November 29, 2025 • 43 mins
# From Greens to Garden Catalogs: Your Winter Gardening Guide
Ever wondered how to extend your gardening season into the winter months? In this episode, we explore the surprising cold-hardiness of greens like collards and kale, which can thrive well into the holiday season with minimal protection. Host Ron Wilson shares nostalgic memories of his grandmother's open-hearth fireplace cooking that made even children crave collard greens, while offering practical advice for protecting plants as temperatures drop.
## Timestamps:
- 3:45 - What to do with plants you haven't planted yet as temperatures drop
- 8:30 - Final lawn fertilization timing and frozen ground warnings
- 12:20 - Growing cold-tolerant greens through winter
- 17:30 - Must-have garden catalogs for winter planning
- 22:15 - Breaking up crusty mulch before winter
- 25:45 - Tree protection against buck rubs and frost crack
- 28:30 - Ash tree regrowth after emerald ash borer damage
## Key Takeaways:
- Cool-season greens like collards, kale and mustard greens can tolerate temperatures down to 20°F without damage
- Create simple protection using straw bales, plastic covers, or hoop houses to extend harvest into December
- Johnny's Seeds catalog offers excellent resources for year-round greens growing, including microgreens for indoor winter production
- Crusty mulch should be broken up before winter to allow water penetration
- Install tree trunk protectors to prevent damage from deer, rabbits, and frost crack
Don't let winter stop your gardening journey! Whether you're planning next year's garden with catalogs or harvesting fresh greens from your protected beds, there are plenty of ways to keep your green thumb active during the colder months.
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarning on this Saturday after Thanksgiving.
Hopefully you had a great Thanksgiving, got together with the
family or whatever, enjoy some uh some nice eats and
again sitting around with the family. We I know when
we got done eating, wee late ate late in the day, uh,
(00:59):
and there was card games going on. The kids are
playing card games and just kind of sit back and relax.
And hopefully you were able to do the same thing.
If you're out of town and have to travel home
today or tomorrow, be safe, please, I got a lot
of storms coming through. I think we're kind of sitting
back here right now just to see where we're gonna
(01:19):
land on that specter. You know, we're gotta get the snow.
We're not gonna get snow. Is it gonna be rain
or ice? Who knows? But we'll just have to kind
of stick with it. We could get all we could
get all of the above, who knows or nothing or nothing?
It's probably if they're calling for a lot of it, Dan,
we won't get any. Yes, isn't that the way it
usually works. Yes, sir, So anyway, Joe is off today,
(01:41):
no cup of joe Joe's Yeah, really taking the weekend
off so he gets a little extra time and chilling out.
And Danny, did you get everything you wanted for Thanksgiving? Yes?
Had the family together, family together.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Good food, relaxing. I was off from here.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
What more did you ask for?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So it was nice? Yeah, I didn't have to get
up at two thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Do you cook? Do you do anything for Thanksgiving dinner?
I just stay out of the way, good Man, Yes, sir,
good Man, do what you're asked to do in an
otherwise stay out of the way. Yes, sir, I am
with you one hundred percent. I have hosted many, many
with the family Thanksgiving dinners and I like doing that.
I enjoy cooking and doing all the cooking and stuff.
(02:25):
But now seems like my son in law has taking
that over at their house and I'm enjoying that, although
I sometimes I feel a little guilty, and I will
try many He knows I'll help a little bit, but
he likes doing and I was the same way. If
I'm doing it, let me do it. You know you
can help me. Serve it set it up or whatever.
But I was, you know, let me, let me take
(02:45):
care of it. And he's kind of the same way.
He's got everything under control and whatever. And I even
sent him a text after was all said and time
we went home and I said, look, man, you do
a great job. But anytime you need me to help you,
I just say so I'm there to help. So anyway,
I hope you had a great one. I had fun
with it. Weather was good here for the most part.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Cool cold.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Did you get that one cold already? Yes? Did it
catch you by surprise? You know, yes, it did me. Uh,
you know, you know it's going to dip down a
little bit and then come back up typically, But as
I'm looking at the forecast right now for our area,
it looks like all the next week is going to
be pretty pretty cold. So it's it's going to stick around.
So I'm sure the questions now become. You know, I've
(03:32):
got plants that I bought last week because we were talking about,
you know, continue to plant right up until the holiday season,
weather permitting. Obviously, Now what do I do with these plants?
Do I still plant them? Do I not plant them?
And you know, should I protect them or whatever. And
I think the thing to remember is that if you
have plants right now sitting outside in containers, larger containers
(03:56):
shouldn't be a problem, but in containers right now, if
you're not going to be able to plan them over
the next week, but you're going to try to still
get them planted, I would probably either get them up
against the house, the foundation of the home, so they
keep a little more protected out of the winds it
stays a little bit warmer around the foundation of the home.
Do that, or you can bring them inside an unheated garage,
(04:18):
unheated shed water them before you bring them in there
so they've got good moisture and leave them staying there
cold until you're ready to plant. If by chance, the
weather doesn't change and it stays like this through the
rest of the month of December, and we're gonna find
out by the way we got ron Roth it's going
to join us in the next hour and give us
(04:39):
a little weather update for around the country. But if
it would stick with us and you're not able to plant,
that's when we start to looking at Okay, do I
heal them in over the winter, meaning trenching them, sticking
them down to the ground, mulching around them outside. Do
I leave them in the unheated garage, the unheated shed,
you know, places like that. But that's what you're going
to need to do over the wintertime. Get them back
(05:02):
out in March sometimes so that they come back to
life as they normally would and start planting in that time.
So don't panic. We still have plenty of time to go,
all right, So just kind of keep an eye on
them and the weather and see where we are then
take it from there. But I still have a couple
of things I want to get planted. I got a
(05:23):
couple of small trees I wanted to add before we
get to the end of the season. I will still
try to do that. And the thing of it is,
you know, with the temperatures I'm looking at it right
now into the upper twenties, but in the upper thirties
and forties during the day, the ground's not going to
be frozen that if any at all, just a crusty
on the top. You can you can still continue to plan.
I guarantee you next week there will be landscape cruise
(05:46):
out planting in our area as long as the soil
is workable. You know, even if there's a little bit
of crust on the top, they just punch right through
that and keep right on planting. So smaller plants probably wouldn't.
But the you know, two three four gallon they're two three, five, ten,
fifteen gallon plants, twenty five gallon trees or whatever, not
an issue. Continue to plant. So don't panic. If you
(06:09):
haven't done anything yet, you stow those plants sitting out there,
just keep watching the weather and see. And like I say,
we've planted right to the end of the season with
no problem at all. And some landscape crews even over
the winter January and February and early March, if the
site is open and they can get into it, and
the trees are usually larger material are already dug and
(06:32):
ready to go, it's a great time to continue to
plant those as well. So you know, again, don't panic,
We'll stick with it. We'll see what happens, watch the weather,
and then take it from there. As far as yeah,
I can get them in the ground, or I ran
out and the weather just didn't wasn't good to me,
and you know you gotta put them away. Window wells
(06:53):
work great mulching them in the landscape. Beds work great
up close to the house, unheated garages, unheated sheds in
the barn, any place to give them a little out
of protection over the winter time. And you know, again,
if it stays really dry, you might want to water
them as well. Looking at the lawns right now, I
had a lot of questions this past week. I didn't
(07:13):
get that last feeding down, was kind of messing around,
didn't get it. Now we're looking at these colder temperatures.
