October 4, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yardening as we're moving our
way through the twenty twenty five fall season. Don't forget
our website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page in
the Garden with Ron Wilson as well. Read his recipe
absolutely outstanding. Be sure check that out. A little bit
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of chicken there, uh. Planning the week is burr oak,
one of my absolute favorite trees of all trees. I
love that tree. Takes a while to get of any size,
but man, you talk about a spectacular, majestic tree down
the road. It is phenomenal. A couple postings from Buggy
Joe Boggs, including the one about box tree moth in
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Ohio found in four New Ohio counties. We've been talking
about the box tree moth on our show now for
two seasons. It's a serious situation, as I have said
in the past. And I had somebody last week say,
we got these articles about this thing, and I just
heard you mentioned something about it, and I had no idea,
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and does anybody know about this? And I said, yeah,
we're trying to make sure folks do know about it
so you can protect your boxwood. But I've been saying
starting last year that if you live east of the
Mississippi River, I'm telling you, if you've got boxwood in
your landscape, you need to keep an eye out for them.
First of all, you need to learn about the box tree.
And if you go to byg L dot OSU dot edu,
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the Beagle, Joe Boggs and staff there, they've all the
issue extension that put together some great reference sheets for
you to learn more about it, what to look for,
et cetera. This is something that the folks in Europe
and in Asia have been dealing with forever, all right,
and showed up in Canada five, six, seven years ago
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and has done a number up there. Now it's working
its way down into the United States, and I think
it's actually moving a little bit faster than we thought.
I've seen some areas where the box tree moth has
gone in subdivisions, you know, and everybody's got boxwood. But
it seems like and just one day they look great
and three to four days later they are yellow or
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I mean a beige, uh, and just destroyed. Now they
can recover from this, but nevertheless, you don't want that
to happen. So it's out there, and in Ohio we're
seeing its continue to spread, showing up in four more counties.
So I need you to learn more about it. If
you have boxwood anywhere again east of the Mississippi and
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I'm talking in the south west of the coast, I
don't care if you got boxwood, learn more about it
so you know what to look for, and then stay
in touch with your local extension, you know, to find
out you know, if it does show up in your
state or your area, so you can even be more
vigilant as far as watching for it. It can be
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you can prevent it from causing damage to your boxwood,
but it takes a combination of inspection on a regular
basis and treatment as soon as you discover it and
again learn more about it. That's the biggest thing. Print
amount they've got. As a matter of fact, they've got
three different sheets for you at the Beagle byg L
dot OSU, dot EU which would apply to no matter
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where you are in the United States. You know that's
the information you need to know, so be sure and
learn more about it. You know we are experiencing drought
in the Midwest. I can't express enough how important it
is to water newly planted tree, shrubs, evergreens especially and
established as well. They are just as dry as those
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newly planted trees and shrubs are. Protect your investment. If
your water bill goes up one hundred bucks a month,
so be it. That's cheaper than having to take down
trees and evergreens and try to replace the larger mature
ones doesn't work. Stay with your watering. As we continue
to cool down going into the fall season, it doesn't
evaporate quite as quickly. It sticks with the soil a
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little bit longer. But stick with it. I'm telling you,
stick with it. Falls a great time for planting. You're
gonna have to water a little bit, but again, take
advantage of the great planting season. But if it is
dry in your area, continue to water. And we are
seeing leaves that are dropping prematurely, not because of the
fall season. As they continue to drop, just mow them
back into your turf. Don't worry about collecting them up.
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Mow them back into the turf and go from there.
And by the way, speaking about the evergreens and the
water boy, am I getting a bunch of emails right
now with folks, especially with arbor vity that have either
been planted recently this year, last year, or had them
for a while. And this happens every year, but when
we get into dry situations it happens even more. Where
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you know, the outside of the arborvitie look great, they're
nice and green, but as I pull them open, they
are yellow and brown on the inside, and people are
in a panic. And of course the thing is is
this normal? Is this supposed to happen right now? As
a matter of fact, I have one this week they
said that the hedge has been about five it's about
five years old, so fairly well established. But just noticing
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this change and never notice to that extreme, And yes,
that is it normal? Yes, evergreens, most evergreens go through
a natural inner needle shedding process in the fall. Just
like trees lose some leaves, they do an inner needle shedding.
Spruce may hang on onto three or four years worth
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of needles and shed everything from that point inside. Some
pines will lose everything except for this year's growth. Arbrovity
will lose everything to the inside, usually two years or
three years of growth back in. But when they do
that and the whole inside of that thing turns yellow
and brown, it can be pretty scary. You see pines
like white pine and also those needles turn yellow the
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whole inside of the plant. It scares you to death. Well,
that's a natural shedding. As long as it does go
to the end of the branches, you should be good
to go. But it's also telling you, but it's an
extreme that it's stressed a little bit. So make sure
you're keeping up with the watering. Very very important as
we go through the fall and into the winter season,
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especially with evergreens, to keep them well watered, very very important.
So please stick with it as best you can. And
it's again count on rain unless it's an all day soaker,
rains that come to your area as a bonus to
your watering, as a bonus to what you are doing,
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all right. Also want to remind everybody if you have
a lot of deer in your area and you've had
deer issues in the past, you need to be getting
one of those deer repellents. Try to keep them moving on. Remember,
use your deer repellants wisely, go out to the edges
of the property. Try to get them moving onto the
neighbor's yard. Then come into the yard and protect. You
use your repellents around your more specimen plants that you
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want to try to protect as from the deer. But
start from the outside and work your way in. And
of course, if you've got newly planted trees, make sure
you have tree trunk protectors so that those buck deer
don't come in and rub those trees, which they are
doing like crazy right now. Protect those smaller trees. And
remember deer repellents, they all work, and you need to
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mix it up and change it up and refreshing it up.
More often than what they say on the label, I
think is a key is frushing it. But again, for
some plants, physical barriers are the answer. Somebody emailed me
a couple of weeks ago and said, we planted this
row of forget what variety of the arborviety Western arbrovidy
don't seem to be browsed on as much as other
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selections by deer, but they're already starting to browse on
their arborvidy. What can we use? Well, the first thing
I said was, you know, the first reaction, get out
there with a water soluble deer repellent, liquid fence bobex
repels all and spray them to start there. Maybe use
a a deer scram or milorganite around the base. Just
start with your repellents first and see if it moves
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them on. If it doesn't, and in situations where there's
high populations or they're really hungry, they'll go through those repellents.
And if it doesn't seem to slow it down, you
may have to get involved with the metal fence posts
with a couple strands of wire and create this. It's
not invasive, you know, you don't really notice it that much,
but start creating some type of a physical barrier around
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something like that to protect them over through the fall winter.
