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Speaker 1 (00:35):
All right, total free number eight hundred Yo. See Danny
in the thing here when he would take a local intro,
then we come back and do our networking intro. He
takes his hand up in the air and does a
little click like he's dancing, like the somba or something.
It's like click, go anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, I could point a finger at you, but I
would be afraid I'd be pointing.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The wrong finger. Easy, now, easy, No, I wouldn't do
that to you. I know you wouldn't. I don't think
you've probably never did. And then have you. No, I'm
not gonna put you. I'm not gonna put you on. Yeah,
I put you on the standing yea again talking you
yaradying at eight hundred eight two three eight two five.
I don't forget our website. Ron Wilson Online dot Com.
Plan of the week. You know what it's gonna be
this week. The real Christmas tree, whether it's cut or
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bald and burl apped. Using that real Christmas tree and
get out early. Boy, the last couple of years they
have gone in a flash. So get out early and
get your tree and just keep it sleeved up. If
you're not ready to put it up yet put it
in a bucket of water or whatever, keep it nice
and fresh in the shade. And I had mentioned right
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before going into the break using a product called willproofer
will stop. And I'll explain that to you in just
a second. Because in the rest of the website you
got Rita's yummy Thanksgiving appetizer which looks absolutely outstanding. You
might want to give that a shot, a little bit
of a little spice to It's got a little lapino
in there for you. It's a cranberry jalipino cream cheese appetizer.
(01:57):
That doesn't that sound good? And you know, if if
it's coming from Rita Hikenfeld, it has to be good.
Don't forget her website. It's about eating dot com. But
be sure and check that out. And then every year
we put our white Castle hamburger stuffing recipe up on
our website. And if it sounds horrible to you, don't
say you don't like it until you try it. It's
(02:20):
pretty good. And every time I make that and take
it somewhere, you know, and somebody they taste it to go,
you know what, that's pretty darn good. The thing of
it is with the white Castle. And if you have
don't have White Castle in your area, you can buy
the frozen ones a lot of times in your grocery store,
but other places that put ketchup or muster on and
you can't use those, all right, got to use the
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white Castle. They tell you to take the pickles out,
I leave the pickles in. I like it with the
pickles in there. But anyway, that recipe's up there for you.
And Joe's got one of his great graphics up there.
I don't know who I look like there, somebody from
King of the Hill, one of the characters. But again
you can check it out a run Wilson online dot com.
I was talking about the cut Christmas trees and the
(03:04):
greens and all fresh greens in the house, keeping them
fresher by using a product called wilt stop or willproof,
and these are actually both of these are a pine
resin product, all natural that when you spray it on
the needles of these plants helps to seal the moisture
inside the needle, keep them fresher a little bit longer.
It's also used I have used it on winter rising rosecnes,
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like you know, getting the roses ready for the winter.
Spraying it on there to help keep moisture in those
needles or in those lee stems. You know, you can
use it outside for winter protection for evergreens, white pine spruce,
things like that that you can spray it on to
help again cut down on the moisture loss over the
wintertime and help to protect against winter damages there, azaleas, rhododendrons,
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boxwood laurels has been used for all of those. But
it really does a nice job indoors as far as
protecting and helping to preserve that. And they used to
have as a matter of fact, you wilt proof, which
is the original one, used to be labeled as a
fire retarded and now they took that off of the label.
But it does help because of this coating it puts
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on the outside and keeping that moisture in there. But
they took it off, but it does a really nice
job keeping it fresher longer. It gives it kind of
a glossy look to it. It's kind of like Elmer's glue.
When you spray it kind of has a more of
a cloudy consistency. But it does work and it does
a great job. But the question comes up sometimes if
you read the label on both of them and says
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don't apply will proof or wilt stop to arborvide, cypress,
juniper or cedar until the plants have hardened off for
the winter. How do you know when the plants have
hardened off for the winter, And that's a good question.
An easy way to gauge if those plants have hardened
off for the winter is basically when the ground finally freezes,
temperatures start to stay consistently forties and thirties, where it
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really has pretty much stop taking up moisture into the
plant itself. That's when you can go and apply the
wilt stop or the will proof at that point. And
if you're concerned about it, and this is for urbraviding
cypress juni proceeders, I think the ratio for that's like
a one to ten to water. You can do that
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in half and do it one to five a dilution rate,
and that works really well. Summer applications are a one
to fifteen, so you can really cut it, you know,
you can really cut it to make it a lot less,
So one to ten instead of the standard one to five,
all right, and that makes it a lot a little
bit more not quite as thick, and do it that way.
(05:41):
But I think the key here if you're concerned about
the arborvidy cypress, juniper seders of spring that on there
is the moisture as we were talking, before the break
until you know, right up until we get into the
holiday season. If you can do that, that is the
key to helping to protect these against a lot of
winter damage. Right to keep watering, but anyway, keep the
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wilt stopping a will proof in mind for your holiday greens,
whether they're in the porch plant, holiday porch plant, potter planters,
or your cut trees, live trees, whatever it may be,
it really does help to keep them fresher longer in
the house. So well, Hio we go, Rusty, Good morning, Rusty,
(06:22):
Good morning Ron.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
How are you appreciate you, Carl, love you love your show. Yeah. Hey, finally,
Well we got that hard freeze there that's snow here
ten days or a couple weeks ago whatever. I'm planning
on harvesting my kaladium and cannabalbs. Yes, and I'm going
to dig them today, lay them out. Should I wash them?
And and if I do, how long should let them
(06:44):
dry before I storm? Them. I then we're gonna have
a couple of days of decent drying weather.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So you got cannons and kalladiums, yes, sir, Yeah, No,
I don't. I don't. I don't wash them off. I
just dust them off. I clean them off, let it dry.
They're both pretty easy to to uh over winter and
again cannas, I've taken those things out of the ground,
kind of shake the soil off, let them dry for
two or three days, and then put them in a
bucket in the basement in a cool, dark area and
(07:11):
they do just fine. So I don't worry too much
about that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's what I'm planning. I'm gonna put I'm gonna put
them in toats and everything, and they're really it's really
not there are containers right now, and they're really not
gonna be like that muddy or anything, because I mean, yeah,
we've had some rain, but it's still this ground still dry.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, yeah, and it really is. That's that's the way
I do it. And it just dust them off, get
most of that off of there. Some of them you
do clean up a little bit more than that. Dally
as I would do that that type of thing, But
for those two. Now I just kind of get them
cleaned off and let them seize them for a couple
of days and then get them, get them tucked away,
and you should be good to go.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Great. Thank you so much, love your show. Thank you
you're insight and expertise, and uh and joy listening to you.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Hey, appreciate it. Appreciate it very much. And again what
Russy said there kind of if you caught that, still
not that wet down deep. And that's what I noticed,
even after all the rains we've had here, good moisture
in the top of the ground, but you get down
in there, still pretty dry down there. So we'll continue
to take that rainfall. And that's why it's important to
keep watering as needed right up until the holiday season,
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especially for those evergreens, no doubt about it. You know,
as I look around right now, I always look at
what's late in fall color, and most of our trees
have lost for the most part. We get some oak
trees is still have some leaves the beach to have
some leaves. Try to see though, what has late fall
color that's still giving us a little show out there.
(08:35):
Burning bush still hanging onto the leaves for some reason
and giving us still some pretty bright colors. Japanese red maples,
I think you're a fooler because they'll help. They'll hold
on to the lease fairly late, as long as the
weather sticks with them. But they turn from that maroon
color to a really bright red and give you a
tremendous show. I've seen some Japanese maple. It's just illuminated
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this fall, late in the season for good color, looking good.
I saw a great planting of Ita Virginia sweet spire
the other day, a big mass planting of it, just
now turning yellows, oranges and reds. It was spectacular. I
forget about that plant sometimes in certain areas and it'll
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rise home out and just kind of mass in. It'll
take shade a little bit of sun, and this was
in full sun as a matter of fact, but that
fall color was spectacular. But that's ita Itea really showing
up late in the season. Holding those leaves late in
the season give us some really good fall color. Many
of the spyreas we don't think about those who think
(09:38):
about the summer blooming spyria and sometimes the foliage colors
in the growing season. Spy Rea's given us some great
fall colors as well. Right now, late late into the season,
sugar maples still giving us some good golden yellows, which
is outstanding. Still seeing a lot of sweet gum with
leaves on them, showing us some multiple colors there as well.
