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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard board. You talking
about yard egg this month of October. Let's kick it
off with the cup of Joe. Uh. You know Joe,
don't you know? No, you know Joe, Joe Strecker. He's
our executive producer. He takes care of our website, our
Facebook page. Of course, the website is Ron Wilson Online
dot com. Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson, which,
by the way, Ron roethis is not on the Facebook
(00:59):
page today.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Why not, Well, I'm guessing that he's not because he's
in Australia.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh he'd better still be. He's called the world Wide Web.
He's in Australia. Worldwide.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
He's touring Australia and New Zealand. Nineteen day tour. Wow,
they send me pictures Thursday. I think it was.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's pretty cool. I guess that's one of the places
I always wanted to go. I just don't know if
I could handle the by the way, good morning, remember me.
I don't know that I could handle the flight over. Yeah,
you give me a plane more than about four hours
or so, and I guess it all depends on the
leg room.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, I'm starting to get a little antsy, so I
guess you'd have to do it. No, you fly like
to la and then the Hawaii and then to Japan,
and then should you get different legs. I'll take your
word for it, but yeah, I don't know if you
want to break it up. I guess you could do that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Wow. But yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Eighteen hours. Yeah, so he's over there for three days.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Pretty cool? Pretty cool. So did you miss me? But
you didn't you miss what? You didn't miss me? Nice
to week You're here, all right? So I was a trip.
It was great, nice and relaxing. That was the weather
in Florida. Beautiful. I think it only rained, well, it
rained on rain every day. It kind of rained every day.
(02:17):
But where we were in a Kissimi, which is just
outside of Orlando, I mean, you could see the clouds coming,
but you know, it just kind of like at my house,
they just kind of die, right, Oh, Joe's there, Let's
just go around the other side. I think I think
Tuesday evening we had rain and there was a little
(02:38):
bit of rain maybe Thursday, but that was pretty much
it for our for where we were at. So what
did you do for a whole week? Nothing? Absolutely nothing?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
N O T H I N G.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean even though we were in Orlando, we didn't
go to Disney, we didn't go to Epcot, wouldn't do
any of those things. We were just going to enjoy
doing nothing. We didn't go to Gator World. We did
not thing. I'm my gosh, you got to go to
Gator World. No, No, we at the Gators we used
to be. I mean the place we were at, everything
was was contained on the on the property. We didn't
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need to leave.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's nice. You should have had a grocery store in
every had a grocery.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Store on the property, restaurants on the property, entertainment on
the property. You know, a water park on the property.
Which right did you go on? Huh? Water park?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I went down one slide, yeah, and I thought I
was going to drown seriously, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'm not.
You know, the the fifteen year old Joe would have
went down the water slide million times screaming, and the
fifty year old Joe was like, oh gosh, this is terrible.
Let me go back to the lazy River. So I
went around raped. I think I spent the first day
(03:52):
we went to the water park. I think I spent
two and a half hours on the Lazy River, just
going around in circles. I'm just floating ontu every time
I passed that, every time I passed bye, see me.
Did they have a bar on that one too? Yeah, yeah,
there was a bar there. You couldn't we weren't allowed
(04:12):
to take anything on the river in case you spilled it,
But there was a bar there. Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You don't think anybody else would do anything else in
that Lazy River do I you know what?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But you can't spell your drinking there. Don't spell your
drinking there. So yeah, it was. It was fun then
that The place was great. Good for you, you know.
The hospitality was awesome. I definitely recommend it, you know,
for Yeah, it was. It was great. It was like
relaxing week and I turned my phone off as much
as I possibly could.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, because I sent you a test text. You sent
me a text the first weekend, Yeah, I just to see.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm sorry I didn't answer you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
No, I'm glad you did it because I laughed and said,
all right, good for him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, I I think I checked my my messages maybe
like like once in the morning and once after we
got finished at the pool, you know, just to uh,
you know, just because I didn't want to come back
to work with uh, you know, three thousand messages either.
So you know, I kind of cleared cleared out email
(05:19):
and stuff, and but I didn't answer anything good. So, yeah,
it was great. Do you enjoy the fauna? Sure? Yeah,
the fauna was great. Oh, I need to tell you
about these bugs we got attacked. It wasn't like it
was like Thursday. We got hit by love bugs. Love bugs, Yeah,
(05:44):
that's what they were. They called love bugs. It's a
it's a this bug and it's about people can't see,
but it's maybe about an inch long, and it flies
and it's got a red head and the mail is
actually attached to the female. That's why it's called a
love bug. Or it's called a honeymoon bug. Okay, because
(06:07):
they're mating in the air and they fly in man
and they fly and and those things bite the heck
guy really wait goodness? Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe Joe Bogsman
will know about it here in a couple of hours.
But but yeah, I mean they're like a beetle. They
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they kind of look like they kind of look like
a lightning bug with another bug attached to it. But
with they land on you, the female will bite you.
I mean, the male's just kind of a long for
a ride, which is kind of you know, standard operating
procedure for I guess every species. But but yeah, I
mean it was Thursday Thursday they were bad, but the
(06:54):
rest of the time it was okay. Yeah, they land
on you, they bite you, give you a little little pinch. Wow.
Love bugs. So that's what that's. I mean. I had
to look them up because I didn't know what it was.
So I took a picture of it, and thanks to
technology today, I put the picture through AI and or
(07:16):
not AI, but through a Google what's it called picture
recognition or picture finder and bloom amerricane love bugs or
honeymoon bugs. Great. So see see, so you didn't and
to mild you while you were doing, I stumped Ron
Wilson today. I have never heard of that. Yes, I
need to go to Florida. Put that on the calendar
(07:39):
after twenty five years. For twenty five years, I how
you stumped me meant more than that? Yeah, it was great? Good?
So uh website.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It happens to be Ron Wilson online dot com. In
the Facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson before
we hit that any guests today build a bore from
uh Ron ronthou was calling from Australia? Is not calling
from Australia, slacker? What can I say? But Bill de
boor from what do You Wear House? We've had hit
on recently talking about native plants and he's going to
talk about native fall blooming plants, perfect for the late bloomers,
(08:13):
for the pollinators. So he'll give us a good list.
He gave us a good list before of nice woody
tree shrubs and Woody's woodies tree and shrub and now
he's going to do flowering plants.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Bill, Bill knows his stuff, he knows his natives and
his native species and all that. So yeah, it's wood
you Wear House? So that's our only guests you, Gary
and Buggy Joe and Danny in between.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So the Facebook pages rocking and rolling. The chat room
is up and running. There's a couple of of a
posted this week from Buggy Joe about the box cream moth.
What's going on with that? And Thomas de Haas has
something about the patients chading patients. Yes, yeah, uh, rita
(09:00):
recipe of the week looks really good, really good. It's
a look good. Uh. It's a Mexican dish, a raz
con polio, which if you go to a Mexican restaurant
would be you can get those. But it's just chicken.
