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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yarding, and as I promise,
she is with us this morning. It's always exciting to
have her on our show because it's time for Are
you herbally experienced with our CZP CMA's award winning syndicated journalist,
(00:58):
Appalachian herbal scholar, accredited family herbalist, author, cooking teacher, media personality,
and motivational speaker. She's a regular contributor on Sacred Heart
Radio and on ours as well, iHeartRadio. Her website about
eating dot com ladies and gentlemen. Let's welcome Riada, Nader,
Hike and Field. Wow. Wow, big crowd.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, mister Wilson, that was white an introduction. Have just
said here, I could.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Have said riots here. Yeah, Danny one time. Danny one
time got me and said, that's funny you typed in
the riacht and I said, yeah, I do that all
the time, and that's the way I type it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
For some reason, that's okay. That started from day one,
and you're you're allowed to continue it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's just something about that I always type those two backwards,
and so I've always called you Riot. All right, this
is nice to have Riot on the show. So now
we all Yeah, Danny's always like we're Rio's on the line,
and he knows too, Yes he does. All right, let's
guess we got a lot to talk about today. I know,
I know, first of all, coming up in a little
over three weeks, your big day of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Hey, yeah, October the first. When that comes on, I
get very excited. I'm getting all my equipment. I was
going to say road ready, but it's really not road ready.
It's flight ready, wouldn't you say.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I would think? So, now, do you have any new
potions for this year for Halloween?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, I'm working on a couple. Would you like to
try him?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, but I know mister Hikenfeld does without knowing it.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, yeah, well we'll use him. Excuse me as the
guinea pig as always, and I'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I just think it's always interesting you get that frog
in your throat.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I know it. And you know I do radio shows
earlier than this, and I.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Don't know, but you use this, You use those frogs
in your potions, and somehow they make it in your throat.
All right, let's get started with that great recipe, your
fancy chicken and rice with olives and saffron. How do
you pronounce that?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Called a rose cone pool? However, a rose rice with chicken,
and it's a one pot dish, really really delicious. And
I know I heard Joe excuse me, he's not an
olive fan. So you could use bell peppers. But it's
an Ecuadorian dish from Latin America. And I think what
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makes it different than the regular chicken and rice is
you use saffron. And again those all of those green
olives that are stuffed with tomento. But the main flavor
in there is the saffron. And I'm not I wouldn't
say I'm a great saffron lover. I like a little bit.
So this is a really nice dish. If you're not
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used to saffron, have never used it. You think of pie.
My friend Bob has makes a great pie a dish
and it contains saffron, but it's we call it a spice,
but it's actually and you can explain this, it's actually
the stigma the little threads of a type of autumn crocus.
So I always just call them the little red threads.
(04:21):
So maybe you could explain stigma.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That sounds good, so we let to go into all
the all the details. Well good. Anyway, they have to
be harvested by hand in the morning, and it's it's
not the kind of crocus that we grow here. It's
a different kind, so don't try and use those for flavoring.
But it in parts a wonderful sort of a bitter flavor,
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sort of grassy, and it colors everything just really bright yellow.
And the best saffron is the threads are really really
bright red. But here's the thing. You usually just don't
add it dry to a dish. It needs to be
put in liquid to bloom and start flavoring the liquid
and you know, releasing some of the color. But anyway,
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I think this is a great dish. It has garlics
and onion and bay rice and chicken broth and the chicken.
I mean, it's really good and it's all in one pot.
So good for this time of year.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Now. I like green olives stuff with meimentos. I enjoy those.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I know, you know salt about any but you like
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm not a black olive fan, but I do like
stuffed green olives.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, I think one time you gave me a stuffed
olive with blue cheese or something. Yes, yeah, all right, anyway,
that's that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And by the way, you can buy the saffron bulbs
and plant those. You can't grow those in your garden.
Uh you know they are available, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
One time I tried to grow them in my Bible
portion of my garden because when you think of saffron,
it's ancient history, it's it's biblical. And I get a
few in the autumn, but not nearly enough because from
what I can understand, it takes over seventy thousands of
those threads to make a pound of dry.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's that's the point. So you plant those and you
can get them to grow, but the problem is the
harvest is nothing. I mean, you get some, but.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, not like what you're saying, not enough, not
enough to bother. Plus they're available with the store. It's
very expensive, but stored in the freezer and just it's
just something fun to use a little bit different than
your cooking.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So if you'd like to check out this recipe, go
to our website it's Ron Wilson online dot com and
check it out, you know, And it's interesting. Of course,
just about every recipe you give us has some type
of adult beverage in it. Chardonay wine in this one.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I know what you're gonna bring up next to the
sweet potato pie or the sweet potato casse role.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. Well I and then I get a text with
a friend of yours and he's holding up a pretty
good size sweet potato there.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh yeah, butcher shar their POTATOA village residents really good
friends in their garden. You would just love their their backyard.
It's like a paradise. But everything they grow grows gargantuan
and he had he was, they're growing sweet potatoes and
there are some of them are as big as footballs.
But you know, sweet potatoes are so good for you,
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and they grow such beautiful ones. I hope they share some.
And you were talking about the sweet potato cats rule
for Thanksgiving, weren't you?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I was, yeah. And then and you said pecans.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And well I just rode back and said pecans and
brown sugar.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Brown sugar, Yeah, I think in there that's yeah, a
little butter. And then I said a little bourbon, but
you know, and then and.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Then of course you followed up by saying, yeah, and
a little bourbon.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, it's really good in there. It's it's uh, adds
flavor and it cooks long enough so the alcohol burns out,
so we're good to go.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Then why would you not well, never mind, So I
guess I could have just a shot on the side.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh but that wouldn't be right.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh, it wouldn't be flavor.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's flavor, okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know it's amazing how sweet potatoes have come along.
And I mean today folks are baking them just like
a regular baked potato anymore. And you know, it used
to be sweet potatoes is one time a year, two
times a year. Now it's something that we seem to
eat every week.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh yeah, and you know we call them yams here,
but the true yam is.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Is that's a tropical Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Completely different, yeah, completely different. But we still call sweet
potatoes jams. Yeah. I just slice them and roast them
with a little red pepper flakes and garlic and olive oil,
like sweet potato coins. Really good. But on Thanksgiving we
got to have the cast rule. I'm with you there.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know what's interesting is when they used to do
that Tamataparada up at Wilmington College where you go up
and taste all those tomatoes. They had a high tunnel
greenhouse that they were growing other experimenting with a high tunnel,
and they had an area that was about I don't know,
ten feet wide, maybe twenty feet long. It was a
it was two by eights and it was so it
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was that deep, and then it was just a really
good soil, really nice lime salt, and that was just
strictly sweet potatoes that they grew in that box. And wow,
did they get a production in that that small an area.
