Ron Wilson 11/22/2025 Hour 3

Talking to Author Sandra Mao and also Gary Sullivan.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Our toll free number is eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy, talking about yarding and man, I
have found a book that I guarantee you will. First
of all, you'll just love going through and looking at
all the pictures. It's probably one of the most colorful
books that I've ever seen when it comes to a
gardening book, and rightfully so, because that's what it's all about.

(01:00):
It's called Vibrant Harvest, Cultivating a kaleidoscope of colors in
your vegetable garden with heirlooms, modern ibrids, and a whole
lot more. It's written by Sandra Male and you can
follow her on Instagram at Sandra dot Urban Garden and
guess what she is with us this morning from the
West Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good morning, Good morning, Ron, Thank you so much. I'm
so honored to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, it's an honor to have you on and getting
up so early out there. How's the weather on on
the West Coast this morning?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
The weather the past week, we got a lot of
rain and cold and all my wishable in the garden.
I'm so happy right now.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
So they like the cooler weather liking the rain, so
good for you. I want to tell you something before
we talk this book. As soon as I saw the
cover of this book and the title, I was attracted
to it because if anybody's listening to my show over
all these years, my favorite thing to go look at
are folks vegetable gardens. I'd rather look at at a
cool vegetable garden than a flower garden or a landscape garden,

(02:03):
or whatever it may be. I love vegetable gardens. And
when I saw this and the way you have approached
this making your vegetable garden more colorful, I just I
fell in love with the book. It's absolutely outstanding.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh thank you so much, John. That meant so much
to me to hear that.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I tell you what it is phenomenal. I think after
somebody reads this book and sees all the great things
that you're doing in your garden, which, by the way,
most of which is container gardening, which is my other
favorite way to garden. Container garden and raise beds, I
think you'll start to rethink how you garden and look
more at the colorful things that you can put in
your garden versus just your regular vegetable So let folks

(02:46):
know a little bit about you. You're You're actually a
business and design or decorator major. You're not really really
into the gardening that much, right, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I grew up with my mom and my grandmother, and
we have the garden in our backyard and I just love,
you know, to see all. I remember, I like to
pick jasmine for my grandmother every morning. And then when
I moved to the state, I started to garden a

(03:19):
little bit. And then I start off with fruit tree first,
and the vegetable garden here and there, just growing like
kitchen herbs. And then I start a real like big
garden when during the twenty twenty during the quarantine that
when we all at home, stuck at home. So I
started with container at first and then expanded to rais

(03:44):
bed well.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And now the pictures that I'm looking at, is this
the same garden that you started with at that time?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yes? Yes. I first when I started, I started with
like simple, you know, like a red tomato, and then
I explored into different colors of red tomatoes and peppers.
And because as a kid, I I just love things colorful,
So that is when I started the garden. I just

(04:13):
want to explore some different colors, because when I grow
bin tid to find variety of broccoli. For example, usually
I see green broccoli or white cauliflowers. But I want
to grow something that add colors through the garden.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, and of course that's what you have done, and
they've done a wonderful job letting us know which ones
those are and how to do that. And you pick
a one about forty two or so different vegetables, colorful
vegetables to walk us through for planting in our ga
and most of are the what we would most of
us would normally grow anyway.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yes, and also, like you know, like the one of
the main reasons that I wrote wybront harvests because I
just want to show everyone that growing vegetable doesn't have
to be playing green or boring. I feel like our
garden can be busting the color. And there are so
many beautiful, colorful vegetable out there, and I just want

(05:12):
to inspire her. And it's you know, for them to
explore more varieties and have fun in the process.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Sandra mal is with us this morning. You can follow
her on Instagram. It's at Sandra dot Urban Garden and
I'll be sure and check it out, because it's a
Once you start following her, you will continue to follow her.
The book is called Vibrant Harvest. It is absolutely outstanding.
It's one of the most colorful gardening books I think
I have ever read and enjoyed. Fantastic. You know, after

(05:41):
I finished reading your book, I thought back, and I've
been doing this for a long time, and I love
container guarding her. But I thought back, even as simple
as the peppers, back when I was a kid and
my grandparents were having gardens or whatever, you know, colorful
things in the garden besides a tomato turning, right was
about it. Even peppers, you know, we grew green peppers

