November 2, 2024 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding real quick our website
Ron Wilson online dot com. Planning of the week this
week Amarillis bulbs, because if you want them for a
color for the holiday season, you need to start potting
those up here in the next week or two. If
you're buying the kits now, if you've got if you
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if you've grown them and you put it away the
first of September or sometime during September. Remember in storage
they need to stay dormant at least six to eight
weeks before you bring them out. So that's why the timing.
You know, if you do it by the mid September
or by the end of October, first of November, it's
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time to bring them out, get them fired back up
again and see if you get them to flower for
the holiday season. But if you haven't done that, you know,
and you get out to your local garden centers. Independ
the garden centers, you will start to see the Amory
kits and the amberialist bulbs showing up there for the holidays.
And like I say, now's the time to get them
potted up if you need them for the holiday season.
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Color because of the fact that it takes six to
eight weeks to get them into bloom. Paper white's a
different story. If you get those, that's about a three
week period and those things are up and in flower
and smelling up the house, so you get away a
little bit closer like Thanksgiving before you pot those up
for the holiday season. But again, you'll find that on
our website and all the tips about how to grow
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them and get them to flour again, et cetera, et cetera.
Arina's recipe making apple butter m one of my favorites.
A matter of fact, it's called apple butter for mister Wilson.
I love it. Who doesn't like apple butter? And Danny
Gleason's never tried it before. No, I've never tried it.
So we'll have to bring him in some apple butter
next week and see if he likes. Happen. Oh, I'll
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definitely try it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I guarantee you you're gonna will you will love it.
So anyway, you can check it all out at our website.
Ron Wilson online dot com. Real quick. Also, you know,
we talk a lot about the pollinators, the decline, things
that we can do to help increase pollinator populations. We
talk about the butterflies and the decline in the monarchs
and things like that. What we can do to increase
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the populations, you know, another one, birds are the same way,
and what we can do to garden for the birds
and of course bats. And this happens to be the
end of a National Bat Week, International Bat Week, to
try to bring the awareness around of bats and how
important they are in our systems as well, because I
mean to think about all they their natural form of
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pest control. Obviously, I think a single brown bat can
consume over a thousand small insects like mosquitoes in just
one night. So again, planting for all of these And
every time I bring this up and I talk about,
you know, it's some monarchs and all the other butterflies
and all of the pollinators and the birds and the bats.
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I still think about hen I confess to this about
fifteen years ago, maybe even longer. We always watched gardening
trends that come out of Europe and they're typically always
ahead of us when it comes to gardening trends they
can finally make it the United States. And one of
the gardening trends fifteen years ago or so was bringing
the wildlife into the garden. And I confess saying, I'm thinking,
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who was wanting to garden to bring in the squirrels
and the rabbits and the groundhogs and the chipmunks. Why
would you want to do that? That ain't gonna make it? Well,
that wasn't what they were talking about. What they were
talking about is what we just mentioned, all the things
we can do to recreate the habits that habitats that
have been lost for the birds and the pollinators and
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the bees and the butterflies and the bats, uh and
all of those out there. And again, to learn more
about that, and a lot of the bats kind of
go they kind of fly under the radar, get it.
But to learn more about it, there's a great website
that the Wildlife Federation put together. It's batweek dot org.
Very simple, batweek dot org, and it's about everything you
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could ever imagine you wanted to know about bats. And again,
you know the reasons for the decline in there. There's
all kinds of reasons obviously out there for you, pesticide, misuse,
destruction of roost sites, over harvesting, believe it or not
in some areas where they actually yeah, eat those. I
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guess climate change obviously in the in there. But at
the at the very top of the list, habitat loss. Again,
we can help all of these critters out been doing it.
That's been a concern in Europe a lot longer than
it has been here. And again that's not bringing in
and you will bring in a few chipmunks and squirrels
and things like that, but again, bringing back the habitat
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to help all of these great insects and pollinators and
the birds. Bringing back this population is very, very important.
But again it's a batweek dot org. Batweek dot org.
Should we pamper our bats too? Pamper your bats just
like you pamper your worms. Gem in Cincinnati, good morning,
Good morning, Ron. How are you great, Gem? And yourself?
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Good good.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm calling to see if it is too late in
the Cincinnati area to repair the dead spots in my lawn.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, here's the deal. You know, if it stays warm
like it has been for another three or four weeks,
yes you may luck out and then it'll come up.
The grass may come up and it start to grow.
What December brings to us weatherwise, we don't know. So
at this stage in the game, Gym, it's a roll
of the dice. It truly is where you're totally now
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in Mother Nature's hands. So what you may want to do,
if you don't want to risk, you know, having it
come up and then all of a sudden, get a
sudden cold snap and lose most of it, is get
the areas prepped, raked and ready to go and do
a dormant seating on there rather than seating and anticipation
of it coming up, and that would be feed the
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lawn like you normally would. I'd still if you haven't
done that, I'd still feed the lawn, give it that
one last feeding. But then go out and rake those areas,
clean them up, get them ready to go so that
once we get closer to the Christmas New Year's by
then it's not going to come up, or I like
to do it mid to late February. Then go out
and reseed those areas and freezing and throwing works that
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seed into the soil so that as the spring weather breaks,
the air and the soil temperatures are conducive for seed germination.
It starts to come up and you're ready to go.
So I'm at this stage in the game, I'm trying
to lean more people to dormance seeding rather than going
after it. Again, you can give it a try, and
it is a roll of the dice at this stage
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because it's awfully late.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Right, well, something to do around Valentine's Day, then.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's exactly that's good timing.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
For that awesome Okay, Well, thank you all.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Right, jam good talking with you. Appreciate the call, listening
to our show as well. Again, you know, the thing
about the lawn is right now, you still give it
that last feeding. Absolutely, you can still spot treat the
weeds absolutely if needed, keep mowing as it's growing. Once
it stops growing, you can stop mowing. But as long
as you're getting some growth out of it, keep mowing.
And the other thing to remember is if it stopped
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growing and you really don't need to mow it as
much or as often, and you still have leaves falling
into the lawn, into the lawn, raise that more up
and grind those leaves back into the nice existing mature turf. Now,
if you've done seating. Different story, I wouldn't be doing
that if you've got new lawn that you did you
were able to get in and it's growing for the
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you know, the fall for the first time. Probably wouldn't
do it as much. But I definitely can mow those
the leaves back into a mature turf by setting that
more up and continue to chop those up put them
back into the turf as needed, so you can keep
doing that as well. And then, like I said me personally,
at this stage in the game, you're getting awfully, awfully late.