I mean, that thing was loaded with sweet potatoes, nice
size too. And I guess my question is do we
want to pick sweet potatoes when they're smaller? I mean,
(09:39):
you were talking about these things that are huge. Does
it affect the flavor the bigger they get? I mean,
like you know, sometimes things start to get bitter or
crack or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, well, I think you could grow them pretty big
and you can eat them small to the flavors and nice,
but they're just there's not much there. It's like a
regular not like a little little bring white potato, you know,
the little fingerlings. I like I like a larger sized
baking potato because you can do more with it. But yeah,
but they're all edible. It's just you know, some people
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don't want to pool with the little ones.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And you know, in our house, we always had that
volunteer to pumpkin that comes up in the I and
this year, same thing it came, although it came up
in the bed and with a small tree out in
front of this landscape bed this year. But anyway, we
got quite a few pumpkins until the squirrel started eating
them all and found them and they just destroyed them.
But we rescued about six and they were about six
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inches in diameter. I say were because we wound up.
We did, and Carol wound up baking them and it
was and making. She used it to make Miley's dog food.
We make our own.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Dog food and you know pumpkins. Oh yeah, dogs and pumpkins. Yeah,
great nutrition.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I thought she was going to bake it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
For you, but no, no, for Miley. And it was
amazing the amount of meat that we got out of
those small pie pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, because they're pie pumpkins and their their shell isn't
so thick relevant you know, like the Jack o' Lannards
have left flesh in a sticker shell. So well, there
you go. I'm sure Miley is licking or chop now
she's gotten so picky.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You know, you get it? Oh man? Anyway, all right,
let's take a quick break. We come back. We're going
to jump out into Rita's garden find out what's going
on out there. We're talking with Rita Hikenfeld her website
about eating dot com. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson, Green.
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Speaker 1 (14:14):
Talking your yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Our special guests this morning, riod Rita
Nator Hikenfelder website about eating dot com. So let's take
a walk out into the vegetable garden. Let's first stop
off at the herb garden. Things are going to seed.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, the shiso is going to see the
purple and the green, and you know that volunteers everywhere.
So I've been pulling whole plants out and then drying
the leaves, you know, just for cooking and stews, and
the flavor is really wonderful. I don't know, if you
rub a schiso plant the leaves, it smells a little
(14:53):
bit like comoon. Komen used a lot in Southwestern and
Mexican even Asian cooking, and a real pretty plant. Some
people think it looks like a purple basil, the purple.
So yeah, if you've got that, harvest those seeds, and
if they're everywhere, you can pull some of those plants
out and then just dry the leaves.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I believe that is a perilla, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, it is. Yes, it is so.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And it's different from the perilla that you plant you'll buy.
I like the mcgilla, parilla, all of those. It's it's
it's in the same family, but it's different. It's used
for culinary purposes and it's very attractive. You kind of
get dinner on a show.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But yeah, and watch how you say it, especially we've
had a few.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's a little hard to say that she show.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
There you go, she show there, you go there. You
got it, all right, And so harvest those by the way,
you know, you talk about harvesting the seeds that are
in the garden, you're gonna you're talking about the she
shows and you're talking about I know your chips are
starting to go to seed now, basil going to seed now?
What's your favorite way to store your seeds over the winter,
because I know you do a lot of that and
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replant those next year.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you know, interestingly, so I put mine in little
the glass canning jars or like a Mayo jar. If
it's like the spider plant seeds that I have a
lot of. Some people put them in envelopes. How did
you do that when you were a kids. I just
like to make sure they're very very dry, and then
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you know, put them in a jar and tap them
up and keep them in a place that's cool, you know,
away from light. And that's all I do. But a
lot of people still use envelopes.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I think the envelopes still work. As a matter
of fact. You know, sometimes you look at some of
the seed companies, they have those of the Manila envelopes
that they're so that the light can't get through. Ye say,
it stay's darker and they use those and then you're
right the cool dark area. And I know some people
will actually go try to store some of these things
in the refrigerator, and I'm reading more and more about
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that's not in most cases the way to go, because
it just may stay too cold in there too. Damp
sometimes for these, So just a nice cool, dark, dryer
situation if you can find a place like that to
store them over and then go from there. And I know,
you know, you go through the process. You save tomato
seeds from your heirlooms, you actually foam them up, don't
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you get rid of the gum around? Because I usually
just put them on paper towels.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, well, a lot of people do that, but I
like to ferment them. Put the seeds in a little
bit of water and it smells bad, so I put
them on the window sill outside and then after about
a week, you're going to see the good seeds, you know,
go to the bottom and the ones that aren't viable
will float to the top. And then I spread them
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out make sure they're dry. But it's funny because talking
about fermentation our gorge. This year, I had given our
name some gourds and punkin seeds to plant in her garden,
and she left the bucket of seeds down in the rain,
and she was so upset. She said, they're all bubbly
and they look like they look like they're fermenting. I said,
(18:15):
that's probably a good thing, so we just threw them
in her garden and most of them came up, so
there you go. So yeah, I don't know if there's
a wrong way to do it, but yeah, gourds and punkins.
It's fun to save those seeds if you don't roast
the punkin seeds because it's expensive. As you were talking
about a little envelope, you get maybe thirty forty seeds
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and think of a punkin. My gosh, what thousands of
seeds in there? So easy to do in fun for
the little ones.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah and some Yeah, and sometimes you get something that
you don't recognize. Oh, where a gord crossed with another
type of gourd or whatever, and you're like, what is
that thing? Which is kind I know, which is kind
of fun sometimes when you get that right, got about
a minute to go here in vest garden. Probably not
much left out there. I would imagine any tomatoes left over.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know, we're still getting some cherry tomatoes, the larger
ones that finally started to ripe, and they're all gone.
But as I told you, I just I don't have
the heart yet to pull them out. I'm stretching out
my season and I know it's time to start cleaning
up the garden. Yeah, a few potatoes. Those were in containers.
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You'll love that. We're going for the second heart.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do you want to say that again? In containers?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I like to grow, you know, potatoes and containers are
fun for the little ones and they are easier to
get than the ground. I'll give you that. But and
the gorgon punkins, you know what we got looked pretty good.
So yeah, it's about the end of the season as
far as veggie's and that sort of thing. Looking forward
to a good fall.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Rita hiking felt always a pleasure. Her website is about
eating dot comyshare and check it out. To mister Hike
and Feld that we said a hearty hello, mister Hike.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I will do that and I'll talk to you soon again.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
All right, Rita Hikenfeld again about eating dot com. Coming
up next, build a board. We're going to talk about
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Speaker 1 (22:01):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
to talk a little bit of native plants. Love talking
about native plants, especially when we got somebody like Bill
de Boor, who is our native plant specialist. As a
matter of fact, he is the pride of the Purdue Boilermakers.
He is outspreading humanities native solutions around the world. Their
website Woody Warehouse dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, mister Bill
(22:22):
de Boor, good morning, sir. I'm you're I can barely
hear you.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Well, I guess I'll have to try to project more
for you.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
There you are, now get now we got you, and
now we got you. So good morning. How are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
On yourself?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
See you keep breaking up. I don't know if you're
on a speakerphone or there we go.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
I'll just try streaming. How about that?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
There? Now you're clear as a bell. That's kind of
unusually this this early in the morning anyway, talking about natives.
