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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yarning on our first show for twenty twenty five. And
what a better way to kick it off than talking
to mister Joe Stricker, our executive producer. Of course, he
takes care of our website at Ron Wilson online dot
com Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Good morning, sir,
(00:53):
and happy twenty twenty five. Happy twenty twenty five? Are
you happy? I am happy.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm happy to be here. Hey, you you've been ill,
fighting this dog on respiratory thing and it's just been
taking me. You think you got it kicked, and then
it's back, and then you get it kicked and it's back.
I went through it, can get it. You can't stop coughing.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I went through the exact same thing, so I get
I'm still coughing and I'm crazy. I think I'm going
to have a birthday party for my cold here pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Because it started on your birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And yeah, I have going twelve weeks now, eleven twelve weeks.
I can't I still have the cough. I'm not contagious.
So you know, people can kiss me, so be okay,
but you know, it just is what it is. It is,
so yeah, hopefully you get over it soon. I know
it's tough.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It is, especially when you're old like me. You're not old,
old man, just seasoned, seasoned. There you go, mature, but
there you go, I'm mature gardener. So yeah, what what's
been going on for?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Twenty four's gonna say? This is twenty four season.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
This is the twenty fourth year that we've.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Been doing that. Twenty four years.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Wow. And I've been here since day one. Yep, twenty
four years, twenty four with you and twenty eight for
me total.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Wow, long time. It's been an interesting ride. Yep, tell
you what I come up on. Thirty years for you?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's good, good for you, I know, I know that's
good or bad. So some people say that it's good
that I have longevity and that kind of thing. But
there are other people it's like, man, you haven't gone
over the wall yet.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
What wall? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know this wall?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'm happy good, I'm happy. I've met a lot of
a lot of interesting people in my twenty eight years.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I guess you had It's a cool thing about this,
this business in the radio. You get to meet so
many great people out there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, Ron Wilson.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Interesting, No, but seriously, you know you any yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Work within I met all those guys. Yeah, all cool guys.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah. So yeah, lots of opportunities.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So yeah, and uh and you know, and it's full
I mean it's full circle because your first day that
we worked together was the first day that the Ohio
State beat.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
My national championship.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, so it's kind of all full circle coming around here.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So let's just see what happens here in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So they keep playing like they've been playing. Well, we'll
see what happens. Hey, let's see what happens. Speaking of
of newness in twenty twenty five, we got got a
new station. We do, yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We gotta think. We got to thank our friends at
KUGN in five ninety a M and Eugene.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Oregon k u g N Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yep, yeap, So tell well, so le'll tell them a
little bit about the show. Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, we like to hear from our our listeners, right,
and we try to base you know, we we we
we want folks to share tips. We want folks to
get involved, tell us what's good for them, what didn't
work for them, et cetera, et cetera. You know that
I've always said there's more than one way to garden,
and I have my opinion, and you know, we'll talk
about you know, that type of thing. But if you
if something has worked for our listeners, we like we
(04:18):
encourage them to give us a call and share that
with us. So we like interaction no matter where you are,
and it's it's a lot of folks say, well it's
kind of dumb, you know, or what I do is
kind of stupid. You might might no no, no, no no,
share that with us if it's worked for you or whatever,
let us know. It's very casual, very open.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Kind of like kind of like remember the old show
Home Improvement when Tim would always go over to Wilson
and talk over the We'll talk over to over the fence. Yeah,
now where your neighbor and say, hey, does that work
for you?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah? Yeah, very casual. Try to have a lot of
you know, a guest, a lot of good guests. It's
specialized in whatever. We try to bring up, books, new
books that are out there. I had a lot of
authors on and talk about that. So we try to
share as much great information as we can.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So I try to have a lot of fun and
you know, and welcome our listeners from Eugene, Oregon. Yea,
So if you're going to be the first first caller,
call in two three eight, two five fives the number
O k U G N five ninety Eugene.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Beautiful state. What a beautiful state.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, I'm sure in Oregon they do a lot of
a lot of things that are similar to what we
do here in the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well that you know that you see a lot of
plants that are in the local garden centers around here
around the United States period come out of Oregon and
they they they have some huge nurseries out there and
they're absolutely gorgeous, lots of knowledgeable people. Yeah, so you know,
we've we've been out there many I've only been out
there probably twice, but you know, it is a major
(05:46):
source for nursery plants.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So your first show of this twenty twenty five, who
are you going to have on today?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Today? We are going to have Genro's. We tried to
get around a couple of weeks ago with a b
cups and weren't able to connect. So she's gonna be
on with us this morning. She's out of Texas at
a really cool little idea that she's got. We're gonna
have Ron Rotha's on for the folks at kug n.
Ron is a certified master arbors. We talk a lot
about trees and tree care. He's also a hobby meteorologist
(06:15):
and he's really good at it, and so we're gonna
have him on this morning. We've got a big winter
blast coming at us here maybe tomorrow the next day.
Let us know what's going on there too. And he
looks at the country overall, but for our area as well.
So yeah, those are our two. Gary Sullivan who does
the home improvement nationally. He'll be on with us later
on in the show and share some home improvement tips. Yeah,
(06:37):
and of course you helped to kick it off, and
Danny Gleese and our producer you know, me and Dan
in between.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So what trends are you seeing for this year? Has
anything been announced like a plan of the year or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
There's we have all kinds of plants of the year
which we will start to go over here in another
couple of weeks, Perennial of the year, Hossa is a
year things like that, you know that. I think the
big trend out there right now continues is creating that
outdoor living space. You know that started many years ago
and it just continues on and living walls and living
ceilings and things like that. Just continue to be strong.
(07:14):
Backyard growing your own food and vegetables that's starting to big,
continues to get larger. Container gardening continues to get larger.
The color of the year is mocha moose, which is
a dark chocolate color. And it's amazing how many plants
because the green industries try to match up you know
(07:34):
what plants go with the color of the year. Pantones
color of the year, and it's amazing going to be
plants they have that are have they made maroonish or
dark brown foliage color or flower color to match along
with that. So we'll share all that as we go
along through the January and February as we get into
the spring gardening season. So we'll share that with everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, and for our friends in Eugen, Oregon, you have
a Facebook page we do it's in the garden with Ron,
and during the show there is an actual garden chat
room going on and a lot of people chime in.
So if you if you have a question and you
can't get through, or you're just unsure about geting under,
I get it because you know you're yep, you might
(08:15):
be scared or a little apprehensive about talking to someone
going to the chat room and put the question. There's
a lot of people in there, has got a lot
of good ideas. And Ron rothas who will be on
with us later. Typically he's always in there. He's always
holding court yep.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So that is on Facebook in the Garden with Ron Wilson,
and the website.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Is Ron Wilson online dot com.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And there's a couple posts there for twenty twenty five
as well. Rita Hikenfeld who's.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Our Surbalists CCP cmh Rberless Urbalist, cooking expert, which doctor
which doctor maker.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And a very very incredible cook and she has a
recipe of the week every week. So check out Rita's
recipe of the week and this week is mac and
cheese broccoli yep, and that looks incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'm not a big broccoli fan. I do like broccoli
when it's a coda with a little olive oil and
then bake it or broil it high temperature and get
a little crispy. I love it like that. But in
macaroni and cheese, I do like that. Yeah it looks good. Yeah,
so it's a good deal.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So Rita's mac and Cheese with broccoli is a recipe
of the week. And the plan of the week is
kind of goes along with what we're talking about with trends.