Let's start looking at dormant seating at the end of
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this year or sometime in mid to late February, I
think would be absolutely wonderful. Don't forget. You can still
plant spring flowering bulbs, tulips, daffodils, you know, all the
minor bulbs. If you've got a lot of deer in
your area, dafts, hyacinths, aliens, frittile area crocus, snow drops, grapeiasons,
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those are all pretty much low brows. When it comes
to deer, they stay away from most of those, So
there's a lot of low brows or I don't like
to say deer resistant but low brows bulbs that can
still be planted. Garden stores still have them where they
would sell plants still have them. If they do, they're
usually on sale. By now. We're getting close to be
scarf those up. Still plenty of time to plant. Do
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some in containers. I love doing them in containers, putting
them in the garage or the unheated shed over the wintertime.
They have to stay cold and dormant over the winter.
Bring them back out in the springtime and it's a
great little perk pick me up, perk up type of
a nice little container, or some spring flowering bulbs to
give to friends, to neighbors, to bring in the house,
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whatever it may be. But still plenty of time to
plant those bulbs. And still time to plant garlic if
you can find garlic out there, especially you know, if
you're in our area in the Ohio, love those hard
necked varieties. You can still plant that. Still time to
get that in the ground. It's actually better to plant
it in the fall than it is in the spring.
It can be planted in the spring, but you're going
to get better clothes, better overall performance if you plant
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in the fall versus in the springtime. Keep enhancing your soils.
Danny was kidding me about pampering your worms, but that's
what it's all about. Keep adding that organic matter back
to the soil, whether you're vertical mulching in the gardens
where you can put some down in those tunnels, whether
you're doing some light tilling or just kind of spading
the soil, adding back some finely ground leaves, compost, whatever
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may be. Keep adding that organic matter back to the
soil very very important. And last but not least too
early to put the roses to bed. Don't be cutting
them back. And again with the hydrangeas. It's been very
confusing this week with a lot of people saying can
I cut them back?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Why do I prune? If you're confused about hydrangeas, email me.
I'll send you a tip sheet on pruning hydrangeas, When
to prune, the proper timing. Far as I'm concerned, at
this stage, the only thing I could see be doing
as you go into the fall season, late fall and
winter is deadheading if you want to get rid of
those old flowers. Otherwise, for the most part, we're going
to leave all those along and do most of our
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heavy pruning and clean up in the spring, not in
the fall. Quick break, we come back, a little home
improvement from Gary Sullivan and then of course Buggy Joe
Boggs here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (14:28):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for a little home improvement from the main, the myth,
the legend, the most listened to home improvement show host
in the entire world, the entire solar system, even out
there in the black hole. They listened to him, way
way out there, his website, Garysullivan Online dot com. Ladies
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and gentlemen, the one, the only, mister Gary Sullivan Morning,
mister Wilson, mister Sullivan, sir, How was Halloween?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Halloween was eventful at the Sullivan Establishment.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Why is that? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
We didn't have many trigger treats.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Did you have candy? We did you? Did you still do? They?
They didn't have to pay for it. Did they No?
Come on, I'm just kidding. Come on, let me ask
you a question. Dan and I were talking about this
this morning. I noticed that we went over and watched
our grandkids take off for trigger treating, and as we
were leaving there, driving down the street, I didn't notice
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as many front porch lights on as I have in
the past. And we got back to our neighborhood, I
noticed that not a lot of our neighbors had their
porch lights on as in the past. And I obviously
was sprinkling a little bit here and there. Yeah, but
over the last two or three years, I feel like
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I'm not seeing the trigger treaters like we used to.
I agree. Could that be something that is changing over time?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I do. We had that discussion as the the throngs
were But yeah, you know, there's a lot of things.
I watched my own kids with their kids. It seems
like different neighborhoods have nice, big parties. There's my daughter
put well, we just finished our one millionth pre Halloween party.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah right, no, I'm right.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's kind of thing like that. And you got school
and the churches they do is trunk or treats, right,
And yeah, I think it's the going house to house thing.
I don't know, maybe it's just the neighborhood. But we
got a lot of young folks in our neighborhoods, so
I was kind of surprised it wasn't as busy it was,
and it has been waning the last three or four years.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All right, Now, this sounds old fashion. It sounds like
something your dad would my dad would say, but uh
is it? Could one of the other reasons be I mean,
you know, Halloween candy is plentiful anymore, Yeah, I think,
And I not being old fashioned. The old used to be.
That's what I'm saying. I don't want to that's something
I'm looking at. But but seriously, think about this. You know,
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Halloween candies available all the time. You know, we used
to work for that stuff. When you went out there
with your bag, you worked every house you could to
get as much case.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, I think that still goes on out there. My
great kids. I can tell you exactly every piece they got,
I swear.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, yeah, but the little kids go after that. But
on the same token, we already have it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well, could be, could be, yeah, it could be. You know,
world's busier too. I don't know a lot of reasons,
but I.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Do think people decorating for it.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, I think the decorating is definitely increased. I think
the parties that neighborhoods slash families have have increased. I
think other businesses or churches or schools they get their
parties in yep. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Maybe maybe it's taking a bite out of the old
fashioned trigger treating.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, he's a plentiful, especially if you go to,
as my daughter says, a million pre Halloween parties. That
could be a little exaggeration on the part.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Second thing, we want your opinion on, Oh, tonight, at
two this morning and coming up at two am, we're
going to turn our clocks back. We fall back to
the normal normal time, right. Are you a daylight saving
time person or are you the normal time person or
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doesn't matter person?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
A good?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That's three of.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Us, is that right?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, just leave it alone, all right? I get that too,
you know, I mean, you got all kids playing all
sports all the time, that late evening's probably pretty nice
to have. But I like normal time. I'm with you,
and I think it depends where you live in the
time zone too. Like we're on the edge of eastern time, right,
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the western edge, right, So it's he's till what dead
of summer ten o'clock nine fifty something like that, easily.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like that. I don't either, all right,
I just want to see where you were on. No,
I don't think so that's just a person's opinion.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Danny's quick to say yes.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, but Dan agreed also, so there you go.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, well he's an old man and he's.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Never had apple butter. Oh that's what he said, never
had apple butter.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah that's what I that's what he said. And they
didn't have as many trigger treats in there your uh
neighborhood either. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I really do think there's just other activities going on
and betime, Halloween comes around, party's.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Over, decorate, have fun with that, and that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
In fact, the kids we even had, we had, we
didn't have many. I don't even we got the double digits.
But I mean there was a couple tiny kids with dad,
and then there was a group of teenagers, two groups
of teenagers, and I think that's about it.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Who'd you dress up as me? There you go? He dressed.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Where did dickens out of them runs?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
All you gotta do is open and that's what Joe
Boggs doesn't need a mask. He just opens the door
and they scream and run.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yeah, so I have to ask my mother. I have
to ask my kids how they experienced. They both live
in pretty uh you know, I'll be curious developments, but
a lot a lot of young families. I know my
daughter does in Charlotte. She lives in a place like that.