And we appreciate you coming on the show. You know
you you grace us with us some information last month.
Really do appreciate that. And of course coming back on again,
we're going to talk today about what native plants can
offer some niceness for you in the fall, including fall colors,
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berries and maybe even flowers. And by the way, I
want to mention again. Their website is Woody warehouse dot com.
And I don't know if you've got my text or email,
but you guys were in a hurry delivering some plants
last Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, we're trucking all over the Midwest, so that is
we're always in a rush to make it delivery, get
back home for the next one.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Got to get those native plants out there and move forward.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
That's right, All right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Let's talk about what's interesting about fall for native plants.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, and I think you know, ron when we think fall,
a lot of people go first and foremost to leave color,
and obviously that's what we think of, but when we're
kind of thinking in ecological terms, native plants offer a
lot more. And so while there isn't a lot of
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things that are flowering this time of year, the things
that are are very important to the pollinators because they
are hungry. They're looking for food and there's not a
lot around and so having those food sources is very impactful.
And then of course, when we think about migrating birds
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and even birds that stay here year round, having food
sources as we progress into the winter is very important.
Right now, they still have a lot of insects to
forage on, but as those insects start to go away
with cold temperatures, having native seeds for the birds to
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eat is very important.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, you know, we talk
a lot about bird feeding and using the bird feeders
and all of that, and they do well. But you know,
the bird feeders this time of the year actually kind
of slow down because the native and they want them.
They want their native netw source of food, and so
they kind of slowed down for a while. But then,
as you said, as we start to get into the
late fall and winter, obviously they'll come back to the
(25:08):
feeders more and more, but now they start counting on
those native plants to carry them through as well. So
it's a combo of the two. And I think a
lot of times we have a Tennessey to forget about
landscaping for the birds and wildlife in addition to using
the feeders.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Yeah, and I'm relieved this time of year, Ron because
my feeders aren't getting hit so much, so I'm not
watching my wallet get depleted of so much birds.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Eat, except for when the squirrels show up.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
That's true. They're always out to get me.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I swear that. Yeah, we won't get into that topic
today talk with Bill Deboor. Of course, their website is
Woody Warehouse dot com. Be sure and check it out.
So what kind of uh, let's start talking about some
of these What are some good ones as far as
providing us with good seeds and berries.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, and so you know you talked about baroque and
so any of the oaks in the white oak group
tend to be very preferential for birds and wildlife to eat.
And so having any of those white oaks, which includes
white oak, swamp, white oak, burroak. I'm probably missing a
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few others, but those are all really good choices because
you have that high protein, high fat acorn that a
lot of wildlife will eat. From the shrub perspective, I
always go with viburnums and dogwoods at the top. The
viburnums some of the seed a little too big for
(26:41):
song birds, but arrowood viburnum, maple leaf y burnum has
a smaller group and the birds can utilize those easier.
Spice bush that's a really good one. If you have
female spice bush plants this time of year, they kind
of pseudo evergreen, waxy, bluish fruit, winterberry red not the
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most preferential, but gives you that great color as the
season gets colder.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And don't the bird seem to hold off on that
one for a while, Like I mean, they wait a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
They really don't hit it until they're basically very hungry,
and then they say, you know, i'll go after It's
kind of like lima beans and me is I'll either
if that's all I have, not me. But the exact
same way is that the birds really they'll hit them
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late winter when there's not a lot around, but they're
not going to be the first source that they go after.
We've got two other shrubs that are kind of flying
under the radar. One is coral berry and the other
one is snowberry. Same genus is coralberry kind of has
a few a pink seed fruit and snowberry, like its namesake,
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is white. And so they're not highly preferred by wildlife,
but when you're kind of thinking about winter interest, those
two really pop in the landscape when they're covered with
those very colorful fruits.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You know what's interesting about both of those We learned
about those in college when I was going centuries and
centuries ago, but they were never available. Nobody ever grew
them in it. You know, it's just kind of one
of these, you know, a native plant that was out there,
and we are fortunately starting to see those show up
now more and more in the garden centers and nurseries
available for folks who use good landscape plants, you know,
(28:41):
great flower, great plant overall. And the berries are spectacular.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, I mean the shrubs themselves, they can you know,
coralberry will run and spread and so and it's not
the most you know esthetically, you know, it's a shrug
plant out there. There is really hard, hardy, durable, and
that uh, that winter color through the droops is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Oh yeah, no doubt. Can I back up for a second,
you were talking about the oaks, and uh and and
and bur ok It is my favorite of all trees.
I absolutely love that thing. And don't get hit by
one of those oaks when they fall out of there,
because it will knock you out. But you know, the
great source of food for for a lot of wildlife
out there. I am not familiar and I don't think
I can even identify a swamp chestnut oak.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah that's uh, that's a more southern species, so it's
not very common okay, But that is one that really,
you know, you look at bur oak, swamp white oak,
they're not going to wow you with their fall color.
But swamp chestnut oak, which is more southern Indiana, Kentucky,
southern Ohio maybe Okay, really has quite striking kind of
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purple to red to almost orange at times fall color.
And so that's one that despite its namesake, does fine
in kind of mesick medium ordinary soils, but obviously can
handle slightly wetter sites as well.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Got it. Talking with Bill Deboor. He is out there,
of course, Woody Wearhouse dot Com the website. He's out
there sharing humanity's native solutions to the world, and we
appreciate all the work that he does letting folks know
about all these native plants. Let's take a quick break,
we come back. Bill's got a lot more to share
with us as we're looking at fall characteristics of these
native plants that you might want to incorporate into your landscape.
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Speaker 1 (32:07):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Build
the boars with us this morning spreading humanities native solutions
woodiwaarhouse dot com. You We're talking about, of course, native plants.
He is the pride of the Purdue boiler Makers who
are taking on the fighting a line e today. That
could be a tough game.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
That will be a wonderful loss to witness.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Round easy to watch Illinois lose. Say.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
If I don't say it, then I'm right there.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You go. Hey there all noise plants. They're pretty tough.
But yeah, good luck today, it's going to be a
good one. Anyway, Let's continue on here talking about these
native plants. And of course, you know you're talking about
the plant itself, you're talking about the fruits and berries
and seeds that these plants can provide. Obviously native plants
for our native wildlife as well as we look at
(32:55):
using these also for spectacular color. And you'd mentioned that at
the very beginning about fall color. A lot of these
plants really put on a good show.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, and I think it's important to note, you know,
as you've been talking about drought and lack of rainfall,
is that that will influence fall color. And so some
things that can have spectacular fall color can kind of
go from green to brown or green to yellow to drop.
And so unfortunately, when the plants are not getting water.
