December 13, 2025 • 43 mins
In this hour of In the Garden with Ron Wilson, Ron chats with Anthony Need of Flowering Lawn dot com about transforming your yard into a flowering lawn. They discuss the benefits of reducing maintenance, helping pollinators, and creating a beautiful and sustainable space. Anthony shares tips on how to get started, including dormant seeding and using bird feeders that also distribute flower seeds. They also dive into the new product, Flawn Seed Feather, which combines bird feed and flower seeds for a one-stop solution.
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Eight hundred excuse me, eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five Now I'll make it, I hope. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, choking up
here this morning as we go into our third hour
talking about yardening. You know, we've got our next guest
coming up. We've had them on our show many times,
and I think it's something that you might want to
(00:56):
think about. A lot of folks are thinking about this
and doing it as well. If you consider turning in
maybe turning part of your backyard or front yard or
some of it or all of it into a flowering lawn,
which cuts down on the mowing and the maintenance and
helps the pollinators at the same time. Well, if you're
thinking about it, you want to learn more about it,
(01:17):
I got a great website for you, and I've got
the man who knows all about it. His name is
Anthony Need of course, it's called flawn seed Kits. Their
website is flowering lawn dot com and Anthony is with us.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Good morning sir, Hey, good morning, Ron, Thanks for having
me back.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So what's the weather like this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I believe it's negative five degrees maybe negative thirty or
so with the wind chill pretty harsh out there.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So you've been out jogging and having a good time
this morning already.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh there's actually a marathon here and no Claire Wisconsin today.
I hope it gets canceled.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
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Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I don't think i'd want to be out running
in that one. We've had Anthony on our show multiple times,
and of course this company has the flawn Seed kids,
and so if you're not familiar with this whole theory,
kind of walk us through, Anthony, what is a what
is a flowering lawn? What is that? Why would we
want to do that? What does that involve?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Right? Absolutely, So you talked about, you know, yarding, and
we're you know, we think about like rewilding or bringing
our yards back to nature. There's a great book, Bringing
Nature Home and Nature's Best Hope by Doug Tallamy that
really helped to think about, you know, what is the
space that we need for ourselves, for our kids to play,
(02:33):
our pets to play, and then what spaces can we
maybe transition back to what they might have looked like
before we were here. We've disturbed over ninety five and
a half percent of our natural environment in this country,
and we're really losing a lot of habitat for our
pollinators as well as our other friendly animals out there.
So if we can just take some of that green
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lawn space that is a desert, it's a blank ecosystem,
add some natural flowers into there that are low growing.
These are you know, you can walk on them, you
can mow them. They're not the tall prairie plants that
does not you know, bring in all the ticks and
all those other creepy critters. This is still your yard,
just only better and you can use it. But it's
(03:15):
also beneficial for our pollinators. It provides a great nectar source,
natural habitat, and it reduces your need for maintenance, you know,
less mowing, less watering, no fertilizing, no weed control. So
it's much safer for the environments as well.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, you know you calculated that out you talk about
you know, reduced mowing time, fertilizing, the watering, the hold
nine yards. You know you could reduce your costs there
by a fifteen seventy hundred bucks easily each year.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, absolutely, especially if you're hiring a service. You know
how expensive those get and how many times they come
per year, so you can kiss that one goodbye. But
you you don't need to be out there doing all
this hard work too. A lot of people are injured
every year. My mom and my wife are both in
orthopedics and they know all these injuries that happened out there.
So you know, it's not fun pushing a heavy lawn
(04:04):
more up a hill, so especially on a slope, we
have we have specific kits for slopes, you know, septic mounds,
spaces that lawn really wasn't intended to grow anyway, you know,
in the shade where you're always receiving, always doing that
hard work every spring to try to get it to girl.
And you know, it's it's better just to find a
more permanent natural solution.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, and I like you know, and again go to
flowering lawn dot com flowering lawn dot com to learn
more about it. See all the different flawns that they
have available for you. I know, the one I always
bring up, of course, is the micro clover, which I'm
seeing more and more folks working into their fat, tall
fescue lawns or whatever stays low helps to feed the lawn.
(04:47):
But that micro clover continuing to gain ground and popularity
more and more.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that's like our gateway flawn seat if you will,
I mean, it's the most like grass lawn. You won't
be able to tell that it's in your lawn if
you're driving by it. It'll just be the darkest green
lawn all summer lawn. Because micro clover and white clovers
like Dutch white clover as well, are nitrogen fixers, so
(05:13):
they take the atmospheric nitrogen and they fix it into
the soil for you. So that is why we say
that there's no need for any additional fertilizing once you've
established your flawn.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And again you can find all these different mixes at
their website of flowering lawn dot com. And you do
have a lot of these available in retail independent garden
centers around the country that folks we'll be able to
find as well.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yep, almost four hundred stores now, So definitely check out
the store locator at the bottom of our website. You
can just go down there and click on that and
then enter your zip code and they'll pop right up.
They do carry different items at different store, so make
sure you call ahead first to see if you're looking
for one specific kit, but they will definitely be knowledgeable
(06:00):
fi able to help you out too. And we have
a little chatbot on our website. You can reach out
to me directly, no AI involved.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, and if you do, if you have a question
about this, Anthony will respond right back to you and
answer your questions. Do whatever you need as far as
because I'm sure there's questions about how you go about
doing this, et cetera, et cetera. He'll have all the
answers and his website covers a lot of it as well,
again checking out at flowering lawn dot com. Now the
question becomes can we do that this time of the year?
(06:29):
Is it better to do it in spring or fall?
And the next question is what is this new product
that I am seeing on your your your website called
flawn seed Feather. We're gonna take a quick break. When
we come back, we'll be with Anthony need talking about
what is this new way to put these seeds into
(06:50):
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Speaker 1 (09:36):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson, special
guest this morning is Anthony. Need you all know Anthony?
His company is flawing seed Kits yep, turning your lawn
into a flowering lawn. And if you'd like to learn
more about the benefits and all the different flowering lawn
kits that they have, go to their website and you'll
find you'll find out more about it at the flowering
lawn dot is it is it dot com?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yes, flowering lawn dot com. Okay, So I am on
your website of flowering lawn dot Com last week and
just flipping through seeing what's going on, what's new, what's exciting,
and I find out that there is a new category
called flawn seed and feather. Tell me about this new
program you've got.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well, we don't want to forget about our friendly backyard birds.
They are, you know, at this time of year, especially
their in desperate need of food because you know, without
open water and open you know, plants that are fruit
bearing in the in the spring, summer, and fall, it's
basically nature's pantry is empty this time of year for them.
(10:42):
So they do rely on us to some extent if
they're sticking around through the winter, to provide them with
some food. So you want to make sure you're finding
you know, high quality premium mixes. So we took out
all the fillers that you normally see in the big
box stores and just provided high at high protein bird seed.
(11:03):
But then we're we're adding in our flawn seed mixes
to the seed so the birds get their feed, and
then in the spring you'll be feeding the bees and
butterflies as well, and you're gonna be adding those flowers
to your your grass lawn, creating the flawn for you.
So you're saving yourself some time and energy not having
to spread it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
All right, So I put the bird feed in the
in the in the bird feeder, it also contains the
flower seeds, so the birds will also eat the flower
seeds and then distribute those into the lawn. They don't
eat those seeds, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, it's it's fun to it's fun to watch these birds.
