November 29, 2025 • 43 mins
# The Yard Boy's Winter Garden Wisdom
Settle in for an insightful journey through winter garden preparation with Ron Wilson, your personal "yard boy." In this episode, Ron tackles essential seasonal tasks from protecting trees against winter damage to deterring hungry wildlife from your prized plants. Whether you're a seasoned gardener or just looking to keep your landscape thriving through the cold months, Ron's practical advice will help you prepare for whatever winter brings.
Ron shares his expertise on protecting thin-barked trees from frost damage and critter attacks, emphasizing the importance of proper trunk guards and mulching techniques. You'll learn about innovative natural repellents including wool pellets with lanolin that research shows outperforms many commercial options for keeping deer at bay.
**Timestamps and Key Takeaways:**
- 3:45 - Tree protection strategies: trunk guards and proper mulching techniques
- 8:20 - Effective deer and critter repellents, including the surprising effectiveness of wool pellets
- 15:30 - Overwintering arborvitae and troubleshooting common issues
- 22:15 - Growing fig trees in containers and winterizing techniques
- 35:40 - Christmas tree selection and care tips for maximum freshness
- 42:30 - Using sheep wool as a garden amendment for moisture retention
From fig tree overwintering to Christmas tree selection, this episode is packed with seasonal wisdom to help your garden thrive. Ron even shares insights about innovative gardening products like sheep wool amendments that not only improve soil quality but also help repel pests naturally.
Ready to make the most of your yard even as temperatures drop? Tune in to learn how small efforts now can protect your garden investment and set you up for success in the spring!
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Our toll free number eight hundred and eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am run Wilson,
your personal yard boy, talking about yard ning on this
Saturday after Thanksgiving. Lots of football games on today.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
If cold weather has moved in, Uh, don't let that
deter you as far as outside, you know, as long
as the ground's not froz and frozen, you know, a
little bit on the top, maybe you can continue to plant.
I've got a few things I still need to get
finished planting, clean up, things like that. I did mention
in the last hour. Making sure that you get the
(01:12):
If you have trunk covers you need to put on
for deer protection, for frost protection causing the skin thin,
smooth thin, smaller trees to crack over the winter. Get
those protectors on there. Also protecting the bottom of the
tree from critters chewing on them like mice and voles
and rabbits. And make sure the mulch is pulled away
(01:34):
from the trunk of the tree should look like a doughnut,
especially if you have fruit trees. Same way. They love
to chew on fruit trees, so make sure you've got
those all nice and protected. Now, if you've got deer
and other critters. You know, there are repellants available out
there that can be applied to help, but I always say,
don't count on those repellants as a sure fix to
(01:58):
keep critters away from your prized plants. They can help,
they can help get them to move on, There's no
doubt about it. I think it's a good addition to
physical barriers. Chicken wire, poultry fencing around the trees around
your favorite plants, Nylon netting laying over the plants over
the wintertime, anchored down so that the deer can't get
(02:19):
in and chew on those plants, you know, those types
of things. And then in addition to that, use your repellance,
your deer scram you're a liquid fence, you know, the
deer guard roping, you know, repels all any of those
that you use on a regular basis. Mill organite sprinkled
around the base of trees. It's not labeled as a
(02:40):
deer repellent, but does a pretty decent job helping to repel.
And don't forget two more that we're going to add
into this mix. One is we've talked about how they're
now using wool as a soil amendment. Wool from yeah,
from the sheep making wool pellets as a soil amendment,
but the lanolin that's in that those wool pellets or
(03:01):
an actual wool that's being used as well, acts as
a deer repellent. Read a couple researches this year with
some fruit growers that were looking at different repellents and
how long they lasted to keep the deer away from
their orchards, and a lot of them were finding that
the deer repellents that it contained landline, including using the
(03:24):
wool pellets or the or actual wool, was lasting the
longest of all of them out there. It has to
be reapplied on a regular basis, but lasting the longest.
So if you have a need for critter repellents, you'd
make sure those are in place now. And remember, don't
just put your repellents in that around the individual plants
you're trying to protect, go out on the edges of
(03:45):
the property, because if you do that and you work
it out to the edges, hopefully those critters will pick
that scent up out there and continue to move on
to your neighbor's yard and stay out of yours. So
you start from the outside and work your way in,
and then of course the final thing would be their
physical barrier. That's your only somewhat sure protection against these critters.
(04:08):
But make sure you've got your critter repellents in place.
Make sure you've got replacements to replace that with it
another thirty sixty days middle of the winter, go back
and replace it again. Uh, you know, and to get
yourself through the winner. But get those in place right now. Please,
before we go too much further along eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five to Alabama, we go,
(04:30):
roll tide, roll tid. How you doing, buddy, I'm great
in yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm doing well. It's about forty forty degrees walking the
dogs talking. Here's how does the world get even better?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, it's eighteen here, so you have you have to
you have to put another layer coach, and now it's
up to twenty three. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Oh okay, so I've got a I got a snake.
I got a snake, and stay in ron Rosses is Alabama. Fan.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think you may be wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't know. Yeah, A lot of those guys up north,
they like to keep it inside of them. They're really
deep down on Alla. I like that guy. He's the
good guy.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh yeah he is. And I tell you what, I
hope that the snow does hold off. I hate that
to be a factor in this game today. Let these
kids play and show their talents, and as soon as
the game's over, let it snow. But I hope the
weather's not the factor today.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, I want you to make sure you let Buggy
Joe know that I'm an Ohio State fan today because
we need you. We need you to beat Michigan.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yes, yes, we do.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That will help us in the in the rankings, in
the playoff picture.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
That's right, that's right. While you're still in there. You know,
I texted you a couple of weeks ago to make
sure you were still alive.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, I remember several years ago when I when out
of them I got beat. I remember Ron Roths asking
you next weekend if Harold is still alive and them, Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Anbody heard from him. I said the same thing.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You're looking forward to your game?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yep? Who do you?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I've got to I've got to you.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Did you guys play already yesterday? You played it?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Play tonight night at six thirty on AB six.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Okay, got it seven.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Thirty year time. When we play in all of.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Them, I'll be watching good good, good.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Got got a garden question. I planted twelve hour, but
by the six years ago, uh, three years in I
had two of them, they died and I replaced them.
And now the exact same trees in the same spot.
They one is completely dead and one of them one
(06:46):
half of it is dead. So do you have a
soil restue? What do you think that is the same
same place? Three?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, it's funny. With our provieting we talk about seriously,
we talk about this a lot because you planning a
heade of our proviety of ten or twelve. And the
question is, and to answer your question, they're very sensitive
to moisture in the soil, and you know, if they
dry out at all for any length of time, some
are affected more than others. And even within that hedgerow,
(07:15):
we'll see one die there and one die over there,
and go back and replace them, and you still see
those two plants struggle, and so you know it's we know.
Bottom line is it's typically a moisture issue, not a
soil issue, other than the fact, you know, drainings could change.
But it's not that's typically not it. It's just it's
a moisture thing. So how to keep them evenly moist
(07:37):
And you got to stick with them. And I love
arborviety and I highly recommend them, but man, you get
into any kind of a drought situation and one or
two of them will inevitably die out. The other one
is still kind of hang in there, but they root
it in better than the other one too. That's a
bottom line. So you just got to stick with them.