(33:27):
Their first response is, hey, let's cut off this water
loss we're having through the leaves and let's just pack
it up for the season and we'll try again next year.
So if we get some rainfall and the temperatures stay cool,
I think we'll probably have some good color with some
of these species left. I mean there are certain species
like ginko on my properties. It's already dropped. It went
(33:49):
yellow and dropped and it's done, yeah, just because of
drought stress. But other things are still green, and I
you know, we'll see what the weather has in store
for us.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, yeah, and I think, you know, we'll still get
some color out of it. But again, it's all weather.
I think we're going to get some cooler tempts next
week and maybe some rainfall. But I think in Indiana,
I was looking at your map yesterday in Ohio as well.
You know, Ohio is pretty much in a slight to
moderate drought through the entire state, and you guys are
kind of falling right along there.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Yeah, we have not We've had one significant rainfall and
what feels like a month plus, so it's uh, we're dry.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Talking with Native plants. Of course,
that would be Bill de Boor. He is our native
plant specialist. Woody Warehouse dot com is their their website.
Talk to me a little bit, and this is one
of my favorite plants and way underused in the landscape,
and that would be witch hazel.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah, that's a great one that we don't think about
in terms of fall flowering. Common witch hazel is one
that will start flowering about this time. Yellow flowers almost
kind of like a starburst, really kind of yellow flower.
And that's an important one because you'll get it through October,
(35:11):
sometimes into November, depending on microclimates and what have you.
But that's a great one to kind of add a
little zip of color and also provide something for the
pollinators as well.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And then of course we get into the common witch hazel,
and then there are hybrids as well, but we can't
consider those natives correct.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Well, that's a whole nother discussion.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I just thought i'd throw that out there for you.
I don't know if you wanted to get into that
one or not talking with Bill debor talking about native
plants obviously, and you know, we talk about the woody plants,
the trees and the shrubs that are out there and
available for you for fall colors, seeds and berries. What
about herbaceous plants, native plants for the fall season.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah, the workhorses this time of year are really the
golden rods and the Asters. When we kind of think
about landscape design, I tell people don't have that front
and center as the feature plant, because the vast majority
of the year it's not going to look like much.
But all of a sudden they explode with color in September, October,
(36:18):
and sometimes even into November. And if you walk past
any golden rod or aster right now, I dare say
you will see every flying thing just literally attached to
it like this is their bloodline. And so really important
because as I said in the beginning, there's not much
(36:40):
flowering out there, and it's dry, and so not only
do you have these pollinators that are hungry, they're thirsty,
and so there are means by some of these fall
things to try to get a little bit of sustenance.
So really important that when you're talking golden rod dominantly yellow,
(37:01):
there are some whites, and then with the asters, it's
kind of the white to the blue to pinkish hues
is what you're going to be into.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So what do you when we talk about these native plants,
what do you see out there in grasses that are
native because right now they would be supplying some flowers
obviously those plumes, and some seeds as well.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yeah, and I think a lot of times people kind
of overlook some of the grasses. I love them as
a winter interest because several of our native grasses stay
standing up throughout most of the winter, almost into early spring.
And so what we're talking about is switch grass. Little
(37:44):
blue stem, if you're looking for something it gets is
a little bigger than big blue stem is a good one.
And so you know, little blue stem in particular has
some amazing fall color, but even after the foliage is dead,
kind of having that screen of brown and just the
way they move in the wind. It is a wonderful
(38:06):
axt to kind of consider, not just from an aesthetics standpoint,
but a functional in terms of screening and doing other things.
But like you said, a lot of songbirds absolutely love
hitting the seeds off of many of these native grasses.
And so once again you can provide a food source
(38:27):
that isn't going to the store and buying a bag
of birdsuo.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Looking for a great list of all these plants, go
to their website is woodewaarhouse dot com. And again, as
I've always said, when we have Bill on our show,
if you go to your local independent garden center and
they say, you know what, we having a hard time
coming up with a source of native plants to sell
in our garden center, give him that website woodiwarehouse dot com.
Have him get in touch with Bill and he's got
a great source of native plants for them to bring
(38:53):
into their garden centers and all different sizes, but again,
great information so you can get a kind of a
list to work with.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Here.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, a few minutes left here, I got a couple
of questions for you here kind of off the we
don't I every now and then I guess somebody that says, well,
you know, we're talking about these native plants, but I
know we're talking about native vines for the area.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Yeah, that's a that's a great one. We do have
some wonderful vines. I think the asterisk mark that I
will put anytime we're talking vines is, for the most part,
they are geared towards climbing, conquering, overcoming as their main
form of growth, and so you have to think about
(39:37):
vines kind of in terms of they're going to be
aggressive and you need to make sure the spot that
you're planting it you can either maintain it, prune it back,
or you know, don't put it next to things that
it can overtake and then choke out. And so that's
kind of my cautionary tale. With that being said, you
(39:58):
know this time of year, American bittersweet that is a
dioecious vine, so there's male bearing flowers and female bearing flowers.
But that is one versus the Asianic bittersweet that is
highly ornamental. You can do decorations with it. It's a
great one, but it does climb and grab hold kind
(40:19):
of like wisteria does. We've got Virginia creeper, which you know,
you want to talk about spectacular scarlet fall color. That's
kind of like poison ivy where you're hard pressed to
find something that's more brilliant in terms of the fall color.
The female plants will bear a blue droup that songbirds love.
(40:45):
It can act like a vine, it can act like
ground cover. So a lot of you know, poison ivy
and Virginia creeper can kind of be dual purpose that way.
And then I encourage people try something like pipe vine
that flies under the rain. Are the pipe fine swallowtail
uses that as a toast plant. It's got like almost
(41:05):
a pipe shaped weird flower that looks tropical that goes
early kind of mid late spring summertime, and then huge
heart shaped leaves. And so if you've got a dead
snag or something that you just kind of say, I
want to leave it up for the woodpeckers or you
know something, but I just don't want to look at
(41:27):
this dead tree anymore, consider something like these vines like
pipe vine does a wonderful job of covering it up
and providing more functionality to a snag for you.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Again to where the website is Woody warehouse dot com.
You know, I took a class a couple of years
ago ogi aheaded or whatever gentleman was talking about native
plants from the beginning colonial days, and he was talking
about how they used to sell poison ivy seeds and
the description was beautiful vine, great flower, grape berry, great
fall color, spectacular does make you itch? I thought that
(42:02):
was kind of it.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
That's one I don't recommend for people. I'll say that.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Bill de boor he's spreading the word about humanities, native solutions.
Woodywaarhouse dot com the pride of the Purdue Boilermakers. Bill
always a pleasure, my man. Thank you, Ron, all right,
take care, Bill a boar And again it's Woody Warehouse
dot com. And I'm serious. If you go to your
local garden center and they say, hey, we can't find
a source for good native plants, that got them Woodywarehouse
(42:27):
dot com. They service states all around the country, so
be sure and check them out. Quick break we come back.
