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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personally yard boy. We're talking about yarning with wool. That's right,
yardening with wool. You know, I just I got the
interestired about the doing this this past winter and early spring,
learning more about it, trying to find out more about it.
(00:56):
I think this is an up and coming thing that's
I think is absolutely outstanding. More and more research being
done on it, and that's why we've dedicated a whole
hour this morning to talk about using wool in your garden,
and we're finding out more and more benefits about it
all the time. Now, who got me started thinking about
doing these Well, these two young ladies did, and they
(01:19):
were our first guests on our show to ever talk
about using wool in your garden. Who am I talking about? Well,
I call them the Wallettes. That's the name of their company.
But they're the Wolettes, Karen Mayhew and Elaine Becker and
they are back with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Good morning, Good morning, Ron, Good morning Ron, Thanks for
having us back.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Hey, my pleasure. You know, you guys are the ones
that got me started here, and I just all summer,
I've been talking about using this weoll trying to find
out if anybody else has been using it, and people
look at me like I'm crazy, But we're going to
get this out here. Well I know you do, Dan,
I get it. But absolutely outstanding. I think this is
the greatest thing ever Elaine. First of all, have you
(02:00):
had your Dandelion Route coffee?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Absolutely? First day in the morning, every morning.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I just want to make sure. And then second question
is on your on your website, why do we get
a picture of a lane, but Karen, you're standing behind.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
The sheep because I'm usually standing behind the sheep.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Okay, well that makes sense. Then I get it all right.
So since we spoke this past spring trying to promote
get folks more interested in using these wool pellets in
their garden, lots of things have happened with the wool lets.
Give us an update on what's going on with the woolets.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, it's been an exciting year. We were fortunate enough
to be awarded a couple of grants, one from Food
Faith and Farming Network and one from the Boundless Features Foundation,
and we used that money to purchase new, larger production
machines which have just arrived from overseas, and they will
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increase our capacity by at least four times, possibly more.
We have moved off the farm and out of Elane's
shed mostly so our husbands are extremely excited that that's happened.
But we have now moved into a commercial space which
will give us room to expand with the new machines
and kind of our own, our own spot instead of
(03:23):
having to share. We've we've done some more education. Elaine
is now a master naturalist for Wisconsin, and I am
a master gardener. And jeez, don't I missing anything. We've
just been going like gangbusters crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And so I guess the other question here. Have the
husbands bought into this thing?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Obviously they have, well, they don't really have a choice.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh well absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
My husband Bob, he is helping us right now create
another room inside the commercial space that we're renting so
that we can have a clean space to weigh and
store product. So yes, yeah, both husbands are all in
very excited for our success. Ye know, George usually handles
the stuff, moving the wool for us and bringing things
(04:17):
over and things like that for us. So yeah, they're
they're in cool talking.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
About the wool. That's Karen and Elaine. Is it Woolet's
dot net or com?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's woolets dot net, dot.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Net, Roode dot com. And I didn't think that was right.
Go to website, well, Let's dot net. That's woll Let's
dot net and learn more about them and what they're doing.
Great website as well. What is a master naturalist?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh, thanks for asking. It's it's a way to learn
more about the entire ecosystem and how things come together.
I was fortunate enough to take a class on water quality.
But there are a variety of different classes that you
could specialize in, but my focus was on water quality
and the ag phosphorus run off and the importance of
(05:06):
mitigating that damage to the ecosystem and having wool in
regenerative AG is a great way to add natural materials
and organic materials fertilizer that's completely sustainable and natural without
adding more phosphorus.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, and there's a lot of states that are going
through that issue right now, Ohio being the same thing.
A lot of our lawn fertilizers, you know, basically are
like a twenty four zero ten or whatever. To try
to keep that up and again when we look at
these like the wool pellets, one of the many benefits
here and what is a general NPK on wool pellets.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
For nitrogen zero for phosphorus and two for potassium nine.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Zero two zero two. Okay, so you get no phosphors,
but you got a good source of nitrogen and put
in the potash as well, and of course it's all natural.
So yeah, so you just can't go wrong there.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think that one of the best things about it
is that because it's organic matter, you're actually feeding your
soil micro organisms and not just feeding your plants. People
don't always realize that the more synthetics or inorganic fertilizers
that they put in, they're feeding their plants, but they're
actually starving their soil biome. And that's what makes your
(06:31):
soil healthy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Sure, you've got to get that soil alive. That's wy
I've always said, you know, if you get that that
soil alive, you know, I always say, pamper your worms.
If you've got a lot of worm activity going on there,
the microbes are going on. If the soil is happy,
you know, it's like you know, when mom is happy,
everybody else is happy. Well, when the soil is happy,
your plants are going to be happy, correct, And that's
(06:52):
where that's where using woollet's come in. So I Karen
talking about the sheep, and all you were obviously were
the sheep for armor of the whole group here, both
of you, right, Elayne, you didn't you didn't raise sheep.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
No, no sheep here?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So how how did you? How did you come together
and say, Okay, I got this waste wool, this unused wool,
and I'm the environmentalist, so let's get together and make
wool pellets.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Always been friends for over gosh, twenty five twenty six years,
ever since our kids were little, and I was about
to run with the idea of the pellets. I've been
kind of working on it in my head with my
husband for a couple of years, and I was excited.
We met for coffee and catching up and I was
telling her, Oh, here's what I'm going to be doing,
and Elaine was like, hey, wait a second, this is
(07:37):
perfect for you know, for sustainability, and you're you know,
this is something big, and you know, let me join in.
I can help. So we're already good friends. Anyhow, just
seemed like a natural partnership. And we're complete opposites. Oh
we are. So it's a really good fit. Yeah, we
balance each other.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You can't eat you know what, because there's always a
risk involved when you get the friends together in a business.
You never know. But if you're complete opposite, that is
a great thing.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, it's hilarious Sundays.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So all right, So you got together and you said, okay,
I got this waste, let's figure out what we can
do with it. And you said, okay, so I've been
kind of looking at they've been using us in the gardens.
And then Lane said, you've got to be kidding me.
And you kept doing research and you found out about
the process of doing making it, turning it into pellets.
Tell us about the way you guys turn that into pellets.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, we start with the raw wool, and we not
only use my wool, but we actually have bought twenty
four thousand pounds of wool from the Midwest, mostly Wisconsin,
but a couple of other states from shepherds there. And
we take that raw wol that would otherwise be thrown out,
we shred it in our shredder. The current shredder is
(08:55):
named Wilma and she shreds it with her whirling blades
of death until it comes out into you'll find little shreds.
And then we put it through Betty our pellet mill,
and that is that uses heat and compression to melt
the lanilin that's in the raw wool, and then buying
all of the shreds together to form the pellets so
(09:17):
they comenot looking like rabbit food. The most important part
of it is the moisture level has to be within
a certain range or else it doesn't pellet right. But
it's the lanile en that's the magic ingredient. So we
don't add anything to the pellets unless we have to
miss them with a little water once in a while.
