Ron Wilson 3/8/2025 Hour 3

Ron takes your calls and offers his expert advice. We wrap up the show talking to Gary Sullivan.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Our toll free number eight hundred and eight two three
A two five five. Good morning. I am run Wilson,
your personal yardboard, talking about yarning as we move into
the month of spring. By the way, you don't forget,
probably heard it a million times already. Tomorrow morning, two
in the morning, Sunday morning. Uh, spring forward not my favorite,
but spring forward daylight saving time begins. I guess it's

(01:03):
a two o'clock. You got to do it before you
go to bed, so it'll mess up. But that starts
the clock.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Do it themselves now?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, well I don't think most of them do, but
none of them in my house do. Yeah, we're still
pretty much old fashioned, I guess, but haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Of course, the one in your car, you gotta fix that.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You gotta change that one. It doesn't change itself. So anyway,
don't forget to do that. And that's that would be
two tonight or tomorrow morning. So let's you stay on
time Eastern daylight saving time saving time, not savings saving time.
Talking about yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Don't forget our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com. I want to think Gary Backman, our Southern

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gardener in this morning. I want to think Rita Hikinfeld
obviously are erbalist and of course great recipe that you'll
find on our website and talking about curry, and that's
always one of those that gets very confusing. You know,
you see the curry plant, the silver foliage, which isn't
really the curry that you cook with that you think
it is. Then you have the curry leaf, which is
one that you do cook with, and an actual curry

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is a combination of things. So appreciate her being on
with us and explaining all that this morning. And again,
both of those two curry plants are are available out
there for you to to grow and and use as
you can use them, the one for the oil, one
for actually cooking with. So we appreciate that. Appreciate the recipes.
When you see readers recipes on our website. You know

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they're great recipes and they're easy, and they always been
tested and they always taste great. So check those out again.
You go to a website about eating dot com. And
then of course Steve Folks from the Cincinati Potanical Garden
and zool and I'm telling you and Steve's got this
trip coming up in Ireland, I wish I could go.
I've always wanted to go to Ireland. But going with

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Steve and I grouped to that. That's that's gonna be
a fun trip. Trust me, it's a ten dayer. It's
a long time to get to be away from me.
But you got to check that went out again. If
you're interested in that, go to the Cincinnati Zoo dot
org and you can find out more about it. But
if you don't live in the Cincinnati area wherever you're

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listening to our show from, and you happen to sometime
in the future be close enough that you would come
to Cincinnati. Put the Cincinnati Potanical Garden. And it is
the Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden, but I always think
it should come first. Sinctinnati Botanical Garden, Zoo. Put it
on your list, put it on your bucket list. I
guarantee you you will enjoy that trip. It is, you know,

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and again voted number one best zoo, best botanical garden
in the United States, and the greenest zoo slash botanical
garden in the entire world. It's great and it really
is a one huge potanical garden and you look through
and you see animals and lots of them there. They
do a great job there. As a matter of fact,
you know they're having babies there. The animals having babies

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there is outstanding. And you want to know why they
have such great reproduction success with all their animals at
the Cincinnti Botanic Garden and Zoo because of the botanical garden.
I'm sure that's the reason. Because if plant the animals
are so comfortable and relaxed and feel like they're at
their real natural habitat hey, they want to start family

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and I think that's one of the keys of their success.
And Steve Foltz, mister Goldenfinger, director of horticulture, and the
fine staff of horticulturists there and all the volunteers do
an outstanding job. You will absolutely you'll be taking pictures,
I guarantee through that whole thing of all the plants
and things that are in there. It's phenomenal. But put
it on your bucket list. Cincinnati Botanical Garden, Zoo and

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check out their website. It's Cincinnati Zoo dot org. They're
best of lists. You know, they don't have it, they
don't have a stake in this thing as far as
picking plants to you know that they're gonna get money
back from or anything like that. They do the plant trials,
here's the final results they're voted on, and here's what
they are, and it top rated annuals perennials. They just

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do grasses too. They got the whole nine yards. Go
their website, go to the gardens and then check out
all the best of lists. It's a it's a nice
referral list. And they have their pollinator plants on there
as well that they've done a lot of research on
that too. Talking about yarding at eight hundred and eight
two three eight two five five had a great question
this week from Tony talking about they had had a

