February 8, 2025 • 44 mins
A cup of Joe to kick things off. Then your calls, tips and questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy. We're talking
about yard name. Moving right on through this month of February.
Joe told you was going to go in a hurry.
Who you said? Joe?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Who?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Joe Strucker, Executive produced a lot of people say Joe,
My kids say.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There's so many Joe's on the show. No, no, it's
who do you mean? Bogs? You mean Strucker? Who are
you talking about? That's now you tell us what that's.
That's what they're saying when they say that, I have
to clarify which Joe, and that would be Joe Strecker,
executive producer. It's in charge of our website at Roy
Wilson online dot com, facebook page in the Garden with
Ron Wilson, and that means his time for the Cup
of Joe, mister Joe Strecker. Good morning, sir. How are
(01:12):
you ready for the big game? Big game? Yeah, there's
a big game again. There's a big game in all
these big games too, big games. I mean you're in
are you doing onion bake? You're in semi retirement? Are
you ready for.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The big game?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
In semi retirement. Uh, yeah, I am. I don't you know,
I don't really do you have a favorite for tomorrow.
I'd like to see the eagles'd like to see the
Eagles win. I don't really care if who. I just
hope it's a good game. I got ten bucks on
the Eagles, and I know you're probably betting on how
many times these they show Taylor.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, my I got. I got five bucks on the
Eagles to win, and I got five bucks on Barkley
being the leading rusher.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well that's five dollars in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, it all depends. I mean, if Jalen her does
what he did uh at the beginning of the championship
game where he had sixty sixty seventy yards in the
first quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
True, gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But anyway, Yeah, so I'm rooting for the Eagles. Good.
I like to see him within like a good AFC
team fan.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm not a Jalen Hurts fan. You know, if I don't,
it doesn't matter. I don't follow the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So if they if they win tomorrow, then it don't matter. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I would just have a good game and both teams
will play hard, both get teams do their thing and
take it right to the end. Yep, no blowouts, know
anything like that. Just go to the end.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And I'm hoping. I'm hoping Ryan Day, here's the CEOs,
me like ten percent of that brand new contract?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
He think?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So? Yeah, I mean, I would you like to be
in his show him the plays, I gave him, the
all the rundown on all the teams. You know, hook
me up, man, I don't. I don't ask. I don't
ask for public acknowledgment. I just want to be compensated for.
Just show me the money. How'd like being issues trying
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to rebuild your coaching staff? I know, I mean the
kids are one thing, and you still don't know who's
going to go through the portal and all that stuff.
But rebuilding your your I mean there's a lot of
coaches left there. Yeah, so a lot to redo. But
it happens every year, doesn't it? Or every other year?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah? I mean you lose them all the time. But yeah,
and especially when you win to national championship, what's going
to happen everybody's raised where.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Everyone's gonna raid your thing? Yeah, I'm the only thing
I'm concerned WITHO next year is they lost a lot
of defense. They're always suspect on It was always I'm
okay there. There weren't suspect on defense only the first
like four or five games where it's like guys, wh yeah,
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But then usually they hit their stride around and I start.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Pulling it thing the other.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I don't know. It'll be interesting. I guess it's
college football.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But you know, I'm just gonna relish the uh this
championship and hope again for next year.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I went off on Joe Bugs I saw him Thursday. Yeah,
and you've heard me kind of do my rant about
what we focused too much on Michigan great rivalry long
time ago, still a rivalry, but now it's it's different.
It's different. It's not that's not you know. And they
still talk about the kids come there day one to
play that game. You work from day one to get
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to that game, and it's it's all the games. It's
not it's not just Michigan anymore. It's it's all of them.
And you've heard me say this a million times. I've
always felt it's just in their heads and it just
gets psyched themselves out and if the coach can't get
that out of their head. Urban Meyer was very good
at doing that. But if you can't get it out
of their heads, those kids fall apart.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think. So there's a coaching staff. So to the fans, everybody,
just so. Joe said something about you know that, you
know the state up north. I said, Joe, just say it.
Why do you keep doing it? I got on on
the radio about that. It's Michigan. Just say Michigan. It's
no big deal. It's still gonna have the rivalry. You
still not like them, do whatever. You know that will
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never change. But that's just the way it is. But
I really, I really and honestly feel that. And I'm
not a coach and I'm not a you know whatever.
I just feel that's the way it goes. I get you,
I understand. I mean, Ohio State's gotta.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Beat all their rivals, gotta beat them all. I mean,
you got to Oregon. You look at all the teams
that are in the big ten nown ones. You got Oregon, USC, Washington.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Anymore, and you gotta win them all. Obviously you could.
Now they prove that you gotta. I heard you. You gotta.
You can lose too and still get in the playoffs,
which I think is a good thing. I mean, you
lost one game five years ago, you were out. Now
you can lose two and still make it in there.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You can lose to Indiana and the team up north
and still make what.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's all right, that's just my soapbox. I just got
feel that's fine, that's fine. Let's get over it. I
don't like them either, but let's get over it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's bad Buggy Joe from the program, that's all.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He actually said, asked me, when do you think you
want to get me back on?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Uh? Was like is today?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I said, Joe. We go through this every year. You
stay on year round if you want to. Well, you
know I don't want to, I said, Joe. When you're
ready to come back on, just tell me you're on,
all right. We work our schedule around you around all
the world revolves around Buggy Joe and Steve Folts and
Steve and I thought to Steve, folks kind of have
the same Well, it's someone like a magnet. When they're together,
(06:47):
they like repel Steve. Steve asked me, he said, when
can I get on your show? We'll talk about the
best of it. The zoo oh Wow, he's got a
little trip coming up that he wants talking to the
trade off. Trade off, but there's not a trick so
you can exclose that. No, it's not. But yeah, so you
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talk to him.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So all right, Well we've wasted enough time here. What
do you got to going on the show today?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, actually talking about the where we were Thursday was
an all day training, all kinds of classes. Learned a
lot of stuff, some new things I picked up from there,
and a couple of twists of things that have been
going on in the past and changes and all. But
so we'll start talking about that and share that with
the folks. I forgot that this is a year for
cicadas for southwestern Ohio, for your area.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Has it been seventeen years already? You've got Brewed fourteen
coming out?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I forgot. I forgot all about that. Oh wow, So
we'll kind of get people fired up about that a
little bit. Well, yeah, it's lots of tips to share
from that, but lots of talk about and of course
taking the calls. Our special guests today will be Rita
hiking Field. Yeah, and it's herb time to talk about
that recipe which will talk about the second and with
(08:03):
Valentine's Day coming up next weekend, we're gonna talk about
some of the love herbs. Oh love herbs, I wanta
might want to listen to that. And at the bottom
of the eye of that hour, we're going to talk
to a Bruce Fraser from Dixondale Onion Farms Cool how
to grow onions. He's the best. He used to be
a professional rodeo bull rider. Nice now he grows onions
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about two thousand acres.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And if you want his recipe for the onion dip
that he put out, that's a not this week but
last week on the on the web page if you
go to the web page YEP. In addition to the
web page which.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is YEP, Ron Wilson online dot com, in the Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
This week the Fascinating Lifestyle of the Hemlock wooly adela adelged.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Did you find that interesting reading?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It was very complex and there you go, yes, yes, yes,
And it's a long read, so you definitely.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's a serious problem with the hemlock that's growing out
in the wild.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I am very sure that that's very very important. Just
some just warning you people it's a long read.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's a long read. So if you're on a plane,
or it could be something you take with you or
waiting for a doctor or whatever, it might.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Be something to take with you. Rito's recipe of this week,
yess is cheeseburger pizza. Cheeseburger pizza with a lot of
herbs on it. Got some basil on there, garlic. Can
you do that?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
One year? Shaped it like a heart for Valentine's Day?