But the lanil en melts under the high heat in
(09:37):
the pelt mill comes out at about one hundred and
eighty degrees. So that also sterilizes any seeds that are
in there. Because I always say my sheep like to
wear their food as well as actually eat it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it. If you've never been
around sheet before and around the fields, they collect everything
that's out there and including those cuckoborders and all that stuff.
So yes, they do a little bit of manure and
mud and all the rest the things that go along
with that as well. Talking with Karen Mayhew and we're
talking with Elaine Becker. They are the Wooletts and their
company is called Woolets. Go to their website it's Wooletts
(10:09):
dot net. We're talking about using wool pellets in your gardening,
whether it be container gardening, in the ground gardening, agricultural farming.
It can be used for all of that. Let's take
a break, we'll come back. We'll learn about more about
the benefits of using this wool and where why are
we using it for this and not using it to
make socks. That's a good question. I got asked that
(10:30):
a lot as well. We'll find out more about that
here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. How is your
garden growing?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
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Speaker 1 (12:59):
A welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Time for part two of the Woolets. They're the ones
(13:20):
that got me started and fired up about all this stuff.
Using wool pellets as a soil amendment in your garden.
It's an all natural way to feed the garden at
organic matter back and you're using up that waste wool
all at the same time. Who are the woolets. We'll
go to their website and find out it's Woolets dot Net.
Karen Mayhew and Elaine Becker and there with us this morning.
(13:42):
So why do we have wasted wool?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, most of the wool in the United States ends
up being waste wool to be honest, because most of
us don't actually raise a fine world sheep. So we'll
comes from different grades. Fine wool being something like marino
or rambolas, something that's used more for garments close to
your skin. You know, you'll hear a lot, you know,
(14:08):
when you're searching for wool garments, you'll see, you know,
one marino wool. So that is the softest and finest
wool grad wise that's out there. But marino sheep are
notoriously picky and fussy and difficult to grow unless they
have exactly the right conditions. Most of us don't have
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exactly the right conditions. So, like in the Midwest, most
of our wool is a medium grade, and so that
wool is also good for garments and things but it's
more like scarves and hats and mittens and things that
are not next to sensitive skin. You can certainly find
wool in the medium grade that is soft enough. One
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of my breeds, the clean Forest has some of the
sheep have softer wool that I could use for sweater.
But the rest of the time, I mean, most of
the wool that's grown here isn't used for anything because
there isn't an infrastructure for wool production anymore, or for
like fabric production anymore. For example, the United States military,
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they all have wool uniforms, and that used to be
required that it was US wool, and no longer is.
There used to be laws for that, and there are
not anymore. So now all of the wool for the
military uniforms here in the United States gets imported from China.
Generally the fabric comes over from there, made from their
(15:37):
sheep wool. And then well, we still are required to
use the colors. The dye colors are patented for the
US military here in the States, and they have to
use our dye, but they don't have to use our
wool anymore. So what are we supposed to do with
all that? There are no longer very many woolen mills
in the country. There's still pendleton out in Washington or Oregon.
(15:59):
I forget exactly where they are, but in the Pacific
Northwest that still makes wool garments and wool runs and
things like that. But most of the time it's there,
that stuff is all farmed out. All that stuff comes
from overseas.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
So so what are you gonna do with the wolf exactly?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
And so you guys got to put your heads together,
and this is what we're doing. And we're making wool
lets and of course having it lane involved, uh you know,
getting that to the for environmental reasons and putting it
back into the soil. Blah blah blah. It's a great combination.
And again, have you learned more about wool using wool pellets?
(16:37):
I mean we talked earlier, you talked about growing tomatoes
they produced earlier. Obviously the water retention that you get
out of using that. Have you have you learned more
about as a critter repelling. I did a lot of
research through the summer and it seems like and I
was reading I think it was Country Growers Magazine or
one of those magazines they're talking about when they're looking
(16:58):
at deer repellants and ritter repellants. Sheep wool and lanolin
lasting the longest of just about anything that's out there
on the market today.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Absolutely. I put balls of raw wool right into my
arbor ide because the deer just think that is, you know,
a popsicle. And the lanolin doesn't melt off in the rain.
You know, it takes a heat of at least one
hundred and forty degrees to melt the lanolin. So you're
never going to get a rain that that's hot. That's
(17:28):
is that hot at least I hope not. And so
and wet lanolin smells even stronger than dry lanel, And
so checking that inside your plants where you can't see
it from the outside, but the deer can smell it.
It doesn't go away, It just stays there and it
works great.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, well it's getting it's getting great reviews. Any well.
I think what was also interesting is that when I'm
you know, doing some research and you're talking about, you know,
folks that are now making these wool pellets, your name
was mentioned in them almost every article I think that
I read, so the words getting out there about the
wallets yeah, so you know you're learning more and more
about them. Again, you can go to the website as
(18:05):
woolets dot net woolets dot net and learn more about it.
So folks can buy these in different bags, different bag sizes.
What is the rate that you would use woolets wool pellets,
like in the vegetable garden.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
If you're going to broadcast to build all of your soil,
so you just want to broadcast that across your garden
until it in then it's one pound of pellets for
thirty square feet. If you're using like raised beds, they're
generally like four by eight so less is often more
when it comes to adding a woolen. So I usually
tell people a one pound bag does a four x
eight square foot raised bed?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay? And in container gardens yep.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
In container gardens usually it's about a half to a
third of a cup per gallon of soil mixed in.
I put a little bit more, like more half cup
side in hanging baskets that are out right in the sun,
because it seems like they just use it up so
much faster, and so a little bit more there is
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good When I'm planting out in the garden, or just planting,
even in containers. A lot of times what I do
is just put a tablespoon of willets down in the
bottom of the hole and then add a little soil,
put my plant in, and then as I'm backfilling, if
I know it's a heavy feeder like a tomato or
a squash, then I'll add another tablespoon around in the
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soil as I'm backfilling. And that seems to be enough
for them for the entire growing season.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Because it's got such a high nitrogen. You don't want
to add too much at one time because then you're
getting you know, of course, all foliage and not as
much fruit, right.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
And getting go to the websites wallets dot net, wolet's
dot net. You can also find maulching Fleece and Anya's
Moisture moisturizing soap. Will make me nice and soft, Yes,
it will excellent. Hey, thanks you so much for spending
time with us this morning, Karen Mayhewane Becker, Wallets, walats
dot Net. Have a great morning, thanks so much. Bent
(20:05):
All right, bye bye quick break, We come back. Time
for buggy Joe Boggs. If he's use wallets, you're in
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Speaker 5 (22:36):
Hello Joe, Hello Ron, So how you doing today?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Would you ever imagine using wool pellets in your vegetable
garden containers and hanging baskets?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I never imagine such a thing. I'm not even sure.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Why did you all raise sheep when you were on
the phone.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
We did not, We did not know we did. In
West Virginia, there are sheep in the eastern part of
the state. Not a big not a big thing, or
wasn't a big thing then. But you know, now things
have changed a bit because of wool and so forth.