Red barberry that's another one, like the Japanese maple. It's
(10:02):
got that maroon color, but then in the fall it
comes into that brighter red and a tremendous show seeing
that late in the season. And one last plant, I
wanted to mention that you're really putting on shows right now.
Don't talk about them a lot in our show, but
we should feature them a little bit more. And that's
the ornamental grasses. The plumes are looking great right now.
(10:23):
A lot of these ornamental grasses get great fall colors
as well. A lot of them is something turning starting
to get in their beige and brown colors for the wintertime,
great winter character. Why folks cut off ornamental grasses before
we go into the winter season, I have no idea,
because right now is when they're really starting to put
on one of their best shows of the entire year.
(10:44):
And folks that did cut those back a month ago,
they want to get them cleaned up, and don't want
to mess with them over the wintertime. Well, with the
warmer weather, they're actually kind of regrowing at the base
of the ornamental grasses. But leave them alone, let them
do their thing. But they're putting on a great show,
oh right now in our area. Those plumes, the foliage
colors all I absolutely love, and the ornamental grasses doing
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a wonderful job. And one last thing, as we look
around and things are really losing their leaves. Our plant
feature of the last week last week was the invasive honeysuckle.
And as you look around right now with all things,
we're losing leaves, and of course you're mowing them and
collecting them right and putting them in the landscape beds
or mowing them back into the turf. Leave the leaves.
(11:28):
I'm all with you, except for on the turf. Don't
leave them on the turf. Are the honeysuckle and the
ornamental pairs? Just now you look and you realize how
invasive these plants have become in our area. Unbelievable, the
pairs almost more so than the honeysuckle. Crazy stuff. If
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it's on your property, get rid of them and I'll
tell you what. Now's a good time to do that.
You cut them off at the ground. Don't worry about
grubbing them out. Cut them off at the ground. Treat
that's top of that stump with a weed killer, brush killer,
kills all something like that. It won't sucker back up
in the springtime. Done deal. But let's get rid of
these invasive honeysuckles and these invasive ornamental pairs. It's unreal
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how they are changing the face of a lot of
the natural areas in our area, in our state, and
I'm sure in many other states as well. And you
can see him right now because one of the only
things that are left was still somewhat green leaves still
on them. Invasive honeysuckle ornamental pairs. Get rid of them
on your property. Quick break, We come back. More coming
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up for you at bottom of the hour. Doctor triple A.
Alan Armitach will be with us top of the hour
our book for this week, other book, because we're going
to talk about his new book, Code Common Sense Vibert
Harvest by Sandra Mao. Really cool book. And you know
I've said to would I'd love to visit vegetable gardens
more than I do landscape gardens and flower gardens. I
love vegetable gardens. She focuses on all the colorful vegetables
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and fruits that you can grow in your gard garden
to make it more colorful, including when you're eating. They're
much better for you canning. It's a really cool book
called Vibrant Harvest by Sandra Mouse. She's going to join
us at the top of the next hour. It's all
happening here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (15:56):
Talking to your ardening at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. This is the pre Thanksgiving weekend
yardening show. Yes, next week is Thanksgiving? Are you already?
I couldn't believe how many people go to the grocery
store this week and yet looking at the parking lot yesterday,
they were packed. It was like it was the Tuesday
or Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Oh my gosh, things just get happened.
(16:18):
They just I guess happens earlier earlier every year. Like
Joe said, it's just like the spring season. Folks get
out early and earlier every year to get it taken
care of. But wow, they have been extremely, extremely busy
talking you yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five question this week somebody said, I'm getting
ready to do my last lawn feeding. Is it good
(16:42):
timing for cool season grasses? Yes, it is. With that
last feeding down, you can use that for loom. Lawn
food plus iron is the next on one for this
time of the year. But they said, I had a
bag of weeding feed that I forgot to use this year.
Can I use that for our last lawn feeding. No
way you could, But no, it's too late for weed control.
(17:03):
And although the fertilizer formula is good, you're wasting the
weed killer. You put it down, and you're wasting a
whole thing. So I just say stored away, put it
in a dry place, and use it next year. As
a matter of fact, if you want to use it,
you could use it in October if you wanted to,
where you can still take care of the weeds and
feed it at the same time. So you can either
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use it next year late spring when the weeds are
actively growing, or in the fall. I'm not a big
wheat and feed fan you know that. Feed the lawn
when it needs to be fed, spot treat the weeds
when they need to be spot treated. But no, don't
use that. That's a waste of a product right there,
So don't do that. But it is time for that.
Keep mowing the lawn as it's growing, Keep mowing as
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the leaves keep falling, keep mowing, throwing those back in,
mulching them up, putting them back into the turf, multing
them up and putting them in the lawn, the landscape
beds around the tree in the vegetable garden. And you
know what this time of the year, if you're just
you're done up leaves into your turf, and I know
the lawn's probably not growing, but you're mowing just to
get rid of those leaves. Grab those things and throw
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them in. You're a vegetable garden. What a great amendment
to put in there, ground up leaves and grass clippings,
as long as you haven't used a weed killer on
the lawn. A great thing to add back for organic matter.
So keep that in mind as well. But again, keep
mowing as they continue to keep growing. The lawn, which
(18:28):
is probably done. But as long as those leaves keep falling,
we do not want those to collect on the lawn,
So make sure you take care of that please. And
you know, as we look at the next week in
the holiday season, and you know, we all have a
tendency they overeat. You know, it gets a little stressful,
no doubt about it. I always suggest the folks do this.
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You know, we talk about how good mother nature is
for your mental well being. And not only is it
good for your mental well being, but it's good for
you physically as well. Why do I say that, because
your yard can be your own personal gym. All right,
Thanksgiving week this next week, and if you're doing a
lot of snacks, food goalor etcetera, this I say, you know,
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go ahead, enjoy yourself, try to be moderate in the
moderation or whatever. But you can burn those calories off.
And of course you can do some mental release as
far as the stresses all and all by working in
the yard. Yes, like what you say, Well, if you
mow the grass one last time, or you're using it
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to grind up those leaves using a push mower not
a rider or self propelled, can burn about five hundred
calories an hour. Five hundred calories an hour. Now if
you're riding on the riding more believe it or not,
jiggling around about one hundred and fifty calories, pulling weeds,
cutting dead foliage, hoeing the beds that can burn about
three twenty one hundred, three hund twenty calories per hour,
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Planting trees three hundred and sixty hours and calories per hour,
Dragging the hose around and watering about one hundred calories
per hour. Cleaning the gutters out five hundred calories. Raking
the leaves probably one of the best things you can
do physically and mentally. But it's all said and done.
Just sitting around you can burn seventy raighty calories. Just
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Speaker 1 (22:12):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, and
as I promised, he is with us again. How are
we being so lucky to get this young man to
join us on our show is unbelievable. The checks must
be going through, Ladies and Gentlemen, is time for Yes,
it is Professor Merits of Horticulture or at the University
of Georgia. His website is Alan Armony's dot and that
he's written the more books than Carter's has Liver Pills,
(22:34):
Ladies and Gentlemen, the one, the only doctor Alan Apple Armonie.
Sit down, Sit down. You're giving him a bigger head.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yeah, good good morning, Come on, Yeah, my liver is
bothering me.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
I mean Messido's damn pills. Good morning everybody. I hope
all is well. I was like, we're going to have
some great weather. Yeah, has some great weather.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Finally we got some rain to move through here this
week and we get some moisture back in the ground.
So we're happy for that.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
I'll tell you what. Well, fall always seems to be
that time when you know it's a little cooler and
I think it's warm again. And I don't know about
you guys, that we got up to seventy degrees and stuff.