You can take it down first of April and you're
good to go. But again, get on those now. Start
protecting the deer brows will really start to increase as
we continue to get it into the fall season. Before
we take a break at Doo the Home Improvement, let's
go down and roll tide with Harold.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, All.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Right, here we go you ready? We love you? Harold?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Okay, do you feel better?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You feel better now?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, I'm feeling better now because Gary said at the
end of his show says, I love that, Harold.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I know, I know. We try to be, we try
to be. You know what I did. I printed this
out because I saw when you guys sing, uh my
Dixie Land Delight. Yes, spend my dollar on what uh
(09:56):
beer beer?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Okay, good, well s, I got the best thing to
spend a dollar up.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
There you go, all right? Anyway, I picked it all.
I wrote that out so I can style singing that
along with when I see that at.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Third in the third quarter night.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yes, I just asked me.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know, I thought I would never say this. I'm
scared to death of Anderwald.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hey, you never know.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You found out last year.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You never know. Look at last year.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's right, Yes, sir, number one ranked team in the nation.
You got that. But get okay, let's do let's do
some business. My Amaryllis bulbs are in the garage. There's
still that long green foliage. It off that back or
just let heay, okay, perfect and don't water.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Right, that's exactly right. Let them just sit there, no water,
no foliage. Six weeks minimum.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We've been in there two weeks.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Cool and dark okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, next thing I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give them
the nick Saban tip on watering arbi vida. I take
a gallon jug or he takes a gallon jug, knocks
a little small nail hole in the bottom. Yeah, fill
it up, put it at the root base. Take it
about twenty minutes to give a nice good soaking down.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
To that root ball.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's a nick Saban.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's a nick Saban rule of a watering arbivided.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I like it. Tell Nick we appreciate the tip. Hey,
do me, I will do me a favor. Yeah, coming
up here, when we're starting to put our lawn furniture
away and stuff. On a serious note, let's talk about
how to win arize your lawn furniture.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Look, that's perfect. I'll get with you this week. We'll
get a Saturday morning. We can get that done. That
That is very important today.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
By the way, it is, I'm being serious.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I am too, especially in your winters down here, not
as much, but your winners. Yeah, you definitely want to
store the correct way. Yeah, I'll get with you this week.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Okay, and we'll get you.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You pick a Saturday. We'll spend twenty minute's talking about it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay, And see Gary Sulivan never asked you to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
No he no starting start thing. Maybe Gary doesn't love me.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
See there you go. Hey, roll time. I hope you
do well today.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Thank you bugs?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
He give buggy Joe my love.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You got it? See all right? Quick break we come
back a little home improving from the manda ment the legend.
Mister Gary Sullivan here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Not gardening questions. Ron has the answers and one eight
hundred and eighty two three talk. You're in the garden
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Speaker 1 (14:59):
Welcome back in the Garden with Ron Wilson is time
for the man, the myth, the legend he most listened to,
home improvement show host and the entire solar system his website,
Garysullivan Online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the only, Garysulliber.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
And mister Wilson, are you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm all right? I wish it range well, maybe tomorrow
and Sunday night too. Monday. Maybe, I don't know. They're
talking a little bit about that. By the way, I
got the official kickoff of the notifications this week of
one of the plant growers grant plant breeders out there,
plant the brands pairing their plants with the plant paint
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color of the years. Dutch Boys, melodious, ivory.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
You know what, I've seen two of them so far. Okay,
I can't tell you which ones they were, though, I
forget because as you and I have talked about the
last probably ten years, everybody has one, now, yes, and
so yours was an ivory? What is melodius Ivory's.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
It's a neutral, creamy beige. Now would you call that crage?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Didn't you call it gray?
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Coffee, creamer? More gray?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It just conveys warmth and calm gary.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Yeah, So I saw one it was almost a hazel
nut color. I forget what the name of it was.
And then the other one I saw was a green.
That's now you've got an ivory.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Thou spar has a warm eucalyptus, Yeah, soothing green hummes.
And then Glinton is there warm mahogany, a deep burnt
red yea richest and versatility. But point being is the
the plant companies are now carrying all these plants that
match the colors of the year. Right, of course, you'd
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have to buy two hundred different plants to match all
the different colors of the year.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Yeah, well, yeah, you know, we'll have something of the year.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
What do you think you and I? Yeah, we should should.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Have our color of the year and your plan of
the year.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Isn't it interesting? The pantone there hasn't thet.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
No, they're probably sorry they ever started this. Probably so
it's like every marketing person's idea. He said, we need
to have a color of the year. We'll get free publicity.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Whose idea was this?
Speaker 7 (17:26):
And yeah, Panton's I kind of put some stock in Well, yeah,
a lot of research goes behind all that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That used to be fun.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
I'm guessing that the paint companies go like, I just
really like this color. Yeah, you know, whoever would be
the color person.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well you got you got calming to exciting, burnt richness.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Come on, it's not even a theme anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, come on, you're all over the board here.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
That's exactly right. Man. Do we sound like a paradrumpy
old men?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Don't you love it? We should be on the We
earned it, yeah, the muppets. Yeah, me sitting up there
on the about.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
On the balcony.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So are you water and you're turning the irrigation system
on a little bit.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, but I have watered. I have watered,
and I haven't watered enough. Yeah, that little strip between
the sidewalk and driveway about twenty minutes, which probably isn't
long enough. Three times a week, which probably isn't long enough.
That's all it's getting.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But it's hanging in there.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's a well it's not grayish.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right, but it's grenge grange.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
It's beige and green grenge grenge.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
That's my color of.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The ear, grenge, bamboo green. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Green? B grenge?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
What are you gonna What are you gonna talk about today?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Well, obviously not that, since the crickets are singing to us. Yeah, ron,
I got so much to talk about. We can go
intos and talk about insulations, slow moving drains, we can
go outside talk about the chimney in the front door.
What do you think I think you to talk?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Of course, your priority is answering questions, and you get
a lot of them. Yes, I do, all over the board,
but I know you try to put those tips in
there in between.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Oh yeah, yeah. So I don't know where we're gonna
go today. I don't know whether you go inside or outside.
But I got tons of tips to share and hopefully
lots of calls to kind of work some problems out.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Pretty good weather yet for a couple three days and
then cool next week.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
That'll feel good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That'll get you feel good. You got it, Gary Solivon,
have a great show. You Thank you very much, as
you always do. Garysullivan online dot com. Coming up next,
Buggy Joe bug Here in the garden with Run Wilson.