It is, you know, plant more trees, planting trees, and
it is the Morton's circle sycamore.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yep or exclamation is the way it is.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Exclamation. Why is it exclamation because it looks like an
exclamation because.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It looks like an exclamation point, although it's very columnar shaped.
But it's a sycamore tree and just an absolute wonderful tree.
I've been watching this thing for the last five six
seven years now. It's really some of them really starting
to get established and maturing and just phenomenal. But it
doesn't get it big and wide like the old sycamores,
(10:05):
much more like I say, this pyramidal shape and great
for a street tree, for your yard, whatever it may be.
It's very uh antrac nosed resistant, powery mildew resistant, and
it just it's a it's a bete and it's it's
called Exclamation. We'll talk more about it later in the show,
but it's one of those trees that you might want
to consider if you're looking for a little bit larger
(10:26):
tree for a street tree planting or in your yard.
But more than an upright type of fashion.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Very very cool. Yeah, and for our new listeners, uh now,
right now, he's he's taking the winter off, but you'll
be talking with Buggy Joe come here in the spring
and Buggy Joe Boggs and some a little bit in
the fall when he decides the show.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, we get and again it's all OSU extension
and and they share extension bulletins from all around the states.
So you know, he's he's just full of information about
insects and disease and other things, other things. We have
lots of fun with him.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, we had lots of fun. So so if you
want to call in, you know, it's it's it's fun.
It's very casual and you know, give us a call
and the phone lines are open. I'm looking at the
phone bank right now. And we're ready to rock X
one two three, two five five excellent.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
There you go. Is that it? That's it? All right,
Joe Streker, our executive producer. If you like what you
see on our website at Ron Wilson online dot com
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(11:40):
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Speaker 2 (11:44):
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Speaker 1 (11:45):
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Speaker 2 (11:46):
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Speaker 1 (11:47):
In Washington, d C. Garden eighty three, riding around his vespa,
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thank you, New year, Looking forward to twenty twenty five
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That's our number here In the Garden with Ron Wilson,
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Speaker 1 (15:24):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. The
happy New Year twenty twenty five is here. Can't believe
it now the year slipped right on bias And yeah,
unfortunately I have been fighting this dog gone respiratory thing.
You can't stop coughing. And I know more people I
talked to Joe included Danny's been sick the last few days.
It stuff just rolling around and you just can't get
(15:45):
rid of it. You think you're done, and then all
of a sudden it pops right back up again. And
it's crazy stuff. So if you're out there and kind
of going through the same thing, I feel for you.
I tell you what I feel like. I've lost the
last four weeks of twenty twenty four trying to deal
with all this stuff. So anyway, looking forward to twenty
twenty five, lots of new plants on the horizon. I'm
(16:07):
telling you it just my head spins when I see
all of the new annuals and perennials, new shrubs being introduced,
new hydrangees that really makes your head spin being introduced
onto the market that have been trialed and tested and
doing well and it's just phenomenal. I'll tell you what,
(16:28):
gardeners today, you've it. You know, it's amazing what you
have to choose from compared to when I first started
in this industry forty plus, well fifty years ago, and
it's just unbelievable how that has changed. You know. Again,
(16:48):
it's like, how do you keep up with all? I
can't keep up with all of it. But obviously with
technology and all, we're able to learn more about these
plants and whatever. But you know, it's amazing and you
will be again surprise and twenty twenty five in the
spring when you go into your locally owned independent garden
centers and see what they're going to have for you
this year in annuals and perennials and shrubs. It's crazy.
(17:10):
We'll try to keep you updated as best we can
with a lot of these new varieties that are coming
on as well.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
In the meantime, Indiana, Matt, good morning, good.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Morning, Ron.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yes, sir, hey, i's calling in.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That's calling in the if I.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Could get a request, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
You've you've done the Cup of Joe for quite a
long time now, Yes, and It started out with talking
about as your heart and his garden and what was
going on. Yep, I want to know what's going on
with ron? A cup of.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Ron, a cup of run. That's good. I wouldn't yeah,
like what.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
What have you been doing? You know this week? What
you know, what's going on in the greenhouse industry and
things like that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Sure, I love it, I will will keep it. Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
If you could put that together, you know every week,
like what have you been doing at your home? And
what have you been doing at work? And different things
going on in the greenhouse industry. Way back when when
I had a small greenhouse, we were actually starting our
flower pots in January.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You know, absolutely some of those some of those harder
to get started plants, like the platoonias and things like that.
Getting started early. I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
We would do platunias, and it was just a lot
of work early on in January, and a lot of
people might not realize, you know that it's already starting up.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Ye who what was what was the name of your greenhouse?
Speaker 5 (18:36):
That is just a little family thing we had here. Okay,
you know we sold at farmers markets, got it. That's
that's that's going back quite a.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Way, right, But it's a lot of work, but it's
a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yes, it is. One tip I've got for everybody today
is it's a good time to be doing soil samples.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Absolutely about really and so many times, you know, we
talk about that on this show, but I think that's
one of those things that kind of just goes by
the wayside, Matt. You know, and I don't know that
you know, people feel like, well, I add some composts,
I fertilize every year, and you can do all that stuff,
but unless you have the soil test to know exactly
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what's going on there, especially especially that pH level, a
lot of times what you do has doesn't do anything
at all, or you know, has no effect on those plants.
So you're right, great tip, great reminder, and we'll see
about putting together the couple run as well.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
All right, that'll be good. I'll be I'll be. I've
listened since you started that long ago, and I'll be
waiting to hear it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
All right, Matt, appreciate the input. I really do. And
you know I've had I've had a couple of folks say,
you know, you gotta talk about every week what you see
in flower around you, what you're doing right. And you're right.
And I write all these notes down for timely gardening
tips of things that folks should be doing. But you're right,
And I'll let you a little secret. Uh, As of today,
(20:04):
I am semi semi retired from my full time job.
Can you believe that I'm gonna be working part time?
That means I go from seventy hours to forty hours
a week, No, but cutting back so that will allow
me a little more time to start spending a little
more time in my own landscape and container gardening and
(20:24):
things like that as well. So looking forward to doing
that too. But and we're gonna continue doing this radio
show because it's so much fun. We have so much
fun talking with everybody and sharing tips and come up
with a cup of Ron, cup of Joe, the cup
of Roun, the cup of the Durango kid, cup of
Buggy Joe. We'll have all kinds of cups out there.
What do you say, Durango? He's in eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five. That's our number here
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Speaker 1 (22:49):
Fulcome back having twenty twenty five. You're in the garden
with Ron Wilson, our toll free number eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five, looking forward to twenty
twenty five. Uh, you know, you got the new year
in front of us here. Now you've got the January
and February, and in most states, you know, we're all
dormant and kind of clearing up the game mother nature.
(23:10):
I always look at it as cleansing the palette, cleaning
the plate off, and getting us ready for our spring
of twenty twenty five. And I think it's I look
forward to it. And lots of new plants out there,
lots of great selections, and we're going to be here
to help walk you through to make hopefully make you
as successful as we can in your gardening endeavors. And uh,
you know the cup of run I like that. Danny
(23:32):
and I were talking over a break cup of Run,
Cup of Cup of the DURINGO, we'll have all kinds
of cups.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
On our show, Cup of Dick and Dayton.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Cup Dica Dating whole nine yards And in meantime, let's
go to Columbus, Ohio talk with Don.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Hey, how's it going, how's it going on? How happy
semi retirement?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah? There you thank you?