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very large tree ground out cut down and then the
stump ground out. And you know anytime that happens that
where you grind the stump out or you have a ditch,
you know you have to go in and put a
new sewer pipe in or something like that where they
have to dig it that trench it out, put in
the pipe and then fill it back in again. It
always settles, right, You put all that back in it

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and it all settles back in and you wind up
with this little divot and you work with it for
a while till it finally stop settling. And so the
comment was, you know, what do I do because I
want to just grow grass on top of what's the
best way to try to handle that? And the way
I look at it, and I've had decent success is
I say, look, here's what you need to do. Where
they ground all that out, just get the stuff out

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of there. It's hard to sift out the wood chips
from the grinding of the stump and the soil. If
you can do that, great, But the more you can
get that those wood chips out of there, because as
they break down, we know it can cause a little
bit of a problem. Being in the soil. They throw
nitrogen and other nutrients for the decomposent decomposing process which

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can take away from the grass or whatever you want
a plant there. So, uh, it's best just to get
all that out of there. And the easiest thing to
do is just scoop it all out soil and all
scattered out in the woods or somewhere else. But get
it out of there and bring back in. Because he
had mentioned I'm going to get a bunch can I
just get a bunch of bags of top soil and
then fill that back in. No, you get all that

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out of there, but bring back in the native top
soil in your area. And what do I mean by that?
Go to wherever they sell, you know, loads of bulk
top soil, where they scoop up regular soil, shredded top
soil and put in your truck or whatever. That's what
you want to use. The stuff that's in bags ninety
nine point nine percent of the time is not just

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top soil. It's like pete and sand and maybe a
few things from the top and that's it, and it's
it's organic. It just doesn't work as a filler. Okay,
it's a soil amendment, a little bit of top dressing
for a seed base. But that's what that's for. Uh.
You want regular, good old fashioned shredded topsoil and replace

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this what you scooped out of that hole with that
top soil. And as you're doing that, just lightly walk
it in. What does that mean, step on top of it,
throw a bunch in there, step on top of it,
kind of walking in. We don't want to compact it
down where it's really hard and compacted but we just
kind of make it settle where you step on it.
And you know, if you've ever worked with shredded top soil,

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you put that out there and it's absolutely gorgeous, and
you create this it's easy to work with, and you
create this bed that's six inches high and you plant
it in about you know, after you watered about a
month and a half. Now it's only three inches high
because it settles down. So just walk on it. Don't
jump and stomp, just walk on it another six eight
ten inches. Walk on it six eight ten inches, walk

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on it, settle it in. You may even want to
go halfway through water it really well, soak it and
have the water help you to settle down. And then
the next day come back in and start the process
all over. But you're pre settling the soil as best
you can before you come back in and finally plant
on top. All right, so walk it in, water it in,

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Walk it in, water it in. Trust me, the time
it takes to do that over two or three day period,
it really will help out in the long run. And
when it's all said and done, kind of crust it up,
don't just level it out. Soil, cress it up an
inch or two and then water that in and give
it a few days, see how much it settles, and
you know, step on it and can you still say,

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can you step on it now without sinking? If you sink,
guarantee it's going to continue to settle. So you keep
working at finally you get it to where you think
you're in good shape, do a real light crest one
more time, just to allow for a little more settling,
and then go ahead and seed. But you want to
use native shredded top soil, not the bag stuff when

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it comes to filling back in something like that. If
for some reason you had to take the soil away
from around where you're planting, because you always want to
use the same soil back in that hole, but for
some reason, I don't know what it would be, you'd
have to take that out. Don't use that bag stuff.
Use that's only as a soil amendment. Use regular native
shredded top soil or top soil or soil from your

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yard to fill back in that hole. All right. And
once you do that, if by chance, over time it
still would settle, just to tad. It's easy to come
in and just top dress with a little bit of
top soil, put a little more seed on there, and
eventually you get the settling to stop. And it usually
takes a couple three or four years for that new
grass to mature enough that the color starts to blend

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in with the rest of the grass. You know what
I'm talking about. So when you're seeding that also throw
a grass seed into your existence turf to help get
that color out into the existing turf. Kind of takes
away the look of where it's been dug up or
where you ground out the stump. But again point being
is just get rid of the stuff that what's got
all the grindings and the chips in it and come
back with regular native soil. Shreded top soils easiest to