Phone lines are open for you. What's that number. Eight
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
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eating dot com ladies and gentlemen. Let's welcome Riada, Nader,
Hike and Field. Wow. Wow, big crowd.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, mister Wilson, that was white an introduction. Have just
said here, I could.
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Have said riots here. Yeah, Danny one time. Danny one
time got me and said, that's funny you typed in
the riacht and I said, yeah, I do that all
the time, and that's the way I type it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
For some reason, that's okay. That started from day one,
and you're you're allowed to continue it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's just something about that I always type those two backwards,
and so I've always called you Riot. All right, this
is nice to have Riot on the show. So now
we all Yeah, Danny's always like we're Rio's on the line,
and he knows too, Yes he does. All right, let's
guess we got a lot to talk about today. I know,
I know, first of all, coming up in a little
over three weeks, your big day of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Hey, yeah, October the first. When that comes on, I
get very excited. I'm getting all my equipment. I was
going to say road ready, but it's really not road ready.
It's flight ready, wouldn't you say.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I would think? So, now, do you have any new
potions for this year for Halloween?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, I'm working on a couple. Would you like to
try him?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, but I know mister Hikenfeld does without knowing it.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, yeah, well we'll use him. Excuse me as the
guinea pig as always, and I'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I just think it's always interesting you get that frog
in your throat.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I know it. And you know I do radio shows
earlier than this, and I.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Don't know, but you use this, You use those frogs
in your potions, and somehow they make it in your throat.
All right, let's get started with that great recipe, your
fancy chicken and rice with olives and saffron. How do
you pronounce that?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Called a rose cone pool? However, a rose rice with chicken,
and it's a one pot dish, really really delicious. And
I know I heard Joe excuse me, he's not an
olive fan. So you could use bell peppers. But it's
an Ecuadorian dish from Latin America. And I think what
(03:36):
makes it different than the regular chicken and rice is
you use saffron. And again those all of those green
olives that are stuffed with tomento. But the main flavor
in there is the saffron. And I'm not I wouldn't
say I'm a great saffron lover. I like a little bit.
So this is a really nice dish. If you're not
(03:58):
used to saffron, have never used it. You think of pie.
My friend Bob has makes a great pie a dish
and it contains saffron, but it's we call it a spice,
but it's actually and you can explain this, it's actually
the stigma the little threads of a type of autumn crocus.
So I always just call them the little red threads.
(04:21):
So maybe you could explain stigma.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That sounds good, so we let to go into all
the all the details. Well good. Anyway, they have to
be harvested by hand in the morning, and it's it's
not the kind of crocus that we grow here. It's
a different kind, so don't try and use those for flavoring.
But it in parts a wonderful sort of a bitter flavor,
(04:45):
sort of grassy, and it colors everything just really bright yellow.
And the best saffron is the threads are really really
bright red. But here's the thing. You usually just don't
add it dry to a dish. It needs to be
put in liquid to bloom and start flavoring the liquid
and you know, releasing some of the color. But anyway,
(05:07):
I think this is a great dish. It has garlics
and onion and bay rice and chicken broth and the chicken.
I mean, it's really good and it's all in one pot.
So good for this time of year.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Now. I like green olives stuff with meimentos. I enjoy those.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I know, you know salt about any but you like
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm not a black olive fan, but I do like
stuffed green olives.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, I think one time you gave me a stuffed
olive with blue cheese or something. Yes, yeah, all right, anyway,
that's that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And by the way, you can buy the saffron bulbs
and plant those. You can't grow those in your garden.
Uh you know they are available, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
One time I tried to grow them in my Bible
portion of my garden because when you think of saffron,
it's ancient history, it's it's biblical. And I get a
few in the autumn, but not nearly enough because from
what I can understand, it takes over seventy thousands of
those threads to make a pound of dry.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's that's the point. So you plant those and you
can get them to grow, but the problem is the
harvest is nothing. I mean, you get some, but.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, not like what you're saying, not enough, not
enough to bother. Plus they're available with the store. It's
very expensive, but stored in the freezer and just it's
just something fun to use a little bit different than
your cooking.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So if you'd like to check out this recipe, go
to our website it's Ron Wilson online dot com and
check it out, you know, And it's interesting. Of course,
just about every recipe you give us has some type
of adult beverage in it. Chardonay wine in this one.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I know what you're gonna bring up next to the
sweet potato pie or the sweet potato casse role.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. Well I and then I get a text with
a friend of yours and he's holding up a pretty
good size sweet potato there.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh yeah, butcher shar their POTATOA village residents really good
friends in their garden. You would just love their their backyard.
It's like a paradise. But everything they grow grows gargantuan
and he had he was, they're growing sweet potatoes and
there are some of them are as big as footballs.
But you know, sweet potatoes are so good for you,
(07:25):
and they grow such beautiful ones. I hope they share some.
And you were talking about the sweet potato cats rule
for Thanksgiving, weren't you?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I was, yeah. And then and you said pecans.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And well I just rode back and said pecans and
brown sugar.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Brown sugar, Yeah, I think in there that's yeah, a
little butter. And then I said a little bourbon, but
you know, and then and.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Then of course you followed up by saying, yeah, and
a little bourbon.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, it's really good in there. It's it's uh, adds
flavor and it cooks long enough so the alcohol burns out,
so we're good to go.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Then why would you not well, never mind, So I
guess I could have just a shot on the side.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh but that wouldn't be right.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh, it wouldn't be flavor.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's flavor, okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know it's amazing how sweet potatoes have come along.
And I mean today folks are baking them just like
a regular baked potato anymore. And you know, it used
to be sweet potatoes is one time a year, two
times a year. Now it's something that we seem to
eat every week.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh yeah, and you know we call them yams here,
but the true yam is.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Is that's a tropical Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Completely different, yeah, completely different. But we still call sweet
potatoes jams. Yeah. I just slice them and roast them
with a little red pepper flakes and garlic and olive oil,
like sweet potato coins. Really good. But on Thanksgiving we
got to have the cast rule. I'm with you there.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know what's interesting is when they used to do
that Tamataparada up at Wilmington College where you go up
and taste all those tomatoes. They had a high tunnel
greenhouse that they were growing other experimenting with a high tunnel,
and they had an area that was about I don't know,
ten feet wide, maybe twenty feet long. It was a
it was two by eights and it was so it
(09:18):
was that deep, and then it was just a really
good soil, really nice lime salt, and that was just
strictly sweet potatoes that they grew in that box. And wow,
did they get a production in that that small an area.