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and
as I promise, yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is time
for the Buggy. Joe bog deports Joe Boggs. It's just
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Speaker 4 (22:14):
Hello Joe, Hello, I have a lot to say I
have there.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What guess who I've been texting with this morning?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
From Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Not not the funnel web what Sydney's funnel web spiders.
I mean, yeah, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That he's out and he's in Australia listening to the show.
He's back in his room. It's the evening. He's had dinner,
a few drinks, chilling out for the evening and he's
listening to the show right now.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And Ron, the picture you show me looks like he's
having a good time.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And he's having a good time.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, he's sharing pictures.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Well that's good.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, if he's sharing pictures, he's not having a good time.
Now think about that taking time to take pictures. You've
got to get out there and just enjoy. Look for
those funnel web spiders, look for those crate snakes, you know.
I mean, what did I hear the other day someone said,
if it's not going to bite you and kill you
at Leach in Australia, something like that, right works. It
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is an incredible continent all to himself, right you know.
And they do have and they I mean everything from ants.
They have a tremendously mandibled ant there that has you know,
like it's measured one of the highest toxins of any
insect in the world in its sting, not its bite,
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has big mandibles, but in a thing. Yeah great, yeah,
like I want to go there now.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I hope Ron, I hope Ron's listening so he can
protect himself.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm hoping that he just
you know, of course, what the heck, Ron, that's having fun.
I mean, you know, getting out there, you know, turning
over rocks, getting this an yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean,
you know famous last words. You know, look at this?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Is that an ant?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, that's a snake. Oh no. Anyway, I got a
couple of things for you.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I like your posting the bagworm posting this week about
parasitoid and connecting the dots and all of that. My
question is the the backrooms that you plucked off of
the juniper that have all the berries attached. You think
they were using those for like making gin or anything.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
A little little bag worms, And I often wonder that, Yeah,
they you know a little flavor there, you know, to
go with the to go with the green.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
There's an awful there's an awful lot of berries attached
to those bags.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, I'll tell you. It was almost as though they
just set out to do that and I will come clean.
Those are on my junipers, which is just oh yeah
they were.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You want them to grow there so you could do
what you just do.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, okay, that that's my story. I appreciate that. Ron,
that's my story. I'm gonna start sticking to it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You never noticed them, but yeah, yeah, yes, that's what
I That's what I told my wife.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, you don't tell her. I said that right right now,
so I don't have to worry about that. That's right,
that's exactly right. Yes, it's just between you and me,
you know, they say, and the gate posts. Who I
have to roll that in?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know? I used to on the somebody was talking
about this kid that waived the traffic when I in Indiana,
and I'm gonna I'm going to confess this. At the
end of our driveway we lived out in the farm
in the country. Huge fence post at the very end,
which you always did, had a great big fence post
to hold support everything.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was right, It was probably both.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, it was like the size of a tree. I
would go out there after I got home from school
and did stuff. I'd go out there and sit on
that fence post and wave the cars that drove by.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Well that I mean, look, I hear that, and I
have seen that growing up. I mean I hear that.
It kind of you know, kind of expressed in a
in a in a derogatory way, let's be awesome. Oh yeah,
but no, that's what we did. I mean, you know,
I waved the cars. Of course, our farm in West Virginia,
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there would be like a car a day. So I
came out.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We were on four twenty one, so it was a
major you know, two way road.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I was sat out there and waved it. And I
knew half the people anyway would driving by, or neighbors
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I enjoyed that for an hour or so, just sitting
there waving. Anyway. I don't know how that came up,
but somebody.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
No, there's there's a perfect segue because we're gonna talk
about something we've talked about before. We're gonna bring the importance.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
No waving.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
It's it's it's re rear end. We'll talk about that again.
But anyway, I mean the wave. You really set us
up a great seg Thank you so much. But your
second thing you said you had another thing.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Uh, Joe Strucker just came back from Florida.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Everybody is going.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
You and I go to National Indiana.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
And nationale Ghoshen, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I loved it, though, I enjoyed it. But he was
down there and he said they had they got it
many times with the love bug.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Yes, yes, you know that is that is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I don't know if he was talking about his date
or but no, he was. He said the love bug
and he said they were everywhere and then he said
they were nasty. And I didn't know anything about them until.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I, yeah, until you look into well.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He looked he looked it up to you mean like Herbie,
but yeah, like Kirby.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, I forgot about that boy.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I'll tell you what was his number?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Twenty nine two three. I don't know anyway, but I
found out that was a fly actually a fly.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's the male that hangs on after their mating and
flies around with her. And uh, but they're high in
they're very a city.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
They are they are you know, it's it's really interesting.
They now this is this is kind of interesting that
there are two different times. And I might have this wrong.
It's been a while I've talked about love bugs, but
I think that we have a spring, and I think
we do have a foll emergence. I'm pretty sure about that.
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So it's sort of it's one of those deals where
if you go down in the winter, you may miss it.
If you're down there in the summer, you may miss it.
But if you go down there in the spring, which
you know, again that's not you know, that's a time
of year. Some people people do travel, you know, to Florida,
but but not a lot. I mean, I would say
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more in the summer. When you agree, I mean it's
a little bit more. You know, maybe one school that's
I suppose in the spring. But the point being is
that people people tend to miss these insects because just
when they're vacationing in Florida. And it's not just Florida,
Louisiana and Mississippi, the Gulf Coast, even over in the Texas.
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But it's a it's a really fascinating insect. Just like
you know where I'm heading with this. Just you mentioned
Port Clinton, just like mayfly.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh yeah, we had we had some up there. We
were there.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, Now wait when were you up there?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
This is interesting in the August.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Now that is really interesting because we were up there.
Uh well, it was all the way back in June.
And my wife actually, for some odd reason, doesn't like
may flies. I mean that's just you know, opposite's a track, right,
so she's not a big fan.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'm with your wife then, because I'm not too crazy
about him either. Did I tell you that story about
those We were in Port Clinton and it was the
morning we were leaving and we pulled in some building there.
My wife had to go get something out of one
of the shops here. But anyway, the barn swallows were
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like flying against the wall.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
My goodness.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So like they were hanging on to the side of
the wall, flying horizontally flat up against the wall. And
what they were doing were eating the mayflies off the
side of the wall.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
And when you watch him, yeah, yeah, they're just like,
well Hoover vacuum.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It was great. And they just worked across the wall,
just eating those things up.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I just and that. And then of course as they
go up, eventually he gets so heavy they.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Just dropped and they just like. Carol got in the
car and was like, what are you doing? So, what's
what's those watch those barn swallows. Look what they're doing. Like,
let's go listen, so anyway, so we'll.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
See that that's no, no, that is that's the reason
why I think may flies are are so fascinating. And
of course we're gonna leave everyby hanging because I'm looking
and I'm thinking there must be a break sometime soon.