Can I still put that last feeding down for the
cool season grasses? I would say that if you didn't
get it down like by last this past Wednesday, looking
at our long range forecast and the temperatures that are
out there, I don't think i'd do anything from this
(07:35):
point forward. I think I'd put that bag a fertilizer
back in the garage or wherever, stored away where it's
nice and dry. Unlet's look to use it in the
springtime and we'll give them a spring feeding. Hopefully you
got that September or early October feeding in. If we
missed that second feeding, we do. It's just the way
it goes, and then we'll get on it. In the
(07:56):
springtime as well. But I think at this stage in
the game, I would probably not do anything from this
point forward cool season grasses as far as feeding, all right,
just put that bag away and don't use it. If
you did, you're good to go. And remember, anytime you're
messing with fertilizers, and we get this time of the year,
(08:16):
if the ground is frozen on the top and where
it's hard, where you know it is frozen, don't ever
apply a fertilizer on top of frozen ground. Why is that? Well,
a lot of times that can just if it sits
on top and then you get rain or whatever, just
washes away and never makes it into the soil. So
let's not waste it. So check it if it's frozen,
(08:39):
do not use the fertilizer on top of the ground.
All right. So that's a good rule of thumb. But
I think for the most part, looking at the lawns
right now, cool season grasses, I would say no more,
no moss as far as lawn feeding, and let's just
right out the rest of the season and look to
feed him in the springtime. Before we take a break,
let's go to Matt in Ohio. Matt good morning.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Morning, Yes, sir, collared greens. Everybody. Everybody was talking about
collared greens for Thanksgiving and how it's a cool season crop.
I live northern Ohio. I probably couldn't plan it. But
does Rita have a recipe if I can buy it in.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
The store for cooking collared greens? Yeah, oh absolutely. As
a matter of fact, Reda's coming up at the top
of the next hour, So keep listening and we'll ask
her about cooking collared greens and see if she has
some kind of a recipe for you. But you know what, Matt,
you can grow those. As a matter of fact, they
they'll take some really cold temperatures and so you know
(09:47):
where you are up in northern Ohio, I still think
you could play. You can definitely plan them up until
you got a really serious drop in the temperatures that
will do a number on them. But if you really
like collar greens, you can always use straw bales or
cold frame excuse me, and grow them in that and
that protects them just enough to carry you right into
(10:09):
the holiday season. So you would be able to plant
collar greens in that area as well. But keep listening.
Top of the next hour, we'll have read on. I'll
see if she can throw out a collar green recipe
for you.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, Matt, good talking to you. Appreciate the call.
Quick break we come back. Phone lines are open for you.
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Speaker 1 (13:10):
Welcome back here in the Guard with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking yarding on this post Thanksgiving weekend,
lots of football games, a boy, there was a ton
of college games on yesterday. It kind of surprised me
and a bunch today, And yeah, they were kind of
interested in that one at noon Ohio State and Michigan.
(13:30):
So we'll see what happens there. Hopefully the weather doesn't
become a major factor at that game. By the way,
talking there with Matt about those greens, you know, I'll
tell you what if you like greens, like collared greens,
mustard greens, the kales and the cabbages things like that. Remember,
those greens are what we consider cool season crops. They
(13:55):
do the best when the temperatures are cool outside the springtime.
The first things we're planting in the garden would be
a lot of these cool season crops that tolerate those
cooler temperatures, that tolerate those you know, late frosts, late freezes,
and they do really well during the cooler time of
the spring season and poop out as the heat starts
(14:18):
to come on during the summer. And then you can
come back and replant those again for the fall season.
And you can start doing that first of August when
you know, with the younger ones, and have those greens
if you can give them any kind of protection, you
can have greens up till Christmas with no problem whatsoever.
(14:38):
And when I say a little bit of protection, all
I'm talking about is depending on how big the patches
that you're growing these greens. But I have folks that
will get straw bales and make a wall, you know,
like a whole wall around with this patch and just
stretch plastic across the top, put glass across the top,
put grow cover, the row covers across the top. Anything
(15:02):
like that to hold the heat in to help protect them.
Only if the temperatures get really cold. Think about this.
Mustard greens and collared greens, and a lot of the
kales will easily tolerate twenty degrees twenty degrees without any damages.
Twenty degrees. Now, if it stays like that for a
(15:23):
long period of time, it'll start to take a toll
on them, but for the most part, going down into
the twenties not an issue. Fifteen degrees it can start
the damage in but a lot of times the greens
collar greens will come bounce right back after that, but
they can take some really cold tempts. So if all
you do is just kind of protect them a little bit,
(15:44):
and in raised beds that's where those hoop houses taking
PVC pipe, or you can do it in the ground
as well and just making a hoop and then putting
plastic over the top of leave the ends open so
it can breathe, so it stays cold. We don't want
to warm it up, all right. The goal is not
to warm it up, but to protect it from getting
too cold and damage from really extremely low temperatures. But again,
(16:07):
you can grow these greens, mustard kales, cabbages, the color greens, spinach.
A lot of those are extremely cold tolerant. That you
can have fresh greens right up until the holiday season
and maybe even later depending on what the weather's like
over the wintertime. So they're very easy to do. They
(16:29):
love the colder temperatures. As a matter of fact, if
you grow greens in the spring and harvest them, and
then grow greens in the fall and harvest them, if
you taste it the two of them together, I almost
guarantee you that you'll like the fall grown greens. And
they're sweeter and a better flavor than the spring grown greens.
(16:49):
So keep that in mind. And you know it's again
it needs protection. You need to protect just to be sure.
But they can take some really cold temperatures. But keep
that in mind. And speaking of the green I don't
know if you get we get garden catalog season coming
up again, right And I don't know what garden catalogs
(17:10):
you get, but I like to use them just for
inspiration and some information. Depending on the catalogs, some of them,
I'm not sure, but inspiration mostly and and some of
them are very good information. I'll tell you the one
that I really like that I keep on hand all
the time when it comes to vegetables is Johnny's Seeds.
(17:30):
Johnny's Seeds, great catalog, great reference. It's unbelievable the seeds
that they do sell and what they have available there.
And Johnny's does all that, they do their own research
on their their gardens, their employees grow these things. I mean,
it's it's unbelievable. But Johnny's has really addressed year round
(17:52):
greens growing, whether it be seasonal like we were talking about,
or getting involved with the microgreens again with a little
bit of protection, or growing them indoors. If you want
to source for microgreens, seeds and good information, look at
johnny Seeds. Johnny Seeds. That catalog is crazy as a
(18:13):
matter of fact right now, and if you sign up
for their newsletter you'll get like a weekly update as
far as what's going on right now. They're pushing micro
green production because it's so easy to do inside your house.
So again, you know, we know greens are good for us,
We know the importance of eating our greens, so both
(18:34):
outside and inside over the wintertime, there is no reason
why you aren't growing your own fresh greens that you
can harvest on a regular basis outside with a little
bit of protection, no big deal, and inside with maybe
a few grow lights and a few grow trays and
alternature growing, and you can have those fresh microgreens all
(18:55):
the time. As a matter of fact, you might get
into a situation where, you like Gary Bachman, our Southern gardener,
grows so many indoors he can, he harvest those, bags
them up and actually sells them, sells them to other
people for fresh greens that count on them that don't
want to grow them. So you know, keep that in mind.
But again, I had written down my notes today as
(19:17):
we get into this catalog season coming up, Get Johnny's Seeds.