But ninety percent, I would say, easily herold ninety percent
(07:58):
of the time. It is as they moisture in the
soil issue. When it comes to the arbor viting.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I also remember when I planted them, I had a
bag of that Coast of Name soil and I used
that in both holes.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But don't usually put the same soil back in the hole.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, don't ever remove that old soil and take it
away and put in. And I love Coast to Main products.
That's an outstanding product, but use that as an amendment,
not as your soil substitute. That makes it even worse.
It can actually make it even worse by just you know,
because a lot of folks take well, I'll just take
all that out and I'll put nice new bag soil
in there, and manness, thing will get off a lot
(08:42):
of times. That makes it even worse, and they don't
get off to a real good start. So use it
as an amendment and go from there. By the way,
I when I ask you the other day about your
your Alba Mater, is that northern nor They were in
the parade, they were in Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
They sure work. We were very proud of the pride
of Dixon.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, but I think Carold went there.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I did.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm an eighty one graduate, now, ron I had. I
crayned four years of college into five.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I did. I did the same to.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That, and I had a you know why, I had
a really good time doing it. I'll say that I
graduated with very good social skills.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm joking up. I'm laughing so hard here.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That's a great little school. I was. I was up
there last Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
We The sad thing is the stadium. We just built
a new stadium on campus. And the stadium we played
in since the since the twenties. Played our last game
there last Saturday, and uh, but we we just built
a new on campus stadium about thirty thousand people. So
we played Division one double A.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Let me let me get it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I was there, we were Division two.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Let me guess. The name of the stadium is Hudson Stadium.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No, sir, I didn't give up. I did not give
them that much money.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh okay, Well I figure they do that just because
it was you.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh no, no, no, I'm not that popular. I'm not
that popular. Hey, go ahead, you have good Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Okay? Cool, All right, listen, go let you guys go
roll tied today. And I hate to say it, but
go bucks, go bucks, roll time. Send Buggy Joe an
email that I'm an Ohio State fan until about four thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I will text him during the break, a buddy take here.
All right, here, good talking with you. Let's take a
quick break. We come back, Sarah, stick with us. You're
coming up next. Phone lines are open for you at
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Speaker 1 (13:34):
Talking to you Ardening at eight hundred and eight two
three eight two five five. Back to the gardening phone ies.
We shall go, Sarah and Akron.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Good morning, good morning, go box.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Go box, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah yeah, Well, I have two fig plants that I
got early this summer Chicago, hardy and brown Turkey. And
when the temperatures they are in pots, doing really well
all summer long. When the temperature got around fifty, I
brought him into an unheated round forty five degree, very
(14:06):
sunny spot where they were doing okay. But all of
a sudden, or maybe gradually, I'm not sure, the leaves
started turning yellow with some black spots. Now the leaves
are falling off. There's no evidence of bugs. When I
brought them in, I backed off on the water watering them.
When they were moderately dry. I expected some decline, but
(14:31):
it was time to call Ron.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Have you done this before?
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Never?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay? With the fig trees, you know, really, besides the figenomenal,
which is a dwarf and can be grown inside as
a houseplant, they're better off put in a garage, unheated garage,
unheated shed, someplace like that, and let them just go
dorm it, let them lose the leaves. Yeah, and let
(14:58):
them just stop. As a matter of fact, we're when
I did contain. I did them for years where I
put it got no sunlight whatsoever. It stayed, you know,
it didn't let it get below about probably twenty nine
degrees was the coldest it ever got in that and
it's just dark. And in the springtime, you can watch
all of a sudden the buds start to swell a
little bit. You move them back outside and let them
(15:20):
come back to life as they normally would.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay, have I done too much damage?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Heck no. As a matter of fact, all they're they're
shutting down now. Now the buds aren't swelling or anything.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Right, Well, there's one or two, but uh, they were
probably on there before I brought them in, and they're
just you know, they haven't done anything since.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
So if you go to a I was gonna say,
if you go to an unheated garage, slide them out
there and and you know, if you lose a butt
or two on the stem, it's okay and it's not
going to cause any problems. But let let's make sure
they shut down. And then watering. I usually watered about
once a month, just to make sure it had a
little bit of moisture in there, and then that's it.
(16:03):
Just let it sit there, all right.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What about those black spots.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If you if you look at if you look outside,
even with like hydranges, especially in the fall, they look
really nasty and they'll start to get little leaf spots
on them even though they're getting color. And I get
a lot of emails saying, boy might get in some
kind of a disease. Sometimes you can get a little
bit of leaf spot. But no, it's all a part
of it, you know, shutting down. Nothing to worry about. Uh,
(16:33):
just like I said, scoot them outside, are into that
unheated garage and water once a month, and you got
it made. And then you got to promise me you'll
tell me how they come out next spring.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Oh you know I will, Yes, I will, Okay, after
we win today.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
There you go. Thank you so much, Thank you, Sarah.
Good talking with you. And you're right. Go Bucks and
again figs. You know what that the brown turkey was
kind of the heartiest one for our area. And it's
a zone six Zone seven. And then it came along
with Chicago Harty and Chicago Hardy. I think is listed.
It was a six for sure, and maybe a five.
(17:11):
But I just say go ahead and protect them anyway,
just to make sure, and you're going to cut them
back in the spring anyway. But I always did them
for years, and I did the all different types of
figs in containers, and it's easy to overwinter because you
just let them go dorm and put them inside like
I said talking earlier, and bring them back out in
the springtime. But the one called Pigenomenal, which came out
(17:32):
about three or four years ago, it's a dwarf three
feet by three feet or so, and you'll get two
crops off of it. Sometimes when you take it in
the house, you'll get three crops out of it. Not
a lot. You'll get four or five figs on it.
But it in a really really sunny area, maybe even
supplemented with grow lights, they'll tolerate that. And I have
(17:53):
not done one in the house. I've just seen it.
No people have done it, and it does work. There's
another one. I think it's just a negro if I'm
not mistaken, but it's a dwarf also and it's the
same way, and that was developed many years ago, and
I think, oh my gosh Logis used to sell it
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all the time as both an indoor plant and an
outdoor plant as well, moving inside in the winter outside
in the summer. But nevertheless, you can grow any of
those outside as long as you protect them over the wintertime.
And Byron from Logis put a tipped sheet together on
he grew all the selections in Connecticut outdoors. It's just
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a matter of in the you know, before they as
they go dormant, tying them up, wrapping them with insulation,
rapping them with plastic, rabbing them with covering on the outside,
mulching the base all right. And then also he always
likes to put them on the south side of the
house where they may get a little reflection from the home,
a little bit more warmth. But he was able to
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overwinter any species, any type of selection a fig outside
in Connecticut using that winter rising process. So you can
do that if they're in ground all right, or if
they're in the containers, it's as simple as moving them
inside and out. Eventually they get so big it's hard
to do that. But what a great looking plant, whether
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you got figs or not, if you've got one on
your patio or outside in the landscape in a container
because the leaves are so gorgeous and the strip branching
structure is so gorgeous, everybody will ask what it is.
And then, of course if you're able to get three
or four dozen of figs off of it at the
end of the season. If you've never tasted a fresh fig,
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it is phenomenal and getting the hang of how to
pick them when they're right, because I have picked them
when they're not ripe and they're too ripe. But when
you get them just right, they are absolutely phenomenal. So
if you've never grown a fig before next year, put
that on your bucket list for growing in a container
or the ground, depending on the selection and what you
(19:58):
want to do over the wintertime. But they can be
a lot of fun, especially in containers. Quick break. We
come back still taking your calls at eight hundred eight
two three eighty two five five. Gary Salvon also coming
up at the top of the next hour. Little home
improvement here in the garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (21:42):
It like a pro. Welcome Back you're in the garden
with Ron Wilson again that toll free number eight hundred
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eight two three eight two five five. Don't forget our website.