My son up here, I have to check with him
what their take on it is.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But are you going to talk about home improvement at
all today?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I am?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Okay, I really am.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
We're gonna get you ready, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Sounds good? Gary Sullivan come on his website again. Is
Gary Sullivan online dot com. Go enjoy the leftover Halloween
candy you have there?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
All right? Meeting you now?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh there you go, coming up next, buggy. Joe Boggs
here in the garden with Run Wilson.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
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Speaker 4 (20:58):
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Speaker 1 (22:50):
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Ladies and gentlemen. He doesn't use a mask for Halloween, No,
not in not at all. He just opens the door
and his kids run and scared. He didn't even laugh.
The one the only.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh, Bucky, I didn't know I was on yet.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You're on, I on, You're on? Yeah, all right, how
was Halloween for you?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh fantastic man. I made out like a bandit. You know.
People were just throwing uh, you know, just throwing candy
at me, just get me off the porch.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So they opened the door and they throw their candy
at you.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
They just knocked on the door and give one of
his crazy laughs, and they.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Just know I didn't even need to do that, you know,
And I noticed that back. You know, my kids are
all grown and I have. You know, I have two
grandchildren now that they're down in Louisville, So I uh,
I got to sneak down there next year and help
them out, because that's what I noticed when I was
taking the kids around, and you know that they seemed
to do much better, you know, if I if I
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stepped up on the porch with them, right, you know
that I'm making all that up.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
But I.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Heard you and Gary talking, and it does seem there
were not many porch lights on in my particular neighborhood,
a lot less than before, and I just seemed like
a lot less trick or treating.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, I don't know, is it? Is it fading away?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Well, you know, my wife pointed something out that I
don't like to admit, and I have a feeling you
don't either, And she said, well, you know, the kids
in the neighborhood have largely grown up.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, but but yeah, you know, but true. But again,
you know, even the neighborhoods that have younger kids. But
you know, at work, we're saying they didn't have as
many kids as they normally do. And of course we
had a little bit of misty rain and that kind
of I realize that holds him back.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well, yeah, but I just as.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Many porch lights on you as you're driving around. I
just didn't seem like, you know, a lot of decorations.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's what's interesting to me is
that it seems like, I mean, you go down some
neighbor I was on a neighborhood street a week or
so ago, going out to take a look at something.
And I need to explain that that kind of came
out range, so any right, So what I was going
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to take a look at was some aphids and willows
and then we'll talk about that. And then I I
thanks to today and I got to say his name
because he works for Great Parks of Hamla County and
and Dave Raybender sent me some pictures of giant willow
aphids and a bold faced hornets nest. It was only
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like a foot off the ground. Yeah, well, but I
was I had another uh email about giant will Well,
I didn't know they were giant willoway fads. And that's
what I was going to look at last week. And
as I was driving to the neighborhood to get to
you know, to do what you and I, you know
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called sight and visit, you know, just to take a
look at this tree. I was amazed. It was almost
like Halloween was rivaling Christmas with decorations. You know, in
this one particular area there, almost every house had something.
And you know that's that wasn't kind of that way.
Uh yeah. We would have pumpkins out right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, pumpkins and light them up and that was you.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Know, that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That was about it. I didn't I don't want to
be like that's the way we used to do it
kind of a thing. But you know, it's it's it's fun.
And it's amazing what people do put in their yards
now with those ten foot skeletons and I don't get that,
but oh my goodness, all of those things. But I
don't know, it just doesn't seem like the trigger treat thing.
And I don't know. The candies available readily available, you
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don't have to really work for it anymore. Again, I
selling my grandfather.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Oh man, this is but people just tuned in. I
had a couple of crimagions on, you know, like on
the Muppet.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Wow, that would be that would be we'd have to
be more Gary Sullivan's age to qualify for this well,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I was hearing you guys talking about about the so
called so called normal time when it gets dark like
at two in the afternoon, you know, and that's uh,
you know, and I've noticed something because you know, older
people tend to go to bed earlier, so they are
usually the ones that like normal times.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well there you go. So Joe Boggs, mister sleep in
late and we actually get it out of bed to
do this segment.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Oh man, you got circling around. I do like daylight saving.
I know you well, it's photography.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I get.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, yes, this time of the year.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I wasn't even going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Well, I know you knew a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know I knew they were I I know you knew.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I know I knew.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Hey. By the way, a good friend Mary see you
over in the Cole Rain area. Send me an email.
She remember me and send me an email this past
week and said, just want to let you know that, uh,
stink bugs are extremely bad here right now. And she
said the lady bugs Asian lady beatles are also unbelievable
right now. So because we were talking about you know,
(28:54):
I have seen her and she said they're just unin
dated with them, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It always it has always amazed me, and I don't
think I've looked. I don't believe. I don't believe there's
been a lot of work, a lot of research done
on this. You know how you know, what are all
the population drivers, you know, for these these home invaders.
Remember I said that I didn't even see, you know,
(29:21):
really good research on what would drive box seller bugs
to start moving? Now we do know there's been good
research done on Asian lady beetles. In fact, well, that
connection to soybean is great. Yeah, it's that's been noted.
But also that this this rise in temperature and then
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falling temperature, then rise again, that roller coaster that's been documented.
But you know, in terms of okay, why can you
have a real challenge in one spot and go a
few miles down the road you don't see any you
know that. That's what I'm talking about when I say
highly you know, when I'm writing these legal alerts, and
(30:04):
I often use the phrase highly localized, I use the
phrase localized meaning Okay, it might.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Be in.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Cincinnati, it's not in Columbus. Right. When I say highly localized,
I'm intending to mean, you know, just one part of Cincinnati,
and we've seen that with these these home invaders. You know,
sometimes it's pretty obvious. Ron for example, the western conifer
seed bug. Well, you know, if somebody has a lot
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of mature conifers, particularly white pine and used to be
Austrian pine, we had a lot more of those. But
if you had a lot of conifers or jackpine in
our area, right, because we're going to have that, then okay,
you're more likely to have those insects near near your home.
There was a site visits I made a few years ago.
(31:00):
We talked about on the radio where a person had
They were beautiful. They had norways, you know, all the
way around the back and in part of the sides
of their of their of their property. And it was
the windbreak that was the idea and it worked well.
Plus you know, they they had a well spaced and
(31:21):
that that's something is extremely important because you get confers
too close together, no matters almost no matter what. Arbivity
can grow pretty close together. But you put spruce very
close together, and what happens you and I've seen it
all the time. You start, yeah, they start shading the
lower branches that they just start and you know, pretty
(31:44):
soon you can see through, you can see your neighbor.
And if you plan them so you wouldn't, well you
lost that screening. But these were these were properly spaced,
They were beautiful and they were probably going to be
good for a lot of a lot more years. But
some are producing some pretty heavy cones and matured. And
the reason I made the visit was I'd really never
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seen me, you know, the western connoverce seed budg bug,
which I wish we wouldn't call it western because we
have a lot of them, but they were all over
the place because of the cones. So again, you know,
sometimes it's explained just by things like that. And I
think we have.
