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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our total free number here in the garden, same as
it is every weekend. It's eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
a personal yard boy, talking about yarding on this post weekend,
post Mother's Day weekend. Uh yeah, did you so? Did
you get out of your garden center last weekend? Man?
(00:56):
I think a lot of people did. Garden centers had
a absolute great weekend last weekend, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Finally he had some great weather and the month of May,
you know, obviously the April is will vary at garden
centers depending on the weather. And you know, it's interesting.
We're in this business. I've been in this business all
my life, and I'm in a business that it's fun
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and really enjoyed blah blah blah. But I'm one of
the major factors in your success is something you have
absolutely no control over, and that's the weather. So you
you know, you work around it. And garden centers today
have spent the extra money to have covered areas, to
have greenhouses to shop through, you know, things like that,
so they've made it a lot easier for you to shop.
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And then of course planting is a different story. But
you know, this year, the weather is just kind of
every it's just rain, and then it was nice for
a couple of days of rain and through the weekend
and it really backed everything off. So we had the
ideal situation where all of a sudden we had three
days in a row with extremely nice temperatures, clear skies,
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sunny days. And when did those happen? Friday, Saturday and
Sunday of Mother's Day weekend, and so yeah, it was
packed and a lot of garden centers. Again, thank you
for your patience and hanging in there. But my point being,
of course, this week after Mother's Day is a very
strong week and today and tomorrow as far as the
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post weekend of Mother's Day weekend is a very strong
one as well. For a lot of folks that didn't
go out or went out. Now you're back for round
two to get you know what you didn't get the
first weekend. So they're gonna be busy again. Looks like
good weather here and that's a great thing. But what's
interesting about May this year is that Mother's Day is
later in the month and Memorial Day, which a lot
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of folks kind of set Memorial Day as a kind
of a guideline to get things planted by Memorial Day weekend.
By the way, Joe Streker's off today, he's taking a
three day weekend. So that's why we had no cup
of Joe. But they wait, you know, try to get
everything done by Memorial weekend. Well that's next weekend, I
believe it or not. So it's a shorter period of time.
(03:05):
So now you cram all this stuff in to a
shorter period of time, trying to work in between the weather,
and it gets pretty crazy. But my point being is
this is that local garden centers, your independent garden centers,
are going to do their best to have a selection
of annuals vegetables, tomatoes, peppers, herbs, things like that through
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the week, through Memorial weekend and into June. And then
once we get into the middle of June, you'll really
start to see it thin back. Now you'll thin back,
and but they try that again, keep some things on hand.
May not be exactly what you're looking for in the
vegetables and herb line, but they do try to keep
things going on. So they're growing these succession plantings, especially
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of tomatoes and peppers that you know, every two weeks
or so, there's another crop available. So if we're growing
let's say big Boy to me ptoes, then you're gonna
have six flats of depending on the size of the store,
six flats available this week, and then you're going to
have ten days later, two weeks later, six more flats available,
six more flats available to carry it through about a
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four to six eight week period. So that's the goal
all right now. Sometimes if it gets really crazy and
really busy, you run out. But there's a lot of
other growers out there that supply garden centers, and if
you work, they work, grow hard, you can find a
supply of something to keep it going and planting time.
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Remember you hear me say every year on this show
about I Will, I use the fourth of July as
my final cutoff for planting vegetables for the summer season.
If I happen to be out on you know that
weekend or that during that week of the fourth of July,
and I find a particular potato or tomato or a
pepper or something like that that I've never grown before, uh,
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and I would like to try it, and it's still
available at that local garden center. I will still plant
that late into the year, but that's about as late
as I go. And then about a month later we
start to look at already for our fall crops, as
far as those that like the cooler season weather. So
you've got plenty of time for planting. If you get
out to the garden centers and you buy all your
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stuff and then you go home and it rains for
two days, don't worry. Leave them sit outside. They'll take
they'll take the rain and all, and then get them
planted as soon as you can. I mean, that's just
the way that goes. But again, you know you don't
have to rush out this week. I mean, dude, get
out to your local garden centers. We're counting on you.
But you're thinking that you're gonna run out. Some things
may run out, but they're always going to have a
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selection of tomatoes for you. It may not be the
exact one you're looking for, but we'll have things like
that for you right on through Memorial weekend, through the
end of May and well into June. Okay, So keep
that in mind as we go along. Now, when it
comes to trees and shrubs, roses, ornamental grasses, perennials as well.
Perennials of course that we carry. The garden centers carry
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those all season long. Those are going to be there
from the beginning of the spring season all the way
through the fall. Growing perennials and containers gives us the
opportunity to have perennials all the time. As a matter
of fact, June is perennial gardening month, right, Well, that's
when perennials really start to come into their own. At
that point June, you get a lot of things in
flour starting to look pretty good. You can tell what
they look like the whole nine yards, so you know,
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so we'll have and again, timing of the way they're
growing is that, you know it will have them really
starting to look good in the garden centers that time
of the year. So again, don't panic if you haven't
been out there yet. Don't panic if you haven't gotten
everything yet, because, like I say, we in the garden
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center industry will try to continue to have plants available
for you at least through the end of May and
well into the month of June. I'm talking vegetables and
herbs and things like that. And there is a point
where the demand for that really starts to drop off
and there's really no need to have it. And some
garden centers, I know, with us, we will do like
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one gallon and two gallon tomatoes and peppers late in
the season, and you know, maybe you only have three
dozen on hand, but you've got some available in case
somebody lost their all their tomatoes and peppers came back
vacation and were all done or it wasn't able to plant.
But now they are, so you know you've got some
of these larger ones available to go. And by the way,
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talking about planting times, you know I talk about me
planting on the up until the fourth of July. I'm
in no hurry right now to get things planted. The
only thing I would be doing right now, which I
did was going through our selection and picking out some
of the couple of tomatoes that I always want to
make sure that I get planted in the containers for
either my mom or myself. So I've got those specific ones.
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But I'll continue to use plant right on through all
of this. Uh. And the kicker is if you're planting
right now and I come back and plant mine in
about three weeks from now, we're getting nice and warm.