I mean, it is pure enjoyment. It's a it's a
known stress reliever, uh, mindfulness and concentration. So if you
if you don't feed the birds now and you never have,
I really highly suggest it, and you get to watch
these birds go through and they pick out the seeds
they like and that's why it's important to have a mix.
(12:04):
You don't want to you know, some people do want
to attracts cardinals. We have a perfect mix ts for
cardinals and finches. But we like to you know, diversify
and have different birds come into your feeder. And you
can even have like a checklist of all the different
ones you get. I get up to thirty different species
here in my backyard every every day with with a
variety of different feeders, a variety of different mixes, and
(12:26):
then having open water for them too, whether you have
a heated bird bass or an aerated you know, pool
of water for them that doesn't freeze over. But yeah,
the birds will go through eat those high fat, high
protein seeds and then they'll flick out the flower seeds
for you, and then you fly off with them and
drop them as well. So you can move your feeder
(12:48):
around to create a different you know, pattern or distribution
throughout your yard if you want to focus on one
area or another, but usually below a bird feeder, you're
gonna have you know, either a just an area that
gets kind of kind of bearing. If you have birds
on the ground pecking and kicking at the ground, a
(13:08):
lot and this way instead of that, you have a
beautiful flaw and at the bottom of your bird feeder.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Got it, so they distributed around. So you'd actually put
that bird feeder on a pole that I can move
and have them distribute that seed for me while they're
eating the bird feed and not the not the flower seeds.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yep, you can do this all year round.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And now do you sell both of those so I
can buy either the premium the wild bird food or
I can buy the food and the pollinator seed together.
Correct both ways?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah? Absolutely, So we have two of our most popular
belong mixes already in there, our Speedy blend, which is
really quick to bloom. So if you do that now
over the snow the wildflower seeds, and that's if we
go back to what we were talking about before the break,
the flaw seed kits. You can spread those now over
the frozen ground and on a on a light snow.
(14:06):
You don't want to spread it on like a sheen
of ice that it would all just blow away. But
if it has a nice soft snow, or if you're
expecting another snowfall, the seeds will just get worked into
the soil through the winter and once the soil is
warm up in the spring, they'll naturally germinate and you'll
get a head start, you know, as your lawn's coming
on a dormant seed before any weed seeds they're coming
(14:28):
in from you know, down self, or annual weeds that.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Come back, so we get we can do that. So
obviously with the with the combination of the bird feed
and the flower seeds, that would work. Now obviously on
top of the snow, or even if there's no snow, great,
I do like dormant seeding where the lawn is freezing
and thawing the soil, that works it right into the
ground for you. So basically that's what's going to happen
ready to go in the springtime for you, or if
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you just need the seed, they've got their own blend
as well. All right, now here's a question for you ready.
Is it birds seed need or is it bird feed?
Think about this. If you you can't plant the birds
seeds and grow.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Birds you you got me there, you got me there.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Well, I always bring that up because it's you know,
it's like you know, and I call it bird seed
as well, but you know you can't plant that, so
it's bird you know, so we call it bird feed,
We burn bird seed. It doesn't matter. As long as
you're feeding the birds. That's what's important out there, right.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, Well, you can actually dig a little deeper, and
there are other types of bird foods besides seeds, such
as you know sets as a great one that's high
in fat too, and you're you're reusing a product from
another industry, the you know, meat market, So there's a
lot of different potentials for for doing that. So birds,
(15:53):
you know, there are certain certain birds that don't eat
seeds so much and they would prefer insects infective or
so feeding with meal worms as well as important especially
in the springtime when our early arriving birds that migrated
down south come here and then they get caught in
a winter storm, you know, in that April May timeframe.
(16:13):
That's when it's important to get those insects out there
for them to feed them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Talking with Anthony Need again. Their website is flowering lawn
dot com. One last thing for you, the discovery boxes
you have for kids, the feather finish de Luxe and
the Junior Nationalists tell me about those.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, so these are I mean, I'm always just trying
to take it back to the roots and how I
grew up. My parents took me out to a state
or national park almost every weekend as we were growing up.
We would take day trips or camping trips. And so
having that connection, whether you are able to get out
and go explore in nature or if you're able to
(16:52):
bring that nature back home to your yard, we want
to feed on that connection and creativity. It really just
builds character, that builds uh, you know, that education of
you know, science as well as just understanding how nature
works and how we are part of it. We are
wholly connected to it, relying on it and relying on
(17:14):
us now. So we we include different unique items four
times a year. So you can either buy it one
time purchase as a perfect gift like this time of
year for the holidays, or you can sign up for
a subscription that will just automatically ship every three months.
And they're they're organized by age as well as how
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many you know, different items or how much bird seed
you want in there. So they will include some seed,
but then they'll also include some special items, unique curated
items to help engage in nature.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, you're having a great time, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
This is what I was born to do. I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I love it too, Anthony need again. It's flawn seed
kits and now he's got the flawn seed and feather
and a course these boxes as well, and you'll learn
about it more if you go to the Flowering Lawn
dot com. That's flowering lawn dot com. And if you
have any questions, you can get directly a hold of
Anthony and he will answer all those questions for you
as well. Hey man, stay warm. I appreciate you spending
(18:13):
time with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Today.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, have a good one, all right, take care, Anthony
need again. It's a Flowering Lawn dot com to learn
more about this, and you'll find the flaw in seed
kits becoming more and more popular out there than a
lot of the independent, locally owned garden centers as well,
and quite an assortment. As a matter of fact, we
always have folks looking for creeping red time and sometimes
(18:40):
you can't find creeping red time or the seeds are
hard to come by. He has that in a pouch
that you can buy direct from them if your local
garden center doesn't sell it, or tell them they have
it so they can put it in stock as well.
But the red creeping time seems to be becoming more
and more popular. Get a lot of right rite ups.
You see it more in the some of the information
(19:04):
segments as well. Maybe you have a hard time finding it, well,
you can find it at flawn seed Kits. That's Flowering
Lawn dot info. So there you go. Don't forget our website.
It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In the
garden with Ron Wilson. Don't forget Rita's got two recipes
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which is absolutely outstanding. Be sure and check that out.
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Our plan of the week this week is Christmas fern.
If you've got that shady garden. You know, sometimes we
have attention to forget about ferns. They're not that hard
to grow. Christmas fern is really cool, probably one of
the most popular because it's evergreen only you know, twenty
four to thirty inches high and wide. Those little leaves
that are on there, called the pennies, actually look like
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this Christmas stocking. That's the name. Christmas Fern. Right quick break,
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Speaker 1 (22:03):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
our toll free number eight hundred A two three eight
two five five. Talking about yardening. We want to thank
both of our guests there for joining us talking about mushrooms,
talking about taking care of those birds, creating a flowering
lawn in case you're interested in doing that, can be
dormant seated, like we talk about grass seating. I like
doing it in mid February because then you get that
(22:23):
freezing and thawing really works it into the soil. But
those are available for you out there in case you
want to try the flowering lawn, maybe do it just
a small area, see how it works for you, and
then you can continue to expand from there. Also had
a good friend of mine, I call him my celebrity
friend because he stars in the Shawshank Redemption. Rob Ryder
(22:43):
and local celeb here in our area and voice of
most of the air shows that you see around the country.