Heart shaped pizza. You made it home.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I made a heart shaped pizza, but it wasn't a
cheeseburger pizza.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh remember when she had their Big Boy pizza that
one time vicious tartar sauce on it and Rita did Yeah,
that was a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That was a long time ago. That was good.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That was pretty good. I was pretty darn good. Actually,
now you don't know? That's likes who fresh as what?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's a shade?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, that's another story, is what it is? The uh?
Is that playing of the week this week? Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I can't wait for you to pronounce this one.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The Jim Jim necladis you got that one? You can't
wait for the what diocious dioscious? Pretty close it is
d ee d dioxious. You got it, Kentucky coffee tree.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Pretty good. I'm amazed. I'm not amazed. I shouldn't be
amazed because you're always going to do that anyway. But yes,
that was it. Kentucky coffee tree. What an unusual tree. Uh,
it's a native by the way, for all you folks
that want to get out and plant natives. But there's
a tree that gets pretty good size, forty five fifty
feet high, maybe thirty thirty five feet wide. But what's
(10:54):
interesting about this tree it's way again, way under used
in the landscape. It is available out there for you
that you can find it. But pretty good sized tree.
But what's interesting is when it's smaller, Joe, it doesn't
look like much. As a matter of fact, the name
Jim noclattis actually stands for naked branches whoa in Latin.
(11:17):
Maybe you should have had this one next week because balatizing.
But because the branches have no real small twigs on them,
or they have just main branches that go out, so
it's very oh, I mean, it's really cool looking actually,
but when you buy one as a younger tree, it
doesn't look like much. So it's a hard cell, but
it's really cool when it comes out double compound leaf
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which makes it look really tropical. And there are a
couple of different varieties that you can take a look at.
The narrow skinny lat yeah, which need to one to
produce the pods, and they do produce a pod. But
again unused tree. But there's literally no insector disease issues
with this tree. It takes all kinds of conditions. It's
again tough and durable.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I'm guessing this is another tree from my front yard.
That's that one's gonna get pretty good. Yeah, so probably
unless you unless you use then the narrow one, the
upright one, No, I would not use it. And what's
the name of the upright one, The upright one is
the skinny hotte skinny Lotte.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I thought that was kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's pretty cool that they're espressoir their cool names are
after coffee.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, pretty neat that the potted that the reason that's
called coffee tree way back when the pioneers would boil
those things and then make some kind of a coffee
tea out of it. But it's kind of like boiling
the Buckeyes. You gotta boil them to all that bad
stuff gets out of there, and then I'll just I'll pass.
I'll just get a dunkin Donuts. Yeah, I'll pass on that.
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So yeah, so it's a it's pretty cool tree. So
be sure check it out, all right, gonna head on out.
That's it, headed home, Head on home and take.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
A nap and start my Uh I gotta start my
food for for the game. Oh yeah, I get it all,
get all get prepped up and gotta get my prep
big party, big party. I guess I lost my invitation
or something. I know I sent it to you.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, I probably forgot to stand it maybe yeah, yeah, okay,
no problem. Joe Shreker Executive Joe Shreker, executive producer. If
you like what you see on your west side mm hmm,
Ron Wilson Online dot Com. You don't like it? Uh,
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Joe had everything to do with it. It's Joe had
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still in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Mm hmmm. Is what it is? That funny?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Your party?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Let me know about it. Send a picture. I'll definitely
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardening. I love today, we
get and I love every day, you know, me every Saturday.
To be able to do this as a is truly
a blessing. It's an honor to be able to do this,
to talk with folks and kind of be the messenger
and share information. And went to some workshops this week myself,
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sharpening the acts. Learned a few things, how you know.
And it's good because it things change and we now
have more scientific research to back up things that we
have always talked about. Some scientific research to say, you
know what, maybe that didn't quite work the way we
(18:07):
thought it used to work. It's always interesting to sit
down and learn and find out more, et cetera, et cetera.
And I had so many notes yesterday when I came
away from the session on Thursday. It was crazy. But
it's a good thing and I think they're really encouraging
part there too. So many professionals were there. I think
this is one of Joe Boggs and OSU, Purdue, Indiana, Kentucky,
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Penn State. They all get to get Purdue. Yeah, I
had to put them in there. They all come together
and put on a great one day workshopping. There's about
eight different tracks, from greenhouses to retail to annuals perennials
to ecology. I mean, it's a bunch and turf and
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you can jump back and forth and do all kinds
of great classes. Have a little trade show there and
a lot to learn, and they do a great job
becoming so well attended. And that's a great thing because
the professionals are there learning and updating and keeping themselves
up to date, you know, as far as the new
information that's out there. But it's a lot of fun.
But you know, I'm sitting there and I'm listening to
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a great guy from the University of Kentucky talking about
invasive pests that we are dealing with right now. And
he obviously talked about the box tree bent a little bit,
not much, because Joe really was covering that a whole lot,
And of course we're going to talk about that a
whole lot this spring because the whole goal is getting
the word out there to anybody and everybody that has
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boxwood east of the Mississippi. If you have them, you
need to watch for him. As a matter of fact,
go to our website a run listen online dot com.
Look at last week's postings and I think it's last
week or two weeks ago. Joe just put out for
everybody to get started this year a three different segment
segmented UH Learning UH informational sheets on the box treemont
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to learn more about it even if you haven't seen it,
if you haven't heard about it, but if you have
boxwood in your area or in your yard, you need
to know about it. But anyway, talking about the non
native invasive pess that we're dealing with UH, and guy
was funnier and heck, he's the kind of guy you'd
want to have to go to a party and hang
out with your friends, because he was funny, and it
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could be. But he went through all these different things
that we're seeing, and the one thing he brought up
was guess what, We're faced with a little bit of
more cicadas coming up this spring, and I forgot all
about that in our area. We'll talk more about that
taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Lots of tips to share as well.
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
We are talking you ardening at eight hundred and eight
two three eight two five five. Good morning. I am
Ron Wilson yard boy. And before we went into the
break light belt or light belt, a light bulb went
off in my head on Thursday as I was sitting
in a workshop of class talking about non native invasives
that we were dealing with in our area and talking
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about the box tree moth and spotted lantern fly, and
obviously the emeral dashboard falls into that an Asian longhorn beetle,
and we're talking about some of the invasive worms that
we'll get someone on to talk a little bit more
about those two pretty interesting, but it brought up to
the fact that some of us are going to get
hit with the brood fourteen of the cicadas this year,
and I forgot all about that. Now it's for us.
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It's only in southern Ohio, south western Ohio, mostly close
to the river. Along the river kind of follows up
close to Pennsylvania, but not quite that far. But Pennsylvania
does have brood fourteen there, so they'll be seeing it. Yeah,
there they go. West Virginia will be seeing some of it.
