Ron Wilson 2/22/2025 Hour 1

Ron is back taking your calls, questions and with his expert tips.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about yardning,
saying pretty close to he's saying goodbye to the month
of February, getting there right there, another week or so,
we're out of here and into the first of March.
What he said, we nick off our show with a
company Joe mister Joe Strecker, our executive producer. Find out
what's going on in our website at Ron Wilson online
dot com Facebook page in the garden.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
With Ron Wilson.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Notice I don't ever say his law and landscape, because
nothing's going on in as long landscape. Hope it's because
there's there's not a little bit of snow left on
it yet, but it won't be in a couple more days.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Nope. Good morning, sir. I was Columbus last week.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Uh, the Home of Garden show was great. We are
booth that we were in was just on the other
aisle of the gardens. So we looked into the gardens
and uh smelled like spring, smelled like maulch and hyacinths
and tulips and daffodils.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And signed any autographs.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Uh, you cracked me up.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I guess that's a no I did. That's why I'm laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
People say that, they said, can you sign this for me?
I'm like, are you serious? Okay, right, they said, no,
I'm serious. You signed it. Ron Wilson, you sign it.
Jus Strucker, I signed it. Gary Sullivan. Now it's worthless.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I had a two or three people that did that.
It kind of embarrasses me. I'm not I don't. I'm
not right. A few pictures. That embarrasses me too. Yeah, yeah,
that's not me. Yeah it happens. But anyway, it happens
all the time, I guess. But yeah, it was great
to be there. It was fun walking through him be
in the Home Guarden Show for a while. We hadn't
been up there for a couple of years. And of

(02:14):
course Cincinnati's is out for a while. Right, So what's
the big what's the big trend? Same old same?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know that the screening we talk about screening and
that with ourrovitis that's still I mean they all screen
themselves off with it with evergreens.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's still in. Bringing the inside outside is that still
that's still hot? I mean, you know, loutdoor living areas.
I think about that for twenty years.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well, you know what, Gary and I were talking a
couple of weeks ago about, you know, trends that are
coming on. I said, you know, if you look back
twenty years ago at the Home of Garden Show, we
used to be down there and the big thing was
we were shooting our segments TV and all that kind
of stuff, and you know what were the trends. I
remember when when the out bringing the outside indoors, outside
outdoors was you could really start to feel that that
was like, that was the big bus. It's never stopped.

(02:55):
It's that's what's continued on. And you know I it's
just yeah, that's that continues to be the big thing.
Fountains still continue, water still intrigues a lot of people.
What was interesting about the gardens up there is that
there were nine gardens and they all picked an individual
insect or pet or something onomas for dogs, which had

(03:16):
the docks and for a theme by the way, and
they had a fire hydrant as the center of the fountain.
So there was this waterless fountain thing and the fire
hydrant was the fountain.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So did anyone pick the easing Lady beetle or the
No No Praying Mannis was one, and mushrooms was one
and just I don't know it.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
It was pretty interesting the way they did it, but
they were pretty cool. They do it. They do a
really good job. They're true gardens that you wind walk through,
come out one and go across and go into another one,
so you kind of get there, you know, back and
forth and very nice. So yeah, it's always fun going
up there. And that's in a separate building from the
rest of the The bricker building is where they have

(03:59):
the home garden shows Home Improvement, and then the armory
right next to it is where they had all the
gardens and all the garden booths. Cool, so they're kind
of separated. So and it had special parking. I got
to park in the sheep barn.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Ooh fun.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's right next to Ryan Day right, it's like you're
pulled a sheep bar. I'm like, okay, that's good. But
it was kind of sleeping and raining and spicing and
all that.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
They got to take care of their celebrities.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well it was I don't know who all got the
parking there, but I got to and that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Cool. So it was fun. I enjoyed it. I always
always have fun with those. So can you believe it's
almost already two months yew and the two months in,
we're already two months in. Man, You and I go
you know what, You and I go through.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
This in January, February, first of March, right, and then
it all flies as we go through the spring and summer, right,
and then also we get the Labor Day weekend and
what's our topic go to? Then it's all going to
happen here very shortly because next thing you know, it's
going to be Halloween, and then the burmants, you know, yeah,
and it's just if they fly by again, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, yep. Are you looking forward to next week? Am
I looking for the next week? Yeah? Sure?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
The snow will be gone. Forty degree temperatures, a little
bit of rain in the middle. We'll see, We'll see
it's forty going to be in the forties every day,
in twenties at night. I'm just there's a rain in
the middle. I have had such winter blogs this year.
It's it's more than usual. But it's just, you know
what's interesting. I think if people around here they like