I mean, that thing was loaded with sweet potatoes, nice
size too. And I guess my question is do we
want to pick sweet potatoes when they're smaller? I mean,
(09:39):
you were talking about these things that are huge. Does
it affect the flavor the bigger they get? I mean,
like you know, sometimes things start to get bitter or
crack or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, well, I think you could grow them pretty big
and you can eat them small to the flavors and nice,
but they're just there's not much there. It's like a
regular not like a little little bring white potato, you know,
the little fingerlings. I like I like a larger sized
baking potato because you can do more with it. But yeah,
but they're all edible. It's just you know, some people
(10:10):
don't want to pool with the little ones.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And you know, in our house, we always had that
volunteer to pumpkin that comes up in the I and
this year, same thing it came, although it came up
in the bed and with a small tree out in
front of this landscape bed this year. But anyway, we
got quite a few pumpkins until the squirrel started eating
them all and found them and they just destroyed them.
But we rescued about six and they were about six
(10:32):
inches in diameter. I say were because we wound up.
We did, and Carol wound up baking them and it
was and making. She used it to make Miley's dog food.
We make our own.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Dog food and you know pumpkins. Oh yeah, dogs and pumpkins. Yeah,
great nutrition.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I thought she was going to bake it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
For you, but no, no, for Miley. And it was
amazing the amount of meat that we got out of
those small pie pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, because they're pie pumpkins and their their shell isn't
so thick relevant you know, like the Jack o' Lannards
have left flesh in a sticker shell. So well, there
you go. I'm sure Miley is licking or chop now
she's gotten so picky.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You know, you get it? Oh man? Anyway, all right,
let's take a quick break. We come back. We're going
to jump out into Rita's garden find out what's going
on out there. We're talking with Rita Hikenfeld her website
about eating dot com. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson, Green.
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Talking your yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Our special guests this morning, riod Rita
Nator Hikenfelder website about eating dot com. So let's take
a walk out into the vegetable garden. Let's first stop
off at the herb garden. Things are going to seed.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, the shiso is going to see the
purple and the green, and you know that volunteers everywhere.
So I've been pulling whole plants out and then drying
the leaves, you know, just for cooking and stews, and
the flavor is really wonderful. I don't know, if you
rub a schiso plant the leaves, it smells a little
(14:53):
bit like comoon. Komen used a lot in Southwestern and
Mexican even Asian cooking, and a real pretty plant. Some
people think it looks like a purple basil, the purple.
So yeah, if you've got that, harvest those seeds, and
if they're everywhere, you can pull some of those plants
out and then just dry the leaves.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I believe that is a perilla, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, it is. Yes, it is so.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And it's different from the perilla that you plant you'll buy.
I like the mcgilla, parilla, all of those. It's it's
it's in the same family, but it's different. It's used
for culinary purposes and it's very attractive. You kind of
get dinner on a show.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But yeah, and watch how you say it, especially we've
had a few.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's a little hard to say that she show.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
There you go, she show there, you go there. You
got it, all right, And so harvest those by the way,
you know, you talk about harvesting the seeds that are
in the garden, you're gonna you're talking about the she
shows and you're talking about I know your chips are
starting to go to seed now, basil going to seed now?
What's your favorite way to store your seeds over the winter,
because I know you do a lot of that and
(16:05):
replant those next year.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you know, interestingly, so I put mine in little
the glass canning jars or like a Mayo jar. If
it's like the spider plant seeds that I have a
lot of. Some people put them in envelopes. How did
you do that when you were a kids. I just
like to make sure they're very very dry, and then
(16:29):
you know, put them in a jar and tap them
up and keep them in a place that's cool, you know,
away from light. And that's all I do. But a
lot of people still use envelopes.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I think the envelopes still work. As a matter
of fact. You know, sometimes you look at some of
the seed companies, they have those of the Manila envelopes
that they're so that the light can't get through. Ye say,
it stay's darker and they use those and then you're
right the cool dark area. And I know some people
will actually go try to store some of these things
in the refrigerator, and I'm reading more and more about
(17:04):
that's not in most cases the way to go, because
it just may stay too cold in there too. Damp
sometimes for these, So just a nice cool, dark, dryer
situation if you can find a place like that to
store them over and then go from there. And I know,
you know, you go through the process. You save tomato
seeds from your heirlooms, you actually foam them up, don't
(17:27):
you get rid of the gum around? Because I usually
just put them on paper towels.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, well, a lot of people do that, but I
like to ferment them. Put the seeds in a little
bit of water and it smells bad, so I put
them on the window sill outside and then after about
a week, you're going to see the good seeds, you know,
go to the bottom and the ones that aren't viable
will float to the top. And then I spread them
(17:52):
out make sure they're dry. But it's funny because talking
about fermentation our gorge. This year, I had given our
name some gourds and punkin seeds to plant in her garden,
and she left the bucket of seeds down in the rain,
and she was so upset. She said, they're all bubbly
and they look like they look like they're fermenting. I said,
(18:15):
that's probably a good thing, so we just threw them
in her garden and most of them came up, so
there you go. So yeah, I don't know if there's
a wrong way to do it, but yeah, gourds and punkins.
It's fun to save those seeds if you don't roast
the punkin seeds because it's expensive. As you were talking
about a little envelope, you get maybe thirty forty seeds
(18:36):
and think of a punkin. My gosh, what thousands of
seeds in there? So easy to do in fun for
the little ones.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah and some Yeah, and sometimes you get something that
you don't recognize. Oh, where a gord crossed with another
type of gourd or whatever, and you're like, what is
that thing? Which is kind I know, which is kind
of fun sometimes when you get that right, got about
a minute to go here in vest garden. Probably not
much left out there. I would imagine any tomatoes left over.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know, we're still getting some cherry tomatoes, the larger
ones that finally started to ripe, and they're all gone.
But as I told you, I just I don't have
the heart yet to pull them out. I'm stretching out
my season and I know it's time to start cleaning
up the garden. Yeah, a few potatoes. Those were in containers.
(19:27):
You'll love that. We're going for the second heart.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do you want to say that again? In containers?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I like to grow, you know, potatoes and containers are
fun for the little ones and they are easier to
get than the ground. I'll give you that. But and
the gorgon punkins, you know what we got looked pretty good.
So yeah, it's about the end of the season as
far as veggie's and that sort of thing. Looking forward
to a good fall.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Rita hiking felt always a pleasure. Her website is about
eating dot comyshare and check it out. To mister Hike
and Feld that we said a hearty hello, mister Hike.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I will do that and I'll talk to you soon again.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
All right, Rita Hikenfeld again about eating dot com. Coming
up next, build a board. We're going to talk about
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Speaker 1 (22:01):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
to talk a little bit of native plants. Love talking
about native plants, especially when we got somebody like Bill
de Boor, who is our native plant specialist. As a
matter of fact, he is the pride of the Purdue Boilermakers.
He is outspreading humanities native solutions around the world. Their
website Woody Warehouse dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, mister Bill
(22:22):
de Boor, good morning, sir. I'm you're I can barely
hear you.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Well, I guess I'll have to try to project more
for you.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
There you are, now get now we got you, and
now we got you. So good morning. How are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
On yourself?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
See you keep breaking up. I don't know if you're
on a speakerphone or there we go.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
I'll just try streaming. How about that?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
There? Now you're clear as a bell. That's kind of
unusually this this early in the morning anyway, talking about natives.