It's chicken chicken. Yes, but it's really really, really really
(09:24):
really good. I could do without the olives because I'm
not a big olive guy. But yeah, I just take
the olives out of mind and.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Just take those out. So tastes like dirty socks.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Rita's Recipe of the Rather you do anyway? Yeah? Uh? So,
aras con polo is a Rita's recipe of the week,
and the uh, the plane of the week is the
burr oak. Why'd you pick that because that's what you
sent me.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh, it's my favorite tree of all trees, right next
to the gink go and the Japanese maple. But that's
one of my favorite trees.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Casciras macro carpa close us corpus quercus quercus quacus macrocarpa.
So yeah, burroaks, Yes, what's so awesome about the burroke'
that's it is a stately shade tree, huge, give it
(10:24):
plenty of time to grow, big leaves, big acorns, mossy
mossy oak is called sometimes but really nice.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's just of all the oak trees, that just to
me is the ultimate of all oaks.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Are those the same oaks that they have down in
normal live oaks? They're the same family.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yes, I still remember you came when you came back
from down there. You're all impressed with it. Those are
awesome pictures of this. If I sat on one of
the branches, yeah, because it came right out. They came
right on the ground, right above the ground. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah. So yeah, I'm rested and relaxed, and I'm back
from from Vaca. So the the other cool part about
the place that we went is, uh, the sports party
went to had Margarita's on tap mm hmm. And they
were really really strong and yummy, tasty, very tasty and
(11:26):
maybe you had one or two excellent, Yes, God for you.
So if there's any restaurant tours out there that are listening,
and in addition to beer on tap, you should try Margarita's.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
On the rocks. Frozen on the rocks even better. So
no salt, well, they.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Had some kind of like Himalayan volcanic salt, that's what
they called it. It could have just been regular salt
with of h black coloring, but it's sounding cool on
the menu. It would be different, so so cool. All right.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You like Dewey's Pizza, Yeah, Dewey's is really good. You
like Skyline? Yeah, shee with the guy coming out? Yeah,
I saw that. I saw that story.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh I thought you'd like that because I like And
that's not the spaghetti pizza. No, no, no, that's that's
the Skyline dip Pizzah. Yeah, it's October the eighth. There
we go, every last, every last cool. All right, are
you gonna head out? Open the phone lines, load them up,
(12:39):
and if you haven't got a question answered the last
couple of weeks, this is the one hop on I
wanted to take you to get the back in the groove.
What for being gone for a week doing absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Nothing, probably like two or three days because because my
my sleep schedule was so stuff. Yeah, it took me
to like Wednesday before I finally got back to normal.
That's good that it was really good.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Joe Schreker, Executive producer. If you like what you see
on our website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page,
in the garden with Ron Wilson, he had everything to
do with it. If you something there you don't like,
any question not sure about, don't blame Joe.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Blame doctor Z who decided to come the town and
not see a lot of us.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's right, it was, it was. It was I think
wedding focused.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, right, so you still have time for your buddies.
I did volunteer rest to sing at the wedding. Well
you can sing at the wedding. What you're an excellent singer?
Sure about just kind of follow it behind you. Okay,
we'll do Okay, we'll do that. Maybe we'll do a
joint toast for him. Okay, but first of all, you
(13:50):
know what, Joe, what we have to get invited. That's
true as well, wedding.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I've never done that before. Crash we can be the crashers.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'll be Vin Spawn good point, good point. Yeah, thanks
a lot, I'll be Owen Wilson.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah. See here we go. All right, I'm always thinking
I'm in all right.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Uh eight hundred eight two three eight two five Did
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Speaker 2 (14:19):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
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Speaker 1 (17:10):
Talking yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. During the break there, I could hear my
I could feel my cell phone buzzing over here to
my left, and I picked it up and looked, and
it's Ron Roethlis, the Yarbor doctor who was in Australia.
I think he's in Sydney.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And it's like eight what is it eight whatever, they're
eight thirty or whatever, twenty twenty five anyway in the evening,
and he is in his room listening to the show
you talk about technology, Dan. You know first of all
that we're you know, talking to him in Sydney, Australia
through text, and its immediate. It's right there, back forth, back.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Forth, yeah, within a few seconds. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And then he's sitting in his hotel room listening to
the show. I mean, that's that's just mind boggling that.
But that's today, right, that's today world.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, it's eight twenty six over there, right.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now, yeah, so that kind of crazy stuff. One thing
he did mention and obviously he's on a I think
it's a three week tour that he's out there, but
obviously they're looking at he's looking at trees and things
like that. And he said, what's impressed him so far
the most about their urban trees, plantings and all is
that most all of the urban trees look great. And
(18:24):
he said they do so much extra care for all
of their trees. And he said, as he looks around,
he sees root flares everywhere. That's like priorities showed me
the flare and he said, it's it's just it's wonderful
to see. And he said there are obviously a few
ailing trees here and there for whatever reason it may be.
But he said that what they do is spectacular. And
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so he is totally impressed with what they do. And
I think it's a great point. You know, when we
talk about how you know, if you want the biggest
influence you can on this mother earth. You know, recycling
and all the things we do, that's great, that all helps,
but planting a tree or two or three every year,
planning them properly, right tree, right location, planning them properly
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and taking care of them to grow properly as well.
Not just planting trees, but growing trees is so dog
gone important and some countries, some communities get it more
than others. And he kind of said something about how
do we get this across everybody out there as far
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as how important it is for planting procedures, right tree,
right place, planting procedures and then doing the right things
to get them to grow and do what they need
to do. And it's a great, great point. So you know,
again I can't stress it enough. You know, it's fall
time to get out and plant a tree or two
or three, great time to do it. Plant the right
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tree in a right spot, make sure you plant it properly,
show me the root flayer, and then do everything you
can as that tree continues to grow, to make it
grow and grow and grow and be a healthy tree.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two fivey five. Taking
your calls here in the garden, Ron.
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Speaker 1 (21:56):
Talking yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your personal
yard boy. We are talking yarding. I forgot to mention
hope she doesn't shoot me. Rita Hikenfel will be joining
us at the top of the hour. Uh, talking well
out to the to her garden and we'll talk about
her recipe as well, which you can find on our
rest our website at Ron Wilson online dot com. You know,
(22:18):
there's so much going on right now in the yard
and garden, it's crazy. Now we're going through a little
bit of a drought again. Got that good rainfall came
through a couple of days, kind of helped out a bit,
replenished a few lakes and ponds, and then it warmed
right back up again. And now we haven't had any rainfall,
so we're back into that situation again. Looking at the
drought map for Ohio, Uh, pretty much all around moderately
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moderate drought, slight drought, some areas even worse. So we
need the rainfall, so keep up your watering please. You know,
falls an excellent time for planting. Uh, it is an
excellent time for planning, and we still have plenty of time.
You got all of October and as long as the
warm weather sticks with us, you got November and sometimes
all the way into December.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So we still have.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Plenty of time different planting, but getting out there and planting,
and you know, I anticipate as the temperature start to
cool down, and we're seeing a definite cool down next
week and some showers moving through, and you know, once
just starts to cool down, daytime temps and nighttime temps,
days are getting shorter, soil us and dry out as quickly.
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So when you water, you know, it sticks around, it
doesn't just go away in a hurry. So you know,
keep planting. You may have to pre water a little bit,
grassy lawns, things like that. A lot of questions right now,
you know, is am I too late for cool season seeding?