It's like summer again. But we're going to get cool
like you are. And that's great, and that really helps everything,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So you know, I'm assuming that doctor Allen Armies is
still out planting plants for the fall.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
He's putting home some yeah, actually he is. He got
some late bulbs that he's throwing in the ground so
the squirrels can eat them for the winter. And he's
also putting in some just you know, the usual winter
stuff for down here, which there's pansies by oldest snap dragons,
et cetera. They look terrible in the winter, but they
come back in the spring, so it's good. You know.
(23:57):
I'm still doing a bit of that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah. I still think going on cabbage and kale is
way overlooked when it comes to fall color because the
colder it gets, the colder it gets, the better they.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Look, and they tolerate that cold without a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
The thing is of a you know, you're taking to
put in these tail or biolas or snaps, and it
looks fairly lovely when you put them in the fall
and h and then it all gets cold, yes, and
so they don't look so lovely and people complain about them.
But the fact is, you know, get a little bit
of heat, a little bit of break in the weather
and they come right back. You're correct, mustards and kales
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and all those things. They looks oh yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Know, I uh once I planned last year and I
raised beds. We had a snow in the middle of
the winter and they were peeking up through the snow
with that pink and maroon. I took pictures of that.
It was spectacular coming up through there. And they made
it through the winter and they flowered a course in
the springtime, which I little white flower, but you know,
I still think it's way under used in containers and
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then the landscape for for winter color.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, no, no, I agree with you, hndred percent anytime
it's cool. And the fact is I probably don't know
this your listeners, but ornamental ornamental kale is a huge
cut flower or cut stem, I should say. You know,
they've been bred so these stems expand and get taller
and they look quite lovely, you know, smaller heads, but
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they're actually bred for cuts yiss.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. The first time I
ever saw that, we took a y We had a
garden center tour up in the Toronto area, brought twenty
years ago Sheridan's Nursery hosted us up there. Yeah, of course, yeah,
and yeah, wheeling and calling in all of those places.
And that's where I first saw some of those taller
kales that were like trees that were up. And of
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course the the colors up there were spectacular in the fall,
I mean it, which is unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah. No, some of these little lone plants, like you say,
are actually pretty well known by certain segment. And the kale,
regardless should be should be planted more.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yep, no doubt. Talk with doctor Allen Ormonies of course
his website alan Ormedies dot and ned. Be sure and
check it out. And I think it's interesting you talk
about the bulbs because I tell folks right now, garden
centers whoever happens to sell bulbs in the fall, they're
trying to get rid of them right now because they
go into the holiday season. You can scarf those things
up for a great price. Still plenty of time to plant,
and I do I plant them in the ground, but
(26:23):
I do a few in the containers in pots and
overwinter them in a somewhere and bring them out in
the springtime to give away as gifts or to use
on the in the in the house or whatever. Sure,
and there's really no cost.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
To them, no, they and they need so little and
just give them some cold, put out in the garden somewhere,
or put them wherever where it gets cool, and they're
gonna beautiful in the spring. And as gifts, I agree
with you. Whatever. When I was teaching my class and
they how to my students be forcing bulbs, you know,
and of course they got graded on it. And but
(26:56):
they're so simple, you know, you put them in the containers,
just you get some cool on them for a certain
amount of time, bring them out and the where you go. Yeah,
so that's fay. And of course in the garden itself.
I'm you know, I got looking at my garden right now.
I can see all these all these spots. I don't
know what's in there, but I hope there's bulbs in there.
That's all I can say.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now, now you talked about feeding the squirrels, I mean
they do stay away from a lot of the minor bulbs.
They stay away from the dafts. Obviously, tulips are candy
for them.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Oh the crocus are real candy.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh yeah, the crocus.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Yet, at least at least for my squirrels anyway. I
have non discerning squirrels and chipmunks, of course, but I
know they I love crokers, I just truly love crocers.
But every time I put them in, they seem to
not come up. And uh, you know, I think that's
that's food. But you know, you do your best. So
but those are the kind of things you can put
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in containers as well. And I say garden containers even
and you can cover those in the winter so they
can't get in. And they'll hume right.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Through Cincinnati Botanical Garden and Zoo does an excellent job
and a lot they're large, and they'll layer and do
spring spring bulbs layered in these huge urns and things
where they have dafts down below, then tulips above them,
and the miners up top, and just a great show
of us. Just a spring garden, uh in April. And
when they're doing all their tulips and dafts and all
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the other things as well.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
It's great stuff. And people think it's I have to
plant each ball by itself, head up, and half the
time they don't know where the head is, just putting
on the ground. They'll figure it out you're right.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
If you're not.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Sure, mix them all up and just let it go.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And let it go. No doubt about talking with doctor
Allen Armitage again. His website is Alan Armitage dot net.
So as you as we start to wind down the
season next week being Thanksgiving and all, when do you
do you put your garden? When do you've officially And
you're in Athens, Georgia, So when do you officially kind
of put the garden to bed? And what do you
do when you do put the garden to bed?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Well, I'm officially put into bed right now.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Sot.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
They've been doing it for the lo It looks like heck,
because it's just things, you know, some something that disappeared.
The leaves are everywhere, they're all falling. No, I'm putting
it to bed right now. Most of the leaves have
come down, and so I cut down any of those
perennials that just you know, they're looking pretty shabby, different
mediums and you know, just stuff. And of course the
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HELLI bares look great right now, so they'll they'll be
coming back up. I'm looking right now at at at
you know some shrubs which I'll cut them back up.
I necessary knowing when they flower. But in general, I
just try to clean up all the stuff that looks
like because it's a garden around, I just try to
clean up so it looks how decent when I look
out here. And then you know, I'll try and keep
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most of the leaves and stuff in the garden. But
Susan being Susan, she wants a little cleaner, so I
sometimes break out those as well, and just it's you know,
it's putting it to bed is not just chopping hole
darn thing down. Putting it to bed is you know,
taking out that stuff that looks like heck, because it's
going to come back again. For the perennials, you're generally
getting all rid of all the annuals that have died
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and awhere you go.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Do you do any feeding in the fall? Do you
say that for spring?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
I really do not. I do it for spring. Yeah,
And I see fairly heavily in the spring. And the
whole the whole common sense thing about fertilizing is just
fertilized when they're actively growing. Most things aren't actively growing
right now. A few things are, and the bulbs don't
need anything. So and I stuck a few digitalis into that.
Maybe I'll fertilize a little bit just to get them going. Well,
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we're going to get some cold out of this week too,
so they're not going to take up a whole lot
of stuff when he gets cold.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You talk about common sense. Do you use common sense
a lot when you're gardening?
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yeah, common sense can make common sense, you know, can
be related to laziness. I guess I try to do
as little as I can, and therefore I call it
common sense.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I don't know. I read that article about you out
fighting the law in your neighborhood trying to get things.
It's like, is he used to some common sense here
as far as fighting the law or trying to get
some horticulture?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
They're not, apparently not. Article just articling up on the
Facebook around at these things go. I have no idea.
My wife read it. She said, oh, you're going to
get arrested, ticket down. I said, wow, I know it.
Really it was a little us doing some work for
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the community. But anyway, maybe I should have changed the title. Right.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Just google how we fought the law and improved our
local green spaces and you'll learn all about what doctor
Allen Harbidy's does in his downtime when he has everything
else to do. By the way, you know, we have
so many plants of the year. We have to take
a break here. We'll come back and we'll talk about
common sence gardening. But everybody has a plan of the year. Now,
you know, it's almost getting diluted. There's so many plants
of the year out there. I noticed one the other
(31:44):
day that I that I thought, you know what we
haven't I haven't talked about that one. Forever Garden Club
of America came up with their plan of the year
for twenty twenty six and it's iron weed. But it's
the one it's uh, iron butterfly. I like that plant.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, do you know where that came from?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Where?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
I'll tell you when we come back.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
All right, we'll take a break. We'll find out where
that iron weed iron butterfly came from from. Doctor Allen
Armidy's website is Alan Armies dot Net. Here in the
Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (34:00):
Come back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning doctor triple A, Alan Apple Armitage. Come on,
you're giving him a big head neighborhood rebel, but love it,
horticultural and storyteller, doctor Allan ormitage and talking to him,
I was mentioning the plant, the iron weed, iron butterfly,
(34:20):
and you know how it got its name? Well I don't,
but he does. Are you there, doctor triple A? Hold
on a second, come check, see Dan's got him. We'll
(34:41):
try again. Maybe not there you are?