I think that's still one of the best catalogs out
there for real, as far as the information and they
walk you through everything and the selection that they have
out there as well. I still like Baker Creek. Baker's
Creek is a great one for rare and unusual those
(19:38):
heirloom plants. Good information that is phenomenal. It's so beautiful
the catalog, you will absolutely love it. Totally Tomato, if
you're into tomatoes, get Totally Tomatoes catalog. Absolutely outstanding. Indiana
Berry for fruits and berries and Burpie's catalog absolutely outstanding.
Kittizawa or Asian Greens and all. She had a Zawa
(20:02):
and you have to go online and just download it.
That's another great one as well, but again so easy
to grow greens almost all the time. It is phenomenal.
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Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. That
is our number talking yard and in good morning, I
am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy on this post
Thanksgiving weekend. Hopefully had a great Thanksgiving. And uh uh,
I don't know, damn what have you ever gone out
on Black Friday and shopped?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Not unless I actually worked at that department store or location.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Then you. My my sisters do that every year, and
they were out all day until late last night.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I just know I stay far away from that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I just don't. I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
If I need something from the store, I go to
our local dollar store.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
They yeah, just on that day, well, they were they
were talking about all you know, that's all them late
last night or you know, well we found all kinds
of great deals and you know, quick bargains that they
were slapping. Say, I'm them.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
All across the interstate from US was packed. I saw
a seven yesterday morning.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I saw it on the open up to I know,
I saw on the news they were already telling people
to go in the back lot, which was almost already
totally full as well.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I don't get nobody was doing that. People are
creatures of habit.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Oh yeah, well that's signs. Did you notice that when
you got office?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, the signs. But nobody was doing that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Well, no one's going to do it today either. Oh no,
you get off and you turn to the right and
you go to the front parking lot.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh my, But anyway, I wouldn't. I would never do
I've never done that, and I will never do that.
And I remember the back in the day, they used
to get two newspapers on Thanksgiving. They were real thick paper,
they inquire and then they would all tear them apart
and go through all the ads and make notes, and
they just had a blast doing it. I guess, uh
not me, I will stay home.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And I know one year, one of the stores I
worked at open at one am, and I volunteered for
that shift because nobody else was doing it. And I
had to pass a bunch of people who are waiting
in line, and these people looked like they were going
to hurt me because I was passing them. I just
show them my badge, was like, I work here, I
work here.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh my, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But they look like they were going to hurt me
for passing them up.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen where they tramp
all over top of each other. Oh yeah, as soon
as that door opens up it. I don't get it.
But they have a lot of fun. And if that's
the works for you, Great Talking Yardny at eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Don't forget our website,
by the way, at ron Wilson online dot com. Rita's
recipe this week is using some leftovers from Thanksgiving. If
(24:16):
you have leftover ham or turkey, no soup, don't put
it in a soup. Don't do that. Let's make a salad.
Make a cob salad. Yes, and she's got a recipe
for a yummy cob salad and two different types of
dressing your choice. She's got a healthier ranch with yogurt,
(24:38):
that's what it's called, healthier ranch with yogurt dressing. Or
you can do my mom's famous blue cheese dressing, Mel's
blue cheese dressing. And I guarantee if you make this
this blue cheese dressing, which I don't know my mom,
I don't know where she got the recipe from, but
people have her make it for them for them all
(25:00):
the time. But once you get done making it and
then you taste it with a spoon, it's amazing how
you've got to put the spoon down or the next
thing you know, you've eaten everything that you just made.
It's outstanding. So anyway, you got the recipe from Rita,
the cob salad, and you got two dressings to choose,
from the yogurt dressing or my mom's famous blue cheese dressing,
(25:25):
which is absolutely outstanding. And Rita will be joining us
at the top of the hour, and then we'll check
with Rita too on the collar greens. You know what? Yeah, yeah, really,
sit down, sit down, not yet, not yet. When I
think of collar greens, my dad's family and my mom's
(25:47):
West Virginia. That's by Buggy Joe and I have so
much to the common. And my dad's from Central Kentucky.
And my great grandmother and my grandmother on my dad's side,
my great grandmother and their last name was MEAs me
e Ece Sally and Cornelius. MEAs had a She had
(26:07):
the wood stove, and up until they moved out of
that house, they still had outdoor plumbing. This is and
I remember this distinctly, outdoor plumbing. Had still had a
well that they pumped from on the back porch, had
a wooden stove that had all the little split wood
and she cooked on that. But she had when you
walked in the living room, there was a huge fireplace
(26:29):
that was a big open, open hearth fireplace. It was
a big rounded dome fireplace that you could actually kind
of step into if you wanted to. That had a
huge cast iron arm that swung around and she would
put cook on that, put a pot there and then
swing it into the over top of the fire and
(26:51):
brack out again. And as a kid growing up, you know,
kids don't typically like greens too much, spinach and all
of that. But when she would cook her collared greens
and mustard greens. She did. It was a greens mix
and some ham in there and whatever else spices she
threw in her. I have no idea. Smelled so good
(27:12):
that every time I think of I think of greens,
I think of my grandmother Meace, cooking those on that
stove on that fire in an open heart fireplace. And
the smell was absolutely outstanding, and the taste was better
than the smell. So as a kid, you actually those.
You loved eating those greens, and you didn't have to
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force those down, no doubt about it. But every time
I think of those, I could, and you can tell
I'm salivating right now. But she used to make those imploied.
You could smell that out in the gard. You can
smell it outside. Oh, smelled so good. But anyway, she
had greens that they grew greens that were protected in
a little area, so they had greens, you know, pretty
much throughout the wintertime as well. So anyway, I got
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off on that tangent, but I think of that every time.
By the way, I was talking about those catalogs, get
your jump on them early, get your name in the pot,
and I'll go through this one more time for you.
I like Baker's Creek and it's and sometimes I call
Baker's Creek rare and unusual heirlooms totally Tomato, Johnny's Seeds
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at the top of the list. Johnny's Seeds at the
top of the list, and sign up for their emails
as well. Indiana Berry for fruits and berries, great information.
That one is unbelievable. If you grow fruits and berries,
burpie obviously is a given. You have to have that one.
And if you like a lot of greens, kiddozawa k
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I T A Z A w A. And if you
don't remember those, just email me and I'll get that
back to you. And two gardening supply catalogs. I really
enjoy Gardener's Supply and Gardener's Edge and both of those.
Those if you get those six or seven catalogs, you're
pretty much set through the through the winter, as far
as all the unfo and inspiration you could ever imagine.
(29:01):
But to keep those in mind, please, those are those
are great ones to get to get hold of. And
I am really up on this. The book I had
last week with Sandra Mao Vibrant Harvest. You know me,
I love vegetable gardens. I love to walk through production gardens.
I think they're outstanding. And the way she has taking
it now is not only the production garden, and she
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does most of it and raised beds and containers and
she she uses the Avigo raised beds which are really cool.
But you know, now she looks at it at not
only growing the fruits and berries, vegetables and all that,
but looking at the color so as a more colorful
vegetable garden. And a lot of times those color vegetables
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and in all greens are even more beneficial for you
than the regular green ones are. So a great book
called Vibrant Harvest by Sandra Mao Uh, and it's absolutely
it was outstanding. I love the book and it was
fun talking with her as well. Before we take a break,
let's find out how Dick from Daton's Thanksgiving was. Good morning, Dick,
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Good morning.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
How is everybody?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
We are great? So what do you have for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Oh? I went to my friends over at Uh. We
had turkey and dressing hash, brown castle rows uh uh
uh dressing uh, sweet potato pie. Well we had two
times of pie, pumpkin and uh, pumpkin and pecan. What
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a deal with?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
So nice?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Any whip cream to go on top of those?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Gotta load them up with whipped cream.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Well, good, good thing to tell the table at the
biggest game of the year.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Biggest game of the year, Go box. I hope that
you know that. I think they they got the team
to do it. As long as they don't let Michigan
get in their heads. That's the big thing. So we'll
go bucks all.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
The other night, I thought i'd put the game. I
could not believe. Joe Burrell looked pretty good, didn't he.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Joe took him a couple series to get started. I
just watched the beginning of the game, but I guess
he came on pretty strong towards the end there. Yeah,
and did a nice job. So yeah, everybody's happy.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
The other team pushed through. The Browns made it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Too, and the Browns even one again, how about that one?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You think they found a quarterback with mister.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Yeah, I do, I really do.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Yeah. So it's been pretty good around here. It's been
a little slow, but uh, I gotta go see my
my friend today. He takes me out shopping. We're gonna
do some shopping and then tomorrow I go to Bible study.