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But think about this during the breaks. Never had apple
butter in his life.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I have an apple butter story.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh man, Well, we'll take a break. We'll learn more
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(35:17):
Ryan Ron Wilson's time for part two of the Buggy
Joe Boggs Report. By the way, apple butter. Apple butter
originated in Germany Belgium area and was brought to the
Appalasia by the Pennsylvania Dutch. I didn't know that, and
the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Well, I hear is the thing. So if Andy's never
had and he's never had apple butter, then we gotta
we got to start him off with good apple butter.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well, there's a there's a recipe on our website this
week from Rita. It's called mister Wilson's apple Butter. I have.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Well, I have to look at it. I have to
see what Because I was the chief stir for our
family apple butter ritual. Every year we made that. We
had a big copper kettle over an open fire, and
I don't even recall the number of quarts of apple
butter that we would that we would make. And of
course true apple butter of ficionados will tell you that
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you have kind of different types of apple butter important
it is like, of course, some of that's based on apples.
Because this was in Clay County, West Virginia, home of
the Golden Delicious Apple Festival. So you probably guess what
was a dominant apple in in our apple butter. We're
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Golden Delicious apples and they've got they have a very
high sugar content, very sweet. But at the end of
the day, though, what did you flavor it with? And
you had you had the cinnamon group, you had the
cloves group, and then you had the straight We don't
want a lot more than just apple group. I was
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kind of in the apple group, to be honest. I cinnamon.
I love cinnamon, and a little touch of cinnamon was
not too much. The clothes could cause my mouth to
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Sometimes.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Well, now that's so, here is the thing, and we're
just gonna have to hop in the car and do
a road trip, or a person could probably get this
in another way. But my wife and I came across
the best apple butter that I have had since since
we made it from scratch. Well it could be, I suppose,
(37:40):
but I will tell you that. But my wife and
I were down in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. Remember we had
we talked about it. We're on vacation Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg,
and we were looking for a spot to eat. And
you know, normally I can't mention things because you know,
extensions tax supported, so we don't. But I'm not mentioning
this because because you know, I'm I have a say.
(38:03):
Except the Apple Barn, I'm just sat. Oh you know it?
Then I didn't. I knew nothing about it. It has
the best apple butter. And here is something that I'm
gonna I'm going to put this out there, and so
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apple butter fisionados those that make and consume apple butter.
And now I have to look at Rita's recipe vinegar.
How many put how many people put vinegar in their
apple butter recipe?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Just the Bog's family and Apple Barn and Apple Barn.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, that was really interesting. My wife was looking at
the ingredients, and she likes vinegar. I guess, well, I
you know, it was really interesting. We you know, I
recipe was I was just passed down. Seriously. I mean
it was you know, my mom and dad, grandmother and grandfather,
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you know, everybody's involved, and this is just how they
made it for generations. And at some point there was
there was. It wasn't at the beginning, as at some point,
and I don't remember the ratio. I wish I did.
I couldn't give you the recipe right now, because like
I said, I was just a stir big wooden paddle.
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But at some point we would add in the vinegar
and and my dad started wondering, well, you know, what
would happen if we didn't, So we took off a
portion of the batch. Now, granted, this is a little
bit of a test.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That wasn't done just like the rest of it, over
the open fire, but we brought it inside, continuing cooking
on the stove without the vinegar and ron. You could
I mean you couldn't place what was missing or what
was in the recipe, but you could definitely tell the difference. Yeah,
and it wasn't a lot, but I would be I,
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you know, i'd be very interested with the folks of
the apple barn. Where did they because that vinegar idea,
you've very you know, and now I've been I've been
looking into it. Yeah, it's it's a asque other people
who grew up, you know, making apple butter, same thing,
and so boy, it does make a difference, not a lot.
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I will tell you that.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
By the way, I didn't finish that paragraph. I was
reading about the appellation that and the Dutch and all itself.
I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, I was done until you
started saying this. But the last paragraph says in the
American South, apple butter production is often a family event
because of the amount of labor required. Oh yeah, see,
(40:48):
I used to see that Boggs family from West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Oh there you go. I mean, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It was, you know it was. It's often a family
event because the amount of labor require you put in
the camera, soa I saw it.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will tell you it was almost
like a family reunion, you know, because it does take
a lot of work, you know, getting the apples. We
had a we had kind of a small orchard ourselves,
and then we would go to another orchard. Uh. In fact,
it was the orchard where the Golden Delicious apple was
(41:24):
first discovered. And I talked about that that is a
The Golden Delicious apple was not something that was that
was bread. It wasn't something selected, you know, you know,
crossing between different It was it was a wild well
I should say that being very careful. But it was
a naturally occurring mutation.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Obviously, So when when you're cutting up those apples, if
there happened to be a worm in there or half
a worm in that cut, did you just make it
in there?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Dan wants to know why they call it apple butter.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, it's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
That's because of the consistency.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
It is because of the consistency, and.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
You don't need butter when you put that on whatever
you're putting it on.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, and also the constant kind of stirring as you're
making it. I mean, it does have, like you say,
a butter consistency. Oh man, that's like it, oh I do?
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, fact, fresh cat heads.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
And warm you know you know what.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Butter? I would have one with apple butter, and I
would have one with sorghum.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Oh good molasses. Now there is another discussion sum sorghum
or or molasses.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
That is a good.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
You know, I think I agree with you because we
can grows sorghum. I mean, you know, I grew up thinking.
I mean I thought we were growing sugarcane and it
wasn't true. I mean, obviously it West Virginia, you couldn't.
But uh, but yeah, we could grow sorghum. And and
there was that's another story.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Buckweed, harnted, buckwheed, honey takes just like sorghum.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Oh my gosh. Okay, now that I'm starving Joe Boggs
this morning.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
That was the funnest segment. I enjoyed it. Now I'm
starving to death.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Always a pleasure again. The website is bygl dot OSU
dot EEDU. Have a great weekend and go Buck and
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course with Danny Glees and our producer, because as you
all well know, without Danny, none of this stuff would happen.
So Dan, thank you always for all that you do
and next weekend we'll be tasting apple butter here in
(43:51):
the studios, but don't tell anybody because we're not supposed
to eat the studios. Now do yourself a favor. Still
time to plant a tree or two or three. Keep
planting those native plants, beat pollinator friendly, take care of
those bats, pam for your worms, get your kids and
dogs involved with gardening, and make it the best weekend
of your life. See you.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
God.
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
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Ron Wilson online dot com. Planning of the week this
week Amarillis bulbs, because if you want them for a
color for the holiday season, you need to start potting
those up here in the next week or two. If
you're buying the kits now, if you've got if you
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if you've grown them and you put it away the
first of September or sometime during September. Remember in storage
they need to stay dormant at least six to eight
weeks before you bring them out. So that's why the timing.