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Okay, Sorry, I don't know what happened. It's you know
this technology.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It happens sometimes in our wonderful technology here. So we're talking.
We're talking about ironwed iron butterfly, which is one of
your favorite greens. It's right, iron butterfly.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I love iron weed period. I think it's a it's
a great native plant. Yes, and many of our many
of our natives have gone through some evolutions so that
they make a more garden, more garden est because the
most you know, iron weeds are quite big and tall,
and they're great if you have a space, but iron butterfly,
and believe it or not, I know you probably don't.
Is I developed that so along with my homestead purples
(35:24):
and my and my sweet potatoes and all that kind
of nonsense I managed to foist on people. I did
iron butterfly a number of years ago, and it's taken
quite a while for it to I mean, it's always
it caught on, but it never kind of went right
through the roof. And I'm placed to see that some
people are finally seeing how wonderful this plant is because
it's still an iron weed and it's still a great plant,
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and it just is more and much more, and it
works in the garden so much. I sort has fabulous flowers.
The best part of it, or however, though, are the
is the foliage. The foliage is just extraordinarily beautiful, which
is why quite truthfully introduced. The flowers are okay, but
the folders looks nice all season.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know what's funny is I did not know that
you did that.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Well, there's no reason why you showed it. That was
a good A good ten years ago, I guess, I bet, wow,
And it's been hanging around. It's been hanging around for
that time, and people really enjoyed. I remember I saw
a ton of it in the Chicago b Tackle Guard
and I saw a bunch of it probably at the Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I bet, yeah, we grow it. We grow it on
our nurse. You know, I've always enjoyed it. But you know,
I they brought they had picked that as their plan
of the year, and I said, you know, boy, I
haven't talked about that in a long time, so it's
interesting I brought that up.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Good for them, Yeah, good for them. Well anyway, so
maybe we'll sell a few more. But it's a great plan.
And the whole the whole group of iron weeds are terrific,
but that one, to me is certainly my favorite. Of
course I'm a little biased, but it's a great plant.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
By the way, I thought of you because they were
I had read an article the other day about honey
crisp apples. Of course, it's becoming one of the most
popular apple across the United States, but it's also one
of the hardest apples for them to produce in big number.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
It's a little bit tougher. I guess the growers are saying,
and it's and here it is the most popular. So
but I know you like grandy Smith as well, so
I do.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
But I mean the honey curs find me out those
is kind of my snacks at night. I would have
this little cool little thing you can push down and
make a little slices of out. Oh yeah, so it's
real easy, and that's a nice snack instead of potato chests,
let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh yeah, and when they're cold. We give those away
in the fall for our customers and they absolutely love them.
So it's what talking with you were talking about common
sense gardening. He brought that up earlier, and common sense
gardening is uh uh, well, I tell you what, you know,
somebody should write a book about it. I brought this up,
I don't know a little while back, and guess what
(37:44):
he did. And it's now, uh somewhat available. It's the
newest book from doctor Armony's called The Common Sense Gardener.
And only you could write this book and tell the
story the way you did.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Well. In fact, it is available. It came available yesterday.
The orders were available I think for a few days
now and it's on the website and orders now are accepted.
But I just got literally physically, I got the book
two days ago, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Anyway, so those have those have gone out. My first
order was, you'd love this to a nursery who bought
a hundred.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
And they are using it for gifts instead of your apples.
Are using this little book. And it is a little book.
Anybody who has seen this thing, it's common sense is
rather uncommon. So it was nice, and that's it's not
one hundred pages. But it was real fun to write
because Ron and anybody else out there who takes groups
around their garden, you know the questions you're gonna get.
(38:44):
You're gonna get something about deer pollinators, soil shades done.
You know the questions, and so everybody ever, even though
the question is the same, boy, everybody is so confused
about the answers, you know, training good grief. So anyway,
I wrote this book as somebody asking somebody about the
best way to do pruning, and they said, here's the
(39:05):
common sense way. Let's not let's not sweat it. So
that's what the book is about. And and I think
you'll get yours in the mail run today or certainly
by Monday if not. But so anyway, it's it's a
great I'm really very pleased with it, mostly because I
took a chance on writing it very differently. It's a narrative,
it's like like a real book. And uh, people really
(39:26):
have have have responded. It's a lot of orders come
in already, and some from your group, Ron, So thank
you for mentioning it.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well good, and well I did. I actually I read
the book what about a month ago when you were
first put it out week review it and it's a
it's a great book. And like I said, it's a
you know, you walk this garden to this guy through
life learning about common sense guarding and what a great
way to put a little humor and a little bit
of wisdom and of course hands on experience from you
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and the way you write. And it's just again another
easy read, fun to read, and you get you know,
you get something out of it at the same time.
And it's pretty much, you know, down to earth and
I think, you know, I don't care what level of
a gardener you are, you'll enjoy the book. And it's
a it's a fun read. And uh, it's again perfect
(40:16):
timing as far as Christmas goes. And I like that.
I like what that company doing one hundred we have
to may have to take a look at that as well.
That's a great, great idea. So this thing.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Is so, but that the other thing for your readers.
We just did this for for November fifteenth to December fifteenth, right,
so we're also going to have a next spring, of course,
but anybody wants to do as a gift or I'm
getting lots of orders of two's and trees and stuff
like that, just get on it now so I can
get it to you in time.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
That's all, okay. So that's available through the fifteenth. This
is the first run of this. It's a limited kind
of eliminated.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Yeah, there'll be another run in the spring, to be sure,
but I want we want to get this out for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
So if you want to get this out for Christmas,
you got to get on it right away, because of course,
missus Armitage is in the basement right now packaging and
labeling these.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Don't even not go there, I'm telling you, and.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know, and hiding from the police because their rebel
husband's out there fighting the law.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
In the community. Oh gods, life is good in the
past lane.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Right, I tell you what. Anyway, It's called the Common
Sense Gardener, Doctor Allen m Armitage. It's a great one,
but a limited time, limited edition and you can go
to his website, Alan Armny's dot net and and uh
and ordered, and I have read it, and it as
wonderful as usual. You do such a great job, and
we really appreciate you writing that when and I think you,
like I said, no matter what level gardener are, you're
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all everybody's gonna appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
Well, thank you. I enjoyed writing it, so I hope
people enjoy reading it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
But now if you'll come back with a book that
I've asked you to write something about apples, it's not
about the apple.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
I listened. I watched the British making show Mary Darry.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I don't know if.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
Anybody watches that show. I love, I love Mary Barry
Shoe did English scolds well, I want to tell you,
and they had apple in them. I'm all over this now.
Of course, I dare not get all a material Susan.
We'll think I've really gone off the deep end. But
that's my next project.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, sure, thank you've gone off the defense. She knows
you've gone off the deep end. It's the new book
from doctor Allen Armony's The Common Sense Gardener. Go to
his website Limited Edition alanarmonies dot net. Just in time,
for the holiday season, Doctor Armitis, have a great Thanksgiving.
Good talking with.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
You here too.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Ron, Thank you and thank you everybody.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Enjoy the season.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
All right, take care, quick break, we come back phone.
Oh no, we're going to go to the West coast.
We're going to talk to Sandra mau her new book
which is outstanding. We got two books today. It's called
Vibrant Harvest Cultivating a Kaleidoscope of Colors in your Vegetable
Garden with heirlooms, modern hybrids, and a whole lot more.
What a great book to make your vegetable garden more colorful,
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healthy for you, and how to grow them and how
to can them, and how to do the whole nine yards.
Coming up after the break here in the Garden with
Ron Wilson, Green.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Tom or not.
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This is in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
All right, total free number eight hundred Yo. See Danny
in the thing here when he would take a local intro,
then we come back and do our networking intro. He
takes his hand up in the air and does a
little click like he's dancing, like the somba or something.