At that point, those things just explode at that stage
A lot of times are really not too far behind yours.
So you got my point being is you got plenty
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of time. And again selection will dwindle as we go
through the rest of the month of May and into June.
But our goal, speaking in general for the local independent
garden centers is to continue to have product available for
you at least through May and in the early June
as best we can. And there's other growers that we
can pull from and things like that, So that's the goal.
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That's what we try to do. Ask when you're there,
you know, just don't go in and you look and
there's a sign there and it's all empty on the table,
Ask if they're going to get more or they're trying
to get more or whatever, and then you can take
it from there. But I again, great for everybody getting
out this past weekend. The garden centers were crazy, a
great boost because its kind of been kind of mediocre
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going through the spring season. Now this is really really
really dune and help them out a lot and now
rocking and rolling as we as we work our way
through this the rest of the spring season. So thank
you for getting out to those locally owned independent garden
centers and doing what you need to do and continue
to shop and continue to fill in as they will
continue to have plants available for you as long as
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you can through May and into June as well. All right,
we're gonna take a quick break, all right, we come back,
have lots of tips to share with you today. We're
taking your calls. We have a couple guests in our
next hour, but we're taking your calls right now at
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Speaker 1 (12:51):
Talking Yarding at eight hundred at eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your
firstal yard boy on this post Mother's Day weekend. Hope
you got out to the garden centers last week and
got started if you haven't already buying those trees and
shrubs and flowers and perennials and vegetables and all those,
because man, they are stuck to the gills with all
(13:13):
kinds of great things right now. You can't find a
better selection in the garden centers than the kind of
a three week period right in the middle of May.
It's it's always phenomenal, all right, to the gardening phone lines.
We shall go. And it's that time of the year.
It is May, and you know what May is. May
has all kinds of things going on. But May is
also Lime Disease Awareness Month, and we can always count
on our good friend Evelyn calling during the month of May.
(13:35):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yes, unfortunately, there is lime Disease Awareness Month and this
lyme that's lime. Connecticut was where it was identified, so
that's how it got its name. But it could be
a horrible debilitating disease neurologically and then your joints in
(14:03):
your heart obviously brain because that's where the neurological system is,
and your eyes. So it's important to learn, uh, to
protect yourself and your family. And these tiny, tiny, tiny,
as you say, little ticks are often hiding in places
(14:29):
that we don't see. But it's important to learn. And
by the way, there's I found out there's a professor
at Ohio State University. Her name is Professor Sarah Short.
She's in entomology and she is specializing in the BLME
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disease and the tick.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You know, the tick research.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, and so yes, her name is Professor Sarah shortened.
She's very very nice to talk to. You know. I
was thinking this morning to remind people that just any
bug spray, you know, won't do it has to say
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uh ticks and lime disease and these tiny ticks. They
are often on your dog and when he comes in
or when the cat comes in, they the takes will
drop off of them because they can't find the skin
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for the fur. And then they'll find you. They're looking
to suck a little of your blood and exchange their
fluids for yours. And the sooner that you're aware that
you might have had a take, you have to be
very aware that you might be sick from the tick.
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Professor Sarah Short said, there is a certain amount of
pushback by doctors, you know, saying oh, no, it's not
because it's such a copycat illness. So I know, you
protect yourself very well, and so and fishermen and hunters
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and people who love nature and who do a lot
of camping and hiking. They just have to know how
to check themselves all the time, and if they do
find a tick, they have to learn how to remove it,
so you're not squashing their gut contents back into yourself.
(16:54):
So I appreciate so much you're making us all aware
to so any any ideas that you might.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Want to add.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You always had a website that you liked a lot.
Do you still use that website?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I do. It's it's out of the University of Rhode Island,
and it's called tick Encounter all one word tick Encounter,
and also the site insect Shield, which is a commercial
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clothing that is treated with the repellent Permetron and they
have many resources, but there's a great deal online through
the CDC. And the one thing that I've still noticed
(17:52):
that when websites show what the tick looks like, they
make it look like you're going to see it. They
make it look big, they exaggerate the size as usually
these ticks, especially the ones that are infected, they're as
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tiny as a spec of dirt. And if you see
a spec of dirt, it doesn't come off it might
very well be the lime tick. I know there are
many other ticks that have terrible diseases, but the lime
disease tick is by far the most common in every state.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So yeah, that deer tick, and that's that is this.
I always say it's like the size of a poppy seed. Yeah,
I mean that's you know, and that's about what it
looks like when it's attached. And I think we always
you and I've always kidd it, but you know, this
is one time, if you've got a partner or a
spouse or whatever, to get to know each other really well.
Because when you're done working in the yard and garden, somebody,
you know, besides yourself inspecting somebody else to look to
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make sure those aren't stuck somewhere. And they always seem
to make it in those areas where you can't see
really well.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Absolutely. And the one thing, like if it's the size
of a poppy seat, it can also be somewhat sometimes
it's not as dark as you would expect. It can
be elusive, so you know, you're looking for definitely a
needle and a haystagger, and it might be around, you know,
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any parts that you can't see exactly good, Yeah, Evelyn.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
We always appreciate your update. As a matter of fact,
I do a little newsletter every week for our employees
and this week it was its line disease Awareness Month
and posted the You know, some folks know to look
for and how to remove those and all. So we
always appreciate you letting us know. We always know it's
May when we can hear from you, and they keep
everybody aware, and it's they we use May as an
awareness month. But of course you need to be aware
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of this all the time. You can get a take
any time during the year, really, so if you're out
in the in the weeds, even work out in the
yard and the grass, sometimes you can pick them up.
Got a pet that goes outside a lot, it's you
can pick them up from them as well. So be
aware this week lyme disease can be a really nasty thing.
Uh So learn more about ticks. Learn more about the repellents.
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Evylan' said a great thing. They're not all insect repellants
repelled ticks, So make sure that's listened for you as well.
And inspect, inspect, inspect every time you come back in
from being out working in whatever area. That may may
be a tick habitat all. Right, great information, Evilan always
appreciate that quick break. We come back, Ken and Dick.