And we appreciate you coming on the show. You know
you you grace us with us some information last month.
Really do appreciate that. And of course coming back on again,
we're going to talk today about what native plants can
offer some niceness for you in the fall, including fall colors,
(23:10):
berries and maybe even flowers. And by the way, I
want to mention again. Their website is Woody warehouse dot com.
And I don't know if you've got my text or email,
but you guys were in a hurry delivering some plants
last Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, we're trucking all over the Midwest, so that is
we're always in a rush to make it delivery, get
back home for the next one.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Got to get those native plants out there and move forward.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
That's right, All right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Let's talk about what's interesting about fall for native plants.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, and I think you know, ron when we think fall,
a lot of people go first and foremost to leave color,
and obviously that's what we think of, but when we're
kind of thinking in ecological terms, native plants offer a
lot more. And so while there isn't a lot of
(24:03):
things that are flowering this time of year, the things
that are are very important to the pollinators because they
are hungry. They're looking for food and there's not a
lot around and so having those food sources is very impactful.
And then of course, when we think about migrating birds
(24:24):
and even birds that stay here year round, having food
sources as we progress into the winter is very important.
Right now, they still have a lot of insects to
forage on, but as those insects start to go away
with cold temperatures, having native seeds for the birds to
(24:45):
eat is very important.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, you know, we talk
a lot about bird feeding and using the bird feeders
and all of that, and they do well. But you know,
the bird feeders this time of the year actually kind
of slow down because the native and they want them.
They want their native netw source of food, and so
they kind of slowed down for a while. But then,
as you said, as we start to get into the
late fall and winter, obviously they'll come back to the
(25:08):
feeders more and more, but now they start counting on
those native plants to carry them through as well. So
it's a combo of the two. And I think a
lot of times we have a Tennessey to forget about
landscaping for the birds and wildlife in addition to using
the feeders.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Yeah, and I'm relieved this time of year, Ron because
my feeders aren't getting hit so much, so I'm not
watching my wallet get depleted of so much birds.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Eat, except for when the squirrels show up.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
That's true. They're always out to get me.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I swear that. Yeah, we won't get into that topic
today talk with Bill Deboor. Of course, their website is
Woody Warehouse dot com. Be sure and check it out.
So what kind of uh, let's start talking about some
of these What are some good ones as far as
providing us with good seeds and berries.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, and so you know you talked about baroque and
so any of the oaks in the white oak group
tend to be very preferential for birds and wildlife to eat.
And so having any of those white oaks, which includes
white oak, swamp, white oak, burroak. I'm probably missing a
(26:19):
few others, but those are all really good choices because
you have that high protein, high fat acorn that a
lot of wildlife will eat. From the shrub perspective, I
always go with viburnums and dogwoods at the top. The
viburnums some of the seed a little too big for
(26:41):
song birds, but arrowood viburnum, maple leaf y burnum has
a smaller group and the birds can utilize those easier.
Spice bush that's a really good one. If you have
female spice bush plants this time of year, they kind
of pseudo evergreen, waxy, bluish fruit, winterberry red not the
(27:08):
most preferential, but gives you that great color as the
season gets colder.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And don't the bird seem to hold off on that
one for a while, Like I mean, they wait a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
They really don't hit it until they're basically very hungry,
and then they say, you know, i'll go after It's
kind of like lima beans and me is I'll either
if that's all I have, not me. But the exact
same way is that the birds really they'll hit them
(27:41):
late winter when there's not a lot around, but they're
not going to be the first source that they go after.
We've got two other shrubs that are kind of flying
under the radar. One is coral berry and the other
one is snowberry. Same genus is coralberry kind of has
a few a pink seed fruit and snowberry, like its namesake,
(28:06):
is white. And so they're not highly preferred by wildlife,
but when you're kind of thinking about winter interest, those
two really pop in the landscape when they're covered with
those very colorful fruits.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You know what's interesting about both of those We learned
about those in college when I was going centuries and
centuries ago, but they were never available. Nobody ever grew
them in it. You know, it's just kind of one
of these, you know, a native plant that was out there,
and we are fortunately starting to see those show up
now more and more in the garden centers and nurseries
available for folks who use good landscape plants, you know,
(28:41):
great flower, great plant overall. And the berries are spectacular.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, I mean the shrubs themselves, they can you know,
coralberry will run and spread and so and it's not
the most you know esthetically, you know, it's a shrug
plant out there. There is really hard, hardy, durable, and
that uh, that winter color through the droops is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Oh yeah, no doubt. Can I back up for a second,
you were talking about the oaks, and uh and and
and bur ok It is my favorite of all trees.
I absolutely love that thing. And don't get hit by
one of those oaks when they fall out of there,
because it will knock you out. But you know, the
great source of food for for a lot of wildlife
out there. I am not familiar and I don't think
I can even identify a swamp chestnut oak.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah that's uh, that's a more southern species, so it's
not very common okay, But that is one that really,
you know, you look at bur oak, swamp white oak,
they're not going to wow you with their fall color.
But swamp chestnut oak, which is more southern Indiana, Kentucky,
southern Ohio maybe Okay, really has quite striking kind of
(29:53):
purple to red to almost orange at times fall color.
And so that's one that despite its namesake, does fine
in kind of mesick medium ordinary soils, but obviously can
handle slightly wetter sites as well.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Got it. Talking with Bill Deboor. He is out there,
of course, Woody Wearhouse dot Com the website. He's out
there sharing humanity's native solutions to the world, and we
appreciate all the work that he does letting folks know
about all these native plants. Let's take a quick break,
we come back. Bill's got a lot more to share
with us as we're looking at fall characteristics of these
native plants that you might want to incorporate into your landscape.
(30:32):
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Speaker 1 (32:07):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Build
the boars with us this morning spreading humanities native solutions
woodiwaarhouse dot com. You We're talking about, of course, native plants.
He is the pride of the Purdue boiler Makers who
are taking on the fighting a line e today. That
could be a tough game.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
That will be a wonderful loss to witness.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Round easy to watch Illinois lose. Say.
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Speaker 1 (32:33):
You go. Hey there all noise plants. They're pretty tough.
But yeah, good luck today, it's going to be a
good one. Anyway, Let's continue on here talking about these
native plants. And of course, you know you're talking about
the plant itself, you're talking about the fruits and berries
and seeds that these plants can provide. Obviously native plants
for our native wildlife as well as we look at
(32:55):
using these also for spectacular color. And you'd mentioned that at
the very beginning about fall color. A lot of these
plants really put on a good show.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, and I think it's important to note, you know,
as you've been talking about drought and lack of rainfall,
is that that will influence fall color. And so some
things that can have spectacular fall color can kind of
go from green to brown or green to yellow to drop.
And so unfortunately, when the plants are not getting water.