I want to don't want to launch into a new
new story.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
It may be. It may be, So let's make this mate,
this go ahead, and may take a break and then
fly back into what we're talking about at the end
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Speaker 1 (33:45):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
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In the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time for part two
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Speaker 4 (34:06):
Well So the reason that I really appreciate mayflies goes
all the way back to something that you know, I
almost hate to mention it these days, although it comes
up every so often, the Cuyahoga River catching fire. I
hate to mention it because that river and Lake Erie
itself has undergone a huge cleanup over the years. When
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you and I are very young, you know, that's when
that happened. I mean, there was so much oils and gases,
you know, gasoline and just all kinds of different materials
that could catch fire, that would leak into the river.
And of course the rest is history. So it got
so bad, and it was not just one time. Well
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at the same time, run various entomologists, including those at
Ohio State University and their research center of their own
Gibraltar Island, which is not far from put In Bay
and Port Clinton. It's just out in the water a
short distance. They started documenting, you know, basically, you know,
the death of Lake Erie. There's another way of putting it.
(35:12):
And it was pretty grim. You know, if you go
back and look at some of the papers published in
the sixties and and even early seventies, it was, oh
my gosh, you know, this is not a good thing.
And of course aside from just you know, the beauty
and all the different purposes that we go to Lake
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to Lake Erie and the Great Lakes in general, you know,
source of drinking water for a lot of communities. So
this did not look good. One of the measures of
the pollution were mayflies. They're very sensitive to extremely sensitive
to different different contaminants, in fact, a lot of contaminants.
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And there was an entomologist at Ohio State that he started,
as I recall, and I could have this wrong, but
I believe he started very early in his career, of
not during grad school. He would just every year go
up and take measurements of the of the immature may flies,
you know, those that are in the water, which we
tend to forget. This insect spends actually most of his
(36:19):
time underwater, just like our periodical cicadas spend most of
their time below ground. There's a connection I'm going to
make here in a second. Actually I'll just make it
right now. Both of these insects rely on emerging with
such in such large numbers, the reproductive stages emerging, the
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adults emerging in such large numbers they overwhelm the predators,
the barn swallows and geese and so on and so forth
in the case of cicadas, and that's called predator satiation.
So that's the strategy. But back to the death of
Lake Erie, So the lake was being monitored. Flies were
(37:00):
a key indicator organism and it, like I saidn it
looks very grim. You can I still have and you
can find. Of course, that's the nice thing about scientific publications.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
They don't go away.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
You can go back and refer to them, and that's
and it's very interesting reading.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Well.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Once a very concerted effort began to be made to
clean up Lake Erie, and actually to clean up the
lakes in general. There was other problems, not just with
Lake Erie, but a concerted effort to clean up the
first indicator of a healthy lake. Guess what we're what
increased populations exactly exactly. And I have to tell you
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the comeback has been remarkable because there are many different
species of mayflies and they emerge sometimes pretty close together sometimes.
And by the way, it's called a hatch. And you
know we've talked about this before. It's not a hatch really,
it just called a hatch, but we reserve that for
hatching from eggs. Okay, it's the emergence of the adults
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from the lakes, and they lack mouth parts. They only
last twenty four to forty eight hours. Their sole purpose
is to emerge and mate, and the females to lay eggs.
But the point being is it's also very interesting in
that the different species were being affected in much the
same way, but some more than others. And over time
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we've seen the re emergence of multiple species in Lake
Erie and that's that's why I look at them as
being just a remarkable insect. They indicate that that lake
is clean. We have some emergence along the Ohio River,
as you know, not quite as much as there's a
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river in Pennsylvania as Susquehanna can have huge, huge emergence.
Wherever we see may flies emerging, you know, that means
that we have water that will support the immatures, and
of course those immatures also feed fish, and that's the
kind of we make a big circle of life. Will
(39:10):
start singing here in a second. So the immatures, which
in the water we call them naiads, the immatures for
an aquatic insect. They feed fish and other organisms. Of course,
once the adults emerge, that predator satiation kicks in, and
it is amazing too how many things do well with mayfi.
(39:33):
So then the literature is now telling us that after
these different emergencies of adults, we start seeing increases and
more successful population rise in different birds and different predators
that depend on see I'm heading.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We've seen.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I mean, it's no accident that some of the fish
that we really love to eat out of Lake Erie
also our fish that prey on the immature may fi.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
So they're very important. Walleyes, yeah, I'm sorry, Walleye.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Oh wileye am boy, I tell you I love them both,
Walleye and lake Perch. Oh yeah, my goodness, yes, they're
both fantastic. So how did we get all love bugs?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
It started from love bugs. I mean that's the way
this whole this whole segment always goes. Starts from love
bugs to uh, mayflies and barnswallows eat them off the
side of a building.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
All right.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
So I'm going to be running out of time, but
I did have I'm going to be posting about the
boogie woogie ephors this up coming week. Uh you know,
they've been with us for a long time. But boy,
I'll tell you, populations are very high. Right now, and
they're just kind of fun. We also have a mystery
ephit occurring on the American ELM right now. And uh,
I don't know if you've gotten reports. We have had
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reports all throughout well from Central Ohio. I have to
have pictures these aphids coming to American ELM in huge numbers.
When you see the pictures, they just almost looks like
early Halloween. H Now, we're trying, we're trying to run
down exactly what's happening there. We suspect I don't want
(41:16):
to go too far here, but about the only aphid
that has a very strong relationship with American ELM at
this time of the year is one that you and
I talked about by email, the Wooly Apple aphed Really
how'd you like that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
I like that big circle.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Yes, So so we think we're thinking we're heading in
that direction. But you know, Ron, we're just now relearning
about what, you know, the different things that can come
to American ELM. When I say relearning, thinking about it,
you know, we lost the American ALMS, so we're relearning
what happened. So we'll talk more about that next week.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Okay, I appreciate it. Hey, Joe, always a pleasure. Great
information be one gl dot O s U dot ed
uh any idea any recommendations on getting rid of gophers?