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Virginia we'll see some. Tennessee and Kentucky get a big time.
Indiana got a little bit down on the southeastern side.
If you want to see a map of this, so
we'll get all this posted for you in the next
month or so. But if you want to start looking
it up now, Cicada Mania great website. It's the website
when you want to learn about cicadas. Cicada Mania and
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just check it out. It's got all the maps and
updates and wins and wears and all that kind of stuff,
and you'll learn a lot from it. Like I say,
we'll post more of it for you as well, But
I forget all about that. Yeah, and then of course
everybody will be in a panic and what to do
and remember no sprays, nothing like that. If you've got
to protect some plants from the ciccadas during that four
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to six week period when they're out hitting the hitting
the plants, and don't remember they don't really feed on anything.
That's not the issue. It's the female laying eggs in
the branches that caused the issue because there's a lot
of times those branches die. As matter of fact, you
hear me sometimes talking with Joe Strecker, our executive producer,
about a replanning a tree in his funny yard.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Of became a joke.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, which Joe is that again kind of became a
joke because they had this beautiful, uh, double flowering ornamental cherry.
That thing was twenty feet tall and wide, absolutely gorgeous,
had a trunk on it about eight inches ten inches
in diameter. Uh, and it when it flowered, it was wow.
It was quite a show. And they had cicadas one
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year that came in their area and that they just
hammered that tree. I don't think they had one. That
tree had one branch that they did not lay eggs
in the females, and that tree just never recovered. It
just could not get out of the damages. Now, not
much of it, not a lot of it died. It
did over time, but at first it just kind of
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it wouldn't grow anymore. It stopped flowering, and then we
started to see the cline. Finally had to have the
tree taken out, and once it was taken out, somebody
living there decided they didn't want to replace it anymore.
So we've kidded about that a little bit, about a
perfect tree for that planting. But cicadas did a number there.
But anyway, they will be in our area Kentucky, Tennessee,
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a little bit West Virginia, Pennsylvania, south eastern Indiana, and
a few other areas. It's brewed fourteen. They usually come
out when the temperatures soil temperatures are right about sixty
five degrees, and they are consistent sixty five degrees soil temperatures.
You see them start to come out. They last anywhere
four weeks, maybe six weeks, could go to mid June,
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depending on the weather. And when they come out. They
don't all come out the same time, although they come
out pretty close to the same time, but they'll last
over there. But anyway, no sprays. It's all a matter
of typically netting. I don't like using cheese cloth, but netting,
and there are cicada nettings that are available, so and
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I remember when we had the big broods that hit
several years ago, you couldn't find cicada netting. Everybody ran
out in a hurry. So if you think you're going
to be in an area that's going to have them,
you might want to take a look at some cicada
netting if you have anything you have to cover up
to protect them during that six week period. But we'll
talk more about that as we start to get a
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little closer to it, and we'll get that posted for
you for more information. But pretty interesting also was learning
about you know, we've talked about them on our show,
that hammerhead earthworm, which is a pretty crazy thing, and
of course the crazy worms or the jumping worms, both
non natives, and just now we're finding them just about everywhere,
and again not a whole lot you can do about them,
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but just recognizing them and then when you do find them,
of course, try to destroy them. The thing about the
hammerhead worm is that if you would find one and
get mad with your shovel and cut it up into
six or eight pieces. It just thanks you because now
there's six or eight more of them that one does
reproduce or can regenerate that way, so kind of crazy.
(27:53):
But anyway, we'll talk more about that. And like I said,
I got a bazillion notes and lots of great ideas
for us to talk about future show. So well we'll
keep that in mind. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five to the garden foone lines, we shall go.
Matt in Kentucky, Good morning, Good.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Morning, ron sir. They give you an update on Uh.
I was just outside of looking around in my flower
garden in the in the vegetable garden, I've got daffodils
popped up. Naked ladies are showing their little heads coming out, Uh,
little crocuses, you can see them coming up. And then
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my garlic which I plant garlic in the fall. Right,
it's already five or six inches high. But it was
that way, you know, before the snow and all that.
But it's still it's coming up, it's growing and uh,
you know, it's amazing how we had that snow cover
and as soon as that snow melted. You could see
those uh, those daffodils, and I have some silts coming up.
(28:55):
They were coming up underneath that snow. They were literally
It's just amazing how they can they can do that, you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Know, it's you know, I still say, you know, the
wonders of mother nature, and you know insects and the
bees and the birds and all that stuff. But when
you think about plants as well, how you know obviously
that's just in their their g's in their system, but
how do they know that? How do they? You know?
And and folks will panic, Matt. You know, there's a
lot of folks that when the snow goes away and
they see they're starting to come up, we'll go into
(29:20):
a panic and think something's going to happen. But the
thing of it is, I always say, you know what
they know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I got a question about the garlic. You know, I
don't know if you've ever grown garlic. Yes, when I
harvest it, you know, you'll have the main head, but
then sometimes you'll have a little brown uh tan, I'm
gonna I guess they're clothes. And sometimes what I do
I just pop them off because they're not. I just
pop them off from them back and around, and I
(29:50):
think those sprout garlic two.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
From the bulblits that are at the top where it
may have flowered.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Well, no on that like on the side of the
little brown, hard little things, I just I didn't. I
don't think they're edible. I just popped them off and
throw them back in the sword. And I think those
will sprout up like the next year those because I'll
find garlic just in different places. I never planted garlic.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
There, but but there it is, you.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Know, like the previous year I harvested garlic garlic out
of there. I didn't put anything back. But I think
those little brown clothes sprout too after that. Do you
think that's true?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
What could be? And that I'm just said here thinking
I don't recall ever pulling any of those off, But
are they viable? Are they really hard?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Be a little hard? They're not like part of the
they're like, I don't know, separate from the main the
main head of the garlic.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Right.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I know, I said that doesn't look edible. So I
just pop them off, throw them back in, and I
think they.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And you still you're seeing see them come up where
we're that you didn't anticipate them come out. Yeah, I'm
not sure. Like I say, i've grown, yeah, I do,
and I don't recall seeing those, But that could be.
I'll have to take a look at it and see
what that might might be. But i'll tell you what that's.
Another one is we've got, as a matter of fact,
coming on in our next hour. We got Bruce Frasier,
(31:23):
he owns a two thousand i think it's two one
thousand acre onion farm out in Texas, talking about growing
onions this morning. And I'll throw that at him also
because I think they do garlic as well. But it's
interesting how garlic especially is so easy to grow and
so easy to store, and you know, to grow your
own a garlic is a piece of cake. And again,
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planning in the fall, which a lot of folks forget about,
that is actually better than doing it in the springtime.