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Yeah. You walk for the same company of the whole time,
haven't you.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I have, I've been. That's kind of an unusual thing,
but same nursery for all these years.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Wow, worked it like working for the same business for
like what fifty years or something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, And you know what's interesting is it's it's family
owned and they're just a super nice family and just
a great place to work. And I always have loved
it there when I was in Columbus. When I went
to Ohio State, I did work there for a few
years at Slimmon's Garden Center and uh and worked there
with it in Columbus, so and I actually worked in
both places. I would go back and forth, so I
(24:26):
had experiences with other garden centers too. But the hell yeah,
but it's a it's been a it's been a great
experience I'm and I can't stop it, so I'm gonna
keep going. But you know that's why I say semi
retired at this stage.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Oh, nobody in this nobody in the horticulture industry, in
the green industry, I've retired. I've convinced we just we might,
you know, cut back, move on for something else. But
you know, in the same but we never fully retired.
I'm convinced.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, you're right. I always I read a saying one
time at the we uh it just kind of spayed away.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
Yeah, indeed, indeed indeed very cute. So you're talking about
the new plant variety.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yes, when I.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
First got started in this industry about thirty years ago,
there was a gentleman that told me this was back
when I lived in the UK, this is and he
told me that you never trust a tree, at least
that has been around for less than one hundred years,
because we don't really know whether it's going to do,
whether it's you know, what the resistance really is. And
you know how many of these new plants, you know,
(25:28):
I when I first came here, and if we call
the you know, the stella, the olia daily lea, the
pupe with the olia daily is they try to do
it and that thing I remember I planted some of
those and they pooped off for one year. And I'm
just very skeptical. How much are these plants really tested,
you know, before they go out all these new I
think there's almost a you know, because we live in
a hypocapitalist environment right now, we have plants. I think
(25:49):
there was an incentive to rush these things to market,
and some of them may not be quite tested and
ready for you know, prime time if you will.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
And you're right, and you know you can you can
only count on the plant. You know, hopefully the plant
breeders have done their trials and done their trial gardens
and done their testing so that when this plant comes out,
you know, even proven winners will tell you that even
though the plant is labeled as a proven winner, it
may not work in every you know, all around the
United States. It may only work in some zones. So
(26:16):
you get a situation like that where it's you know,
a highly marketed plant as a proven winner or whatever
it may be, but it may not work in your area.
And you know, we've seen some duds come through with
especially hydrangees. You know, they're just they're just turning tridranges
out all the time. I just shake my head, guy,
I can't take any more of these hydrangeas.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And some have been a bust for you know, some areas.
In some areas they did okay, So yeah, that's going
to happen on the market, I think with with annuals
and perennials. You know, obviously that's a quicker turnaround. Developing
new plants. Trees obviously take time. You got to watch
them grow and mature. And you're right, you know that.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
That because I'm skeptical of these elms, the new albums
they have, are they really going to be resistant to
Dutch elm disease? I mean, look at the ornamental pairs
we were told sixty years ago they'll never you know,
pollinate and long behold. I have actually gone down on
the walk in the side of the river with my
wife ver Is about a couple of months ago, and
I kid you not, there was a there one of
(27:19):
the invasive ornamental pairs, and then had a pair on
it roughly the size of I would say, uh quota,
you know, maybe a little bit bigger, but you know,
I mean yeah, so I mean it's It's always makes
me wonder because and that's because you know, we kept
trying to develop new and new varieties, and you know,
we always have we have to have the new and
new and new, and sometimes you know, we don't always
(27:39):
know what we're doing new. Yeah, yeah, you know, there
could be long term ramifications to the environment.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Thus, thus the uh you know another I guess another
plug for planting native plants that have been growing in
the area for many, many years. And obviously uh that
you know, you know down the road that you know
native plants, what they have done over all of these
years in your area. So you know that's that's a
I guess another plus for planting natives. But you're right,
(28:05):
and again that pair, I still think back of that.
You know, when I first started the fifty years ago,
that's when a Bradford pear and Aristocrat pair were first
introduced into the market. And those things. We sold thousands
of those every year. I mean, it was it's the
perfect tree. It grew, you know, it grew anywhere it
was you know, it was a soldier. It looked like
it was all. They all grew the same, the white flowers,
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and it was sold as a fruitless ornamental pair. That's
the way we sold it. And well, you know, things change,
and of course what happened happened, and and through all
the cross pollination on next thing, you know, we've got
them producing fruit that's viable. So yeah, it's it was
actually a.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Lady at the university. I'm sorry right now, I was.
I say, there was a lady at the University of
Cincinnati that actually done all kinds of research and history
in that. Now, it's because we started developing new varieties. Yeah,
and you had enough genetic variation that you know, the
it's dot setting fruit and so it's cross pollinated.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yep. As a matter of fact, there was a there
were two that were more of a dwarf. I think
they were called Jack and Jill. And yeah, and I
think that one had something, you know, if it did
develop fruit, it was a little bit larger than normal.
So you're right. Uh, they do push a lot of
plants to get them out on the market as quick
as they can, and not all of them are are good.
Some of them are robust, and again I say that's
(29:25):
a Donnett's probably another one of the pluses in the
planting native trees and shrubs.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, have a have a happy
new Year and take cat.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Thanks Don, good talking with you. And before we take
a break, Dick from Dayton. Good morning, Dick, good morning.
How are you.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
It's not a good day?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Uh oh, what's wrong?
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Oh? I was telling Jerry Jeff this morning. I got
a letter from Columba. Somebody uh where I went to
get my physical said something to the bureau and it
was a it had hurt my feelings. But I'll be okay, Ron,
It's okay, I'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
Yeah, it's it's it's just it's something that I have
to work it out. You know. I don't want to
mention anybody, you know, like Jerry Jeff, but I'm a
strong person.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You know you are.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
But I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And you got a lot of well you got a
lot of support behind you, Dick. We're all behind you.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Yeah, I just wanted to say, go Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
How about those Buck guys?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Huh yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:33):
And you know what, how about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
How about him? You know, every time they keep winning,
I keep thinking, boy, Dick's Dick's gotta be excited.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Now, hey, uh, you know it's just bad though. You know,
I feel so sorry they got a straight and get
get a new coach and they got I say, Howard
had come back or Bernie Cozar, but the Browns just
went down downward, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, I don't know what happened there. That just kind
of fell apart, and unfortunately it keeps handling.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Ryan dazy hero. He's gonna win next week too. You'll watch.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I tell you what. If they played like they have
the last two games, they could take it all the way.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Yeah that sounds okay though.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, you sound good and you stay positive, Okay, keep smiling.
Don't forget me. We're all behind you.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Ronny asks what my friend said. Ron I talked to him, Dick,
you have done my friend told me, Dick, my so person.
And don't let somebody get you down. When you talk
to people, don't mention who did it because you mentioned
the business, No do don't.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Nope. I just puts you. That puts you at their level.
If you do that, so you'll you'll talk to you
all right, don't forget we're behind you all the way.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, Dick, good talking with a quick break. We
come back talking more about yardening here at eight hundred
and eight two three eight two five five. Here in
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We are talking yardening at eight hundred and eight two
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Ron Wilson And usually on Saturday mornings, there's some folks
on there that kind of chat back and forth, so
be sure and check that out. Last. Doctor Ze'll get
in there occasionally too. Oh yeah, doctor z ewel jump
in there. And then you see who we always blame
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any of the things that need to be changed, we
blame on doctor Z in Washington, all.
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My tech issues, doctor Z's fault.
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All doctor Z's problem, all his fault. By the way,
last week and we always have our plant of the week,
and the last week, I guess I could throw that
into a cup of run. Yeah, because I pick a
plan every week. But last week was the rosemary plant.