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Move no gophers?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Minnesota, Minnesota, Joe, Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
I know, I know, I just yeah. You send buck eyes.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
After there you go, buck guys at them go by.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
There you go go buck All.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yardening as we're moving our
way through the twenty twenty five fall season. Don't forget
our website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page in
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absolutely outstanding. Be sure check that out. A little bit
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of chicken there, uh. Planning the week is burr oak,
one of my absolute favorite trees of all trees. I
love that tree. Takes a while to get of any size,
but man, you talk about a spectacular, majestic tree down
the road. It is phenomenal. A couple postings from Buggy
Joe Boggs, including the one about box tree moth in
(01:20):
Ohio found in four New Ohio counties. We've been talking
about the box tree moth on our show now for
two seasons. It's a serious situation, as I have said
in the past. And I had somebody last week say,
we got these articles about this thing, and I just
heard you mentioned something about it, and I had no idea,
(01:41):
and does anybody know about this? And I said, yeah,
we're trying to make sure folks do know about it
so you can protect your boxwood. But I've been saying
starting last year that if you live east of the
Mississippi River, I'm telling you, if you've got boxwood in
your landscape, you need to keep an eye out for them.
First of all, you need to learn about the box tree.
And if you go to byg L dot OSU dot edu,
(02:04):
the Beagle, Joe Boggs and staff there, they've all the
issue extension that put together some great reference sheets for
you to learn more about it, what to look for,
et cetera. This is something that the folks in Europe
and in Asia have been dealing with forever, all right,
and showed up in Canada five, six, seven years ago
(02:25):
and has done a number up there. Now it's working
its way down into the United States, and I think
it's actually moving a little bit faster than we thought.
I've seen some areas where the box tree moth has
gone in subdivisions, you know, and everybody's got boxwood. But
it seems like and just one day they look great
and three to four days later they are yellow or
(02:45):
I mean a beige, uh, and just destroyed. Now they
can recover from this, but nevertheless, you don't want that
to happen. So it's out there, and in Ohio we're
seeing its continue to spread, showing up in four more counties.
So I need you to learn more about it. If
you have boxwood anywhere again east of the Mississippi and
(03:08):
I'm talking in the south west of the coast, I
don't care if you got boxwood, learn more about it
so you know what to look for, and then stay
in touch with your local extension, you know, to find
out you know, if it does show up in your
state or your area, so you can even be more
vigilant as far as watching for it. It can be
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you can prevent it from causing damage to your boxwood,
but it takes a combination of inspection on a regular
basis and treatment as soon as you discover it and
again learn more about it. That's the biggest thing. Print
amount they've got. As a matter of fact, they've got
three different sheets for you at the Beagle byg L
dot OSU, dot EU which would apply to no matter
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where you are in the United States. You know that's
the information you need to know, so be sure and
learn more about it. You know we are experiencing drought
in the Midwest. I can't express enough how important it
is to water newly planted tree, shrubs, evergreens especially and
established as well. They are just as dry as those
(04:10):
newly planted trees and shrubs are. Protect your investment. If
your water bill goes up one hundred bucks a month,
so be it. That's cheaper than having to take down
trees and evergreens and try to replace the larger mature
ones doesn't work. Stay with your watering. As we continue
to cool down going into the fall season, it doesn't
evaporate quite as quickly. It sticks with the soil a
(04:32):
little bit longer. But stick with it. I'm telling you,
stick with it. Falls a great time for planting. You're
gonna have to water a little bit, but again, take
advantage of the great planting season. But if it is
dry in your area, continue to water. And we are
seeing leaves that are dropping prematurely, not because of the
fall season. As they continue to drop, just mow them
back into your turf. Don't worry about collecting them up.
(04:55):
Mow them back into the turf and go from there.
And by the way, speaking about the evergreens and the
water boy, am I getting a bunch of emails right
now with folks, especially with arbor vity that have either
been planted recently this year, last year, or had them
for a while. And this happens every year, but when
we get into dry situations it happens even more. Where
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you know, the outside of the arborvitie look great, they're
nice and green, but as I pull them open, they
are yellow and brown on the inside, and people are
in a panic. And of course the thing is is
this normal? Is this supposed to happen right now? As
a matter of fact, I have one this week they
said that the hedge has been about five it's about
five years old, so fairly well established. But just noticing
(05:40):
this change and never notice to that extreme, And yes,
that is it normal? Yes, evergreens, most evergreens go through
a natural inner needle shedding process in the fall. Just
like trees lose some leaves, they do an inner needle shedding.
Spruce may hang on onto three or four years worth
(06:01):
of needles and shed everything from that point inside. Some
pines will lose everything except for this year's growth. Arbrovity
will lose everything to the inside, usually two years or
three years of growth back in. But when they do
that and the whole inside of that thing turns yellow
and brown, it can be pretty scary. You see pines
like white pine and also those needles turn yellow the
(06:25):
whole inside of the plant. It scares you to death. Well,
that's a natural shedding. As long as it does go
to the end of the branches, you should be good
to go. But it's also telling you, but it's an
extreme that it's stressed a little bit. So make sure
you're keeping up with the watering. Very very important as
we go through the fall and into the winter season,
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especially with evergreens, to keep them well watered, very very important.
So please stick with it as best you can. And
it's again count on rain unless it's an all day soaker,
rains that come to your area as a bonus to
your watering, as a bonus to what you are doing,
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all right. Also want to remind everybody if you have
a lot of deer in your area and you've had
deer issues in the past, you need to be getting
one of those deer repellents. Try to keep them moving on. Remember,
use your deer repellants wisely, go out to the edges
of the property. Try to get them moving onto the
neighbor's yard. Then come into the yard and protect. You
use your repellents around your more specimen plants that you
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want to try to protect as from the deer. But
start from the outside and work your way in. And
of course, if you've got newly planted trees, make sure
you have tree trunk protectors so that those buck deer
don't come in and rub those trees, which they are
doing like crazy right now. Protect those smaller trees. And
remember deer repellents, they all work, and you need to
(07:51):
mix it up and change it up and refreshing it up.
More often than what they say on the label, I
think is a key is frushing it. But again, for
some plants, physical barriers are the answer. Somebody emailed me
a couple of weeks ago and said, we planted this
row of forget what variety of the arborviety Western arbrovidy
don't seem to be browsed on as much as other
(08:12):
selections by deer, but they're already starting to browse on
their arborvidy. What can we use? Well, the first thing
I said was, you know, the first reaction, get out
there with a water soluble deer repellent, liquid fence bobex
repels all and spray them to start there. Maybe use
a a deer scram or milorganite around the base. Just
start with your repellents first and see if it moves
(08:34):
them on. If it doesn't, and in situations where there's
high populations or they're really hungry, they'll go through those repellents.
And if it doesn't seem to slow it down, you
may have to get involved with the metal fence posts
with a couple strands of wire and create this. It's
not invasive, you know, you don't really notice it that much,
but start creating some type of a physical barrier around
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something like that to protect them over through the fall winter.