You know, if you do it by the mid September
or by the end of October, first of November, it's
(01:18):
time to bring them out, get them fired back up
again and see if you get them to flower for
the holiday season. But if you haven't done that, you know,
and you get out to your local garden centers. Independ
the garden centers, you will start to see the Amory
kits and the amberialist bulbs showing up there for the holidays.
And like I say, now's the time to get them
potted up if you need them for the holiday season.
(01:40):
Color because of the fact that it takes six to
eight weeks to get them into bloom. Paper white's a
different story. If you get those, that's about a three
week period and those things are up and in flower
and smelling up the house, so you get away a
little bit closer like Thanksgiving before you pot those up
for the holiday season. But again, you'll find that on
our website and all the tips about how to grow
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them and get them to flour again, et cetera, et cetera.
Arina's recipe making apple butter m one of my favorites.
A matter of fact, it's called apple butter for mister Wilson.
I love it. Who doesn't like apple butter? And Danny
Gleason's never tried it before. No, I've never tried it.
So we'll have to bring him in some apple butter
next week and see if he likes. Happen. Oh, I'll
(02:23):
definitely try it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I guarantee you you're gonna will you will love it.
So anyway, you can check it all out at our website.
Ron Wilson online dot com. Real quick. Also, you know,
we talk a lot about the pollinators, the decline, things
that we can do to help increase pollinator populations. We
talk about the butterflies and the decline in the monarchs
and things like that. What we can do to increase
(02:45):
the populations, you know, another one, birds are the same way,
and what we can do to garden for the birds
and of course bats. And this happens to be the
end of a National Bat Week, International Bat Week, to
try to bring the awareness around of bats and how
important they are in our systems as well, because I
mean to think about all they their natural form of
(03:05):
pest control. Obviously, I think a single brown bat can
consume over a thousand small insects like mosquitoes in just
one night. So again, planting for all of these And
every time I bring this up and I talk about,
you know, it's some monarchs and all the other butterflies
and all of the pollinators and the birds and the bats.
(03:28):
I still think about hen I confess to this about
fifteen years ago, maybe even longer. We always watched gardening
trends that come out of Europe and they're typically always
ahead of us when it comes to gardening trends they
can finally make it the United States. And one of
the gardening trends fifteen years ago or so was bringing
the wildlife into the garden. And I confess saying, I'm thinking,
(03:52):
who was wanting to garden to bring in the squirrels
and the rabbits and the groundhogs and the chipmunks. Why
would you want to do that? That ain't gonna make it? Well,
that wasn't what they were talking about. What they were
talking about is what we just mentioned, all the things
we can do to recreate the habits that habitats that
have been lost for the birds and the pollinators and
(04:13):
the bees and the butterflies and the bats, uh and
all of those out there. And again, to learn more
about that, and a lot of the bats kind of
go they kind of fly under the radar, get it.
But to learn more about it, there's a great website
that the Wildlife Federation put together. It's batweek dot org.
Very simple, batweek dot org, and it's about everything you
(04:35):
could ever imagine you wanted to know about bats. And again,
you know the reasons for the decline in there. There's
all kinds of reasons obviously out there for you, pesticide, misuse,
destruction of roost sites, over harvesting, believe it or not
in some areas where they actually yeah, eat those. I
(04:56):
guess climate change obviously in the in there. But at
the at the very top of the list, habitat loss. Again,
we can help all of these critters out been doing it.
That's been a concern in Europe a lot longer than
it has been here. And again that's not bringing in
and you will bring in a few chipmunks and squirrels
and things like that, but again, bringing back the habitat
(05:18):
to help all of these great insects and pollinators and
the birds. Bringing back this population is very, very important.
But again it's a batweek dot org. Batweek dot org.
Should we pamper our bats too? Pamper your bats just
like you pamper your worms. Gem in Cincinnati, good morning,
Good morning, Ron. How are you great, Gem? And yourself?
(05:40):
Good good.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm calling to see if it is too late in
the Cincinnati area to repair the dead spots in my lawn.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, here's the deal. You know, if it stays warm
like it has been for another three or four weeks,
yes you may luck out and then it'll come up.
The grass may come up and it start to grow.
What December brings to us weatherwise, we don't know. So
at this stage in the game, Gym, it's a roll
of the dice. It truly is where you're totally now
(06:11):
in Mother Nature's hands. So what you may want to do,
if you don't want to risk, you know, having it
come up and then all of a sudden, get a
sudden cold snap and lose most of it, is get
the areas prepped, raked and ready to go and do
a dormant seating on there rather than seating and anticipation
of it coming up, and that would be feed the
(06:34):
lawn like you normally would. I'd still if you haven't
done that, I'd still feed the lawn, give it that
one last feeding. But then go out and rake those areas,
clean them up, get them ready to go so that
once we get closer to the Christmas New Year's by
then it's not going to come up, or I like
to do it mid to late February. Then go out
and reseed those areas and freezing and throwing works that
(06:58):
seed into the soil so that as the spring weather breaks,
the air and the soil temperatures are conducive for seed germination.
It starts to come up and you're ready to go.
So I'm at this stage in the game, I'm trying
to lean more people to dormance seeding rather than going
after it. Again, you can give it a try, and
it is a roll of the dice at this stage
(07:18):
because it's awfully late.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Right, well, something to do around Valentine's Day, then.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's exactly that's good timing.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
For that awesome Okay, Well, thank you all.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Right, jam good talking with you. Appreciate the call, listening
to our show as well. Again, you know, the thing
about the lawn is right now, you still give it
that last feeding. Absolutely, you can still spot treat the
weeds absolutely if needed, keep mowing as it's growing. Once
it stops growing, you can stop mowing. But as long
as you're getting some growth out of it, keep mowing.
And the other thing to remember is if it stopped
(07:51):
growing and you really don't need to mow it as
much or as often, and you still have leaves falling
into the lawn, into the lawn, raise that more up
and grind those leaves back into the nice existing mature turf. Now,
if you've done seating. Different story, I wouldn't be doing
that if you've got new lawn that you did you
were able to get in and it's growing for the
(08:12):
you know, the fall for the first time. Probably wouldn't
do it as much. But I definitely can mow those
the leaves back into a mature turf by setting that
more up and continue to chop those up put them
back into the turf as needed, so you can keep
doing that as well. And then, like I said me personally,
at this stage in the game, you're getting awfully, awfully late.
Let's start looking at dormant seating at the end of
(08:34):
this year or sometime in mid to late February, I
think would be absolutely wonderful. Don't forget. You can still
plant spring flowering bulbs, tulips, daffodils, you know, all the
minor bulbs. If you've got a lot of deer in
your area, dafts, hyacinths, aliens, frittile area crocus, snow drops, grapeiasons,
(08:56):
those are all pretty much low brows. When it comes
to deer, they stay away from most of those, So
there's a lot of low brows or I don't like
to say deer resistant but low brows bulbs that can
still be planted. Garden stores still have them where they
would sell plants still have them. If they do, they're
usually on sale. By now. We're getting close to be
scarf those up. Still plenty of time to plant. Do
(09:17):
some in containers. I love doing them in containers, putting
them in the garage or the unheated shed over the wintertime.
