April 26, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding on this post Arbor Day.
Happy Arbor Day to you. I hope you got out
yesterday or today or tomorrow and you're planning a tree
or two or three or more. A lot of folks,
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a lot of stuff, festive things going on for Earth
Day and giving a lot of waste some ceilings. Great.
Like I've said, I'm all for Earth Day, it's great,
but it kind of took away from Arbor Day, you
know what I'm saying. When it was just Arbor Day,
everybody you know, focused on the trees. Now the trees
go for Earth Day. They're kind of rooted together because
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they're so close to each other as far as the date.
But it just kind of Arbor Date is. It's the
Rodney dangerfield. It takes the back seat, no respect. But
you know, you know what we're talking about. So you
need to get out your locally owned independent garden centers,
nurseries and get that right tree for the right location,
your yard, the neighbor's yard, the church, the park systems.
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There are so many places downtown cities, the park. They
all want trees, all right, So do your part. Get
out and plant a tree or two or three. Do
it this weekend in honor of Arbor Day and Earth Day.
But get out and plant and get the kids involved,
grandkids involved, get the family involved. So some day you
can go back and say, remember we went and planted
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those trees in the park or downtown, in the city,
or in the neighbor's yard they didn't even know about. Now,
don't do that, ask them first, or in your own
yard if they've got if you got room for that
as well, you know, and again somebody was it was
somebody talking about the curb appeal, how important that is
to your home, and you know, trees came up in
the conversation. And I'm telling you, if you look at
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a house, if you go to look at a house,
and you know, you pull up and of course you
look at all the different things that make curb appeal work. Obviously,
if Gary Sullivan was on the show with me right now,
you'd be talking about having that front door looking spiffy
and the garage door, which are the two big things
that you see on the house itself looking good, and
the sidewalk and the driveway asphalt looking good in the concrete,
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an'll tak care. But then, of course what compliments all
of that is all of the landscaping, the landscape beds,
and the trees and the lawn, and of course if
none of that looks good, it it just doesn't work right.
So they all come together, and you know, you look
at that if you're looking to maybe you are going
to sell your house later on, or you just naturally
want good curb appeal because you want your place to
look good because it says it says you. You know,
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when you look at your house, it says who you are,
So good curb appeal says you're a good person, and
you know that's you're doing the right things. But the
properly planted the right tree, right locations, properly located trees
in that front yard can really make a major difference
in that curb appeal. If you don't have any trees,
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I would consider doing that. And again maybe one, two three.
It depends on size of your your yard obviously, but
can be a very important factor in creating a good
curb appeal. And if you're planting trees and now's a
good time to do it. Falls a good time to
do it as well. Do me a favor. Once you
pick the right trees for the right location, got them
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away from the house, got plenty room for them to grow,
et cetera, et cetera, properly a place. Don't forget the course.
When you're planting. You got to call eight one one,
call before you dig. Got to get get the utilities
marked before you dig those holes. Very it's a law
no matter where you live. So make sure you do
that eight one one, have everything marked first. But when
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you're planting those trees out in the yard, do me
a favor. I don't care how big the tree is.
Make the circle that's around that tree. And you're gonna
put a circle around that tree and put mulch down, right,
I want you to make that circle at least at
least six feet in diameter minimum. I don't care if
that tree is four feet, five feet, eight feet, twelve feet,
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whatever it may be. And if it's a huge tree,
make make it even bigger. If you if you get
involved with the arbor or the vermire digger that comes
in with a three or four or five inch tree,
make it even bigger. All right, make it eight ten
foot diameter. Do it now, Do it right away. Don't
wait till the tree gets larger. Do it now, and
you will be amazed. How much better those trees one
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look from the street having a larger circle of mulch
underneath that tree, and how much better they will perform
having that larger circle of mulch underneath those trees than
having grass growing there. It's research has proven it. So
promise yourself six foot diameter, no less, and you'll see,
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you know, four feet that's fine, you know, no go
to six feet. Just take it out six feet. Let's
go for it to make it look good. It does work,
and it does help the tree much more appealing from
the curb. Obviously, lawn very important. I I you know,
as far as you know, keeping a nice and thick
You keep the lawn nice and thick through cultural practices,
mowing on a higher level, feeding when need to be fed,
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watering when need to be watered, and by increasing the
bed sizes around the foundation around the trees, and that
you actually reduce the amount of law you have there.
But you still have a nice lawn, that nice green.
To connect it all together, I heard talking about you know,
in today's market. Now we've got the flowering lawns, you
might want to consider flowering lawn. Well, I'm all for
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the flowering launch for the pollinators, but it may be
something that you first of all check with your HOA
and your community, your township. Not all of them are
acceptable of that, and if not, you can do it
in your backyard. And I think that would be great.
But not everybody wants a flowering lawn, so think about
that as well. If you're trying to sell the house,
you might want to just stick with the normal turf,
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but again, nice green, keep it the you know, take
care of that lawn and mow it higher if you want,
at a higher level. Guarantee you. That's one cultural practice
is really going to help your turf that starts together
tie together. Now you've got the trees that are nice
and mult you've got the landscape beds. Make them deeper.
If your landscape beds right now in front of your
house are four feet deep, make them five to six
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feet deep. Take them out further, get a nice edge
on there. Maulch it. You know what kind of mault
you use is up to you. I heard it mentioned
something about you know, used gravel or rock mulch, and
then once you put it down, it's always there. If
you're thinking about using rock malt stone for malt around
your house, think about it about ten times before you
do it. I like the looks of stone mulch. I
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like it in some areas. I don't like it in
some homes. I mean, sometimes it doesn't look very good.
Sometimes it does. It's more expensive than using bark mulch.
Once it's down, it's there. It doesn't go away, it
stays there. But there are pros and cons to using
gravel and stone as a malt versus organic bark mulch
or compost. Yeah, it does help to keep the weeds down,
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does a pretty good job, but over time, through wind
and erosion, silt starts to blow into that and weed
seeds can start to come up through the stones as well.
You may not think about this ahead of time, but
when you put stone down, you should actually put a
landscape fabric down first. Then the stone's on top. Now
you deal with landscape fabric, which I do not like doing.