But no, so never would have thought about it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Though, What a great, great way to use up wasted wool.
I didn't realize there was so much wasted wool in
the United States, but they've been doing it in Europe forever.
But you know, a great way to use it, and
you look at all the benefits of using it. Even
the Ohio State University did any study on the use
of wool as a en compost and other alternative applications
(23:43):
and gave it a great review. So you know, it's
getting more and more research, more and more people using it,
more and more people making it. The pellets that you
can use so pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
You know. That's one thing about about your show, Ron,
I mean, I have this many many times. How it's
such an educational opportunity for so many folks. You know,
you you find things like this and other things that well,
you know, we may not.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Be found, Joe, that's all.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
That's that's because you turned the rock over, you know,
and there was I mean, that's that's why. I mean,
you turn over rocks to look for interesting and odd things.
And I'm in the second category.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So odd. You just summed it all up right there.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Well, so what is going on besides moliness this week?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Lots of fall color.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Fall color has been surprising. I did not expect exploded.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
My term this week is that fall color, especially red maples.
But Barning Bush was just a dark green two ten
days ago. It's now red. Oak trees were even starting
to turn, you know, some yellows and some gold you know,
seeing a little bit of that golden and some maroons
in there. Ash trees are showing color if there's any
(25:07):
available out there. But you just see the fall color
has just simply exploded this week.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
It has been incredible, and I didn't think that would happened.
You know, we were in uh we were in a bit
of a drought. I mean not as bad as up
in northwest Ohio right now. I mean even with the
recent rains, they're still in trouble up there, but but
we were in a drought. It was dry and normally
under droughty conditions, you know, we just see trees going
(25:35):
from green to brown. It's kind of what happened last
year and a lot of over much of Ohio. So
I thought that that was the direction we were heading.
I mean, you know, oh yeah, you could see some
of the you know, some of the deciduous trees, of
course I talk about here, but some of the hickorys,
you know, they were starting to just go brown. And
(25:56):
of course hickory is not a huge fall collar tree.
Know you get yellows and little tinge of oranges depending
on the species. But but they were going brown, and
and I just was thinking, well, there's just no way.
And I've noticed two things that started this past last weekend,
last Sunday, fall colors were just getting rolling, and this
(26:18):
whole entire last week. And then my understanding is that
maybe it hasn't even peaked yet. I don't know, but
we we're certainly taking a peak out of them, aren't we.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
We certainly are.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
It is incredible, though, but with fall colors, you know,
comes a few insect issues. I am still amazed. Oh yes,
you know. I taught the master gardener class the Butler
Canyons past week and and one of the uh, one
of the master gardeners, asked me about, you know, the
deal with these pits in the soil, And of course
(26:55):
we talked about one of our favorite insects, ant lions,
and that's still I am still getting, you know, emails
about what are these I don't know, you know, she
asked whether or not I thought the populations were unusually
high or and you know that wasn't We talked a
bit last week, and I think even a week before
about it. This has sort of been a consistent topic.
(27:17):
But I'm not sure what's going on. Ron. I mean,
I don't know whether two years in a row with
uh with you know, not not total droughts, but this year,
for example, but two years in a row with late summer,
early fall, you know, low amounts of rain. Because we
do know rain it doesn't always kill them. It can
(27:40):
it can dround them, but it certainly destroys their their pits,
and then you have to make new pits. And that's
what they want.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
In my house because I have that four foot overhang.
Well there, you got to stay right up against the foundation,
and that's that's where I see all mine. As a
matter of fact, I need to look. I'll look on
the way home today going to the front door, and
if they're still there, because I have to look for
a while.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Mine are still out back or on the side of
my house there under an overhang created by you know,
all these gas furnaces or gas fireplaces, and they were
still there. Now they say that though, I just realized,
wait a second, when was the last time I was
out there. I think two days ago? They were still there,
(28:24):
and I think they'll stay there until you know, it
just gets too cold. That amps aren't moving about. We
I've had pictures of them all the way up into
November or through November. But the point being is is
that you know, that's been a very unusual thing, this fault.
Another unusual thing has been just a dribbling in of
(28:45):
fall invaders. I mean, have you gotten emails or you know,
questions about large numbers coming into.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
All I have? You know, yeah, box elder bugs usually
all over that. The stink bugs I think I've seen
to myself, Asian lady beatles. Nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I have had literally no reports. I mean I really haven't.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Well, it's so odd because we started well, even in
our you know, my house, we started getting some brown
marmony stink bugs a month ago, which was really unusual,
and I marked it down someplace just unusual.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
It would have been three weeks ago that I saw
the ones at our house. A couple of them, now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
And that's it. And then again I get these mostly well, okay,
it's only back up most of my I'm not complaints.
It's not that they're saying, hey, we have a large
number of these insects. But you know, this year, last year,
people are coming more aware of our native kissing bug
in Ohio that extends all the way up you know,
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through and now apparently fairly far north end of Ohio.
But at any rate, people you know are mistaking at
least one home invader big time, the western conifer seed bug,
which is a mouthful to say. And also, look, you
just said box seller bugs for some reason, you know, people,
(30:15):
you know, there's some red on boxellar bugs. The kissing
bugs have some red on them. And so I think
that people are mistaking, well, I should say, I think
they've been sending pictures and mistaking these other insects for
kissing bugs. So it's sort of a roundabout way of
finding out, you know, what's coming into homes. And like
(30:36):
I said, they've been trickles, the western conifer seed bugs.
I've had emails with pictures and there might be no
I found three of these, you know around my home. Well,
you know, if you're near a conifer, particularly a pine tree,
a large mature pine tree producing a lot of cones.
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As the name implies, western conifer seed bug, you can
have quite a few of these coming into into your home.
And of course box elder bugs they feed on not
just maples, but other trees that produce you know, spinners,
like like ash trees, which if a person is treating
their ash tree, they're just still going to have it.
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And they come in in large numbers. It's been a
few trickling in over a long period of time, and
I don't think I've seen that before. And I keep
thinking that after we go through normally after you go
through a cool spell, when you get warm temperatures again,
and that's really dives them in. But we've sort of
(31:37):
had that roller coaster, and I'm not sure what's happening.
It's just the very unusual, very strange.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
They're all got together, well their unions all got together
and said, let's just hang out for a while. Really
mess them up.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Well, I think they just said, now we're just gonna
fool on a joe. We're just gonna you know, they'll
have something to talk about the first day of November.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
By the way, Marnie Tis wanted me to remind you
it's bat week this week.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Oh it is. I've got to get my cape on,
So get your cape on.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
There you go learn more about it at batweek dot org.
I just take a quick break. We come back. We're
going to find out Joe is talking about roundabouts? Say
is he like roundabouts? We're gonna find out here in
the garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (34:07):
Welcome back time for Part two with the budget Joe
Boggs Report. Mister Joe Buggs from OSU Extension to website
b y g e OL dot O s U dot
E d U bat Week. It is bad Awareness Week
this week and they've got a great website batweek dot org.