(05:29):
the snow, especially when you first get it. But I
sent an email out this week about the springs right
around the corner, and I sent that to a lot
of people, and most of people have responded back to me.
Came back and said, I am so sick of the
cold and snow.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I think I respunded to you with a hand gesture.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
You did as a matter of fact, of the cold
and snow that I cannot I'm seriously and done with
all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Now. I don't mind the snow. I can't believe I
just said that I wouldn't mind this choke. And if
it's the thirties, but when it's in the below zeros
and it's just arctic and cold and nasty, and that
is and then and then the snow turns to ice,
and let's see, I'm just opposite. I hate that.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
If it's in the teens and it's cold and snowy,
I'm not cold. If it's in the upper twenties and
thirties and it's snowing and all that and it's wet,
I freeze to death. That goes right through my bones.
It's because you're old, and there you have it. But
if it's a good crisp cold I could go outside
with just my shirt on them.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, yeah, if it's if it's anything below in the
in the low twenties, teens, and that's up. No now,
I said, But you do get tired of that every time,
you know, with all the bad weather. I just thought
to myself, just one step close to the Arizona, one
step another, nailing that coffin.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think that's what makes me like the four seasons
so much, because you finally get to the point where, okay,
I'm done. I mean, if it's been a hot summer,
you finally at the point where said I'm done, and
then when the next season comes, you're so happy when
fall finally gets there and it's cool. You're still happy
in the spring when it finally gets there in the warms.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Watch the spring training reports on the on the news
and seeing the reporters and short sleeves, I'm just like dang.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I realized I was watching to do a day a
picture catcher thing yesterday. They've got they have coverings over
where the catcher's squat and where the pictures throw, and
I guess they do that so you could actually do
that in the rain in case it would be rainy,
because I mean, you've got a train while you're there,
right right, But they're covered, Both of them are covered
with a short roof system, so you're in the shade

(07:37):
and there's a you know, it's wide opening between them.
But I thought that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I like, there's gotta be some reason behind it,
because yeah, I like to go there some research. That's yeah,
a blast. That's why I want to end up. Who
do we have today on the show. We have multiple
guests today. I know Rita is one of them.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Rina's going to be on today because it's her day
for talking about herbs, cilantro. She's going to talk about cilantro.
How'd you know that? Because you're the executive producer.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
And I read the email the eco.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Hi, Yeah, we're going to buy her recipe and cilantro,
which I mean talk about something that's hot and everybody
wants to grow not hot in flavor, but hot popularity.
Rick Bickling is going to join us. This is the
third or fourth edition of Square Foot Gardening. And if
you remember, back when this show first started, you and me,
we had mel Bartholomew on, who was the original square

(08:31):
foot Gardener, was on our show talking about his book,
and I think I still have that one when he
signed it. This is like the fourth edition he passed
away several years ago. But he needs to keep improving
in and updating and all the time. So this is
the newest edition. So he's going to be on talking
about that. Just Tina Block's going to join us this morning.
She's going to osme a Bee Company. They have a
webinar coming up next week. She wants to invite everybody

(08:51):
to come and watch. It's about pollinators and the native beast.
So we'll talk about that as well. That was aescape, right,
Uh do what was that beescape?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
No? Okay, but that's okay, okay. What was her name?
Do you give me that? What's the organization?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
She is osme a Bee Company and the other one's
Pollinator Partners. So but that that's coming up next week
and she's inviting every its free. It's a really cool webinar,
so she'll she'll talk about that as well. Of course
you're on. Danny's on in between and me as well,
and then Gary Sullivan And you know what, I got
a funny feeling, buggy Joe may be kind of itching
to get back here sing about usual.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
We'll see so we'll see what happens there too. Another
website is Ron Wilson Online dot com, followed by the
Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson. And the
reason I mentioned that is because there's a posting this
week from an organization called Beescape, and uh, that's really interesting.
It's it's talking about bees. It's time to get ready

(09:50):
to get ready for the bees. Is the Beescape?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Is that the one where you can find out what
what's the background or the kind of flowers you have
in your guard?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, that was put together by Tennessee whatever. I don't
remember exactly, but it's really flanks. You go to, you
put in your zip code where you live, and it
shows you what's in your area as far as pollinator plants,
uh pollinators are there. It's it's a pretty cool link
just to get a feel for what's going on in
your neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yep, there's a couple of uh of uh tip sheets
this week from the Buckeye Yard and Garden line. Uh
so we got that posted. Uh. The recipe of the week,
which we will talk about with Rita is Huevos rancheros
a lot of cilantro and huevos rancheros love Mexican food.