You get better clothes, nicer clothes. It's just all around
better better planting time than doing it in the in
the springtime. And you can do them in containers as well. Yeah,
so a Matt always a pleasure. Appreciate the update. Thank
you all right, good talking with you. Quick break, we
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Speaker 1 (34:16):
Talking yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five, it's nice to have friends and gardening. I
just had a friend text sent me a text grows
a lot of garlics. Said, those brown bumps are not
actually not seeds or anything like that, said, it be
caused by all kinds of things, including a mite. The
bottom line is there are if it gets bruised, gets soft,
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there are some mites I guess that can get on
the side of those can cause that in a reaction
to the clove. Just kind of like scabbing, a little
scabbing and there's these little brown things and you can
pick them off and go from there. But that's he said,
more than likely, that's what you're looking at when you
see that. So not a seed. And again the seeds
would be which was what I was asking earlier, if
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that if those scapes to come up and they you know,
have the little flower on the top that's actually a
little bull what's up there will drop back down sometimes
that could happen drop down and being amongst the cloves possibly,
but you know, if they're kind of attached to it,
that's probably, like you said, was where it may have
been damaged by small mites or bruising or something like that,
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and it just kind of callouses on that particular point,
and then you just kind of pick it off. But
I guess it's common enough that you know he right
away and new right away what you were talking about.
So there you go. It's always good to have friends
in low places, high places, and out in the garden
as well. To Cincinnati we go, Roger, good.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Morning, Hey, good morning Ron.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Roger? I'm doing great? How about yourself?
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Not too bad?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Prominently displayed on my honey do list for today is
winter seating some den spots in our backyard from this
past summer's drought that we had in our area, and
just wanted to get some pointers from you. I went
out and to our local seed store and purchased a
fifty pound bag of seed. So I'm ready to get
(36:05):
out there. I know I need to rake up the
leaves and make sure that the seed touches the soil.
But is there anything else I need to do to
prep that soil for winter seeding.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Nope, that's it. It makes it pretty simple. And you
know it's funny. Somebody asked me this week. I got
an email saying, you know, I can't get out and rake.
I just can't do it. Can I just go out
and broadcast in my lawn and needs to you know,
just need a general overseating. Can I do that without
raking and getting the debris out of the way. Well,
you think about it, many many, many years ago, we
did do that. I mean, you know, before a lot
(36:35):
of research was done, we would just go out there
and throw the seed out. And what you counted on
for dormant seating in the winter was you counted on snowfall.
You count it on rainfall to help wash that down
and get it to the soil. And then the whole
thing of dormant seeding, like right now, especially mid mid February,
is the freezing and thawing. And boy, this week, you
(36:55):
know we're looking at thirties and forties during the day
back down in the twenties at night. That's perfect because
now you're freezing and thought and that works it into
the soil. But you know, what you're doing is perfect.
The big thing right now is to get the debris
out of the way. And when you do rake, you're
rough on up the soil a little bit as well,
getting your seeding down. And if it's you know, if
(37:16):
it's bare areas, make sure you throw that seed back
out into the existing lawn as well, kind of feather
it back out so you get a nice little you know,
kind of trickles back into the existing lawn as well.
That's the most important thing right now, and let mother
nature freeze and thaw and work that seed into the
soil so it's ready to go for you. When the
weather breaks, the soil and air temperatures are just right,
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that stuff can pop and start to grow. At that point,
what's going to be important, Roger is then applying a
starter fertilizer. And you can do that starter fertilizer for
the entire lawn, so it's not just for those areas
that you see. You can just put it on the
whole lawn. It's a great, great way to get you
off to a good start. Do remember that if you
do pre emergent herbicides. Most all of those will stop
(38:00):
grass seed from coming up, so unfortunately you can't use
your regular pre emergence in the springtime when you're doing
dormant seeding. But Scott's does offer their Step one for
newly seated lawns. It's a starter fertilizer plus a pre
emergent that does allow grass seed to germany. It gives
you about forty five to sixty days and then to
(38:24):
allow the grass seat to germinate. Then it's done, it
wears out, and then you can come back in at
that point and put down a regular pre emergent if
you need to do that. But it gives you the
starter fertilizer, which we do know is very important as
that new seed is getting off to a good start.
But an answer to your question, raking out the debris,
roughing up the soil a little bit, you know, just
using a leaf rake or whatever, and then seating on
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top absolutely perfect. That's all you need to do.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Great.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
I asked the guy at the seed store too, because
the type that we put down years ago they don't
make that anymore, and he said, you won't notice any different.
It's all we're getting it. It's called fine lawn elite,
and he said, it'll look just like the stuff that
you already have down. He won't notice, you know, a
difference if you will, between what you have and what
you're putting down.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, and what's good about the turf typed doll fescues?
Highly recommend him And you know against they've been around
us probably we've been doing those for probably thirty years
now or so, but they just keep getting better all
the time. And he's right, So, you know what, no
matter what you would buy out there, some of them
can vary a little bit in color. But that's why
I like using a blend of them. You can use
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straight fine lawn, the elite, whatever it may be. Sometimes
I like doing a blend also, But you're right, they
just kind of blend together. The colors eventually blend together.
And that's why I was saying, kind of feathered out
into your existing as well. And I'll tell you, Roger,
one thing we have found with the turf type tall fescues,
even as tough as they are, deep rooting insect, low
on the insect issues, low on the disease issues, it's
(39:54):
probably a good thing to come in on a turf
type tall rescue lawn about every three four maybe five
years max. And do a little overseating just to thicken
them back up a little bit. You know, that's one
seed is one plant. Some of the newer selections do
rise them a little bit, but not at all like bluegrass.
But so it might not be a bad idea over time.
(40:16):
And obviously we had the drought and all that this
past year, but as you look through the future, it's
to about every cut put on your calendar every three
four years or so, go out and do a little
overseating just to help keep it thickened up. But otherwise
that turf typed off. Ask you. The new selections that
are coming along are absolutely gorgeous and they all work
together quite nicely.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
I did notice that on the label here that it's
got a date tested and then a cell by date.
Is the seed still usable past that cell by date?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Oh no, no, no, absolutely, they have to do that. They
have to test it on a regular basis so they
know what the germination rate is. And of course every
year past the first year of having it available to you,
the germination rate will start to decrease somewhat. But you know, no,
if you don't use it all up the first year.
The second year, you I doubt you even lose five
(41:06):
to ten percent max. Of the germination rate. But after
two or three years down the road, it really does
start to drop after that point. But they do that purposely.
And if garden centers have seed left over at the
end of the year, their seed companies will typically come
in and retest that, relabel it, you know, and put
(41:26):
a new label on for the next year, depending on
the germination rates and all that kind of stuff. But
they just do that for you, so it's kind of
like a best you know, best if used by date.
But that's part of the regulations of selling grass seed
out there.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
Perfect, all right, bron I appreciate all your help.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
All right, Roger, good luck with everything. Tell us how
it turns out this spring and when it all starts
to come up for you. And that's the whole idea
about dormant seating. The best time for seeding is in
the fall. We know that September October the ultimate time
for seating. This past year in our area, it was
so hot and dry, a lot of folks just couldn't
do it. I mean, it just wasn't possible. So the
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second best time for seating is dormant seeding. When is
dormant seating anytime during the could be late November, December, January, February,
even early March. Where the seed doesn't come up yet
you put it down, it's just going to sit there
and stay dormant until the weather temperature, soil and air
gets to that fifty to fifty five degrees where it
can start to germinate and grow. Dormant seating. What's so
(42:25):
good about that As you put it down, mother nature
works it into the soil for you and it's in
place and ready to go as soon as the weather breaks.