It's like click, go anyway.
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The wrong finger. Easy, now, easy, No, I wouldn't do
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you've probably never did. And then have you. No, I'm
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I don't forget our website. Ron Wilson Online dot Com.
Plan of the week. You know what it's gonna be
this week. The real Christmas tree, whether it's cut or
(01:16):
bald and burl apped. Using that real Christmas tree and
get out early. Boy, the last couple of years they
have gone in a flash. So get out early and
get your tree and just keep it sleeved up. If
you're not ready to put it up yet put it
in a bucket of water or whatever, keep it nice
and fresh in the shade. And I had mentioned right
(01:36):
before going into the break using a product called willproofer
will stop. And I'll explain that to you in just
a second. Because in the rest of the website you
got Rita's yummy Thanksgiving appetizer which looks absolutely outstanding. You
might want to give that a shot, a little bit
of a little spice to It's got a little lapino
in there for you. It's a cranberry jalipino cream cheese appetizer.
(01:57):
That doesn't that sound good? And you know, if if
it's coming from Rita Hikenfeld, it has to be good.
Don't forget her website. It's about eating dot com. But
be sure and check that out. And then every year
we put our white Castle hamburger stuffing recipe up on
our website. And if it sounds horrible to you, don't
say you don't like it until you try it. It's
(02:20):
pretty good. And every time I make that and take
it somewhere, you know, and somebody they taste it to go,
you know what, that's pretty darn good. The thing of
it is with the white Castle. And if you have
don't have White Castle in your area, you can buy
the frozen ones a lot of times in your grocery store,
but other places that put ketchup or muster on and
you can't use those, all right, got to use the
(02:42):
white Castle. They tell you to take the pickles out,
I leave the pickles in. I like it with the
pickles in there. But anyway, that recipe's up there for you.
And Joe's got one of his great graphics up there.
I don't know who I look like there, somebody from
King of the Hill, one of the characters. But again
you can check it out a run Wilson online dot com.
I was talking about the cut Christmas trees and the
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greens and all fresh greens in the house, keeping them
fresher by using a product called wilt stop or willproof,
and these are actually both of these are a pine
resin product, all natural that when you spray it on
the needles of these plants helps to seal the moisture
inside the needle, keep them fresher a little bit longer.
It's also used I have used it on winter rising rosecnes,
(03:27):
like you know, getting the roses ready for the winter.
Spraying it on there to help keep moisture in those
needles or in those lee stems. You know, you can
use it outside for winter protection for evergreens, white pine spruce,
things like that that you can spray it on to
help again cut down on the moisture loss over the
wintertime and help to protect against winter damages there, azaleas, rhododendrons,
(03:53):
boxwood laurels has been used for all of those. But
it really does a nice job indoors as far as
protecting and helping to preserve that. And they used to
have as a matter of fact, you wilt proof, which
is the original one, used to be labeled as a
fire retarded and now they took that off of the label.
But it does help because of this coating it puts
(04:14):
on the outside and keeping that moisture in there. But
they took it off, but it does a really nice
job keeping it fresher longer. It gives it kind of
a glossy look to it. It's kind of like Elmer's glue.
When you spray it kind of has a more of
a cloudy consistency. But it does work and it does
a great job. But the question comes up sometimes if
you read the label on both of them and says
(04:35):
don't apply will proof or wilt stop to arborvide, cypress,
juniper or cedar until the plants have hardened off for
the winter. How do you know when the plants have
hardened off for the winter, And that's a good question.
An easy way to gauge if those plants have hardened
off for the winter is basically when the ground finally freezes,
temperatures start to stay consistently forties and thirties, where it
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really has pretty much stop taking up moisture into the
plant itself. That's when you can go and apply the
wilt stop or the will proof at that point. And
if you're concerned about it, and this is for urbraviding
cypress juni proceeders, I think the ratio for that's like
a one to ten to water. You can do that
(05:19):
in half and do it one to five a dilution rate,
and that works really well. Summer applications are a one
to fifteen, so you can really cut it, you know,
you can really cut it to make it a lot less,
So one to ten instead of the standard one to five,
all right, and that makes it a lot a little
bit more not quite as thick, and do it that way.
(05:41):
But I think the key here if you're concerned about
the arborvidy cypress, juniper seders of spring that on there
is the moisture as we were talking, before the break
until you know, right up until we get into the
holiday season. If you can do that, that is the
key to helping to protect these against a lot of
winter damage. Right to keep watering, but anyway, keep the
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wilt stopping a will proof in mind for your holiday greens,
whether they're in the porch plant, holiday porch plant, potter planters,
or your cut trees, live trees, whatever it may be,
it really does help to keep them fresher longer in
the house. So well, Hio we go, Rusty, Good morning, Rusty,
(06:22):
Good morning Ron.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
How are you appreciate you, Carl, love you love your show. Yeah. Hey, finally,
Well we got that hard freeze there that's snow here
ten days or a couple weeks ago whatever. I'm planning
on harvesting my kaladium and cannabalbs. Yes, and I'm going
to dig them today, lay them out. Should I wash them?
And and if I do, how long should let them
(06:44):
dry before I storm? Them. I then we're gonna have
a couple of days of decent drying weather.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So you got cannons and kalladiums, yes, sir, Yeah, No,
I don't. I don't. I don't wash them off. I
just dust them off. I clean them off, let it dry.
They're both pretty easy to to uh over winter and
again cannas, I've taken those things out of the ground,
kind of shake the soil off, let them dry for
two or three days, and then put them in a
bucket in the basement in a cool, dark area and
(07:11):
they do just fine. So I don't worry too much
about that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's what I'm planning. I'm gonna put I'm gonna put
them in toats and everything, and they're really it's really
not there are containers right now, and they're really not
gonna be like that muddy or anything, because I mean, yeah,
we've had some rain, but it's still this ground still dry.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, yeah, and it really is. That's that's the way
I do it. And it just dust them off, get
most of that off of there. Some of them you
do clean up a little bit more than that. Dally
as I would do that that type of thing, But
for those two. Now I just kind of get them
cleaned off and let them seize them for a couple
of days and then get them, get them tucked away,
and you should be good to go.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Great. Thank you so much, love your show. Thank you
you're insight and expertise, and uh and joy listening to you.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Hey, appreciate it. Appreciate it very much. And again what
Russy said there kind of if you caught that, still
not that wet down deep. And that's what I noticed,
even after all the rains we've had here, good moisture
in the top of the ground, but you get down
in there, still pretty dry down there. So we'll continue
to take that rainfall. And that's why it's important to
keep watering as needed right up until the holiday season,
(08:14):
especially for those evergreens, no doubt about it. You know,
as I look around right now, I always look at
what's late in fall color, and most of our trees
have lost for the most part. We get some oak
trees is still have some leaves the beach to have
some leaves. Try to see though, what has late fall
color that's still giving us a little show out there.
(08:35):
Burning bush still hanging onto the leaves for some reason
and giving us still some pretty bright colors. Japanese red maples,
I think you're a fooler because they'll help. They'll hold
on to the lease fairly late, as long as the
weather sticks with them. But they turn from that maroon
color to a really bright red and give you a
tremendous show. I've seen some Japanese maple. It's just illuminated
(08:55):
this fall, late in the season for good color, looking good.
I saw a great planting of Ita Virginia sweet spire
the other day, a big mass planting of it, just
now turning yellows, oranges and reds. It was spectacular. I
forget about that plant sometimes in certain areas and it'll
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rise home out and just kind of mass in. It'll
take shade a little bit of sun, and this was
in full sun as a matter of fact, but that
fall color was spectacular. But that's ita Itea really showing
up late in the season. Holding those leaves late in
the season give us some really good fall color. Many
of the spyreas we don't think about those who think
(09:38):
about the summer blooming spyria and sometimes the foliage colors
in the growing season. Spy Rea's given us some great
fall colors as well. Right now, late late into the season,
sugar maples still giving us some good golden yellows, which
is outstanding. Still seeing a lot of sweet gum with
leaves on them, showing us some multiple colors there as well.