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And the only time I recommend it is in a
pathway in a vegetable garden or understone, but you want
to do that underneath it and stone on top. If
you're cleaning out debris, it can be a little bit
tough sometimes, So there's pros and cons to both. I
would personally, and not everybody likes the stone maults. Again,
if you're looking to sell your home, that might not
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be the way to go because I look at that
and I'd say, man, if I don't like that, I've
got to haul all that stuff out there. Because if
for somewhere down the road you don't like that stone mault,
guess what, somebody's got to haul it out. And it
was really tough hauling it in. It's even tougher getting
it out of there. So think that one through. But again,
nicely mult whichever one you would decide to use, but
make the beds bigger and it's more impressive that way,
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nice edge on those beds, and then of course maintaining
your plants as well, just doing those minimal things. Color
by the front door. Don't put it. You don't have
to put it anywhere else if you don't want to,
but put color by the interest, whether it's in containers
or in the ground. Oh and by the way, if
you use a stone mulch. You do limit yourself as
far as what you're going to grow in there. You
can't grow things that would spread out. You can only
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grow in their plants that are individuals because they can't
spread out because of the gravel. Can be limiting on
your landscaping as well. But color by the front door
and containers or whatever it may be. And you put
all that together and now you're really starting to bring
some nice curb appeal, no doubt about it. So you know, again,
take a look at that. If you're thinking about selling
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the home later on this year, or just need to
kind of spruce up that front, take a look at
all those different things. Get with your local owned independent
garden centers, local designers. They can help you out, come
up with some sketches, give you some good ideas and
it doesn't take a whole lot to help increase the
curb appeal of your home. But again, plant those trees.
Make sure you promise me a minimum of a six
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foot circle of mulch around those trees. All right of mault,
don't use the plastic things you lay down or whatever,
maulch on top, and the trees will do better. It
looks better, great curve appeal and right tree, the right spot.
And it's harbor day weekends, so get out and plant
a tree or two or three. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 1 (13:38):
Talking Yard at eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five to Cincinnati, we go rag in morning.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Yes, Hi, Ron, I live up north of you in
the west Chester area.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
And last summer's early spring, I planted some flowering shrubs.
I planted something called the sonic bloomy bloom with galia,
which is gorgeous this time of year. It's just budding
out and really nice red flowers. I planted some endless
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summer hydranges and also some something called groovy grape. Butterfly
bush in the department got carried away with that. Here's
the thing. The butterfly bushes look dead. I mean there's
maybe one or two little leaves coming out from the bottom.
We had a really hard winter here in our area.
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I know you're national north of Cincinnati. A lot of
snow and very cold temperatures. Do you think that that
is hopeless or it was just a few odd leaves
coming out of the bottom.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
No, I'll tell you what you know. I look at
butterfly bush as a woody perennial, and they say woody
perennial because most of the time, if you have any
kind of a winter at all, and if you remember,
think back to the fall, as warm as we were,
and I'm I'm actually I'm your neighbor. I live in
the Mason area, So there you go.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
But the.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
If you think back to the fall, they stayed very warm,
very late. Those things had leaves right to the very end.
So they don't shut down until we get, you know,
really into some cold weather and they're still kind of active.
So if the weather drops and it gets really cold,
and all of a sudden, this plant that was somewhat
active exposed to these colder temperatures and even though we
had the snow cover, which was great that helps it out,
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they have a tendency to die back, and so they
they will do that. But the good thing about budlayo
or butterfly bush is the fact that they usually come
back from the root system, so you cut them back hard,
cut them pretty much within an inch or so of
the ground, and then they come right back up. And
they need really warm soil and air temperatures because they
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were usually one of the last ones to leaf out.
That crate Myrtle hibiscus usually the last plan ask to
leaf out in your in your landscape because they need
warmer tempts. And then they typically come right back up
from the root system. So you know, I would be
taking everything off of the top, uh, and just wait
and see what's going to happen. Give it about two
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or three more weeks. As the temperatures warm, you should
see that things start to pop. If you don't, sometimes
they don't. Sometimes they have enough root damage that you
only get a couple of leaves that come up and
that's about it. So but you'll know for sure in
about two weeks or so of warm weather. It should
tell you by then.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Okay, So so prune the heck out of it right
down yep the ground, you got it?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
See yep?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
All right, very good, thank you, all right, good talk
your show. It's great, and I have a good day.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Hey, you too appreciate the call. Good question. And as
a matter of fact, that one of the notes I
had here is you know, giving things time, bud Ley,
Like I said earlier, hibiscus, crape myrtles, things like that.
You know, they're one of the last ones to come
out into leaf for you. Uh, and they want that
really warm temperature. You've got to give them plenty of time.
Create myrtles in our area, and they're listed Zone six.
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A couple of them of Zone five took a pretty
good hit this past winter, and we're cutting them back
close to the ground. But we are starting to see
a little bit of sprouting closer to the ground. But again,
they need really warm temperatures high biscuits the same way
cut that thing back to the ground takes a long time.
All of a sudden they start to pop. Milkweed usually
one of the last ones to start to pop up
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for you well as well, if you planted something, you
haven't seen anything yet, and I hope that you did
plant some milkweed. It's almost like the trees. Everybody needs
to plant some milk weed for those butterflies. But not
only for the monarch butterflies. The other butterflies love them
the two, but most pollinators all go to hype to
milkweed for the pollen so in the nectar, so keep
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that in mind as well. Paul and Kentucky, good morning, Ron.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yes, sir, I have I've been using ground tree bark
for the last few years for molts and all. Yes,
you set, but I've got a terrible amount of the
purple dead metal and the other little white spring type
thing that comes up. Yes, and anything to suggests to
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get rid of it and to not be able to
knock it out of there.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The thing to remember, and you're probably talking about chickweed,
real small leaf, kind of flat, yeah, all right.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
The thing about both of those is that they're called
winter annuals, so they're both an annual. They grow flower
seed and die. So if you never did anything to
them in about i don't know, four weeks from now,
they'll start to turn yellow mush out and then they're
gone because they've done their thing. They start to grow
in September in October, so you put a pre immersion
herbicide in those areas in September that stops those those
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winter annual seeds from growing. So you really start to
cut back the populations. Now sometimes you'll still get a
few to pop up here and there. They kind of
hang in there over the winter. As soon as we
get a couple of warm days, they just explode. They grow,
they see, they flower, they see. So when you do
see them pop up, hand pulling thom is pretty easy
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because they're very shallow rooted, not much to them. Hand
pull them, or you can spot treat with a with
a vegetation killer as well if it's in an open area.
But the goal is to not let them flower and
set seed so we can stop the seed production, we
stop seeing more of them coming up. So pre emerged
herbicides in September, hand pulling, spot treating in the springtime
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as needed. You put the two of those together, and
the next thing you know, you don't see as many.
They always pop up. I've probably seen more of all
those winter annuals this spring that I think I ever have.
So you're always gonna have a few to pop up
here and there, but just don't let them flower and
go to seed. And Paul, I hate to say this,
but you know the thing of it is that and
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Hindbit and a lot of them are very edible. That
and the chick we very edible. So that you know.
The old saying is too. If you can't beat them,
you can always eat them.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
I sprayed them a couple of weeks ago and they're
dried up right now. Yeah, clean out the rest of them.
Is truckling good.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
To use on that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, it's a pre emergent.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Yeah, so yes, that will so. But let you say September.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
To put it down exactly, get it in September, get
it watered in, stop them from growing. Can they germany
ain and start to grow in the fall. So you
stop them from growing in the fall. Uh, and you
really cut back the populations at that point. Don't let
them flower the seed the spring. Now you really start
to work on getting those seed populations down. And again
they're gonna pop up here and there every now and then,
but not like you like they did before that. All right,
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quick break, we come back. You know who's coming up,
Buggy Joe Boggs. Here in the garden you're run Willson.