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work with and work it down, so it's you pre
settle it before final seating. Quick break, we come back.
Phone lines are open for you. Eight hundred eight two
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Speaker 1 (13:45):
Talking your gardening at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five don't forget I am Ron Wilson. Don't
forget that. If a gardening or landscaping project has the
word dormant in it, like dormant seating, dormant spraying, dormant pruning,
things like that, you know that means that you're doing
it while everything else is dormant. As the weather starts

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to warm up here and it's going to and as
soil temperatures are getting warmer and the air temperatures are
getting warmer, warmer, things are gonna start being not dormant,
and you're gonna pass up that opportunity. So if there's
things that need to have be prune while they're dormant,
you need to get on it soon you're going to
run out of time. Dormant spraying if you had those
lilacs that maybe had the scale, or you've maybe fruit

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trees that you want to just spray to get rid
of overwintering insects, or peach leaf curl where you have
to spray, you know, before they come out into leaf
or in the fall while it's dormant. You want to
do that before they start to butt out. So again,
keep anything that says dormant, dormant seating, of grass seed,
doing it while everything is still dormant. While the grass

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seat you put it down, it stays dormant until the
weather warms up enough for it to start to grow.
Get those things done soon, all right, because they're going
to start to run out of time again. The dormant thing,
ornamental grasses. Several emails this week, and I go ahead
and cut my ornamental grasses back. At this stage, absolutely,
we're in the march. They're starting to fall apart a
little bit. I'd say, he's a good thing to go

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in there. How far do I have to take him back?
All we're trying to do is get rid of all
the old stuff that may fall over and look bad.
You know, where these grow and they're not maintained. All
that stuff just falls down, becomes like leaves underneath it,
and the new grass comes up out of the center
of that. It just looks really messy. So we cut
them off in the spring or during the winter, early spring,

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during the winter, get rid of all that old stuff
so it doesn't look so messy. So you know, anywhere
four to six inches above the ground for some of
those major clumps is great. Six inches, no problem, that's fine.
That'll work just nicely for you. Some of the other
ones you can take pretty much back to the ground
an inch off the ground or so. Again, our whole
goal is just to get rid of the bulk of

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the foliage on the top, so we clean it up
so it looks nice when that new grass starts to
come out. That's something you want to do while they're dormant,
because once they start to grow, if you go in
there and cut off that new growth and it has
a cut look to it, now there's other leaves that'll
come up and kind of go around those, but you'll
still have kind of that cut look. So again, we
want to remove that before they start to regrow. Loriopy,

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or sometimes referred to as monkey grass, loriopy can be
done now. I typically wait a little bit longer till
just before it starts to pop, and then clear all
of that off there. I have left it in some cases,
and I've experimented over the years leaving some of the
loriopy foliage laying on the ground as the new foliage

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came up, and it actually just disappeared fairly quickly. Or
I could grab it and just kind of pull it away,
and that wasn't too bad. But again I usually wait
till right up until it's ready to pop out, and
then I remove that off of there. But point being is,
if it has dormant in what you're doing, you better
get on it soon, because these plants are not going
to be dormant. It won't be very much longer. They're

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gonna be starting to break back out. All right, back
to the guarding phone ies, we shall go to Ohio. Carl,
good morning.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Hey, good morning. We're calling from down here in Ireton,
all the way at the bottom of the state.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Yes, sir, we love feeding the animals around here. We
feed black oil, sunflower seed, thistle, and we also use
cracked corn and we put that on the ground for
the doves around here and stuff. What we've noticed is
in the warm weather, whether it's December or January, when
there's a warm spell, we have tons of honey bees

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covering that crack corn and they'll get in there and
they roll around and everything. And it may not be
a gardening question, but we're just really curious at what
possibly they could be doing out in the extreme cold
weather when there's a warm snap, rolling around in the
crack corn.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's a great question, and we do get that this
time of the year or a little bit earlier, and
it's a great question, and it does happen. And the
kicker is twofold one. Is you get a day, a
sunny day forty five to fifty degrees, like just one day,
honey bees will come out of those hives and I
call it a poop flight, but it's they actually come

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out and go to the bathroom because they don't go
to the bathroom inside that hive, and it has to
be forty five to fifty degrees for them to come
out of there. So they wait for one of those
days like that and they will quick exit, come out,
clean out the bottom, you know, do their thing, do
their number. And if they're out there, they're also foraging,
looking for something that may be in flour, which a

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lot of times nothing is in flower at that point.
So if they go to a bird feeder and they
see that and they get close to burd feeder that
the dust at the bottom from the cracked corn is
very similar to pollen and they will actually get in that,
collect that up, take it back. It really doesn't work
very well for them, but they will do that anyway.