(10:41):
I do too. It's like it's like barbecue Mexican food.
It's like one one A I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I like hamburgers. One of the Mexican you know what.
One of the Mexican restaurants we go to has one
called a Guaca burger really and it's got guaca and
chipotle mayo and stuff like that. So it's a kind
of a Hispanic burger, Mexican burger, but it's outstanding. So
because I'm a burger lover too, I could eat. I

(11:10):
could eat, you know, burritos all day long. Yeah, just
it's something about them.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah. So the plant of the week this week is
witch hazel, which hazel which one I know, there's like
a couple of them on the whole bunch of them
on the post there.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
We picked woodchazel this week because it's one of the
first flowering shrubs to flower in the late winter, and
I got a feeling with the weather breaking next week
and getting up into the forties, we're gonna start with
see seeing witch hazel of several selections species starting to
open up for us next week. And as they do.
It's you get a day of forty five fifty degrees
and the bees actually come out of the hives. They

(11:46):
will go to wooch hazel for a little source of
pollen and nectar. So and they're pretty cool. It's a
great plant way and are using the landscape and many
different choices as far as species and then selections within
the species.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And species is hamamelus mam lass.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
You're right, amelas, that's good, and then the different species
that are at right. So yeah, so check it out
and there you'll be. It's amazing. It's quite a good selection.
But it's a pretty cool, very very early bloomer, nice shrub,
pretty cool. I used to have one of spalet on
a fence. It was gorgeous, pretty cool. Huh huh. So
amazing how people say that to day and you and

(12:23):
I started saying that four years we've been we've been
used to make fun of me for saying that we
are tres definitely trendsetters. When you feel like in the
dictionary there's not a picture of Joe's trekker, not even right.
All right, Well it's it, I'm gonna head on out,
all right, And I bet you're going to get a

(12:44):
burrito on the way home.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Definitely a breakfast burrito on the way back. M maybe two, two,
maybe three, maybe two, maybe a hash brown or two,
A drink and a drink. Joe Strecker are executive produced.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
If you like what we see on our website, Ron
Wilson Online dot com Facebook page. In the Garden with
Ron Wilson, Well, mister Strucker had everything to do with it.
Bible he speaking to mister Strecker. Do you have a
great birthday? Yes he did, good, Yes he did. Do
you enjoy his party?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It was? It was an interesting party. Good. I mean,
he's at that age where he can just he just
shuts it off. So we had everyboys having a great time.
He showed up well, you know, we had the party
planned for my dad in the early evening. So it
was about five, six o'clock, and everyone showed up and
everyone's having a good time, eating cake and just kind

(13:33):
of just talking and everything. Eight o'clock my dad gets
up and says, hey, it's been a great party, guys,
I'm out there. You go, and then he leaves. It's like, okay,
I guess we're done. We can party. Can keep going.
We we just kind of folded up all the chairs,
put the food away. I love it a belt. So yeah,

(13:54):
when you're eighty nine, he can do whatever. You can do,
whatever in the world you want to do. Yep, got it,
I understand.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Anyway, Wait if I if you like what you see
on our website, that's Joe Strecker had everything to do
with it. If you see something here you don't like,
think it should be changed, not sure about it, don't
blame Joe. Blame doctor Z. Let's all blame doctor Z.
In Washington, d C. Garden eighty three. He's in Garden
eighty three, rocking around on his vesta, riding around on
his vesta that was running back bow bow bow, and

(14:21):
still the rocket in his pocket. The rocket in his pocket.
T talk, doctor Z, TikTok, doctor Z. We need to
get her on the show. I'm serious. Somehow I got
to figure out how to do that. Yeah, you're the Hey,
you're the one that's always good at finding out how
to get important people on the shows. I'll try, okay.

(14:41):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five Here
in the garden with Ron Wilson, Joe Strecker and the
Durango kid.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
How is your garden rolling?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Talk you're listening to in the garden with Ron Wilson.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
When you're planning your new plants this spring. Remember it's
all about the roots. Hi, Ron Wilson.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Here.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
When you're planning those new plants this spring, here's what
you need to use. Use Fertil Roots Stimulator and Plant
Starter solution for everything you plant trees, shrubs, ornamentals and flowers.
This mild starter fertilizer has an actual rooting hormone to
help stimulate new growth. Now you make three applications ten
to fourteen days apart and get up to thirty three

(15:39):
percent more roots. More roots means summer heartiness, increase drought tolerance,
and less insect and fungal issues. Fertil Roots Stimulator and
Plant Starter Solution also helps to reduce transplant shock and
promotes greener, more vigorous plants. Get your plants started out
the right way so you can enjoy its beauty sooner
and longer. Ask for Furtil and Roots to mulet and