But he's a big birder. He loves taking care of
the birds. And he said, talking about blue jays being carnivores,
she said, ask you they are omnivores. Omnivores would be
the category because although they do occasionally eat baby birds
(23:06):
and meat, they also will eat seeds, elite other things
as well. But they are omnivores because they cover all
kinds of different foods. They kind of eat a little
bit of everything out there. But he said, what was
interesting is even though they are bullies, once they saw
a hawk sweep down and carry off a blue jay
that was in their backyard. So it was amazing and
(23:27):
frightening at the same time. But even though they're big bullies,
they aren't the big bullies when it comes to those
hawk attacks, no doubt about it. So thank you, Rob Ryder,
star of the Shawshank Redemption. Always a pleasure hearing from you.
He's a big singer as well. I mean he's saying
with the Kingsman and the Beast Boys and all those guys.
(23:47):
Rob Ryder, good guy, one of the nicest guys you'll
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All right, tyching your calls at eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Also want to remind you
I was out and about this week as you cock
to your beginning of the show, looking for some snowblowers.
Of course, they're empty in our area. They're big snow
coming in today, and they're clean. There was nothing available.
(24:10):
I think I saw two gas powered things that were
about thirty six inches wide. I mean, not what I
was looking for. Uh So everybody will say, yeah, I'm
gonna take a couple of weeks and we'll get them
back in stock again. But while I was out, I
did notice in a lot of places that do offer
plants available for sale already marking down some of there.
They'd have spring flaring bulbs left over tulips and dafts
(24:33):
at a nothing cost. Scarf those bad boys up and
plant them in containers and use them next spring. Also,
amarillas and paper white kids. They aren't waiting around, they're
already on sale. They're already on sale. Scarf them up.
I'm telling you, when you're out there and you can
pick these things up for four or five bucks, do
it and and and storm away where it's cool and dark.
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If they've already started to grow, you want to go
ahead and pot them up, but try to get if
there's still dormod nothing coming out at the top of
that bulb. And just every two or three weeks, pot
one up or two or three, and so you got
color going for you all winter long. They last about
three weeks in flour with good color. And if you
want to throw them away you can, or just keep
them growing like a houseplant and see if you get
(25:17):
them to flower next holiday season. I've got a tip
sheet on that. Just email me and I'll send it
back to you. But scarf up the amerrillis and maybe
paper whites if they're on sale as well, already started
before the Christmas even gets here, on sale good price.
Scarf them up and give yourself some great color throughout
the winter season. They do a wonderful job lighting up
(25:39):
the room. And if you get paper whites, a few
of them here and there, they do a wonderful job
smelling up the house. I say smelling up the house
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I personally like the fragrance of paper whites. To Mansfield, Ohio.
We go, Robert, Good morning.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Good morning, Ron, Yes, sir, I got it the question.
I listened to you last week and I didn't get
the name of it. I need to know what brand.
I think you call it a soil knife. Used a
plant with you said, get a long, long bladed on
one you like.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Oh well, My point is a soil knife is a
great tool. Every gardener should have one, and there are
a bunch of them on the market. So if you
google soil knife, you'll get all different companies to have
all different types. And Horry Corey is another term for
soil knife, and you'll find those out there. I personally
use the one that's made through am Leonard, which is
(26:37):
in Pickwell, Ohio, and there you can google am Lenard
or their retail catalog is called Gardener's Edge, and you
can go on there and you find it. And I
have that one. It's an orange handle. I swear you
cannot break that thing. And they do sell one that's
(26:57):
a combo which is really nice, has a sheath and
it has an area for your soil knife to go
on the outside of the front of the sheath and
then behind that it would be your crosscut pruners. And
it's an outstanding combo. That's a great way to go.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Okay, so what did you say the name of it
was that you use.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Uh, it's just called us. It's called the Soil Knife
from A. M.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Leonard AM Leonards.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
He as the company. Or you can either google that
one or you can go to Gardener's Edge and that
is their retail website, Gardener's.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Edge, Gardener's Edge.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Okay, all right, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Appreciate You're welcome, Robert, appreciate you listening to the show.
Have a great holiday season, and I do. I still
I think that's one of the best. You know, once
you get a soil knife and if you put the
combo together, if you think about it, because somebody had
called us last week and said, you know, get this
this the uh, the sleeve that goes with it so
(28:01):
that you can put keep it in there because it's sharp,
it'll cut you. I just stick them in my back pocket.
It's like a survival knife for gardeners. But they have
the sheath that you can put that in if you want.
But if you're going to go that extreme. Get the
one that's the combo with the sheath that has the
soil knife goes in the front of it, and then
behind that in the next pocket is the pruners hand pruners,
(28:24):
and it makes a perfect combination. And between the hand
pruners which are great and their soil knife which is outstanding,
and I don't think you can break it. You can't
go wrong. I mean, you've got those two things. When
you're going around the yard and garden doing your management.
By walking around there you go, you got that got
everything LP just about everything you would ever need when
(28:45):
it comes to gardening. So again it's called a soil knife.
Hoary Corey is also if you're google those and you'll
find all kinds of them. I just happen to like
the am Leonard version A Leonard and their and their
retail catalog is called Gardener's Edge, So keep that in
mind as well. Okay, before we take a break, don't again,
(29:08):
don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
Check out our plan of the week, read us two recipes.
It's got the link for you where the American hort
Society and Burpees have gone together and put those anniversary
celebratory packets together. Martha Washington's Garden, George's Garden, Thomas Jefferson's garden,
(29:28):
there's a Nerve garden, and it's all stuff that they
grew way back when at the very beginning of all
of this stuff. And it's a it's a great sea packet.
Plus they have a catalog that you can buy a
book talking about all their great plants that they've introduced
over all these years in history behind Burpee catalog and
it's pretty interesting. So again that link is available for
(29:50):
you on our website at Ron Wilson online dot com.
We'll take one more break and when we come back,
guess who it's going to be. The man, the myth,
the legend. Little home improved for mister Gary Sullivan here
in the garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (31:45):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for the Man, the myth, the legend. He is the
most listened to holand brewers your host in the entire
solar system. His website Garysolivan online dot Com. Ladies and gentlemen,
the one, the Only, Gary.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And mister Wilson. I got a question for you. You
do yep for me? Yep, Okay, you outside this morning
and pamper your worms.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I don't think the worms. One throw some mulch on me.
The worms you're saying.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Is that you know? Okay? I was just checking because
to be warm, you're you're imploring us to pamper the
worms sometimes during the year, and I was wondering if
you checked on them this winter.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Not this morning, that this morning gonna be a little cold,
they're gonna be covered with the snow blanket for a while.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yes, sir, it does sound like it's gonna snow done it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I think you're gonna we're gonna get a little bit.
And I think it's Danny said, warming up later in
the week, next.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Week fifty five and rain on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We'll all go away, Yes it will. So did you
say you went and looked for snowblowers?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I did. I wanted the handheld, you know, the handheld,
the wider one. Yeah, And uh, I just laughed because
I thought about this A couple of weeks ago because
I'm taking care of my mom's driveway and sidewalk, and
I thought, well, maybe I'll just get one of those
and supportable. And I'm throwing the back of the truck
and go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
And the power shovel thing yeah or was that that
wasn't real snow thrower.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
It was just yeah, just to you.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Know, shovel with a kind of blows it away.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, And they those available, those displays were totally empty.