It's Ron Wilson online dot com. This week we have
Rita's recipe, which is leftover ham or turkey. Don't make
soup out of it, don't make sandwiches out of it,
make a salad out of it, a ham or turkey
cop salad. But what's unique about this one is that
she gives you two different types of dressings that you
(22:28):
can make. Yes, make not open the jar, but make.
One is a ranch dressing that's a good for you
rant stressing made out of yogurt and buttermilk in the
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the first time around and you take the spoon to
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just keep eating it rather than just tasting it to
make sure it's good. So you might want to make
two batches just to make sure. But anyway, that recipe
is on our website at Rhyme Wilson online dot com.
Also some tips as far as considering that live Christmas tree. Boy,
(23:11):
a lot of people were out yesterday. Buy and cut
Christmas tree is good for you. I expected the early
rush because they're three weeks out from Christmas. So yeah,
if you're thinking about doing the live cut tree or
a live tree with the roots on the bottom, well
I wouldn't hesitate. I'd get out this weekend or as
soon as you can. Of course, we've got some weather
(23:32):
moving in on Tuesday, so you might want to take
advantage of today or tomorrow and get out there and
at least get the tree, get it sleeved up, bring
it home, and you can just set it somewhere in
the shade outside until you're ready to put it up
inside the home. And then, of course, put that fresh
cut on the butt before you put it in the water,
not until you're ready to put it in the water.
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Don't make that fresh cut. It'll reseal over and within
a two hour period. And then once you put water
in there, keep looking at the water for the next
two or three days because that tree will typically suck
up a ton the first two or three or four days,
then a science seems to slow down and they just
don't ever let it dry out, just like a vase
of flowers treated exactly the same way. And as far
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as preservative is in the water, you know, research has
been done with all the the preservatives that you can buy,
adding sugar, adding bleach, outing alcohol, the aspirins, hot water
versus cold water. The bottom line was this, if it
works for you, use it, But the bottom line is
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water keeping a fresh cut and water in that stand
at all times. I still use hot water when I
pour it in there. I just I think it does
a better job. But again they were saying, didn't see
any major differences, but the key being water. And if
you get your own home remedy or you buy the
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immertually made the additive, go for it. That's fine. But
water is absolutely the key. If you want to add
a little extra protection to any fresh greens or cut tree,
or the live baldon burlb tree that you have in
your house, look at wilt stop or wilt proof, both
basically the same product. It's a pine resin that's water soluble.
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You mix it up with water and you spray it
on the needles and on the stems, and when it
dries it gives it a very glossy look. But it
helps us seal moisture inside those needles and inside those stems,
so you know, it does add you know, a little
bit of more shelf life inside for those fresh greens.
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So keep that in mind. Wilt stop and will proof.
You can also use it when you're winter rising your
roses to spray on the canes Japanese maples to help
seal moisture in over the wintertime. And of course those
evergreens that seem to be out in the windy areas
that you know might cast some of that extra wind.
It helps to cut back on moisture loss in the
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needles and broad leaf weeds leaves weeds at the same time,
so be sure and keep that in mind. Larry and Wooster,
good morning.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Hey, how's you going wrong?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Larry?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I'm doing great yourself?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Oh my bad? Good hopic Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Happy Thanksgiving to you, sir.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah, I just want to let you know I think
using that sheep ball in the tomatoes this year. Yes,
that's the ticket for me. Yeah, I worked out with
a lot of tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Excellent.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Actually more, actually more than I needed, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They Yeah, that's some of the first research they did
with that when they first started using it here in
the United States was on tomatoes, and they found that
not only was the production upped, but they felt they
even ripened a little bit quicker using that, So both
in containers and in the ground. So it's a little
bit expensive, but man, I'm with you. I think this
(26:57):
is an up and coming addition to vegetable gardening.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Yeah, I think it would be too, I think. Yeah,
in containers or raised Yeah, that's that's the ticket.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I don't know about any other other vegetables, but yeah,
as far as holding the water or the moisture concept, yeah,
that worked out swell so super well.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm glad you reported in on let us know about that.
Appreciate it, all right, take care of you, all right,
you too. And you know, one of the folks that
we talked to, who is the sheep rancher that first
started using that and many many many years ago, had
tried it in his wife's hanging baskets that he had
used that in there and they were gone on vacation,
(27:43):
usually came back and the baskets were all dried up
and they came back and the baskets were in good shape.
And that's where they started experimenting with that. And they've
been doing it. They've been using the sheep wool in
Europe and Germany and for years, for years and years
and years. But now they've got a way that you
can use it twice. Either way they pelletize it so
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it's easy to add in or you can actually buy
the sheep wool to use as a mulch on top.
But yeah, it's getting great. That's why I've I tell
you we started talking about it last year. I think
it's going to take a little while for it to get,
you know, out there, to get the word spreading more
and more. Just like talking with that young man about
he was very successful with it getting the word out there.
(28:26):
Costs are a little bit more expensive, but it's it
looks like it's paying off in the long run and
showing a good good job as far as some critter repellent,
including deer with that landlin in there. So I think
this is an up and coming product. I'll tell you
one more that I didn't mention this morning we were
talking about that is feather meal. Good friend of mine
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in Cleveland area, they have a garden center and they
bag that up and sell that as a repellent and
feather meal. I've did a lot of researches on and
showing real good results as a deer repellent also, and
that is feather meal which is a good all natural
fertilizer as well. But this sheep wool and the wool
(29:12):
ats and all that, I think it's an up and
coming all natural, all organic, great way to resource and
reuse that unused wool from sharing all those sheep. I
think it's a great idea. Before we take a break
to go to Cleveland, talk to Jeff. Jeff, good morning,
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Good question for you have a magnolia tree that's probably
about thirty feet high, but it's got two main trunks
and in the middle is this crotch area that is
always filling up with water and got dirt in there.
What do I do with that?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Really, there's not a lot you can do because with
that double trunk, it's always going to be pulling all right. Now,
you can and i'd have to see the trunks and all,
but you could possibly get an arburst to come out,
and what they will do. In some cases, they'll actually
cable tree branches together so they help support each other,
so they don't you know, do that or don't have
(30:08):
a less tendency to split or fall off the tree.
So that if there are two trunks that they could
actually drill through, do turnbuckles in there, and actually cable
them together, they could do that to help help slow
down the pull apart as far as you know, it's
splitting or opening up, but it's always going to have
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that right in that center piece. And you know, we've
looked at the spray foam. You know, they've looked at
sealing it over really not an issue because it moves
too much for any of that to work. So without
seeing it, and again I think of having a certified
arbist on hand will really help you out. I would
guess the first thing I'd be looking at is cabling
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those two together to help, let you know, reduce the
amount of pulling apart and then take it from there,
and hopefully by doing that it may actually seal over
a little bit more by not being split all the time.
But I'd have somebody take a look at it just
to be sure. If you don't want to have somebody
come out and look at it. Send me a couple
of pictures of it, of where it's splitting the overall
(31:10):
tree itself, and I'll give you some suggestions by looking
at the picture if you want to do that.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Okay, yeah, I'll do that, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
All right, Jeff, good talking with you. Appreciate the call.
Let's take a little break. Can we come back. We're
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Speaker 1 (33:06):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again.