It's kind of.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Nice, you know, sure nice, sure, good for you, good
for you well, always a pleasure hearing from you. I'm
glad you had a happy Thanksgiving. And let's talk next Saturday. Okay,
have a good one, all right, Dick, good good talking
with you as always, Dick from Dayton. Quick break, we
come back. Phone lines are open for you. Eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Coming up at
the top of the hour, Rita Hikenfeld will be with us.
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We'll talk about her recipe that she has going on here.
We'll ask her if she has any collared greens recipes,
and we're gonna talk about holiday spices and how you
should be actually using them a year round because they're
so good for you. There at the bottom of the hour,
Ron Roth is the yarbor duck and hobby meterologists. We'll
find out about the weather, and we'll also talk about trees.
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Speaker 1 (34:17):
We are talking yarding at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five point five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy. Hey, you know we're talking about
of course, we had the cold weather that's moved in
here and kind of nasty weather all around the country
over the next few days, maybe even Tuesday a little
bit harder. I don't know, we'll see what happens. But
(34:38):
as this moves through, a couple things that you still
want to get outside and take care of, and one
of which that I don't know that I've ever mentioned
this before this time of the year. It usually comes
up in the spring, late spring and summertime, and especially
during the summertime where it's hot and dry and everything's baking,
(34:58):
especially the mults that you have, especially if it's a
really fine shredded hardwood mulch, it has a tendency to
get wet. Then the sun hits on it, bakes on it,
and then it turns into a pie crust. You know,
it's just like a roof over the top of your plants,
and then when it rains, that just rolls right off
the top and out to the outside. So I have
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always suggested during that time of the year to get
out your garden weasel, because this is the only time
the weasel really works that's hiding up in your attic
or your garage somewhere, and you rake that run out
across the top of your mulch and break that up.
I call it the krusties, all right. It gets real
crusty on the top, so that garden weasel that you
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can't use it for anything else because it doesn't work
in clay soils. That is one thing that really does
a nice job to break that up. Well, I noticed
about ten days ago as I was out and about
that folks that have the finer shredded hardwood mult for
some reason was getting very crusty as well. I would
step on it and it was pretty hard. So I
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would suggest you probably get out there now. Obviously, if
it's frozen right now or it's very cold, not gonna
it's gonna be crusty anyway. But if it's not frozen
and you get out there and you get on it
and you tell it's very crusty, you need to break
that up before we go into the winter season so
that the rain and snow can penetrate down through that
mulch and obviously be absorbed down into the soil to
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help one of the plants that are underneath that mulch.
So you know, I've always recommended to you know, getting
rid of those crusties in the summertime, but I'm also
now seeing where it does happen in the fall as well,
especially staying warmer and drier in the fall season. And
again that's another reason why the more coarse bark is
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becoming more and more recommended, because it's a little more poorous,
it doesn't crust up like that, it allows the soil
to breathe a little bit better. It'll water penetration done
down through that. And whether we're talking fresh chips, whether
we're talking shredded hardwood, and of course the pine barks
are obviously they're open so they don't crust up. Pine
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straw doesn't get crusty. So you know, if you do
have and like I say, most of the time it's
the really fine shredded hardwood that does that, you might
want to consider going to a little bit more coarse hardwood.
You'll still get the color out of it and then look,
but something a little more coarse, I think your plants
will enjoy it a lot more than they're really fine stuff.
(37:34):
And then fine stuff looks nice, easy to work with
but long term can be maybe not so recommended. And
by the way, talk about winter mulching. We typically wait
to do our final maulching once the ground does get
fairly cold down into the thirties and maybe even frozen
a little bit. We mulch on top of that and
keep it like that over the winter time. This will
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be a great example. They're find time for you to
be out and looking to do that needed around your
yard and garden for that final mulching. And I also
while you're out and about doing that, if you have
smaller trees and they are not protected with a tree
trunk protector to protect them against it from the buck
rubs over the wintertime, and we're talking a sleeves that
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fits from the ground up to the bottom branch, all right,
you need to put that on there. If you have
smaller trees that have really smooth bark, like red maples
for instance, and they have a really smooth bark, and
maybe say, well, don't have any deer in my area,
well that's fine, put the protector on there. Anyway, Why
would I do that run because of two reasons. One
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is where it touches the ground, all right, it protects
the base of that plant from being chewed on by rabbits,
voles and mice and they'll chew on that bark over
the wintertime and do a number on the bottom of
those but also protect from a buck rub if one
would come through the area. But it also protects against
frost crack. And many of you probably have experienced this
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where you've got a smooth, thin skinned barked tree younger
in the springtime, you go out and there's a crack
right down the side of the tree, not a buck
rub or anything, it's just a crack and it's like
what in the heck, And it's usually on the south
southwest side of the tree. Well, the bottom short story is,
I'm not going to go through the whole explanation, but
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the cells are frozen. The sun hit said, they've popped,
they explode and the bark splits. That doesn't typically kill
the tree, but it does create this this split which
then we'll seal over eventually. But you know you don't
want that to happen. So putting the tree trunk protectors
on there not only protected from buck rubs and from
critters chewing at the base of the tree, but it
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also keeps helps to protect protect against frost crack or
suncrack over the wintertime, So both of them. There's several
reasons for doing that, and keep that one in mind.
And by the way, you have fruit trees or whatever,
and you've got mault around the base of those fruit
trees or any tree, sure the mulch is away from
the tree, so it looks like a donut. And make
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sure you put protectors on those fruit trees as well,
because those critters love to chew on fruit tree bark,
so protect those as well. John in Kentucky, John, good morning,
Good morning, Ron.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I'm good, serving yourself.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I'm doing great, Thank you good. So I'll tell you
why I'm calling. I have some anchorage over in northern Kentucky,
and before the Emerald ash boar, it was pretty full
of ash trees, which obviously they're all gone, but actually
they're not all gone. That's what I was calling about.
I literally have hundreds of little baby ash trees sprowning
(40:40):
up right. And I have no idea if there's you know,
like a parent or are these seeds bible for that
many years?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, or anyway, two things. And answered your question, yes,
they can be and so you will get ash. And
we're seeing that now where ash are either coming back
up from seeds that were dropped and they'll remain viable
for several years and then finally start to sprout. And
number two, we're actually getting you know, trees that had
the tops had died fell over and then they're starting
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to sucker back up from the roots or from around
the trunk at the base of the tree. So they're
actually regrowing from that as well. So, yeah, they will
regrow when we are seeing that. The problem is the
emeral dashboard is still here. So even though populations are
way lower than they used to be when we had
all the ash trees, they're still here. And you know,
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if you think ahead over time, as those trees start
to get two inch calipers. So I would I'm guessing,
but I would imagine this is going to happen, We'll
see a resurgence in the Emerald dashboar again.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Yeah, okay, I was wondering. I was I trying to
bushog around them, but I wonder if I'm wasting my part.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Nope, I let them continue to grow, let them go
for it, let them reforce that I wouldn't I wouldn't
waste you know, waste our time. As a matter of fact,
we'll throw that out of Ron Roethlis at the bottom
of the next hour, see what his thoughts on doing
around those as well. But that's what we're seeing, and
we you know, they're gonna come back up. But the
Emerald ashboard is still out there. Lower populations treatment of
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the ash trees. You may back off a little bit
more than what timing wise, what you used to do,
and kind of monitor them on a regular basis, but
it's still out there and it's still going after ash
trees and that's the only thing that it goes after.