You're coming up next. Here in the Garden with Ron.
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Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy
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we should go to Mary in Ohio. Ken, Good morning,
Good morning, Ron.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
How are you this morning?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Ken? I'm great and yourself.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Oh, I'm doing well. Just driving down to work. I
started getting into some container gardening. Some praise be gardening.
I'm focusing a lot on tomatoes, cucum, pickles, and green
beans and stuff like that. Put some lettuce in our
or things like that. I got a two part question.
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Number one, how deep should be raised beds be minimum
and the containers for the tomatoes and that kind of stuff.
And number two, I've been doing a lot of research
on like YouTube, and so I see a lot of
natural enhancements like yeast and brown sugar, add some salt.
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Do those actually work? Because I'm trying to stay away
from the chemicals but going more natural because I'm doing
a lot of tomato canning and making my own Marinier sauce.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
Sure going on to your person coming up.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
So I'm just wondering what do you think about those
natural remedies enhancements if you.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You know, again, there are those who have been around forever.
Absence salts especially has been around for as a matter
of fact, the Epsen Salts Council actually put together a
website many years ago explaining the use of Ebsen salts
in the garden. And they actually had some that was
brought out and because it used to be not even
labeled for garden use, but brought it out and put
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it a label on it for gardening and actually have
some rates that you can determine as far as water
soluble diluting, et cetera, et cetera. Magnesium sulfate is what
it is. I mean, that's you know, you can get
that in a fertilizer too, but it's magnesium sulfate. Folks
have used Ebsen salts for years because it was Ebsen
salts was always on the shelf for soaking your feet
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or whatever it may be. And so by adding the
Ebsen salts, you added a little bit of a magnesium
and of course the sulfur as well, which plants like both.
So you know that's there. And again they've got a
website you can go and read all about it. The
other ones. There are pros and cons to both. I
would say that if you're going to look into doing those,
I would be cautious. I would experiment. I would do
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as much reading and maybe even try to talk to
folks that have done those. I'm not a big home
remedy person, but again, those are some old those have
been around, someone has been around for a long time,
not a lot of traction, but you do read about
them on the internet, so I would. I would just
learn from other people that have definitely done it before.
(26:22):
I have not with either one of those. I have
with the Ebsence salts uh, but learn more about it
before you try it. I think. The other thing to remember, Ken,
is that on the market today there are a ton
of all natural, all organic fertilizers that are available for you,
soil amendments that you know that are available for you
that are processed and you know, specific for using as
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a soil amendment. So those are available for you out
there at the garden centers. They're not cheap, but they
are available for you if you want to, you know,
continue that direction, which I applaud you for doing that.
I think you'll also find it in the raised beds
and in the containers. You know, you'll also be able
to find organic potting soil, organic garden soil that you
can add if you want to, you know, do that.
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I'm a big one, And I'll go back to the
raised beds. You were asking about it earlier. Are these
beds on top of the ground or on pavement?
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Well, I've got my tomato plants are all in containers
like five gallon pots and half gas or half barrel
fifty five gallons food grade barrels, and then the.
Speaker 10 (27:30):
Other the regular vegetables are touching the ground, going up
about three about to twenty four to thirty inches.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Because if you've got soil underneath the raised beds, you
don't have to go quite as high because you can
also prep that soil below it, and so they can
actually go down into the original soil it's there as well.
And I always I do recommend that if you're building
a raised bed on top of existing soil, is to
go in there and prepare that soil before you can
build the bed, so you've got halfway decent soil before
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you can fill up the planter bed. And then whatever
depth you choose is up to you. Personally, I like
them to be about eighteen and twenty four inches deep.
Reason being is gets it up higher for you. You
don't have to bend over quite as much easier to access,
easier to work with, and that you know, again that
handles about anything that you want to grow, including tomatoes
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and peppers that have a little more of an extensive
roots system. So eighteen to twenty four inches should be
more than enough. When I grow tomatoes and they're indetermined tomatoes,
I don't use anything less than a twenty to twenty
five gallon container per tomato plant, okay, so, and I
will put a basil into each one of those, but
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otherwise it's the tomato plant by itself twenty gallon pot.
And again that gives me about fifteen inches deep, maybe eighteen,
and that seems to work well. Five gallon containers will work.
You may have to water a little bit more often,
but again, putting things in that those containers like core
coi R can help cut down on your watering. Soil
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moist which is a polymer you can put that into
help cut down your watering as well. The leafy vegetables
like spinach and lettuce and things like that, you know,
they really only need six to eight inches deep is
about all they they would require. So you can get
by with a with a more shallow pot, with something
like that. So you know, and I've known a lot
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of folks that have done raised bed containers and do
specific ones just for salad greens, and I only have
them about twelve inches off the ground, so they're very,
very shallow because you don't really don't need that much soil.
So it depends on what you're growing. But eighteen inches
twenty four inches, I think that's where I would be
shooting to have the depth on those raised beds.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Okay, the range skilling thirty inches because I'm fifty six,
my wife is sixty, so we don't want to bend over.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Quite Hey, hey, you know what, Ken, the higher the
I'm now I'm with you. I mean, most people get
scared when you start getting about thirty thirty six inches
off the ground. It's like, wow, that thing's really sticking
up out of the ground. That's great, and I'm behind
you one hundred percent. If you go with a thirty
thirty six inch height, have at and put a nice
rail around the outside so benching that you could sit
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down on it and you know, lean back in. I'm
right there with you. I think it's absolutely outstanding. I
had a great question, Kenn. I'm glad you brought this up.