You know, we try to get that done mid August
through the end of September. Well we're getting late, but
(23:47):
I still would recommend you do it. If you've been
waiting and waiting waiting and you can do it, I'd
get on it. And the only one I wouldn't be
trying to see this late in the season would be
the blue grasses. They take a long time to germinate.
It may take two or three weeks before you see
him start to come up, and you don't know what's
going to happen at that point. So those I would
(24:07):
probably hold off. But the fescues, the rise not an issue,
and I would get on that right away. So if
you've got those bare areas that you haven't done any seating.
As matter of fact, talking with a gentleman this week
who went through the process of killing everything out, I
mean he took the I'm not.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Sure what he used it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It was fertilum's kills all whatever, but he killed everything
out moded down low. We did find out that he
had a fairly thick thatch below. Now, if it's less
than a half an inch, you're you're okay, you can
slice seed down through that. If it's thicker than that,
you might want to get some of that out of there.
But that does help to keep moisture once you get
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it good and wet. If it's thinner, all right, less
than half an inch, kind of access a little bit
of multi for you for your new seed. But nevertheless,
doing that all this week and he's going to get
on this weekend to finish up, so he'll get that
slice seeded. You'll get it the starter fertile in there,
put the water to it, and he's gonna have to
keep it just evenly moist not wet. We don't want
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it puddled water wet. We just want good even moisture.
And you you know, you may have to do that
a little sprinkling every day just to keep that even moisture.
And I think you'll be surprised how quickly the tall fescues,
turf type tall fescues, or if you're using rise, how
quickly they do come up. Seven ten days, you're up
and start to see green. And by the end of
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October you're gonna be looking at a pretty green lawn
at that point. By the way, if you are using
a slice or slit ceedar when you are seeding your
your lawn, and remember that seed soil contact, your seed
touching the soil is so important. Got to do that
or you're not gonna, you know, get that seed to germinate.
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Very very important.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And so that's why we use a slice or slit
ceedar to get it down into the ground, just barely
into the top of the surface. But uh, if you
are doing that, remember crisscross your patterns, So do half
your rate. If it's eight pounds per thousand square feet,
do four pounds per thousand square feet north and south.
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Then do four thousand per square feet east and west.
So you crisscross and you don't have like corn rows.
You'll actually see a checkerboard pattern starting to come up
with your grass seat. That's the best way to do that.
Start a fertilizer and then go from there and again
keep good even moisture to it. And as like I
was saying earlier, the days get are getting shorter. It's
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gonna get cooler next week. Nighttime temperatures are dropping nicely.
You know it won't dry out quite as quickly. So
you know again I'm on it. I'm saying go ahead
and go for it this week. If you're still looking
to do some last minute seating to get it up
and growing yet this fall and we're talking cool season
grasses zones southern, five, sixes, sevens eights, I'd get on it.
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I think you still got plenty time to do that.
Otherwise we start to hold off and we will look
at dormant seating, which means you put it down and
you know it's going to be too cold, too late
in the season, not going to come up. The seed
stays there, wait till springing goes. And if you're going
to do that, might I suggest that you wait until
mid to late February. Freezing and thawing helps to work
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the seeds into the ground. It's a little closer to
germination time. You'll probably have a lot less seed loss
by doing it later in you know, closer to the
spring season. Fall seeding the best time, dormant seeding the
second best time, spring seating the third best time. So
you know, now's a good time to do it. And
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again start a fertilizer. And if you haven't put regular
lawn food down yet on those cool season turfs, still
got time to do that for the first feeding, get
it down, give yourself about six weeks, and you can
come back and put the second feeding down at that
point and you'll probably be using the same fertilizer I
like in the all using fur looms. Long food plus
(28:04):
iron does a great job for both feedings. All right
now and again in about six weeks seven weeks, you
can put it down for a second second application, so
I still get on it and tree planting the same way.
I still get on that as well. To Cincinnati we go, DJ, good.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Morning, Good morning run.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I'm trying something new this year.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Tried to tried to grow some late sunflowers just to
put them out in the fall around Halloween, see if
we can get some pretty color extending into the late fall.
So I put them out and they're all about i'd say,
about eighteen inches tall now and just getting ready to
put them in the ground. And I noticed that I've
got some aphids on the.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
On the stems.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
You know that fy furry stem.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And you know, I know that.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
An easy way to get rid of aphids is just
to blast it with water. But they're not stable enough
or firm enough to get them with water and knock
it off. So I'm wondering if there's something I could
mix up to put on it, or use a seven
or something. I wasn't sure what to do.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, insecticidal soap does a great job. That'll that'll knock
those off of there for you, you know, by putting
it on, and the soap does a great job. The
soap it interferes with it kind of just helps to
dry them up once it interferes with their breathing, So
even though they're a sucking insect, it does work on
aphans as well, and it's very safe, good for the
(29:31):
you know, better for the environment, pollinators in the whole
nine yards. But insecticidal soap should take care of it.
If you have seven, you can use that. If you
have eight E I G.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
H T.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You can use that those those both will also work.
But insecticidal soaps do a nice job for you, and
so should take care of it. I like your idea
of doing that later in the season. If we stay
like we have in the last couple three years for
the fall, you shouldn't have any problem getting those in flour.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
These are little little ones, you know, They're not the
big tall or anything.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, so they flower quicker.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Yeah, And as long as you can keep the deer away,
you know, then you you know which is which is
half the battle?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Is there a Is there a particular brand of insecticidal
soap that you like her? No? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Now, everybody has their own. I mean, Safer has theirs,
Bonny has theirs, fertilom has there, so they're they're all
out there. They're they're basically the same. But I like
using the commercially made and sexticidal soap versus doing it yourself.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Okay, good, Well, I'm going to be over at a
place tomorrow, you know of True Garden Center. Tomorrow I'll
pick something up. And you know, I can't tell you
how much we do. Appreciate everything you all do.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Hey, d you appreciate that. And I get let me
know when they start the flower, let me know all
about them.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Okay, Well, you know, like I said, at about eighteen inches,
I already got I already got buds that one right
in the middle.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Yeah, put it try you know, if anybody wants to
try it next, you know, right around September first, go
ahead and throw them and they can throw them in
a little pot, you know, some nice nice starter seeded
to start a soil and you never know.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Excellent. I appreciated DJ. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Take care, sir, bye before we take a break. Dick
from Dayton, good.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Morning, Hey, good morning, run well Danny, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Your reds didn't pull it off, but at least they
made it. Hey, hey, hey, at least they made it
into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Right, Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That's a good time.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
My cousin called me from Cleveland. I have to say,
the Guardians had a good year, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And that team came out of nowhere nowhere.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean they were way.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Down and they came out of nowhere and.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Games out yep, and they just they stunned the world.
And I just was, so this seed is a heartbreaker,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
But but but well, good for both teams to make
it into the playoffs. I look at it that way.
At least you got that far.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Yeah, But I don't know about the Browns and the Bengals.
It doesn't look good, does it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I think we've got a couple of Lord, yeah, that's
not gonna be a good year for EE to want them.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't think.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
No, No, they got to get that quarterback, getting a quarterback,
and oh, I couldn't believe they just got beats so bad.