And uh, this time of the year, and I'm not
a you know what, I have never been a rosemary fan.
(34:42):
Using it and cooking. Although I've gotten more and more used.
I used to kid with Rita Hikenfeld to say, I
don't like chewing on pine needles, and that's kind of
the flavor you get out of it. But you know,
it's it used an awful lot and so many different things,
and so rosemary is an extremely popular herb to be growing.
And the thing that's interesting about rosemary is that it
(35:03):
really tolerates pretty cold temperatures. The problem is it can't
tolerate it for a long period of time. So if
you're like in our zone where it's a six A
six B, and we get into the fall season and
you start dropping down into the upper thirties mid thirties,
if it drops down overnight and goes right back up
the next day, they'll tolerate that. It's no problem. As
a matter of fact, I've left those things out as
(35:25):
a sacrificial lamb to see how long it would last
until it really got consistently cold, and then you can
see it start to decline, but you know, dipping up
and down like that. They can tolerate it. But once
the temperatures get into the thirties low thirties, consistently, more consistently,
it's time to bring that thing back indoors and overwinter
(35:46):
it and then take it back outside in the summer
or you know, late spring, through the summer and into
the fall again. The problem when you bring rosemary inside,
and some folks have really good success with it, and
some folks don't. But when you bring a rosemary plant indoors,
the three basic things, which is true with all plants,
but this is really important with rosemary. And as Rita
(36:08):
would say, she obviously because of the name, wants as
much bright light as possible. So if you can give
it full sun, extremely blight bright lighter as much less,
like six to eight hours if you can. It's like
off a south window is absolutely wonderful. If it's off
of an east or west window where it would get
(36:28):
two or three hours of direct sun, you may have
to supplement with a grow light, and that's easily done.
And when you have in an area like that, you
want to continue to rotate it so all the sides
get equal sunlight. So every week or so you'd keep
turning that thing around so you get equal sunlight. That
is top of the list, all right. Good drainage, super
(36:51):
important With rosemary, they like to stay on the dryer side.
Think about it, a Mediterranean plant. They like to stay
on the dryer side. But and it contains. When you water,
you give it a good soaking and then you make
sure that soil drains well. You let the soil get
really dry out, just close to just totally dry, and
(37:12):
then you soak it again. But make sure it's close
to totally dry before you water it again. And when
you do water, don't forget. And this is true for
all houseplants, anything you're growing inside. Use lukewarm to warm water,
don't use cold water. They actually respond better to lukewarm
to warm water when watering. Okay, so keep that in mind.
And you know, again, make sure it doesn't stay totally
(37:34):
dry too long before watering again. So not too dry
for long period, not too wet for long period. And
it's really picky about that. And the third thing would
be good air circulation. I have found where they sit
in an area where it just doesn't get good air circulation.
Air doesn't seem to move, It gets powdery mildew very easily,
(37:58):
and it can week in the plant, maybe even kill
the plant. So in some cases, if you don't have
good air movement. You may want to get one of
those small fans that like clip onto the side of
a table or whatever, set it up away from it,
just so air is moving around the plants. And actually
that's a good idea for a lot of plants indoors,
especially a little bit later on when you start, if
(38:21):
you're into starting your own seedlings, you know, tomatoes and
peppers and all that kind of stuff indoors, having air
circulation around those plants is extremely important if you go
into grower's greenhouse, Like if you're in our greenhouses right now,
up in the top and those in the peaks, you
would see at rafter level the beams going across small fans,
(38:43):
not very big, small fans all pushing one direction, and
then the next one pushing another direction, and another one
the next one they're pushing another direction, so that they're
moving the air all the time. Constant air movement, and
that's very very important with a lot of indoor plants
as well, especially rosemary. And if you don't, all of
a sudden, you'll start to see her get powdery mildew.
(39:05):
Sometimes they start she tries to turn black on the inside.
Not a good thing. And if she does, don't panic,
all right, clean all that stuff out of there. You
can use a little bit of a horticultural oil, you know,
it is some type of fun just side that has
powdery mildew listed to get it into check and then
(39:26):
go from there. But very very important. So those are
the three best things. And actually when you're indoors they
grow better. Rosemary does better at cooler temperatures rather than
the warmer temperatures. The secondicidal soap sicasius she and the
aphens or anything show up on them. Otherwise not a
heavy feeder. I wouldn't do any feeding to it. Just
gotta go let it limp through the winter and if
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it puts out new growth, and they will, they'll shoot
out a little new growth there here and there. That's
what you want to clip off and use over the winter.
So just keep your harvest very simple and and just
try removing that newer growth until we get back into
the spring and you can put it back outside. Rita
has found we had a contest many years ago. We
joke about it all the time. I went and bought
(40:09):
because you find the rosemary being sold at the places
that sell Christmas plants in a pyramidal shape like a
Christmas tree, and very cool and great for the holiday season.
You put little balls on or whatever and put it
in the kitchen or whatever and grow your rosemary for
the holidays. And one year we always cad about the
you know, growing herbs and that, and I went and
(40:31):
bought two of them and gave her one, kept one myself,
and the contest was to see who could get theirs
to overwinter the best. Well. She their house, even though
it has good lighting, is heated mostly by wood, so
it's a very dry air and lack of humidity, lack
(40:52):
of sunlight, whatever. It didn't last very long in their house.
Mine lasted longer, and I was able to keep it longer,
but all of a sudden I started getting a little
bit of mildew on the inside and I couldn't stop it.
And next thing I knew, mine look pretty darn pat
and I wound up pitching it out. Probably could have
revived it if I held onto it, but I pitched
it out, so we both kind of lost. So, you know,
(41:13):
keep that in mind. But what she has found over
the years overwintering, and she has some nice ones in
some larger containers, is to put them in an unheated
garage or shed, and like I said, they can take
the colder, cooler temperature down into the thirties. So if
you have an unheated garage that stays fairly, you know,
fairly consistently, you know, above freezing or so, and it
(41:35):
doesn't dip down there very much, rosemary can actually be
overwintered in an unheated garage near a sunny window, give
it a little bit of sunlight and do quite well.
She says she's had very very very good success over
wintering in her unheated garage. You'll keep that in mind
when it comes to rosemary. One last thing. They do
like to breathe, and a lot of times you'll find
(41:57):
rosemary obviously being sold in plastic pots. Reason obviously costs
light weight, et cetera, et cetera, so they're usually sold
in plastic pots. Obviously, plastic pots don't breathe, and so
you'll see a lot of folks that are successful with
carrying a rosemary plant year after year after year, actually
(42:19):
transplanting them into a terra cotta pot. The clay pots
that breathes more it it has better air circulation. They
dry out faster. That's one of the downfalls of using
clay pots, and they're heavier, but the little added weight
with when your rosemary, if it gets some size to
it on the top. Same way with amarillis, you know,
(42:41):
using like a squat azalea pot where they're not quite
so deep but wide. Those are excellent for amarillis, but
great for that rosemary plant so it doesn't tip over.
So the added weight of the terra cotta pot actually
helps you out and it breeds a little bit better,
and it does stay wet quite as long. One of
(43:01):
the pros and cons to using plastic, which I prop
about everything I crow hit outside is the plastic, except
for some porcelain pots or ceramic pods. But you know,
that's kind of the one of the pros and cons
of using plastic is that it doesn't dry out quite
as much, holds water a little bit more, which is
a real benefit in some situation. Excuse me. So there
(43:22):
we go, all right, first hour under our belt. Coming
up in our next hour at the bottom of the hour,
we're going to talk to Ron Rothice. Got a big
major storm coming up in our area all across the
United States. Actually, he's going to give us an update
on that when we'll talk about some tree issues as well.