And even the ones where the gas powered things, you know,
I saw two of them sitting in one of the
places and they were empty too. So we went online
and you could find them online. But of course it
was a delivery the twenty second of December.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Something like that and still snow then.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But that's what we're gonna wind up doing, is ordered
one online. Did I don't know if you caught what
Joe Strecker's doing.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
No, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's got his wife bottom a gas powered one. Yeah,
and he hit ever used it because it never snowed
enough for him to use it. We went try to
start it, couldn't get it started, so he took it
end to get it started. Done whatever. So it's at
the shop right now. He bought a little He bought
one of the smaller when handheld ones and it works okay,
but you got to go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
So he could sell to you.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's why I was checking with him to see if
he still used it, because I was going to say,
can I buy it from you? Uh So, anyway he said,
he held up his phone and he said, here's what
I'm doing now, and they and his daughter was taking
a video and he got last this summer, he bought
one of those dragon weed burners.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh jeez, he's got to burn it away.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He was out there and then here it look, click
click click, turn it up high, and he started walking
up and down as driveway. Melton.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
You know that is a perfect tool for Joe.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Melton, And I said, you know what, you look exactly
like Gary Sulivan with a powerwasher in his hand.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
That's a good tool for him. Yeah, I want pictures
of that. He's got it on video, does he? Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, I'm serious. And that's exactly I think he and.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I had a conversation about that about a year ago.
I think that's been on his mind for a while.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah. Well, he couldn't wait, so he lit it up
and it worked. It was working pretty nice for him.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
So I've never used one, but I've heard of him,
and I always was a little concerned that if that
concrete was really cold, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Where I'm going, Yeah, what it caused problems?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Does it? Yeah? Does it crack the concrete?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You you know you think it does.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
As fast as he was moving across quickly, that was melting.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I don't think you're there long enough. I mean, I'm
sure if you just held it there.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
You would have a problem with you Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So there's a skill in everything.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
But there he was, I said, I told him, I said,
he looked.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Like you washer. I like the powerwasher that you do.
You know. One of the things nobody ever talks about, really,
is you ever see a snow Matt's snow Matt. Yeah, no,
so I have to. It's been a while since I've
seen one. It's been a while. I have to google that.
But they're they're big up north where you can get
(36:13):
like a mat and it's got it heaps up so
like you could put it on the stoop in front
of your door, or maybe the sidewalk down to the
driveway comes in different lengths, and it's it's just you
know it, it stays warm. This matt stays warm and
so snow doesn't accumulate on it. I mean, you can't
do your old driveway.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So it's not plugged in or anything, or it is
plugged in.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, it is plugged in. So you know, if you're
gonna if you're in an area where you have a
lot of snow, that's certainly an option. It seems like
this year, like they said, it might be a.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Snow a year, So it might be one of those years.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
It might be one of those years you want that investment.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I got a I don't I know you weren't listening,
but I got the folks listen to our show all
these years. Was that an antique show? Last week in
Columbus found that Henry Field's seed book Shenandoah, Iowa from
nineteen thirty one. Wow, it's in really good condition. It's
actually has some color illustrations hand drawn on the covers.
(37:15):
But they sell you know, seeds and all kinds of stuff.
But the seed packs are four cents apiece, by the way,
and one of the lines he has in here and
tell me if you've heard this before, is he said,
I'm going to beat something I've told you in the past.
Plant a good, big garden. That's the way to beat
the high cost of living and the only way to
have the nice, fresh and tasty things that we all like.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Nineteen thirty one.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, well, you know there's a lot of gardens, victory
gardens during the war.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yep. Well, then we'll think about that. I mean the
thirty one. I mean, what were you two notugh of that?
But in the middle of it, they saw so many things.
He was fourteen run. They have you're on to.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Cover that seed catalog.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I am around. They have the hendry Field Company paint.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, and they.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Have all these colors and you can buy paint from him,
and it's in five gallon lots and it's two dollars
per gallon.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Gosh wow.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
And you get a four inch paint brush with five
gallons or more.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Free free, that's the deal deal.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, we can't even buy a half pint now.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
For Oh and you can paint the barn too, because
they have barn red oh yeah, red, lead bright or
dark red. Fifty gallons. It was a buck twenty five a.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Gallon, fifty gallons. Yeah, that's a big barn.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
That's a lot of paint.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah. Well, the world's changed, hadn't it.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
And then on nineteen thirty one they were also on
two radio stations on a weekly basis talking about gardening.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
There you go, right, nineteen.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Thirty one, There you go?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I I love reading those old things like.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, that is pretty cool. So who found that?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It was a couple, Sander and Tom ZELII from Doyle'stown, Ohio.
They went to Columbus for a big antique show and
said they saw this sitting on a table and said,
let's get that for Ron Wilson and mail it to them,
and they be very nice. Yeah, so it's pretty cool, excellent.
Henry Fields is no longer in existence, but Gurney's Seed
and you probably heard of Gurney's. I have bought Henry
(39:21):
Fields and it's now Gurney's Seeds and they're still in existence.
And they have peppers in there they were talking about.
They call them mangoes, which my parents called green peppers. Mangoes. Okay,
that's how they referred to them here. But they're one
hot pepper that they sold one hot pepper was cayenne,
and it's called the really Hot one. Well descriptive, So
(39:46):
there you go.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
You know, my wife would say if she ate that, No, Garry,
this was really hot.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I don't like hot, even with the cayenne.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Even with it, Why is my iPad ringing?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, somebody's trying to get a hold of you.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, my car must.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Need you know. You would ask me about pont settis
last week, and we were talking about the leaves falling off,
that's why people throw them away and all that. I
read an article this week somebody talking about that exact
same thing, and they said, what's interesting is way back when,
like seventy sixty seventy years ago, pont settis were kind
of leggy anyway back because they hadn't gotten the hangar
(40:25):
really grown them very well. They would put small greens,
evergreen stems, in the bottom of the pot, so you
had the evergreens and then the pond seti of the
colorful bracts at the top. Yeah, and they said, you know,
maybe we should start looking at putting evergreen small pieces
back in the pont setia pots. And it makes a
(40:46):
combo planter of both the evergreen and the pond SETI
on the top.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
And evergreen would stay green for a long while. Yeah,
because it's just a cut branch.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, because it's down in that moist soil.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Soil.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Sure, you might even see it start to rude, depending
on what it is. But I said, oh, I have
to tell Gary about that, because that's that's from seventy
years ago.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And I want you to have one of those next
year for me.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I'll have it ready for you.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You well, even a pitcher or you just with your
overalls on holding the pot up and no, what do
you think I would think that looks beautiful?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Do you want my overalls with or without a shirt?
Or the shorts or the long sleeve?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I think a flannel shirt would be appropriate. Okay, you
gotta you gotta look like the real McCoy.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
The real like Grandpappy Amos and the Birds and the
real McCoy's. Did you watch that show?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, you could hold your little seat thing in your hand.
What is a pack that costs? Now? Uh?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know, anywhere from about two bucks and up Jesus
it was four cents back then. What are you gonna talk?
What are you gonna talk about today?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Oh? We're gonna talk about all kinds of things. Seriously,
we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk about drainings around your home,
how to do that. We're gonna talk about insurance for
your home. That whole thing's kind of changing a lot.
So that's Arper is going to join us on that.
We're talking about keeping your floors clean from all the
slush and salt. We got a lot going.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
On there you go, ladies and gentlemen. Gary Salvin coming
up next. If he's not coming up next on the
radio station you're listening to us on right now, call
him and find out why not. All right, Thanks to
all our callers, Thanks to our sponsors, thanks of course
with Glease and our producer without Danny and other stuff.