But scot Joe Burrow, it's kind of it's kind of
rough for him, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, But Dick, how can how can I losing a
quarterback affect your defense and all the rest of the
players too.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's it's it's crazy, but you know, we'll Yeah, there's
always next year.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I guess next year.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Hey, this year isn't over yet. You never know what's
going to happen. And then you got the box. They're
doing great.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Yeah, but I think maybe maybe they'll come out of this,
you know. But the Browns play early tomorrow. They yeah,
they play early tomorrow. And yeah, you know, I'm going
to go Bundy. Somebody called me. It's called Moraine Jam.
I'm going down there down by the uh oh, it
was in West Calton there, you know that area, uh huh.
(33:10):
And it's pretty good down there. They got up, they
break pies and cake and it's just really nice, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Good for you, good for you. Well, we got to
take a break, Dick.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Always a pleasure, always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
All right. I have a great weekend. Talk to you
next week. Dick from Dayton, quick breakdown from Columbus. You're
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Speaker 1 (35:28):
Welcome back. You're in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five before we talk to Don here. You know,
if you look out right now, we're starting to finally
see a little fall color, not just yellowing and browning
from the drought, but starting to see some fall color
out there. Use you the more stressed plants give you
some earlier fall color. You see some maples in that
(35:49):
the color has started coloring up three or four weeks ago,
typically means they're a little understressed, whether they're newly planted
or in they're extremely dry spot or whatever it may be.
But you know what really starts this color up right
now before everything else gets into bright color. And it
is spectacular. I mean it really is spectacular. As a
matter of fact, I've had it as our plant pic
of the week. It's a vine and it turns. It
(36:13):
starts out kind of shades of yellows and oranges, but
then it gets that red and even that dark purple,
and I mean it stands out like a sore thumb.
And you see it on the sides of trees, and
you see it here and there everywhere, and if you
grab it, it makes you itch, Yeah, I'm talking about
poison ivy. You talk about spectacular fault color. Well, you
(36:34):
know why they do that. One of the reasons, speculation, obviously,
is that they change colors typically before a lot of
other plants because they have seeds that are there, and
that's of course how they spread, so that bright color
can help to attract some of the migratory birds coming
through who can pick up a few seeds and distribute
those around the area. Kind of makes sense. But the
(36:56):
point being here is one is you can find poison
ivy because it turns fall color earlier than a lot
of other plants, So look for it that way. Remember
those leaves when they drop still have the ureserol in it.
It's still very toxic. And the vines, you know, if
the pieces drop off or whatever, or you happen to
cut them off at the ground, and that vine's still
on the side of the tree and you're gonna pull
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that off of there.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Don't forget that ursierol. It lasts three, four, five.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Six years in that vine, and you can still get
it if you do. By chance, you're out working cleaning
up this fall, do I.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Want to talk with you about that too? As far
as what how.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Extreme do you clean up now with all the new
insight on, you know, kind of leaving the ever the
landscape look natural over the winter. I'm curious what you
what you think about that. I'm kind of compromising between
the two. But you know, as you're cleaning up and
all of a sudden you start to break out in
a rash, Well that's because of poison ivy. Those leaves
are still very viable. So remember the product called zan
(37:56):
fell z a n f EF you other website and
fell dot com and you can find out where you
can get like a wall wall greens a lot of
garden centers and that it's about forty forty five bucks
or two. But it does work post rash. Yeah, post rash.
I think it's one of the only products out there
for doing that. So Columbus, we.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Go, don good morning, good money. How I'm good.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know you've been in the landscape business, guarding business
for a while. What's your you know about about thirty
five years?
Speaker 7 (38:28):
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Uh, the old the old practice used to be going
and clean everything up, cut all the perennials back, clean
everything up, rake it out, nice clean beds when it's
all said and done going into the winter season and now,
and I get it looking at the wildlife and the
and the you know, helping things over winter, leaving some
of those seat heads up and all you know, the
(38:48):
thing is let it be and let it sit there
and look like that over the wintertime and then clean
it up in the spring.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 9 (38:57):
My so, it's mixed. It's I think it depends on
what type of winter you have, because even many of
the owner mountal grasses you get heavy snow ice said,
most things just get mad and mad down like nobody's business. Yep,
so and they look like, well they's show. I mean,
I think it's it's personal pleasance. I don't think it
matters too much either way. I mean, like most things
(39:18):
in this industry are, it's largely posting. No preference that
it is now all the time, obviously, but you know
many of the times there is so. But I personally
always could keep everything clean. That's just how I was trained.
That's just that's just my own Aldea.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Well that's why I say, you've been into business a
long time and that's always been the way I looked
at it. But you know, I'm more and more kind
of doing a half and half cleaning up work in.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
Exactly really it really started in Europe to try the
probably twenty twenty five years old to leave the natural look.
And I don't really as you know, that was it
was actually a one eighty because it was previously you know,
you look at the tradition snow and I start him
as an industry action in New Zealand, it was very
(40:05):
much like everything has to be clean, everything has to
be caught. And then sometime around it was I lived
in christ Church for a bar yeo between two thousand
and one and two thousand and two, and that's why
I did. I'd actually got into the industry. And that
was what I was going to talk about is the
I don't know how we can get people in. And
it seems to be an Ohio problem because even when
I lived in Potland a couple of years ago, again
(40:26):
it seem to have this problem. But just to illustrate that,
yesterday I was going to the grocery store and there
was a large reputable nursery, you know, the one here
in Columbus and throughout the central area there was installing
some trees in a car park in a parking lot,
a ginkle blobis in little like six by six plots
in the middle of the car park. Which never mind, Okay,
(40:47):
they just took the whole bloodything in there, didn't take
off the bowl, app didn't take off the while cage,
just left everything in there and just piled some molch
on top of it. And I really think that because
this doesn't happen, you know, this doesn't happen in New Zealand.
That was all this in the UK, and I didn't
he listened to Germany, and I guess he lists in Poland.
And I just I don't know why that's such a
(41:08):
big issue here for improperly planted plants in Ohio. I
mean since especially since this is such a huge queen
industry state. I've spent twenty five years trying to figure
this out why that's true here, And my best guess
here is that's a cultural thing that you know, frankly,
this industry has not really looked upon highly. Many of
the trades are now. I'm never trying to change that,
but I think you know, I can tell you, I
(41:29):
can tell you for a fact, in the UK and
in New Zealand, it was it was a respective thing,
and here it's just kind of fip of it was
a job for high school kids, convicts and stoners, you know,
so well, I think you know, I see that jokingly,
but I think there's some truth to that. At least
will be actual installers. I think that, you know, it's
it's also fans that me. You know, landscape companies are
(41:51):
a dime a dozen here. That's not true everywhere else, right,
but it may be a bit of a waste to
the bottom in terms of price.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Got it, Well, there you go. That's Don's opinion. Appreciate it.
I'll tell you what I think I'm seeing more and
more good, good people coming out of school probably focus
more on the good practices, rewriting the things, trying to
get people educated. Of course, that's been our whole goal
of the show, is to keep folks educated as far
(42:17):
as the proper ways to plant.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
So, you know, between.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Us in the schools and the new kids coming along
and younger generations, hopefully we can continue to change those practices.