Learn more about bats before you hang up that bat
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house in your backyard.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
I'll tell you I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I just.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
People do that.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
They can't figure out why they don't get any bats.
Learn more about it before you do it, so you
do it in the right place. By the way, Joe
don't forget to turn your clock back tonight.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
I might I might forget. You know, this isn't not
This isn't my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right, which is your favorite daylight or regular?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yes, daylight daylight savings. You and I talked about it.
I know you like this, You're going into it, but
I just those, well, the days are shortening, so no
matter what we do, it's going to be our days
are going to length. Well, well, wait, the light isn't
the same. The length of light.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Won't be saying whether the time is, whether it's Eastern
Standard time or Daylight Saving time, it's still the same
amount of daylight.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
It's it's just when it comes up and when it
goes down. Well, it's last daylight in the winter, right.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I know that we're just saying, no matter which time
we're on, it's still the same amount of.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Time, well the same amount of time exactly. But you know,
getting dark at five.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
O'clock, you just don't have to get up earlier.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Well, it's the same time. It's the same time that
I get up and stumbling around. Well that that could
be any time of the day, as you well know.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Correct, you have to take.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
One foot in front of the other.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You know that roundabouts the roundabout way? Do you like roundabouts?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
You know I didn't know first, No, Dan, I tell
you your voice changed there for a second. You know, I
didn't at first. But they've they've kind of We have
a few roundabouts very close to my home, places where
I used to just you know, just come to complete
(36:24):
stop and then you take off and no one's there
forget well yeh, some places that could be just a
suggestion until you see those lights in your rearview mirror,
right and that, and that's the whole point, is that
the one that nearest my home. You know, very seldom
were there any other cars, which sort of did beg
(36:46):
the question as to why there's a roundabout there now.
But that doesn't matter. You know, I can come come
rolling in, you know, driving the speed limit, as you
very well know. I do it all the time right.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
In the roundabout, driving the speed limit forty.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
That's right. You see, if you go up on two wheels,
that's what they're designed for, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You know why they have that tilt.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Yeah, well some don't. I mean, that's uh, you just
go over, just drive straight through. Yeah, Joe, Yeah, Joe,
I've only I've only seen that. I just say, I'm
not aware of anyone actually doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
No, speaking of roundabout, which, what band did their song
round about during your high school days?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
What I know?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Wait? Wait, what's this?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I missed that the band did round about?
Speaker 6 (37:37):
The song round did round about? Oh? I thought you
meant what did we do round about? I don't wait
a minute, Dan say round about? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yes, you remember the song?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I don't give me my golly. That's great? Yes, I do,
now remember that?
Speaker 4 (37:58):
That was?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yes? You're right, you said yes, I do remember?
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Right? Wait? I said yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
No, no said no?
Speaker 6 (38:05):
So you said yes that You said yes, yes? But
he's the band? Yes, the band? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I
know you're going to tell me the band? But but
who was Who's on first? We were heading that way? Oh?
Here we go?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Who is the keyboard?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I can't play the whole thing, it's too.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Long, too long? Who was a keyboard?
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, Rick Wakeman? Anyway?
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Oh wait wait, no, I thought you meant just now. Well, now,
wait a minute, that wasn't I don't remember that as
being in our high school times. I thought that came later?
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
When was that it could have been freshman year in college.
I don't know, anyway, I don't know. It's not about
music on the show today, right do ants? Do ants
freeze in the winter time?
Speaker 6 (38:55):
You know it? No? No, they they that's that's yes,
that's one yes, no, yes, yes, just as the band
that's like no, it was adam ant. What are we going.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Into an avenue?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yes, I believe we in that way. And I have
to I have to speaking of freezing in the winter.
You know, it's the first November, and and we've talked
about this. You know that pupation is that's the other
reason ron that you really should not like the shorter
days for you know, standard time, because you know, I'm
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starting to feel that need to pupate.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You know, your fans, your fans have been asking and
I said, I'm not going to even ask him. I
asked about it this morning.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Well I thought a lot about it, and you look
at today for example, of course, And that was another
thing that came up as I said, we're teaching Master
Gardener class nineteen seventy one. Well, definitely we were in
high school, weren't we. There you go, I'm glad, you
know you're getting me off the I'm trying to I
realize what's happening. Yes, yes, you just I wasn't a thing.
(40:08):
Oh did I hear handwrid or did he break up?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
He broke up.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I wasn't born yet.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
So at any rate, at this time of the year,
as we've already just discussed, all the insects are kind
of going away, and and so it's a good time
that that because this allows your ratings to go back
up to recover.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
So the next Saturday will be the last one, and
you'll give us a wrap up from twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
I think that would be a really fun thing to do,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Will that work?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
I think we need to. I think that's fantastic wrap up. Yes,
and then we could have, you know, maybe a few people,
you know, submit some questions to say, Okay, I know
you're going to be gone, but you know, here's a question,
maybe about roundabouts. I don't know. Nineteen seventy one, mister
Rick Wade and keyboards. You know who was that? I
(41:01):
keep okay? Was that a person that played another band?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
He played he played the keyboards for Yes.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well you said, yeah, I know, and you said that
but but did he play in another.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Rick Wakeman a little confused too.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
It may be that time of year, right, I mean,
you know one next week is is occupation time. But
we'll have a good time, yes, going into the winter.
So why did you ask about ants? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I was seriously question when you said something about the
cold weather. It just because I know they go down
and you know, and do their thing over the wintertime.
But I was just curious if they actually could freeze.
Do the ants freeze over the wintertime if they are
exposed to extreme cold temperatures for a long period of time.
It was a serious question.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
No, no, they could and uh and and the ant
lions themselves could possibly be in trouble, although again they're
in the spoil right, So that's gonna be it. It's
gonna be a hot topic for next week.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
For the final twenty twenty five Buggy.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Joe Bobs the final one.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
By the way, we have to say it today, Okay,
Well so you'll know. So it's coming up next week,
so be sure you stay tuned next week. Joe's final
final chapter for twenty twenty and go buck.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
I may have to come back. I may have to
come back. After the national championship. But we'll see you
right so I think.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You have done that before I have to. All right,
Joe Bugs, thank you.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I'm week a great week.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
He thanks all our colors, thanks our sponsors, thanks of
course to Danny Lees and our producer, because without Danny Leeson,
none of this stuff would happen. So Danny, thank you
so much for all that you do. When I mess up.
Danny's always there to make sure everything works out just right.
Now do yourself a favor. Get out there and keep
playing those trees two or three, keep playing those data plants.
Be pollinator for flight, be friendly, get the kids involved,
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dark guardian. Make it the best week going of your life.
See it.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
Landscaping made easier with your personal yard boy. He's in
the garden and he's Ron Wilson.
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personally yard boy. We're talking about yarning with wool. That's right,
yardening with wool. You know, I just I got the
interestired about the doing this this past winter and early spring,
learning more about it, trying to find out more about it.