I had a great question this week. Somebody had built
a raised beds and they were about twenty four to
thirty inches high. The question was, that's going to cost
a lot of money. We did when I realize to
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fill those things up with soil and amendments and all
what can we can we use anything as a filler
at the bottom because I only need about eighteen inches
max for growing vegetables. And if you look back, if
you look back at the old Google culture method where
they used to use logs and branches and sticks and
things and use that as the bottom filler, and then
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on top use your regular top soil potting mix, you know,
organic matter mixed. You're on top. As that stuff breakdown
breaks down over the years, it's gonna settle anyway. You
just keep adding organic matter every year. So you fill
it up with these things that are going to break
down like that, like the wood right from the trees,
or the debris yard debris, and eventually it does break down,
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but it helps to fill it up for you at
the same time using all natural, all organic products you
know in the bottom of those those bins. But you know,
I again, go ahead, good, good, for you. I'll tell
you what. There's a book out there that with Tara
Nola had written this wrote this book several years ago
(31:43):
and it's called Raised Bed Revolution. Probably one of the
best books. There's the two of them out there that
are good, but Tara is one of the This is
I really like this one, Raised Bed Revolution. And if
you ever get a chance to if the library's got it,
or to buy, it's usually fairly inexpensive. Great ideas, and
therefore you on Raise Beds.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Okay, sir, thank you very much, and I will definitely
pick that book up.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
All right. Thanks Ken, good talking we did. You keep
us posting on how everything turns out. Send pictures. I
love seeing pictures of folks vegetable guardens, and I like
the flower gardens too, but you know me, I love
the vegetable guards and especially the ones that people really
get involved and they do the raised beds and then
they fence it off or the deer put the gate
on it. I love looking at things like that. There's
(32:25):
so many great ideas, but Tara Nolan book was probably
put out ten years ago, still one of the best,
I think when it comes to giving you ideas and
how to do raised beds and it's called raised bed
Revolution and it's a good one, no doubt. Before we
take a break, let's go to Dayton. Dick from Dayton,
good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 11 (32:44):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I'm great? How about yourself?
Speaker 11 (32:47):
How do you like the weather?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I'm loving the weather. Now, let me ask you this.
You know you worked at Low's for all these years
and had always experienced the Mother's Day weekend and the
week after. You didn't buy a chance to go over
and help mount this past weekend, did you?
Speaker 11 (33:00):
No?
Speaker 12 (33:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
I had a couple of jogs. I played in the
those for group Monday, and yeah, it was pretty good.
I played Thursday to and Friday. It was great.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:14):
Yeah, one of my friends has been taking me so yeah.
I love this weather, you.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Know, pretty nice.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's great now people are finally able to get out
and work in the yards, get things planted and taken
care of. So this is perfect timing.
Speaker 10 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
I talked to my cousin. She called me. She went
to Low's and stoked up there and she said, boy,
oh boy, the lions were bad. She was getting bolts. Yeah,
and she bought a lot of flowers. But that's pretty
good though. She was always my uncle was a gardener
and my dad. Yeah, it's it's kind of neat. She
lives up by the lake there. She said, it's really
(33:51):
pretty down by the lake up at Longview Park. But
uh yeah, so I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Doing okay good. What's always good to hear from now?
You're a big vegetable eater?
Speaker 11 (34:01):
Oh yeah, I love vegtivals.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, no matter what, you pretty much eat all this
to all the greens and all.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
That, all the greens, all the greens. Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Dick, always a pleasure. Okay, all right, take care, Bye bye.
Dick from Dayton eating his vegetables, Danny Gleeson said childhood days.
Because Danny will eat anything. Childhood days. His grandmother used
to take him out right and have you worked with
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(34:31):
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Good morning, Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Again that total free number eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five to Cleveland we Go Bill, Good morning.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Yes, sir, I've been listening for some time and I'm
trying to find out I live in Worcester, Ohio.
Speaker 12 (36:39):
What temperature zone im in? Is there a place I
can go and find out? You know, climate zone?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah? If and again remember these zones growing zones are
based on the average coldest winter temperatures, so they don't
have anything do with fross or the heat in the summer,
although they're working on a heat the heat zone map too.
But if you just google, and I think the Ohio
Department of Agriculture has it on their map. But if
you just google growing Zones and that'll take you to
(37:08):
a website that has the United States in general, so
you can see all the zones, then you can click
on Ohio. Now in the Worcester area, Ohio is mostly
six A, six B, B is the southern part of Ohio.
A is towards the central to northern part of Ohio.
There's a couple there's a couple of small pockets of
five right in the that's I think that's more of
(37:31):
a northeast of Columbus.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You may be in one of those pockets of fives,
but otherwise there's six, A, six B basically zone six.
But you know what we're seeing now, Bill, is all
of a sudden, we're seeing zone seven creeping in a
little bit along Cleveland, along the lake, and in the
southern part of the Ohio River, which means it's that
What that tells us is that our average coldest temperatures
(37:55):
in the winter are getting a little warmer all the time.
We used to be all zone five and then went
to zone six and now starting to see zone seven
seven creep in as well. But you can pretty much
count that you are a zone six. So when you
go to the local garden center and you're looking at
plants and it says hardy, you'll say zone whatever on
there you're looking for six, five, four, three, two one.
(38:16):
If it says zone seven or higher, those are those
are states like Tennessee and further south.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Gotcha, Well, I I we have the at Agricultural Technical
Institute here and well I can probably call them they'd
be able to answer my question.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, but if you know, if you if you print
it out, I mean just go to the website, I
think how Department of AAG has it. But if you
just printed out the state of Ohio, you'll it has
it all mapped out for you and you can see
exactly where you are and exactly what zone that is.
And again there's a couple of five pockets, but more
than like it. Just if you just consider yourself a
six you got it made?
Speaker 12 (38:56):
Okay, what was that website again?
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The website if you if you the USDA or the
ODA High Department of Agriculture or the United States Department
of Agriculture both have those that map of both the
states and Ohio alone and then you just like click
on it and it'll blow it up for you and
you can find exactly where you are there with Worcester
and see where you are as far as Witch zone,
(39:20):
but it's pretty much all of Ohio is pretty much
six A or six B.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
Okay, Well, thank you much for your time.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You're well, you're welcome, Bill, appreciate you listeners, show appreciate
the call. And again that's an important thing to know
because especially when you're doing trees and shrubs, roses, hardy
plants that come back year after years, knowing what zone
you're in. And again that's based on the average coldest temperatures.