And you know, like I said earlier, like Rom was
pushing earlier, you know, to plant the right tree in
the right spot, the right way and grow the tree,
not just plant the tree. Quick break we come back,
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard board. You talking
about yard egg this month of October. Let's kick it
off with the cup of Joe. Uh. You know Joe,
don't you know? No, you know Joe, Joe Strecker. He's
our executive producer. He takes care of our website, our
Facebook page. Of course, the website is Ron Wilson Online
dot com. Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson, which,
by the way, Ron roethis is not on the Facebook
(00:59):
page today.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Why not, Well, I'm guessing that he's not because he's
in Australia.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh he'd better still be. He's called the world Wide Web.
He's in Australia. Worldwide.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
He's touring Australia and New Zealand. Nineteen day tour. Wow,
they send me pictures Thursday. I think it was.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's pretty cool. I guess that's one of the places
I always wanted to go. I just don't know if
I could handle the by the way, good morning, remember me.
I don't know that I could handle the flight over. Yeah,
you give me a plane more than about four hours
or so, and I guess it all depends on the
leg room.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, I'm starting to get a little antsy, so I
guess you'd have to do it. No, you fly like
to la and then the Hawaii and then to Japan,
and then should you get different legs. I'll take your
word for it, but yeah, I don't know if you
want to break it up. I guess you could do that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Wow. But yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Eighteen hours. Yeah, so he's over there for three days.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Pretty cool? Pretty cool. So did you miss me? But
you didn't you miss what? You didn't miss me? Nice
to week You're here, all right? So I was a trip.
It was great, nice and relaxing. That was the weather
in Florida. Beautiful. I think it only rained, well, it
rained on rain every day. It kind of rained every day.
(02:17):
But where we were in a Kissimi, which is just
outside of Orlando, I mean, you could see the clouds coming,
but you know, it just kind of like at my house,
they just kind of die, right, Oh, Joe's there, Let's
just go around the other side. I think I think
Tuesday evening we had rain and there was a little
(02:38):
bit of rain maybe Thursday, but that was pretty much
it for our for where we were at. So what
did you do for a whole week? Nothing? Absolutely nothing?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
N O T H I N G.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean even though we were in Orlando, we didn't
go to Disney, we didn't go to Epcot, wouldn't do
any of those things. We were just going to enjoy
doing nothing. We didn't go to Gator World. We did
not thing. I'm my gosh, you got to go to
Gator World. No, No, we at the Gators we used
to be. I mean the place we were at, everything
was was contained on the on the property. We didn't
(03:11):
need to leave.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's nice. You should have had a grocery store in
every had a grocery.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Store on the property, restaurants on the property, entertainment on
the property. You know, a water park on the property.
Which right did you go on? Huh? Water park?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I went down one slide, yeah, and I thought I
was going to drown seriously, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'm not.
You know, the the fifteen year old Joe would have
went down the water slide million times screaming, and the
fifty year old Joe was like, oh gosh, this is terrible.
Let me go back to the lazy River. So I
went around raped. I think I spent the first day
(03:52):
we went to the water park. I think I spent
two and a half hours on the Lazy River, just
going around in circles. I'm just floating ontu every time
I passed that, every time I passed bye, see me.
Did they have a bar on that one too? Yeah, yeah,
there was a bar there. You couldn't we weren't allowed
(04:12):
to take anything on the river in case you spilled it,
But there was a bar there. Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You don't think anybody else would do anything else in
that Lazy River do I you know what?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But you can't spell your drinking there. Don't spell your
drinking there. So yeah, it was. It was fun then
that The place was great. Good for you, you know.
The hospitality was awesome. I definitely recommend it, you know,
for Yeah, it was. It was great. It was like
relaxing week and I turned my phone off as much
as I possibly could.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, because I sent you a test text. You sent
me a text the first weekend, Yeah, I just to see.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm sorry I didn't answer you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
No, I'm glad you did it because I laughed and said,
all right, good for him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, I I think I checked my my messages maybe
like like once in the morning and once after we
got finished at the pool, you know, just to uh,
you know, just because I didn't want to come back
to work with uh, you know, three thousand messages either.
So you know, I kind of cleared cleared out email
(05:19):
and stuff, and but I didn't answer anything good. So, yeah,
it was great. Do you enjoy the fauna? Sure? Yeah,
the fauna was great. Oh, I need to tell you
about these bugs we got attacked. It wasn't like it
was like Thursday. We got hit by love bugs. Love bugs, Yeah,
(05:44):
that's what they were. They called love bugs. It's a
it's a this bug and it's about people can't see,
but it's maybe about an inch long, and it flies
and it's got a red head and the mail is
actually attached to the female. That's why it's called a
love bug. Or it's called a honeymoon bug. Okay, because
(06:07):
they're mating in the air and they fly in man
and they fly and and those things bite the heck
guy really wait goodness? Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe Joe Bogsman
will know about it here in a couple of hours.
But but yeah, I mean they're like a beetle. They
(06:29):
they kind of look like they kind of look like
a lightning bug with another bug attached to it. But
with they land on you, the female will bite you.
I mean, the male's just kind of a long for
a ride, which is kind of you know, standard operating
procedure for I guess every species. But but yeah, I
mean it was Thursday Thursday they were bad, but the
(06:54):
rest of the time it was okay. Yeah, they land
on you, they bite you, give you a little little pinch. Wow.
Love bugs. So that's what that's. I mean. I had
to look them up because I didn't know what it was.
So I took a picture of it, and thanks to
technology today, I put the picture through AI and or
(07:16):
not AI, but through a Google what's it called picture
recognition or picture finder and bloom amerricane love bugs or
honeymoon bugs. Great. So see see, so you didn't and
to mild you while you were doing, I stumped Ron
Wilson today. I have never heard of that. Yes, I
need to go to Florida. Put that on the calendar
(07:39):
after twenty five years. For twenty five years, I how
you stumped me meant more than that? Yeah, it was great? Good?
So uh website.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It happens to be Ron Wilson online dot com. In
the Facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson before
we hit that any guests today build a bore from
uh Ron ronthou was calling from Australia? Is not calling
from Australia, slacker? What can I say? But Bill de
boor from what do You Wear House? We've had hit
on recently talking about native plants and he's going to
talk about native fall blooming plants, perfect for the late bloomers,
(08:13):
for the pollinators. So he'll give us a good list.
He gave us a good list before of nice woody
tree shrubs and Woody's woodies tree and shrub and now
he's going to do flowering plants.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Bill, Bill knows his stuff, he knows his natives and
his native species and all that. So yeah, it's wood
you Wear House? So that's our only guests you, Gary
and Buggy Joe and Danny in between.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So the Facebook pages rocking and rolling. The chat room
is up and running. There's a couple of of a
posted this week from Buggy Joe about the box cream moth.
What's going on with that? And Thomas de Haas has
something about the patients chading patients. Yes, yeah, uh, rita
(09:00):
recipe of the week looks really good, really good. It's
a look good. Uh. It's a Mexican dish, a raz
con polio, which if you go to a Mexican restaurant
would be you can get those. But it's just chicken.