(00:56):
I think this is an up and coming thing that's
I think is absolutely outstanding. More and more research being
done on it, and that's why we've dedicated a whole
hour this morning to talk about using wool in your garden,
and we're finding out more and more benefits about it
all the time. Now, who got me started thinking about
doing these Well, these two young ladies did, and they
(01:19):
were our first guests on our show to ever talk
about using wool in your garden. Who am I talking about? Well,
I call them the Wallettes. That's the name of their company.
But they're the Wolettes, Karen Mayhew and Elaine Becker and
they are back with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Good morning, Good morning, Ron, Good morning Ron, Thanks for
having us back.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Hey, my pleasure. You know, you guys are the ones
that got me started here, and I just all summer,
I've been talking about using this weoll trying to find
out if anybody else has been using it, and people
look at me like I'm crazy, But we're going to
get this out here. Well I know you do, Dan,
I get it. But absolutely outstanding. I think this is
the greatest thing ever Elaine. First of all, have you
(02:00):
had your Dandelion Route coffee?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Absolutely? First day in the morning, every morning.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I just want to make sure. And then second question
is on your on your website, why do we get
a picture of a lane, but Karen, you're standing behind.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
The sheep because I'm usually standing behind the sheep.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Okay, well that makes sense. Then I get it all right.
So since we spoke this past spring trying to promote
get folks more interested in using these wool pellets in
their garden, lots of things have happened with the wool lets.
Give us an update on what's going on with the woolets.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, it's been an exciting year. We were fortunate enough
to be awarded a couple of grants, one from Food
Faith and Farming Network and one from the Boundless Features Foundation,
and we used that money to purchase new, larger production
machines which have just arrived from overseas, and they will
(03:00):
increase our capacity by at least four times, possibly more.
We have moved off the farm and out of Elane's
shed mostly so our husbands are extremely excited that that's happened.
But we have now moved into a commercial space which
will give us room to expand with the new machines
and kind of our own, our own spot instead of
(03:23):
having to share. We've we've done some more education. Elaine
is now a master naturalist for Wisconsin, and I am
a master gardener. And jeez, don't I missing anything. We've
just been going like gangbusters crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And so I guess the other question here. Have the
husbands bought into this thing?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Obviously they have, well, they don't really have a choice.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh well absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
My husband Bob, he is helping us right now create
another room inside the commercial space that we're renting so
that we can have a clean space to weigh and
store product. So yes, yeah, both husbands are all in
very excited for our success. Ye know, George usually handles
the stuff, moving the wool for us and bringing things
(04:17):
over and things like that for us. So yeah, they're
they're in cool talking.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
About the wool. That's Karen and Elaine. Is it Woolet's
dot net or com?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's woolets dot net, dot.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Net, Roode dot com. And I didn't think that was right.
Go to website, well, Let's dot net. That's woll Let's
dot net and learn more about them and what they're doing.
Great website as well. What is a master naturalist?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh, thanks for asking. It's it's a way to learn
more about the entire ecosystem and how things come together.
I was fortunate enough to take a class on water quality.
But there are a variety of different classes that you
could specialize in, but my focus was on water quality
and the ag phosphorus run off and the importance of
(05:06):
mitigating that damage to the ecosystem and having wool in
regenerative AG is a great way to add natural materials
and organic materials fertilizer that's completely sustainable and natural without
adding more phosphorus.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, and there's a lot of states that are going
through that issue right now, Ohio being the same thing.
A lot of our lawn fertilizers, you know, basically are
like a twenty four zero ten or whatever. To try
to keep that up and again when we look at
these like the wool pellets, one of the many benefits
here and what is a general NPK on wool pellets.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
For nitrogen zero for phosphorus and two for potassium nine.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Zero two zero two. Okay, so you get no phosphors,
but you got a good source of nitrogen and put
in the potash as well, and of course it's all natural.
So yeah, so you just can't go wrong there.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think that one of the best things about it
is that because it's organic matter, you're actually feeding your
soil micro organisms and not just feeding your plants. People
don't always realize that the more synthetics or inorganic fertilizers
that they put in, they're feeding their plants, but they're
actually starving their soil biome. And that's what makes your
(06:31):
soil healthy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Sure, you've got to get that soil alive. That's wy
I've always said, you know, if you get that that
soil alive, you know, I always say, pamper your worms.
If you've got a lot of worm activity going on there,
the microbes are going on. If the soil is happy,
you know, it's like you know, when mom is happy,
everybody else is happy. Well, when the soil is happy,
your plants are going to be happy, correct, And that's
(06:52):
where that's where using woollet's come in. So I Karen
talking about the sheep, and all you were obviously were
the sheep for armor of the whole group here, both
of you, right, Elayne, you didn't you didn't raise sheep.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
No, no sheep here?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So how how did you? How did you come together
and say, Okay, I got this waste wool, this unused wool,
and I'm the environmentalist, so let's get together and make
wool pellets.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Always been friends for over gosh, twenty five twenty six years,
ever since our kids were little, and I was about
to run with the idea of the pellets. I've been
kind of working on it in my head with my
husband for a couple of years, and I was excited.
We met for coffee and catching up and I was
telling her, Oh, here's what I'm going to be doing,
and Elaine was like, hey, wait a second, this is
(07:37):
perfect for you know, for sustainability, and you're you know,
this is something big, and you know, let me join in.
I can help. So we're already good friends. Anyhow, just
seemed like a natural partnership. And we're complete opposites. Oh
we are. So it's a really good fit. Yeah, we
balance each other.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You can't eat you know what, because there's always a
risk involved when you get the friends together in a business.
You never know. But if you're complete opposite, that is
a great thing.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, it's hilarious Sundays.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So all right, So you got together and you said, okay,
I got this waste, let's figure out what we can
do with it. And you said, okay, so I've been
kind of looking at they've been using us in the gardens.
And then Lane said, you've got to be kidding me.
And you kept doing research and you found out about
the process of doing making it, turning it into pellets.
Tell us about the way you guys turn that into pellets.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, we start with the raw wool, and we not
only use my wool, but we actually have bought twenty
four thousand pounds of wool from the Midwest, mostly Wisconsin,
but a couple of other states from shepherds there. And
we take that raw wol that would otherwise be thrown out,
we shred it in our shredder. The current shredder is
(08:55):
named Wilma and she shreds it with her whirling blades
of death until it comes out into you'll find little shreds.
And then we put it through Betty our pellet mill,
and that is that uses heat and compression to melt
the lanilin that's in the raw wool, and then buying
all of the shreds together to form the pellets so
(09:17):
they comenot looking like rabbit food. The most important part
of it is the moisture level has to be within
a certain range or else it doesn't pellet right. But
it's the lanile en that's the magic ingredient. So we
don't add anything to the pellets unless we have to
miss them with a little water once in a while.
But the lanil en melts under the high heat in
(09:37):
the pelt mill comes out at about one hundred and
eighty degrees. So that also sterilizes any seeds that are
in there. Because I always say my sheep like to
wear their food as well as actually eat it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it. If you've never been
around sheet before and around the fields, they collect everything
that's out there and including those cuckoborders and all that stuff.