(16:00):
Plant Starter solution at your favorite local independent nursery garden center.
Her Hardware store or find a dealer near you at
furtlome dot com. That's furn Loom, roots stimulator and plant
starter solution.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Well, the holidays are over, but germs and viruses they're
still hanging around. Protect your family with Jaws Disinfecting Cleaner.
Jaws kills ninety nine point nine percent of the viruses
and bacteria, including the covid virus. Powerful cleaning and disinfecting
all on one step. Plus jaws reusable spray balls are
concentrated refill pods and protects the environment. Make your home

(16:32):
healthier today. Order Jaws Disinfecting Cleaner. That's Jaws cleans dot
com jawscleans dot com. Because a clean home is a
safe home, get a grip make your home safer and
more beautiful. Add track Safe Anti slipcolor code to ugly
blotchy floor surfaces, then top it off with award winning
track Safe Anti Slip sealer. Renew concrete, stone and prepainted

(16:54):
surfaces with these easy to apply products from disch Codings.
Great for both inside and outdoors. Track Safe products deliver
aggressive anti slip performance with all weather durability. Get on
track and order products today with free shipping from the
home depot Lows or dish Codings dot com. That's d
A I C. H.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
Coatings dot Com talking to your arguing at eight hundred

(18:12):
eight two three eight two five five.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Good morning. I am Ron Wilson. We are seeing a
some relief finally in the weather starting today, and uh,
we're gonna see the ground again. It's gonna turn green
out there. Uh, and I tell you what it's gonna
everybody's just gonna bust out. I have never seen and
again I said, I'm talking with this with Joe, but
I've never seen so many people that have just said,

(18:35):
you know, I am I enjoy the snow, I enjoy
the cold weather, but I'm done.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I've had it. I was one of those that responded
to you.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
And Danny Gleeson, Yeah you responded, but I put this
email out dog the last week and about springs right
around the corner, and I mean one hundred percent everybody
was like, I am ready, get this stuff out of
here and let's move forward. So yeah, I think next
week everybody's gonna start popping. And remember what I told you.
I've been telling you for the last month and a half.

(19:03):
If you need professional landscape design and installation, you better
be calling the landscape firms right now and getting your
name on the list, because if you don't, I guarantee
that next week when the weather starts to get into
the forties and fifties every day and the snow goes away,

(19:25):
and now you get a chance to get out there
and really start looking at the landscape, realizing that March
is only a week away, a week away, that you're
going to be saying, I wish when I'm playing a
few trees here, remember how hot it was. We're in
a little screening over there. I'd like to screen out
those neighbors because they never close their blinds over there.
I'd really love to get that done this year. Well,
you better get you know, get off the pot, so

(19:47):
to speak, and get your name in there, because if
you don't, I guarantee you, all of a sudden, this
is going to get crazy. I answer the emails both
for our radio show and for where I work, and
the emails are basically doubled this past week. People are
looking ahead seeing that now all of a sudden, the
weather's gonna start changing. It's happening, and you know, from
that point forward, I got a funny feeling you know

(20:09):
we're still gonna see the cold dips or whatever, but
I got a feeling we're gonna just keep cruising and
go right on into the spring season. We are gonna
go to the spring season no matter what it does.
But I think weatherway I start to break, so that
that just starts to get the adrenaline going, the spring
adrenaline and things you need to get done.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So get your.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Plans in place, get your lists in place. Randy days,
what can you do on those days? Nice days? What
can you do on those days? And if you need
that professional help installation design, get on it now or forever.
Hold your peace, because I guarantee you after a couple
more weeks you ain't gonna get on the list. All right,
quick break, We come back right to the gardening phone
lines at eight hundred eight two three, eight two five five.

(20:47):
Here in the garden, Ron Wilson.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Screen time or not.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eight two three talk.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
This is in the garden with Rod Wilson.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
So if you're tired of scrubbing your shower, you need
wet and forget weekly shower cleaner. Gary Sulvan here, spray
it on today and rinse tomorrow once a week.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Spray it on.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
All your tub and shower surfaces, even glass doors. The
next day, simply rinse clean with wet and forgets shower.
You can breathe easy because there's no harsh fumes and
no scrubbing make cleaning easy. Pick up wet and forget
shower at home. Depot Low's Menards, meer Ace or visit
weddinforget dot com to find a.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Store near you.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Well, here's an idea. Make your coming winter fun and
easier to deal with by picking up a can or
two of Blaster Industrial Strengths silicon lubricin. It's perfect for
snowshovels and snow blurs. Keep snow from sticking and clogging.
Use it on your car door and window gaskets to
keep them from sticking, and hey, sleds go super fast too.
It reduces friction while preventing rust. Enjoy this winter and

(22:11):
grab some Blaster Industrial Strengths Silicon lubricn at a home
out of our hardware store near you and always use
Blaster products and work it like a pro.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson Again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five to the yarding phone lines. We shall
go Tom and Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Tom. Good morning, Good morning Ron. How are you Tom?