They have to stay cold and dormant over the winter.
Bring them back out in the springtime and it's a
great little perk pick me up, perk up type of
a nice little container, or some spring flowering bulbs to
give to friends, to neighbors, to bring in the house,
(09:37):
whatever it may be. But still plenty of time to
plant those bulbs. And still time to plant garlic if
you can find garlic out there, especially you know, if
you're in our area in the Ohio, love those hard
necked varieties. You can still plant that. Still time to
get that in the ground. It's actually better to plant
it in the fall than it is in the spring.
It can be planted in the spring, but you're going
to get better clothes, better overall performance if you plant
(10:01):
in the fall versus in the springtime. Keep enhancing your soils.
Danny was kidding me about pampering your worms, but that's
what it's all about. Keep adding that organic matter back
to the soil, whether you're vertical mulching in the gardens
where you can put some down in those tunnels, whether
you're doing some light tilling or just kind of spading
the soil, adding back some finely ground leaves, compost, whatever
(10:23):
may be. Keep adding that organic matter back to the
soil very very important. And last but not least too
early to put the roses to bed. Don't be cutting
them back. And again with the hydrangeas. It's been very
confusing this week with a lot of people saying can
I cut them back?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Why do I prune? If you're confused about hydrangeas, email me.
I'll send you a tip sheet on pruning hydrangeas, When
to prune, the proper timing. Far as I'm concerned, at
this stage, the only thing I could see be doing
as you go into the fall season, late fall and
winter is deadheading if you want to get rid of
those old flowers. Otherwise, for the most part, we're going
to leave all those along and do most of our
(11:01):
heavy pruning and clean up in the spring, not in
the fall. Quick break, we come back, a little home
improvement from Gary Sullivan and then of course Buggy Joe
Boggs here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 6 (13:41):
I'm sick, nervous.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for a little home improvement from the main, the myth,
the legend, the most listened to home improvement show host
in the entire world, the entire solar system, even out
there in the black hole. They listened to him, way
way out there, his website, Garysullivan Online dot com. Ladies
(14:49):
and gentlemen, the one, the only, mister Gary Sullivan Morning,
mister Wilson, mister Sullivan, sir, How was Halloween?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Halloween was eventful at the Sullivan Establishment.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Why is that? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
We didn't have many trigger treats.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Did you have candy? We did you? Did you still do? They?
They didn't have to pay for it. Did they No?
Come on, I'm just kidding. Come on, let me ask
you a question. Dan and I were talking about this
this morning. I noticed that we went over and watched
our grandkids take off for trigger treating, and as we
were leaving there, driving down the street, I didn't notice
(15:26):
as many front porch lights on as I have in
the past. And we got back to our neighborhood, I
noticed that not a lot of our neighbors had their
porch lights on as in the past. And I obviously
was sprinkling a little bit here and there. Yeah, but
over the last two or three years, I feel like
(15:46):
I'm not seeing the trigger treaters like we used to.
I agree. Could that be something that is changing over time?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I do. We had that discussion as the the throngs
were But yeah, you know, there's a lot of things.
I watched my own kids with their kids. It seems
like different neighborhoods have nice, big parties. There's my daughter
put well, we just finished our one millionth pre Halloween party.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah right, no, I'm right.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's kind of thing like that. And you got school
and the churches they do is trunk or treats, right,
And yeah, I think it's the going house to house thing.
I don't know, maybe it's just the neighborhood. But we
got a lot of young folks in our neighborhoods, so
I was kind of surprised it wasn't as busy it was,
and it has been waning the last three or four years.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All right, Now, this sounds old fashion. It sounds like
something your dad would my dad would say, but uh
is it? Could one of the other reasons be I mean,
you know, Halloween candy is plentiful anymore, Yeah, I think,
And I not being old fashioned. The old used to be.
That's what I'm saying. I don't want to that's something
I'm looking at. But but seriously, think about this. You know,
(17:02):
Halloween candies available all the time. You know, we used
to work for that stuff. When you went out there
with your bag, you worked every house you could to
get as much case.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, I think that still goes on out there. My
great kids. I can tell you exactly every piece they got,
I swear.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, yeah, but the little kids go after that. But
on the same token, we already have it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well, could be, could be, yeah, it could be. You know,
world's busier too. I don't know a lot of reasons,
but I.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Do think people decorating for it.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, I think the decorating is definitely increased. I think
the parties that neighborhoods slash families have have increased. I
think other businesses or churches or schools they get their
parties in yep. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Maybe maybe it's taking a bite out of the old
fashioned trigger treating.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, he's a plentiful, especially if you go to,
as my daughter says, a million pre Halloween parties. That
could be a little exaggeration on the part.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Second thing, we want your opinion on, Oh, tonight, at
two this morning and coming up at two am, we're
going to turn our clocks back. We fall back to
the normal normal time, right. Are you a daylight saving
time person or are you the normal time person or
(18:30):
doesn't matter person?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
A good?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That's three of.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Us, is that right?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, just leave it alone, all right? I get that too,
you know, I mean, you got all kids playing all
sports all the time, that late evening's probably pretty nice
to have. But I like normal time. I'm with you,
and I think it depends where you live in the
time zone too. Like we're on the edge of eastern time, right,
(18:57):
the western edge, right, So it's he's till what dead
of summer ten o'clock nine fifty something like that, easily.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like that. I don't either, all right,
I just want to see where you were on. No,
I don't think so that's just a person's opinion.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Danny's quick to say yes.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, but Dan agreed also, so there you go.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, well he's an old man and he's.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Never had apple butter. Oh that's what he said, never
had apple butter.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah that's what I that's what he said. And they
didn't have as many trigger treats in there your uh
neighborhood either. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I really do think there's just other activities going on
and betime, Halloween comes around, party's.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Over, decorate, have fun with that, and that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
In fact, the kids we even had, we had, we
didn't have many. I don't even we got the double digits.
But I mean there was a couple tiny kids with dad,
and then there was a group of teenagers, two groups
of teenagers, and I think that's about it.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Who'd you dress up as me? There you go? He dressed.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Where did dickens out of them runs?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
All you gotta do is open and that's what Joe
Boggs doesn't need a mask. He just opens the door
and they scream and run.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yeah, so I have to ask my mother. I have
to ask my kids how they experienced. They both live
in pretty uh you know, I'll be curious developments, but
a lot a lot of young families. I know my
daughter does in Charlotte. She lives in a place like that.