So yes, they do a little bit of manure and
mud and all the rest the things that go along
with that as well. Talking with Karen Mayhew and we're
talking with Elaine Becker. They are the Wooletts and their
company is called Woolets. Go to their website it's Wooletts
(10:09):
dot net. We're talking about using wool pellets in your gardening,
whether it be container gardening, in the ground gardening, agricultural farming.
It can be used for all of that. Let's take
a break, we'll come back. We'll learn about more about
the benefits of using this wool and where why are
we using it for this and not using it to
make socks. That's a good question. I got asked that
(10:30):
a lot as well. We'll find out more about that
here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. How is your
garden growing?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
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Speaker 1 (12:59):
A welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Time for part two of the Woolets. They're the ones
(13:20):
that got me started and fired up about all this stuff.
Using wool pellets as a soil amendment in your garden.
It's an all natural way to feed the garden at
organic matter back and you're using up that waste wool
all at the same time. Who are the woolets. We'll
go to their website and find out it's Woolets dot Net.
Karen Mayhew and Elaine Becker and there with us this morning.
(13:42):
So why do we have wasted wool?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, most of the wool in the United States ends
up being waste wool to be honest, because most of
us don't actually raise a fine world sheep. So we'll
comes from different grades. Fine wool being something like marino
or rambolas, something that's used more for garments close to
your skin. You know, you'll hear a lot, you know,
(14:08):
when you're searching for wool garments, you'll see, you know,
one marino wool. So that is the softest and finest
wool grad wise that's out there. But marino sheep are
notoriously picky and fussy and difficult to grow unless they
have exactly the right conditions. Most of us don't have
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exactly the right conditions. So, like in the Midwest, most
of our wool is a medium grade, and so that
wool is also good for garments and things but it's
more like scarves and hats and mittens and things that
are not next to sensitive skin. You can certainly find
wool in the medium grade that is soft enough. One
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of my breeds, the clean Forest has some of the
sheep have softer wool that I could use for sweater.
But the rest of the time, I mean, most of
the wool that's grown here isn't used for anything because
there isn't an infrastructure for wool production anymore, or for
like fabric production anymore. For example, the United States military,
(15:14):
they all have wool uniforms, and that used to be
required that it was US wool, and no longer is.
There used to be laws for that, and there are
not anymore. So now all of the wool for the
military uniforms here in the United States gets imported from China.
Generally the fabric comes over from there, made from their
(15:37):
sheep wool. And then well, we still are required to
use the colors. The dye colors are patented for the
US military here in the States, and they have to
use our dye, but they don't have to use our
wool anymore. So what are we supposed to do with
all that? There are no longer very many woolen mills
in the country. There's still pendleton out in Washington or Oregon.
(15:59):
I forget exactly where they are, but in the Pacific
Northwest that still makes wool garments and wool runs and
things like that. But most of the time it's there,
that stuff is all farmed out. All that stuff comes
from overseas.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
So so what are you gonna do with the wolf exactly?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
And so you guys got to put your heads together,
and this is what we're doing. And we're making wool
lets and of course having it lane involved, uh you know,
getting that to the for environmental reasons and putting it
back into the soil. Blah blah blah. It's a great combination.
And again, have you learned more about wool using wool pellets?
(16:37):
I mean we talked earlier, you talked about growing tomatoes
they produced earlier. Obviously the water retention that you get
out of using that. Have you have you learned more
about as a critter repelling. I did a lot of
research through the summer and it seems like and I
was reading I think it was Country Growers Magazine or
one of those magazines they're talking about when they're looking
(16:58):
at deer repellants and ritter repellants. Sheep wool and lanolin
lasting the longest of just about anything that's out there
on the market today.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Absolutely. I put balls of raw wool right into my
arbor ide because the deer just think that is, you know,
a popsicle. And the lanolin doesn't melt off in the rain.
You know, it takes a heat of at least one
hundred and forty degrees to melt the lanolin. So you're
never going to get a rain that that's hot. That's
(17:28):
is that hot at least I hope not. And so
and wet lanolin smells even stronger than dry lanel, And
so checking that inside your plants where you can't see
it from the outside, but the deer can smell it.
It doesn't go away, It just stays there and it
works great.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, well it's getting it's getting great reviews. Any well.
I think what was also interesting is that when I'm
you know, doing some research and you're talking about, you know,
folks that are now making these wool pellets, your name
was mentioned in them almost every article I think that
I read, so the words getting out there about the
wallets yeah, so you know you're learning more and more
about them. Again, you can go to the website as
(18:05):
woolets dot net woolets dot net and learn more about it.
So folks can buy these in different bags, different bag sizes.
What is the rate that you would use woolets wool pellets,
like in the vegetable garden.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
If you're going to broadcast to build all of your soil,
so you just want to broadcast that across your garden
until it in then it's one pound of pellets for
thirty square feet. If you're using like raised beds, they're
generally like four by eight so less is often more
when it comes to adding a woolen. So I usually
tell people a one pound bag does a four x
eight square foot raised bed?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay? And in container gardens yep.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
In container gardens usually it's about a half to a
third of a cup per gallon of soil mixed in.
I put a little bit more, like more half cup
side in hanging baskets that are out right in the sun,
because it seems like they just use it up so
much faster, and so a little bit more there is
(19:10):
good When I'm planting out in the garden, or just planting,
even in containers. A lot of times what I do
is just put a tablespoon of willets down in the
bottom of the hole and then add a little soil,
put my plant in, and then as I'm backfilling, if
I know it's a heavy feeder like a tomato or
a squash, then I'll add another tablespoon around in the
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soil as I'm backfilling. And that seems to be enough
for them for the entire growing season.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Because it's got such a high nitrogen. You don't want
to add too much at one time because then you're
getting you know, of course, all foliage and not as
much fruit, right.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
And getting go to the websites wallets dot net, wolet's
dot net. You can also find maulching Fleece and Anya's
Moisture moisturizing soap. Will make me nice and soft, Yes,
it will excellent. Hey, thanks you so much for spending
time with us this morning, Karen Mayhewane Becker, Wallets, walats
dot Net. Have a great morning, thanks so much. Bent
(20:05):
All right, bye bye quick break, We come back. Time
for buggy Joe Boggs. If he's use wallets, you're in
the garden.
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Speaker 1 (22:08):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
forget our website. It's Ron Wilson Online dot com Facebook page.
In the garden with Ron Wilson. Ladies and gentlemen, Now
it is time for the buggy Joe Boggs Report. That
would be Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor, Commercial Holderculture educator for
the Ohio State University Stitchen what OSU Department of Entomology,
(22:31):
co creator of Matha Coffee and for him. His website
is bygl dot OSU dot edu.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Hello Joe, Hello Ron, So how you doing today?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Would you ever imagine using wool pellets in your vegetable
garden containers and hanging baskets?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I never imagine such a thing. I'm not even sure.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Why did you all raise sheep when you were on
the phone.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
We did not, We did not know we did. In
West Virginia, there are sheep in the eastern part of
the state. Not a big not a big thing, or
wasn't a big thing then. But you know, now things
have changed a bit because of wool and so forth.