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And take it back to the hive and collect it
up just like they would pollen and take it back again.
So that that's why you see them hanging around the
base of a bird feeder, especially if you use crack corner,
picking up that little dust kind of like it's polling
and taking it back to try to consume it and
use it back in the hide. But but they do
that forty five to fifty degrees sunny day or warm day,

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they're out, they're doing their bath, going to the bathroom,
cleaning up a little bit, trying to find whatever's in flower,
hitting your bird feeder, and then back in again. And
that's what that's all about.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Well, that's very interesting. I really appreciate it. We've wondered
for years and years because we put a lot of
that on the ground for the like I said, for
the does, and right, of course the squirrels come. But
we really appreciate you answer that question.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
All right, Carl, good talking with you. Appreciate the call
and the listening to our show. And let's see here,
we got a minute to go, so I'm not gonna yeah,
so I'm not gonna go, Dennis. I want you to
hang on, uh during the break, we'll come right back
to you because there's not enough time to answer your question,
but we will get back back to you as quickly
as we can. At eight hundred and eight two three
eight two five five. Don't forget our webs it's Ron

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Wilson online dot com. I started to talk about the
plan of the week, and I started talking about the
winter annuals. I added to that, which is the actual
plan of the week, dandelions. And the reason I put
dandelions on there is because now the soil temperatures are
starting to warm up air temperatures, you're gonna start to
see dandelions starting to come into flower. Everybody's gonna want
to do about the dandallions. Leave them alone. Let the pollinators,

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the early bees, the early pollinators, let them enjoy those,
all right, And then if you want to get rid
of them, we'll talk about how to do that later.
But when those dandallions come into flower, leave them alone
at this stage and let all the pollinators enjoy those
for time being. I'll address that after the break and
taking your calls at eight hundred a two three eight
two five five. Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson,

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how is your garden growing?

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We're talking yard ning at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. Little frog in the throat there,
throat there. I am Ron Wilson. Uh, don't forget our website,
Ryan Wilson online dot com.

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And mark bills. You know, love Subway coins, coins, all
that stuff. Anyway, all of it's good. Uh. The plan
of the week is is dandelion. And the reason I
picked the dandelion is because Ali, we're warming up, you're
gonna start to see dandelions popping up everywhere. Especially in areas
where the lawn is stand alongside your driveway, in the
the sidewalk and on the hillsides and things like that,

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where they can grow without competition from all the grasses.
We know that. But when they do come up in
the springtime and they do start to flower, just leave
them alone, all right. And if your neighbors have a
fit with it and all that kind of stuff, just
tell them we told you to leave them alone. Because
the pollinators do early pollinators the early disonal They do
enjoy the pollen from the dandelion. But what I think

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is and the best time, believe it or not, to
treat dandelions. If you're going to go through and spot
treat with a weed killer, it has dandelions listed on
the weed killer. The best time to do that is
actually in October. But the second best time would be
after they're finished flowering. And you say, wait a second,
I wait till after they're in the puffball stage. Those

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seeds are going to go everywhere. Well, we don't worry
about that because if the lawn is good and thick,
they're not going to pop back up again. So after
you get rid of the dandelions, your goal is to
come back in and thicken up the areas where the
dandallions were growing. Nevertheless, they are great for the pollinators,
so do leave them alone while they're in flour But
I think what's funny about the dandelion has got such
a great history behind it, So if you go there,

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you'll read about it. But believe it or not, at
one time there were no dandelions in the United States
of America, no dandelions, no crabgrass. Brought here by the
Europeans for a whole bunch of purposes, especially the dandelion,
and it makes it a workhourse of a plant. The roots,
which can really grow deeper than most of our tree roots,
boiled and made for teas for medicinal purposes. The foliage

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was grown for harvesting and eating like you would any
other type green, cooked or fresh. The unopened flower buds
were eating along with the foliage. And then the open
yellow flowers are harvested and used for making dandelion wine,
and you can batter those. And this is this is
for real, And if you've never done this before, everything
else is too. If you've never done this before, A