You can take it down first of April and you're
good to go. But again, get on those now. Start
protecting the deer brows will really start to increase as
we continue to get it into the fall season. Before
we take a break at Doo the Home Improvement, let's
go down and roll tide with Harold.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, All.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Right, here we go you ready? We love you? Harold?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Okay, do you feel better?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You feel better now?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, I'm feeling better now because Gary said at the
end of his show says, I love that, Harold.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I know, I know. We try to be, we try
to be. You know what I did. I printed this
out because I saw when you guys sing, uh my
Dixie Land Delight. Yes, spend my dollar on what uh
(09:56):
beer beer?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Okay, good, well s, I got the best thing to
spend a dollar up.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
There you go, all right? Anyway, I picked it all.
I wrote that out so I can style singing that
along with when I see that at.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Third in the third quarter night.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yes, I just asked me.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know, I thought I would never say this. I'm
scared to death of Anderwald.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hey, you never know.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You found out last year.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You never know. Look at last year.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's right, Yes, sir, number one ranked team in the nation.
You got that. But get okay, let's do let's do
some business. My Amaryllis bulbs are in the garage. There's
still that long green foliage. It off that back or
just let heay, okay, perfect and don't water.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Right, that's exactly right. Let them just sit there, no water,
no foliage. Six weeks minimum.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We've been in there two weeks.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Cool and dark okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, next thing I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give them
the nick Saban tip on watering arbi vida. I take
a gallon jug or he takes a gallon jug, knocks
a little small nail hole in the bottom. Yeah, fill
it up, put it at the root base. Take it
about twenty minutes to give a nice good soaking down.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
To that root ball.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's a nick Saban.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's a nick Saban rule of a watering arbivided.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I like it. Tell Nick we appreciate the tip. Hey,
do me, I will do me a favor. Yeah, coming
up here, when we're starting to put our lawn furniture
away and stuff. On a serious note, let's talk about
how to win arize your lawn furniture.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Look, that's perfect. I'll get with you this week. We'll
get a Saturday morning. We can get that done. That
That is very important today.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
By the way, it is, I'm being serious.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I am too, especially in your winters down here, not
as much, but your winners. Yeah, you definitely want to
store the correct way. Yeah, I'll get with you this week.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Okay, and we'll get you.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You pick a Saturday. We'll spend twenty minute's talking about it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay, And see Gary Sulivan never asked you to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
No he no starting start thing. Maybe Gary doesn't love me.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
See there you go. Hey, roll time. I hope you
do well today.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Thank you bugs?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
He give buggy Joe my love.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You got it? See all right? Quick break we come
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Speaker 1 (14:59):
Welcome back in the Garden with Ron Wilson is time
for the man, the myth, the legend he most listened to,
home improvement show host and the entire solar system his website,
Garysullivan Online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the only, Garysulliber.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
And mister Wilson, are you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm all right? I wish it range well, maybe tomorrow
and Sunday night too. Monday. Maybe, I don't know. They're
talking a little bit about that. By the way, I
got the official kickoff of the notifications this week of
one of the plant growers grant plant breeders out there,
plant the brands pairing their plants with the plant paint
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color of the years. Dutch Boys, melodious, ivory.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
You know what, I've seen two of them so far. Okay,
I can't tell you which ones they were, though, I
forget because as you and I have talked about the
last probably ten years, everybody has one, now, yes, and
so yours was an ivory? What is melodius Ivory's.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
It's a neutral, creamy beige. Now would you call that crage?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Didn't you call it gray?
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Coffee, creamer? More gray?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It just conveys warmth and calm gary.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Yeah, So I saw one it was almost a hazel
nut color. I forget what the name of it was.
And then the other one I saw was a green.
That's now you've got an ivory.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Thou spar has a warm eucalyptus, Yeah, soothing green hummes.
And then Glinton is there warm mahogany, a deep burnt
red yea richest and versatility. But point being is the
the plant companies are now carrying all these plants that
match the colors of the year. Right, of course, you'd
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have to buy two hundred different plants to match all
the different colors of the year.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Yeah, well, yeah, you know, we'll have something of the year.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
What do you think you and I? Yeah, we should should.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Have our color of the year and your plan of
the year.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Isn't it interesting? The pantone there hasn't thet.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
No, they're probably sorry they ever started this. Probably so
it's like every marketing person's idea. He said, we need
to have a color of the year. We'll get free publicity.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Whose idea was this?
Speaker 7 (17:26):
And yeah, Panton's I kind of put some stock in Well, yeah,
a lot of research goes behind all that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That used to be fun.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
I'm guessing that the paint companies go like, I just
really like this color. Yeah, you know, whoever would be
the color person.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well you got you got calming to exciting, burnt richness.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Come on, it's not even a theme anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, come on, you're all over the board here.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
That's exactly right. Man. Do we sound like a paradrumpy
old men?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Don't you love it? We should be on the We
earned it, yeah, the muppets. Yeah, me sitting up there
on the about.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
On the balcony.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So are you water and you're turning the irrigation system
on a little bit.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, but I have watered. I have watered,
and I haven't watered enough. Yeah, that little strip between
the sidewalk and driveway about twenty minutes, which probably isn't
long enough. Three times a week, which probably isn't long enough.
That's all it's getting.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But it's hanging in there.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's a well it's not grayish.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right, but it's grenge grange.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
It's beige and green grenge grenge.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
That's my color of.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The ear, grenge, bamboo green. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Green? B grenge?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
What are you gonna What are you gonna talk about today?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Well, obviously not that, since the crickets are singing to us. Yeah, ron,
I got so much to talk about. We can go
intos and talk about insulations, slow moving drains, we can
go outside talk about the chimney in the front door.
What do you think I think you to talk?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Of course, your priority is answering questions, and you get
a lot of them. Yes, I do, all over the board,
but I know you try to put those tips in
there in between.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Oh yeah, yeah. So I don't know where we're gonna
go today. I don't know whether you go inside or outside.
But I got tons of tips to share and hopefully
lots of calls to kind of work some problems out.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Pretty good weather yet for a couple three days and
then cool next week.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
That'll feel good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That'll get you feel good. You got it, Gary Solivon,
have a great show. You Thank you very much, as
you always do. Garysullivan online dot com. Coming up next,
Buggy Joe bug Here in the garden with Run Wilson.
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as I promise, yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is time
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Speaker 4 (22:14):
Hello Joe, Hello, I have a lot to say I
have there.
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What guess who I've been texting with this morning?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
From Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Not not the funnel web what Sydney's funnel web spiders.
I mean, yeah, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That he's out and he's in Australia listening to the show.