But no, so never would have thought about it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Though, What a great, great way to use up wasted wool.
I didn't realize there was so much wasted wool in
the United States, but they've been doing it in Europe forever.
But you know, a great way to use it, and
you look at all the benefits of using it. Even
the Ohio State University did any study on the use
of wool as a en compost and other alternative applications
(23:43):
and gave it a great review. So you know, it's
getting more and more research, more and more people using it,
more and more people making it. The pellets that you
can use so pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
You know. That's one thing about about your show, Ron,
I mean, I have this many many times. How it's
such an educational opportunity for so many folks. You know,
you you find things like this and other things that well,
you know, we may not.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Be found, Joe, that's all.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
That's that's because you turned the rock over, you know,
and there was I mean, that's that's why. I mean,
you turn over rocks to look for interesting and odd things.
And I'm in the second category.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So odd. You just summed it all up right there.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Well, so what is going on besides moliness this week?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Lots of fall color.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Fall color has been surprising. I did not expect exploded.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
My term this week is that fall color, especially red maples.
But Barning Bush was just a dark green two ten
days ago. It's now red. Oak trees were even starting
to turn, you know, some yellows and some gold you know,
seeing a little bit of that golden and some maroons
in there. Ash trees are showing color if there's any
(25:07):
available out there. But you just see the fall color
has just simply exploded this week.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
It has been incredible, and I didn't think that would happened.
You know, we were in uh we were in a bit
of a drought. I mean not as bad as up
in northwest Ohio right now. I mean even with the
recent rains, they're still in trouble up there, but but
we were in a drought. It was dry and normally
under droughty conditions, you know, we just see trees going
(25:35):
from green to brown. It's kind of what happened last
year and a lot of over much of Ohio. So
I thought that that was the direction we were heading.
I mean, you know, oh yeah, you could see some
of the you know, some of the deciduous trees, of
course I talk about here, but some of the hickorys,
you know, they were starting to just go brown. And
(25:56):
of course hickory is not a huge fall collar tree.
Know you get yellows and little tinge of oranges depending
on the species. But but they were going brown, and
and I just was thinking, well, there's just no way.
And I've noticed two things that started this past last weekend,
last Sunday, fall colors were just getting rolling, and this
(26:18):
whole entire last week. And then my understanding is that
maybe it hasn't even peaked yet. I don't know, but
we we're certainly taking a peak out of them, aren't we.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
We certainly are.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
It is incredible, though, but with fall colors, you know,
comes a few insect issues. I am still amazed. Oh yes,
you know. I taught the master gardener class the Butler
Canyons past week and and one of the uh, one
of the master gardeners, asked me about, you know, the
deal with these pits in the soil, And of course
(26:55):
we talked about one of our favorite insects, ant lions,
and that's still I am still getting, you know, emails
about what are these I don't know, you know, she
asked whether or not I thought the populations were unusually
high or and you know that wasn't We talked a
bit last week, and I think even a week before
about it. This has sort of been a consistent topic.
(27:17):
But I'm not sure what's going on. Ron. I mean,
I don't know whether two years in a row with
uh with you know, not not total droughts, but this year,
for example, but two years in a row with late summer,
early fall, you know, low amounts of rain. Because we
do know rain it doesn't always kill them. It can
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it can dround them, but it certainly destroys their their pits,
and then you have to make new pits. And that's
what they want.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
In my house because I have that four foot overhang.
Well there, you got to stay right up against the foundation,
and that's that's where I see all mine. As a
matter of fact, I need to look. I'll look on
the way home today going to the front door, and
if they're still there, because I have to look for
a while.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Mine are still out back or on the side of
my house there under an overhang created by you know,
all these gas furnaces or gas fireplaces, and they were
still there. Now they say that though, I just realized,
wait a second, when was the last time I was
out there. I think two days ago? They were still there,
(28:24):
and I think they'll stay there until you know, it
just gets too cold. That amps aren't moving about. We
I've had pictures of them all the way up into
November or through November. But the point being is is
that you know, that's been a very unusual thing, this fault.
Another unusual thing has been just a dribbling in of
(28:45):
fall invaders. I mean, have you gotten emails or you know,
questions about large numbers coming into.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
All I have? You know, yeah, box elder bugs usually
all over that. The stink bugs I think I've seen
to myself, Asian lady beatles. Nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I have had literally no reports. I mean I really haven't.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Well, it's so odd because we started well, even in
our you know, my house, we started getting some brown
marmony stink bugs a month ago, which was really unusual,
and I marked it down someplace just unusual.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
It would have been three weeks ago that I saw
the ones at our house. A couple of them, now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
And that's it. And then again I get these mostly well, okay,
it's only back up most of my I'm not complaints.
It's not that they're saying, hey, we have a large
number of these insects. But you know, this year, last year,
people are coming more aware of our native kissing bug
in Ohio that extends all the way up you know,
(29:54):
through and now apparently fairly far north end of Ohio.
But at any rate, people you know are mistaking at
least one home invader big time, the western conifer seed bug,
which is a mouthful to say. And also, look, you
just said box seller bugs for some reason, you know, people,
(30:15):
you know, there's some red on boxellar bugs. The kissing
bugs have some red on them. And so I think
that people are mistaking, well, I should say, I think
they've been sending pictures and mistaking these other insects for
kissing bugs. So it's sort of a roundabout way of
finding out, you know, what's coming into homes. And like
(30:36):
I said, they've been trickles, the western conifer seed bugs.
I've had emails with pictures and there might be no
I found three of these, you know around my home. Well,
you know, if you're near a conifer, particularly a pine tree,
a large mature pine tree producing a lot of cones.
(30:56):
As the name implies, western conifer seed bug, you can
have quite a few of these coming into into your home.
And of course box elder bugs they feed on not
just maples, but other trees that produce you know, spinners,
like like ash trees, which if a person is treating
their ash tree, they're just still going to have it.
(31:17):
And they come in in large numbers. It's been a
few trickling in over a long period of time, and
I don't think I've seen that before. And I keep
thinking that after we go through normally after you go
through a cool spell, when you get warm temperatures again,
and that's really dives them in. But we've sort of
(31:37):
had that roller coaster, and I'm not sure what's happening.
It's just the very unusual, very strange.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
They're all got together, well their unions all got together
and said, let's just hang out for a while. Really
mess them up.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Well, I think they just said, now we're just gonna
fool on a joe. We're just gonna you know, they'll
have something to talk about the first day of November.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
By the way, Marnie Tis wanted me to remind you
it's bat week this week.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Oh it is. I've got to get my cape on,
So get your cape on.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
There you go learn more about it at batweek dot org.