What happens, So Dan, thank you so much for all
that you do. Now do yourself a favor. Be safe
this weekend. Go out and make it the best weekend
of your life. See uh green time or not?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Rod who can help? At one eight hundred and eighty
two three talk and he says in the garden with
Ron Wilson,
Eight hundred excuse me, eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five Now I'll make it, I hope. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, choking up
here this morning as we go into our third hour
talking about yardening. You know, we've got our next guest
coming up. We've had them on our show many times,
and I think it's something that you might want to
(00:56):
think about. A lot of folks are thinking about this
and doing it as well. If you consider turning in
maybe turning part of your backyard or front yard or
some of it or all of it into a flowering lawn,
which cuts down on the mowing and the maintenance and
helps the pollinators at the same time. Well, if you're
thinking about it, you want to learn more about it,
(01:17):
I got a great website for you, and I've got
the man who knows all about it. His name is
Anthony Need of course, it's called flawn seed Kits. Their
website is flowering lawn dot com and Anthony is with us.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Good morning sir, Hey, good morning, Ron, Thanks for having
me back.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So what's the weather like this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I believe it's negative five degrees maybe negative thirty or
so with the wind chill pretty harsh out there.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So you've been out jogging and having a good time
this morning already.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh there's actually a marathon here and no Claire Wisconsin today.
I hope it gets canceled.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
For the sake of the gosh.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I don't think i'd want to be out running
in that one. We've had Anthony on our show multiple times,
and of course this company has the flawn Seed kids,
and so if you're not familiar with this whole theory,
kind of walk us through, Anthony, what is a what
is a flowering lawn? What is that? Why would we
want to do that? What does that involve?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Right? Absolutely, So you talked about, you know, yarding, and
we're you know, we think about like rewilding or bringing
our yards back to nature. There's a great book, Bringing
Nature Home and Nature's Best Hope by Doug Tallamy that
really helped to think about, you know, what is the
space that we need for ourselves, for our kids to play,
(02:33):
our pets to play, and then what spaces can we
maybe transition back to what they might have looked like
before we were here. We've disturbed over ninety five and
a half percent of our natural environment in this country,
and we're really losing a lot of habitat for our
pollinators as well as our other friendly animals out there.
So if we can just take some of that green
(02:54):
lawn space that is a desert, it's a blank ecosystem,
add some natural flowers into there that are low growing.
These are you know, you can walk on them, you
can mow them. They're not the tall prairie plants that
does not you know, bring in all the ticks and
all those other creepy critters. This is still your yard,
just only better and you can use it. But it's
(03:15):
also beneficial for our pollinators. It provides a great nectar source,
natural habitat, and it reduces your need for maintenance, you know,
less mowing, less watering, no fertilizing, no weed control. So
it's much safer for the environments as well.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, you know you calculated that out you talk about
you know, reduced mowing time, fertilizing, the watering, the hold
nine yards. You know you could reduce your costs there
by a fifteen seventy hundred bucks easily each year.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, absolutely, especially if you're hiring a service. You know
how expensive those get and how many times they come
per year, so you can kiss that one goodbye. But
you you don't need to be out there doing all
this hard work too. A lot of people are injured
every year. My mom and my wife are both in
orthopedics and they know all these injuries that happened out there.
So you know, it's not fun pushing a heavy lawn
(04:04):
more up a hill, so especially on a slope, we
have we have specific kits for slopes, you know, septic mounds,
spaces that lawn really wasn't intended to grow anyway, you know,
in the shade where you're always receiving, always doing that
hard work every spring to try to get it to girl.
And you know, it's it's better just to find a
more permanent natural solution.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, and I like you know, and again go to
flowering lawn dot com flowering lawn dot com to learn
more about it. See all the different flawns that they
have available for you. I know, the one I always
bring up, of course, is the micro clover, which I'm
seeing more and more folks working into their fat, tall
fescue lawns or whatever stays low helps to feed the lawn.
(04:47):
But that micro clover continuing to gain ground and popularity
more and more.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that's like our gateway flawn seat if you will,
I mean, it's the most like grass lawn. You won't
be able to tell that it's in your lawn if
you're driving by it. It'll just be the darkest green
lawn all summer lawn. Because micro clover and white clovers
like Dutch white clover as well, are nitrogen fixers, so
(05:13):
they take the atmospheric nitrogen and they fix it into
the soil for you. So that is why we say
that there's no need for any additional fertilizing once you've
established your flawn.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And again you can find all these different mixes at
their website of flowering lawn dot com. And you do
have a lot of these available in retail independent garden
centers around the country that folks we'll be able to
find as well.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yep, almost four hundred stores now, So definitely check out
the store locator at the bottom of our website. You
can just go down there and click on that and
then enter your zip code and they'll pop right up.
They do carry different items at different store, so make
sure you call ahead first to see if you're looking
for one specific kit, but they will definitely be knowledgeable
(06:00):
fi able to help you out too. And we have
a little chatbot on our website. You can reach out
to me directly, no AI involved.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, and if you do, if you have a question
about this, Anthony will respond right back to you and
answer your questions. Do whatever you need as far as
because I'm sure there's questions about how you go about
doing this, et cetera, et cetera. He'll have all the
answers and his website covers a lot of it as well,
again checking out at flowering lawn dot com. Now the
question becomes can we do that this time of the year?
(06:29):
Is it better to do it in spring or fall?
And the next question is what is this new product
that I am seeing on your your your website called
flawn seed Feather. We're gonna take a quick break. When
we come back, we'll be with Anthony need talking about
what is this new way to put these seeds into
(06:50):
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talking about it here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (09:36):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson, special
guest this morning is Anthony. Need you all know Anthony?
His company is flawing seed Kits yep, turning your lawn
into a flowering lawn. And if you'd like to learn
more about the benefits and all the different flowering lawn
kits that they have, go to their website and you'll
find you'll find out more about it at the flowering
lawn dot is it is it dot com?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yes, flowering lawn dot com. Okay, So I am on
your website of flowering lawn dot Com last week and
just flipping through seeing what's going on, what's new, what's exciting,
and I find out that there is a new category
called flawn seed and feather. Tell me about this new
program you've got.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well, we don't want to forget about our friendly backyard birds.
They are, you know, at this time of year, especially
their in desperate need of food because you know, without
open water and open you know, plants that are fruit
bearing in the in the spring, summer, and fall, it's
basically nature's pantry is empty this time of year for them.
(10:42):
So they do rely on us to some extent if
they're sticking around through the winter, to provide them with
some food. So you want to make sure you're finding
you know, high quality premium mixes. So we took out
all the fillers that you normally see in the big
box stores and just provided high at high protein bird seed.
(11:03):
But then we're we're adding in our flawn seed mixes
to the seed so the birds get their feed, and
then in the spring you'll be feeding the bees and
butterflies as well, and you're gonna be adding those flowers
to your your grass lawn, creating the flawn for you.
So you're saving yourself some time and energy not having
to spread it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
All right, So I put the bird feed in the
in the in the bird feeder, it also contains the
flower seeds, so the birds will also eat the flower
seeds and then distribute those into the lawn. They don't
eat those seeds, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, it's it's fun to it's fun to watch these birds.
I mean, it is pure enjoyment. It's a it's a
known stress reliever, uh, mindfulness and concentration. So if you
if you don't feed the birds now and you never have,
I really highly suggest it, and you get to watch
these birds go through and they pick out the seeds
they like and that's why it's important to have a mix.