He's back in his room. It's the evening. He's had dinner,
a few drinks, chilling out for the evening and he's
listening to the show right now.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And Ron, the picture you show me looks like he's
having a good time.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And he's having a good time.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, he's sharing pictures.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Well that's good.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, if he's sharing pictures, he's not having a good time.
Now think about that taking time to take pictures. You've
got to get out there and just enjoy. Look for
those funnel web spiders, look for those crate snakes, you know.
I mean, what did I hear the other day someone said,
if it's not going to bite you and kill you
at Leach in Australia, something like that, right works. It
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is an incredible continent all to himself, right you know.
And they do have and they I mean everything from ants.
They have a tremendously mandibled ant there that has you know,
like it's measured one of the highest toxins of any
insect in the world in its sting, not its bite,
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has big mandibles, but in a thing. Yeah great, yeah,
like I want to go there now.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I hope Ron, I hope Ron's listening so he can
protect himself.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm hoping that he just
you know, of course, what the heck, Ron, that's having fun.
I mean, you know, getting out there, you know, turning
over rocks, getting this an yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean,
you know famous last words. You know, look at this?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Is that an ant?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, that's a snake. Oh no. Anyway, I got a
couple of things for you.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I like your posting the bagworm posting this week about
parasitoid and connecting the dots and all of that. My
question is the the backrooms that you plucked off of
the juniper that have all the berries attached. You think
they were using those for like making gin or anything.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
A little little bag worms, And I often wonder that, Yeah,
they you know a little flavor there, you know, to
go with the to go with the green.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
There's an awful there's an awful lot of berries attached
to those bags.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, I'll tell you. It was almost as though they
just set out to do that and I will come clean.
Those are on my junipers, which is just oh yeah
they were.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You want them to grow there so you could do
what you just do.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, okay, that that's my story. I appreciate that. Ron,
that's my story. I'm gonna start sticking to it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You never noticed them, but yeah, yeah, yes, that's what
I That's what I told my wife.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, you don't tell her. I said that right right now,
so I don't have to worry about that. That's right,
that's exactly right. Yes, it's just between you and me,
you know, they say, and the gate posts. Who I
have to roll that in?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know? I used to on the somebody was talking
about this kid that waived the traffic when I in Indiana,
and I'm gonna I'm going to confess this. At the
end of our driveway we lived out in the farm
in the country. Huge fence post at the very end,
which you always did, had a great big fence post
to hold support everything.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was right, It was probably both.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, it was like the size of a tree. I
would go out there after I got home from school
and did stuff. I'd go out there and sit on
that fence post and wave the cars that drove by.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Well that I mean, look, I hear that, and I
have seen that growing up. I mean I hear that.
It kind of you know, kind of expressed in a
in a in a derogatory way, let's be awesome. Oh yeah,
but no, that's what we did. I mean, you know,
I waved the cars. Of course, our farm in West Virginia,
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there would be like a car a day. So I
came out.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We were on four twenty one, so it was a
major you know, two way road.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I was sat out there and waved it. And I
knew half the people anyway would driving by, or neighbors
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I enjoyed that for an hour or so, just sitting
there waving. Anyway. I don't know how that came up,
but somebody.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
No, there's there's a perfect segue because we're gonna talk
about something we've talked about before. We're gonna bring the importance.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
No waving.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
It's it's it's re rear end. We'll talk about that again.
But anyway, I mean the wave. You really set us
up a great seg Thank you so much. But your
second thing you said you had another thing.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Uh, Joe Strucker just came back from Florida.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Everybody is going.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
You and I go to National Indiana.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
And nationale Ghoshen, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I loved it, though, I enjoyed it. But he was
down there and he said they had they got it
many times with the love bug.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Yes, yes, you know that is that is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I don't know if he was talking about his date
or but no, he was. He said the love bug
and he said they were everywhere and then he said
they were nasty. And I didn't know anything about them until.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I, yeah, until you look into well.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He looked he looked it up to you mean like Herbie,
but yeah, like Kirby.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, I forgot about that boy.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I'll tell you what was his number?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Twenty nine two three. I don't know anyway, but I
found out that was a fly actually a fly.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's the male that hangs on after their mating and
flies around with her. And uh, but they're high in
they're very a city.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
They are they are you know, it's it's really interesting.
They now this is this is kind of interesting that
there are two different times. And I might have this wrong.
It's been a while I've talked about love bugs, but
I think that we have a spring, and I think
we do have a foll emergence. I'm pretty sure about that.
(29:08):
So it's sort of it's one of those deals where
if you go down in the winter, you may miss it.
If you're down there in the summer, you may miss it.
But if you go down there in the spring, which
you know, again that's not you know, that's a time
of year. Some people people do travel, you know, to Florida,
but but not a lot. I mean, I would say
(29:28):
more in the summer. When you agree, I mean it's
a little bit more. You know, maybe one school that's
I suppose in the spring. But the point being is
that people people tend to miss these insects because just
when they're vacationing in Florida. And it's not just Florida,
Louisiana and Mississippi, the Gulf Coast, even over in the Texas.
(29:49):
But it's a it's a really fascinating insect. Just like
you know where I'm heading with this. Just you mentioned
Port Clinton, just like mayfly.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh yeah, we had we had some up there. We
were there.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, Now wait when were you up there?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
This is interesting in the August.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Now that is really interesting because we were up there.
Uh well, it was all the way back in June.
And my wife actually, for some odd reason, doesn't like
may flies. I mean that's just you know, opposite's a track, right,
so she's not a big fan.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'm with your wife then, because I'm not too crazy
about him either. Did I tell you that story about
those We were in Port Clinton and it was the
morning we were leaving and we pulled in some building there.
My wife had to go get something out of one
of the shops here. But anyway, the barn swallows were
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like flying against the wall.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
My goodness.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So like they were hanging on to the side of
the wall, flying horizontally flat up against the wall. And
what they were doing were eating the mayflies off the
side of the wall.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
And when you watch him, yeah, yeah, they're just like,
well Hoover vacuum.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It was great. And they just worked across the wall,
just eating those things up.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I just and that. And then of course as they
go up, eventually he gets so heavy they.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Just dropped and they just like. Carol got in the
car and was like, what are you doing? So, what's
what's those watch those barn swallows. Look what they're doing. Like,
let's go listen, so anyway, so we'll.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
See that that's no, no, that is that's the reason
why I think may flies are are so fascinating. And
of course we're gonna leave everyby hanging because I'm looking
and I'm thinking there must be a break sometime soon.