Speaker 8 (23:17):
I'm done great?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Good.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
My question for you is last fall I put down
about twenty yards of new top soil in my backyard.
I redid my backyard and I planted the Kentucky bluegrass.
All of it hasn't gone actually grown a lot of

(23:38):
it has. About eighty percent of my backyard has got
grass new grass last year. But I called a couple
people to do the weed, you know, control the weeds.
This year, they're telling me that I want to plant
new grass sea to fill in the spots that didn't

(24:01):
do it right. And listening to your show, I was
always told don't plant new grass seed and put the
crab grass pre emergent. So now I'm confused since I
got new grass in there, but it's it's mixed up
with weeds and I got bear spots and I want
to start planting as early as possible. Won't that come

(24:25):
kill the new seed if they put the pre emergentt down.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yes, unless you know, if they came in later in
the year, later in the spring season and used a
product called Tenacity. That is a possibility, but they would
they would have to work around that and get the
timing right. But yes, most of the pre emergent oversize
that the long care companies put down in the springtime,
most of them have like pre diamine that lasts a

(24:50):
long time. We'll also take out any grass seed. And
you know the thing of it is, tom you still
may have some of that blue grass seed that's still
lying there that may still come up yet this spring.
So be cautious as far as overseeding, not to put
it down too heavy because you may still have a
little bit left over. But again, now and next week's
will be a great time to do this. But yeah,

(25:10):
you're right, it would. It would take care of that.
So make sure you tell them that you're gonna put it,
that you're putting it down, that it's there, and not
to use the pre emergent. Now, there is a product
on the market for homeowners that Scott's makes. It's their
Step one and it's called Step one for Seeding. For seeding,
it's a starter lawn food and wheat preventer and and

(25:32):
it's a pre emergent that allows the grass seed to
come up, but it does not It allows the grass
seed to come up, but it does not stop those
grass seeds. But it does take care of crag grass
in others and it doesn't last very long. It's about
a forty five day or the chemical that's in that
is also the chemical that I just mentioned in that tenacity.

(25:53):
So you know, lawn care companies can work that in
with you, but they advotacy to not do that because
it's not a hundred one hundred percent and and you
know you're gonna get some weeds that are still gonna
pop up. But it does help. So if you want
to do that yourself, that's scott Step one for starters.
A seed starter is is what that is. And again
you would you wouldn't put that down until you get

(26:15):
into mid to late March, until the weather gets close
to the of where the crab grass is gonna start
to germinate and grow, and then you put it down.
At that point it'll give your new grass a feeding.
You'll give those grass seeds a feeding and give you
about forty five day protection and then it's it's done.
And then you can come back in and put a
regular pre Emerson back down and last year through the

(26:36):
rest of the season. But that's Scott's step one for seed.
But the chemical that's in there is the same chemical
in a very lower percentage that's uh tenacity is made
out of. So it gets very complicated. But they don't
like to get into that, and I get it because
you know it's not one hundred percent. You're still gonna
get a few things pop up here and there. You know,

(26:57):
you can't spot treat the weeds until everything's up and
you moted about three times. So anything that's already growing,
this pre emergent doesn't do you any good. Now tenacity
would a little bit, but yeah, the pre emerging doesn't
do you any good on that.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's only for seeds, right.

Speaker 8 (27:13):
I tried to use that I have tenacity, and I
used it last year. It seemed like it worked, but
it just it just seems like I'm having more of
a hard time controlling the weeds. But I put the
tenacity down, it would kill it, but then other weeds
would come by. It worked, right, It just seems like
I was constantly using that about every month or month

(27:34):
and a half. I was putting a new tythnacity, So
I thought, all right, I'm just gonna let somebody else
do it. And they want to start March fifteenth, and
I'm like, that's gonna I'm just thinking it's going to
kill the new grass that I want to grow in
the back.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, it would, I mean, depending on what they use.
And so you know, you got to check with them
and say, Okay, so what are you gonna put down
because I do have new grass seed that I just
put down there, you know, two weeks ago, and I
need to make sure we protect that. So what are
you gonna use to work around that? And make sure
you clear that with them? But it is possible. But
that tenacity, you know, can give your pre immersion and