(33:27):
Their first response is, hey, let's cut off this water
loss we're having through the leaves and let's just pack
it up for the season and we'll try again next year.
So if we get some rainfall and the temperatures stay cool,
I think we'll probably have some good color with some
of these species left. I mean there are certain species
like ginko on my properties. It's already dropped. It went
(33:49):
yellow and dropped and it's done, yeah, just because of
drought stress. But other things are still green, and I
you know, we'll see what the weather has in store
for us.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, yeah, and I think, you know, we'll still get
some color out of it. But again, it's all weather.
I think we're going to get some cooler tempts next
week and maybe some rainfall. But I think in Indiana,
I was looking at your map yesterday in Ohio as well.
You know, Ohio is pretty much in a slight to
moderate drought through the entire state, and you guys are
kind of falling right along there.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Yeah, we have not We've had one significant rainfall and
what feels like a month plus, so it's uh, we're dry.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Talking with Native plants. Of course,
that would be Bill de Boor. He is our native
plant specialist. Woody Warehouse dot com is their their website.
Talk to me a little bit, and this is one
of my favorite plants and way underused in the landscape,
and that would be witch hazel.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah, that's a great one that we don't think about
in terms of fall flowering. Common witch hazel is one
that will start flowering about this time. Yellow flowers almost
kind of like a starburst, really kind of yellow flower.
And that's an important one because you'll get it through October,
(35:11):
sometimes into November, depending on microclimates and what have you.
But that's a great one to kind of add a
little zip of color and also provide something for the
pollinators as well.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And then of course we get into the common witch hazel,
and then there are hybrids as well, but we can't
consider those natives correct.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Well, that's a whole nother discussion.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I just thought i'd throw that out there for you.
I don't know if you wanted to get into that
one or not talking with Bill debor talking about native
plants obviously, and you know, we talk about the woody plants,
the trees and the shrubs that are out there and
available for you for fall colors, seeds and berries. What
about herbaceous plants, native plants for the fall season.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah, the workhorses this time of year are really the
golden rods and the Asters. When we kind of think
about landscape design, I tell people don't have that front
and center as the feature plant, because the vast majority
of the year it's not going to look like much.
But all of a sudden they explode with color in September, October,
(36:18):
and sometimes even into November. And if you walk past
any golden rod or aster right now, I dare say
you will see every flying thing just literally attached to
it like this is their bloodline. And so really important
because as I said in the beginning, there's not much
(36:40):
flowering out there, and it's dry, and so not only
do you have these pollinators that are hungry, they're thirsty,
and so there are means by some of these fall
things to try to get a little bit of sustenance.
So really important that when you're talking golden rod dominantly yellow,
(37:01):
there are some whites, and then with the asters, it's
kind of the white to the blue to pinkish hues
is what you're going to be into.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So what do you when we talk about these native plants,
what do you see out there in grasses that are
native because right now they would be supplying some flowers
obviously those plumes, and some seeds as well.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yeah, and I think a lot of times people kind
of overlook some of the grasses. I love them as
a winter interest because several of our native grasses stay
standing up throughout most of the winter, almost into early spring.
And so what we're talking about is switch grass. Little
(37:44):
blue stem, if you're looking for something it gets is
a little bigger than big blue stem is a good one.
And so you know, little blue stem in particular has
some amazing fall color, but even after the foliage is dead,
kind of having that screen of brown and just the
way they move in the wind. It is a wonderful
(38:06):
axt to kind of consider, not just from an aesthetics standpoint,
but a functional in terms of screening and doing other things.
But like you said, a lot of songbirds absolutely love
hitting the seeds off of many of these native grasses.
And so once again you can provide a food source
(38:27):
that isn't going to the store and buying a bag
of birdsuo.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Looking for a great list of all these plants, go
to their website is woodewaarhouse dot com. And again, as
I've always said, when we have Bill on our show,
if you go to your local independent garden center and
they say, you know what, we having a hard time
coming up with a source of native plants to sell
in our garden center, give him that website woodiwarehouse dot com.
Have him get in touch with Bill and he's got
a great source of native plants for them to bring
(38:53):
into their garden centers and all different sizes, but again,
great information so you can get a kind of a
list to work with.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Here.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, a few minutes left here, I got a couple
of questions for you here kind of off the we
don't I every now and then I guess somebody that says, well,
you know, we're talking about these native plants, but I
know we're talking about native vines for the area.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Yeah, that's a that's a great one. We do have
some wonderful vines. I think the asterisk mark that I
will put anytime we're talking vines is, for the most part,
they are geared towards climbing, conquering, overcoming as their main
form of growth, and so you have to think about
(39:37):
vines kind of in terms of they're going to be
aggressive and you need to make sure the spot that
you're planting it you can either maintain it, prune it back,
or you know, don't put it next to things that
it can overtake and then choke out. And so that's
kind of my cautionary tale. With that being said, you
(39:58):
know this time of year, American bittersweet that is a
dioecious vine, so there's male bearing flowers and female bearing flowers.
But that is one versus the Asianic bittersweet that is
highly ornamental. You can do decorations with it. It's a
great one, but it does climb and grab hold kind
(40:19):
of like wisteria does. We've got Virginia creeper, which you know,
you want to talk about spectacular scarlet fall color. That's
kind of like poison ivy where you're hard pressed to
find something that's more brilliant in terms of the fall color.
The female plants will bear a blue droup that songbirds love.
(40:45):
It can act like a vine, it can act like
ground cover. So a lot of you know, poison ivy
and Virginia creeper can kind of be dual purpose that way.
And then I encourage people try something like pipe vine
that flies under the rain. Are the pipe fine swallowtail
uses that as a toast plant. It's got like almost
(41:05):
a pipe shaped weird flower that looks tropical that goes
early kind of mid late spring summertime, and then huge
heart shaped leaves. And so if you've got a dead
snag or something that you just kind of say, I
want to leave it up for the woodpeckers or you
know something, but I just don't want to look at
(41:27):
this dead tree anymore, consider something like these vines like
pipe vine does a wonderful job of covering it up
and providing more functionality to a snag for you.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Again to where the website is Woody warehouse dot com.
You know, I took a class a couple of years
ago ogi aheaded or whatever gentleman was talking about native
plants from the beginning colonial days, and he was talking
about how they used to sell poison ivy seeds and
the description was beautiful vine, great flower, grape berry, great
fall color, spectacular does make you itch? I thought that
(42:02):
was kind of it.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
That's one I don't recommend for people. I'll say that.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Bill de boor he's spreading the word about humanities, native solutions.
Woodywaarhouse dot com the pride of the Purdue Boilermakers. Bill
always a pleasure, my man. Thank you, Ron, all right,
take care, Bill a boar And again it's Woody Warehouse
dot com. And I'm serious. If you go to your
local garden center and they say, hey, we can't find
a source for good native plants, that got them Woodywarehouse
(42:27):
dot com. They service states all around the country, so
be sure and check them out. Quick break we come back.
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.