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right the morning that a dand and lion opens up
fresh tanded lion flour. Pick it, rinse it off, dry it.
You can batter those with a with one of your
favorite batters that that you would use like on the
fish or whatever it may be, add chicken, whatever, and
then deep fry those just the flour itself and eat

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those and they taste like deep fried mushrooms. It's a
great little snack, great conversation piece as well. But the
point being is there a real workhourse of a plant,
and that's why they were brought here for that reason. Unfortunately,
and you'll find dandelion seeds of all different types available
in a lot of the seed catalogs grown for the green.
So you know, unfortunately in our lawns a lot of

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it don't like things that are flowering, so we try
to get rid of the dandallion. Personally, I think you're
going to see a lot of the newer generations. Let
them grow. But the whole thing, if you don't like
dandelions in your yard, get the lawn thicker. That's the
bottom line. The thicker the turf, the fewer weeds and
the fewer insects and these problems that you're going to
have but anyway, dandelion is the plan of the week.

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And again let them flower for the pollinators, and after
you read more about it, you may just want to
leave them alone. Had an email this week also about grubs.
Somebody said they had some grub, had some grub issues
that showed up. The dammage showed up late summer, early fall,
pulled up the sods. Sure enough, lots of grubs there

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and what to do. And the thing of it is,
if you see grubs in the fall, late summer and fall,
the damages you at that time. If you can treat
with a grub killer, not the preventor, but the killer
usually takes about two weeks, but that takes care of
mo of them at that point. Water did well. If

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you don't do that, you weren't able to and you
want to come back this spring. A couple of things
to look at. One is, in the springtime we don't
treat very much for grubs because they really don't feed.
A whole lot grass is actively growing the whole nine
yards usually not a problem. So you can kind of
go through the spring season without treating. Come in with
your grub preventter. Grub preventter in June or early July,

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and that'll cover you to take care of the eggs
before they which you know, they lay eggs, the beetles do,
and that'll stop those eggs from growing and obviously prevents
them from maturing and causing any damages. If you're going
to do some seeding this spring and you're afraid that
maybe the grubs are going to go after your seating,

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you know, again you don't have to treat, but if
you want to, what you may want to do is,
you know, is a dormant seed right now and then
do a little bit of spring seeding a little bit
later on. Let's give it, give this about two or
three weeks to work its way into the soil. The
grub killer then come back and sew your grass seed,
which will put us into late March early April, but

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give it time to settle in and then go from there.
And that's a grub killer, all right. Grub preventter is
used sometime in June or July or even early August
to carry you through the summer. They usually last about
ninety days. So when the beetles of all the different
types of beetles that are out there that fly around
they lay their eggs all right. So the grubs that
you see in the soil, a lot of folks think

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they're Japanese beetles. Some are, but most of them aren't.
And so they lay the eggs at different times during
the summer season. These grub preventters ninety day period of action.
Typically they'll lay the eggs, the eggs will start to
do their thing, hatch out and start to go through
their stages. It takes care of them into that very

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oler stage before any damages can occur, so you know,
keep that in mind. And again, treating very rarely done
in the springtime, but you could if you wanted to
make sure you water whichever one you use, make sure
you water in well. Oh and one last thing, the
temperatures need to warm up for those grubs. They move

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down in the soil over the winter cold times and
then he come back up to the top to mature
and hatch out as a come back as an adult.
The salt temperatures have to warm up for them to
do that, So you've got to watch the soil tempts
getting to warm up into the fifties as they start
to move up at that point, and that's when you
want to do it, so again, put it down, give
it a couple of weeks, water it in, wroot it

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really well, and it probably wouldn't be until late March
early April. Do it at that point, give it a
couple of weeks to work, and then come back and
put your grass seat down at that point, which becomes
spring seating, which is the third worst time to do it,
but you've got no other option. All right, quick break,