My son up here, I have to check with him
what their take on it is.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But are you going to talk about home improvement at
all today?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I am?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Okay, I really am.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
We're gonna get you ready, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Sounds good? Gary Sullivan come on his website again. Is
Gary Sullivan online dot com. Go enjoy the leftover Halloween
candy you have there?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
All right? Meeting you now?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh there you go, coming up next, buggy. Joe Boggs
here in the garden with Run Wilson.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
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Welcome back, You're in the Guiden with Ron Wilson. It
is time for you got it the Buddy Joe Bob
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(23:11):
Ladies and gentlemen. He doesn't use a mask for Halloween, No,
not in not at all. He just opens the door
and his kids run and scared. He didn't even laugh.
The one the only.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh, Bucky, I didn't know I was on yet.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You're on, I on, You're on? Yeah, all right, how
was Halloween for you?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh fantastic man. I made out like a bandit. You know.
People were just throwing uh, you know, just throwing candy
at me, just get me off the porch.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So they opened the door and they throw their candy
at you.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
They just knocked on the door and give one of
his crazy laughs, and they.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Just know I didn't even need to do that, you know,
And I noticed that back. You know, my kids are
all grown and I have. You know, I have two
grandchildren now that they're down in Louisville, So I uh,
I got to sneak down there next year and help
them out, because that's what I noticed when I was
taking the kids around, and you know that they seemed
to do much better, you know, if I if I
(24:14):
stepped up on the porch with them, right, you know
that I'm making all that up.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
But I.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Heard you and Gary talking, and it does seem there
were not many porch lights on in my particular neighborhood,
a lot less than before, and I just seemed like
a lot less trick or treating.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, I don't know, is it? Is it fading away?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Well, you know, my wife pointed something out that I
don't like to admit, and I have a feeling you
don't either, And she said, well, you know, the kids
in the neighborhood have largely grown up.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, but but yeah, you know, but true. But again,
you know, even the neighborhoods that have younger kids. But
you know, at work, we're saying they didn't have as
many kids as they normally do. And of course we
had a little bit of misty rain and that kind
of I realize that holds him back.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well, yeah, but I just as.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Many porch lights on you as you're driving around. I
just didn't seem like, you know, a lot of decorations.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's what's interesting to me is
that it seems like, I mean, you go down some
neighbor I was on a neighborhood street a week or
so ago, going out to take a look at something.
And I need to explain that that kind of came
out range, so any right, So what I was going
(25:39):
to take a look at was some aphids and willows
and then we'll talk about that. And then I I
thanks to today and I got to say his name
because he works for Great Parks of Hamla County and
and Dave Raybender sent me some pictures of giant willow
aphids and a bold faced hornets nest. It was only
(26:02):
like a foot off the ground. Yeah, well, but I
was I had another uh email about giant will Well,
I didn't know they were giant willoway fads. And that's
what I was going to look at last week. And
as I was driving to the neighborhood to get to
you know, to do what you and I, you know
(26:22):
called sight and visit, you know, just to take a
look at this tree. I was amazed. It was almost
like Halloween was rivaling Christmas with decorations. You know, in
this one particular area there, almost every house had something.
And you know that's that wasn't kind of that way.
Uh yeah. We would have pumpkins out right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, pumpkins and light them up and that was you.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Know, that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That was about it. I didn't I don't want to
be like that's the way we used to do it
kind of a thing. But you know, it's it's it's fun.
And it's amazing what people do put in their yards
now with those ten foot skeletons and I don't get that,
but oh my goodness, all of those things. But I
don't know, it just doesn't seem like the trigger treat thing.
And I don't know. The candies available readily available, you
(27:11):
don't have to really work for it anymore. Again, I
selling my grandfather.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Oh man, this is but people just tuned in. I
had a couple of crimagions on, you know, like on
the Muppet.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Wow, that would be that would be we'd have to
be more Gary Sullivan's age to qualify for this well,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I was hearing you guys talking about about the so
called so called normal time when it gets dark like
at two in the afternoon, you know, and that's uh,
you know, and I've noticed something because you know, older
people tend to go to bed earlier, so they are
usually the ones that like normal times.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well there you go. So Joe Boggs, mister sleep in
late and we actually get it out of bed to
do this segment.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Oh man, you got circling around. I do like daylight saving.
I know you well, it's photography.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I get.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, yes, this time of the year.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I wasn't even going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Well, I know you knew a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know I knew they were I I know you knew.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I know I knew.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Hey. By the way, a good friend Mary see you
over in the Cole Rain area. Send me an email.
She remember me and send me an email this past
week and said, just want to let you know that, uh,
stink bugs are extremely bad here right now. And she
said the lady bugs Asian lady beatles are also unbelievable
right now. So because we were talking about you know,
(28:54):
I have seen her and she said they're just unin
dated with them, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It always it has always amazed me, and I don't
think I've looked. I don't believe. I don't believe there's
been a lot of work, a lot of research done
on this. You know how you know, what are all
the population drivers, you know, for these these home invaders.
Remember I said that I didn't even see, you know,
(29:21):
really good research on what would drive box seller bugs
to start moving? Now we do know there's been good
research done on Asian lady beetles. In fact, well, that
connection to soybean is great. Yeah, it's that's been noted.
But also that this this rise in temperature and then
(29:42):
falling temperature, then rise again, that roller coaster that's been documented.
But you know, in terms of okay, why can you
have a real challenge in one spot and go a
few miles down the road you don't see any you
know that. That's what I'm talking about when I say
highly you know, when I'm writing these legal alerts, and
(30:04):
I often use the phrase highly localized, I use the
phrase localized meaning Okay, it might.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Be in.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Cincinnati, it's not in Columbus. Right. When I say highly localized,
I'm intending to mean, you know, just one part of Cincinnati,
and we've seen that with these these home invaders. You know,
sometimes it's pretty obvious. Ron for example, the western conifer
seed bug. Well, you know, if somebody has a lot
(30:39):
of mature conifers, particularly white pine and used to be
Austrian pine, we had a lot more of those. But
if you had a lot of conifers or jackpine in
our area, right, because we're going to have that, then okay,
you're more likely to have those insects near near your home.
There was a site visits I made a few years ago.
(31:00):
We talked about on the radio where a person had
They were beautiful. They had norways, you know, all the
way around the back and in part of the sides
of their of their of their property. And it was
the windbreak that was the idea and it worked well.
Plus you know, they they had a well spaced and
(31:21):
that that's something is extremely important because you get confers
too close together, no matters almost no matter what. Arbivity
can grow pretty close together. But you put spruce very
close together, and what happens you and I've seen it
all the time. You start, yeah, they start shading the
lower branches that they just start and you know, pretty
(31:44):
soon you can see through, you can see your neighbor.
And if you plan them so you wouldn't, well you
lost that screening. But these were these were properly spaced,
They were beautiful and they were probably going to be
good for a lot of a lot more years. But
some are producing some pretty heavy cones and matured. And
the reason I made the visit was I'd really never
(32:06):
seen me, you know, the western connoverce seed budg bug,
which I wish we wouldn't call it western because we
have a lot of them, but they were all over
the place because of the cones. So again, you know,
sometimes it's explained just by things like that. And I
think we have.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
A break your own break.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Listen. I tell you we don't have to breathe at
some point.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
But think about this during the breaks. Never had apple
butter in his life.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I have an apple butter story.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh man, Well, we'll take a break. We'll learn more
about Joe's joke and a whole lot more after the break.