(06:03):
and of course my grandparents called those mangoes, but green peppers.
But you know, maybe some yellow bananas or yellow Hungarian wax,
but that was about it as far as the color.
And today, look at just the peppers alone, all the
different colors that are available out there. It's crazy, and
of course many of them are grown now rightfully so

(06:24):
as an ornamental pepper. Just because of what you're doing
here with the color.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, I start to grow discovered that we have purple
peppers even though black color peppers and when I start
growing it and hollers it, it's just so much joy.
And when I shared on my Instagram, there's a lot
of people also that never seen purple peppers before.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, yep, and again phenomenal. And I noticed as you
plant in these in your containers, by the way, uh
and we can say this on as far as a
plug there that those are ve that's the uh Vegio planners.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Right, the Vego Yeah, yeah, the Vego uh race bed
yes you.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And I mean there's so many out there that are
available today and I have seen those. Those seem to
be a really nice for folks that have never done
this before, uh, something to take a look at. That's
obviously what you've used throughout yours as far as most
of your raised beds, and obviously you're using other containers
as well, but that's your kind of your stable. As
I look on the side of those containers, I see

(07:37):
a little unit that looks like a solar pail or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
What is that That is actually a solar light. So
I've been using Lego garden race beds since the beginning
of my journey and I love them. They are really
uh durable and uh it's easy to install, and I
think it's it's perfect race bed for beginner. And then

(08:04):
they go start to design some more product. So in
my garden, even though I have different shape or different
type of container, but all from Vigo, they have the
rolling race bed that is easy for you that grow
in the covision that want to bring your garden indoor.

(08:26):
And then they have the solar light. Because I love
lighting in the garden at night time. Even though people
say that you know, lighting in the garden at nighttime
maybe attract you know, rodent or other in them all
or insight, but I feel like adding light in the
garden at nighttime is such a joy. So when we
go have the solar light, it's so convenient that it

(08:48):
have the magnet to the race bed that you don't
have to use any too.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I think that's I kept looking at that go what
in the heck is that I can tell moisture? And
it looked like it was some kind of a solar
lighting system. What a great idea. I think it's a
great idea. Talking with Sandra MoU follow her on Instagram
at Sandra dot Urban Garden and you're gonna absolutely love it.
The name of the book is called Vibrant Harvest. Let's
take a quick break, we come back. We'll learn more

(09:15):
from Sandra Mau and this great book, Vibrant Harvest. Cultivating
a kaleidoscope of colors in your vegetable garden with heirlooms,
modern hybrids and more. Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (12:09):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson and
I have a book to make you rethink how you
are planting your vegetable garden to make it more colorful
and good for you as well. It's called Vibrant Harvest
Cultivating a Kaleidoscope of colors in your vegetable garden with heirlooms,
modern hybrids, and more. Written by Sandra Mau. You can
follow her on Instagram at Sandra dot Urban Garden. And

(12:31):
she is talking with us this morning from the West Coast,
and we really do appreciate getting up early and spending
time with us.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I have to admit. When I read started reading the
book you talked about if you ever heard somebody say
eat the rainbow, we always said eat your vegetables, but
eat the rainbow. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, That's what I told my kids when I started
to you know, I seen before I have my garden.
I just love iin different colors of vegetable cook for
my kids. So I justly go to the farmer's market
and pick up different colors of califlowers and you know,
cook it and then always tell them that hey it's

(13:12):
the rainbow.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, and what a great way and what a great
way to get the kids involved eating the vegetables as
well when they're very careful. So let me ask you this,
with those kids as they've been growing up, do they
help you in the garden as well?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yes, I do. Before I started my Instagram page, I
have a small patch that I put their initials name
on there and then I let them grow carrots, sweet pea,
and they really enjoy it. They excited with the garden.
And even though right now they don't really do garden much,