I want to don't want to launch into a new
new story.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
It may be. It may be, So let's make this mate,
this go ahead, and may take a break and then
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Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
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Speaker 4 (34:06):
Well So the reason that I really appreciate mayflies goes
all the way back to something that you know, I
almost hate to mention it these days, although it comes
up every so often, the Cuyahoga River catching fire. I
hate to mention it because that river and Lake Erie
itself has undergone a huge cleanup over the years. When
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you and I are very young, you know, that's when
that happened. I mean, there was so much oils and gases,
you know, gasoline and just all kinds of different materials
that could catch fire, that would leak into the river.
And of course the rest is history. So it got
so bad, and it was not just one time. Well
(34:49):
at the same time, run various entomologists, including those at
Ohio State University and their research center of their own
Gibraltar Island, which is not far from put In Bay
and Port Clinton. It's just out in the water a
short distance. They started documenting, you know, basically, you know,
the death of Lake Erie. There's another way of putting it.
(35:12):
And it was pretty grim. You know, if you go
back and look at some of the papers published in
the sixties and and even early seventies, it was, oh
my gosh, you know, this is not a good thing.
And of course aside from just you know, the beauty
and all the different purposes that we go to Lake
(35:34):
to Lake Erie and the Great Lakes in general, you know,
source of drinking water for a lot of communities. So
this did not look good. One of the measures of
the pollution were mayflies. They're very sensitive to extremely sensitive
to different different contaminants, in fact, a lot of contaminants.
(35:57):
And there was an entomologist at Ohio State that he started,
as I recall, and I could have this wrong, but
I believe he started very early in his career, of
not during grad school. He would just every year go
up and take measurements of the of the immature may flies,
you know, those that are in the water, which we
tend to forget. This insect spends actually most of his
(36:19):
time underwater, just like our periodical cicadas spend most of
their time below ground. There's a connection I'm going to
make here in a second. Actually I'll just make it
right now. Both of these insects rely on emerging with
such in such large numbers, the reproductive stages emerging, the
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adults emerging in such large numbers they overwhelm the predators,
the barn swallows and geese and so on and so forth
in the case of cicadas, and that's called predator satiation.
So that's the strategy. But back to the death of
Lake Erie, So the lake was being monitored. Flies were
(37:00):
a key indicator organism and it, like I saidn it
looks very grim. You can I still have and you
can find. Of course, that's the nice thing about scientific publications.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
They don't go away.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
You can go back and refer to them, and that's
and it's very interesting reading.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Well.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Once a very concerted effort began to be made to
clean up Lake Erie, and actually to clean up the
lakes in general. There was other problems, not just with
Lake Erie, but a concerted effort to clean up the
first indicator of a healthy lake. Guess what we're what
increased populations exactly exactly. And I have to tell you
(37:43):
the comeback has been remarkable because there are many different
species of mayflies and they emerge sometimes pretty close together sometimes.
And by the way, it's called a hatch. And you
know we've talked about this before. It's not a hatch really,
it just called a hatch, but we reserve that for
hatching from eggs. Okay, it's the emergence of the adults
(38:04):
from the lakes, and they lack mouth parts. They only
last twenty four to forty eight hours. Their sole purpose
is to emerge and mate, and the females to lay eggs.
But the point being is it's also very interesting in
that the different species were being affected in much the
same way, but some more than others. And over time
(38:29):
we've seen the re emergence of multiple species in Lake
Erie and that's that's why I look at them as
being just a remarkable insect. They indicate that that lake
is clean. We have some emergence along the Ohio River,
as you know, not quite as much as there's a
(38:49):
river in Pennsylvania as Susquehanna can have huge, huge emergence.
Wherever we see may flies emerging, you know, that means
that we have water that will support the immatures, and
of course those immatures also feed fish, and that's the
kind of we make a big circle of life. Will
(39:10):
start singing here in a second. So the immatures, which
in the water we call them naiads, the immatures for
an aquatic insect. They feed fish and other organisms. Of course,
once the adults emerge, that predator satiation kicks in, and
it is amazing too how many things do well with mayfi.
(39:33):
So then the literature is now telling us that after
these different emergencies of adults, we start seeing increases and
more successful population rise in different birds and different predators
that depend on see I'm heading.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We've seen.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I mean, it's no accident that some of the fish
that we really love to eat out of Lake Erie
also our fish that prey on the immature may fi.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
So they're very important. Walleyes, yeah, I'm sorry, Walleye.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Oh wileye am boy, I tell you I love them both,
Walleye and lake Perch. Oh yeah, my goodness, yes, they're
both fantastic. So how did we get all love bugs?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
It started from love bugs. I mean that's the way
this whole this whole segment always goes. Starts from love
bugs to uh, mayflies and barnswallows eat them off the
side of a building.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
All right.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
So I'm going to be running out of time, but
I did have I'm going to be posting about the
boogie woogie ephors this up coming week. Uh you know,
they've been with us for a long time. But boy,
I'll tell you, populations are very high. Right now, and
they're just kind of fun. We also have a mystery
ephit occurring on the American ELM right now. And uh,
I don't know if you've gotten reports. We have had
(40:55):
reports all throughout well from Central Ohio. I have to
have pictures these aphids coming to American ELM in huge numbers.
When you see the pictures, they just almost looks like
early Halloween. H Now, we're trying, we're trying to run
down exactly what's happening there. We suspect I don't want
(41:16):
to go too far here, but about the only aphid
that has a very strong relationship with American ELM at
this time of the year is one that you and
I talked about by email, the Wooly Apple aphed Really
how'd you like that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
I like that big circle.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Yes, So so we think we're thinking we're heading in
that direction. But you know, Ron, we're just now relearning
about what, you know, the different things that can come
to American ELM. When I say relearning, thinking about it,
you know, we lost the American ALMS, so we're relearning
what happened. So we'll talk more about that next week.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Okay, I appreciate it. Hey, Joe, always a pleasure. Great
information be one gl dot O s U dot ed
uh any idea any recommendations on getting rid of gophers?
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Move no gophers?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Minnesota, Minnesota, Joe, Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
I know, I know, I just yeah. You send buck eyes.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
After there you go, buck guys at them go by.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
There you go go buck All.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Right, Thanks Joe, Thanks all of our cars, Thanks our sponsors,
Thanks of course of Danny Glease and our producer, because
without Danny Gleese and none of this stuff would happen.
So Danny, thank you so much. We'll blame you for
everything that happens here, but thank you for what you do.
Now do yourself a favor. Keep planting a tree or
two or three. Make sure that they're growing well. Right tree,
right place. Pamper your worms, get the kids and dogs.
Involve with gardening. Be friendly and pollinat or polite. Make
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it the best weekend of your life.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
See you dream time or not.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three
talk This is in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Being that they had
Speaker 2 (43:12):
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