Don't forget our website, Ron Wilson online dot com. And also,
I forgot to tell you what the plant pick of
the week was. It's the pond Setia. It's the pond
setia and I forgot to mention it. So if you
go to our website, I've got how to take care
of him. I've got the history there in the old
nine Yards. But it's the second most recognized holiday plant
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and used to be the number one potted plant just
grown in a container. Number one potted plant grown in
the United States. More of these were grown at one
time because they used them both for landscape specimen plants
and the holidays than any other plant in a container.
The pond setia. Now it's time for the man, the myth,
the legend. He is the most listened to home improveman
(33:50):
show host in the entire and I'm talking the entire
solar system ladies and gentlemen. The one the only website,
Garysullivan online dot com. Gary on them. It's a weed,
well it can it can be in southern it's a
weed Southern countries.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
It's a weed.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Grows everywhere.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
It's a weed.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Looks nice though. Flame leaf they call it in Central
America flame leaf, flame leaf, flame leaf.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
I got some flame leaf in my yard.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know, my weed. My in laws when they lived
in Florida had two or three of them, really nice
ones on the corners of their house that were like,
oh yeah, eight feet tall, and those things would color up,
you know, and they were nice.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
But they considered a weed. In Mexico.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, it really grows everywhere, but yeah, they used them
as in the landscape and the specimen plants.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
During the whole year. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Those are ever green. Yeah, they keep the green all
the time, and then they'll kind of redding up a
little bit or whatever. The color is the bracts, you know,
not as bright as what you see in the in
the stores.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
But what in the stores this time you're in all seriousness.
They're they're beautiful. I tire them by the end of January, though,
if I put them in my house, But they are,
they're beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, most people do by the It's it's one of
those things that can give you good color all winter,
even if they lose all the green leaves. Those bracts
stay on there all winter long. But most people get
tired of it. Yeah, I uh, you know. Usually I
think of you sometime during the week. Obviously Twofold won
the hollow Santas.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
But did you get your shit?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
No, I haven't. I saw them though at Krog and
I was in a hurry and I didn't get any.
But anyway, I'll get them. I'll get them plenty of
and I have the buffalo trace there you go. I
was looking at I was on YouTube the other day
and I was zipping through some of those short things,
the little video things. Somebody had their cell phone going
(35:52):
and they went in their attic and they just went,
Oh my god, you've got to be kidding me. Don't
tell me they actually did no way, Oh my.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
What they do? What they do?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
They used that spray foam uh huh in the attic. Yeah,
I can't do that? Can you?
Speaker 7 (36:10):
What?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
What what they to insulate?
Speaker 7 (36:12):
You?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
To insulate an area?
Speaker 6 (36:14):
I mean not an area, there's a there's it.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Was like a little section off the rig and I
guess he had said something to somebody and they went
up there and sprayed that spray foam. Yeah, and it
just kind of bubbled up and was hard around his
two before you.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
When people say can I paint that? You know what
I say? I say, you can do whatever you want
to do. That' mean it's right, but you can do whatever.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You want to do.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Can you use spray phem and make sure you do
whatever you want to do. I don't know what they'd
be doing. We we the industry uses spray foam in
attics with a trend that we're seeing, especially in the southeast,
but it's moving north called whole house encapsulation, especially if
you have an air handler in an attic, they will
literally spray from the bottom, you know, the the roof
(37:00):
of the attic, which would be the bottom of the roof.
They would encapsulate that in foam. They would encapsulate the
sides and home. They would eliminate ventilation, which is interesting
right since we just started doing that in the late seventies,
And they will just let the air, the warm air
from the house filter up into the attic and it'll
(37:20):
become a conditioned space in the summertime. It's a little
easier on the air handler, et cetera, et cetera. So
we're seeing that, but so I don't know how. And
it's different foam than you get in the expandable foam
that you get in a can at the hardware store.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, this, and I get the and I knew you
were talking about how they spray up in the bottom
of the roof and all that, right, but not at
the bottom that would be the regular insulation. Instead of
spraying the top part, they sprayed the ball.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
They sprayed the bottom with foam. Well, it goes back
back kind of what I said, you can do it.
I don't know how much good it's going to do
in the insulation that's in that can. You gotta be
really careful because that eurothane based foam insulation and a can.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Expands about seven times. There are lower expansions for window
and door foam.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
You gotta be really careful with that. Though you get
a seven times expansion on foam, you could have a
real mess. And I don't know what the R value
is it eliminate drafts for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You know we would never have to redo it, would you.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Well, I don't know, I mean, what is it?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I mean it was horrible because it was big balls
and yeah, and somebody really screwed it up big time.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
I think the reaction with the person with a camera
was correct.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
You just kept that Oh my god, oh my, oh
what did they do? You've got to be kidding me,
oh my, oh my god, what am I going to?
You know, it was for real too.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
It wasn't hard to should have been able to cut
through that.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It was thick Gary. Yeah, there were some areas that
was twenty four inches deep. Oh my, these big bubbles
came up. Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
Well, a couple of weeks ago round I was telling
people what a good idea in all seriousness. If you
can't get up in your attic, get somebody to get
up in the attic and see what's going on, because
you know, you could find dead birds, You could find
where animals have been nesting. You find where insulation is
blown around, you can find where insulation is covered up
(39:25):
the soft adventing, and you really don't have any good
ventilation in the attic. I mean you can find mold,
you can find you know, water stains. I mean, there's
a lot of information up there, and I know you
don't want to search out problems, but you know, once
a year, get have somebody get up there and just
(39:46):
do a quick attic inspection.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Not a bad idea at all, But do you.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Think a lot of folks just go like, well, if
I don't see it, there's nothing wrong, nothing wrong.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
I like that attitude.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
There's nothing wrong, nothing wrong.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Thing is beautiful, Thing is beautiful. Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Did you have a great Thanksgiving?
Speaker 8 (40:05):
We had a wonderful Thanksgiving, good smoked turkey. And I'm
you've heardon me say over the year, I'm not a
huge turkey lover. It was the best turkey I've ever had.
Good for you and we had a wonderful time. One
of my best thanksgivings, how about you.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, we had a real good one. I didn't have
to do anything I took. I took the snacks, oh
and good and the orders which you always had me do.
We got done. We ate at four point thirty. Yeah,
got done. Everybody kind of chilled out. And the next thing,
you know, everybody said, well were you hitting that? We're
going home early? Blah blah blah, And we never got
him out of there cooler or anything.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Is there right?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah? So I have all these told me to bring him.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Over, sure a little party.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'll drop him off up front. Watched the Bucks game
with me. What yo?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Yeah, what's the deal with this weather? It's like winter?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Could you hear the wind howling through your house?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Could you?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
I do a little tease on Thursday on a morning
show and I was saying, you know, really pay attention.
As hard as the wind's blowing, you'll find where.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Your drafts are. You know, people always say, well, where
can I find I'm losing energy in the winter. Well
you could have found out Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
Yeah, because that wind was what thirty mile an hour
a lot of the day and you could hear it.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
You could you you didn't even have to feel it.
You can. You can find your leaks very quickly.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I did. And
I kept feeling I kept feeling a draft, right, and
I'm like, well, wait a minute, where is that coming from?
Speaker 7 (41:35):
That?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I had the basement door open, So then I closed
the basement door, you know, one of those deals as
I was going up and down in the basement. It's
an unfinished basement, right, But you're right, I was drafted
a little bit drafty in there. But that's a good thing, right.