(13:48):
but they enjoy harvestings. So and then they run out
there and harvest tomato or green onion and cook. It
just makes me so happy.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh absolutely, And I think, you know, down the road,
after they get through school and everything in college, don't
you think that'll come back to them and the next thing.
You know, they'll be gardening as well.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes, absolutely, just like when I was a kid. I remember, yeah,
that gardening with my grandmother, But then I kind of
like not gard info a while, until now I feel
like everything he's come back. Oh.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Absolutely, Talking with Sandra Molt again, the name of a
book is Vibrant Harvest. Now, you know, and growing these
not only makes your vegetable garden more colorful, makes your
harvest more colorful, makes your canning more colorful. But a
lot of these aren't they even better for you because
of the different colors.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, I think different colors vegetable also have different flavors
and also different health benefits.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, so as you're you know, so again you know,
as you're eating these, research has showed a lot of
those are much higher in the vitamins and the calcium
and iron and all all of that versus some of
the regular vegetables and again colorful at the same time,
better for you at the same time phenomenal, And she
has done the homework for you. As a matter of fact,
as you work through these common very common stem plants,

(15:14):
root crops, fruiting crops, you know, the varieties that you
listen here are all varieties that typically are locally available
at most of the mini garden centers that are out
there today, and if they aren't, I always tell folks
go to your local garden center, take this book with you,
and ask them to grow them for next year for
you to plant. I gotta ask you. I got a

(15:36):
picture from you off the instagram of you holding a
Swiss chard and I swear that thing is four feet
tall with those maroon red stems and those green leaves. Wow,
how did you grow that thing?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So I think I feel like all vegetable because I
got a lot of people say that that, uh, you know,
organic gardening, we cannot growth in big and I just
want to show them that each vegetable they need, you know,
a certain nutrient and a certain you know thing that
they need. If you give them all of them at
the same time, the right thing and grow them the

(16:17):
right way, they can grow so big. And that's sweet
short even though it's shumongous, but it's still edible.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
The stem steel tender and I like to do steel
fry with the fresh shirt.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Uh which one do you? Which one is that? The
ford Hook Giant the one that I'm looking at here.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yes, the sweat shot the pin one that knew that knew,
Yeah that I.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Hold, Yes, unbelievable. And again you can see this picture
at Sandra dot Urban Garden. That thing is unbelievable. So
as I do you have a secret recipe as far
as the planting UH mix that you use in your
in your vego gardens, Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I also listit uh in in the book to my
preserent recipe for soil bad men.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I like to do things simple, you know. Uh. And
it's cost less as well. I only use for Bigo garden.
It's the metal raisbad with the open bottom, so I
usually I set it on the ground and also I
have some space that I uh said it directly on
the concrete.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
So I use the potting makes organic compost and kitchen
scrap wormcasting that I made it in the garden. And
uh I just all too perspertilizer. I love well balanced
fertilizer for the start for all of my vegetable and

(17:47):
then I add some other fertilizer that each individual crop
meat for example, like tomato, they need more calcium and
uh at the center have wildly figuring they need more nitrogen.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I noticed that with you, when you're talking about the
rainbow tomatoes, you do address blossom androd, which is a
common problem for all gardeners, tomato growers across the United States. Yes,
so you've got that as well. And of course you
address all of these. You list the varieties that are
available out there for you, You talk about how to
plant them, whether it's from seed or from transplant. She

(18:26):
walks you through the entire process. And then at the
end of the book you talk about harvesting, You talk
about how to do the the container gardening, you talk
about even canning and even doing some kim chie.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, those recipe that I added in the book is
the recipe that when viral on my Instagram, it is
so easy and simple. So the way I construct the
book is a plus pod is the you know, show
people how to grow a sudden crop. Because when I

(19:04):
got I receive a lot of questions in the past
when people ask about you know, exactly you know how
to to grow tomato, how you grow peppers. So I
feel like when they get the book, they can go exactly,
you know, if they want to go grow tomato. Everything
just in that to say which the wall profile and

(19:25):
then after growing. I also a part to show people
how to start the garden, so when people the beginner,
they want to know how to start the garden. And
then the third part to take care of the garden.
And then the last part is to enjoy all the
hard work.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, I'll tell you what you have done an outstanding
job here. I highly recommend this book. Read it this
winter when you're planning in your vegetable garden for next year.
You will change the way you look at It's called
Vibrant Harvest by Sandra Mouth. Follow her on Instagram at
Sandra dot Urban Garden. Thank you so much for getting
up early. Now you can go back to bed.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh, thank you so much for having.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Me all right, Thank you very much, Sandra Mau again
at Sandra dot Urban Garden. The name of the book
is called Vibrant Harvest. Outstanding quick break. We come back.
We'll continue on here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (21:59):
Welcome back to yarning here at eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five website. Ron Wilson online dot com.
Planning of the week. Real Christmas trees, whether it's cut
or baldenbur laughter or growing in a container, can please
consider the real Christmas tree this holiday season. It is
the traditional choice and the best choice, I think besides