There has nothing to do with frost in the spring
(39:48):
or in the fall, has nothing to do with the
heat in the summer. It's all based on winter heartiness
and that you're growing zone. And it's interesting to look
on the first of all, look at the entire United States,
and these zones basically can go coast to coast. Five
and six go coast to coast. Now you know, you
get zone six out in Reno, Nevada. Their plant palace
(40:10):
is a little bit different, but it's the same zone,
and you can see how they sweep through. And if
you go back and look at the zones twenty years ago,
fifteen years ago, you'll see how we used to be
five and how everything changed at that point a few
years back and went to zone six. But then you
can click on your state and then blow that up
and look at your particular area. But like I say,
(40:31):
for the most part, for Ohio, it's a six B
six A. Most of it's probably six B and six
a's toward the more toward the northern part, a little
bit of seven up there in Cleveland, a little bit
of seven around the Ohio River. But it's interesting to
see that, and then when you see that on your
plant tags, it'll tell you whether or not it's hardy
for your area, being winter hardiness. Robert and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, Ron, sir, longwood guard, just
blooming like crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Oh my god? Are you are you? Are you close enough?
You're close enough to go visit? Right?
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well, guess what I retired at March I work there now.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Uh no, are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Both? We're a longwood household.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Oh my gosh, I'm jealous's heck.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Well, anyway, here's my question for you, Ron. We received
the gift of a fig tree and we've raised it
to this point and it's about twenty inches high still
in a pot. I had one before one mistake and
the thing went, do I when should I start to
move this outside? Should I restart to repot it? And
(41:39):
eventually which size should it go in? The ground for
fear of losing it.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
You know, do you know what variety you have?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
I do not know. It looked like a pretty traditional
fig tree because it was raised from seed from a
friend of ours, God Jersey.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
All right, so we don't know what what it is.
As far as winter hardiness, they probably didn't have one
growing out out side right.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Right, we're up here. I mean it's freezing cold up there.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, but you know, but but you know what, you
guys are kind of the same as us, and you
know that zone six, zone five, and the Chicago hardy
fig is actually hardy for zone six, and it may
die back a little bit over the winter, but it
actually is hardy for outside. But nevertheless, you can grow
any fig outside as long as you would protected over
the winter time properly. Uh, there's a way to wrap
(42:26):
those things up and actually plant them in the ground
and leave them there. Otherwise if you don't, there's a
good chance you're gonna freeze out over the winter. Now.
I used to when I first started growing figs, I
used to grow them in containers and I grew them
in a twenty five gallon pot, which it was huge,
and I grew that for many years in there, and
I got you know, plant would get five feet tall.
You know, I'd get four or five dozen figs on
there every year. At the fall, I would bring it
(42:48):
back inside somewhere stored like a nanny garage, unheated shed,
and then bring it back out in the springtime. And
I bring it back out as it was coming to
you know, starting the buds or swelling, and let it
come back to life if you take it outside now,
which I would put it in the shade for four
or five days to get used to being outside. Then
move it into the sun that likes as much sun
as possible. I would up to upgrade to size and
(43:10):
what I'd asked for you to do. Take pictures of it,
email those to me and I'll tell you what I
would do as far as upgrading the pot size and all.
Because we're running out of time and I've got to
wait for you to overwinter it as well, Robert, so
email me and I'll send you back that tip sheet
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Our total free number here in the garden, same as
it is every weekend. It's eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
a personal yard boy, talking about yarding on this post weekend,
post Mother's Day weekend. Uh yeah, did you so? Did
you get out of your garden center last weekend? Man?
(00:56):
I think a lot of people did. Garden centers had
a absolute great weekend last weekend, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Finally he had some great weather and the month of May,
you know, obviously the April is will vary at garden
centers depending on the weather. And you know, it's interesting.
We're in this business. I've been in this business all
my life, and I'm in a business that it's fun
(01:19):
and really enjoyed blah blah blah. But I'm one of
the major factors in your success is something you have
absolutely no control over, and that's the weather. So you
you know, you work around it. And garden centers today
have spent the extra money to have covered areas, to
have greenhouses to shop through, you know, things like that,
so they've made it a lot easier for you to shop.
(01:40):
And then of course planting is a different story. But
you know, this year, the weather is just kind of
every it's just rain, and then it was nice for
a couple of days of rain and through the weekend
and it really backed everything off. So we had the
ideal situation where all of a sudden we had three
days in a row with extremely nice temperatures, clear skies,
(02:01):
sunny days. And when did those happen? Friday, Saturday and
Sunday of Mother's Day weekend, and so yeah, it was
packed and a lot of garden centers. Again, thank you
for your patience and hanging in there. But my point being,
of course, this week after Mother's Day is a very
strong week and today and tomorrow as far as the
(02:22):
post weekend of Mother's Day weekend is a very strong
one as well. For a lot of folks that didn't
go out or went out. Now you're back for round
two to get you know what you didn't get the
first weekend. So they're gonna be busy again. Looks like
good weather here and that's a great thing. But what's
interesting about May this year is that Mother's Day is
later in the month and Memorial Day, which a lot
(02:45):
of folks kind of set Memorial Day as a kind
of a guideline to get things planted by Memorial Day weekend.
By the way, Joe Streker's off today, he's taking a
three day weekend. So that's why we had no cup
of Joe. But they wait, you know, try to get
everything done by Memorial weekend. Well that's next weekend, I
believe it or not. So it's a shorter period of time.
(03:05):
So now you cram all this stuff in to a
shorter period of time, trying to work in between the weather,
and it gets pretty crazy. But my point being is
this is that local garden centers, your independent garden centers,
are going to do their best to have a selection
of annuals vegetables, tomatoes, peppers, herbs, things like that through
(03:28):
the week, through Memorial weekend and into June. And then
once we get into the middle of June, you'll really
start to see it thin back. Now you'll thin back,
and but they try that again, keep some things on hand.