It's chicken chicken. Yes, but it's really really, really really
(09:24):
really good. I could do without the olives because I'm
not a big olive guy. But yeah, I just take
the olives out of mind and.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Just take those out. So tastes like dirty socks.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Rita's Recipe of the Rather you do anyway? Yeah? Uh? So,
aras con polo is a Rita's recipe of the week,
and the uh, the plane of the week is the
burr oak. Why'd you pick that because that's what you
sent me.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh, it's my favorite tree of all trees, right next
to the gink go and the Japanese maple. But that's
one of my favorite trees.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Casciras macro carpa close us corpus quercus quercus quacus macrocarpa.
So yeah, burroaks, Yes, what's so awesome about the burroke'
that's it is a stately shade tree, huge, give it
(10:24):
plenty of time to grow, big leaves, big acorns, mossy
mossy oak is called sometimes but really nice.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's just of all the oak trees, that just to
me is the ultimate of all oaks.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Are those the same oaks that they have down in
normal live oaks? They're the same family.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yes, I still remember you came when you came back
from down there. You're all impressed with it. Those are
awesome pictures of this. If I sat on one of
the branches, yeah, because it came right out. They came
right on the ground, right above the ground. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah. So yeah, I'm rested and relaxed, and I'm back
from from Vaca. So the the other cool part about
the place that we went is, uh, the sports party
went to had Margarita's on tap mm hmm. And they
were really really strong and yummy, tasty, very tasty and
(11:26):
maybe you had one or two excellent, Yes, God for you.
So if there's any restaurant tours out there that are listening,
and in addition to beer on tap, you should try Margarita's.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
On the rocks. Frozen on the rocks even better. So
no salt, well, they.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Had some kind of like Himalayan volcanic salt, that's what
they called it. It could have just been regular salt
with of h black coloring, but it's sounding cool on
the menu. It would be different, so so cool. All right.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You like Dewey's Pizza, Yeah, Dewey's is really good. You
like Skyline? Yeah, shee with the guy coming out? Yeah,
I saw that. I saw that story.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh I thought you'd like that because I like And
that's not the spaghetti pizza. No, no, no, that's that's
the Skyline dip Pizzah. Yeah, it's October the eighth. There
we go, every last, every last cool. All right, are
you gonna head out? Open the phone lines, load them up,
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and if you haven't got a question answered the last
couple of weeks, this is the one hop on I
wanted to take you to get the back in the groove.
What for being gone for a week doing absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Nothing, probably like two or three days because because my
my sleep schedule was so stuff. Yeah, it took me
to like Wednesday before I finally got back to normal.
That's good that it was really good.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Joe Schreker, Executive producer. If you like what you see
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Blame doctor Z who decided to come the town and
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Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's right, it was, it was. It was I think
wedding focused.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, right, so you still have time for your buddies.
I did volunteer rest to sing at the wedding. Well
you can sing at the wedding. What you're an excellent singer?
Sure about just kind of follow it behind you. Okay,
we'll do Okay, we'll do that. Maybe we'll do a
joint toast for him. Okay, but first of all, you
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know what, Joe, what we have to get invited. That's
true as well, wedding.
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I've never done that before. Crash we can be the crashers.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
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Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'll be Vin Spawn good point, good point. Yeah, thanks
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Speaker 2 (14:07):
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Speaker 1 (17:10):
Talking yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. During the break there, I could hear my
I could feel my cell phone buzzing over here to
my left, and I picked it up and looked, and
it's Ron Roethlis, the Yarbor doctor who was in Australia.
I think he's in Sydney.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And it's like eight what is it eight whatever, they're
eight thirty or whatever, twenty twenty five anyway in the evening,
and he is in his room listening to the show
you talk about technology, Dan. You know first of all
that we're you know, talking to him in Sydney, Australia
through text, and its immediate. It's right there, back forth, back.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Forth, yeah, within a few seconds. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And then he's sitting in his hotel room listening to
the show. I mean, that's that's just mind boggling that.
But that's today, right, that's today world.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, it's eight twenty six over there, right.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now, yeah, so that kind of crazy stuff. One thing
he did mention and obviously he's on a I think
it's a three week tour that he's out there, but
obviously they're looking at he's looking at trees and things
like that. And he said, what's impressed him so far
the most about their urban trees, plantings and all is
that most all of the urban trees look great. And
(18:24):
he said they do so much extra care for all
of their trees. And he said, as he looks around,
he sees root flares everywhere. That's like priorities showed me
the flare and he said, it's it's just it's wonderful
to see. And he said there are obviously a few
ailing trees here and there for whatever reason it may be.
But he said that what they do is spectacular. And
(18:47):
so he is totally impressed with what they do. And
I think it's a great point. You know, when we
talk about how you know, if you want the biggest
influence you can on this mother earth. You know, recycling
and all the things we do, that's great, that all helps,
but planting a tree or two or three every year,
planning them properly, right tree, right location, planning them properly
(19:11):
and taking care of them to grow properly as well.
Not just planting trees, but growing trees is so dog
gone important and some countries, some communities get it more
than others. And he kind of said something about how
do we get this across everybody out there as far
(19:32):
as how important it is for planting procedures, right tree,
right place, planting procedures and then doing the right things
to get them to grow and do what they need
to do. And it's a great, great point. So you know,
again I can't stress it enough. You know, it's fall
time to get out and plant a tree or two
or three, great time to do it. Plant the right
(19:52):
tree in a right spot, make sure you plant it properly,
show me the root flayer, and then do everything you
can as that tree continues to grow, to make it
grow and grow and grow and be a healthy tree.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two fivey five. Taking
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Speaker 1 (21:56):
Talking yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your personal
yard boy. We are talking yarding. I forgot to mention
hope she doesn't shoot me. Rita Hikenfel will be joining
us at the top of the hour. Uh, talking well
out to the to her garden and we'll talk about
her recipe as well, which you can find on our
rest our website at Ron Wilson online dot com. You know,
(22:18):
there's so much going on right now in the yard
and garden, it's crazy. Now we're going through a little
bit of a drought again. Got that good rainfall came
through a couple of days, kind of helped out a bit,
replenished a few lakes and ponds, and then it warmed
right back up again. And now we haven't had any rainfall,
so we're back into that situation again. Looking at the
drought map for Ohio, Uh, pretty much all around moderately
(22:42):
moderate drought, slight drought, some areas even worse. So we
need the rainfall, so keep up your watering please. You know,
falls an excellent time for planting. Uh, it is an
excellent time for planning, and we still have plenty of time.
You got all of October and as long as the
warm weather sticks with us, you got November and sometimes
all the way into December.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So we still have.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Plenty of time different planting, but getting out there and planting,
and you know, I anticipate as the temperature start to
cool down, and we're seeing a definite cool down next
week and some showers moving through, and you know, once
just starts to cool down, daytime temps and nighttime temps,
days are getting shorter, soil us and dry out as quickly.
(23:22):
So when you water, you know, it sticks around, it
doesn't just go away in a hurry. So you know,
keep planting. You may have to pre water a little bit,
grassy lawns, things like that. A lot of questions right now,
you know, is am I too late for cool season seeding?
You know, we try to get that done mid August
through the end of September. Well we're getting late, but
(23:47):
I still would recommend you do it. If you've been
waiting and waiting waiting and you can do it, I'd
get on it. And the only one I wouldn't be
trying to see this late in the season would be
the blue grasses. They take a long time to germinate.