I don't have housatosis.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
Well you don't have that, that's for sure. You might
have a big energy bill, but you don't have holsatosis.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You go, what are you gonna talk about today?
Speaker 8 (41:54):
We're gonna talk about just what we're talking about, taking
care of the house, seeing if we survived the holidays
and make some pa do some patching.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Some patching, Yeah, all right, do some patching with Gary
Sullivan coming up next. Thanks to all of our callers,
Thanks to our sponsors, Thanks of course, with Danny Gleeson,
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So Danny, Thank you so much for all that you do.
Now do yourself a favor. Still tying. I know the
weather's bet out there, but you can still plant a
tree or two or three. Keep planting those data plants.
Be pollinator, fairly, pay for your worms, get the kids
(42:24):
and dogs involved gardening by all means, have fun, and
make it the best weekend of your life. Go bucks,
see you.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Help so look do it yourself gardener. At one eight
hundred eighty two three talk You're in the Garden with
Ron Wilson, The
Our toll free number eight hundred and eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am run Wilson,
your personal yard boy, talking about yard ning on this
Saturday after Thanksgiving. Lots of football games on today.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
If cold weather has moved in, Uh, don't let that
deter you as far as outside, you know, as long
as the ground's not froz and frozen, you know, a
little bit on the top, maybe you can continue to plant.
I've got a few things I still need to get
finished planting, clean up, things like that. I did mention
in the last hour. Making sure that you get the
(01:12):
If you have trunk covers you need to put on
for deer protection, for frost protection causing the skin thin,
smooth thin, smaller trees to crack over the winter. Get
those protectors on there. Also protecting the bottom of the
tree from critters chewing on them like mice and voles
and rabbits. And make sure the mulch is pulled away
(01:34):
from the trunk of the tree should look like a doughnut,
especially if you have fruit trees. Same way. They love
to chew on fruit trees, so make sure you've got
those all nice and protected. Now, if you've got deer
and other critters. You know, there are repellants available out
there that can be applied to help, but I always say,
don't count on those repellants as a sure fix to
(01:58):
keep critters away from your prized plants. They can help,
they can help get them to move on, There's no
doubt about it. I think it's a good addition to
physical barriers. Chicken wire, poultry fencing around the trees around
your favorite plants, Nylon netting laying over the plants over
the wintertime, anchored down so that the deer can't get
(02:19):
in and chew on those plants, you know, those types
of things. And then in addition to that, use your repellance,
your deer scram you're a liquid fence, you know, the
deer guard roping, you know, repels all any of those
that you use on a regular basis. Mill organite sprinkled
around the base of trees. It's not labeled as a
(02:40):
deer repellent, but does a pretty decent job helping to repel.
And don't forget two more that we're going to add
into this mix. One is we've talked about how they're
now using wool as a soil amendment. Wool from yeah,
from the sheep making wool pellets as a soil amendment,
but the lanolin that's in that those wool pellets or
(03:01):
an actual wool that's being used as well, acts as
a deer repellent. Read a couple researches this year with
some fruit growers that were looking at different repellents and
how long they lasted to keep the deer away from
their orchards, and a lot of them were finding that
the deer repellents that it contained landline, including using the
(03:24):
wool pellets or the or actual wool, was lasting the
longest of all of them out there. It has to
be reapplied on a regular basis, but lasting the longest.
So if you have a need for critter repellents, you'd
make sure those are in place now. And remember, don't
just put your repellents in that around the individual plants
you're trying to protect, go out on the edges of
(03:45):
the property, because if you do that and you work
it out to the edges, hopefully those critters will pick
that scent up out there and continue to move on
to your neighbor's yard and stay out of yours. So
you start from the outside and work your way in,
and then of course the final thing would be their
physical barrier. That's your only somewhat sure protection against these critters.
(04:08):
But make sure you've got your critter repellents in place.
Make sure you've got replacements to replace that with it
another thirty sixty days middle of the winter, go back
and replace it again. Uh, you know, and to get
yourself through the winner. But get those in place right now. Please,
before we go too much further along eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five to Alabama, we go,
(04:30):
roll tide, roll tid. How you doing, buddy, I'm great
in yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm doing well. It's about forty forty degrees walking the
dogs talking. Here's how does the world get even better?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, it's eighteen here, so you have you have to
you have to put another layer coach, and now it's
up to twenty three. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Oh okay, so I've got a I got a snake.
I got a snake, and stay in ron Rosses is Alabama. Fan.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think you may be wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't know. Yeah, A lot of those guys up north,
they like to keep it inside of them. They're really
deep down on Alla. I like that guy. He's the
good guy.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh yeah he is. And I tell you what, I
hope that the snow does hold off. I hate that
to be a factor in this game today. Let these
kids play and show their talents, and as soon as
the game's over, let it snow. But I hope the
weather's not the factor today.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, I want you to make sure you let Buggy
Joe know that I'm an Ohio State fan today because
we need you. We need you to beat Michigan.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yes, yes, we do.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That will help us in the in the rankings, in
the playoff picture.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
That's right, that's right. While you're still in there. You know,
I texted you a couple of weeks ago to make
sure you were still alive.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, I remember several years ago when I when out
of them I got beat. I remember Ron Roths asking
you next weekend if Harold is still alive and them, Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Anbody heard from him. I said the same thing.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You're looking forward to your game?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yep? Who do you?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I've got to I've got to you.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Did you guys play already yesterday? You played it?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Play tonight night at six thirty on AB six.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Okay, got it seven.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Thirty year time. When we play in all of.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Them, I'll be watching good good, good.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Got got a garden question. I planted twelve hour, but
by the six years ago, uh, three years in I
had two of them, they died and I replaced them.
And now the exact same trees in the same spot.
They one is completely dead and one of them one
(06:46):
half of it is dead. So do you have a
soil restue? What do you think that is the same
same place? Three?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, it's funny. With our provieting we talk about seriously,
we talk about this a lot because you planning a
heade of our proviety of ten or twelve. And the
question is, and to answer your question, they're very sensitive
to moisture in the soil, and you know, if they
dry out at all for any length of time, some
are affected more than others. And even within that hedgerow,
(07:15):
we'll see one die there and one die over there,
and go back and replace them, and you still see
those two plants struggle, and so you know it's we know.
Bottom line is it's typically a moisture issue, not a
soil issue, other than the fact, you know, drainings could change.
But it's not that's typically not it. It's just it's
a moisture thing. So how to keep them evenly moist
(07:37):
And you got to stick with them. And I love
arborviety and I highly recommend them, but man, you get
into any kind of a drought situation and one or
two of them will inevitably die out. The other one
is still kind of hang in there, but they root
it in better than the other one too. That's a
bottom line. So you just got to stick with them.
But ninety percent, I would say, easily herold ninety percent
(07:58):
of the time. It is as they moisture in the
soil issue. When it comes to the arbor viting.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I also remember when I planted them, I had a
bag of that Coast of Name soil and I used
that in both holes.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But don't usually put the same soil back in the hole.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, don't ever remove that old soil and take it
away and put in. And I love Coast to Main products.
That's an outstanding product, but use that as an amendment,
not as your soil substitute. That makes it even worse.