I just take a quick break. We come back. We're
going to find out Joe is talking about roundabouts? Say
is he like roundabouts? We're gonna find out here in
the garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (34:07):
Welcome back time for Part two with the budget Joe
Boggs Report. Mister Joe Buggs from OSU Extension to website
b y g e OL dot O s U dot
E d U bat Week. It is bad Awareness Week
this week and they've got a great website batweek dot org.
Learn more about bats before you hang up that bat
(34:27):
house in your backyard.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
I'll tell you I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I just.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
People do that.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
They can't figure out why they don't get any bats.
Learn more about it before you do it, so you
do it in the right place. By the way, Joe
don't forget to turn your clock back tonight.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
I might I might forget. You know, this isn't not
This isn't my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right, which is your favorite daylight or regular?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yes, daylight daylight savings. You and I talked about it.
I know you like this, You're going into it, but
I just those, well, the days are shortening, so no
matter what we do, it's going to be our days
are going to length. Well, well, wait, the light isn't
the same. The length of light.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Won't be saying whether the time is, whether it's Eastern
Standard time or Daylight Saving time, it's still the same
amount of daylight.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
It's it's just when it comes up and when it
goes down. Well, it's last daylight in the winter, right.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I know that we're just saying, no matter which time
we're on, it's still the same amount of.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Time, well the same amount of time exactly. But you know,
getting dark at five.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
O'clock, you just don't have to get up earlier.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Well, it's the same time. It's the same time that
I get up and stumbling around. Well that that could
be any time of the day, as you well know.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Correct, you have to take.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
One foot in front of the other.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You know that roundabouts the roundabout way? Do you like roundabouts?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
You know I didn't know first, No, Dan, I tell
you your voice changed there for a second. You know, I
didn't at first. But they've they've kind of We have
a few roundabouts very close to my home, places where
I used to just you know, just come to complete
(36:24):
stop and then you take off and no one's there
forget well yeh, some places that could be just a
suggestion until you see those lights in your rearview mirror,
right and that, and that's the whole point, is that
the one that nearest my home. You know, very seldom
were there any other cars, which sort of did beg
(36:46):
the question as to why there's a roundabout there now.
But that doesn't matter. You know, I can come come
rolling in, you know, driving the speed limit, as you
very well know. I do it all the time right.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
In the roundabout, driving the speed limit forty.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
That's right. You see, if you go up on two wheels,
that's what they're designed for, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You know why they have that tilt.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Yeah, well some don't. I mean, that's uh, you just
go over, just drive straight through. Yeah, Joe, Yeah, Joe,
I've only I've only seen that. I just say, I'm
not aware of anyone actually doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
No, speaking of roundabout, which, what band did their song
round about during your high school days?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
What I know?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Wait? Wait, what's this?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I missed that the band did round about?
Speaker 6 (37:37):
The song round did round about? Oh? I thought you
meant what did we do round about? I don't wait
a minute, Dan say round about? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yes, you remember the song?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I don't give me my golly. That's great? Yes, I do,
now remember that?
Speaker 4 (37:58):
That was?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yes? You're right, you said yes, I do remember?
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Right? Wait? I said yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
No, no said no?
Speaker 6 (38:05):
So you said yes that You said yes, yes? But
he's the band? Yes, the band? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I
know you're going to tell me the band? But but
who was Who's on first? We were heading that way? Oh?
Here we go?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Who is the keyboard?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I can't play the whole thing, it's too.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Long, too long? Who was a keyboard?
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, Rick Wakeman? Anyway?
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Oh wait wait, no, I thought you meant just now. Well, now,
wait a minute, that wasn't I don't remember that as
being in our high school times. I thought that came later?
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
When was that it could have been freshman year in college.
I don't know, anyway, I don't know. It's not about
music on the show today, right do ants? Do ants
freeze in the winter time?
Speaker 6 (38:55):
You know it? No? No, they they that's that's yes,
that's one yes, no, yes, yes, just as the band
that's like no, it was adam ant. What are we going.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Into an avenue?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yes, I believe we in that way. And I have
to I have to speaking of freezing in the winter.
You know, it's the first November, and and we've talked
about this. You know that pupation is that's the other
reason ron that you really should not like the shorter
days for you know, standard time, because you know, I'm
(39:34):
starting to feel that need to pupate.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You know, your fans, your fans have been asking and
I said, I'm not going to even ask him. I
asked about it this morning.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Well I thought a lot about it, and you look
at today for example, of course, And that was another
thing that came up as I said, we're teaching Master
Gardener class nineteen seventy one. Well, definitely we were in
high school, weren't we. There you go, I'm glad, you
know you're getting me off the I'm trying to I
realize what's happening. Yes, yes, you just I wasn't a thing.
(40:08):
Oh did I hear handwrid or did he break up?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
He broke up.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I wasn't born yet.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
So at any rate, at this time of the year,
as we've already just discussed, all the insects are kind
of going away, and and so it's a good time
that that because this allows your ratings to go back
up to recover.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
So the next Saturday will be the last one, and
you'll give us a wrap up from twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
I think that would be a really fun thing to do,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Will that work?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
I think we need to. I think that's fantastic wrap up. Yes,
and then we could have, you know, maybe a few people,
you know, submit some questions to say, Okay, I know
you're going to be gone, but you know, here's a question,
maybe about roundabouts. I don't know. Nineteen seventy one, mister
Rick Wade and keyboards. You know who was that? I
(41:01):
keep okay? Was that a person that played another band?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
He played he played the keyboards for Yes.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well you said, yeah, I know, and you said that
but but did he play in another.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Rick Wakeman a little confused too.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
It may be that time of year, right, I mean,
you know one next week is is occupation time. But
we'll have a good time, yes, going into the winter.
So why did you ask about ants? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I was seriously question when you said something about the
cold weather. It just because I know they go down
and you know, and do their thing over the wintertime.
But I was just curious if they actually could freeze.
Do the ants freeze over the wintertime if they are
exposed to extreme cold temperatures for a long period of time.
It was a serious question.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
No, no, they could and uh and and the ant
lions themselves could possibly be in trouble, although again they're
in the spoil right, So that's gonna be it. It's
gonna be a hot topic for next week.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
For the final twenty twenty five Buggy.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Joe Bobs the final one.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
By the way, we have to say it today, Okay,
Well so you'll know. So it's coming up next week,
so be sure you stay tuned next week. Joe's final
final chapter for twenty twenty and go buck.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
I may have to come back. I may have to
come back. After the national championship. But we'll see you
right so I think.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You have done that before I have to. All right,
Joe Bugs, thank you.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I'm week a great week.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
He thanks all our colors, thanks our sponsors, thanks of
course to Danny Lees and our producer, because without Danny Leeson,
none of this stuff would happen. So Danny, thank you
so much for all that you do. When I mess up.
Danny's always there to make sure everything works out just right.
Now do yourself a favor. Get out there and keep
playing those trees two or three, keep playing those data plants.
Be pollinator for flight, be friendly, get the kids involved,
(42:49):
dark guardian. Make it the best week going of your life.
See it.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
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