May not be exactly what you're looking for in the
vegetables and herb line, but they do try to keep
things going on. So they're growing these succession plantings, especially
(03:51):
of tomatoes and peppers that you know, every two weeks
or so, there's another crop available. So if we're growing
let's say big Boy to me ptoes, then you're gonna
have six flats of depending on the size of the store,
six flats available this week, and then you're going to
have ten days later, two weeks later, six more flats available,
six more flats available to carry it through about a
(04:12):
four to six eight week period. So that's the goal
all right now. Sometimes if it gets really crazy and
really busy, you run out. But there's a lot of
other growers out there that supply garden centers, and if
you work, they work, grow hard, you can find a
supply of something to keep it going and planting time.
(04:33):
Remember you hear me say every year on this show
about I Will, I use the fourth of July as
my final cutoff for planting vegetables for the summer season.
If I happen to be out on you know that
weekend or that during that week of the fourth of July,
and I find a particular potato or tomato or a
pepper or something like that that I've never grown before, uh,
(04:56):
and I would like to try it, and it's still
available at that local garden center. I will still plant
that late into the year, but that's about as late
as I go. And then about a month later we
start to look at already for our fall crops, as
far as those that like the cooler season weather. So
you've got plenty of time for planting. If you get
out to the garden centers and you buy all your
(05:18):
stuff and then you go home and it rains for
two days, don't worry. Leave them sit outside. They'll take
they'll take the rain and all, and then get them
planted as soon as you can. I mean, that's just
the way that goes. But again, you know you don't
have to rush out this week. I mean, dude, get
out to your local garden centers. We're counting on you.
But you're thinking that you're gonna run out. Some things
may run out, but they're always going to have a
(05:40):
selection of tomatoes for you. It may not be the
exact one you're looking for, but we'll have things like
that for you right on through Memorial weekend, through the
end of May and well into June. Okay, So keep
that in mind as we go along. Now, when it
comes to trees and shrubs, roses, ornamental grasses, perennials as well.
Perennials of course that we carry. The garden centers carry
(06:02):
those all season long. Those are going to be there
from the beginning of the spring season all the way
through the fall. Growing perennials and containers gives us the
opportunity to have perennials all the time. As a matter
of fact, June is perennial gardening month, right, Well, that's
when perennials really start to come into their own. At
that point June, you get a lot of things in
flour starting to look pretty good. You can tell what
they look like the whole nine yards, so you know,
(06:25):
so we'll have and again, timing of the way they're
growing is that, you know it will have them really
starting to look good in the garden centers that time
of the year. So again, don't panic if you haven't
been out there yet. Don't panic if you haven't gotten
everything yet, because, like I say, we in the garden
(06:47):
center industry will try to continue to have plants available
for you at least through the end of May and
well into the month of June. I'm talking vegetables and
herbs and things like that. And there is a point
where the demand for that really starts to drop off
and there's really no need to have it. And some
garden centers, I know, with us, we will do like
(07:07):
one gallon and two gallon tomatoes and peppers late in
the season, and you know, maybe you only have three
dozen on hand, but you've got some available in case
somebody lost their all their tomatoes and peppers came back
vacation and were all done or it wasn't able to plant.
But now they are, so you know you've got some
of these larger ones available to go. And by the way,
(07:28):
talking about planting times, you know I talk about me
planting on the up until the fourth of July. I'm
in no hurry right now to get things planted. The
only thing I would be doing right now, which I
did was going through our selection and picking out some
of the couple of tomatoes that I always want to
make sure that I get planted in the containers for
either my mom or myself. So I've got those specific ones.
(07:49):
But I'll continue to use plant right on through all
of this. Uh. And the kicker is if you're planting
right now and I come back and plant mine in
about three weeks from now, we're getting nice and warm.
At that point, those things just explode at that stage
A lot of times are really not too far behind yours.
So you got my point being is you got plenty
(08:11):
of time. And again selection will dwindle as we go
through the rest of the month of May and into June.
But our goal, speaking in general for the local independent
garden centers is to continue to have product available for
you at least through May and in the early June
as best we can. And there's other growers that we
can pull from and things like that, So that's the goal.
(08:34):
That's what we try to do. Ask when you're there,
you know, just don't go in and you look and
there's a sign there and it's all empty on the table,
Ask if they're going to get more or they're trying
to get more or whatever, and then you can take
it from there. But I again, great for everybody getting
out this past weekend. The garden centers were crazy, a
great boost because its kind of been kind of mediocre
(08:56):
going through the spring season. Now this is really really
really dune and help them out a lot and now
rocking and rolling as we as we work our way
through this the rest of the spring season. So thank
you for getting out to those locally owned independent garden
centers and doing what you need to do and continue
to shop and continue to fill in as they will
continue to have plants available for you as long as
(09:18):
you can through May and into June as well. All right,
we're gonna take a quick break, all right, we come back,
have lots of tips to share with you today. We're
taking your calls. We have a couple guests in our
next hour, but we're taking your calls right now at
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Again,
lots of tips to share as well. Don't forget our website,
Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page. In the Garden
with Ron Wilson. We'll talk about that after the break
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as well. Evel And and Dick, you're coming up with the
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Talking Yarding at eight hundred at eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your
firstal yard boy on this post Mother's Day weekend. Hope
you got out to the garden centers last week and
got started if you haven't already buying those trees and
shrubs and flowers and perennials and vegetables and all those,
because man, they are stuck to the gills with all
(13:13):
kinds of great things right now. You can't find a
better selection in the garden centers than the kind of
a three week period right in the middle of May.
It's it's always phenomenal, all right, to the gardening phone lines.
We shall go. And it's that time of the year.
It is May, and you know what May is. May
has all kinds of things going on. But May is
also Lime Disease Awareness Month, and we can always count
on our good friend Evelyn calling during the month of May.
(13:35):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yes, unfortunately, there is lime Disease Awareness Month and this
lyme that's lime. Connecticut was where it was identified, so
that's how it got its name. But it could be
a horrible debilitating disease neurologically and then your joints in
(14:03):
your heart obviously brain because that's where the neurological system is,
and your eyes. So it's important to learn, uh, to
protect yourself and your family. And these tiny, tiny, tiny,
as you say, little ticks are often hiding in places
(14:29):
that we don't see. But it's important to learn. And
by the way, there's I found out there's a professor
at Ohio State University. Her name is Professor Sarah Short.