(22:20):
between that and artificial. And I understand sometimes artificial has
to happen, situation, or you're allergic to the tree, or
whatever it may be. But if you can go the
real route, I would certainly suggest that you do that.
We've got Rita's recipe. It's a Thanksgiving appetizer with jolipinos
and cranberries. It's a little bit of cream cheese and

(22:42):
some crackers and you are in be sure and check
that out. The famous Ron Wilson's White Castle hamburger stuffing
recipe is on our website and that's through the folks
at White Castle as a matter of fact. And I
know I just want some White Castle period. Their breakfast
sandwiches are great, and I just a little I had
adapted a little bit, you know, changed a few things around,

(23:04):
But that's up there for you and it's pretty darn good.
Uh So be sure and check out all that. And
by the way, thanks again to Sandra Mouse. She got up.
She's on the West coast, got up extra early to
join us this morning and go to follow go to
her instagram at Sandra dot Urban Garden and look at
all the things she's doing in her backyard in containers.

(23:25):
It's phenomenal. And I guarantee, uh that you know what's
funny is when I saw this book and I got it,
I just looked at it and said, that's that's me.
Because if you look at all the pictures and the
colorful because I love vegetable gardens, and if you do
what she's doing and adding both the color to it

(23:47):
and growing your vegetables, uh, it's really makes it a
lot more fun, a lot more interesting, and a lot
more enjoyable. I think.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But you'll you'll come away with some great ideas.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
She walks you through how to grow all of these
many of the varieties that she selects here. I see
in all local garden centers, we grow a lot of
the stuff that she talks about. It's just you know,
bringing it all together and making it more colorful. So
be sure and check it out. And she does walk
you through the whole thing. But check out her Instagram
site as well at Sandra dot Urban garden and what

(24:19):
a great great thing. I love it, And yeah, I
love the book. It's very inspiring for me and I
know it will be for you as well. And don't
forget doctor Allen Armidy's new book, Common Sense Gardening is
now available for you as well at his website at
Alan Armitages dot net. Just in time. There's a short
run that they did of those and that can get
them out before Christmas. So you get a couple of

(24:40):
Graven's and I'll add one more to that from doctor Armities.
I still like of Naked Ladies and Forget Me Nuts.
That book about how plants got their names is still
a favorite. I still buy a few of those and
give them away for Christmas gifts or whatever kind of
a gift. Folks enjoy it, whether you're a gardener or not.
Tells you about the names of plants and how they

(25:01):
got their names. Very enjoyable read, just like doctor Armitage
is a very enjoyable person and the way he writes
is easy read. But be sure and check that one.
That one out as well. But again, some great books
there with Christmas ride around the corner, not only for
gifts for other people, but for you as well and this,
I tell you what. Just write it down Sandra dot

(25:24):
Urban Garden Instagram. Okay, go look at the picture of
her holding that that Swiss chard ford hook is.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
What that one is?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
How big that thing is, How colorful it's like it's illuminated.
It is phenomenal, So be sure and check it out.
Of course, as we talk with doctor Armitage, still time
to plant those bulbs. Get out your local garden center
or where they may sell, may have sold spring flowering bulbs.
I guarantee they're going to be on sale. Scarf those up,
get them planted out there, plant them and containers. You're

(25:55):
gonna thank yourself for doing it.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
You buy one hundred daffodils, takes about fifteen minutes. Get
your power auger out there, plower planter, get those planted.
Next spring you will thank yourself a bazillion times for
planting noose for that spring color. Do some in containers
you'll think yourself as well. But still plenty of time
to do that. I'm starting to see the ambarillis bulbs
out there too, especially the wax ones. Wow has that