Red barberry that's another one, like the Japanese maple. It's
(10:02):
got that maroon color, but then in the fall it
comes into that brighter red and a tremendous show seeing
that late in the season. And one last plant, I
wanted to mention that you're really putting on shows right now.
Don't talk about them a lot in our show, but
we should feature them a little bit more. And that's
the ornamental grasses. The plumes are looking great right now.
(10:23):
A lot of these ornamental grasses get great fall colors
as well. A lot of them is something turning starting
to get in their beige and brown colors for the wintertime,
great winter character. Why folks cut off ornamental grasses before
we go into the winter season, I have no idea,
because right now is when they're really starting to put
on one of their best shows of the entire year.
(10:44):
And folks that did cut those back a month ago,
they want to get them cleaned up, and don't want
to mess with them over the wintertime. Well, with the
warmer weather, they're actually kind of regrowing at the base
of the ornamental grasses. But leave them alone, let them
do their thing. But they're putting on a great show,
oh right now in our area. Those plumes, the foliage
colors all I absolutely love, and the ornamental grasses doing
(11:08):
a wonderful job. And one last thing, as we look
around and things are really losing their leaves. Our plant
feature of the last week last week was the invasive honeysuckle.
And as you look around right now with all things,
we're losing leaves, and of course you're mowing them and
collecting them right and putting them in the landscape beds
or mowing them back into the turf. Leave the leaves.
(11:28):
I'm all with you, except for on the turf. Don't
leave them on the turf. Are the honeysuckle and the
ornamental pairs? Just now you look and you realize how
invasive these plants have become in our area. Unbelievable, the
pairs almost more so than the honeysuckle. Crazy stuff. If
(11:49):
it's on your property, get rid of them and I'll
tell you what. Now's a good time to do that.
You cut them off at the ground. Don't worry about
grubbing them out. Cut them off at the ground. Treat
that's top of that stump with a weed killer, brush killer,
kills all something like that. It won't sucker back up
in the springtime. Done deal. But let's get rid of
these invasive honeysuckles and these invasive ornamental pairs. It's unreal
(12:13):
how they are changing the face of a lot of
the natural areas in our area, in our state, and
I'm sure in many other states as well. And you
can see him right now because one of the only
things that are left was still somewhat green leaves still
on them. Invasive honeysuckle ornamental pairs. Get rid of them
on your property. Quick break, We come back. More coming
(12:35):
up for you at bottom of the hour. Doctor triple A.
Alan Armitach will be with us top of the hour
our book for this week, other book, because we're going
to talk about his new book, Code Common Sense Vibert
Harvest by Sandra Mao. Really cool book. And you know
I've said to would I'd love to visit vegetable gardens
more than I do landscape gardens and flower gardens. I
love vegetable gardens. She focuses on all the colorful vegetables
(12:58):
and fruits that you can grow in your gard garden
to make it more colorful, including when you're eating. They're
much better for you canning. It's a really cool book
called Vibrant Harvest by Sandra Mouse. She's going to join
us at the top of the next hour. It's all
happening here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Talking to your ardening at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. This is the pre Thanksgiving weekend
yardening show. Yes, next week is Thanksgiving? Are you already?
I couldn't believe how many people go to the grocery
store this week and yet looking at the parking lot yesterday,
they were packed. It was like it was the Tuesday
or Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Oh my gosh, things just get happened.
(16:18):
They just I guess happens earlier earlier every year. Like
Joe said, it's just like the spring season. Folks get
out early and earlier every year to get it taken
care of. But wow, they have been extremely, extremely busy
talking you yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five question this week somebody said, I'm getting
ready to do my last lawn feeding. Is it good
(16:42):
timing for cool season grasses? Yes, it is. With that
last feeding down, you can use that for loom. Lawn
food plus iron is the next on one for this
time of the year. But they said, I had a
bag of weeding feed that I forgot to use this year.
Can I use that for our last lawn feeding. No
way you could, But no, it's too late for weed control.
(17:03):
And although the fertilizer formula is good, you're wasting the
weed killer. You put it down, and you're wasting a
whole thing. So I just say stored away, put it
in a dry place, and use it next year. As
a matter of fact, if you want to use it,
you could use it in October if you wanted to,
where you can still take care of the weeds and
feed it at the same time. So you can either
(17:25):
use it next year late spring when the weeds are
actively growing, or in the fall. I'm not a big
wheat and feed fan you know that. Feed the lawn
when it needs to be fed, spot treat the weeds
when they need to be spot treated. But no, don't
use that. That's a waste of a product right there,
So don't do that. But it is time for that.
Keep mowing the lawn as it's growing, Keep mowing as
(17:45):
the leaves keep falling, keep mowing, throwing those back in,
mulching them up, putting them back into the turf, multing
them up and putting them in the lawn, the landscape
beds around the tree in the vegetable garden. And you
know what this time of the year, if you're just
you're done up leaves into your turf, and I know
the lawn's probably not growing, but you're mowing just to
get rid of those leaves. Grab those things and throw
(18:07):
them in. You're a vegetable garden. What a great amendment
to put in there, ground up leaves and grass clippings,
as long as you haven't used a weed killer on
the lawn. A great thing to add back for organic matter.
So keep that in mind as well. But again, keep
mowing as they continue to keep growing. The lawn, which
(18:28):
is probably done. But as long as those leaves keep falling,
we do not want those to collect on the lawn,
So make sure you take care of that please. And
you know, as we look at the next week in
the holiday season, and you know, we all have a
tendency they overeat. You know, it gets a little stressful,
no doubt about it. I always suggest the folks do this.
(18:49):
You know, we talk about how good mother nature is
for your mental well being. And not only is it
good for your mental well being, but it's good for
you physically as well. Why do I say that, because
your yard can be your own personal gym. All right,
Thanksgiving week this next week, and if you're doing a
lot of snacks, food goalor etcetera, this I say, you know,
(19:10):
go ahead, enjoy yourself, try to be moderate in the
moderation or whatever. But you can burn those calories off.
And of course you can do some mental release as
far as the stresses all and all by working in
the yard. Yes, like what you say, Well, if you
mow the grass one last time, or you're using it
(19:31):
to grind up those leaves using a push mower not
a rider or self propelled, can burn about five hundred
calories an hour. Five hundred calories an hour. Now if
you're riding on the riding more believe it or not,
jiggling around about one hundred and fifty calories, pulling weeds,
cutting dead foliage, hoeing the beds that can burn about
three twenty one hundred, three hund twenty calories per hour,
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Planting trees three hundred and sixty hours and calories per hour,
Dragging the hose around and watering about one hundred calories
per hour. Cleaning the gutters out five hundred calories. Raking
the leaves probably one of the best things you can
do physically and mentally. But it's all said and done.
Just sitting around you can burn seventy raighty calories. Just
think about it all eight hundred eight two three eight
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Speaker 1 (22:12):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, and
as I promised, he is with us again. How are
we being so lucky to get this young man to
join us on our show is unbelievable. The checks must
be going through, Ladies and Gentlemen, is time for Yes,
it is Professor Merits of Horticulture or at the University
of Georgia. His website is Alan Armony's dot and that
he's written the more books than Carter's has Liver Pills,
(22:34):
Ladies and Gentlemen, the one, the only doctor Alan Apple Armonie.
Sit down, Sit down. You're giving him a bigger head.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yeah, good good morning, Come on, Yeah, my liver is
bothering me.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
I mean Messido's damn pills. Good morning everybody. I hope
all is well. I was like, we're going to have
some great weather. Yeah, has some great weather.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Finally we got some rain to move through here this
week and we get some moisture back in the ground.
So we're happy for that.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
I'll tell you what. Well, fall always seems to be
that time when you know it's a little cooler and
I think it's warm again. And I don't know about
you guys, that we got up to seventy degrees and stuff.