It can actually make it even worse by just you know,
because a lot of folks take well, I'll just take
all that out and I'll put nice new bag soil
in there, and manness, thing will get off a lot
(08:42):
of times. That makes it even worse, and they don't
get off to a real good start. So use it
as an amendment and go from there. By the way,
I when I ask you the other day about your
your Alba Mater, is that northern nor They were in
the parade, they were in Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
They sure work. We were very proud of the pride
of Dixon.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, but I think Carold went there.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I did.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm an eighty one graduate, now, ron I had. I
crayned four years of college into five.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I did. I did the same to.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That, and I had a you know why, I had
a really good time doing it. I'll say that I
graduated with very good social skills.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm joking up. I'm laughing so hard here.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That's a great little school. I was. I was up
there last Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
We The sad thing is the stadium. We just built
a new stadium on campus. And the stadium we played
in since the since the twenties. Played our last game
there last Saturday, and uh, but we we just built
a new on campus stadium about thirty thousand people. So
we played Division one double A.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Let me let me get it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I was there, we were Division two.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Let me guess. The name of the stadium is Hudson Stadium.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No, sir, I didn't give up. I did not give
them that much money.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh okay, Well I figure they do that just because
it was you.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh no, no, no, I'm not that popular. I'm not
that popular. Hey, go ahead, you have good Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Okay? Cool, All right, listen, go let you guys go
roll tied today. And I hate to say it, but
go bucks, go bucks, roll time. Send Buggy Joe an
email that I'm an Ohio State fan until about four thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I will text him during the break, a buddy take here.
All right, here, good talking with you. Let's take a
quick break. We come back, Sarah, stick with us. You're
coming up next. Phone lines are open for you at
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Talking to you Ardening at eight hundred and eight two
three eight two five five. Back to the gardening phone ies.
We shall go, Sarah and Akron.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Good morning, good morning, go box.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Go box, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah yeah, Well, I have two fig plants that I
got early this summer Chicago, hardy and brown Turkey. And
when the temperatures they are in pots, doing really well
all summer long. When the temperature got around fifty, I
brought him into an unheated round forty five degree, very
(14:06):
sunny spot where they were doing okay. But all of
a sudden, or maybe gradually, I'm not sure, the leaves
started turning yellow with some black spots. Now the leaves
are falling off. There's no evidence of bugs. When I
brought them in, I backed off on the water watering them.
When they were moderately dry. I expected some decline, but
(14:31):
it was time to call Ron.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Have you done this before?
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Never?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay? With the fig trees, you know, really, besides the figenomenal,
which is a dwarf and can be grown inside as
a houseplant, they're better off put in a garage, unheated garage,
unheated shed, someplace like that, and let them just go
dorm it, let them lose the leaves. Yeah, and let
(14:58):
them just stop. As a matter of fact, we're when
I did contain. I did them for years where I
put it got no sunlight whatsoever. It stayed, you know,
it didn't let it get below about probably twenty nine
degrees was the coldest it ever got in that and
it's just dark. And in the springtime, you can watch
all of a sudden the buds start to swell a
little bit. You move them back outside and let them
(15:20):
come back to life as they normally would.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay, have I done too much damage?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Heck no. As a matter of fact, all they're they're
shutting down now. Now the buds aren't swelling or anything.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Right, Well, there's one or two, but uh, they were
probably on there before I brought them in, and they're
just you know, they haven't done anything since.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
So if you go to a I was gonna say,
if you go to an unheated garage, slide them out
there and and you know, if you lose a butt
or two on the stem, it's okay and it's not
going to cause any problems. But let let's make sure
they shut down. And then watering. I usually watered about
once a month, just to make sure it had a
little bit of moisture in there, and then that's it.
(16:03):
Just let it sit there, all right.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What about those black spots.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If you if you look at if you look outside,
even with like hydranges, especially in the fall, they look
really nasty and they'll start to get little leaf spots
on them even though they're getting color. And I get
a lot of emails saying, boy might get in some
kind of a disease. Sometimes you can get a little
bit of leaf spot. But no, it's all a part
of it, you know, shutting down. Nothing to worry about. Uh,
(16:33):
just like I said, scoot them outside, are into that
unheated garage and water once a month, and you got
it made. And then you got to promise me you'll
tell me how they come out next spring.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Oh you know I will, Yes, I will, Okay, after
we win today.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
There you go. Thank you so much, Thank you, Sarah.
Good talking with you. And you're right. Go Bucks and
again figs. You know what that the brown turkey was
kind of the heartiest one for our area. And it's
a zone six Zone seven. And then it came along
with Chicago Harty and Chicago Hardy. I think is listed.
It was a six for sure, and maybe a five.
(17:11):
But I just say go ahead and protect them anyway,
just to make sure, and you're going to cut them
back in the spring anyway. But I always did them
for years, and I did the all different types of
figs in containers, and it's easy to overwinter because you
just let them go dorm and put them inside like
I said talking earlier, and bring them back out in
the springtime. But the one called Pigenomenal, which came out
(17:32):
about three or four years ago, it's a dwarf three
feet by three feet or so, and you'll get two
crops off of it. Sometimes when you take it in
the house, you'll get three crops out of it. Not
a lot. You'll get four or five figs on it.
But it in a really really sunny area, maybe even
supplemented with grow lights, they'll tolerate that. And I have
(17:53):
not done one in the house. I've just seen it.
No people have done it, and it does work. There's
another one. I think it's just a negro if I'm
not mistaken, but it's a dwarf also and it's the
same way, and that was developed many years ago, and
I think, oh my gosh Logis used to sell it
(18:13):
all the time as both an indoor plant and an
outdoor plant as well, moving inside in the winter outside
in the summer. But nevertheless, you can grow any of
those outside as long as you protect them over the wintertime.
And Byron from Logis put a tipped sheet together on
he grew all the selections in Connecticut outdoors. It's just
(18:35):
a matter of in the you know, before they as
they go dormant, tying them up, wrapping them with insulation,
rapping them with plastic, rabbing them with covering on the outside,
mulching the base all right. And then also he always
likes to put them on the south side of the
house where they may get a little reflection from the home,
a little bit more warmth. But he was able to
(18:57):
overwinter any species, any type of selection a fig outside
in Connecticut using that winter rising process. So you can
do that if they're in ground all right, or if
they're in the containers, it's as simple as moving them
inside and out. Eventually they get so big it's hard
to do that. But what a great looking plant, whether
(19:17):
you got figs or not, if you've got one on
your patio or outside in the landscape in a container
because the leaves are so gorgeous and the strip branching
structure is so gorgeous, everybody will ask what it is.
And then, of course if you're able to get three
or four dozen of figs off of it at the
end of the season. If you've never tasted a fresh fig,
(19:38):
it is phenomenal and getting the hang of how to
pick them when they're right, because I have picked them
when they're not ripe and they're too ripe. But when
you get them just right, they are absolutely phenomenal. So
if you've never grown a fig before next year, put
that on your bucket list for growing in a container
or the ground, depending on the selection and what you
(19:58):
want to do over the wintertime. But they can be
a lot of fun, especially in containers. Quick break. We
come back still taking your calls at eight hundred eight
two three eighty two five five. Gary Salvon also coming
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Speaker 1 (21:42):
It like a pro. Welcome Back you're in the garden
with Ron Wilson again that toll free number eight hundred
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eight two three eight two five five. Don't forget our website.
It's Ron Wilson online dot com. This week we have
Rita's recipe, which is leftover ham or turkey. Don't make
soup out of it, don't make sandwiches out of it,
make a salad out of it, a ham or turkey
cop salad. But what's unique about this one is that
she gives you two different types of dressings that you
(22:28):
can make. Yes, make not open the jar, but make.