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It's just a professor horta culture educator for the Ohio
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Speaker 6 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I don't want to take up a lot of time.
I want to talk. Let's talk, Let's talk.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
And you know, I yeah, all right, I realize it though.
I'm actually a summer annual. You know, when you describe
those life cycles, I was thinking, oh, wait a second, No,
I'm not on in the winter.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know that's right, you know, so you would be
like a summer annual.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
A summer annual on the radio shows.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, let me let me ask you this I'm okay,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you. This is a
serious question I have gotten over the last probably two weeks,
including my own wife emailing me saying that she wants
this particular bogonia that's showing up on on the like
Facebook or Pinterest or whatever called like there's one of
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them called Moonlight Butterfly Bogonia, and they actually write the
descriptions about it and everything. Well, they aren't available. That's
all AI generated. Oh no, yeah, And I mean they
have a whole series of these these begonias that look
like butterflies. I mean they literally look like and that's
what it is.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And then they've got something called Cat's Eyes Dazzle Panda
face flowers, and I.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Is generating, it's generating everything, you know, the name and
the picture and all that.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, because it's not available. And they have like a
you know, like the place were you can order the
seeds and stuff and stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Well that is is that crazy? I didn't think. I
did not think AI was going to infiltratee hortic culture
that quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Well, somebody somebody's doing it. I mean, obviously somebody's doing it.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I had.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
My wife said she said, I want one of these?
Where do I get these? And I said, you know, Carol,
that's an AI generated plant. It doesn't exist. And then
all of a sudden, because it's out there, I'm getting
all kinds of somebody's like, do you grow these? Are
these available? It's like, uh no, no.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Sorry, now that is really no, I I this is
it's now I'm looking. I just I did a little
Oh my gosh, there's are a whole series of these,
yeah plants. Yeah, and now I see what you're talking about.
You know, that's interesting now that I look at the uh,
I look at the Bogonia that looks like well, the butterfly.
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I don't know how to describe it. I've actually never
realized how much when you look at Bogonia leaves there
is a bit of a resemblance to butterflies. You know.
I kind of hadn't noticed that before.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, yeah, but they do. Well, you're right, they do.
But this was, you know, this was one of these
one of these websites actually talks about the Bogonian and
the different types and how these are rex pogonias and
blah blah blah and it's like you know that they
have butterfly like leaves. Well they do, and I agree
with that, I understand. But then you look at these things,
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They're like that doesn't exist. That is really interesting photoshop thing,
you know.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well I'm looking at some hibiscus flowers
that I mean, it really does look like science. I mean,
let's say that rot. It's there are some of these
colors that you just that is too stark. Although you
and I both know that a long I'll tell you
a passion flower, for example, passion flower, it looks like
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something that doesn't It looks like it's a I generated
you ever knows that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, it looks like something at a dinosaur were sticking
his head around the corner. I think when you look
at that, it looks prehistoric to me.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
It really does. It doesn't. It's just the first time
I ever saw passion flower flower, passion fruit flower, I
I just it was it was mind boggling because I'd
never seen such an intricate structure like that. So, you know,
as I'm looking at some of these, now you've got
me onto this. I'm going to probably be at this
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all morning. You know, just all these ai generated images
and they are pretty fascinating. But it is a shame
that this is many people though in wild goose chases,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeh? Look the other one is called Cat's Eye flower,
so that one up. Check it are the site, by
the way, is uh registered in China.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well here we go. Yes, I see what you're talking about.
I really think that's pretty interesting. Yeah, well it's uh.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, you know the way of the world today.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
It's the way of the world and it can give
plant breeders goal a goal to achieve, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Now start working working on that plant.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
You know, you and I've been around long enough and
I I can't think of the examples, but different plants,
different flowers where there were no colors of a certain
you know, there's like no such thing as a a
purple you know, fill in the blank. You know what
I'm saying that you and I have been around long
enough to have heard these different things and experienced them
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until finally, you know, the plant beaters come along and
produce something that that was unheard of. And I've always
found that fascinating that uh and today, you know, there
still are some colors that just simply aren't available. I mean,
they're just simply not part of nature. But but you
know what I'm talking about. There were different colors different
(29:25):
you know, in the in the roses, for example, the
hybrid black.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, not dark maroon.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Well, no, exactly black. That's that's a very you don't want.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You don't want it. They've always worked on it, and
a they've gotten pretty good. Now. Pon Setti is in
a white.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was always a cream color or a yellow tint
to it, or you know that that type was never
a true clear white.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Yeah, yeah, I find that just so you think about.
That's one area that that I just find fascinating with
how plant breeders will just keep working, you know, working
towards that kind of goal. But now, of course we've
set the we've just set the bar much higher, haven't we.
You need to beg that you know has has leaves?
(30:20):
Those actually look like leaves rather than flowers, aren't they?
It looks like butterflies, that's yeah, of course. Wait a second,
isn't there a butterfly begunia? Now I think about it?
Too late?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Right, yeah, too late?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
So what were we going to talk about today? Aside?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I don't know I didn't. I didn't mean, I didn't
mean to throw you off there, but I mean, I
just look at that, Oh my gosh, because people are
people are I didn't know, people are asking for it,
and it's it's a you know, you got to say no,
I'm sorry that I hate to let you down.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
But.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
No, you didn't throw me off at all. That was
a really nice That was a nice trip down you.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Know weird world today today, you know, we got it
before we take a break. Today is a post Arbor Day.
Joe and I consider Arbor Day as the Rodney danger
Field of awareness days.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Isn't that true. I've long felt that way, and Arbor
Day has been around since before longer than the birthday. Yeah,
longer Earth Day, longer than Doughnut Day. Unfortunately, I think
although you know, we'll argue the importance of one another
or the other later.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
But any rate, Today's I think today's National Pretzel Day.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Oh, I know, that's interesting. That's you know, there is
a day for everything. Now there needs a day.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
For there is I mean, every day has got something.
I don't know, but I do. Arbor Day lost. You know,
it was a it was a major thing in one
time having an Earth Day came along and they're still
kind of rooted together because they're so close. But everything
kind of focuses towards toward Earth Day rather than Arbor Day.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
So well, you know, I get it too. I kind
of see where you know, Earth Day are talking about everything.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Exactly, and I said, I'm all for it one hundred percent.
You know, if it brings awareness, super I get it.
But it took away from Arbor Day and they probably
give away they give away more trees on Earth Day,
I think today, because they just tie them both together.