Because your goal is to get that grass seat up
and growing and rooted in before we get into the
heat of the summer. If you do spring seating, which
unfortunately we sell more grass seed in the spring than
any other time in the rest of the year, it's
(42:47):
going to folks get out and see that he's bears,
busing and whatever. But you know, you get the grass
coming up. Maybe you don't do it until May or
mid May, and all of a sudden, you know, the
grass comes up into May starting to fill in, and
by June we're starting to hit those ninety three tempts.
It can be really tough on that new grass coming up,
and you you're stuck with watering it a little bit
(43:07):
more often during the summer just to make sure it
makes it through. So that's why dormant seeding is the
second best time. And again seed soil contact so so important.
Break the debris out of the way, then let mother
nature do the rest. If you can't do that, still
do orvan seed. Go out there and work it. And
if you do it this week, hopefully we could get
a little snow, you get a little rainfall, it helps
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to wash it off the leaves and off the debris
and down into the soil. You're gonna lose some of
the seed, there's no doubt. But if that's the only
way you can do it, I'd still do it. It's
the way we used to do it thirty or forty
years ago. But if you can get the bris out
of the way and get good seed soil contact, that
is what is so important. Slice seeding really helps you out.
All right, quick break, we come back. Riata Hikefeld coming
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up next here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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That's what they're saying when they say that, I have
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you ready for the big game? Big game? Yeah, there's
a big game again. There's a big game in all
these big games too, big games. I mean you're in
are you doing onion bake? You're in semi retirement? Are
you ready for.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The big game?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
In semi retirement. Uh, yeah, I am. I don't you know,
I don't really do you have a favorite for tomorrow.
I'd like to see the eagles'd like to see the
Eagles win. I don't really care if who. I just
hope it's a good game. I got ten bucks on
the Eagles, and I know you're probably betting on how
many times these they show Taylor.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, my I got. I got five bucks on the
Eagles to win, and I got five bucks on Barkley
being the leading rusher.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well that's five dollars in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, it all depends. I mean, if Jalen her does
what he did uh at the beginning of the championship
game where he had sixty sixty seventy yards in the
first quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
True, gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But anyway, Yeah, so I'm rooting for the Eagles. Good.
I like to see him within like a good AFC
team fan.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm not a Jalen Hurts fan. You know, if I don't,
it doesn't matter. I don't follow the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So if they if they win tomorrow, then it don't matter. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I would just have a good game and both teams
will play hard, both get teams do their thing and
take it right to the end. Yep, no blowouts, know
anything like that. Just go to the end.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And I'm hoping. I'm hoping Ryan Day, here's the CEOs,
me like ten percent of that brand new contract?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
He think?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So? Yeah, I mean, I would you like to be
in his show him the plays, I gave him, the
all the rundown on all the teams. You know, hook
me up, man, I don't. I don't ask. I don't
ask for public acknowledgment. I just want to be compensated for.
Just show me the money. How'd like being issues trying
(03:12):
to rebuild your coaching staff? I know, I mean the
kids are one thing, and you still don't know who's
going to go through the portal and all that stuff.
But rebuilding your your I mean there's a lot of
coaches left there. Yeah, so a lot to redo. But
it happens every year, doesn't it? Or every other year?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah? I mean you lose them all the time. But yeah,
and especially when you win to national championship, what's going
to happen everybody's raised where.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Everyone's gonna raid your thing? Yeah, I'm the only thing
I'm concerned WITHO next year is they lost a lot
of defense. They're always suspect on It was always I'm
okay there. There weren't suspect on defense only the first
like four or five games where it's like guys, wh yeah,
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But then usually they hit their stride around and I start.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Pulling it thing the other.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I don't know. It'll be interesting. I guess it's
college football.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But you know, I'm just gonna relish the uh this
championship and hope again for next year.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I went off on Joe Bugs I saw him Thursday. Yeah,
and you've heard me kind of do my rant about
what we focused too much on Michigan great rivalry long
time ago, still a rivalry, but now it's it's different.
It's different. It's not that's not you know. And they
still talk about the kids come there day one to
play that game. You work from day one to get
(04:34):
to that game, and it's it's all the games. It's
not it's not just Michigan anymore. It's it's all of them.
And you've heard me say this a million times. I've
always felt it's just in their heads and it just
gets psyched themselves out and if the coach can't get
that out of their head. Urban Meyer was very good
at doing that. But if you can't get it out
of their heads, those kids fall apart.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think. So there's a coaching staff. So to the fans, everybody,
just so. Joe said something about you know that, you
know the state up north. I said, Joe, just say it.
Why do you keep doing it? I got on on
the radio about that. It's Michigan. Just say Michigan. It's
no big deal. It's still gonna have the rivalry. You
still not like them, do whatever. You know that will
(05:18):
never change. But that's just the way it is. But
I really, I really and honestly feel that. And I'm
not a coach and I'm not a you know whatever.
I just feel that's the way it goes. I get you,
I understand. I mean, Ohio State's gotta.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Beat all their rivals, gotta beat them all. I mean,
you got to Oregon. You look at all the teams
that are in the big ten nown ones. You got Oregon, USC, Washington.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Anymore, and you gotta win them all. Obviously you could.
Now they prove that you gotta. I heard you. You gotta.
You can lose too and still get in the playoffs,
which I think is a good thing. I mean, you
lost one game five years ago, you were out. Now
you can lose two and still make it in there.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You can lose to Indiana and the team up north
and still make what.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's all right, that's just my soapbox. I just got
feel that's fine, that's fine. Let's get over it. I
don't like them either, but let's get over it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's bad Buggy Joe from the program, that's all.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He actually said, asked me, when do you think you
want to get me back on?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Uh? Was like is today?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I said, Joe. We go through this every year. You
stay on year round if you want to. Well, you
know I don't want to, I said, Joe. When you're
ready to come back on, just tell me you're on,
all right. We work our schedule around you around all
the world revolves around Buggy Joe and Steve Folts and
Steve and I thought to Steve, folks kind of have
the same Well, it's someone like a magnet. When they're together,
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they like repel Steve. Steve asked me, he said, when
can I get on your show? We'll talk about the
best of it. The zoo oh Wow, he's got a
little trip coming up that he wants talking to the
trade off. Trade off, but there's not a trick so
you can exclose that. No, it's not. But yeah, so you
(07:08):
talk to him.
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So all right, Well we've wasted enough time here. What
do you got to going on the show today?
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Well, actually talking about the where we were Thursday was
an all day training, all kinds of classes. Learned a
lot of stuff, some new things I picked up from there,
and a couple of twists of things that have been
going on in the past and changes and all. But
so we'll start talking about that and share that with
the folks. I forgot that this is a year for
cicadas for southwestern Ohio, for your area.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Has it been seventeen years already? You've got Brewed fourteen
coming out?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I forgot. I forgot all about that. Oh wow, So
we'll kind of get people fired up about that a
little bit. Well, yeah, it's lots of tips to share
from that, but lots of talk about and of course
taking the calls. Our special guests today will be Rita
hiking Field. Yeah, and it's herb time to talk about
that recipe which will talk about the second and with
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Valentine's Day coming up next weekend, we're gonna talk about
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might want to listen to that. And at the bottom
of the eye of that hour, we're going to talk
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to grow onions. He's the best. He used to be
a professional rodeo bull rider. Nice now he grows onions
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Speaker 2 (09:24):
Be something to take with you. Rito's recipe of this week,
yess is cheeseburger pizza. Cheeseburger pizza with a lot of
herbs on it. Got some basil on there, garlic. Can
you do that?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
One year? Shaped it like a heart for Valentine's Day?