(26:18):
gone crazy? Amarillis bulb wax around the outside. They sit
it down so it's got a base to it. So
you can buy the amarillis bulb. You don't have to
pot it up, you don't have to put it in
a vase, you have to do anything with it, but
sit it on the countertop and let it do its thing.
And remember, once it starts to grow, it takes six
about six weeks or so for them to flower, so

(26:40):
you want to get them started right away if you
want that color for the holiday season. But man, am
I seeing that out there and cost a little bit
more expensive. But when you're buying amarillis bulbs, the bigger
the bulb, the more expensive it's going to be. So
you'll see bulbs at all different prices. All right, smaller
ones are cheaper, but the big one's more expensive. But

(27:01):
you get more stems of flowers from the bigger bulbs
and less with the smaller bulbs, So keep that in mind.
And then of course the wax bulbs, after you're done
within flowering, peel that wax off of there, plant them
up and continue to grow them as a houseplant with
the foliage all winter all summer, and then you can

(27:24):
start that cycle all over again. As far as getting
them the flower for you during the holiday season. If
you're not sure how to do that, email me. I've
got a tip sheet for that. As a matter of fact,
I think it's on our If you scroll down on
our website you'll find it a couple weeks back on
how to get those to flour again. But yeah, those
are available for you too. And remember the paper white

(27:44):
kids that are out there, They only take about three
weeks or so, so you'll do those probably right after
Thanksgiving and those should be in flour and smell it
up the house come to holiday season. That's the paper
whites usually available in both yellows and as well. Keep
watering those plants, keep mowing your grass if it's still growing.

(28:05):
Keep mowing the grass. If it's not growing and the
leaves are falling, keep malting those back in, collect that up,
put it in your vegetable garden until it in. It's
a wonderful soil amendment. By the way, have that soil
tested in that garden so you know where the pH
level is and what nutrients you may be needing. So
you'll have a change that now and they'll be ready
to go for you next spring. Fall amendments soil amendments.

(28:29):
This is the time to do it. I like doing
it in the fall versus the spring because you got
all winter for those amendments to just change. Be ready
to go come together and be ready to grow, to
grow those vegetables for you next spring. So be sure
and get on that right away as well. One last
thing before we take a break and we'll do a
little home improvement from mister Gary Sullivan is two things.

(28:53):
One is, if you have a cool season, there's still
time to do that last feeding, all right, if you
haven't done it, do that last feeding this time of
the year. Get it done soon. Wouldn't wait too much longer,
Still time to do that. What else are I going
to talk about? Oh? If you have boxwood, all right,
and I'm going to bring this up off and on

(29:13):
through the winter.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
If you have boxwood, no matter where you live, I
want you to google box tree moth, box tree moth,
and I want you to learn more about it. We
have had box tree moth move into our area, and
it is it if it's easy to control if you
catch it early, but it can devastate your boxwood without

(29:37):
you even knowing what's going on. And most folks I
think where they've devastated their boxwood and they don't see
the caterpillars anymore that I've eaten feeding on the leaves.
Think it's just like they write it off to a
general boxwood blight, and it's not. It's an insect that's
causing some serious issues. It's a non native Europe and
ASI have been dealing with it for years. Can it

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I had it for years now. It's moved into the
United States, unfortunately, and it's moving fairly and quickly. They're
seeing it now in Virginia, and of course with Williamsburg
and all the boxwood in Virginia trying to figure out
making sure they've got programs in place to spray and
protect the box would But I want you to where
the matter. Where you live east of the Mississippi, if

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you've got boxwood, I want you to just spend some
time and if you don't, email me and I'll send
you some info on it so you know more about it,
the box tree moth, and learn more about it and
what to look for, because come next spring, from what
we're understanding right now, if you catch that first round
and there can be several generations, it may get you

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maybe the best thing you can do. But again, learn
more about it. May not be in your area, that's okay,
learn about it to know about it in case it
does show up. But it's called box tree moth. Learn
more about it. All right, quick break, we come back.
We're gonna have a little bit of home improvement from
the man that met the legend, mister Gary Sullivan here
in the garden.

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his website, Garysullivan online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one,
the Only. Gary Sullivan, Good morning, mister Wilson Jrning mister Sullivan, Sir,
it's a warm, beige kind of day, Isn't it a
beige kind of day? I tell you what I think?