And I get it.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Yeah, But you know, you and I grew up Arbor
Day was it was very special. I mean in schools
the whole time you and I growing up, it was
it was a special day. And and and how many
trees are out there are from kids coming home, I
mean now big trees right right's coming home you know
with the arbor their Arbor Day tree. You know, a
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little tiny, suffering Norway spruce for example, you know, in
the Norway spruce just you know, little sprigs and amazingly
you know you're planting, and you know after and of
course by the time they got home, right, That's what
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I keep focusing it. I remember mine by the time
they get home.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
And be you know.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But it was amazing though, how many did well? I
mean there was a Norway spruce not far from where
I lived that, you know, the one of my classmates planted,
and I'm I'm pretty sure I can go back with
Google Earth and find a big tree, I mean bigger
than it should be in that spot, you know what
I'm saying that, Yeah, pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
By the way, I think you were a sophomore in
high school when Earth Day started.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, that willn't wait a second. Is it that recent?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah? I think it was nineteen seventy, the early seventies.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
You know, I actually thought earth they started later than that. Seriously,
I I there was a big deal this year about it,
the history, which I just you know, it escaped me
for some reason. And of course, you know, there's a
little bit of debate on who named it right. I mean,
there's some debates about as with everything, you know, just
a little bit. But I did not realize that you're
(34:24):
exactly right that it started, you know, when when you
and I were, you know, in our teens.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Right, our prime high school.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Days, our prime high school day.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
With that we got to take a break and find
out how much trouble Joe got into. No know, if
you've got something serious you're going to talk about. Let's
clean a slate and we'll talk about it after the
break with Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.
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Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two with a buggy. Joe Boggs you port
mister Joe Bogs OSU extension. Their website happens to be
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U Joe Buggs.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Speaking of you, I don't know where this is heading.
I don't even know why I said that. I was
thinking I was trying to get something working towards soil
mining bees.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Soil mining bees. We saw some really good we saw
some really good soil mining bees down at the Botanical
Garden and zoom.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
You did.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
On the corner, interesting.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Corner of one of the walkways there there's nothing planted there,
and ye, Justina Block pointed at I thought, well Steve's
I think saw him too. It and little holes and
they were just starting to do their thing.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah. Well, and I'm starting to get the messages and
af phone calls because you know, people do they are bees. Thankfully, though,
people are starting to connect the dots in this case
where you know, they're connecting it to them being very
important pollinators, which is true. But we still do occasionally get,
(38:15):
you know, the question, well, lease, you know, how do
I get rid of them? You know, they're worried about
getting stung, that type of thing, and so they are
not at all aggressive, are they? They're the most interesting bees.
I've melt down and we've talked about this taking pictures
right in the middle of what we call a colony.
(38:36):
But that's not exactly right. When you think of a colony, really,
that should apply to something like yellow jackets, you know, horns,
you know, social insects. In this case, they're individual females
that are creating the burrows into the soil and then
they attract males and the males mate with them. But
(38:57):
they're individual burrows. Ye, they're all There are a lot
of them together, so you think, well, wait a minute,
you know, is it appropriate to call them a colony
or do you call them a collection? And I like
the word colony because it does it's sort of like
an apartment complex, right, or it's sort of like a
little town. But at the end of the day, these
(39:18):
are very important early season pollinators and I always think
of them in an our part of the country as
showing up at about the same time that we have
certain you know, of the spring ephemerals blooming. It's like
spring one of my favorite names for a flower spring beauties.
(39:40):
And it's as a matter of fact, there are some
sail money bees. They're very tuned into that particular plant,
in that particular flower. But as far as what would
we do about them, this kind of also connects back
to something. You know, how many times have we talked
about about lawns, about turf crafts, about the suffering from
(40:02):
last summer where a large part of the US had,
including Ohio, you know, had a very serious draft. And
so we do have lawns that have openings in them. Now,
these soil mining bees don't just show up in this spring,
you know. Usually they start and then gather over time.
(40:22):
But you mentioned, you know, the botanical garden and zoo.
There's also do.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know they put that in their their printed ad.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I just caught that the other day. That says, you
know that we're celebrating blah blah blah and our blooms.
We're so flowery that we actually call ourselves a senciety
botanical garden and zoo.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Well, it is incredible, it is, and we're and not
let's go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah,
well no, I'm just want to make sure that people understand.
Don't spray these don't even think of doing that. They're
not all grass. Of what you want to do if
they're in your lawn is to work towards thickening the
(41:06):
lawn because they don't like to be in grasses. They
will not be in a healthy lawn. They'll be in
an open area, and so just work towards that. You know,
it's not too late to put down seed. The plants
may not make it through the you know, the worst
time of the year for turf grass July in August, however,
it will start closing. That can it be? And you know,
(41:29):
run I've actually been surprised over the years how often
spring seating has worked, and I think it's because we
have a lot better cult of ours than we used to.
But back to the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and Zoo. You
know for listeners that in the more southern part of
the United States or northern part of the United States,
if you're passing through Cincinnati, that should be a destination.
(41:52):
I've always said that it really if you are at
all interested in gardening the Cincinnati outset correctly, First, the
Sysney Zoo and Botanical Garden should be a stop on
your on your list of places to see. It is
celebrating its one hundred and fiftieth anniversary, which is which
(42:12):
is hard to believe. And there's also a connection between
which I didn't know this historically, there's a connection between
the Cincinnati now will say it the way that you
have invented.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You this botanical.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
And zoo, and I think I still have the picture
of when you unveiled it.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Gardens, yes, yeah, I'm surey.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
But it and the director thing Maynard and others there
they're just so proud of. Of course, our good friend
Steve Folts, director of Horta Culture. So I'll tell you
it is an amazing place. And and another thing too,
is you The labeling there is wonderful If people are
(43:04):
looking for annuals perennials, what are you ornamentals? If you're
just you know, wanting to see things that are growing
and in bloom and get some ideas for your own landscaping.
Because of the labels, it's a great place to go
see sometimes new introductions too, like for example, I think
(43:24):
they're going to have a Begunia that has like butterfly
like flower. Joe, come on now, that was a good ending.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, that was great, Joe, Bog's always a pleasure. Website
b y g L dot OSU dot edu. We will
talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Have a good week, Ryn, bye bye, Hey, take care.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Thanks all our college, Thanks very sponsors. Thanks of course
of Danny Gleaeson, our producer goes. Without Danny Gleeson, none
of the stuff would happen now, Danny, thank you very much.
I really do apprecia what you do. Now, do yourself
a favor. It's arbor Day, post arbor Day weekend. Hey,
what do you say? Get out? Plant a tree, grow
a tree or two or three, get the kids in
the and everybody involved as well. Keep planting those native plants,
(44:13):
native species, keep planting those pollinator plants. Be ee friendly
in your gardening endeavors, get the kids involved, and by
all means, make this the absolute best arbor Day weekend
of your life.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
See you.
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding on this post Arbor Day.
Happy Arbor Day to you. I hope you got out
yesterday or today or tomorrow and you're planning a tree
or two or three or more. A lot of folks,
(00:58):
a lot of stuff, festive things going on for Earth
Day and giving a lot of waste some ceilings. Great.