Then at the top of the hour we're going to
talk with Jen Rose, the inventor of b cups. B cups.
(43:43):
It's all happening here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Non gardening questions. Ron has the answers and one eight
eighty two three talk. You're in the garden with Rod Wilson.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yarning on our first show for twenty twenty five. And
what a better way to kick it off than talking
to mister Joe Stricker, our executive producer. Of course, he
takes care of our website at Ron Wilson online dot
com Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Good morning, sir,
(00:53):
and happy twenty twenty five. Happy twenty twenty five? Are
you happy? I am happy.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm happy to be here. Hey, you you've been ill,
fighting this dog on respiratory thing and it's just been
taking me. You think you got it kicked, and then
it's back, and then you get it kicked and it's back.
I went through it, can get it. You can't stop coughing.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I went through the exact same thing, so I get
I'm still coughing and I'm crazy. I think I'm going
to have a birthday party for my cold here pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Because it started on your birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And yeah, I have going twelve weeks now, eleven twelve weeks.
I can't I still have the cough. I'm not contagious.
So you know, people can kiss me, so be okay,
but you know, it just is what it is. It is,
so yeah, hopefully you get over it soon. I know
it's tough.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It is, especially when you're old like me. You're not old,
old man, just seasoned, seasoned. There you go, mature, but
there you go, I'm mature gardener. So yeah, what what's
been going on for?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Twenty four's gonna say? This is twenty four season.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
This is the twenty fourth year that we've.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Been doing that. Twenty four years.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Wow. And I've been here since day one. Yep, twenty
four years, twenty four with you and twenty eight for
me total.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Wow, long time. It's been an interesting ride. Yep, tell
you what I come up on. Thirty years for you?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's good, good for you, I know, I know that's
good or bad. So some people say that it's good
that I have longevity and that kind of thing. But
there are other people it's like, man, you haven't gone
over the wall yet.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
What wall? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know this wall?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'm happy good, I'm happy. I've met a lot of
a lot of interesting people in my twenty eight years.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I guess you had It's a cool thing about this,
this business in the radio. You get to meet so
many great people out there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, Ron Wilson.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Interesting, No, but seriously, you know you any yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Work within I met all those guys. Yeah, all cool guys.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah. So yeah, lots of opportunities.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So yeah, and uh and you know, and it's full
I mean it's full circle because your first day that
we worked together was the first day that the Ohio
State beat.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
My national championship.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, so it's kind of all full circle coming around here.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So let's just see what happens here in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So they keep playing like they've been playing. Well, we'll
see what happens. Hey, let's see what happens. Speaking of
of newness in twenty twenty five, we got got a
new station. We do, yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We gotta think. We got to thank our friends at
KUGN in five ninety a M and Eugene.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Oregon k u g N Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yep, yeap, So tell well, so le'll tell them a
little bit about the show. Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, we like to hear from our our listeners, right,
and we try to base you know, we we we
we want folks to share tips. We want folks to
get involved, tell us what's good for them, what didn't
work for them, et cetera, et cetera. You know that
I've always said there's more than one way to garden,
and I have my opinion, and you know, we'll talk
about you know, that type of thing. But if you
if something has worked for our listeners, we like we
(04:18):
encourage them to give us a call and share that
with us. So we like interaction no matter where you are,
and it's it's a lot of folks say, well it's
kind of dumb, you know, or what I do is
kind of stupid. You might might no no, no, no no,
share that with us if it's worked for you or whatever,
let us know. It's very casual, very open.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Kind of like kind of like remember the old show
Home Improvement when Tim would always go over to Wilson
and talk over the We'll talk over to over the fence. Yeah,
now where your neighbor and say, hey, does that work
for you?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah? Yeah, very casual. Try to have a lot of
you know, a guest, a lot of good guests. It's
specialized in whatever. We try to bring up, books, new
books that are out there. I had a lot of
authors on and talk about that. So we try to
share as much great information as we can.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So I try to have a lot of fun and
you know, and welcome our listeners from Eugene, Oregon. Yea,
So if you're going to be the first first caller,
call in two three eight, two five fives the number
O k U G N five ninety Eugene.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Beautiful state. What a beautiful state.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, I'm sure in Oregon they do a lot of
a lot of things that are similar to what we
do here in the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well that you know that you see a lot of
plants that are in the local garden centers around here
around the United States period come out of Oregon and
they they they have some huge nurseries out there and
they're absolutely gorgeous, lots of knowledgeable people. Yeah, so you know,
we've we've been out there many I've only been out
there probably twice, but you know, it is a major
(05:46):
source for nursery plants.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So your first show of this twenty twenty five, who
are you going to have on today?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Today? We are going to have Genro's. We tried to
get around a couple of weeks ago with a b
cups and weren't able to connect. So she's gonna be
on with us this morning. She's out of Texas at
a really cool little idea that she's got. We're gonna
have Ron Rotha's on for the folks at kug n.
Ron is a certified master arbors. We talk a lot
about trees and tree care. He's also a hobby meteorologist
(06:15):
and he's really good at it, and so we're gonna
have him on this morning. We've got a big winter
blast coming at us here maybe tomorrow the next day.
Let us know what's going on there too. And he
looks at the country overall, but for our area as well.
So yeah, those are our two. Gary Sullivan who does
the home improvement nationally. He'll be on with us later
on in the show and share some home improvement tips. Yeah,
(06:37):
and of course you helped to kick it off, and
Danny Gleese and our producer you know, me and Dan
in between.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So what trends are you seeing for this year? Has
anything been announced like a plan of the year or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
There's we have all kinds of plants of the year
which we will start to go over here in another
couple of weeks, Perennial of the year, Hossa is a
year things like that, you know that. I think the
big trend out there right now continues is creating that
outdoor living space. You know that started many years ago
and it just continues on and living walls and living
ceilings and things like that. Just continue to be strong.
(07:14):
Backyard growing your own food and vegetables that's starting to big,
continues to get larger. Container gardening continues to get larger.
The color of the year is mocha moose, which is
a dark chocolate color. And it's amazing how many plants
because the green industries try to match up you know
(07:34):
what plants go with the color of the year. Pantones
color of the year, and it's amazing going to be
plants they have that are have they made maroonish or
dark brown foliage color or flower color to match along
with that. So we'll share all that as we go
along through the January and February as we get into
the spring gardening season. So we'll share that with everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, and for our friends in Eugen, Oregon, you have
a Facebook page we do it's in the garden with Ron,
and during the show there is an actual garden chat
room going on and a lot of people chime in.
So if you if you have a question and you
can't get through, or you're just unsure about geting under,
I get it because you know you're yep, you might
(08:15):
be scared or a little apprehensive about talking to someone
going to the chat room and put the question. There's
a lot of people in there, has got a lot
of good ideas. And Ron rothas who will be on
with us later. Typically he's always in there. He's always
holding court yep.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So that is on Facebook in the Garden with Ron Wilson,
and the website.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Is Ron Wilson online dot com.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And there's a couple posts there for twenty twenty five
as well. Rita Hikenfeld who's.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Our Surbalists CCP cmh Rberless Urbalist, cooking expert, which doctor
which doctor maker.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And a very very incredible cook and she has a
recipe of the week every week. So check out Rita's
recipe of the week and this week is mac and
cheese broccoli yep, and that looks incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'm not a big broccoli fan. I do like broccoli
when it's a coda with a little olive oil and
then bake it or broil it high temperature and get
a little crispy. I love it like that. But in
macaroni and cheese, I do like that. Yeah it looks good. Yeah,
so it's a good deal.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So Rita's mac and Cheese with broccoli is a recipe
of the week. And the plan of the week is
kind of goes along with what we're talking about with trends.