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(35:17):
Ryan Ron Wilson's time for part two of the Buggy
Joe Boggs Report. By the way, apple butter. Apple butter
originated in Germany Belgium area and was brought to the
Appalasia by the Pennsylvania Dutch. I didn't know that, and
the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Well, I hear is the thing. So if Andy's never
had and he's never had apple butter, then we gotta
we got to start him off with good apple butter.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well, there's a there's a recipe on our website this
week from Rita. It's called mister Wilson's apple Butter. I have.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Well, I have to look at it. I have to
see what Because I was the chief stir for our
family apple butter ritual. Every year we made that. We
had a big copper kettle over an open fire, and
I don't even recall the number of quarts of apple
butter that we would that we would make. And of
course true apple butter of ficionados will tell you that
(36:20):
you have kind of different types of apple butter important
it is like, of course, some of that's based on apples.
Because this was in Clay County, West Virginia, home of
the Golden Delicious Apple Festival. So you probably guess what
was a dominant apple in in our apple butter. We're
(36:41):
Golden Delicious apples and they've got they have a very
high sugar content, very sweet. But at the end of
the day, though, what did you flavor it with? And
you had you had the cinnamon group, you had the
cloves group, and then you had the straight We don't
want a lot more than just apple group. I was
(37:02):
kind of in the apple group, to be honest. I cinnamon.
I love cinnamon, and a little touch of cinnamon was
not too much. The clothes could cause my mouth to
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Sometimes.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Well, now that's so, here is the thing, and we're
just gonna have to hop in the car and do
a road trip, or a person could probably get this
in another way. But my wife and I came across
the best apple butter that I have had since since
we made it from scratch. Well it could be, I suppose,
(37:40):
but I will tell you that. But my wife and
I were down in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. Remember we had
we talked about it. We're on vacation Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg,
and we were looking for a spot to eat. And
you know, normally I can't mention things because you know,
extensions tax supported, so we don't. But I'm not mentioning
this because because you know, I'm I have a say.
(38:03):
Except the Apple Barn, I'm just sat. Oh you know it?
Then I didn't. I knew nothing about it. It has
the best apple butter. And here is something that I'm
gonna I'm going to put this out there, and so
(38:23):
apple butter fisionados those that make and consume apple butter.
And now I have to look at Rita's recipe vinegar.
How many put how many people put vinegar in their
apple butter recipe?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Just the Bog's family and Apple Barn and Apple Barn.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, that was really interesting. My wife was looking at
the ingredients, and she likes vinegar. I guess, well, I
you know, it was really interesting. We you know, I
recipe was I was just passed down. Seriously. I mean
it was you know, my mom and dad, grandmother and grandfather,
(39:03):
you know, everybody's involved, and this is just how they
made it for generations. And at some point there was
there was. It wasn't at the beginning, as at some point,
and I don't remember the ratio. I wish I did.
I couldn't give you the recipe right now, because like
I said, I was just a stir big wooden paddle.
(39:25):
But at some point we would add in the vinegar
and and my dad started wondering, well, you know, what
would happen if we didn't, So we took off a
portion of the batch. Now, granted, this is a little
bit of a test.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That wasn't done just like the rest of it, over
the open fire, but we brought it inside, continuing cooking
on the stove without the vinegar and ron. You could
I mean you couldn't place what was missing or what
was in the recipe, but you could definitely tell the difference. Yeah,
and it wasn't a lot, but I would be I,
(40:04):
you know, i'd be very interested with the folks of
the apple barn. Where did they because that vinegar idea,
you've very you know, and now I've been I've been
looking into it. Yeah, it's it's a asque other people
who grew up, you know, making apple butter, same thing,
and so boy, it does make a difference, not a lot.
(40:24):
I will tell you that.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
By the way, I didn't finish that paragraph. I was
reading about the appellation that and the Dutch and all itself.
I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, I was done until you
started saying this. But the last paragraph says in the
American South, apple butter production is often a family event
because of the amount of labor required. Oh yeah, see,
(40:48):
I used to see that Boggs family from West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Oh there you go. I mean, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It was, you know it was. It's often a family
event because the amount of labor require you put in
the camera, soa I saw it.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will tell you it was almost
like a family reunion, you know, because it does take
a lot of work, you know, getting the apples. We
had a we had kind of a small orchard ourselves,
and then we would go to another orchard. Uh. In fact,
it was the orchard where the Golden Delicious apple was
(41:24):
first discovered. And I talked about that that is a
The Golden Delicious apple was not something that was that
was bread. It wasn't something selected, you know, you know,
crossing between different It was it was a wild well
I should say that being very careful. But it was
a naturally occurring mutation.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Obviously, So when when you're cutting up those apples, if
there happened to be a worm in there or half
a worm in that cut, did you just make it
in there?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Dan wants to know why they call it apple butter.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, it's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
That's because of the consistency.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
It is because of the consistency, and.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
You don't need butter when you put that on whatever
you're putting it on.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, and also the constant kind of stirring as you're
making it. I mean, it does have, like you say,
a butter consistency. Oh man, that's like it, oh I do?
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, fact, fresh cat heads.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
And warm you know you know what.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Butter? I would have one with apple butter, and I
would have one with sorghum.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Oh good molasses. Now there is another discussion sum sorghum
or or molasses.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
That is a good.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
You know, I think I agree with you because we
can grows sorghum. I mean, you know, I grew up thinking.
I mean I thought we were growing sugarcane and it
wasn't true. I mean, obviously it West Virginia, you couldn't.
But uh, but yeah, we could grow sorghum. And and
there was that's another story.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Buckweed, harnted, buckwheed, honey takes just like sorghum.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Oh my gosh. Okay, now that I'm starving Joe Boggs
this morning.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
That was the funnest segment. I enjoyed it. Now I'm
starving to death.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Always a pleasure again. The website is bygl dot OSU
dot EEDU. Have a great weekend and go Buck and
go Bucks. You got it. Thank you, sir, Thanks to
all of our colors, Thanks for our sponsors. Thanks of
course with Danny Glees and our producer, because as you
all well know, without Danny, none of this stuff would happen.
So Dan, thank you always for all that you do
and next weekend we'll be tasting apple butter here in
(43:51):
the studios, but don't tell anybody because we're not supposed
to eat the studios. Now do yourself a favor. Still
time to plant a tree or two or three. Keep
planting those native plants, beat pollinator friendly, take care of
those bats, pam for your worms, get your kids and
dogs involved with gardening, and make it the best weekend
of your life. See you.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
God.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Gardening questions, Ron has the answers at one eight hundred
and eighty two three Talk You Are in the Garden
with Ron Wilson.
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