Like I've said, I'm all for Earth Day, it's great,
but it kind of took away from Arbor Day, you
know what I'm saying. When it was just Arbor Day,
everybody you know, focused on the trees. Now the trees
go for Earth Day. They're kind of rooted together because
(01:19):
they're so close to each other as far as the date.
But it just kind of Arbor Date is. It's the
Rodney dangerfield. It takes the back seat, no respect. But
you know, you know what we're talking about. So you
need to get out your locally owned independent garden centers,
nurseries and get that right tree for the right location,
your yard, the neighbor's yard, the church, the park systems.
(01:41):
There are so many places downtown cities, the park. They
all want trees, all right, So do your part. Get
out and plant a tree or two or three. Do
it this weekend in honor of Arbor Day and Earth Day.
But get out and plant and get the kids involved,
grandkids involved, get the family involved. So some day you
can go back and say, remember we went and planted
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those trees in the park or downtown, in the city,
or in the neighbor's yard they didn't even know about. Now,
don't do that, ask them first, or in your own
yard if they've got if you got room for that
as well, you know, and again somebody was it was
somebody talking about the curb appeal, how important that is
to your home, and you know, trees came up in
the conversation. And I'm telling you, if you look at
(02:24):
a house, if you go to look at a house,
and you know, you pull up and of course you
look at all the different things that make curb appeal work. Obviously,
if Gary Sullivan was on the show with me right now,
you'd be talking about having that front door looking spiffy
and the garage door, which are the two big things
that you see on the house itself looking good, and
the sidewalk and the driveway asphalt looking good in the concrete,
(02:46):
an'll tak care. But then, of course what compliments all
of that is all of the landscaping, the landscape beds,
and the trees and the lawn, and of course if
none of that looks good, it it just doesn't work right.
So they all come together, and you know, you look
at that if you're looking to maybe you are going
to sell your house later on, or you just naturally
want good curb appeal because you want your place to
look good because it says it says you. You know,
(03:09):
when you look at your house, it says who you are,
So good curb appeal says you're a good person, and
you know that's you're doing the right things. But the
properly planted the right tree, right locations, properly located trees
in that front yard can really make a major difference
in that curb appeal. If you don't have any trees,
(03:31):
I would consider doing that. And again maybe one, two three.
It depends on size of your your yard obviously, but
can be a very important factor in creating a good
curb appeal. And if you're planting trees and now's a
good time to do it. Falls a good time to
do it as well. Do me a favor. Once you
pick the right trees for the right location, got them
(03:53):
away from the house, got plenty room for them to grow,
et cetera, et cetera, properly a place. Don't forget the course.
When you're planting. You got to call eight one one,
call before you dig. Got to get get the utilities
marked before you dig those holes. Very it's a law
no matter where you live. So make sure you do
that eight one one, have everything marked first. But when
(04:13):
you're planting those trees out in the yard, do me
a favor. I don't care how big the tree is.
Make the circle that's around that tree. And you're gonna
put a circle around that tree and put mulch down, right,
I want you to make that circle at least at
least six feet in diameter minimum. I don't care if
that tree is four feet, five feet, eight feet, twelve feet,
(04:36):
whatever it may be. And if it's a huge tree,
make make it even bigger. If you if you get
involved with the arbor or the vermire digger that comes
in with a three or four or five inch tree,
make it even bigger. All right, make it eight ten
foot diameter. Do it now, Do it right away. Don't
wait till the tree gets larger. Do it now, and
you will be amazed. How much better those trees one
(05:00):
look from the street having a larger circle of mulch
underneath that tree, and how much better they will perform
having that larger circle of mulch underneath those trees than
having grass growing there. It's research has proven it. So
promise yourself six foot diameter, no less, and you'll see,
(05:24):
you know, four feet that's fine, you know, no go
to six feet. Just take it out six feet. Let's
go for it to make it look good. It does work,
and it does help the tree much more appealing from
the curb. Obviously, lawn very important. I I you know,
as far as you know, keeping a nice and thick
You keep the lawn nice and thick through cultural practices,
mowing on a higher level, feeding when need to be fed,
(05:46):
watering when need to be watered, and by increasing the
bed sizes around the foundation around the trees, and that
you actually reduce the amount of law you have there.
But you still have a nice lawn, that nice green.
To connect it all together, I heard talking about you know,
in today's market. Now we've got the flowering lawns, you
might want to consider flowering lawn. Well, I'm all for
(06:08):
the flowering launch for the pollinators, but it may be
something that you first of all check with your HOA
and your community, your township. Not all of them are
acceptable of that, and if not, you can do it
in your backyard. And I think that would be great.
But not everybody wants a flowering lawn, so think about
that as well. If you're trying to sell the house,
you might want to just stick with the normal turf,
(06:31):
but again, nice green, keep it the you know, take
care of that lawn and mow it higher if you want,
at a higher level. Guarantee you. That's one cultural practice
is really going to help your turf that starts together
tie together. Now you've got the trees that are nice
and mult you've got the landscape beds. Make them deeper.
If your landscape beds right now in front of your
house are four feet deep, make them five to six
(06:52):
feet deep. Take them out further, get a nice edge
on there. Maulch it. You know what kind of mault
you use is up to you. I heard it mentioned
something about you know, used gravel or rock mulch, and
then once you put it down, it's always there. If
you're thinking about using rock malt stone for malt around
your house, think about it about ten times before you
do it. I like the looks of stone mulch. I
(07:17):
like it in some areas. I don't like it in
some homes. I mean, sometimes it doesn't look very good.
Sometimes it does. It's more expensive than using bark mulch.
Once it's down, it's there. It doesn't go away, it
stays there. But there are pros and cons to using
gravel and stone as a malt versus organic bark mulch
or compost. Yeah, it does help to keep the weeds down,
(07:40):
does a pretty good job, but over time, through wind
and erosion, silt starts to blow into that and weed
seeds can start to come up through the stones as well.
You may not think about this ahead of time, but
when you put stone down, you should actually put a
landscape fabric down first. Then the stone's on top. Now
you deal with landscape fabric, which I do not like doing.
(08:03):
And the only time I recommend it is in a
pathway in a vegetable garden or understone, but you want
to do that underneath it and stone on top. If
you're cleaning out debris, it can be a little bit
tough sometimes, So there's pros and cons to both. I
would personally, and not everybody likes the stone maults. Again,
if you're looking to sell your home, that might not
(08:25):
be the way to go because I look at that
and I'd say, man, if I don't like that, I've
got to haul all that stuff out there. Because if
for somewhere down the road you don't like that stone mault,
guess what, somebody's got to haul it out. And it
was really tough hauling it in. It's even tougher getting
it out of there. So think that one through. But again,
nicely mult whichever one you would decide to use, but
make the beds bigger and it's more impressive that way,
(08:49):
nice edge on those beds, and then of course maintaining
your plants as well, just doing those minimal things. Color
by the front door. Don't put it. You don't have
to put it anywhere else if you don't want to,
but put color by the interest, whether it's in containers
or in the ground. Oh and by the way, if
you use a stone mulch. You do limit yourself as
far as what you're going to grow in there. You
can't grow things that would spread out. You can only
(09:10):
grow in their plants that are individuals because they can't
spread out because of the gravel. Can be limiting on
your landscaping as well. But color by the front door
and containers or whatever it may be. And you put
all that together and now you're really starting to bring
some nice curb appeal, no doubt about it. So you know, again,
take a look at that. If you're thinking about selling
(09:30):
the home later on this year, or just need to
kind of spruce up that front, take a look at
all those different things. Get with your local owned independent
garden centers, local designers. They can help you out, come
up with some sketches, give you some good ideas and
it doesn't take a whole lot to help increase the
curb appeal of your home. But again, plant those trees.