It is, you know, plant more trees, planting trees, and
it is the Morton's circle sycamore.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yep or exclamation is the way it is.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Exclamation. Why is it exclamation because it looks like an
exclamation because.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It looks like an exclamation point, although it's very columnar shaped.
But it's a sycamore tree and just an absolute wonderful tree.
I've been watching this thing for the last five six
seven years now. It's really some of them really starting
to get established and maturing and just phenomenal. But it
doesn't get it big and wide like the old sycamores,
(10:05):
much more like I say, this pyramidal shape and great
for a street tree, for your yard, whatever it may be.
It's very uh antrac nosed resistant, powery mildew resistant, and
it just it's a it's a bete and it's it's
called Exclamation. We'll talk more about it later in the show,
but it's one of those trees that you might want
to consider if you're looking for a little bit larger
(10:26):
tree for a street tree planting or in your yard.
But more than an upright type of fashion.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Very very cool. Yeah, and for our new listeners, uh now,
right now, he's he's taking the winter off, but you'll
be talking with Buggy Joe come here in the spring
and Buggy Joe Boggs and some a little bit in
the fall when he decides the show.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, we get and again it's all OSU extension
and and they share extension bulletins from all around the states.
So you know, he's he's just full of information about
insects and disease and other things, other things. We have
lots of fun with him.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, we had lots of fun. So so if you
want to call in, you know, it's it's it's fun.
It's very casual and you know, give us a call
and the phone lines are open. I'm looking at the
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Speaker 1 (11:18):
There you go. Is that it? That's it? All right,
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Speaker 1 (15:24):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. The
happy New Year twenty twenty five is here. Can't believe
it now the year slipped right on bias And yeah,
unfortunately I have been fighting this dog gone respiratory thing.
You can't stop coughing. And I know more people I
talked to Joe included Danny's been sick the last few days.
It stuff just rolling around and you just can't get
(15:45):
rid of it. You think you're done, and then all
of a sudden it pops right back up again. And
it's crazy stuff. So if you're out there and kind
of going through the same thing, I feel for you.
I tell you what I feel like. I've lost the
last four weeks of twenty twenty four trying to deal
with all this stuff. So anyway, looking forward to twenty
twenty five, lots of new plants on the horizon. I'm
(16:07):
telling you it just my head spins when I see
all of the new annuals and perennials, new shrubs being introduced,
new hydrangees that really makes your head spin being introduced
onto the market that have been trialed and tested and
doing well and it's just phenomenal. I'll tell you what,
(16:28):
gardeners today, you've it. You know, it's amazing what you
have to choose from compared to when I first started
in this industry forty plus, well fifty years ago, and
it's just unbelievable how that has changed. You know. Again,
(16:48):
it's like, how do you keep up with all? I
can't keep up with all of it. But obviously with
technology and all, we're able to learn more about these
plants and whatever. But you know, it's amazing and you
will be again surprise and twenty twenty five in the
spring when you go into your locally owned independent garden
centers and see what they're going to have for you
this year in annuals and perennials and shrubs. It's crazy.
(17:10):
We'll try to keep you updated as best we can
with a lot of these new varieties that are coming
on as well.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
In the meantime, Indiana, Matt, good morning, good.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Morning, Ron.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yes, sir, hey, i's calling in.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That's calling in the if I.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Could get a request, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
You've you've done the Cup of Joe for quite a
long time now, Yes, and It started out with talking
about as your heart and his garden and what was
going on. Yep, I want to know what's going on
with ron? A cup of.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Ron, a cup of run. That's good. I wouldn't yeah,
like what.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
What have you been doing? You know this week? What
you know, what's going on in the greenhouse industry and
things like that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Sure, I love it, I will will keep it. Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
If you could put that together, you know every week,
like what have you been doing at your home? And
what have you been doing at work? And different things
going on in the greenhouse industry. Way back when when
I had a small greenhouse, we were actually starting our
flower pots in January.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You know, absolutely some of those some of those harder
to get started plants, like the platoonias and things like that.
Getting started early. I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
We would do platunias, and it was just a lot
of work early on in January, and a lot of
people might not realize, you know that it's already starting up.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Ye who what was what was the name of your greenhouse?
Speaker 5 (18:36):
That is just a little family thing we had here. Okay,
you know we sold at farmers markets, got it. That's
that's that's going back quite a.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Way, right, But it's a lot of work, but it's
a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yes, it is. One tip I've got for everybody today
is it's a good time to be doing soil samples.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Absolutely about really and so many times, you know, we
talk about that on this show, but I think that's
one of those things that kind of just goes by
the wayside, Matt. You know, and I don't know that
you know, people feel like, well, I add some composts,
I fertilize every year, and you can do all that stuff,
but unless you have the soil test to know exactly
(19:18):
what's going on there, especially especially that pH level, a
lot of times what you do has doesn't do anything
at all, or you know, has no effect on those plants.
So you're right, great tip, great reminder, and we'll see
about putting together the couple run as well.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
All right, that'll be good. I'll be I'll be. I've
listened since you started that long ago, and I'll be
waiting to hear it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
All right, Matt, appreciate the input. I really do. And
you know I've had I've had a couple of folks say,
you know, you gotta talk about every week what you see
in flower around you, what you're doing right. And you're right.
And I write all these notes down for timely gardening
tips of things that folks should be doing. But you're right,
And I'll let you a little secret. Uh, As of today,
(20:04):
I am semi semi retired from my full time job.
Can you believe that I'm gonna be working part time?
That means I go from seventy hours to forty hours
a week, No, but cutting back so that will allow
me a little more time to start spending a little
more time in my own landscape and container gardening and
(20:24):
things like that as well. So looking forward to doing
that too. But and we're gonna continue doing this radio
show because it's so much fun. We have so much
fun talking with everybody and sharing tips and come up
with a cup of Ron, cup of Joe, the cup
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Speaker 1 (22:49):
Fulcome back having twenty twenty five. You're in the garden
with Ron Wilson, our toll free number eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five, looking forward to twenty
twenty five. Uh, you know, you got the new year
in front of us here. Now you've got the January
and February, and in most states, you know, we're all
dormant and kind of clearing up the game mother nature.
(23:10):
I always look at it as cleansing the palette, cleaning
the plate off, and getting us ready for our spring
of twenty twenty five. And I think it's I look
forward to it. And lots of new plants out there,
lots of great selections, and we're going to be here
to help walk you through to make hopefully make you
as successful as we can in your gardening endeavors. And uh,
you know the cup of run I like that. Danny
(23:32):
and I were talking over a break cup of Run,
Cup of Cup of the DURINGO, we'll have all kinds
of cups.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
On our show, Cup of Dick and Dayton.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Cup Dica Dating whole nine yards And in meantime, let's
go to Columbus, Ohio talk with Don.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Hey, how's it going, how's it going on? How happy
semi retirement?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah? There you thank you?