Heart shaped pizza. You made it home.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I made a heart shaped pizza, but it wasn't a
cheeseburger pizza.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh remember when she had their Big Boy pizza that
one time vicious tartar sauce on it and Rita did Yeah,
that was a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That was a long time ago. That was good.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That was pretty good. I was pretty darn good. Actually,
now you don't know? That's likes who fresh as what?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's a shade?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, that's another story, is what it is? The uh?
Is that playing of the week this week? Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I can't wait for you to pronounce this one.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The Jim Jim necladis you got that one? You can't
wait for the what diocious dioscious? Pretty close it is
d ee d dioxious. You got it, Kentucky coffee tree.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Pretty good. I'm amazed. I'm not amazed. I shouldn't be
amazed because you're always going to do that anyway. But yes,
that was it. Kentucky coffee tree. What an unusual tree. Uh,
it's a native by the way, for all you folks
that want to get out and plant natives. But there's
a tree that gets pretty good size, forty five fifty
feet high, maybe thirty thirty five feet wide. But what's
(10:54):
interesting about this tree it's way again, way under used
in the landscape. It is available out there for you
that you can find it. But pretty good sized tree.
But what's interesting is when it's smaller, Joe, it doesn't
look like much. As a matter of fact, the name
Jim noclattis actually stands for naked branches whoa in Latin.
(11:17):
Maybe you should have had this one next week because balatizing.
But because the branches have no real small twigs on them,
or they have just main branches that go out, so
it's very oh, I mean, it's really cool looking actually,
but when you buy one as a younger tree, it
doesn't look like much. So it's a hard cell, but
it's really cool when it comes out double compound leaf
(11:38):
which makes it look really tropical. And there are a
couple of different varieties that you can take a look at.
The narrow skinny lat yeah, which need to one to
produce the pods, and they do produce a pod. But
again unused tree. But there's literally no insector disease issues
with this tree. It takes all kinds of conditions. It's
again tough and durable.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I'm guessing this is another tree from my front yard.
That's that one's gonna get pretty good. Yeah, so probably
unless you unless you use then the narrow one, the
upright one, No, I would not use it. And what's
the name of the upright one, The upright one is
the skinny hotte skinny Lotte.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I thought that was kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's pretty cool that they're espressoir their cool names are
after coffee.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, pretty neat that the potted that the reason that's
called coffee tree way back when the pioneers would boil
those things and then make some kind of a coffee
tea out of it. But it's kind of like boiling
the Buckeyes. You gotta boil them to all that bad
stuff gets out of there, and then I'll just I'll pass.
I'll just get a dunkin Donuts. Yeah, I'll pass on that.
(12:46):
So yeah, so it's a it's pretty cool tree. So
be sure check it out, all right, gonna head on out.
That's it, headed home, Head on home and take.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
A nap and start my Uh I gotta start my
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big party, big party. I guess I lost my invitation
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Yeah, I probably forgot to stand it maybe yeah, yeah, okay,
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Your party?
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardening. I love today, we
get and I love every day, you know, me every Saturday.
To be able to do this as a is truly
a blessing. It's an honor to be able to do this,
to talk with folks and kind of be the messenger
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(17:47):
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(18:07):
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down and learn and find out more, et cetera, et cetera.
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away from the session on Thursday. It was crazy. But
it's a good thing and I think they're really encouraging
part there too. So many professionals were there. I think
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(18:32):
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(18:52):
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a lot to learn, and they do a great job
becoming so well attended. And that's a great thing because
the professionals are there learning and updating and keeping themselves
up to date, you know, as far as the new
information that's out there. But it's a lot of fun.
But you know, I'm sitting there and I'm listening to
(19:14):
a great guy from the University of Kentucky talking about
invasive pests that we are dealing with right now. And
he obviously talked about the box tree bent a little bit,
not much, because Joe really was covering that a whole lot,
And of course we're going to talk about that a
whole lot this spring because the whole goal is getting
the word out there to anybody and everybody that has
(19:37):
boxwood east of the Mississippi. If you have them, you
need to watch for him. As a matter of fact,
go to our website a run listen online dot com.
Look at last week's postings and I think it's last
week or two weeks ago. Joe just put out for
everybody to get started this year a three different segment
segmented UH Learning UH informational sheets on the box treemont
(20:01):
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if you haven't heard about it, but if you have
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to know about it. But anyway, talking about the non
native invasive pess that we're dealing with UH, and guy
was funnier and heck, he's the kind of guy you'd
want to have to go to a party and hang
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(20:21):
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that we're seeing, and the one thing he brought up
was guess what, We're faced with a little bit of
more cicadas coming up this spring, and I forgot all
about that in our area. We'll talk more about that
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
We are talking you ardening at eight hundred and eight
two three eight two five five. Good morning. I am
Ron Wilson yard boy. And before we went into the
break light belt or light belt, a light bulb went
off in my head on Thursday as I was sitting
in a workshop of class talking about non native invasives
that we were dealing with in our area and talking
(23:15):
about the box tree moth and spotted lantern fly, and
obviously the emeral dashboard falls into that an Asian longhorn beetle,
and we're talking about some of the invasive worms that
we'll get someone on to talk a little bit more
about those two pretty interesting, but it brought up to
the fact that some of us are going to get
hit with the brood fourteen of the cicadas this year,
and I forgot all about that. Now it's for us.
(23:37):
It's only in southern Ohio, south western Ohio, mostly close
to the river. Along the river kind of follows up
close to Pennsylvania, but not quite that far. But Pennsylvania
does have brood fourteen there, so they'll be seeing it. Yeah,
there they go. West Virginia will be seeing some of it.
(23:59):
Virginia we'll see some. Tennessee and Kentucky get a big time.
Indiana got a little bit down on the southeastern side.
If you want to see a map of this, so
we'll get all this posted for you in the next
month or so. But if you want to start looking
it up now, Cicada Mania great website. It's the website
when you want to learn about cicadas. Cicada Mania and
(24:19):
just check it out. It's got all the maps and
updates and wins and wears and all that kind of stuff,
and you'll learn a lot from it. Like I say,
we'll post more of it for you as well, But
I forget all about that. Yeah, and then of course
everybody will be in a panic and what to do
and remember no sprays, nothing like that. If you've got
to protect some plants from the ciccadas during that four
(24:40):
to six week period when they're out hitting the hitting
the plants, and don't remember they don't really feed on anything.
That's not the issue. It's the female laying eggs in
the branches that caused the issue because there's a lot
of times those branches die. As matter of fact, you
hear me sometimes talking with Joe Strecker, our executive producer,
about a replanning a tree in his funny yard.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Of became a joke.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, which Joe is that again kind of became a
joke because they had this beautiful, uh, double flowering ornamental cherry.
That thing was twenty feet tall and wide, absolutely gorgeous,
had a trunk on it about eight inches ten inches
in diameter. Uh, and it when it flowered, it was wow.