Make sure you promise me a minimum of a six
(09:53):
foot circle of mulch around those trees. All right of mault,
don't use the plastic things you lay down or whatever,
maulch on top, and the trees will do better. It
looks better, great curve appeal and right tree, the right spot.
And it's harbor day weekends, so get out and plant
a tree or two or three. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 1 (13:38):
Talking Yard at eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five to Cincinnati, we go rag in morning.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Yes, Hi, Ron, I live up north of you in
the west Chester area.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
And last summer's early spring, I planted some flowering shrubs.
I planted something called the sonic bloomy bloom with galia,
which is gorgeous this time of year. It's just budding
out and really nice red flowers. I planted some endless
(14:11):
summer hydranges and also some something called groovy grape. Butterfly
bush in the department got carried away with that. Here's
the thing. The butterfly bushes look dead. I mean there's
maybe one or two little leaves coming out from the bottom.
We had a really hard winter here in our area.
(14:33):
I know you're national north of Cincinnati. A lot of
snow and very cold temperatures. Do you think that that
is hopeless or it was just a few odd leaves
coming out of the bottom.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
No, I'll tell you what you know. I look at
butterfly bush as a woody perennial, and they say woody
perennial because most of the time, if you have any
kind of a winter at all, and if you remember,
think back to the fall, as warm as we were,
and I'm I'm actually I'm your neighbor. I live in
the Mason area, So there you go.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
But the.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
If you think back to the fall, they stayed very warm,
very late. Those things had leaves right to the very end.
So they don't shut down until we get, you know,
really into some cold weather and they're still kind of active.
So if the weather drops and it gets really cold,
and all of a sudden, this plant that was somewhat
active exposed to these colder temperatures and even though we
had the snow cover, which was great that helps it out,
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they have a tendency to die back, and so they
they will do that. But the good thing about budlayo
or butterfly bush is the fact that they usually come
back from the root system, so you cut them back hard,
cut them pretty much within an inch or so of
the ground, and then they come right back up. And
they need really warm soil and air temperatures because they
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were usually one of the last ones to leaf out.
That crate Myrtle hibiscus usually the last plan ask to
leaf out in your in your landscape because they need
warmer tempts. And then they typically come right back up
from the root system. So you know, I would be
taking everything off of the top, uh, and just wait
and see what's going to happen. Give it about two
(16:13):
or three more weeks. As the temperatures warm, you should
see that things start to pop. If you don't, sometimes
they don't. Sometimes they have enough root damage that you
only get a couple of leaves that come up and
that's about it. So but you'll know for sure in
about two weeks or so of warm weather. It should
tell you by then.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Okay, So so prune the heck out of it right
down yep the ground, you got it?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
See yep?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
All right, very good, thank you, all right, good talk
your show. It's great, and I have a good day.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Hey, you too appreciate the call. Good question. And as
a matter of fact, that one of the notes I
had here is you know, giving things time, bud Ley,
Like I said earlier, hibiscus, crape myrtles, things like that.
You know, they're one of the last ones to come
out into leaf for you. Uh, and they want that
really warm temperature. You've got to give them plenty of time.
Create myrtles in our area, and they're listed Zone six.
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A couple of them of Zone five took a pretty
good hit this past winter, and we're cutting them back
close to the ground. But we are starting to see
a little bit of sprouting closer to the ground. But again,
they need really warm temperatures high biscuits the same way
cut that thing back to the ground takes a long time.
All of a sudden they start to pop. Milkweed usually
one of the last ones to start to pop up
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for you well as well, if you planted something, you
haven't seen anything yet, and I hope that you did
plant some milkweed. It's almost like the trees. Everybody needs
to plant some milk weed for those butterflies. But not
only for the monarch butterflies. The other butterflies love them
the two, but most pollinators all go to hype to
milkweed for the pollen so in the nectar, so keep
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that in mind as well. Paul and Kentucky, good morning, Ron.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yes, sir, I have I've been using ground tree bark
for the last few years for molts and all. Yes,
you set, but I've got a terrible amount of the
purple dead metal and the other little white spring type
thing that comes up. Yes, and anything to suggests to
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get rid of it and to not be able to
knock it out of there.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The thing to remember, and you're probably talking about chickweed,
real small leaf, kind of flat, yeah, all right.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
The thing about both of those is that they're called
winter annuals, so they're both an annual. They grow flower
seed and die. So if you never did anything to
them in about i don't know, four weeks from now,
they'll start to turn yellow mush out and then they're
gone because they've done their thing. They start to grow
in September in October, so you put a pre immersion
herbicide in those areas in September that stops those those
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winter annual seeds from growing. So you really start to
cut back the populations. Now sometimes you'll still get a
few to pop up here and there. They kind of
hang in there over the winter. As soon as we
get a couple of warm days, they just explode. They grow,
they see, they flower, they see. So when you do
see them pop up, hand pulling thom is pretty easy
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because they're very shallow rooted, not much to them. Hand
pull them, or you can spot treat with a with
a vegetation killer as well if it's in an open area.
But the goal is to not let them flower and
set seed so we can stop the seed production, we
stop seeing more of them coming up. So pre emerged
herbicides in September, hand pulling, spot treating in the springtime
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as needed. You put the two of those together, and
the next thing you know, you don't see as many.
They always pop up. I've probably seen more of all
those winter annuals this spring that I think I ever have.
So you're always gonna have a few to pop up
here and there, but just don't let them flower and
go to seed. And Paul, I hate to say this,
but you know the thing of it is that and
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Hindbit and a lot of them are very edible. That
and the chick we very edible. So that you know.
The old saying is too. If you can't beat them,
you can always eat them.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
I sprayed them a couple of weeks ago and they're
dried up right now. Yeah, clean out the rest of them.
Is truckling good.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
To use on that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, it's a pre emergent.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Yeah, so yes, that will so. But let you say September.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
To put it down exactly, get it in September, get
it watered in, stop them from growing. Can they germany
ain and start to grow in the fall. So you
stop them from growing in the fall. Uh, and you
really cut back the populations at that point. Don't let
them flower the seed the spring. Now you really start
to work on getting those seed populations down. And again
they're gonna pop up here and there every now and then,
but not like you like they did before that. All right,
(20:45):
quick break, we come back. You know who's coming up,
Buggy Joe Boggs. Here in the garden you're run Willson.