It's like summer again. But we're going to get cool
like you are. And that's great, and that really helps everything,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So you know, I'm assuming that doctor Allen Armies is
still out planting plants for the fall.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
He's putting home some yeah, actually he is. He got
some late bulbs that he's throwing in the ground so
the squirrels can eat them for the winter. And he's
also putting in some just you know, the usual winter
stuff for down here, which there's pansies by oldest snap dragons,
et cetera. They look terrible in the winter, but they
come back in the spring, so it's good. You know.
(23:57):
I'm still doing a bit of that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah. I still think going on cabbage and kale is
way overlooked when it comes to fall color because the
colder it gets, the colder it gets, the better they.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Look, and they tolerate that cold without a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
The thing is of a you know, you're taking to
put in these tail or biolas or snaps, and it
looks fairly lovely when you put them in the fall
and h and then it all gets cold, yes, and
so they don't look so lovely and people complain about them.
But the fact is, you know, get a little bit
of heat, a little bit of break in the weather
and they come right back. You're correct, mustards and kales
(24:34):
and all those things. They looks oh yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Know, I uh once I planned last year and I
raised beds. We had a snow in the middle of
the winter and they were peeking up through the snow
with that pink and maroon. I took pictures of that.
It was spectacular coming up through there. And they made
it through the winter and they flowered a course in
the springtime, which I little white flower, but you know,
I still think it's way under used in containers and
(24:57):
then the landscape for for winter color.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, no, no, I agree with you, hndred percent anytime
it's cool. And the fact is I probably don't know
this your listeners, but ornamental ornamental kale is a huge
cut flower or cut stem, I should say. You know,
they've been bred so these stems expand and get taller
and they look quite lovely, you know, smaller heads, but
(25:21):
they're actually bred for cuts yiss.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. The first time I
ever saw that, we took a y We had a
garden center tour up in the Toronto area, brought twenty
years ago Sheridan's Nursery hosted us up there. Yeah, of course, yeah,
and yeah, wheeling and calling in all of those places.
And that's where I first saw some of those taller
kales that were like trees that were up. And of
(25:47):
course the the colors up there were spectacular in the fall,
I mean it, which is unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah. No, some of these little lone plants, like you say,
are actually pretty well known by certain segment. And the kale,
regardless should be should be planted more.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yep, no doubt. Talk with doctor Allen Ormonies of course
his website alan Ormedies dot and ned. Be sure and
check it out. And I think it's interesting you talk
about the bulbs because I tell folks right now, garden
centers whoever happens to sell bulbs in the fall, they're
trying to get rid of them right now because they
go into the holiday season. You can scarf those things
up for a great price. Still plenty of time to plant,
and I do I plant them in the ground, but
(26:23):
I do a few in the containers in pots and
overwinter them in a somewhere and bring them out in
the springtime to give away as gifts or to use
on the in the in the house or whatever. Sure,
and there's really no cost.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
To them, no, they and they need so little and
just give them some cold, put out in the garden somewhere,
or put them wherever where it gets cool, and they're
gonna beautiful in the spring. And as gifts, I agree
with you. Whatever. When I was teaching my class and
they how to my students be forcing bulbs, you know,
and of course they got graded on it. And but
(26:56):
they're so simple, you know, you put them in the containers,
just you get some cool on them for a certain
amount of time, bring them out and the where you go. Yeah,
so that's fay. And of course in the garden itself.
I'm you know, I got looking at my garden right now.
I can see all these all these spots. I don't
know what's in there, but I hope there's bulbs in there.
That's all I can say.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now, now you talked about feeding the squirrels, I mean
they do stay away from a lot of the minor bulbs.
They stay away from the dafts. Obviously, tulips are candy
for them.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Oh the crocus are real candy.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh yeah, the crocus.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Yet, at least at least for my squirrels anyway. I
have non discerning squirrels and chipmunks, of course, but I
know they I love crokers, I just truly love crocers.
But every time I put them in, they seem to
not come up. And uh, you know, I think that's
that's food. But you know, you do your best. So
but those are the kind of things you can put
(27:48):
in containers as well. And I say garden containers even
and you can cover those in the winter so they
can't get in. And they'll hume right.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Through Cincinnati Botanical Garden and Zoo does an excellent job
and a lot they're large, and they'll layer and do
spring spring bulbs layered in these huge urns and things
where they have dafts down below, then tulips above them,
and the miners up top, and just a great show
of us. Just a spring garden, uh in April. And
when they're doing all their tulips and dafts and all
(28:16):
the other things as well.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
It's great stuff. And people think it's I have to
plant each ball by itself, head up, and half the
time they don't know where the head is, just putting
on the ground. They'll figure it out you're right.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
If you're not.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Sure, mix them all up and just let it go.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And let it go. No doubt about talking with doctor
Allen Armitage again. His website is Alan Armitage dot net.
So as you as we start to wind down the
season next week being Thanksgiving and all, when do you
do you put your garden? When do you've officially And
you're in Athens, Georgia, So when do you officially kind
of put the garden to bed? And what do you
do when you do put the garden to bed?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Well, I'm officially put into bed right now.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Sot.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
They've been doing it for the lo It looks like heck,
because it's just things, you know, some something that disappeared.
The leaves are everywhere, they're all falling. No, I'm putting
it to bed right now. Most of the leaves have
come down, and so I cut down any of those
perennials that just you know, they're looking pretty shabby, different
mediums and you know, just stuff. And of course the
(29:16):
HELLI bares look great right now, so they'll they'll be
coming back up. I'm looking right now at at at
you know some shrubs which I'll cut them back up.
I necessary knowing when they flower. But in general, I
just try to clean up all the stuff that looks
like because it's a garden around, I just try to
clean up so it looks how decent when I look
out here. And then you know, I'll try and keep
(29:39):
most of the leaves and stuff in the garden. But
Susan being Susan, she wants a little cleaner, so I
sometimes break out those as well, and just it's you know,
it's putting it to bed is not just chopping hole
darn thing down. Putting it to bed is you know,
taking out that stuff that looks like heck, because it's
going to come back again. For the perennials, you're generally
getting all rid of all the annuals that have died
(30:00):
and awhere you go.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Do you do any feeding in the fall? Do you
say that for spring?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
I really do not. I do it for spring. Yeah,
And I see fairly heavily in the spring. And the
whole the whole common sense thing about fertilizing is just
fertilized when they're actively growing. Most things aren't actively growing
right now. A few things are, and the bulbs don't
need anything. So and I stuck a few digitalis into that.
Maybe I'll fertilize a little bit just to get them going. Well,
(30:25):
we're going to get some cold out of this week too,
so they're not going to take up a whole lot
of stuff when he gets cold.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You talk about common sense. Do you use common sense
a lot when you're gardening?
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yeah, common sense can make common sense, you know, can
be related to laziness. I guess I try to do
as little as I can, and therefore I call it
common sense.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I don't know. I read that article about you out
fighting the law in your neighborhood trying to get things.
It's like, is he used to some common sense here
as far as fighting the law or trying to get
some horticulture?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
They're not, apparently not. Article just articling up on the
Facebook around at these things go. I have no idea.
My wife read it. She said, oh, you're going to
get arrested, ticket down. I said, wow, I know it.
Really it was a little us doing some work for
(31:17):
the community. But anyway, maybe I should have changed the title. Right.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Just google how we fought the law and improved our
local green spaces and you'll learn all about what doctor
Allen Harbidy's does in his downtime when he has everything
else to do. By the way, you know, we have
so many plants of the year. We have to take
a break here. We'll come back and we'll talk about
common sence gardening. But everybody has a plan of the year. Now,
you know, it's almost getting diluted. There's so many plants
of the year out there. I noticed one the other
(31:44):
day that I that I thought, you know what we
haven't I haven't talked about that one. Forever Garden Club
of America came up with their plan of the year
for twenty twenty six and it's iron weed. But it's
the one it's uh, iron butterfly. I like that plant.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, do you know where that came from?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Where?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
I'll tell you when we come back.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
All right, we'll take a break. We'll find out where
that iron weed iron butterfly came from from. Doctor Allen
Armidy's website is Alan Armies dot Net. Here in the
Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (34:00):
Come back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning doctor triple A, Alan Apple Armitage. Come on,
you're giving him a big head neighborhood rebel, but love it,
horticultural and storyteller, doctor Allan ormitage and talking to him,
I was mentioning the plant, the iron weed, iron butterfly,
(34:20):
and you know how it got its name? Well I don't,
but he does. Are you there, doctor triple A? Hold
on a second, come check, see Dan's got him. We'll
(34:41):
try again. Maybe not there you are?