(33:35):
When was the rainy day? Was that Tuesday?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Windas?

Speaker 6 (33:37):
I think they all were ron I mean they're really
all the time. I'm really strung out or anything, but
I think the last three days were per.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Tuesday was probably the darkest, gloomiest rainy day that I
think I've ever experienced.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
There was a couple in there, man, what is the deal?
I mean it was dark Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, I mean it was dark outside. It was like
it was five thirty the evening six.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Was it the inversion, the day of the inversion?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I don't know, but it was. I thought it was
kind of I have to ask round and see the
day of the inversion. I don't know, but it was
pretty dark.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
It was dark, no question, no question about that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, Christmas, l Christmas lights are going up like crazy.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
I have a whole list of safety tips. Today.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I was wondering when it was gonna We're going to
get the Christmas light show.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I'm on top of it, are you?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Well, you're always on top of it. Well, you always.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
I don't want anybody to be surprised that somebody's up
there cutting their Christmas cords.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Oh me, if you saw what I do once I
go outside, he would just shake your eye. What you
probably would most people? What well the extension chords and
the plugs and all that.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
I do.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
And I say, but this only way I know how
to do it.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
So I want to do it. Throw them on the
ground and let's go.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, hope they don't do it in the half hour.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
They'll light up them. I don't put up lights like
I used to. You know, I don't get up on
the ladder anymore.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
I don't do ladders anymore.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I don't either.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
In fact, I have a thing on ladder safety today too,
because you know, I know you're guilty of this, because
I think don't know that every guy is guilty of this.
Get the extension ladder out, leaning on the gutter, you
got anybody helping you? Myself, got two feet, you got
two arms. You should always work with like a three

(35:29):
point stance. Two feet, one arm, and you can reach
out a little bit. Yeah, And it's about the time
when the gun off the ladder, the one armed way
off the ladder.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
We're leaning.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
Nobody's out there in case something bad. We have a
two point stance, sometimes one point stance.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
So are you are you like in total laughter when
you watch Christmas Vacation?

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh yeah, I'm only laughing at myself sometimes.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Been there, done that?

Speaker 5 (36:03):
I've done that. Yeah, you know, I've done that.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know what, I haven't worked though. I don't do
it anymore, but I used to do a lot of
stuff up, you know, up in the air. When you
use an extension ladder. I have the one that has
the platform on it. Oh great, So you go up
four steps and then you stand there like an orchestra conductor.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Guy, Well that would be.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
And it makes it so much easier, you know, I
can turn around and do stuff, and it's a wider
base and it really does work.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
I like using that ladder.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
You got about a three, three or four step footstool
that has a big platform at the top with the
kind of a hoop where you.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Can kind of hold on.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, lean up against it.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
So comfortable and so safe. I mean, you're not going
to be fifteen feet up in the air with it
or anything. But man, that thing for just you know,
eight ten foot decorations. Man, it's really it's really nice.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, and then you know what, seriously, if folks look
at that, I mean they are one hundred bucks or something,
but it's it's worth it. Yeah, they have that thing,
and you're right, I can get about ten feet or so,
maybe twelve. But yeah, it works for me, and I
think it's great. And I don't I feel comfortable.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
Well that's the key. But you know, when I'm talking
about hanging off the ladder, I mean, who hasn't done that?
Of course I think I was reading.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
I don't have the article with me today, but I
think that's the number one accidents that emergency room see
his ladder accidents really Yeah, don't hold me of that.
It's been a few years ago since I read that,
but it made sense. Made sense.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Well, it must accidents in emergency room ladders.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
It must be pretty important. Because there's that PSA that
they run all the time. Oh I missed it all
that thing's been running for ten years.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
They tell you not to do that.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, but I'm gonna go up and clean the ladder
and don't do that. I didn't hear the guy fall
and they talk about, you know, don't use ladder.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Tell you what, who doesn't know somebody that has fallen
off the ladder seriously.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yep, I mean including me. And then you get up
and look around and make sure nobody saw you fall
and everything feels all right, and then you keep on going.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
And you know, we're always talking about slope around the foundation,
pulling water away from it, slope around the foundation. Where
are you gonna put your ladder when you're doing your
decorations on your house on the foundation? Make sure that
baby is solid. Make sure I think it's three feet
away from the wall to get the good angle, and yeah,