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it is time for time for what it is, time
for the Buggy Joe bog your purpose of Joe bugs.
It's just a professor horta culture educator for the Ohio
State University Extension. Let's see what else I want to
(23:30):
say about? Do they nothing? Because I want to talk
to him more. His website is byg L dot OSU
dot EU. Ladies and gentlemen, Mister common sens call himself
Buggy Joe Bob.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I don't want to take up a lot of time.
I want to talk. Let's talk, Let's talk.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
And you know, I yeah, all right, I realize it though.
I'm actually a summer annual. You know, when you describe
those life cycles, I was thinking, oh, wait a second, No,
I'm not on in the winter.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know that's right, you know, so you would be
like a summer annual.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
A summer annual on the radio shows.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, let me let me ask you this I'm okay,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you. This is a
serious question I have gotten over the last probably two weeks,
including my own wife emailing me saying that she wants
this particular bogonia that's showing up on on the like
Facebook or Pinterest or whatever called like there's one of
(24:32):
them called Moonlight Butterfly Bogonia, and they actually write the
descriptions about it and everything. Well, they aren't available. That's
all AI generated. Oh no, yeah, And I mean they
have a whole series of these these begonias that look
like butterflies. I mean they literally look like and that's
what it is.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And then they've got something called Cat's Eyes Dazzle Panda
face flowers, and I.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Is generating, it's generating everything, you know, the name and
the picture and all that.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, because it's not available. And they have like a
you know, like the place were you can order the
seeds and stuff and stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Well that is is that crazy? I didn't think. I
did not think AI was going to infiltratee hortic culture
that quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Well, somebody somebody's doing it. I mean, obviously somebody's doing it.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I had.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
My wife said she said, I want one of these?
Where do I get these? And I said, you know, Carol,
that's an AI generated plant. It doesn't exist. And then
all of a sudden, because it's out there, I'm getting
all kinds of somebody's like, do you grow these? Are
these available? It's like, uh no, no.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Sorry, now that is really no, I I this is
it's now I'm looking. I just I did a little
Oh my gosh, there's are a whole series of these,
yeah plants. Yeah, and now I see what you're talking about.
You know, that's interesting now that I look at the uh,
I look at the Bogonia that looks like well, the butterfly.
(26:10):
I don't know how to describe it. I've actually never
realized how much when you look at Bogonia leaves there
is a bit of a resemblance to butterflies. You know.
I kind of hadn't noticed that before.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, yeah, but they do. Well, you're right, they do.
But this was, you know, this was one of these
one of these websites actually talks about the Bogonian and
the different types and how these are rex pogonias and
blah blah blah and it's like you know that they
have butterfly like leaves. Well they do, and I agree
with that, I understand. But then you look at these things,
(26:45):
They're like that doesn't exist. That is really interesting photoshop thing,
you know.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well I'm looking at some hibiscus flowers
that I mean, it really does look like science. I mean,
let's say that rot. It's there are some of these
colors that you just that is too stark. Although you
and I both know that a long I'll tell you
a passion flower, for example, passion flower, it looks like
(27:15):
something that doesn't It looks like it's a I generated
you ever knows that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, it looks like something at a dinosaur were sticking
his head around the corner. I think when you look
at that, it looks prehistoric to me.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
It really does. It doesn't. It's just the first time
I ever saw passion flower flower, passion fruit flower, I
I just it was it was mind boggling because I'd
never seen such an intricate structure like that. So, you know,
as I'm looking at some of these, now you've got
me onto this. I'm going to probably be at this
(27:49):
all morning. You know, just all these ai generated images
and they are pretty fascinating. But it is a shame
that this is many people though in wild goose chases,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeh? Look the other one is called Cat's Eye flower,
so that one up. Check it are the site, by
the way, is uh registered in China.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well here we go. Yes, I see what you're talking about.
I really think that's pretty interesting. Yeah, well it's uh.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, you know the way of the world today.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
It's the way of the world and it can give
plant breeders goal a goal to achieve, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Now start working working on that plant.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
You know, you and I've been around long enough and
I I can't think of the examples, but different plants,
different flowers where there were no colors of a certain
you know, there's like no such thing as a a
purple you know, fill in the blank. You know what
I'm saying that you and I have been around long
enough to have heard these different things and experienced them
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until finally, you know, the plant beaters come along and
produce something that that was unheard of. And I've always
found that fascinating that uh and today, you know, there
still are some colors that just simply aren't available. I mean,
they're just simply not part of nature. But but you
know what I'm talking about. There were different colors different
(29:25):
you know, in the in the roses, for example, the
hybrid black.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, not dark maroon.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Well, no, exactly black. That's that's a very you don't want.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You don't want it. They've always worked on it, and
a they've gotten pretty good. Now. Pon Setti is in
a white.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was always a cream color or a yellow tint
to it, or you know that that type was never
a true clear white.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Yeah, yeah, I find that just so you think about.
That's one area that that I just find fascinating with
how plant breeders will just keep working, you know, working
towards that kind of goal. But now, of course we've
set the we've just set the bar much higher, haven't we.
You need to beg that you know has has leaves?
(30:20):
Those actually look like leaves rather than flowers, aren't they?
It looks like butterflies, that's yeah, of course. Wait a second,
isn't there a butterfly begunia? Now I think about it?
Too late?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Right, yeah, too late?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
So what were we going to talk about today? Aside?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I don't know I didn't. I didn't mean, I didn't
mean to throw you off there, but I mean, I
just look at that, Oh my gosh, because people are
people are I didn't know, people are asking for it,
and it's it's a you know, you got to say no,
I'm sorry that I hate to let you down.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
But.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
No, you didn't throw me off at all. That was
a really nice That was a nice trip down you.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Know weird world today today, you know, we got it
before we take a break. Today is a post Arbor Day.
Joe and I consider Arbor Day as the Rodney danger
Field of awareness days.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Isn't that true. I've long felt that way, and Arbor
Day has been around since before longer than the birthday. Yeah,
longer Earth Day, longer than Doughnut Day. Unfortunately, I think
although you know, we'll argue the importance of one another
or the other later.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
But any rate, Today's I think today's National Pretzel Day.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Oh, I know, that's interesting. That's you know, there is
a day for everything. Now there needs a day.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
For there is I mean, every day has got something.
I don't know, but I do. Arbor Day lost. You know,
it was a it was a major thing in one
time having an Earth Day came along and they're still
kind of rooted together because they're so close. But everything
kind of focuses towards toward Earth Day rather than Arbor Day.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
So well, you know, I get it too. I kind
of see where you know, Earth Day are talking about everything.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Exactly, and I said, I'm all for it one hundred percent.
You know, if it brings awareness, super I get it.