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Okay, Sorry, I don't know what happened. It's you know
this technology.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It happens sometimes in our wonderful technology here. So we're talking.
We're talking about ironwed iron butterfly, which is one of
your favorite greens. It's right, iron butterfly.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I love iron weed period. I think it's a it's
a great native plant. Yes, and many of our many
of our natives have gone through some evolutions so that
they make a more garden, more garden est because the
most you know, iron weeds are quite big and tall,
and they're great if you have a space, but iron butterfly,
and believe it or not, I know you probably don't.
Is I developed that so along with my homestead purples
(35:24):
and my and my sweet potatoes and all that kind
of nonsense I managed to foist on people. I did
iron butterfly a number of years ago, and it's taken
quite a while for it to I mean, it's always
it caught on, but it never kind of went right
through the roof. And I'm placed to see that some
people are finally seeing how wonderful this plant is because
it's still an iron weed and it's still a great plant,
(35:47):
and it just is more and much more, and it
works in the garden so much. I sort has fabulous flowers.
The best part of it, or however, though, are the
is the foliage. The foliage is just extraordinarily beautiful, which
is why quite truthfully introduced. The flowers are okay, but
the folders looks nice all season.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know what's funny is I did not know that
you did that.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Well, there's no reason why you showed it. That was
a good A good ten years ago, I guess, I bet, wow,
And it's been hanging around. It's been hanging around for
that time, and people really enjoyed. I remember I saw
a ton of it in the Chicago b Tackle Guard
and I saw a bunch of it probably at the Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I bet, yeah, we grow it. We grow it on
our nurse. You know, I've always enjoyed it. But you know,
I they brought they had picked that as their plan
of the year, and I said, you know, boy, I
haven't talked about that in a long time, so it's
interesting I brought that up.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Good for them, Yeah, good for them. Well anyway, so
maybe we'll sell a few more. But it's a great plan.
And the whole the whole group of iron weeds are terrific,
but that one, to me is certainly my favorite. Of
course I'm a little biased, but it's a great plant.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
By the way, I thought of you because they were
I had read an article the other day about honey
crisp apples. Of course, it's becoming one of the most
popular apple across the United States, but it's also one
of the hardest apples for them to produce in big number.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
It's a little bit tougher. I guess the growers are saying,
and it's and here it is the most popular. So
but I know you like grandy Smith as well, so
I do.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
But I mean the honey curs find me out those
is kind of my snacks at night. I would have
this little cool little thing you can push down and
make a little slices of out. Oh yeah, so it's
real easy, and that's a nice snack instead of potato chests,
let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh yeah, and when they're cold. We give those away
in the fall for our customers and they absolutely love them.
So it's what talking with you were talking about common
sense gardening. He brought that up earlier, and common sense
gardening is uh uh, well, I tell you what, you know,
somebody should write a book about it. I brought this up,
I don't know a little while back, and guess what
(37:44):
he did. And it's now, uh somewhat available. It's the
newest book from doctor Armony's called The Common Sense Gardener.
And only you could write this book and tell the
story the way you did.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Well. In fact, it is available. It came available yesterday.
The orders were available I think for a few days
now and it's on the website and orders now are accepted.
But I just got literally physically, I got the book
two days ago, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Anyway, so those have those have gone out. My first
order was, you'd love this to a nursery who bought
a hundred.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
And they are using it for gifts instead of your apples.
Are using this little book. And it is a little book.
Anybody who has seen this thing, it's common sense is
rather uncommon. So it was nice, and that's it's not
one hundred pages. But it was real fun to write
because Ron and anybody else out there who takes groups
around their garden, you know the questions you're gonna get.
(38:44):
You're gonna get something about deer pollinators, soil shades done.
You know the questions, and so everybody ever, even though
the question is the same, boy, everybody is so confused
about the answers, you know, training good grief. So anyway,
I wrote this book as somebody asking somebody about the
best way to do pruning, and they said, here's the
(39:05):
common sense way. Let's not let's not sweat it. So
that's what the book is about. And and I think
you'll get yours in the mail run today or certainly
by Monday if not. But so anyway, it's it's a
great I'm really very pleased with it, mostly because I
took a chance on writing it very differently. It's a narrative,
it's like like a real book. And uh, people really
(39:26):
have have have responded. It's a lot of orders come
in already, and some from your group, Ron, So thank
you for mentioning it.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well good, and well I did. I actually I read
the book what about a month ago when you were
first put it out week review it and it's a
it's a great book. And like I said, it's a
you know, you walk this garden to this guy through
life learning about common sense guarding and what a great
way to put a little humor and a little bit
of wisdom and of course hands on experience from you
(39:55):
and the way you write. And it's just again another
easy read, fun to read, and you get you know,
you get something out of it at the same time.
And it's pretty much, you know, down to earth and
I think, you know, I don't care what level of
a gardener you are, you'll enjoy the book. And it's
a it's a fun read. And uh, it's again perfect
(40:16):
timing as far as Christmas goes. And I like that.
I like what that company doing one hundred we have
to may have to take a look at that as well.
That's a great, great idea. So this thing.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Is so, but that the other thing for your readers.
We just did this for for November fifteenth to December fifteenth, right,
so we're also going to have a next spring, of course,
but anybody wants to do as a gift or I'm
getting lots of orders of two's and trees and stuff
like that, just get on it now so I can
get it to you in time.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
That's all, okay. So that's available through the fifteenth. This
is the first run of this. It's a limited kind
of eliminated.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Yeah, there'll be another run in the spring, to be sure,
but I want we want to get this out for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
So if you want to get this out for Christmas,
you got to get on it right away, because of course,
missus Armitage is in the basement right now packaging and
labeling these.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Don't even not go there, I'm telling you, and.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know, and hiding from the police because their rebel
husband's out there fighting the law.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
In the community. Oh gods, life is good in the
past lane.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Right, I tell you what. Anyway, It's called the Common
Sense Gardener, Doctor Allen m Armitage. It's a great one,
but a limited time, limited edition and you can go
to his website, Alan Armny's dot net and and uh
and ordered, and I have read it, and it as
wonderful as usual. You do such a great job, and
we really appreciate you writing that when and I think you,
like I said, no matter what level gardener are, you're
(41:35):
all everybody's gonna appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
Well, thank you. I enjoyed writing it, so I hope
people enjoy reading it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
But now if you'll come back with a book that
I've asked you to write something about apples, it's not
about the apple.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
I listened. I watched the British making show Mary Darry.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I don't know if.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
Anybody watches that show. I love, I love Mary Barry
Shoe did English scolds well, I want to tell you,
and they had apple in them. I'm all over this now.
Of course, I dare not get all a material Susan.
We'll think I've really gone off the deep end. But
that's my next project.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, sure, thank you've gone off the defense. She knows
you've gone off the deep end. It's the new book
from doctor Allen Armony's The Common Sense Gardener. Go to
his website Limited Edition alanarmonies dot net. Just in time,
for the holiday season, Doctor Armitis, have a great Thanksgiving.
Good talking with.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
You here too.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Ron, Thank you and thank you everybody.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Enjoy the season.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
All right, take care, quick break, we come back phone.
Oh no, we're going to go to the West coast.
We're going to talk to Sandra mau her new book
which is outstanding. We got two books today. It's called
Vibrant Harvest Cultivating a Kaleidoscope of Colors in your Vegetable
Garden with heirlooms, modern hybrids, and a whole lot more.
What a great book to make your vegetable garden more colorful,
(42:48):
healthy for you, and how to grow them and how
to can them, and how to do the whole nine yards.
Coming up after the break here in the Garden with
Ron Wilson, Green.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Tom or not.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three talk.
This is in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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