(38:24):
make sure somebody's out there with you and just kind
of either have somebody just steady the ladder or get
one of those devices that attaches at the top of
the ladder that's got two big arms that's set on
the roof.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I saw that on a commercial the other day. Guy
was doing that, and I saw that it was like
onto the shingles. Yeah yeah, it kind of went around
the gutter and yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Just makes sense.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
I'm not spending that fifty dollars, but when you break
your leg gosh, we've all been there, We've all cut.
We've all made shortcuts, no doubt. Some of us luckier
than others, no doubt. So we'll preach a.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Little bit about that, just being being careful. Well, let
me being careful.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
What are your thoughts about? You know those things for
cleaning out your gutters that it is along like a
watering wand with the hook on the top and then
the pressure washer.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Have ed it?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
You know?

Speaker 6 (39:18):
Okay, you know I think some of these things and
I'm not here to tear it down. It's it's probably
a little I'm not used one. Yeah, it seems like
my experience over the year is the easy out. You know,
the battery powered bethtub scrubber that was big. A lot
of these things that are created to make life easier
are just a big pain.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Gary, we have one, you have one, you love it.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I don't use it.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
It's kind of like it's I don't think it's been
a little harder doing that. If you're going to clean
your gutters, then you should. I want everybody to raise
their right hand right now. I will clean my gutters
before the first snow, please.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
I was talking about the scrubber I know I don't
want another tan.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Yeah, but if you're going to clean the gutters, run,
I mean, whatever suit your boat. I think the brush big,
you know, a little tiny power watcher thing you're you're
talking about. But I'll tell you what, a garden crown,
a pair of gloves does really good for me.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
But then I have to get on the ladder.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yeah, otherwise get help.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I tried one of those. I thought it, I got
over me and it was a mess all over the place.
I used it once and that was it. It was
done with it.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
I do think some of these things.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
They come out and you go, oh gosh, that's great,
I won't have to do that, and then use it
and like, well that's terrible.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Yeah, it cleans the gutters, right.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I blew everything out of there. Yeah, and you blew
yourself on me and everything else that was out there.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
God, I love this, honey. I'm so glad you got
this for me.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Gary. Is all this junk's supposed to be all over
the front of our house and the plants?

Speaker 5 (40:52):
What did you do? That's that's another that's what happened.
Why do you have leaves everywhere? Now? That's that thing
got me.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
So if we put the Christmas tree up yet we did, yeah,
and which is a first. I'm assuming then if you've
got it up, it's an artificial.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Yeah, it is. We made. We made, we made a
promised to each other.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Let's do the artificial. Let's get it up early. We're
having a little early get together. Let's get this thing up.
And it was so gloomy, so let's do it right now.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
And we did.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
To Calda so did a great, great job and the
other decorations. That's always her gig, and it looks beautiful.
But we made a commitment that we're going to do
live next year. In fact, we had found, you know,
our box full of indoor you know, Christmas lights for
the tree, and so go should.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
We get rid of these? I go, nope. Next year
we're going to do a love which is I agree.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
All right, So if I'm if we make it the next.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Year, so if we're still around, we'll do a live one.
The plan is to do a live if we're still here.
If we're still here, yeah, right, well, have a great show.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
Hey, thanks sir, all right, great Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
You have a happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Gary
Sullivan Garysullivan online dot com. Thanks all of our colors,
thanks to our sponsors, Thanks of course to Danny Glee
star producer, because without Danny Gleeson and none of this
stuff would happened. Danny Gleeson, thank you so much for
all that you do. Now do yourself a favor. Still
plenty of time to plant that tree. You Get out
and plant those trees, native plants, pollinator plants, be friendly,

(42:27):
pollinator polite, get the kids involved with gardening and the
dogs involved with gardening. Pam for your worms, and get
out there and do a live Christmas tree. Sulvans aren't
doing it this year, but they are next year. Do
it this year for yourself. Live or wonder You can
plant outside, but use a live tree and by all means,
make it the best weekend and the best Thanksgiving of
your life.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
See you.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Not Gardening questions.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Ron has the answers at one eight hundred eighty two
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