It was quite a show. And they had cicadas one
(25:22):
year that came in their area and that they just
hammered that tree. I don't think they had one. That
tree had one branch that they did not lay eggs
in the females, and that tree just never recovered. It
just could not get out of the damages. Now, not
much of it, not a lot of it died. It
did over time, but at first it just kind of
(25:43):
it wouldn't grow anymore. It stopped flowering, and then we
started to see the cline. Finally had to have the
tree taken out, and once it was taken out, somebody
living there decided they didn't want to replace it anymore.
So we've kidded about that a little bit, about a
perfect tree for that planting. But cicadas did a number there.
But anyway, they will be in our area Kentucky, Tennessee,
(26:04):
a little bit West Virginia, Pennsylvania, south eastern Indiana, and
a few other areas. It's brewed fourteen. They usually come
out when the temperatures soil temperatures are right about sixty
five degrees, and they are consistent sixty five degrees soil temperatures.
You see them start to come out. They last anywhere
four weeks, maybe six weeks, could go to mid June,
(26:27):
depending on the weather. And when they come out. They
don't all come out the same time, although they come
out pretty close to the same time, but they'll last
over there. But anyway, no sprays. It's all a matter
of typically netting. I don't like using cheese cloth, but netting,
and there are cicada nettings that are available, so and
(26:48):
I remember when we had the big broods that hit
several years ago, you couldn't find cicada netting. Everybody ran
out in a hurry. So if you think you're going
to be in an area that's going to have them,
you might want to take a look at some cicada
netting if you have anything you have to cover up
to protect them during that six week period. But we'll
talk more about that as we start to get a
(27:09):
little closer to it, and we'll get that posted for
you for more information. But pretty interesting also was learning
about you know, we've talked about them on our show,
that hammerhead earthworm, which is a pretty crazy thing, and
of course the crazy worms or the jumping worms, both
non natives, and just now we're finding them just about everywhere,
and again not a whole lot you can do about them,
(27:31):
but just recognizing them and then when you do find them,
of course, try to destroy them. The thing about the
hammerhead worm is that if you would find one and
get mad with your shovel and cut it up into
six or eight pieces. It just thanks you because now
there's six or eight more of them that one does
reproduce or can regenerate that way, so kind of crazy.
(27:53):
But anyway, we'll talk more about that. And like I said,
I got a bazillion notes and lots of great ideas
for us to talk about future show. So well we'll
keep that in mind. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five to the garden foone lines, we shall go.
Matt in Kentucky, Good morning, Good.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Morning, ron sir. They give you an update on Uh.
I was just outside of looking around in my flower
garden in the in the vegetable garden, I've got daffodils
popped up. Naked ladies are showing their little heads coming out, Uh,
little crocuses, you can see them coming up. And then
(28:30):
my garlic which I plant garlic in the fall. Right,
it's already five or six inches high. But it was
that way, you know, before the snow and all that.
But it's still it's coming up, it's growing and uh,
you know, it's amazing how we had that snow cover
and as soon as that snow melted. You could see
those uh, those daffodils, and I have some silts coming up.
(28:55):
They were coming up underneath that snow. They were literally
It's just amazing how they can they can do that, you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Know, it's you know, I still say, you know, the
wonders of mother nature, and you know insects and the
bees and the birds and all that stuff. But when
you think about plants as well, how you know obviously
that's just in their their g's in their system, but
how do they know that? How do they? You know?
And and folks will panic, Matt. You know, there's a
lot of folks that when the snow goes away and
they see they're starting to come up, we'll go into
(29:20):
a panic and think something's going to happen. But the
thing of it is, I always say, you know what
they know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I got a question about the garlic. You know, I
don't know if you've ever grown garlic. Yes, when I
harvest it, you know, you'll have the main head, but
then sometimes you'll have a little brown uh tan, I'm
gonna I guess they're clothes. And sometimes what I do
I just pop them off because they're not. I just
pop them off from them back and around, and I
(29:50):
think those sprout garlic two.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
From the bulblits that are at the top where it
may have flowered.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Well, no on that like on the side of the
little brown, hard little things, I just I didn't. I
don't think they're edible. I just popped them off and
throw them back in the sword. And I think those
will sprout up like the next year those because I'll
find garlic just in different places. I never planted garlic.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
There, but but there it is, you.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Know, like the previous year I harvested garlic garlic out
of there. I didn't put anything back. But I think
those little brown clothes sprout too after that. Do you
think that's true?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
What could be? And that I'm just said here thinking
I don't recall ever pulling any of those off, But
are they viable? Are they really hard?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Be a little hard? They're not like part of the
they're like, I don't know, separate from the main the
main head of the garlic.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Right.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I know, I said that doesn't look edible. So I
just pop them off, throw them back in, and I
think they.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And you still you're seeing see them come up where
we're that you didn't anticipate them come out. Yeah, I'm
not sure. Like I say, i've grown, yeah, I do,
and I don't recall seeing those, But that could be.
I'll have to take a look at it and see
what that might might be. But i'll tell you what that's.
Another one is we've got, as a matter of fact,
coming on in our next hour. We got Bruce Frasier,
(31:23):
he owns a two thousand i think it's two one
thousand acre onion farm out in Texas, talking about growing
onions this morning. And I'll throw that at him also
because I think they do garlic as well. But it's
interesting how garlic especially is so easy to grow and
so easy to store, and you know, to grow your
own a garlic is a piece of cake. And again,
(31:44):
planning in the fall, which a lot of folks forget about,
that is actually better than doing it in the springtime.
You get better clothes, nicer clothes. It's just all around
better better planting time than doing it in the in
the springtime. And you can do them in containers as well. Yeah,
so a Matt always a pleasure. Appreciate the update. Thank
you all right, good talking with you. Quick break, we
(32:05):
come back. Roger and Dick from Dayton. You're coming up next.
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Speaker 1 (34:16):
Talking yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five, it's nice to have friends and gardening. I
just had a friend text sent me a text grows
a lot of garlics. Said, those brown bumps are not
actually not seeds or anything like that, said, it be
caused by all kinds of things, including a mite. The
bottom line is there are if it gets bruised, gets soft,
(34:37):
there are some mites I guess that can get on
the side of those can cause that in a reaction
to the clove. Just kind of like scabbing, a little
scabbing and there's these little brown things and you can
pick them off and go from there. But that's he said,
more than likely, that's what you're looking at when you
see that. So not a seed. And again the seeds
would be which was what I was asking earlier, if
(34:58):
that if those scapes to come up and they you know,
have the little flower on the top that's actually a
little bull what's up there will drop back down sometimes
that could happen drop down and being amongst the cloves possibly,
but you know, if they're kind of attached to it,
that's probably, like you said, was where it may have
been damaged by small mites or bruising or something like that,
(35:18):
and it just kind of callouses on that particular point,
and then you just kind of pick it off. But
I guess it's common enough that you know he right
away and new right away what you were talking about.
So there you go. It's always good to have friends
in low places, high places, and out in the garden
as well. To Cincinnati we go, Roger, good.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Morning, Hey, good morning Ron.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Roger? I'm doing great? How about yourself?