We'll throw that at Ron at the bottom of the
hour and see what he has to say. All right,
take a quick break. Coming up next, Rita Hikenfeld here
in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarning on this Saturday after Thanksgiving.
Hopefully you had a great Thanksgiving, got together with the
family or whatever, enjoy some uh some nice eats and
again sitting around with the family. We I know when
we got done eating, wee late ate late in the day, uh,
(00:59):
and there was card games going on. The kids are
playing card games and just kind of sit back and relax.
And hopefully you were able to do the same thing.
If you're out of town and have to travel home
today or tomorrow, be safe, please, I got a lot
of storms coming through. I think we're kind of sitting
back here right now just to see where we're gonna
(01:19):
land on that specter. You know, we're gotta get the snow.
We're not gonna get snow. Is it gonna be rain
or ice? Who knows? But we'll just have to kind
of stick with it. We could get all we could
get all of the above, who knows or nothing or nothing?
It's probably if they're calling for a lot of it, Dan,
we won't get any. Yes, isn't that the way it
usually works. Yes, sir, So anyway, Joe is off today,
(01:41):
no cup of joe Joe's Yeah, really taking the weekend
off so he gets a little extra time and chilling out.
And Danny, did you get everything you wanted for Thanksgiving? Yes?
Had the family together, family together.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Good food, relaxing. I was off from here.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
What more did you ask for?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So it was nice? Yeah, I didn't have to get
up at two thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Do you cook? Do you do anything for Thanksgiving dinner?
I just stay out of the way, good Man, Yes, sir,
good Man, do what you're asked to do in an
otherwise stay out of the way. Yes, sir, I am
with you one hundred percent. I have hosted many, many
with the family Thanksgiving dinners and I like doing that.
I enjoy cooking and doing all the cooking and stuff.
(02:25):
But now seems like my son in law has taking
that over at their house and I'm enjoying that, although
I sometimes I feel a little guilty, and I will
try many He knows I'll help a little bit, but
he likes doing and I was the same way. If
I'm doing it, let me do it. You know you
can help me. Serve it set it up or whatever.
But I was, you know, let me, let me take
(02:45):
care of it. And he's kind of the same way.
He's got everything under control and whatever. And I even
sent him a text after was all said and time
we went home and I said, look, man, you do
a great job. But anytime you need me to help you,
I just say so I'm there to help. So anyway,
I hope you had a great one. I had fun
with it. Weather was good here for the most part.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Cool cold.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Did you get that one cold already? Yes? Did it
catch you by surprise? You know, yes, it did me. Uh,
you know, you know it's going to dip down a
little bit and then come back up typically, But as
I'm looking at the forecast right now for our area,
it looks like all the next week is going to
be pretty pretty cold. So it's it's going to stick around.
So I'm sure the questions now become. You know, I've
(03:32):
got plants that I bought last week because we were talking about,
you know, continue to plant right up until the holiday season,
weather permitting. Obviously, Now what do I do with these plants?
Do I still plant them? Do I not plant them?
And you know, should I protect them or whatever. And
I think the thing to remember is that if you
have plants right now sitting outside in containers, larger containers
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shouldn't be a problem, but in containers right now, if
you're not going to be able to plan them over
the next week, but you're going to try to still
get them planted, I would probably either get them up
against the house, the foundation of the home, so they
keep a little more protected out of the winds it
stays a little bit warmer around the foundation of the home.
Do that, or you can bring them inside an unheated garage,
(04:18):
unheated shed water them before you bring them in there
so they've got good moisture and leave them staying there
cold until you're ready to plant. If by chance, the
weather doesn't change and it stays like this through the
rest of the month of December, and we're gonna find
out by the way we got ron Roth it's going
to join us in the next hour and give us
(04:39):
a little weather update for around the country. But if
it would stick with us and you're not able to plant,
that's when we start to looking at Okay, do I
heal them in over the winter, meaning trenching them, sticking
them down to the ground, mulching around them outside. Do
I leave them in the unheated garage, the unheated shed,
you know, places like that. But that's what you're going
to need to do over the wintertime. Get them back
(05:02):
out in March sometimes so that they come back to
life as they normally would and start planting in that time.
So don't panic. We still have plenty of time to go,
all right, So just kind of keep an eye on
them and the weather and see where we are then
take it from there. But I still have a couple
of things I want to get planted. I got a
(05:23):
couple of small trees I wanted to add before we
get to the end of the season. I will still
try to do that. And the thing of it is,
you know, with the temperatures I'm looking at it right
now into the upper twenties, but in the upper thirties
and forties during the day, the ground's not going to
be frozen that if any at all, just a crusty
on the top. You can you can still continue to plan.
I guarantee you next week there will be landscape cruise
(05:46):
out planting in our area as long as the soil
is workable. You know, even if there's a little bit
of crust on the top, they just punch right through
that and keep right on planting. So smaller plants probably wouldn't.
But the you know, two three four gallon they're two three, five, ten,
fifteen gallon plants, twenty five gallon trees or whatever, not
an issue. Continue to plant. So don't panic. If you
(06:09):
haven't done anything yet, you stow those plants sitting out there,
just keep watching the weather and see. And like I say,
we've planted right to the end of the season with
no problem at all. And some landscape crews even over
the winter January and February and early March, if the
site is open and they can get into it, and
the trees are usually larger material are already dug and
(06:32):
ready to go, it's a great time to continue to
plant those as well. So you know, again, don't panic,
We'll stick with it. We'll see what happens, watch the weather,
and then take it from there. As far as yeah,
I can get them in the ground, or I ran
out and the weather just didn't wasn't good to me,
and you know you gotta put them away. Window wells
(06:53):
work great mulching them in the landscape. Beds work great
up close to the house, unheated garages, unheated sheds in
the barn, any place to give them a little out
of protection over the winter time. And you know, again,
if it stays really dry, you might want to water
them as well. Looking at the lawns right now, I
had a lot of questions this past week. I didn't
(07:13):
get that last feeding down, was kind of messing around,
didn't get it. Now we're looking at these colder temperatures.
Can I still put that last feeding down for the
cool season grasses? I would say that if you didn't
get it down like by last this past Wednesday, looking
at our long range forecast and the temperatures that are
out there, I don't think i'd do anything from this
(07:35):
point forward. I think I'd put that bag a fertilizer
back in the garage or wherever, stored away where it's
nice and dry. Unlet's look to use it in the
springtime and we'll give them a spring feeding. Hopefully you
got that September or early October feeding in. If we
missed that second feeding, we do. It's just the way
it goes, and then we'll get on it. In the
(07:56):
springtime as well. But I think at this stage in
the game, I would probably not do anything from this
point forward cool season grasses as far as feeding, all right,
just put that bag away and don't use it. If
you did, you're good to go. And remember, anytime you're
messing with fertilizers, and we get this time of the year,
(08:16):
if the ground is frozen on the top and where
it's hard, where you know it is frozen, don't ever
apply a fertilizer on top of frozen ground. Why is that? Well,
a lot of times that can just if it sits
on top and then you get rain or whatever, just
washes away and never makes it into the soil. So
let's not waste it. So check it if it's frozen,
(08:39):
do not use the fertilizer on top of the ground.