(28:08):
post immersion control. So that's the good thing about it.
But I think once you get this lawn going and
it starts to fill in, as we all know, a
good thick lawn really is your best defense with against
most weeds. And I think once you get that, because
think about what you've done. You know, you brought in
new top soil probably had some weeds in it, it's
been open, it's bare, the grass seeds growing, you still

(28:30):
have open spots. It's ideal for weeds to just keep
popping and popping and popping until you finally get that
filled in nice and thick, and then hopefully, you know,
you'll be starting to cut back and only spot treat
rather than treating the whole lawn, you know, another year
or two down the road.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
Okay, So real quick, you think I should just wait
a little bit instead of putting new sea because the
old sea that I put in November or late October
because we were still warm, grew. You're thinking some of
it may not germinate it, so I shouldn't put any
seeds down right away.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
No, no, no, I'd still do it, And now's a
good time to do it. What I'm saying is, don't
don't do maybe not do the full rate. So if
it's you know, four pounds per thousand square feet, maybe
do two to three pounds perth go a little bit
lighter than you normally would, just to be sure you
don't wind up overseeding.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
Okay, and then hold off on the pre emergent and
least get the grass starting and to grow.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
F Yeah, get the grass down first. That'll start to
come up. Actually, the grass seed will start to come
up just about the same time the crabgrass is starting
to think about coming up as well. And so you
watch the soil and air temperatures tom and once we
start getting the fifty degrees soil and air temperatures consistently,
especially the soil fifty degrees or so, that crab grass
is going to start thinking about germinating at about fifty

(29:51):
five degrees. Sometimes the grass will do it just a
little bit sooner than that. So right at that point,
that's why I say, you might not even put this
down in so you know late March. Just watch the
weather and go from there. And if the grass seat
starts to pop up a little bit, that's okay. Just
watch the weather and then come back with that. And
then it gives you the fertilizer for the new seeds

(30:12):
and the lawn, plus the temporary pre emergent control. And
then you know, like I say, after about forty five
fifty days, you know that'll start to wear off. You
mow that new grass once or twice, you and come
back in with a regular pre emergent and you're good
to go.

Speaker 8 (30:29):
Okay, all right, all right, well, all right, I appreciate it.
I'm gonna hold off on these companies and try to
work it out with myself.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Then that might might be the best way.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I mean, you could talk to him about it, see
what they what they would plan on doing, and then
make a decision.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
But that may be the way for you to go.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
Right, Okay, thank you, all.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Right, Tom good talking with it. Quick break, We come
back phone line to roan for you. Coming up at
the top of the hour, Riad a hiking fell will
join us. We're gonna talk about her recipe and our
herb of the week, which happens to be cilantro. I
love cilantro. It's amazing what people don't like cilantro because
it tastes like soap to them, But I love cilantro.
The more the merrier. We're gonna talk about that. Coming

(31:11):
at the bottom of the hour, we're gonna talk with
the gentleman who one of the gentlemen who is part
of the Square Foot Gardening Foundation, Rick Bickling. They just
released a Remember square Foot Gardening. They just released a
fourth edition of this book. They keep updating and this
is forty years now that this book's been on the market,
and they just keep updating with new information, new pictures,

(31:33):
new procedures. It's outstanding. We'll talk with them, and at
the top of the following hour we're gonna talk about well,
we're gonna talk about a webinar coming up next week
that you all are invited to attend, absolutely free, talking
about being friendly in your backyard with all those pollinators.
Justina Block will join us at that time as well.

(31:54):
All right, quick break, we come back. Phone lines are
open for you eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five Here in the garden with Ron.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Wilson landscaping lad easier with your personal yard boy.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
He's in the garden and he's Ron Wilson. So you
want to transform that basement into a home officer w

(32:28):
rec room. But that air it's not so great. You
need controlled ventilation from the easy Breathe ventilation system. I
had an easy brief system installed in my basement years ago,
and that's stagnant, musty odor gone. So make this level
usable and healthy and best of all, installation only takes
a few hours. Call eight six six eight two two
seventy three twenty eight. That's eight six six eight two

(32:49):
two seventy three twenty eight, or go to easybreed dot
com the Happy Healthy Home people.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Hey, it's Gary Sullivan for Rota Ruter Plumbing and Water
clean Up, a company that has been trusted and recommended
for generations coast to coast.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Roto Uter fixes clogged.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Drains, leaky faucets, and running toilets. They repair and replace
water heaters, garbage disposals, some pumps, water softeners, and every
other residential commercial plumbing fixture. I use rotor Uter at
my house and you should leave plumbing to the pros too.
Call one eight hundred, get roto or go to rotrouter
dot com today.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
That is our number. Good morning.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I am Ron Wilson, your personally yard boy talking about yarding.
Uh yeah, Ron Roeth has even email me said you're
one more weekend, and then they weren't too. The meteorological
spring March the first, which is absolutely correct, So we'll
take that one, and in what the twentieth, the astrological
whatever it is, spring starts, and then then we're officially