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Not too bad?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Prominently displayed on my honey do list for today is
winter seating some den spots in our backyard from this
past summer's drought that we had in our area, and
just wanted to get some pointers from you. I went
out and to our local seed store and purchased a
fifty pound bag of seed. So I'm ready to get
(36:05):
out there. I know I need to rake up the
leaves and make sure that the seed touches the soil.
But is there anything else I need to do to
prep that soil for winter seeding.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Nope, that's it. It makes it pretty simple. And you
know it's funny. Somebody asked me this week. I got
an email saying, you know, I can't get out and rake.
I just can't do it. Can I just go out
and broadcast in my lawn and needs to you know,
just need a general overseating. Can I do that without
raking and getting the debris out of the way. Well,
you think about it, many many, many years ago, we
did do that. I mean, you know, before a lot
(36:35):
of research was done, we would just go out there
and throw the seed out. And what you counted on
for dormant seating in the winter was you counted on snowfall.
You count it on rainfall to help wash that down
and get it to the soil. And then the whole
thing of dormant seeding, like right now, especially mid mid February,
is the freezing and thawing. And boy, this week, you
(36:55):
know we're looking at thirties and forties during the day
back down in the twenties at night. That's perfect because
now you're freezing and thought and that works it into
the soil. But you know, what you're doing is perfect.
The big thing right now is to get the debris
out of the way. And when you do rake, you're
rough on up the soil a little bit as well,
getting your seeding down. And if it's you know, if
(37:16):
it's bare areas, make sure you throw that seed back
out into the existing lawn as well, kind of feather
it back out so you get a nice little you know,
kind of trickles back into the existing lawn as well.
That's the most important thing right now, and let mother
nature freeze and thaw and work that seed into the
soil so it's ready to go for you. When the
weather breaks, the soil and air temperatures are just right,
(37:36):
that stuff can pop and start to grow. At that point,
what's going to be important, Roger is then applying a
starter fertilizer. And you can do that starter fertilizer for
the entire lawn, so it's not just for those areas
that you see. You can just put it on the
whole lawn. It's a great, great way to get you
off to a good start. Do remember that if you
do pre emergent herbicides. Most all of those will stop
(38:00):
grass seed from coming up, so unfortunately you can't use
your regular pre emergence in the springtime when you're doing
dormant seeding. But Scott's does offer their Step one for
newly seated lawns. It's a starter fertilizer plus a pre
emergent that does allow grass seed to germany. It gives
you about forty five to sixty days and then to
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allow the grass seat to germinate. Then it's done, it
wears out, and then you can come back in at
that point and put down a regular pre emergent if
you need to do that. But it gives you the
starter fertilizer, which we do know is very important as
that new seed is getting off to a good start.
But an answer to your question, raking out the debris,
roughing up the soil a little bit, you know, just
using a leaf rake or whatever, and then seating on
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top absolutely perfect. That's all you need to do.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Great.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
I asked the guy at the seed store too, because
the type that we put down years ago they don't
make that anymore, and he said, you won't notice any different.
It's all we're getting it. It's called fine lawn elite,
and he said, it'll look just like the stuff that
you already have down. He won't notice, you know, a
difference if you will, between what you have and what
you're putting down.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, and what's good about the turf typed doll fescues?
Highly recommend him And you know against they've been around
us probably we've been doing those for probably thirty years
now or so, but they just keep getting better all
the time. And he's right, So, you know what, no
matter what you would buy out there, some of them
can vary a little bit in color. But that's why
I like using a blend of them. You can use
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straight fine lawn, the elite, whatever it may be. Sometimes
I like doing a blend also, But you're right, they
just kind of blend together. The colors eventually blend together.
And that's why I was saying, kind of feathered out
into your existing as well. And I'll tell you, Roger,
one thing we have found with the turf type tall fescues,
even as tough as they are, deep rooting insect, low
on the insect issues, low on the disease issues, it's
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probably a good thing to come in on a turf
type tall rescue lawn about every three four maybe five
years max. And do a little overseating just to thicken
them back up a little bit. You know, that's one
seed is one plant. Some of the newer selections do
rise them a little bit, but not at all like bluegrass.
But so it might not be a bad idea over time.
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And obviously we had the drought and all that this
past year, but as you look through the future, it's
to about every cut put on your calendar every three
four years or so, go out and do a little
overseating just to help keep it thickened up. But otherwise
that turf typed off. Ask you. The new selections that
are coming along are absolutely gorgeous and they all work
together quite nicely.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
I did notice that on the label here that it's
got a date tested and then a cell by date.
Is the seed still usable past that cell by date?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Oh no, no, no, absolutely, they have to do that. They
have to test it on a regular basis so they
know what the germination rate is. And of course every
year past the first year of having it available to you,
the germination rate will start to decrease somewhat. But you know, no,
if you don't use it all up the first year.
The second year, you I doubt you even lose five
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to ten percent max. Of the germination rate. But after
two or three years down the road, it really does
start to drop after that point. But they do that purposely.
And if garden centers have seed left over at the
end of the year, their seed companies will typically come
in and retest that, relabel it, you know, and put
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a new label on for the next year, depending on
the germination rates and all that kind of stuff. But
they just do that for you, so it's kind of
like a best you know, best if used by date.
But that's part of the regulations of selling grass seed
out there.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
Perfect, all right, bron I appreciate all your help.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
All right, Roger, good luck with everything. Tell us how
it turns out this spring and when it all starts
to come up for you. And that's the whole idea
about dormant seating. The best time for seeding is in
the fall. We know that September October the ultimate time
for seating. This past year in our area, it was
so hot and dry, a lot of folks just couldn't
do it. I mean, it just wasn't possible. So the
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second best time for seating is dormant seeding. When is
dormant seating anytime during the could be late November, December, January, February,
even early March. Where the seed doesn't come up yet
you put it down, it's just going to sit there
and stay dormant until the weather temperature, soil and air
gets to that fifty to fifty five degrees where it
can start to germinate and grow. Dormant seating. What's so
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good about that As you put it down, mother nature
works it into the soil for you and it's in
place and ready to go as soon as the weather breaks.
Because your goal is to get that grass seat up
and growing and rooted in before we get into the
heat of the summer. If you do spring seating, which
unfortunately we sell more grass seed in the spring than
any other time in the rest of the year, it's
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going to folks get out and see that he's bears,
busing and whatever. But you know, you get the grass
coming up. Maybe you don't do it until May or
mid May, and all of a sudden, you know, the
grass comes up into May starting to fill in, and
by June we're starting to hit those ninety three tempts.
It can be really tough on that new grass coming up,
and you you're stuck with watering it a little bit
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more often during the summer just to make sure it
makes it through. So that's why dormant seeding is the
second best time. And again seed soil contact so so important.
Break the debris out of the way, then let mother
nature do the rest. If you can't do that, still
do orvan seed. Go out there and work it. And
if you do it this week, hopefully we could get
a little snow, you get a little rainfall, it helps
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to wash it off the leaves and off the debris
and down into the soil. You're gonna lose some of
the seed, there's no doubt. But if that's the only
way you can do it, I'd still do it. It's
the way we used to do it thirty or forty
years ago. But if you can get the bris out
of the way and get good seed soil contact, that
is what is so important. Slice seeding really helps you out.
All right, quick break, we come back. Riata Hikefeld coming
(43:49):
up next here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
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