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Yeah. You walk for the same company of the whole time,
haven't you.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I have, I've been. That's kind of an unusual thing,
but same nursery for all these years.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Wow, worked it like working for the same business for
like what fifty years or something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, And you know what's interesting is it's it's family
owned and they're just a super nice family and just
a great place to work. And I always have loved
it there when I was in Columbus. When I went
to Ohio State, I did work there for a few
years at Slimmon's Garden Center and uh and worked there
with it in Columbus, so and I actually worked in
both places. I would go back and forth, so I
(24:26):
had experiences with other garden centers too. But the hell yeah,
but it's a it's been a it's been a great
experience I'm and I can't stop it, so I'm gonna
keep going. But you know that's why I say semi
retired at this stage.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Oh, nobody in this nobody in the horticulture industry, in
the green industry, I've retired. I've convinced we just we might,
you know, cut back, move on for something else. But
you know, in the same but we never fully retired.
I'm convinced.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, you're right. I always I read a saying one
time at the we uh it just kind of spayed away.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
Yeah, indeed, indeed indeed very cute. So you're talking about
the new plant variety.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yes, when I.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
First got started in this industry about thirty years ago,
there was a gentleman that told me this was back
when I lived in the UK, this is and he
told me that you never trust a tree, at least
that has been around for less than one hundred years,
because we don't really know whether it's going to do,
whether it's you know, what the resistance really is. And
you know how many of these new plants, you know,
(25:28):
I when I first came here, and if we call
the you know, the stella, the olia daily lea, the
pupe with the olia daily is they try to do
it and that thing I remember I planted some of
those and they pooped off for one year. And I'm
just very skeptical. How much are these plants really tested,
you know, before they go out all these new I
think there's almost a you know, because we live in
a hypocapitalist environment right now, we have plants. I think
(25:49):
there was an incentive to rush these things to market,
and some of them may not be quite tested and
ready for you know, prime time if you will.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
And you're right, and you know you can you can
only count on the plant. You know, hopefully the plant
breeders have done their trials and done their trial gardens
and done their testing so that when this plant comes out,
you know, even proven winners will tell you that even
though the plant is labeled as a proven winner, it
may not work in every you know, all around the
United States. It may only work in some zones. So
(26:16):
you get a situation like that where it's you know,
a highly marketed plant as a proven winner or whatever
it may be, but it may not work in your area.
And you know, we've seen some duds come through with
especially hydrangees. You know, they're just they're just turning tridranges
out all the time. I just shake my head, guy,
I can't take any more of these hydrangeas.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And some have been a bust for you know, some areas.
In some areas they did okay, So yeah, that's going
to happen on the market, I think with with annuals
and perennials. You know, obviously that's a quicker turnaround. Developing
new plants. Trees obviously take time. You got to watch
them grow and mature. And you're right, you know that.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
That because I'm skeptical of these elms, the new albums
they have, are they really going to be resistant to
Dutch elm disease? I mean, look at the ornamental pairs
we were told sixty years ago they'll never you know,
pollinate and long behold. I have actually gone down on
the walk in the side of the river with my
wife ver Is about a couple of months ago, and
I kid you not, there was a there one of
(27:19):
the invasive ornamental pairs, and then had a pair on
it roughly the size of I would say, uh quota,
you know, maybe a little bit bigger, but you know,
I mean yeah, so I mean it's It's always makes
me wonder because and that's because you know, we kept
trying to develop new and new varieties, and you know,
we always have we have to have the new and
new and new, and sometimes you know, we don't always
(27:39):
know what we're doing new. Yeah, yeah, you know, there
could be long term ramifications to the environment.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Thus, thus the uh you know another I guess another
plug for planting native plants that have been growing in
the area for many, many years. And obviously uh that
you know, you know down the road that you know
native plants, what they have done over all of these
years in your area. So you know that's that's a
I guess another plus for planting natives. But you're right,
(28:05):
and again that pair, I still think back of that.
You know, when I first started the fifty years ago,
that's when a Bradford pear and Aristocrat pair were first
introduced into the market. And those things. We sold thousands
of those every year. I mean, it was it's the
perfect tree. It grew, you know, it grew anywhere it
was you know, it was a soldier. It looked like
it was all. They all grew the same, the white flowers,
(28:28):
and it was sold as a fruitless ornamental pair. That's
the way we sold it. And well, you know, things change,
and of course what happened happened, and and through all
the cross pollination on next thing, you know, we've got
them producing fruit that's viable. So yeah, it's it was
actually a.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Lady at the university. I'm sorry right now, I was.
I say, there was a lady at the University of
Cincinnati that actually done all kinds of research and history
in that. Now, it's because we started developing new varieties. Yeah,
and you had enough genetic variation that you know, the
it's dot setting fruit and so it's cross pollinated.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yep. As a matter of fact, there was a there
were two that were more of a dwarf. I think
they were called Jack and Jill. And yeah, and I
think that one had something, you know, if it did
develop fruit, it was a little bit larger than normal.
So you're right. Uh, they do push a lot of
plants to get them out on the market as quick
as they can, and not all of them are are good.
Some of them are robust, and again I say that's
(29:25):
a Donnett's probably another one of the pluses in the
planting native trees and shrubs.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, have a have a happy
new Year and take cat.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Thanks Don, good talking with you. And before we take
a break, Dick from Dayton. Good morning, Dick, good morning.
How are you.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
It's not a good day?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Uh oh, what's wrong?
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Oh? I was telling Jerry Jeff this morning. I got
a letter from Columba. Somebody uh where I went to
get my physical said something to the bureau and it
was a it had hurt my feelings. But I'll be okay, Ron,
It's okay, I'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
Yeah, it's it's it's just it's something that I have
to work it out. You know. I don't want to
mention anybody, you know, like Jerry Jeff, but I'm a
strong person.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You know you are.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
But I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And you got a lot of well you got a
lot of support behind you, Dick. We're all behind you.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Yeah, I just wanted to say, go Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
How about those Buck guys?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Huh yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:33):
And you know what, how about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
How about him? You know, every time they keep winning,
I keep thinking, boy, Dick's Dick's gotta be excited.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Now, hey, uh, you know it's just bad though. You know,
I feel so sorry they got a straight and get
get a new coach and they got I say, Howard
had come back or Bernie Cozar, but the Browns just
went down downward, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, I don't know what happened there. That just kind
of fell apart, and unfortunately it keeps handling.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Ryan dazy hero. He's gonna win next week too. You'll watch.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I tell you what. If they played like they have
the last two games, they could take it all the way.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Yeah that sounds okay though.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, you sound good and you stay positive, Okay, keep smiling.
Don't forget me. We're all behind you.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Ronny asks what my friend said. Ron I talked to him, Dick,
you have done my friend told me, Dick, my so person.
And don't let somebody get you down. When you talk
to people, don't mention who did it because you mentioned
the business, No do don't.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Nope. I just puts you. That puts you at their level.
If you do that, so you'll you'll talk to you
all right, don't forget we're behind you all the way.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, Dick, good talking with a quick break. We
come back talking more about yardening here at eight hundred
and eight two three eight two five five. Here in
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We are talking yardening at eight hundred and eight two
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Ron Wilson And usually on Saturday mornings, there's some folks
on there that kind of chat back and forth, so
be sure and check that out. Last. Doctor Ze'll get
in there occasionally too. Oh yeah, doctor z ewel jump
in there. And then you see who we always blame
(34:14):
any of the things that need to be changed, we
blame on doctor Z in Washington, all.
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My tech issues, doctor Z's fault.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
All doctor Z's problem, all his fault. By the way,
last week and we always have our plant of the week,
and the last week, I guess I could throw that
into a cup of run. Yeah, because I pick a
plan every week. But last week was the rosemary plant.