All right. So that's a good rule of thumb. But
I think for the most part, looking at the lawns
right now, cool season grasses, I would say no more,
no moss as far as lawn feeding, and let's just
right out the rest of the season and look to
feed him in the springtime. Before we take a break,
let's go to Matt in Ohio. Matt good morning.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Morning, Yes, sir, collared greens. Everybody. Everybody was talking about
collared greens for Thanksgiving and how it's a cool season crop.
I live northern Ohio. I probably couldn't plan it. But
does Rita have a recipe if I can buy it in.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
The store for cooking collared greens? Yeah, oh absolutely. As
a matter of fact, Reda's coming up at the top
of the next hour, So keep listening and we'll ask
her about cooking collared greens and see if she has
some kind of a recipe for you. But you know what, Matt,
you can grow those. As a matter of fact, they
they'll take some really cold temperatures and so you know
(09:47):
where you are up in northern Ohio, I still think
you could play. You can definitely plan them up until
you got a really serious drop in the temperatures that
will do a number on them. But if you really
like collar greens, you can always use straw bales or
cold frame excuse me, and grow them in that and
that protects them just enough to carry you right into
(10:09):
the holiday season. So you would be able to plant
collar greens in that area as well. But keep listening.
Top of the next hour, we'll have read on. I'll
see if she can throw out a collar green recipe
for you.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, Matt, good talking to you. Appreciate the call.
Quick break we come back. Phone lines are open for you.
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Speaker 1 (13:10):
Welcome back here in the Guard with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking yarding on this post Thanksgiving weekend,
lots of football games, a boy, there was a ton
of college games on yesterday. It kind of surprised me
and a bunch today, And yeah, they were kind of
interested in that one at noon Ohio State and Michigan.
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So we'll see what happens there. Hopefully the weather doesn't
become a major factor at that game. By the way,
talking there with Matt about those greens, you know, I'll
tell you what if you like greens, like collared greens,
mustard greens, the kales and the cabbages things like that. Remember,
those greens are what we consider cool season crops. They
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do the best when the temperatures are cool outside the springtime.
The first things we're planting in the garden would be
a lot of these cool season crops that tolerate those
cooler temperatures, that tolerate those you know, late frosts, late freezes,
and they do really well during the cooler time of
the spring season and poop out as the heat starts
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to come on during the summer. And then you can
come back and replant those again for the fall season.
And you can start doing that first of August when
you know, with the younger ones, and have those greens
if you can give them any kind of protection, you
can have greens up till Christmas with no problem whatsoever.
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And when I say a little bit of protection, all
I'm talking about is depending on how big the patches
that you're growing these greens. But I have folks that
will get straw bales and make a wall, you know,
like a whole wall around with this patch and just
stretch plastic across the top, put glass across the top,
put grow cover, the row covers across the top. Anything
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like that to hold the heat in to help protect them.
Only if the temperatures get really cold. Think about this.
Mustard greens and collared greens, and a lot of the
kales will easily tolerate twenty degrees twenty degrees without any damages.
Twenty degrees. Now, if it stays like that for a
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long period of time, it'll start to take a toll
on them, but for the most part, going down into
the twenties not an issue. Fifteen degrees it can start
the damage in but a lot of times the greens
collar greens will come bounce right back after that, but
they can take some really cold tempts. So if all
you do is just kind of protect them a little bit,
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and in raised beds that's where those hoop houses taking
PVC pipe, or you can do it in the ground
as well and just making a hoop and then putting
plastic over the top of leave the ends open so
it can breathe, so it stays cold. We don't want
to warm it up, all right. The goal is not
to warm it up, but to protect it from getting
too cold and damage from really extremely low temperatures. But again,
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you can grow these greens, mustard kales, cabbages, the color greens, spinach.
A lot of those are extremely cold tolerant. That you
can have fresh greens right up until the holiday season
and maybe even later depending on what the weather's like
over the wintertime. So they're very easy to do. They
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love the colder temperatures. As a matter of fact, if
you grow greens in the spring and harvest them, and
then grow greens in the fall and harvest them, if
you taste it the two of them together, I almost
guarantee you that you'll like the fall grown greens. And
they're sweeter and a better flavor than the spring grown greens.
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So keep that in mind. And you know it's again
it needs protection. You need to protect just to be sure.
But they can take some really cold temperatures. But keep
that in mind. And speaking of the green I don't
know if you get we get garden catalog season coming
up again, right And I don't know what garden catalogs
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you get, but I like to use them just for
inspiration and some information. Depending on the catalogs, some of them,
I'm not sure, but inspiration mostly and and some of
them are very good information. I'll tell you the one
that I really like that I keep on hand all
the time when it comes to vegetables is Johnny's Seeds.
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Johnny's Seeds, great catalog, great reference. It's unbelievable the seeds
that they do sell and what they have available there.
And Johnny's does all that, they do their own research
on their their gardens, their employees grow these things. I mean,
it's it's unbelievable. But Johnny's has really addressed year round
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greens growing, whether it be seasonal like we were talking about,
or getting involved with the microgreens again with a little
bit of protection, or growing them indoors. If you want
to source for microgreens, seeds and good information, look at
johnny Seeds. Johnny Seeds. That catalog is crazy as a
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matter of fact right now, and if you sign up
for their newsletter you'll get like a weekly update as
far as what's going on right now. They're pushing micro
green production because it's so easy to do inside your house.
So again, you know, we know greens are good for us,
We know the importance of eating our greens, so both
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outside and inside over the wintertime, there is no reason
why you aren't growing your own fresh greens that you
can harvest on a regular basis outside with a little
bit of protection, no big deal, and inside with maybe
a few grow lights and a few grow trays and
alternature growing, and you can have those fresh microgreens all
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the time. As a matter of fact, you might get
into a situation where, you like Gary Bachman, our Southern gardener,
grows so many indoors he can, he harvest those, bags
them up and actually sells them, sells them to other
people for fresh greens that count on them that don't
want to grow them. So you know, keep that in mind.
But again, I had written down my notes today as
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we get into this catalog season coming up, Get Johnny's Seeds.
I think that's still one of the best catalogs out
there for real, as far as the information and they
walk you through everything and the selection that they have
out there as well. I still like Baker Creek. Baker's
Creek is a great one for rare and unusual those
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heirloom plants. Good information that is phenomenal. It's so beautiful
the catalog, you will absolutely love it. Totally Tomato, if
you're into tomatoes, get Totally Tomatoes catalog. Absolutely outstanding. Indiana
Berry for fruits and berries and Burpie's catalog absolutely outstanding.
Kittizawa or Asian Greens and all. She had a Zawa
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and you have to go online and just download it.