It may take two or three weeks before you see
him start to come up, and you don't know what's
going to happen at that point. So those I would
(24:07):
probably hold off. But the fescues, the rise not an issue,
and I would get on that right away. So if
you've got those bare areas that you haven't done any seating.
As matter of fact, talking with a gentleman this week
who went through the process of killing everything out, I
mean he took the I'm not.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Sure what he used it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It was fertilum's kills all whatever, but he killed everything
out moded down low. We did find out that he
had a fairly thick thatch below. Now, if it's less
than a half an inch, you're you're okay, you can
slice seed down through that. If it's thicker than that,
you might want to get some of that out of there.
But that does help to keep moisture once you get
(24:44):
it good and wet. If it's thinner, all right, less
than half an inch, kind of access a little bit
of multi for you for your new seed. But nevertheless,
doing that all this week and he's going to get
on this weekend to finish up, so he'll get that
slice seeded. You'll get it the starter fertile in there,
put the water to it, and he's gonna have to
keep it just evenly moist not wet. We don't want
(25:05):
it puddled water wet. We just want good even moisture.
And you you know, you may have to do that
a little sprinkling every day just to keep that even moisture.
And I think you'll be surprised how quickly the tall fescues,
turf type tall fescues, or if you're using rise, how
quickly they do come up. Seven ten days, you're up
and start to see green. And by the end of
(25:26):
October you're gonna be looking at a pretty green lawn
at that point. By the way, if you are using
a slice or slit ceedar when you are seeding your
your lawn, and remember that seed soil contact, your seed
touching the soil is so important. Got to do that
or you're not gonna, you know, get that seed to germinate.
(25:47):
Very very important.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And so that's why we use a slice or slit
ceedar to get it down into the ground, just barely
into the top of the surface. But uh, if you
are doing that, remember crisscross your patterns, So do half
your rate. If it's eight pounds per thousand square feet,
do four pounds per thousand square feet north and south.
(26:12):
Then do four thousand per square feet east and west.
So you crisscross and you don't have like corn rows.
You'll actually see a checkerboard pattern starting to come up
with your grass seat. That's the best way to do that.
Start a fertilizer and then go from there and again
keep good even moisture to it. And as like I
was saying earlier, the days get are getting shorter. It's
(26:34):
gonna get cooler next week. Nighttime temperatures are dropping nicely.
You know it won't dry out quite as quickly. So
you know again I'm on it. I'm saying go ahead
and go for it this week. If you're still looking
to do some last minute seating to get it up
and growing yet this fall and we're talking cool season
grasses zones southern, five, sixes, sevens eights, I'd get on it.
(26:59):
I think you still got plenty time to do that.
Otherwise we start to hold off and we will look
at dormant seating, which means you put it down and
you know it's going to be too cold, too late
in the season, not going to come up. The seed
stays there, wait till springing goes. And if you're going
to do that, might I suggest that you wait until
mid to late February. Freezing and thawing helps to work
(27:21):
the seeds into the ground. It's a little closer to
germination time. You'll probably have a lot less seed loss
by doing it later in you know, closer to the
spring season. Fall seeding the best time, dormant seeding the
second best time, spring seating the third best time. So
you know, now's a good time to do it. And
(27:41):
again start a fertilizer. And if you haven't put regular
lawn food down yet on those cool season turfs, still
got time to do that for the first feeding, get
it down, give yourself about six weeks, and you can
come back and put the second feeding down at that
point and you'll probably be using the same fertilizer I
like in the all using fur looms. Long food plus
(28:04):
iron does a great job for both feedings. All right
now and again in about six weeks seven weeks, you
can put it down for a second second application, so
I still get on it and tree planting the same way.
I still get on that as well. To Cincinnati we go, DJ, good.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Morning, Good morning run.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I'm trying something new this year.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Tried to tried to grow some late sunflowers just to
put them out in the fall around Halloween, see if
we can get some pretty color extending into the late fall.
So I put them out and they're all about i'd say,
about eighteen inches tall now and just getting ready to
put them in the ground. And I noticed that I've
got some aphids on the.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
On the stems.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
You know that fy furry stem.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And you know, I know that.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
An easy way to get rid of aphids is just
to blast it with water. But they're not stable enough
or firm enough to get them with water and knock
it off. So I'm wondering if there's something I could
mix up to put on it, or use a seven
or something. I wasn't sure what to do.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, insecticidal soap does a great job. That'll that'll knock
those off of there for you, you know, by putting
it on, and the soap does a great job. The
soap it interferes with it kind of just helps to
dry them up once it interferes with their breathing, So
even though they're a sucking insect, it does work on
aphans as well, and it's very safe, good for the
(29:31):
you know, better for the environment, pollinators in the whole
nine yards. But insecticidal soap should take care of it.
If you have seven, you can use that. If you
have eight E I G.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
H T.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You can use that those those both will also work.
But insecticidal soaps do a nice job for you, and
so should take care of it. I like your idea
of doing that later in the season. If we stay
like we have in the last couple three years for
the fall, you shouldn't have any problem getting those in flour.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
These are little little ones, you know, They're not the
big tall or anything.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, so they flower quicker.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Yeah, And as long as you can keep the deer away,
you know, then you you know which is which is
half the battle?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Is there a Is there a particular brand of insecticidal
soap that you like her? No? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Now, everybody has their own. I mean, Safer has theirs,
Bonny has theirs, fertilom has there, so they're they're all
out there. They're they're basically the same. But I like
using the commercially made and sexticidal soap versus doing it yourself.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Okay, good, Well, I'm going to be over at a
place tomorrow, you know of True Garden Center. Tomorrow I'll
pick something up. And you know, I can't tell you
how much we do. Appreciate everything you all do.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Hey, d you appreciate that. And I get let me
know when they start the flower, let me know all
about them.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Okay, Well, you know, like I said, at about eighteen inches,
I already got I already got buds that one right
in the middle.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Yeah, put it try you know, if anybody wants to
try it next, you know, right around September first, go
ahead and throw them and they can throw them in
a little pot, you know, some nice nice starter seeded
to start a soil and you never know.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Excellent. I appreciated DJ. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Take care, sir, bye before we take a break. Dick
from Dayton, good.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Morning, Hey, good morning, run well Danny, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Your reds didn't pull it off, but at least they
made it. Hey, hey, hey, at least they made it
into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Right, Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That's a good time.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
My cousin called me from Cleveland. I have to say,
the Guardians had a good year, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And that team came out of nowhere nowhere.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean they were way.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Down and they came out of nowhere and.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Games out yep, and they just they stunned the world.
And I just was, so this seed is a heartbreaker,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
But but but well, good for both teams to make
it into the playoffs. I look at it that way.
At least you got that far.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Yeah, But I don't know about the Browns and the Bengals.
It doesn't look good, does it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I think we've got a couple of Lord, yeah, that's
not gonna be a good year for EE to want them.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't think.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
No, No, they got to get that quarterback, getting a quarterback,
and oh, I couldn't believe they just got beats so bad.