One is a ranch dressing that's a good for you
rant stressing made out of yogurt and buttermilk in the
whole nine yards. Or and I suggest you do this
one my mom's blue cheese dressing. Nelly Wilson's blue cheese dressing.
I guarantee you, guarantee you that when you make this
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the first time around and you take the spoon to
final tasting, you have to discipline yourself because you will
just keep eating it rather than just tasting it to
make sure it's good. So you might want to make
two batches just to make sure. But anyway, that recipe
is on our website at Rhyme Wilson online dot com.
Also some tips as far as considering that live Christmas tree. Boy,
(23:11):
a lot of people were out yesterday. Buy and cut
Christmas tree is good for you. I expected the early
rush because they're three weeks out from Christmas. So yeah,
if you're thinking about doing the live cut tree or
a live tree with the roots on the bottom, well
I wouldn't hesitate. I'd get out this weekend or as
soon as you can. Of course, we've got some weather
(23:32):
moving in on Tuesday, so you might want to take
advantage of today or tomorrow and get out there and
at least get the tree, get it sleeved up, bring
it home, and you can just set it somewhere in
the shade outside until you're ready to put it up
inside the home. And then, of course, put that fresh
cut on the butt before you put it in the water,
not until you're ready to put it in the water.
(23:53):
Don't make that fresh cut. It'll reseal over and within
a two hour period. And then once you put water
in there, keep looking at the water for the next
two or three days because that tree will typically suck
up a ton the first two or three or four days,
then a science seems to slow down and they just
don't ever let it dry out, just like a vase
of flowers treated exactly the same way. And as far
(24:17):
as preservative is in the water, you know, research has
been done with all the the preservatives that you can buy,
adding sugar, adding bleach, outing alcohol, the aspirins, hot water
versus cold water. The bottom line was this, if it
works for you, use it, But the bottom line is
(24:39):
water keeping a fresh cut and water in that stand
at all times. I still use hot water when I
pour it in there. I just I think it does
a better job. But again they were saying, didn't see
any major differences, but the key being water. And if
you get your own home remedy or you buy the
(25:00):
immertually made the additive, go for it. That's fine. But
water is absolutely the key. If you want to add
a little extra protection to any fresh greens or cut tree,
or the live baldon burlb tree that you have in
your house, look at wilt stop or wilt proof, both
basically the same product. It's a pine resin that's water soluble.
(25:24):
You mix it up with water and you spray it
on the needles and on the stems, and when it
dries it gives it a very glossy look. But it
helps us seal moisture inside those needles and inside those stems,
so you know, it does add you know, a little
bit of more shelf life inside for those fresh greens.
(25:45):
So keep that in mind. Wilt stop and will proof.
You can also use it when you're winter rising your
roses to spray on the canes Japanese maples to help
seal moisture in over the wintertime. And of course those
evergreens that seem to be out in the windy areas
that you know might cast some of that extra wind.
It helps to cut back on moisture loss in the
(26:05):
needles and broad leaf weeds leaves weeds at the same time,
so be sure and keep that in mind. Larry and Wooster,
good morning.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Hey, how's you going wrong?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Larry?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I'm doing great yourself?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Oh my bad? Good hopic Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Happy Thanksgiving to you, sir.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah, I just want to let you know I think
using that sheep ball in the tomatoes this year. Yes,
that's the ticket for me. Yeah, I worked out with
a lot of tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Excellent.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Actually more, actually more than I needed, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They Yeah, that's some of the first research they did
with that when they first started using it here in
the United States was on tomatoes, and they found that
not only was the production upped, but they felt they
even ripened a little bit quicker using that, So both
in containers and in the ground. So it's a little
bit expensive, but man, I'm with you. I think this
(26:57):
is an up and coming addition to vegetable gardening.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Yeah, I think it would be too, I think. Yeah,
in containers or raised Yeah, that's that's the ticket.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I don't know about any other other vegetables, but yeah,
as far as holding the water or the moisture concept, yeah,
that worked out swell so super well.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm glad you reported in on let us know about that.
Appreciate it, all right, take care of you, all right,
you too. And you know, one of the folks that
we talked to, who is the sheep rancher that first
started using that and many many many years ago, had
tried it in his wife's hanging baskets that he had
used that in there and they were gone on vacation,
(27:43):
usually came back and the baskets were all dried up
and they came back and the baskets were in good shape.
And that's where they started experimenting with that. And they've
been doing it. They've been using the sheep wool in
Europe and Germany and for years, for years and years
and years. But now they've got a way that you
can use it twice. Either way they pelletize it so
(28:03):
it's easy to add in or you can actually buy
the sheep wool to use as a mulch on top.
But yeah, it's getting great. That's why I've I tell
you we started talking about it last year. I think
it's going to take a little while for it to get,
you know, out there, to get the word spreading more
and more. Just like talking with that young man about
he was very successful with it getting the word out there.
(28:26):
Costs are a little bit more expensive, but it's it
looks like it's paying off in the long run and
showing a good good job as far as some critter repellent,
including deer with that landlin in there. So I think
this is an up and coming product. I'll tell you
one more that I didn't mention this morning we were
talking about that is feather meal. Good friend of mine
(28:49):
in Cleveland area, they have a garden center and they
bag that up and sell that as a repellent and
feather meal. I've did a lot of researches on and
showing real good results as a deer repellent also, and
that is feather meal which is a good all natural
fertilizer as well. But this sheep wool and the wool
(29:12):
ats and all that, I think it's an up and
coming all natural, all organic, great way to resource and
reuse that unused wool from sharing all those sheep. I
think it's a great idea. Before we take a break
to go to Cleveland, talk to Jeff. Jeff, good morning,
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Good question for you have a magnolia tree that's probably
about thirty feet high, but it's got two main trunks
and in the middle is this crotch area that is
always filling up with water and got dirt in there.
What do I do with that?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Really, there's not a lot you can do because with
that double trunk, it's always going to be pulling all right. Now,
you can and i'd have to see the trunks and all,
but you could possibly get an arburst to come out,
and what they will do. In some cases, they'll actually
cable tree branches together so they help support each other,
so they don't you know, do that or don't have
(30:08):
a less tendency to split or fall off the tree.
So that if there are two trunks that they could
actually drill through, do turnbuckles in there, and actually cable
them together, they could do that to help help slow
down the pull apart as far as you know, it's
splitting or opening up, but it's always going to have
(30:28):
that right in that center piece. And you know, we've
looked at the spray foam. You know, they've looked at
sealing it over really not an issue because it moves
too much for any of that to work. So without
seeing it, and again I think of having a certified
arbist on hand will really help you out. I would
guess the first thing I'd be looking at is cabling
(30:49):
those two together to help, let you know, reduce the
amount of pulling apart and then take it from there,
and hopefully by doing that it may actually seal over
a little bit more by not being split all the time.
But I'd have somebody take a look at it just
to be sure. If you don't want to have somebody
come out and look at it. Send me a couple
of pictures of it, of where it's splitting the overall
(31:10):
tree itself, and I'll give you some suggestions by looking
at the picture if you want to do that.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Okay, yeah, I'll do that, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
All right, Jeff, good talking with you. Appreciate the call.
Let's take a little break. Can we come back. We're
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again.