(29:55):
we come back a little home improvement from the man,
the myth, the legend, mister ge Gary Svan. I wonder
what he's going to talk about today here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (32:02):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, and
as I promise, it is time for the man, the myth,
the legend. He is the most listened to home improven
show host in the entire Solar system. His website Gary
Sullivan online dot com. That's Gary Sullivan online dot com.
Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only Gary Son.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
How do he do to you? Mister Wilson?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You call me, how do duty?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
No, I said a how do duty to you?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Mister? Howdy duty to me?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Howdy doody?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Do you did you watch Howdy Duty? Uh? A little bit, yeah,
I think when that's actually actually how do you duty?
Is a little bit.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Before our time?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Well your time? Yeah, my time especially.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Gary was just a kid when it was on.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I no, he wasn't. He was little, pretty little when
that was on.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, I kind of vaguely remember.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's probably more of a captain.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Kangaroo never was a big fan.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Didn't like him like mister Moose and Dancing Bear.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I just didn't like them.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Bunny Rabbit.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Just I don't know. I feel guilty now saying that
ding ding ding ding.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Ding ding ding dingn How do you turn the music
off with a knob? No, he threw his keys on
the key keyholder.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You never know what we're going to talk about.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
His music would shut off the theme song. That's where
mister green jees came along. And you've referred to me
as mister green jeans.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Before the gardening guy.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I guess big article this week. I told him I
emailed it to you and say an appealing breaking, an
appealing front door, and how importance they are, but you
know what they really are important. And we we talk
in our industry about how important curb appeal is, you know,
and all that, and how to direct the eye to
go to the front door, which is important. We don't

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want to focus on the garage door. We want to
focus on the entrance.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
In the return on investment, I got in this big
chat last week about that, it is the entry door
and the garage door. It's the largest return on investment.
Not that you should do all your you know, all
your sprucing up the house based on the ROI, but
that's that's where it's at.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
But you do get your money back.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah. I think it's also a fine line too on
the entry door. You talk about curve appeals. There's different
houses that like shock value to their entry door. Did
you ever notice that.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I was going to ask you if there was a
popular most popular color front front door. I mean every
now and you see that red, it's like.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Well, red, black, white, I would think would be your
most populars. I don't have any data on that, but
you know it's changed over time. You know, we see
a lot of you know, fiberglass, wood tone doors now,
but just the other day, I saw a nice, beautiful
house and it had a teal colored door on it,

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and teo is nowhere else to be found on that house.
I'm not saying that's bad. I'm just saying sometimes we'll
really use that front door as a strong focal point
and I'll leave that for the homeowner to decide if
that's a good idea or not. How about our front doors? Seriously,

(35:25):
is there a ti anywhere else? Because usually when I
meet your place, oh, we gardened by you know, the moon,
so it's always dark, So it's always dark. I never
get to see the house.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's right, that's true. Uh So you know, so when
we're looking at replacing front doors or putting in new house,
are the metal doors versus the wooden doors one better
than the other as far as if.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
They all have their own values? And I'll tell you
the price of entry doors is out of this world
right now. Used to get a good front door for
about three thousand bucks and I'm talking to installed right yeah,
you can look about ten to fourteen now what yep?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Yeah. I had somebody calling yesterday or not yesterday, but
last weekend, and this fellow was really honked off. He goes,
tell me, tell me, tell me why that's happening. I said,
you know, tell me why eggs are seven dollars a dozen.
Don't say bird flu. I don't know it happens, right,
if you've been paying attention, everything's going up. Yeah, but yeah,

(36:34):
entry doors are expensive, metals a little less, and you know,
the fiberglass is still I would say, the most stable door.
And you can paint them, you can stain them. But
if you stain them, you better stay on top of it.
You don't want to be stripping that door and restaining it.

(36:56):
So maintenance and maintenance would be adding a code of
a spar you're a thing about every other year. Then
you'll never have to strip it. It'll always look good.
Maintenance is always key, as you know in gardening too, yep.
And so if you stay on top of it, you're
not going to have a big project. If you don't

(37:16):
in one of these days, you're gonna have a big
old project.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Well, I was looking at and I was also going
to bring up the fact of how things have changed
over the years. You know, Carly and Justin my youngest daughter,
and they bought up that huge homedown and it's what
one hundred and twenty five years old, three story, nine
foot basement ceilings and their back door. They try to
keep the original back door still going. And everything was