She's in entomology and she is specializing in the BLME
(14:52):
disease and the tick.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You know, the tick research.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, and so yes, her name is Professor Sarah shortened.
She's very very nice to talk to. You know. I
was thinking this morning to remind people that just any
bug spray, you know, won't do it has to say
(15:20):
uh ticks and lime disease and these tiny ticks. They
are often on your dog and when he comes in
or when the cat comes in, they the takes will
drop off of them because they can't find the skin
(15:42):
for the fur. And then they'll find you. They're looking
to suck a little of your blood and exchange their
fluids for yours. And the sooner that you're aware that
you might have had a take, you have to be
very aware that you might be sick from the tick.
(16:06):
Professor Sarah Short said, there is a certain amount of
pushback by doctors, you know, saying oh, no, it's not
because it's such a copycat illness. So I know, you
protect yourself very well, and so and fishermen and hunters
(16:30):
and people who love nature and who do a lot
of camping and hiking. They just have to know how
to check themselves all the time, and if they do
find a tick, they have to learn how to remove it,
so you're not squashing their gut contents back into yourself.
(16:54):
So I appreciate so much you're making us all aware
to so any any ideas that you might.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Want to add.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You always had a website that you liked a lot.
Do you still use that website?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I do. It's it's out of the University of Rhode Island,
and it's called tick Encounter all one word tick Encounter,
and also the site insect Shield, which is a commercial
(17:31):
clothing that is treated with the repellent Permetron and they
have many resources, but there's a great deal online through
the CDC. And the one thing that I've still noticed
(17:52):
that when websites show what the tick looks like, they
make it look like you're going to see it. They
make it look big, they exaggerate the size as usually
these ticks, especially the ones that are infected, they're as
(18:13):
tiny as a spec of dirt. And if you see
a spec of dirt, it doesn't come off it might
very well be the lime tick. I know there are
many other ticks that have terrible diseases, but the lime
disease tick is by far the most common in every state.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So yeah, that deer tick, and that's that is this.
I always say it's like the size of a poppy seed. Yeah,
I mean that's you know, and that's about what it
looks like when it's attached. And I think we always
you and I've always kidd it, but you know, this
is one time, if you've got a partner or a
spouse or whatever, to get to know each other really well.
Because when you're done working in the yard and garden, somebody,
you know, besides yourself inspecting somebody else to look to
(19:01):
make sure those aren't stuck somewhere. And they always seem
to make it in those areas where you can't see
really well.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Absolutely. And the one thing, like if it's the size
of a poppy seat, it can also be somewhat sometimes
it's not as dark as you would expect. It can
be elusive, so you know, you're looking for definitely a
needle and a haystagger, and it might be around, you know,
(19:30):
any parts that you can't see exactly good, Yeah, Evelyn.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
We always appreciate your update. As a matter of fact,
I do a little newsletter every week for our employees
and this week it was its line disease Awareness Month
and posted the You know, some folks know to look
for and how to remove those and all. So we
always appreciate you letting us know. We always know it's
May when we can hear from you, and they keep
everybody aware, and it's they we use May as an
awareness month. But of course you need to be aware
(19:55):
of this all the time. You can get a take
any time during the year, really, so if you're out
in the in the weeds, even work out in the
yard and the grass, sometimes you can pick them up.
Got a pet that goes outside a lot, it's you
can pick them up from them as well. So be
aware this week lyme disease can be a really nasty thing.
Uh So learn more about ticks. Learn more about the repellents.
(20:15):
Evylan' said a great thing. They're not all insect repellants
repelled ticks, So make sure that's listened for you as well.
And inspect, inspect, inspect every time you come back in
from being out working in whatever area. That may may
be a tick habitat all. Right, great information, Evilan always
appreciate that quick break. We come back, Ken and Dick.
You're coming up next. Here in the Garden with Ron.
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we should go to Mary in Ohio. Ken, Good morning,
Good morning, Ron.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
How are you this morning?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Ken? I'm great and yourself.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Oh, I'm doing well. Just driving down to work. I
started getting into some container gardening. Some praise be gardening.
I'm focusing a lot on tomatoes, cucum, pickles, and green
beans and stuff like that. Put some lettuce in our
or things like that. I got a two part question.
(24:07):
Number one, how deep should be raised beds be minimum
and the containers for the tomatoes and that kind of stuff.
And number two, I've been doing a lot of research
on like YouTube, and so I see a lot of
natural enhancements like yeast and brown sugar, add some salt.
(24:32):
Do those actually work? Because I'm trying to stay away
from the chemicals but going more natural because I'm doing
a lot of tomato canning and making my own Marinier sauce.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
Sure going on to your person coming up.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
So I'm just wondering what do you think about those
natural remedies enhancements if you.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You know, again, there are those who have been around forever.
Absence salts especially has been around for as a matter
of fact, the Epsen Salts Council actually put together a
website many years ago explaining the use of Ebsen salts
in the garden. And they actually had some that was
brought out and because it used to be not even
labeled for garden use, but brought it out and put
(25:17):
it a label on it for gardening and actually have
some rates that you can determine as far as water
soluble diluting, et cetera, et cetera. Magnesium sulfate is what
it is. I mean, that's you know, you can get
that in a fertilizer too, but it's magnesium sulfate. Folks
have used Ebsen salts for years because it was Ebsen
salts was always on the shelf for soaking your feet
(25:40):
or whatever it may be. And so by adding the
Ebsen salts, you added a little bit of a magnesium
and of course the sulfur as well, which plants like both.
So you know that's there. And again they've got a
website you can go and read all about it. The
other ones. There are pros and cons to both. I
would say that if you're going to look into doing those,
I would be cautious. I would experiment. I would do
(26:01):
as much reading and maybe even try to talk to
folks that have done those. I'm not a big home
remedy person, but again, those are some old those have
been around, someone has been around for a long time,
not a lot of traction, but you do read about
them on the internet, so I would. I would just
learn from other people that have definitely done it before.