(12:04):
You don't want to you know, some people do want
to attracts cardinals. We have a perfect mix ts for
cardinals and finches. But we like to you know, diversify
and have different birds come into your feeder. And you
can even have like a checklist of all the different
ones you get. I get up to thirty different species
here in my backyard every every day with with a
variety of different feeders, a variety of different mixes, and
(12:26):
then having open water for them too, whether you have
a heated bird bass or an aerated you know, pool
of water for them that doesn't freeze over. But yeah,
the birds will go through eat those high fat, high
protein seeds and then they'll flick out the flower seeds
for you, and then you fly off with them and
drop them as well. So you can move your feeder
(12:48):
around to create a different you know, pattern or distribution
throughout your yard if you want to focus on one
area or another, but usually below a bird feeder, you're
gonna have you know, either a just an area that
gets kind of kind of bearing. If you have birds
on the ground pecking and kicking at the ground, a
(13:08):
lot and this way instead of that, you have a
beautiful flaw and at the bottom of your bird feeder.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Got it, so they distributed around. So you'd actually put
that bird feeder on a pole that I can move
and have them distribute that seed for me while they're
eating the bird feed and not the not the flower seeds.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yep, you can do this all year round.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And now do you sell both of those so I
can buy either the premium the wild bird food or
I can buy the food and the pollinator seed together.
Correct both ways?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah? Absolutely, So we have two of our most popular
belong mixes already in there, our Speedy blend, which is
really quick to bloom. So if you do that now
over the snow the wildflower seeds, and that's if we
go back to what we were talking about before the break,
the flaw seed kits. You can spread those now over
the frozen ground and on a on a light snow.
(14:06):
You don't want to spread it on like a sheen
of ice that it would all just blow away. But
if it has a nice soft snow, or if you're
expecting another snowfall, the seeds will just get worked into
the soil through the winter and once the soil is
warm up in the spring, they'll naturally germinate and you'll
get a head start, you know, as your lawn's coming
on a dormant seed before any weed seeds they're coming
(14:28):
in from you know, down self, or annual weeds that.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Come back, so we get we can do that. So
obviously with the with the combination of the bird feed
and the flower seeds, that would work. Now obviously on
top of the snow, or even if there's no snow, great,
I do like dormant seeding where the lawn is freezing
and thawing the soil, that works it right into the
ground for you. So basically that's what's going to happen
ready to go in the springtime for you, or if
(14:52):
you just need the seed, they've got their own blend
as well. All right, now here's a question for you ready.
Is it birds seed need or is it bird feed?
Think about this. If you you can't plant the birds
seeds and grow.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Birds you you got me there, you got me there.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Well, I always bring that up because it's you know,
it's like you know, and I call it bird seed
as well, but you know you can't plant that, so
it's bird you know, so we call it bird feed,
We burn bird seed. It doesn't matter. As long as
you're feeding the birds. That's what's important out there, right.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, Well, you can actually dig a little deeper, and
there are other types of bird foods besides seeds, such
as you know sets as a great one that's high
in fat too, and you're you're reusing a product from
another industry, the you know, meat market, So there's a
lot of different potentials for for doing that. So birds,
(15:53):
you know, there are certain certain birds that don't eat
seeds so much and they would prefer insects infective or
so feeding with meal worms as well as important especially
in the springtime when our early arriving birds that migrated
down south come here and then they get caught in
a winter storm, you know, in that April May timeframe.
(16:13):
That's when it's important to get those insects out there
for them to feed them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Talking with Anthony Need again. Their website is flowering lawn
dot com. One last thing for you, the discovery boxes
you have for kids, the feather finish de Luxe and
the Junior Nationalists tell me about those.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, so these are I mean, I'm always just trying
to take it back to the roots and how I
grew up. My parents took me out to a state
or national park almost every weekend as we were growing up.
We would take day trips or camping trips. And so
having that connection, whether you are able to get out
and go explore in nature or if you're able to
(16:52):
bring that nature back home to your yard, we want
to feed on that connection and creativity. It really just
builds character, that builds uh, you know, that education of
you know, science as well as just understanding how nature
works and how we are part of it. We are
wholly connected to it, relying on it and relying on
(17:14):
us now. So we we include different unique items four
times a year. So you can either buy it one
time purchase as a perfect gift like this time of
year for the holidays, or you can sign up for
a subscription that will just automatically ship every three months.
And they're they're organized by age as well as how
(17:35):
many you know, different items or how much bird seed
you want in there. So they will include some seed,
but then they'll also include some special items, unique curated
items to help engage in nature.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, you're having a great time, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
This is what I was born to do. I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I love it too, Anthony need again. It's flawn seed
kits and now he's got the flawn seed and feather
and a course these boxes as well, and you'll learn
about it more if you go to the Flowering Lawn
dot com. That's flowering lawn dot com. And if you
have any questions, you can get directly a hold of
Anthony and he will answer all those questions for you
as well. Hey man, stay warm. I appreciate you spending
(18:13):
time with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Today.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, have a good one, all right, take care, Anthony
need again. It's a Flowering Lawn dot com to learn
more about this, and you'll find the flaw in seed
kits becoming more and more popular out there than a
lot of the independent, locally owned garden centers as well,
and quite an assortment. As a matter of fact, we
always have folks looking for creeping red time and sometimes
(18:40):
you can't find creeping red time or the seeds are
hard to come by. He has that in a pouch
that you can buy direct from them if your local
garden center doesn't sell it, or tell them they have
it so they can put it in stock as well.
But the red creeping time seems to be becoming more
and more popular. Get a lot of right rite ups.
You see it more in the some of the information
(19:04):
segments as well. Maybe you have a hard time finding it, well,
you can find it at flawn seed Kits. That's Flowering
Lawn dot info. So there you go. Don't forget our website.
It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In the
garden with Ron Wilson. Don't forget Rita's got two recipes
or Peppermint Bark, and of course that brisket as well,
which is absolutely outstanding. Be sure and check that out.
(19:27):
Our plan of the week this week is Christmas fern.
If you've got that shady garden. You know, sometimes we
have attention to forget about ferns. They're not that hard
to grow. Christmas fern is really cool, probably one of
the most popular because it's evergreen only you know, twenty
four to thirty inches high and wide. Those little leaves
that are on there, called the pennies, actually look like
(19:49):
this Christmas stocking. That's the name. Christmas Fern. Right quick break,
we come back phone lines. We're open for you at
eight hundred a two, three, eight, two, five five, and
then also at the top of our next how half hour,
I'm sorry, Gary Solomon with Home Improvement. You're in the
garden with Ron Wilson. How is your garden growing?
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Speaker 1 (22:03):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
our toll free number eight hundred A two three eight
two five five. Talking about yardening. We want to thank
both of our guests there for joining us talking about mushrooms,
talking about taking care of those birds, creating a flowering
lawn in case you're interested in doing that, can be
dormant seated, like we talk about grass seating. I like
doing it in mid February because then you get that
(22:23):
freezing and thawing really works it into the soil. But
those are available for you out there in case you
want to try the flowering lawn, maybe do it just
a small area, see how it works for you, and
then you can continue to expand from there. Also had
a good friend of mine, I call him my celebrity
friend because he stars in the Shawshank Redemption. Rob Ryder
(22:43):
and local celeb here in our area and voice of
most of the air shows that you see around the country.
But he's a big birder. He loves taking care of
the birds. And he said, talking about blue jays being carnivores,
she said, ask you they are omnivores. Omnivores would be
the category because although they do occasionally eat baby birds
(23:06):
and meat, they also will eat seeds, elite other things
as well. But they are omnivores because they cover all
kinds of different foods. They kind of eat a little
bit of everything out there. But he said, what was
interesting is even though they are bullies, once they saw
a hawk sweep down and carry off a blue jay
that was in their backyard. So it was amazing and
(23:27):
frightening at the same time. But even though they're big bullies,
they aren't the big bullies when it comes to those
hawk attacks, no doubt about it. So thank you, Rob Ryder,
star of the Shawshank Redemption. Always a pleasure hearing from you.