(37:41):
just getting too old. It was just time to replace everything.
And they took that out. Contractor came in and replaced
that with a unit that is black. It's really cool.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
And the threshold and everything is a part of the
everything right, it's like formed right, it's like, you know,
just gets set in there. It just gets set in
the thing and and it fits perfectly around the door
and the way it comes up behind the door and
then the door, and it's the most solid thing. I
just stood there looking at it, like wow, look at that.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Huh yeah. Oh yeah. And it's it's beautiful, it's gorgeous.
It's a classy. Look.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
My daughter when she rebuilt her house, she put in
black windows, black doors, painted house really attractive.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, that's kind of their their theme also. Yeah. Yeah,
And it's a lot of stone, a lot of the
big huge, you know stone and stuff. But I tell
you what, I was impressed with that thing. I mean
it's and it was expensive. I mean it was and
it took a lot to install. It just wasn't you
to take everything out do whatever. But man, you talk
about solid I mean you went back there with that
old door in the wintertime. It was the same temperature

(38:53):
on the inside of that door. It was what was
outside just about. But they were trying to maintain the
integrity of the house and you try to keep as
much of that as you can. But there was a
point that you know, just wasn't right to do that.
And man, I haven't bought a new door, framing and
all that. I looked at that when that is pretty
darn cool.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, yeah, those all one piece things are are very very.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Talking about efficient, yeah, well, seiling it off.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I mean, we just keep trying to find more efficient
ways to do everything. I mean, and it is amazing
how efficient our homes are. I know, people still getting
their you know, energy bill and grumbling and in me
too as the roses go up. But we keep making
you know, as we change things in our homes, and

(39:43):
you know, year after year after year, add a little
piece here and a little piece there, it does start
getting It makes a big difference.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, they still have the old windows with the rope.
I mean, they're in good shape. All the frames are well,
are nice, but they're the five by five windows, right
that still go up and down?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Well yeah, in front of those Yeah, well I'll tell
you what you know. I mean, with the quality of
glass that we have now, with heat reflectivity and different
things along those lines, there's certainly a lot of improvement
can be made to the windows and even keeping them in.
I think it's Marvin windows. They make a one that

(40:23):
actually fits in kind of like you were talking about
that door, to keep that same integrity, but to have
you know, the really high quality low E glass and
the frame and the structure and all that. But that's
a pretty penny doing that. Also, it takes your water
recover that that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
But that's not the BI six gets six free.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Well no, no, this is a different one. But having
said that, though, like Champion.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Windows and stuff, well oh no, I was just yeah, yeah, no,
I was saying, they.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Make, you know, the vinyl replacement windows, but now they
have a process us where it can look like wood
and it's not just a laminate. It's actually baked into
the vinyl, kind of like what would be on a
steering wheel in a car. You know, it looks like wood,
but that's not wood, right, And they have that same
finish on their windows. So, you know, window manufacturers, door manufacturers,

(41:20):
they are trying to keep in with the historic integrity
of a neighborhood they're having. Doesn't mean you have to
do it, but that's available.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Do you remember when we did that all red garden
at the Home and Garden Show and we had Champion
windows coming fact that I'd made a waterfall out of
the windows. Yes, and that was the first time I
think they were introducing that color color into the custom
colors into the frames, right and all that That was
several years ago.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
It's probably be a good ten or twelve in it.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Maybe no, No, I would say a little bit more
than or net.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
But yeah, that was And they do the black windows now,
they do the wood windows. They do you know, I
mean everybody's you know, things are always changing. You gotta
change with the times. And I was getting ready to
say when you and I were little boys were on
black and white houses were pretty popular. I've got pictures

(42:17):
of me about three years old standing out in front
of our house. Our house was black and white. Oh yeah,
we had a black door, white painted sighting and trimmed
out black windows. It's a sharp look.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
What are you gonna talk about today? Anything besides turning
your clocks forward.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
We're gonna cover all kinds of things, little things too, uh,
you know, nail pops and dry wall, squeaky floors. That's
all due to dry humidity. And we're gonna talk about
that again because everybody's writing me emails going why is
everything pulling away from the wall this year? Well, because
it's drying.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Your house and Gary Sullivan always has the answers. Thank you, sir.
You bet you check this website at Garysullivan online dot com.
Thanks to Gary ry Bachman, Thanks to read a hiking fellow,
Steve Folks. Of course Gary Sullivan as well for joining us.
And thank you Danny Gleeson for all that you do
as our producer, because without Danny Gleeson and the other stuff,
what happened. March sixteenth, Next Sunday is his birthday. Don't forget.
Now do yourself a favor. We're gonna plant that tree

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or two or three, plant those native plants and selections,
be Paul Nator friendly and have the best weekend of
your life. See it, dream Tom or not.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
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