(34:21):
both end of the spring season. So yep, can't wait.
I garant, and I'm telling you people are pent up,
and they're gonna get out there and they're gonna be
looking to do stuff, and they're gonna get their names
on the list for landscaping and maintenance and cleanup. And
if you don't early, you're gonna mess out. By the way,
speaking of that, and we'll go to the guarding phone
lines here just a second, I want to mention this
time of the year, if you're thinking about maybe you're

(34:42):
retired and you're thinking about you'd like to go back
to work on a part time basis. Uh, maybe you've
got someone that's in high school that's looking for their
first time job. Maybe you like a career change where
you know you've just had enough of what you've been doing.
You like something that's a little bit different. You like
to work with plants. This is where I'd like to
remind you to think about the green industry. You know,

(35:04):
if you work in the green industry, you know you
play a vital role in this world because at the
end of the day, you know, the world could be
a lot healthy and more beautiful because of the things
that you have done. Depending on where you work, and
there are all kinds of green opportunities out there for
you right now, experienced or not. High schoolers to seniors,

(35:25):
full time to part time, retail garden centers, landscape firms, nurseries, greenhouses.
They're all hiring this time of the year, and so
it's a great time to check it out if you're interested,
think you want to get more into the green industry
and have fun like I get to have fun. Check
around to your local independent garden centers, check around to

(35:45):
your local nurseries, your local landscape firms, and see what's
available out there. I'll bet, especially with the garden centers,
if you know you have a very flexible schedule. I
want to work three days a week, or I only
want to work four days a week, or whatever it
may be from this time to that time. I'll bet
that they'll work around your schedule. So yeah, So high schoolers,
seniors looking for that part time job, this is a

(36:07):
great way to do it, I'm telling you, And they'll
work around it as well. But again, think green careers
if you're looking for something a little different or looking
for that first time job. And they get out there
right now, because now is the time they are all
hiring for the spring season.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
So check it out.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
To Kentucky we go, Matt, Good morning, Ahi, ron I
met I.

Speaker 9 (36:28):
Got a question about which I get your opinion on
when to put out rain barrels. See what you say about.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
That, Well, you know, we usually we don't get kneading
water until we get more into the spring season, and
depends how much your rains, obviously, and the risk that
you take doing it right now is if by chance
we get into a good drop back down again, it
begins to a freezing and nighttime temps next week, of
course they're going to be freezing. So I think we're

(36:56):
way early as far as that goes. As far as
above ground rain barrel if it was an end ground
stories would maybe be a different story. But I don't
even think about rain barrels probably until we get into
March sometime and I can see the weather's a little
more consistent as far as the temperatures. I think that's
the biggest thing. And then you know, we we naturally
get good rainfall through the spring season, timely rainfall, so

(37:18):
you don't use it quite as much, so you know,
when it doesn't take very much to fill those rain
barrels up. So you know, I really I don't start
thinking about them besides building them or getting them ready,
probably not until late March early April May. We start
looking at the weather and see where you are at
that point, and then get ready for May, June, July,
August obviously from that point.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
On, Yeah, I was gonna look at the wait till
the first week of March, look at the weather out
about a week and see if that you know what
the daytime temperatures are. In the nighttime temperatures as well
as forties in a daytime, it can drop down the
twenties at night. Because you know, I don't have city water, okay,

(38:00):
so all my gardening has to be done out of
rain barrels. I got sixteen.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Rain barrels, no kidding, Yeah, so.

Speaker 9 (38:07):
I filled I start filling them up in the springtime.
Uh so that I have plenty of water. Because last oh,
last year, we got to June June first, and it
stopped the rain and we only got about an inch
of rain from June first to till September when the
hurricane came through. Wow, it was out of water for

(38:29):
probably about August.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I ran out, do you collect that from the roof? Only?