He's a big singer as well. I mean he's saying
with the Kingsman and the Beast Boys and all those guys.
(23:47):
Rob Ryder, good guy, one of the nicest guys you'll
ever meet. Kind of close to Gary Sullivan. Of course.
All right, tyching your calls at eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Also want to remind you
I was out and about this week as you cock
to your beginning of the show, looking for some snowblowers.
Of course, they're empty in our area. They're big snow
coming in today, and they're clean. There was nothing available.
(24:10):
I think I saw two gas powered things that were
about thirty six inches wide. I mean, not what I
was looking for. Uh So everybody will say, yeah, I'm
gonna take a couple of weeks and we'll get them
back in stock again. But while I was out, I
did notice in a lot of places that do offer
plants available for sale already marking down some of there.
They'd have spring flaring bulbs left over tulips and dafts
(24:33):
at a nothing cost. Scarf those bad boys up and
plant them in containers and use them next spring. Also,
amarillas and paper white kids. They aren't waiting around, they're
already on sale. They're already on sale. Scarf them up.
I'm telling you, when you're out there and you can
pick these things up for four or five bucks, do
it and and and storm away where it's cool and dark.
(24:56):
If they've already started to grow, you want to go
ahead and pot them up, but try to get if
there's still dormod nothing coming out at the top of
that bulb. And just every two or three weeks, pot
one up or two or three, and so you got
color going for you all winter long. They last about
three weeks in flour with good color. And if you
want to throw them away you can, or just keep
them growing like a houseplant and see if you get
(25:17):
them to flower next holiday season. I've got a tip
sheet on that. Just email me and I'll send it
back to you. But scarf up the amerrillis and maybe
paper whites if they're on sale as well, already started
before the Christmas even gets here, on sale good price.
Scarf them up and give yourself some great color throughout
the winter season. They do a wonderful job lighting up
(25:39):
the room. And if you get paper whites, a few
of them here and there, they do a wonderful job
smelling up the house. I say smelling up the house
because some folks think it's a little too pungent. For them.
I personally like the fragrance of paper whites. To Mansfield, Ohio.
We go, Robert, Good morning.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Good morning, Ron, Yes, sir, I got it the question.
I listened to you last week and I didn't get
the name of it. I need to know what brand.
I think you call it a soil knife. Used a
plant with you said, get a long, long bladed on
one you like.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Oh well, My point is a soil knife is a
great tool. Every gardener should have one, and there are
a bunch of them on the market. So if you
google soil knife, you'll get all different companies to have
all different types. And Horry Corey is another term for
soil knife, and you'll find those out there. I personally
use the one that's made through am Leonard, which is
(26:37):
in Pickwell, Ohio, and there you can google am Lenard
or their retail catalog is called Gardener's Edge, and you
can go on there and you find it. And I
have that one. It's an orange handle. I swear you
cannot break that thing. And they do sell one that's
(26:57):
a combo which is really nice, has a sheath and
it has an area for your soil knife to go
on the outside of the front of the sheath and
then behind that it would be your crosscut pruners. And
it's an outstanding combo. That's a great way to go.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Okay, so what did you say the name of it
was that you use.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Uh, it's just called us. It's called the Soil Knife
from A. M.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Leonard AM Leonards.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
He as the company. Or you can either google that
one or you can go to Gardener's Edge and that
is their retail website, Gardener's.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Edge, Gardener's Edge.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Okay, all right, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Appreciate You're welcome, Robert, appreciate you listening to the show.
Have a great holiday season, and I do. I still
I think that's one of the best. You know, once
you get a soil knife and if you put the
combo together, if you think about it, because somebody had
called us last week and said, you know, get this
this the uh, the sleeve that goes with it so
(28:01):
that you can put keep it in there because it's sharp,
it'll cut you. I just stick them in my back pocket.
It's like a survival knife for gardeners. But they have
the sheath that you can put that in if you want.
But if you're going to go that extreme. Get the
one that's the combo with the sheath that has the
soil knife goes in the front of it, and then
behind that in the next pocket is the pruners hand pruners,
(28:24):
and it makes a perfect combination. And between the hand
pruners which are great and their soil knife which is outstanding,
and I don't think you can break it. You can't
go wrong. I mean, you've got those two things. When
you're going around the yard and garden doing your management.
By walking around there you go, you got that got
everything LP just about everything you would ever need when
(28:45):
it comes to gardening. So again it's called a soil knife.
Hoary Corey is also if you're google those and you'll
find all kinds of them. I just happen to like
the am Leonard version A Leonard and their and their
retail catalog is called Gardener's Edge, So keep that in
mind as well. Okay, before we take a break, don't again,
(29:08):
don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
Check out our plan of the week, read us two recipes.
It's got the link for you where the American hort
Society and Burpees have gone together and put those anniversary
celebratory packets together. Martha Washington's Garden, George's Garden, Thomas Jefferson's garden,
(29:28):
there's a Nerve garden, and it's all stuff that they
grew way back when at the very beginning of all
of this stuff. And it's a it's a great sea packet.
Plus they have a catalog that you can buy a
book talking about all their great plants that they've introduced
over all these years in history behind Burpee catalog and
it's pretty interesting. So again that link is available for
(29:50):
you on our website at Ron Wilson online dot com.
We'll take one more break and when we come back,
guess who it's going to be. The man, the myth,
the legend. Little home improved for mister Gary Sullivan here
in the garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (31:45):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for the Man, the myth, the legend. He is the
most listened to holand brewers your host in the entire
solar system. His website Garysolivan online dot Com. Ladies and gentlemen,
the one, the Only, Gary.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And mister Wilson. I got a question for you. You
do yep for me? Yep, Okay, you outside this morning
and pamper your worms.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I don't think the worms. One throw some mulch on me.
The worms you're saying.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Is that you know? Okay? I was just checking because
to be warm, you're you're imploring us to pamper the
worms sometimes during the year, and I was wondering if
you checked on them this winter.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Not this morning, that this morning gonna be a little cold,
they're gonna be covered with the snow blanket for a while.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yes, sir, it does sound like it's gonna snow done it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I think you're gonna we're gonna get a little bit.
And I think it's Danny said, warming up later in
the week, next.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Week fifty five and rain on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We'll all go away, Yes it will. So did you
say you went and looked for snowblowers?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I did. I wanted the handheld, you know, the handheld,
the wider one. Yeah, And uh, I just laughed because
I thought about this A couple of weeks ago because
I'm taking care of my mom's driveway and sidewalk, and
I thought, well, maybe I'll just get one of those
and supportable. And I'm throwing the back of the truck
and go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
And the power shovel thing yeah or was that that
wasn't real snow thrower.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
It was just yeah, just to you.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Know, shovel with a kind of blows it away.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, And they those available, those displays were totally empty.