But scot Joe Burrow, it's kind of it's kind of
rough for him, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, But Dick, how can how can I losing a
quarterback affect your defense and all the rest of the
players too.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's it's it's crazy, but you know, we'll Yeah, there's
always next year.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I guess next year.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Hey, this year isn't over yet. You never know what's
going to happen. And then you got the box. They're
doing great.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Yeah, but I think maybe maybe they'll come out of this,
you know. But the Browns play early tomorrow. They yeah,
they play early tomorrow. And yeah, you know, I'm going
to go Bundy. Somebody called me. It's called Moraine Jam.
I'm going down there down by the uh oh, it
was in West Calton there, you know that area, uh huh.
(33:10):
And it's pretty good down there. They got up, they
break pies and cake and it's just really nice, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Good for you, good for you. Well, we got to
take a break, Dick.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Always a pleasure, always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
All right. I have a great weekend. Talk to you
next week. Dick from Dayton, quick breakdown from Columbus. You're
coming up next. Phone lines are open for you at
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Speaker 1 (35:28):
Welcome back. You're in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five before we talk to Don here. You know,
if you look out right now, we're starting to finally
see a little fall color, not just yellowing and browning
from the drought, but starting to see some fall color
out there. Use you the more stressed plants give you
some earlier fall color. You see some maples in that
(35:49):
the color has started coloring up three or four weeks ago,
typically means they're a little understressed, whether they're newly planted
or in they're extremely dry spot or whatever it may be.
But you know what really starts this color up right
now before everything else gets into bright color. And it
is spectacular. I mean it really is spectacular. As a
matter of fact, I've had it as our plant pic
of the week. It's a vine and it turns. It
(36:13):
starts out kind of shades of yellows and oranges, but
then it gets that red and even that dark purple,
and I mean it stands out like a sore thumb.
And you see it on the sides of trees, and
you see it here and there everywhere, and if you
grab it, it makes you itch, Yeah, I'm talking about
poison ivy. You talk about spectacular fault color. Well, you
(36:34):
know why they do that. One of the reasons, speculation, obviously,
is that they change colors typically before a lot of
other plants because they have seeds that are there, and
that's of course how they spread, so that bright color
can help to attract some of the migratory birds coming
through who can pick up a few seeds and distribute
those around the area. Kind of makes sense. But the
(36:56):
point being here is one is you can find poison
ivy because it turns fall color earlier than a lot
of other plants, So look for it that way. Remember
those leaves when they drop still have the ureserol in it.
It's still very toxic. And the vines, you know, if
the pieces drop off or whatever, or you happen to
cut them off at the ground, and that vine's still
on the side of the tree and you're gonna pull
(37:17):
that off of there.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Don't forget that ursierol. It lasts three, four, five.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Six years in that vine, and you can still get
it if you do. By chance, you're out working cleaning
up this fall, do I.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Want to talk with you about that too? As far
as what how.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Extreme do you clean up now with all the new
insight on, you know, kind of leaving the ever the
landscape look natural over the winter. I'm curious what you
what you think about that. I'm kind of compromising between
the two. But you know, as you're cleaning up and
all of a sudden you start to break out in
a rash, Well that's because of poison ivy. Those leaves
are still very viable. So remember the product called zan
(37:56):
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or two. But it does work post rash. Yeah, post rash.
I think it's one of the only products out there
for doing that. So Columbus, we.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Go, don good morning, good money. How I'm good.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know you've been in the landscape business, guarding business
for a while. What's your you know about about thirty
five years?
Speaker 7 (38:28):
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Uh, the old the old practice used to be going
and clean everything up, cut all the perennials back, clean
everything up, rake it out, nice clean beds when it's
all said and done going into the winter season and now,
and I get it looking at the wildlife and the
and the you know, helping things over winter, leaving some
of those seat heads up and all you know, the
(38:48):
thing is let it be and let it sit there
and look like that over the wintertime and then clean
it up in the spring.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 9 (38:57):
My so, it's mixed. It's I think it depends on
what type of winter you have, because even many of
the owner mountal grasses you get heavy snow ice said,
most things just get mad and mad down like nobody's business. Yep,
so and they look like, well they's show. I mean,
I think it's it's personal pleasance. I don't think it
matters too much either way. I mean, like most things
(39:18):
in this industry are, it's largely posting. No preference that
it is now all the time, obviously, but you know
many of the times there is so. But I personally
always could keep everything clean. That's just how I was trained.
That's just that's just my own Aldea.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Well that's why I say, you've been into business a
long time and that's always been the way I looked
at it. But you know, I'm more and more kind
of doing a half and half cleaning up work in.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
Exactly really it really started in Europe to try the
probably twenty twenty five years old to leave the natural look.
And I don't really as you know, that was it
was actually a one eighty because it was previously you know,
you look at the tradition snow and I start him
as an industry action in New Zealand, it was very
(40:05):
much like everything has to be clean, everything has to
be caught. And then sometime around it was I lived
in christ Church for a bar yeo between two thousand
and one and two thousand and two, and that's why
I did. I'd actually got into the industry. And that
was what I was going to talk about is the
I don't know how we can get people in. And
it seems to be an Ohio problem because even when
I lived in Potland a couple of years ago, again
(40:26):
it seem to have this problem. But just to illustrate that,
yesterday I was going to the grocery store and there
was a large reputable nursery, you know, the one here
in Columbus and throughout the central area there was installing
some trees in a car park in a parking lot,
a ginkle blobis in little like six by six plots
in the middle of the car park. Which never mind, Okay,
(40:47):
they just took the whole bloodything in there, didn't take
off the bowl, app didn't take off the while cage,
just left everything in there and just piled some molch
on top of it. And I really think that because
this doesn't happen, you know, this doesn't happen in New Zealand.
That was all this in the UK, and I didn't
he listened to Germany, and I guess he lists in Poland.
And I just I don't know why that's such a
(41:08):
big issue here for improperly planted plants in Ohio. I
mean since especially since this is such a huge queen
industry state. I've spent twenty five years trying to figure
this out why that's true here, And my best guess
here is that's a cultural thing that you know, frankly,
this industry has not really looked upon highly. Many of
the trades are now. I'm never trying to change that,
but I think you know, I can tell you, I
(41:29):
can tell you for a fact, in the UK and
in New Zealand, it was it was a respective thing,
and here it's just kind of fip of it was
a job for high school kids, convicts and stoners, you know,
so well, I think you know, I see that jokingly,
but I think there's some truth to that. At least
will be actual installers. I think that, you know, it's
it's also fans that me. You know, landscape companies are
(41:51):
a dime a dozen here. That's not true everywhere else, right,
but it may be a bit of a waste to
the bottom in terms of price.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Got it, Well, there you go. That's Don's opinion. Appreciate it.
I'll tell you what I think I'm seeing more and
more good, good people coming out of school probably focus
more on the good practices, rewriting the things, trying to
get people educated. Of course, that's been our whole goal
of the show, is to keep folks educated as far
(42:17):
as the proper ways to plant.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
So, you know, between.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Us in the schools and the new kids coming along
and younger generations, hopefully we can continue to change those practices.
And you know, like I said earlier, like Rom was
pushing earlier, you know, to plant the right tree in
the right spot, the right way and grow the tree,
not just plant the tree. Quick break we come back,
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