Speaker 9 (38:34):
Yeah? I got a couple, uh like a barn. I
got ten ten on a barn, and I got five
on a smaller building. But uh yeah, that's how I
do it.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Interesting. Yeah, Unfortunately, you're right. And once you run out
of those rain barrels and if you don't get any
more rain, yeah, you're then you're Now what do you
do besides have somebody hauled in and of course and
filling back up for you, But that's not what you're
looking to do. But yeah, the only my only concern,
and it would be the freezing. And then you know,
once we get past that point. As soon as sooner
you can open up and get a filled up, the
better for you. But just watch those temperatures and then

(39:08):
uh and let it rip and you can always I mean,
if it got really bad, you can always go and
drain them. I mean that's that is a benefit.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
And you know, I got another question.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Sure.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
The lady last week was talking about the as the
rain comes down, it gets infused with nitrogen, which I
guess that's why stuff gets greener when I after a rain,
because it's got the nitrogen in the rain water. Yes,
Now does that stay in the rain barrels or do
you think that kind of leaches out of the rain barrel?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I think it would stay right there. I mean there's
no place for it to go. It's you know, it's
in the barrel. Obviously as it as it evaporates, you
may lose a little that way, but otherwise no, I
think it stays in the rain barrel for you. I
would think that what you get coming down, you know,
and you're gonna use it fairly rapidly anyway, I think
would stay with it. So so I actually, after she'd
after a couple I don't know, a couple three weeks,

(40:03):
we had somebody called about that too. I was looking
at whether or not snow or rain had more in
it one versus the other because of the mass of
the snowflake, whether it would pick it up as well.
And there's never been any research on that to see
who actually has the most or picks up the most
one it's coming down out of the sky, but yes
it does, and then it can pick up other minerals

(40:24):
as well. It happened to be in the air. So
it's that's why rain water you get. You know, you
can water all you want, but ma'am, when mother Nature
comes to with a nice rain shower, especially if you
got a little lightning with it, I always I always
say it's probably an old folkstale, but you know, wives tale,
But I always said, once you get that little lightning
in there, everything greens up more than when you water
it yourself. There's no doubt about it. Thanks all right, Matt,

(40:46):
good talking to you. Jim in Westchester.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
How you doing, Ron?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Good?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Listen. I use your three step program.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Last year.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
I air rated thatched, but as things had it, I
was not able to overseed. So I need to overseed
the spring. But I'm afraid of any pre emergence putting down.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
What do you suggest if you are if you have
to have pre immersion applied to the lawn. The only
pre emersion out there that you could actually put down,
and Scott's Step one for newly seated lawns has it.
It's the same chemical. I think that's in tenacity, but
it's in a really low percentage that is actually labeled
for using with the newly seated lawns, and it's called

(41:37):
Scott's Step one for seeding. Otherwise, long care companies they
typically won't do that. And the reason they won't use
that at a low percentage is because it's not one
hundred percent, so they you know, they want to make
sure they get all that stop so you know, you
put grass seed down, they come back in with the
pre diamine or if you know that step one with
with the fertilough has the pre diamine, it will stop

(42:00):
the seeds from germinating and growing. Yes, most definitely, So
you have to kind of make that decision.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yes, okay, so that's what I want to do. I'll
use the step one and then how far out could
I put any type of weak control after putting the
step one down? How long would I have to wait?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Well, you know you want to stay off of that
grass seed itself, and then once the grass starts to
germinate it typically you typically want at least two to
three good mowings on the new grass before you would
go through and start spot treating with a broad leaf
weed killer.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Sounds great, that's the question I had.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Thank you so much, right, Jim, good talking with your
good luck with everything. And I know you know we
talk about the dormant seeding being the second best time.
Obviously fall the best time to do this, and again
that's just what we just talked about one of the
many reasons why fall is a better time to do that.
So you get the grass up, growing seeds all germinated, established,
and we get into the spring season. If you need
to use the pre emerging you can. You can use

(43:00):
the pro diamine. If you use the three step from Fertilom,
that first one has the pre diamine in it. You know,
won't stop your grass seed from coming up because it's
already germinated and grown in the fall. One of the
many reasons why fall such a great time. But when
it comes to dormant seeding, and we do that sometime midwinter,
anytime after anytime late in the season where the grass
seat doesn't germinate anymore through the winter and even into

(43:22):
early spring, then now what do you do right when
you put that seed down? And of course Scott's Step
one for seeding is the only product I know on
the market for homeowners that can use it, and it's
a very low, low, low percentage of the same chemical
that's use in tenacity. But again, lawn care companies won't
do this because it's not one hundred percent does a

(43:43):
good job. You still might get a few things popping
up here and there there, They're not going to do
that because that's not.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
What they want.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
So anytime you put steed down for dormant seating. Make
sure you tell your lawn care company so they know
for sure coming up next. Rita Hikenfeld here in the
garden with Ron.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
Wilson landscaping, lady's ear with your personal yard boy.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
He's in the garden and he's Ron Wilson,