That's another great one as well, but again so easy
to grow greens almost all the time. It is phenomenal.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five Here
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Speaker 1 (22:00):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. That
is our number talking yard and in good morning, I
am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy on this post
Thanksgiving weekend. Hopefully had a great Thanksgiving. And uh uh,
I don't know, damn what have you ever gone out
on Black Friday and shopped?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Not unless I actually worked at that department store or location.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Then you. My my sisters do that every year, and
they were out all day until late last night.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I just know I stay far away from that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I just don't. I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
If I need something from the store, I go to
our local dollar store.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
They yeah, just on that day, well, they were they
were talking about all you know, that's all them late
last night or you know, well we found all kinds
of great deals and you know, quick bargains that they
were slapping. Say, I'm them.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
All across the interstate from US was packed. I saw
a seven yesterday morning.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I saw it on the open up to I know,
I saw on the news they were already telling people
to go in the back lot, which was almost already
totally full as well.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I don't get nobody was doing that. People are
creatures of habit.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Oh yeah, well that's signs. Did you notice that when
you got office?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, the signs. But nobody was doing that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Well, no one's going to do it today either. Oh no,
you get off and you turn to the right and
you go to the front parking lot.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh my, But anyway, I wouldn't. I would never do
I've never done that, and I will never do that.
And I remember the back in the day, they used
to get two newspapers on Thanksgiving. They were real thick paper,
they inquire and then they would all tear them apart
and go through all the ads and make notes, and
they just had a blast doing it. I guess, uh
not me, I will stay home.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And I know one year, one of the stores I
worked at open at one am, and I volunteered for
that shift because nobody else was doing it. And I
had to pass a bunch of people who are waiting
in line, and these people looked like they were going
to hurt me because I was passing them. I just
show them my badge, was like, I work here, I
work here.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh my, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But they look like they were going to hurt me
for passing them up.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen where they tramp
all over top of each other. Oh yeah, as soon
as that door opens up it. I don't get it.
But they have a lot of fun. And if that's
the works for you, Great Talking Yardny at eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Don't forget our website,
by the way, at ron Wilson online dot com. Rita's
recipe this week is using some leftovers from Thanksgiving. If
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you have leftover ham or turkey, no soup, don't put
it in a soup. Don't do that. Let's make a salad.
Make a cob salad. Yes, and she's got a recipe
for a yummy cob salad and two different types of
dressing your choice. She's got a healthier ranch with yogurt,
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that's what it's called, healthier ranch with yogurt dressing. Or
you can do my mom's famous blue cheese dressing, Mel's
blue cheese dressing. And I guarantee if you make this
this blue cheese dressing, which I don't know my mom,
I don't know where she got the recipe from, but
people have her make it for them for them all
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the time. But once you get done making it and
then you taste it with a spoon, it's amazing how
you've got to put the spoon down or the next
thing you know, you've eaten everything that you just made.
It's outstanding. So anyway, you got the recipe from Rita,
the cob salad, and you got two dressings to choose,
from the yogurt dressing or my mom's famous blue cheese dressing,
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which is absolutely outstanding. And Rita will be joining us
at the top of the hour, and then we'll check
with Rita too on the collar greens. You know what? Yeah, yeah, really,
sit down, sit down, not yet, not yet. When I
think of collar greens, my dad's family and my mom's
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West Virginia. That's by Buggy Joe and I have so
much to the common. And my dad's from Central Kentucky.
And my great grandmother and my grandmother on my dad's side,
my great grandmother and their last name was MEAs me
e Ece Sally and Cornelius. MEAs had a She had
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the wood stove, and up until they moved out of
that house, they still had outdoor plumbing. This is and
I remember this distinctly, outdoor plumbing. Had still had a
well that they pumped from on the back porch, had
a wooden stove that had all the little split wood
and she cooked on that. But she had when you
walked in the living room, there was a huge fireplace
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that was a big open, open hearth fireplace. It was
a big rounded dome fireplace that you could actually kind
of step into if you wanted to. That had a
huge cast iron arm that swung around and she would
put cook on that, put a pot there and then
swing it into the over top of the fire and
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brack out again. And as a kid growing up, you know,
kids don't typically like greens too much, spinach and all
of that. But when she would cook her collared greens
and mustard greens. She did. It was a greens mix
and some ham in there and whatever else spices she
threw in her. I have no idea. Smelled so good
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that every time I think of I think of greens,
I think of my grandmother Meace, cooking those on that
stove on that fire in an open heart fireplace. And
the smell was absolutely outstanding, and the taste was better
than the smell. So as a kid, you actually those.
You loved eating those greens, and you didn't have to
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force those down, no doubt about it. But every time
I think of those, I could, and you can tell
I'm salivating right now. But she used to make those imploied.
You could smell that out in the gard. You can
smell it outside. Oh, smelled so good. But anyway, she
had greens that they grew greens that were protected in
a little area, so they had greens, you know, pretty
much throughout the wintertime as well. So anyway, I got
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off on that tangent, but I think of that every time.
By the way, I was talking about those catalogs, get
your jump on them early, get your name in the pot,
and I'll go through this one more time for you.
I like Baker's Creek and it's and sometimes I call
Baker's Creek rare and unusual heirlooms totally Tomato, Johnny's Seeds
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at the top of the list. Johnny's Seeds at the
top of the list, and sign up for their emails
as well. Indiana Berry for fruits and berries, great information.
That one is unbelievable. If you grow fruits and berries,
burpie obviously is a given. You have to have that one.
And if you like a lot of greens, kiddozawa k
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I T A Z A w A. And if you
don't remember those, just email me and I'll get that
back to you. And two gardening supply catalogs. I really
enjoy Gardener's Supply and Gardener's Edge and both of those.
Those if you get those six or seven catalogs, you're
pretty much set through the through the winter, as far
as all the unfo and inspiration you could ever imagine.
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But to keep those in mind, please, those are those
are great ones to get to get hold of. And
I am really up on this. The book I had
last week with Sandra Mao Vibrant Harvest. You know me,
I love vegetable gardens. I love to walk through production gardens.
I think they're outstanding. And the way she has taking
it now is not only the production garden, and she
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does most of it and raised beds and containers and
she she uses the Avigo raised beds which are really cool.
But you know, now she looks at it at not
only growing the fruits and berries, vegetables and all that,
but looking at the color so as a more colorful
vegetable garden. And a lot of times those color vegetables
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and in all greens are even more beneficial for you
than the regular green ones are. So a great book
called Vibrant Harvest by Sandra Mao Uh, and it's absolutely
it was outstanding. I love the book and it was
fun talking with her as well. Before we take a break,
let's find out how Dick from Daton's Thanksgiving was. Good morning, Dick,
(30:05):
Good morning.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
How is everybody?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
We are great? So what do you have for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Oh? I went to my friends over at Uh. We
had turkey and dressing hash, brown castle rows uh uh
uh dressing uh, sweet potato pie. Well we had two
times of pie, pumpkin and uh, pumpkin and pecan. What
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a deal with?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
So nice?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Any whip cream to go on top of those?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Gotta load them up with whipped cream.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Well, good, good thing to tell the table at the
biggest game of the year.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Biggest game of the year, Go box. I hope that
you know that. I think they they got the team
to do it. As long as they don't let Michigan
get in their heads. That's the big thing. So we'll
go bucks all.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
The other night, I thought i'd put the game. I
could not believe. Joe Burrell looked pretty good, didn't he.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Joe took him a couple series to get started. I
just watched the beginning of the game, but I guess
he came on pretty strong towards the end there. Yeah,
and did a nice job. So yeah, everybody's happy.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
The other team pushed through. The Browns made it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Too, and the Browns even one again, how about that one?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You think they found a quarterback with mister.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Yeah, I do, I really do.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Yeah. So it's been pretty good around here. It's been
a little slow, but uh, I gotta go see my
my friend today. He takes me out shopping. We're gonna
do some shopping and then tomorrow I go to Bible study.