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I forgot to tell you what the plant pick of
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(33:27):
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well it can it can be in southern it's a
weed Southern countries.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
It's a weed.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Grows everywhere.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
It's a weed.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Looks nice though. Flame leaf they call it in Central
America flame leaf, flame leaf, flame leaf.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
I got some flame leaf in my yard.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know, my weed. My in laws when they lived
in Florida had two or three of them, really nice
ones on the corners of their house that were like,
oh yeah, eight feet tall, and those things would color up,
you know, and they were nice.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
But they considered a weed. In Mexico.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, it really grows everywhere, but yeah, they used them
as in the landscape and the specimen plants.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
During the whole year. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Those are ever green. Yeah, they keep the green all
the time, and then they'll kind of redding up a
little bit or whatever. The color is the bracts, you know,
not as bright as what you see in the in
the stores.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
But what in the stores this time you're in all seriousness.
They're they're beautiful. I tire them by the end of January, though,
if I put them in my house, But they are,
they're beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, most people do by the It's it's one of
those things that can give you good color all winter,
even if they lose all the green leaves. Those bracts
stay on there all winter long. But most people get
tired of it. Yeah, I uh, you know. Usually I
think of you sometime during the week. Obviously Twofold won
the hollow Santas.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
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Speaker 1 (35:30):
No, I haven't. I saw them though at Krog and
I was in a hurry and I didn't get any.
But anyway, I'll get them. I'll get them plenty of
and I have the buffalo trace there you go. I
was looking at I was on YouTube the other day
and I was zipping through some of those short things,
the little video things. Somebody had their cell phone going
(35:52):
and they went in their attic and they just went,
Oh my god, you've got to be kidding me. Don't
tell me they actually did no way, Oh my.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
What they do? What they do?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
They used that spray foam uh huh in the attic. Yeah,
I can't do that? Can you?
Speaker 7 (36:10):
What?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
What what they to insulate?
Speaker 7 (36:12):
You?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
To insulate an area?
Speaker 6 (36:14):
I mean not an area, there's a there's it.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Was like a little section off the rig and I
guess he had said something to somebody and they went
up there and sprayed that spray foam. Yeah, and it
just kind of bubbled up and was hard around his
two before you.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
When people say can I paint that? You know what
I say? I say, you can do whatever you want
to do. That' mean it's right, but you can do whatever.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You want to do.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Can you use spray phem and make sure you do
whatever you want to do. I don't know what they'd
be doing. We we the industry uses spray foam in
attics with a trend that we're seeing, especially in the southeast,
but it's moving north called whole house encapsulation, especially if
you have an air handler in an attic, they will
literally spray from the bottom, you know, the the roof
(37:00):
of the attic, which would be the bottom of the roof.
They would encapsulate that in foam. They would encapsulate the
sides and home. They would eliminate ventilation, which is interesting
right since we just started doing that in the late seventies,
And they will just let the air, the warm air
from the house filter up into the attic and it'll
(37:20):
become a conditioned space in the summertime. It's a little
easier on the air handler, et cetera, et cetera. So
we're seeing that, but so I don't know how. And
it's different foam than you get in the expandable foam
that you get in a can at the hardware store.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, this, and I get the and I knew you
were talking about how they spray up in the bottom
of the roof and all that, right, but not at
the bottom that would be the regular insulation. Instead of
spraying the top part, they sprayed the ball.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
They sprayed the bottom with foam. Well, it goes back
back kind of what I said, you can do it.
I don't know how much good it's going to do
in the insulation that's in that can. You gotta be
really careful because that eurothane based foam insulation and a can.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Expands about seven times. There are lower expansions for window
and door foam.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
You gotta be really careful with that. Though you get
a seven times expansion on foam, you could have a
real mess. And I don't know what the R value
is it eliminate drafts for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You know we would never have to redo it, would you.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Well, I don't know, I mean, what is it?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I mean it was horrible because it was big balls
and yeah, and somebody really screwed it up big time.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
I think the reaction with the person with a camera
was correct.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
You just kept that Oh my god, oh my, oh
what did they do? You've got to be kidding me,
oh my, oh my god, what am I going to?
You know, it was for real too.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
It wasn't hard to should have been able to cut
through that.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It was thick Gary. Yeah, there were some areas that
was twenty four inches deep. Oh my, these big bubbles
came up. Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
Well, a couple of weeks ago round I was telling
people what a good idea in all seriousness. If you
can't get up in your attic, get somebody to get
up in the attic and see what's going on, because
you know, you could find dead birds, You could find
where animals have been nesting. You find where insulation is
blown around, you can find where insulation is covered up
(39:25):
the soft adventing, and you really don't have any good
ventilation in the attic. I mean you can find mold,
you can find you know, water stains. I mean, there's
a lot of information up there, and I know you
don't want to search out problems, but you know, once
a year, get have somebody get up there and just
(39:46):
do a quick attic inspection.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Not a bad idea at all, But do you.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Think a lot of folks just go like, well, if
I don't see it, there's nothing wrong, nothing wrong.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
I like that attitude.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
There's nothing wrong, nothing wrong.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Thing is beautiful, Thing is beautiful. Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Did you have a great Thanksgiving?
Speaker 8 (40:05):
We had a wonderful Thanksgiving, good smoked turkey. And I'm
you've heardon me say over the year, I'm not a
huge turkey lover. It was the best turkey I've ever had.
Good for you and we had a wonderful time. One
of my best thanksgivings, how about you.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, we had a real good one. I didn't have
to do anything I took. I took the snacks, oh
and good and the orders which you always had me do.
We got done. We ate at four point thirty. Yeah,
got done. Everybody kind of chilled out. And the next thing,
you know, everybody said, well were you hitting that? We're
going home early? Blah blah blah, And we never got
him out of there cooler or anything.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Is there right?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah? So I have all these told me to bring him.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Over, sure a little party.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'll drop him off up front. Watched the Bucks game
with me. What yo?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Yeah, what's the deal with this weather? It's like winter?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Could you hear the wind howling through your house?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Could you?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
I do a little tease on Thursday on a morning
show and I was saying, you know, really pay attention.
As hard as the wind's blowing, you'll find where.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Your drafts are. You know, people always say, well, where
can I find I'm losing energy in the winter. Well
you could have found out Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
Yeah, because that wind was what thirty mile an hour
a lot of the day and you could hear it.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
You could you you didn't even have to feel it.
You can. You can find your leaks very quickly.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I did. And
I kept feeling I kept feeling a draft, right, and
I'm like, well, wait a minute, where is that coming from?
Speaker 7 (41:35):
That?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I had the basement door open, So then I closed
the basement door, you know, one of those deals as
I was going up and down in the basement. It's
an unfinished basement, right, But you're right, I was drafted
a little bit drafty in there. But that's a good thing, right.
I don't have housatosis.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
Well you don't have that, that's for sure. You might
have a big energy bill, but you don't have holsatosis.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You go, what are you gonna talk about today?
Speaker 8 (41:54):
We're gonna talk about just what we're talking about, taking
care of the house, seeing if we survived the holidays
and make some pa do some patching.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Some patching, Yeah, all right, do some patching with Gary
Sullivan coming up next. Thanks to all of our callers,
Thanks to our sponsors, Thanks of course, with Danny Gleeson,
because without Danny Gleeson, none of the stuff would happens.
So Danny, Thank you so much for all that you do.
Now do yourself a favor. Still tying. I know the
weather's bet out there, but you can still plant a
tree or two or three. Keep planting those data plants.
Be pollinator, fairly, pay for your worms, get the kids
(42:24):
and dogs involved gardening by all means, have fun, and
make it the best weekend of your life. Go bucks,
see you.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Help so look do it yourself gardener. At one eight
hundred eighty two three talk You're in the Garden with
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