And even the ones where the gas powered things, you know,
I saw two of them sitting in one of the
places and they were empty too. So we went online
and you could find them online. But of course it
was a delivery the twenty second of December.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Something like that and still snow then.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But that's what we're gonna wind up doing, is ordered
one online. Did I don't know if you caught what
Joe Strecker's doing.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
No, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's got his wife bottom a gas powered one. Yeah,
and he hit ever used it because it never snowed
enough for him to use it. We went try to
start it, couldn't get it started, so he took it
end to get it started. Done whatever. So it's at
the shop right now. He bought a little He bought
one of the smaller when handheld ones and it works okay,
but you got to go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
So he could sell to you.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's why I was checking with him to see if
he still used it, because I was going to say,
can I buy it from you? Uh So, anyway he said,
he held up his phone and he said, here's what
I'm doing now, and they and his daughter was taking
a video and he got last this summer, he bought
one of those dragon weed burners.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh jeez, he's got to burn it away.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He was out there and then here it look, click
click click, turn it up high, and he started walking
up and down as driveway. Melton.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
You know that is a perfect tool for Joe.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Melton, And I said, you know what, you look exactly
like Gary Sulivan with a powerwasher in his hand.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
That's a good tool for him. Yeah, I want pictures
of that. He's got it on video, does he? Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, I'm serious. And that's exactly I think he and.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I had a conversation about that about a year ago.
I think that's been on his mind for a while.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah. Well, he couldn't wait, so he lit it up
and it worked. It was working pretty nice for him.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
So I've never used one, but I've heard of him,
and I always was a little concerned that if that
concrete was really cold, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Where I'm going, Yeah, what it caused problems?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Does it? Yeah? Does it crack the concrete?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You you know you think it does.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
As fast as he was moving across quickly, that was melting.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I don't think you're there long enough. I mean, I'm
sure if you just held it there.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
You would have a problem with you Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So there's a skill in everything.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
But there he was, I said, I told him, I said,
he looked.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Like you washer. I like the powerwasher that you do.
You know. One of the things nobody ever talks about, really,
is you ever see a snow Matt's snow Matt. Yeah, no,
so I have to. It's been a while since I've
seen one. It's been a while. I have to google that.
But they're they're big up north where you can get
(36:13):
like a mat and it's got it heaps up so
like you could put it on the stoop in front
of your door, or maybe the sidewalk down to the
driveway comes in different lengths, and it's it's just you
know it, it stays warm. This matt stays warm and
so snow doesn't accumulate on it. I mean, you can't
do your old driveway.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So it's not plugged in or anything, or it is
plugged in.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, it is plugged in. So you know, if you're
gonna if you're in an area where you have a
lot of snow, that's certainly an option. It seems like
this year, like they said, it might be a.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Snow a year, So it might be one of those years.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
It might be one of those years you want that investment.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I got a I don't I know you weren't listening,
but I got the folks listen to our show all
these years. Was that an antique show? Last week in
Columbus found that Henry Field's seed book Shenandoah, Iowa from
nineteen thirty one. Wow, it's in really good condition. It's
actually has some color illustrations hand drawn on the covers.
(37:15):
But they sell you know, seeds and all kinds of stuff.
But the seed packs are four cents apiece, by the way,
and one of the lines he has in here and
tell me if you've heard this before, is he said,
I'm going to beat something I've told you in the past.
Plant a good, big garden. That's the way to beat
the high cost of living and the only way to
have the nice, fresh and tasty things that we all like.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Nineteen thirty one.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, well, you know there's a lot of gardens, victory
gardens during the war.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yep. Well, then we'll think about that. I mean the
thirty one. I mean, what were you two notugh of that?
But in the middle of it, they saw so many things.
He was fourteen run. They have you're on to.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Cover that seed catalog.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I am around. They have the hendry Field Company paint.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, and they.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Have all these colors and you can buy paint from him,
and it's in five gallon lots and it's two dollars
per gallon.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Gosh wow.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
And you get a four inch paint brush with five
gallons or more.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Free free, that's the deal deal.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, we can't even buy a half pint now.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
For Oh and you can paint the barn too, because
they have barn red oh yeah, red, lead bright or
dark red. Fifty gallons. It was a buck twenty five a.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Gallon, fifty gallons. Yeah, that's a big barn.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
That's a lot of paint.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah. Well, the world's changed, hadn't it.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
And then on nineteen thirty one they were also on
two radio stations on a weekly basis talking about gardening.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
There you go, right, nineteen.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Thirty one, There you go?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I I love reading those old things like.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, that is pretty cool. So who found that?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It was a couple, Sander and Tom ZELII from Doyle'stown, Ohio.
They went to Columbus for a big antique show and
said they saw this sitting on a table and said,
let's get that for Ron Wilson and mail it to them,
and they be very nice. Yeah, so it's pretty cool, excellent.
Henry Fields is no longer in existence, but Gurney's Seed
and you probably heard of Gurney's. I have bought Henry
(39:21):
Fields and it's now Gurney's Seeds and they're still in existence.
And they have peppers in there they were talking about.
They call them mangoes, which my parents called green peppers. Mangoes. Okay,
that's how they referred to them here. But they're one
hot pepper that they sold one hot pepper was cayenne,
and it's called the really Hot one. Well descriptive, So
(39:46):
there you go.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
You know, my wife would say if she ate that, No, Garry,
this was really hot.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I don't like hot, even with the cayenne.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Even with it, Why is my iPad ringing?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, somebody's trying to get a hold of you.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, my car must.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Need you know. You would ask me about pont settis
last week, and we were talking about the leaves falling off,
that's why people throw them away and all that. I
read an article this week somebody talking about that exact
same thing, and they said, what's interesting is way back when,
like seventy sixty seventy years ago, pont settis were kind
of leggy anyway back because they hadn't gotten the hangar
(40:25):
really grown them very well. They would put small greens,
evergreen stems, in the bottom of the pot, so you
had the evergreens and then the pond seti of the
colorful bracts at the top. Yeah, and they said, you know,
maybe we should start looking at putting evergreen small pieces
back in the pont setia pots. And it makes a
(40:46):
combo planter of both the evergreen and the pond SETI
on the top.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
And evergreen would stay green for a long while. Yeah,
because it's just a cut branch.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, because it's down in that moist soil.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Soil.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Sure, you might even see it start to rude, depending
on what it is. But I said, oh, I have
to tell Gary about that, because that's that's from seventy
years ago.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And I want you to have one of those next
year for me.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I'll have it ready for you.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You well, even a pitcher or you just with your
overalls on holding the pot up and no, what do
you think I would think that looks beautiful?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Do you want my overalls with or without a shirt?
Or the shorts or the long sleeve?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I think a flannel shirt would be appropriate. Okay, you
gotta you gotta look like the real McCoy.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
The real like Grandpappy Amos and the Birds and the
real McCoy's. Did you watch that show?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, you could hold your little seat thing in your hand.
What is a pack that costs? Now? Uh?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know, anywhere from about two bucks and up Jesus
it was four cents back then. What are you gonna talk?
What are you gonna talk about today?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Oh? We're gonna talk about all kinds of things. Seriously,
we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk about drainings around your home,
how to do that. We're gonna talk about insurance for
your home. That whole thing's kind of changing a lot.
So that's Arper is going to join us on that.
We're talking about keeping your floors clean from all the
slush and salt. We got a lot going.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
On there you go, ladies and gentlemen. Gary Salvin coming
up next. If he's not coming up next on the
radio station you're listening to us on right now, call
him and find out why not. All right, Thanks to
all our callers, Thanks to our sponsors, thanks of course
with Glease and our producer without Danny and other stuff.
What happens, So Dan, thank you so much for all
that you do. Now do yourself a favor. Be safe
this weekend. Go out and make it the best weekend
of your life. See uh green time or not?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Rod who can help? At one eight hundred and eighty
two three talk and he says in the garden with
Ron Wilson,
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