And uh, this time of the year, and I'm not
a you know what, I have never been a rosemary fan.
(34:42):
Using it and cooking. Although I've gotten more and more used.
I used to kid with Rita Hikenfeld to say, I
don't like chewing on pine needles, and that's kind of
the flavor you get out of it. But you know,
it's it used an awful lot and so many different things,
and so rosemary is an extremely popular herb to be growing.
And the thing that's interesting about rosemary is that it
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really tolerates pretty cold temperatures. The problem is it can't
tolerate it for a long period of time. So if
you're like in our zone where it's a six A
six B, and we get into the fall season and
you start dropping down into the upper thirties mid thirties,
if it drops down overnight and goes right back up
the next day, they'll tolerate that. It's no problem. As
a matter of fact, I've left those things out as
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a sacrificial lamb to see how long it would last
until it really got consistently cold, and then you can
see it start to decline, but you know, dipping up
and down like that. They can tolerate it. But once
the temperatures get into the thirties low thirties, consistently, more consistently,
it's time to bring that thing back indoors and overwinter
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it and then take it back outside in the summer
or you know, late spring, through the summer and into
the fall again. The problem when you bring rosemary inside,
and some folks have really good success with it, and
some folks don't. But when you bring a rosemary plant indoors,
the three basic things, which is true with all plants,
but this is really important with rosemary. And as Rita
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would say, she obviously because of the name, wants as
much bright light as possible. So if you can give
it full sun, extremely blight bright lighter as much less,
like six to eight hours if you can. It's like
off a south window is absolutely wonderful. If it's off
of an east or west window where it would get
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two or three hours of direct sun, you may have
to supplement with a grow light, and that's easily done.
And when you have in an area like that, you
want to continue to rotate it so all the sides
get equal sunlight. So every week or so you'd keep
turning that thing around so you get equal sunlight. That
is top of the list, all right. Good drainage, super
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important With rosemary, they like to stay on the dryer side.
Think about it, a Mediterranean plant. They like to stay
on the dryer side. But and it contains. When you water,
you give it a good soaking and then you make
sure that soil drains well. You let the soil get
really dry out, just close to just totally dry, and
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then you soak it again. But make sure it's close
to totally dry before you water it again. And when
you do water, don't forget. And this is true for
all houseplants, anything you're growing inside. Use lukewarm to warm water,
don't use cold water. They actually respond better to lukewarm
to warm water when watering. Okay, so keep that in mind.
And you know, again, make sure it doesn't stay totally
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dry too long before watering again. So not too dry
for long period, not too wet for long period. And
it's really picky about that. And the third thing would
be good air circulation. I have found where they sit
in an area where it just doesn't get good air circulation.
Air doesn't seem to move, It gets powdery mildew very easily,
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and it can week in the plant, maybe even kill
the plant. So in some cases, if you don't have
good air movement. You may want to get one of
those small fans that like clip onto the side of
a table or whatever, set it up away from it,
just so air is moving around the plants. And actually
that's a good idea for a lot of plants indoors,
especially a little bit later on when you start, if
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you're into starting your own seedlings, you know, tomatoes and
peppers and all that kind of stuff indoors, having air
circulation around those plants is extremely important if you go
into grower's greenhouse, Like if you're in our greenhouses right now,
up in the top and those in the peaks, you
would see at rafter level the beams going across small fans,
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not very big, small fans all pushing one direction, and
then the next one pushing another direction, and another one
the next one they're pushing another direction, so that they're
moving the air all the time. Constant air movement, and
that's very very important with a lot of indoor plants
as well, especially rosemary. And if you don't, all of
a sudden, you'll start to see her get powdery mildew.
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Sometimes they start she tries to turn black on the inside.
Not a good thing. And if she does, don't panic,
all right, clean all that stuff out of there. You
can use a little bit of a horticultural oil, you know,
it is some type of fun just side that has
powdery mildew listed to get it into check and then
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go from there. But very very important. So those are
the three best things. And actually when you're indoors they
grow better. Rosemary does better at cooler temperatures rather than
the warmer temperatures. The secondicidal soap sicasius she and the
aphens or anything show up on them. Otherwise not a
heavy feeder. I wouldn't do any feeding to it. Just
gotta go let it limp through the winter and if
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it puts out new growth, and they will, they'll shoot
out a little new growth there here and there. That's
what you want to clip off and use over the winter.
So just keep your harvest very simple and and just
try removing that newer growth until we get back into
the spring and you can put it back outside. Rita
has found we had a contest many years ago. We
joke about it all the time. I went and bought
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because you find the rosemary being sold at the places
that sell Christmas plants in a pyramidal shape like a
Christmas tree, and very cool and great for the holiday season.
You put little balls on or whatever and put it
in the kitchen or whatever and grow your rosemary for
the holidays. And one year we always cad about the
you know, growing herbs and that, and I went and
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bought two of them and gave her one, kept one myself,
and the contest was to see who could get theirs
to overwinter the best. Well. She their house, even though
it has good lighting, is heated mostly by wood, so
it's a very dry air and lack of humidity, lack
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of sunlight, whatever. It didn't last very long in their house.
Mine lasted longer, and I was able to keep it longer,
but all of a sudden I started getting a little
bit of mildew on the inside and I couldn't stop it.
And next thing I knew, mine look pretty darn pat
and I wound up pitching it out. Probably could have
revived it if I held onto it, but I pitched
it out, so we both kind of lost. So, you know,
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keep that in mind. But what she has found over
the years overwintering, and she has some nice ones in
some larger containers, is to put them in an unheated
garage or shed, and like I said, they can take
the colder, cooler temperature down into the thirties. So if
you have an unheated garage that stays fairly, you know,
fairly consistently, you know, above freezing or so, and it
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doesn't dip down there very much, rosemary can actually be
overwintered in an unheated garage near a sunny window, give
it a little bit of sunlight and do quite well.
She says she's had very very very good success over
wintering in her unheated garage. You'll keep that in mind
when it comes to rosemary. One last thing. They do
like to breathe, and a lot of times you'll find
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rosemary obviously being sold in plastic pots. Reason obviously costs
light weight, et cetera, et cetera, so they're usually sold
in plastic pots. Obviously, plastic pots don't breathe, and so
you'll see a lot of folks that are successful with
carrying a rosemary plant year after year after year, actually
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transplanting them into a terra cotta pot. The clay pots
that breathes more it it has better air circulation. They
dry out faster. That's one of the downfalls of using
clay pots, and they're heavier, but the little added weight
with when your rosemary, if it gets some size to
it on the top. Same way with amarillis, you know,
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using like a squat azalea pot where they're not quite
so deep but wide. Those are excellent for amarillis, but
great for that rosemary plant so it doesn't tip over.
So the added weight of the terra cotta pot actually
helps you out and it breeds a little bit better,
and it does stay wet quite as long. One of
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the pros and cons to using plastic, which I prop
about everything I crow hit outside is the plastic, except
for some porcelain pots or ceramic pods. But you know,
that's kind of the one of the pros and cons
of using plastic is that it doesn't dry out quite
as much, holds water a little bit more, which is
a real benefit in some situation. Excuse me. So there
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we go, all right, first hour under our belt. Coming
up in our next hour at the bottom of the hour,
we're going to talk to Ron Rothice. Got a big
major storm coming up in our area all across the
United States. Actually, he's going to give us an update
on that when we'll talk about some tree issues as well.
Then at the top of the hour we're going to
talk with Jen Rose, the inventor of b cups. B cups.
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