up, that's true.
And I didn't know it took that long for him
to break down in the landfill. When they don't have
the necessary nutrients and an oxygen to break down like
your compost pile would have. And again you have better
success when you cut them up. It'll break down a
lot faster for you, So keep that in mind as well.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five is
(39:49):
our number. Also talking about throwing things away, you know
right now leaves are starting to fall in our area.
They have been for a while. We've been experiencing that
since we went through the drought back in September, but
starting to now get into the fall season. And the
question came up the other day is you know, Ron,
you were always pushing about mowing those leaves back into
the turf. Well, what about this fall where a lot
(40:11):
of the turfs in our area went dormant. We got
the rainfall that came back, but many of them are
not as full as they normally would be in there
thinner and we're gonna do some seating, or we already
did some seating. Got some new grass coming up. Now
do I mow those leaves back into the turf? No, no,
(40:32):
you don't, And again depends on how much new grass
you have coming up. But for the most part, mowing
leaves back into the turf is for mature turf. And
if you're doing any seating, overseating, bringing up new grass,
whatever it may be, you don't want to mow those
leaves back into the turf. You want to let that
new grass come up, get established, and then next year
(40:54):
we'll look at doing it back in the fall. But
for right now, if you're dealing with some bare areas
that you've seated, new grass coming up, or you're trying
to get new grass to come up yet this fall,
do not use the leaves in that particular area of
the turf. Not a good thing. Put them in the
compost pile, use them for mulching, put them around the
base of the trees, use them in your yard for
(41:16):
other areas, composting, whatever may be, soil amendments. You know,
there's so many great things you can use leaves for
finely ground leaves, But don't put those back into an immature,
brand new, newly established or getting established turf. Nope, you
don't want to do that. Before we take a break,
and Ron Roth's coming up the top of the hour,
(41:36):
Dick from Dayton.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Good morning, good morning, how are you run?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm great in yourself?
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Oh you tell Danny. Everything worked out. They worked out
a plan for her to come over here to the
Oak Creek. It's a ritchy area where we live. They're
gonna put her in bestening. She's fling fine. Yeah, yeah,
I've been seeing her and all my friends geting to
see her. But well, you know, I didn't mope this week.
(42:03):
I played so much music this week and everybody was
praying for it. But I had a good time this week.
I've really I missed one practice this week, and Bob called,
so I must be missed by these places.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, Well you are. You're always missed when you're
not there. Well, we're glad to hear that she's doing better.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
Yeah, oh, I got a prediction.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Okay, here comes.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Ben Bulls yep twenty seven overtime to Brown's twenty four.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Twenty seven, twenty four Bengals over the Brownies.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I wrote it down.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
We've got it written down. We're making our bets right now,
saying Dick said twenty seven, twenty four.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
They look pretty good the other night. Look at Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
You look pretty good, didn't It didn't look too bad?
Are you a little bit more encouraged?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I am all right.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
Have a good week, all.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Right, Dick, good talking to you. Glad to hear that
everything's doing well. All right, take care. Dick from Dayton.
Always pleasure're talking with Dick. He is very famous in
the Dayton area and even miles on all of Ohio.
If you have a radio station, everybody knows Dick from Dayton.
Always pleasure hearing from.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I believe you even called another sports network too.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
There.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Did you get on with Rush Limball one time? I
think talked to Rush a little bit too. Yeah, he's
talked to some of the big slibs. All Right, we're
gonna take a quick break. We come back. I asked
Ron Roethlis if he would join us this morning. He's
out of town. He's at a conference up in Holmes County, Ohio,
enjoying the Amish country. H and so of course he
I love it up there too. But well, he has
(43:36):
agreed to talk to us this morning. Find out what's
going on weather pattern, because you know, after Helena came through,
we got all that rainfall. Guess what, I haven't really
had anything since. Find out what's going on, what's he's
seeing out there, and a whole lot more here in
the Garden with Ron Wilson. How is your garden growing?
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three
Talk you're listening to. In the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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