But it took away from Arbor Day and they probably
give away they give away more trees on Earth Day,
I think today, because they just tie them both together.
And I get it.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Yeah, But you know, you and I grew up Arbor
Day was it was very special. I mean in schools
the whole time you and I growing up, it was
it was a special day. And and and how many
trees are out there are from kids coming home, I
mean now big trees right right's coming home you know
with the arbor their Arbor Day tree. You know, a
(32:56):
little tiny, suffering Norway spruce for example, you know, in
the Norway spruce just you know, little sprigs and amazingly
you know you're planting, and you know after and of
course by the time they got home, right, That's what
(33:17):
I keep focusing it. I remember mine by the time
they get home.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
And be you know.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But it was amazing though, how many did well? I
mean there was a Norway spruce not far from where
I lived that, you know, the one of my classmates planted,
and I'm I'm pretty sure I can go back with
Google Earth and find a big tree, I mean bigger
than it should be in that spot, you know what
I'm saying that, Yeah, pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
By the way, I think you were a sophomore in
high school when Earth Day started.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, that willn't wait a second. Is it that recent?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah? I think it was nineteen seventy, the early seventies.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
You know, I actually thought earth they started later than that. Seriously,
I I there was a big deal this year about it,
the history, which I just you know, it escaped me
for some reason. And of course, you know, there's a
little bit of debate on who named it right. I mean,
there's some debates about as with everything, you know, just
a little bit. But I did not realize that you're
(34:24):
exactly right that it started, you know, when when you
and I were, you know, in our teens.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Right, our prime high school.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Days, our prime high school day.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
With that we got to take a break and find
out how much trouble Joe got into. No know, if
you've got something serious you're going to talk about. Let's
clean a slate and we'll talk about it after the
break with Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.
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Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two with a buggy. Joe Boggs you port
mister Joe Bogs OSU extension. Their website happens to be
by g L dot O s U dot E d
U Joe Buggs.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Speaking of you, I don't know where this is heading.
I don't even know why I said that. I was
thinking I was trying to get something working towards soil
mining bees.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Soil mining bees. We saw some really good we saw
some really good soil mining bees down at the Botanical
Garden and zoom.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
You did.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
On the corner, interesting.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Corner of one of the walkways there there's nothing planted there,
and ye, Justina Block pointed at I thought, well Steve's
I think saw him too. It and little holes and
they were just starting to do their thing.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah. Well, and I'm starting to get the messages and
af phone calls because you know, people do they are bees. Thankfully, though,
people are starting to connect the dots in this case
where you know, they're connecting it to them being very
important pollinators, which is true. But we still do occasionally get,
(38:15):
you know, the question, well, lease, you know, how do
I get rid of them? You know, they're worried about
getting stung, that type of thing, and so they are
not at all aggressive, are they? They're the most interesting bees.
I've melt down and we've talked about this taking pictures
right in the middle of what we call a colony.
(38:36):
But that's not exactly right. When you think of a colony, really,
that should apply to something like yellow jackets, you know, horns,
you know, social insects. In this case, they're individual females
that are creating the burrows into the soil and then
they attract males and the males mate with them. But
(38:57):
they're individual burrows. Ye, they're all There are a lot
of them together, so you think, well, wait a minute,
you know, is it appropriate to call them a colony
or do you call them a collection? And I like
the word colony because it does it's sort of like
an apartment complex, right, or it's sort of like a
little town. But at the end of the day, these
(39:18):
are very important early season pollinators and I always think
of them in an our part of the country as
showing up at about the same time that we have
certain you know, of the spring ephemerals blooming. It's like
spring one of my favorite names for a flower spring beauties.
(39:40):
And it's as a matter of fact, there are some
sail money bees. They're very tuned into that particular plant,
in that particular flower. But as far as what would
we do about them, this kind of also connects back
to something. You know, how many times have we talked
about about lawns, about turf crafts, about the suffering from
(40:02):
last summer where a large part of the US had,
including Ohio, you know, had a very serious draft. And
so we do have lawns that have openings in them. Now,
these soil mining bees don't just show up in this spring,
you know. Usually they start and then gather over time.
(40:22):
But you mentioned, you know, the botanical garden and zoo.
There's also do.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know they put that in their their printed ad.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I just caught that the other day. That says, you
know that we're celebrating blah blah blah and our blooms.
We're so flowery that we actually call ourselves a senciety
botanical garden and zoo.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Well, it is incredible, it is, and we're and not
let's go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah,
well no, I'm just want to make sure that people understand.
Don't spray these don't even think of doing that. They're
not all grass. Of what you want to do if
they're in your lawn is to work towards thickening the
(41:06):
lawn because they don't like to be in grasses. They
will not be in a healthy lawn. They'll be in
an open area, and so just work towards that. You know,
it's not too late to put down seed. The plants
may not make it through the you know, the worst
time of the year for turf grass July in August, however,
it will start closing. That can it be? And you know,
(41:29):
run I've actually been surprised over the years how often
spring seating has worked, and I think it's because we
have a lot better cult of ours than we used to.
But back to the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and Zoo. You
know for listeners that in the more southern part of
the United States or northern part of the United States,
if you're passing through Cincinnati, that should be a destination.
(41:52):
I've always said that it really if you are at
all interested in gardening the Cincinnati outset correctly, First, the
Sysney Zoo and Botanical Garden should be a stop on
your on your list of places to see. It is
celebrating its one hundred and fiftieth anniversary, which is which
(42:12):
is hard to believe. And there's also a connection between
which I didn't know this historically, there's a connection between
the Cincinnati now will say it the way that you
have invented.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You this botanical.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
And zoo, and I think I still have the picture
of when you unveiled it.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Gardens, yes, yeah, I'm surey.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
But it and the director thing Maynard and others there
they're just so proud of. Of course, our good friend
Steve Folts, director of Horta Culture. So I'll tell you
it is an amazing place. And and another thing too,
is you The labeling there is wonderful If people are
(43:04):
looking for annuals perennials, what are you ornamentals? If you're
just you know, wanting to see things that are growing
and in bloom and get some ideas for your own landscaping.
Because of the labels, it's a great place to go
see sometimes new introductions too, like for example, I think
(43:24):
they're going to have a Begunia that has like butterfly
like flower. Joe, come on now, that was a good ending.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, that was great, Joe, Bog's always a pleasure. Website
b y g L dot OSU dot edu. We will
talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Have a good week, Ryn, bye bye, Hey, take care.
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of the stuff would happen now, Danny, thank you very much.
I really do apprecia what you do. Now, do yourself
a favor. It's arbor Day, post arbor Day weekend. Hey,
what do you say? Get out? Plant a tree, grow
a tree or two or three, get the kids in
the and everybody involved as well. Keep planting those native plants,
(44:13):
native species, keep planting those pollinator plants. Be ee friendly
in your gardening endeavors, get the kids involved, and by
all means, make this the absolute best arbor Day weekend
of your life.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
See you.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
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