It's kind of.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Nice, you know, sure nice, sure, good for you, good
for you well, always a pleasure hearing from you. I'm
glad you had a happy Thanksgiving. And let's talk next Saturday. Okay,
have a good one, all right, Dick, good good talking
with you as always, Dick from Dayton. Quick break, we
come back. Phone lines are open for you. Eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Coming up at
the top of the hour, Rita Hikenfeld will be with us.
(32:05):
We'll talk about her recipe that she has going on here.
We'll ask her if she has any collared greens recipes,
and we're gonna talk about holiday spices and how you
should be actually using them a year round because they're
so good for you. There at the bottom of the hour,
Ron Roth is the yarbor duck and hobby meterologists. We'll
find out about the weather, and we'll also talk about trees.
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Speaker 1 (34:17):
We are talking yarding at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five point five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy. Hey, you know we're talking about
of course, we had the cold weather that's moved in
here and kind of nasty weather all around the country
over the next few days, maybe even Tuesday a little
bit harder. I don't know, we'll see what happens. But
(34:38):
as this moves through, a couple things that you still
want to get outside and take care of, and one
of which that I don't know that I've ever mentioned
this before this time of the year. It usually comes
up in the spring, late spring and summertime, and especially
during the summertime where it's hot and dry and everything's baking,
(34:58):
especially the mults that you have, especially if it's a
really fine shredded hardwood mulch, it has a tendency to
get wet. Then the sun hits on it, bakes on it,
and then it turns into a pie crust. You know,
it's just like a roof over the top of your plants,
and then when it rains, that just rolls right off
the top and out to the outside. So I have
(35:20):
always suggested during that time of the year to get
out your garden weasel, because this is the only time
the weasel really works that's hiding up in your attic
or your garage somewhere, and you rake that run out
across the top of your mulch and break that up.
I call it the krusties, all right. It gets real
crusty on the top, so that garden weasel that you
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can't use it for anything else because it doesn't work
in clay soils. That is one thing that really does
a nice job to break that up. Well, I noticed
about ten days ago as I was out and about
that folks that have the finer shredded hardwood mult for
some reason was getting very crusty as well. I would
step on it and it was pretty hard. So I
(36:04):
would suggest you probably get out there now. Obviously, if
it's frozen right now or it's very cold, not gonna
it's gonna be crusty anyway. But if it's not frozen
and you get out there and you get on it
and you tell it's very crusty, you need to break
that up before we go into the winter season so
that the rain and snow can penetrate down through that
mulch and obviously be absorbed down into the soil to
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help one of the plants that are underneath that mulch.
So you know, I've always recommended to you know, getting
rid of those crusties in the summertime, but I'm also
now seeing where it does happen in the fall as well,
especially staying warmer and drier in the fall season. And
again that's another reason why the more coarse bark is
(36:50):
becoming more and more recommended, because it's a little more poorous,
it doesn't crust up like that, it allows the soil
to breathe a little bit better. It'll water penetration done
down through that. And whether we're talking fresh chips, whether
we're talking shredded hardwood, and of course the pine barks
are obviously they're open so they don't crust up. Pine
(37:13):
straw doesn't get crusty. So you know, if you do
have and like I say, most of the time it's
the really fine shredded hardwood that does that, you might
want to consider going to a little bit more coarse hardwood.
You'll still get the color out of it and then look,
but something a little more coarse, I think your plants
will enjoy it a lot more than they're really fine stuff.
(37:34):
And then fine stuff looks nice, easy to work with
but long term can be maybe not so recommended. And
by the way, talk about winter mulching. We typically wait
to do our final maulching once the ground does get
fairly cold down into the thirties and maybe even frozen
a little bit. We mulch on top of that and
keep it like that over the winter time. This will
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be a great example. They're find time for you to
be out and looking to do that needed around your
yard and garden for that final mulching. And I also
while you're out and about doing that, if you have
smaller trees and they are not protected with a tree
trunk protector to protect them against it from the buck
rubs over the wintertime, and we're talking a sleeves that
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fits from the ground up to the bottom branch, all right,
you need to put that on there. If you have
smaller trees that have really smooth bark, like red maples
for instance, and they have a really smooth bark, and
maybe say, well, don't have any deer in my area,
well that's fine, put the protector on there. Anyway, Why
would I do that run because of two reasons. One
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is where it touches the ground, all right, it protects
the base of that plant from being chewed on by rabbits,
voles and mice and they'll chew on that bark over
the wintertime and do a number on the bottom of
those but also protect from a buck rub if one
would come through the area. But it also protects against
frost crack. And many of you probably have experienced this
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where you've got a smooth, thin skinned barked tree younger
in the springtime, you go out and there's a crack
right down the side of the tree, not a buck
rub or anything, it's just a crack and it's like
what in the heck, And it's usually on the south
southwest side of the tree. Well, the bottom short story is,
I'm not going to go through the whole explanation, but
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the cells are frozen. The sun hit said, they've popped,
they explode and the bark splits. That doesn't typically kill
the tree, but it does create this this split which
then we'll seal over eventually. But you know you don't
want that to happen. So putting the tree trunk protectors
on there not only protected from buck rubs and from
critters chewing at the base of the tree, but it
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also keeps helps to protect protect against frost crack or
suncrack over the wintertime, So both of them. There's several
reasons for doing that, and keep that one in mind.
And by the way, you have fruit trees or whatever,
and you've got mault around the base of those fruit
trees or any tree, sure the mulch is away from
the tree, so it looks like a donut. And make
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sure you put protectors on those fruit trees as well,
because those critters love to chew on fruit tree bark,
so protect those as well. John in Kentucky, John, good morning,
Good morning, Ron.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I'm good, serving yourself.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I'm doing great, Thank you good. So I'll tell you
why I'm calling. I have some anchorage over in northern Kentucky,
and before the Emerald ash boar, it was pretty full
of ash trees, which obviously they're all gone, but actually
they're not all gone. That's what I was calling about.
I literally have hundreds of little baby ash trees sprowning
(40:40):
up right. And I have no idea if there's you know,
like a parent or are these seeds bible for that
many years?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, or anyway, two things. And answered your question, yes,
they can be and so you will get ash. And
we're seeing that now where ash are either coming back
up from seeds that were dropped and they'll remain viable
for several years and then finally start to sprout. And
number two, we're actually getting you know, trees that had
the tops had died fell over and then they're starting
(41:14):
to sucker back up from the roots or from around
the trunk at the base of the tree. So they're
actually regrowing from that as well. So, yeah, they will
regrow when we are seeing that. The problem is the
emeral dashboard is still here. So even though populations are
way lower than they used to be when we had
all the ash trees, they're still here. And you know,
(41:36):
if you think ahead over time, as those trees start
to get two inch calipers. So I would I'm guessing,
but I would imagine this is going to happen, We'll
see a resurgence in the Emerald dashboar again.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Yeah, okay, I was wondering. I was I trying to
bushog around them, but I wonder if I'm wasting my part.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Nope, I let them continue to grow, let them go
for it, let them reforce that I wouldn't I wouldn't
waste you know, waste our time. As a matter of fact,
we'll throw that out of Ron Roethlis at the bottom
of the next hour, see what his thoughts on doing
around those as well. But that's what we're seeing, and
we you know, they're gonna come back up. But the
Emerald ashboard is still out there. Lower populations treatment of
(42:16):
the ash trees. You may back off a little bit
more than what timing wise, what you used to do,
and kind of monitor them on a regular basis, but
it's still out there and it's still going after ash
trees and that's the only thing that it goes after.
We'll throw that at Ron at the bottom of the
hour and see what he has to say. All right,
take a quick break. Coming up next, Rita Hikenfeld here
in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
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