(26:22):
I have not with either one of those. I have
with the Ebsence salts uh, but learn more about it
before you try it. I think. The other thing to remember, Ken,
is that on the market today there are a ton
of all natural, all organic fertilizers that are available for you,
soil amendments that you know that are available for you
that are processed and you know, specific for using as
(26:47):
a soil amendment. So those are available for you out
there at the garden centers. They're not cheap, but they
are available for you if you want to, you know,
continue that direction, which I applaud you for doing that.
I think you'll also find it in the raised beds
and in the containers. You know, you'll also be able
to find organic potting soil, organic garden soil that you
can add if you want to, you know, do that.
(27:09):
I'm a big one, And I'll go back to the
raised beds. You were asking about it earlier. Are these
beds on top of the ground or on pavement?
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Well, I've got my tomato plants are all in containers
like five gallon pots and half gas or half barrel
fifty five gallons food grade barrels, and then the.
Speaker 10 (27:30):
Other the regular vegetables are touching the ground, going up
about three about to twenty four to thirty inches.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Because if you've got soil underneath the raised beds, you
don't have to go quite as high because you can
also prep that soil below it, and so they can
actually go down into the original soil it's there as well.
And I always I do recommend that if you're building
a raised bed on top of existing soil, is to
go in there and prepare that soil before you can
build the bed, so you've got halfway decent soil before
(28:04):
you can fill up the planter bed. And then whatever
depth you choose is up to you. Personally, I like
them to be about eighteen and twenty four inches deep.
Reason being is gets it up higher for you. You
don't have to bend over quite as much easier to access,
easier to work with, and that you know, again that
handles about anything that you want to grow, including tomatoes
(28:25):
and peppers that have a little more of an extensive
roots system. So eighteen to twenty four inches should be
more than enough. When I grow tomatoes and they're indetermined tomatoes,
I don't use anything less than a twenty to twenty
five gallon container per tomato plant, okay, so, and I
will put a basil into each one of those, but
(28:45):
otherwise it's the tomato plant by itself twenty gallon pot.
And again that gives me about fifteen inches deep, maybe eighteen,
and that seems to work well. Five gallon containers will work.
You may have to water a little bit more often,
but again, putting things in that those containers like core
coi R can help cut down on your watering. Soil
(29:08):
moist which is a polymer you can put that into
help cut down your watering as well. The leafy vegetables
like spinach and lettuce and things like that, you know,
they really only need six to eight inches deep is
about all they they would require. So you can get
by with a with a more shallow pot, with something
like that. So you know, and I've known a lot
(29:28):
of folks that have done raised bed containers and do
specific ones just for salad greens, and I only have
them about twelve inches off the ground, so they're very,
very shallow because you don't really don't need that much soil.
So it depends on what you're growing. But eighteen inches
twenty four inches, I think that's where I would be
shooting to have the depth on those raised beds.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Okay, the range skilling thirty inches because I'm fifty six,
my wife is sixty, so we don't want to bend over.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Quite Hey, hey, you know what, Ken, the higher the
I'm now I'm with you. I mean, most people get
scared when you start getting about thirty thirty six inches
off the ground. It's like, wow, that thing's really sticking
up out of the ground. That's great, and I'm behind
you one hundred percent. If you go with a thirty
thirty six inch height, have at and put a nice
rail around the outside so benching that you could sit
(30:18):
down on it and you know, lean back in. I'm
right there with you. I think it's absolutely outstanding. I
had a great question, Kenn. I'm glad you brought this up.
I had a great question this week. Somebody had built
a raised beds and they were about twenty four to
thirty inches high. The question was, that's going to cost
a lot of money. We did when I realize to
(30:38):
fill those things up with soil and amendments and all
what can we can we use anything as a filler
at the bottom because I only need about eighteen inches
max for growing vegetables. And if you look back, if
you look back at the old Google culture method where
they used to use logs and branches and sticks and
things and use that as the bottom filler, and then
(31:00):
on top use your regular top soil potting mix, you know,
organic matter mixed. You're on top. As that stuff breakdown
breaks down over the years, it's gonna settle anyway. You
just keep adding organic matter every year. So you fill
it up with these things that are going to break
down like that, like the wood right from the trees,
or the debris yard debris, and eventually it does break down,
(31:21):
but it helps to fill it up for you at
the same time using all natural, all organic products you
know in the bottom of those those bins. But you know,
I again, go ahead, good, good, for you. I'll tell
you what. There's a book out there that with Tara
Nola had written this wrote this book several years ago
(31:43):
and it's called Raised Bed Revolution. Probably one of the
best books. There's the two of them out there that
are good, but Tara is one of the This is
I really like this one, Raised Bed Revolution. And if
you ever get a chance to if the library's got it,
or to buy, it's usually fairly inexpensive. Great ideas, and
therefore you on Raise Beds.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Okay, sir, thank you very much, and I will definitely
pick that book up.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
All right. Thanks Ken, good talking we did. You keep
us posting on how everything turns out. Send pictures. I
love seeing pictures of folks vegetable guardens, and I like
the flower gardens too, but you know me, I love
the vegetable guards and especially the ones that people really
get involved and they do the raised beds and then
they fence it off or the deer put the gate
on it. I love looking at things like that. There's
(32:25):
so many great ideas, but Tara Nolan book was probably
put out ten years ago, still one of the best,
I think when it comes to giving you ideas and
how to do raised beds and it's called raised bed
Revolution and it's a good one, no doubt. Before we
take a break, let's go to Dayton. Dick from Dayton,
good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 11 (32:44):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I'm great? How about yourself?
Speaker 11 (32:47):
How do you like the weather?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I'm loving the weather. Now, let me ask you this.
You know you worked at Low's for all these years
and had always experienced the Mother's Day weekend and the
week after. You didn't buy a chance to go over
and help mount this past weekend, did you?
Speaker 11 (33:00):
No?
Speaker 12 (33:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
I had a couple of jogs. I played in the
those for group Monday, and yeah, it was pretty good.
I played Thursday to and Friday. It was great.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:14):
Yeah, one of my friends has been taking me so yeah.
I love this weather, you.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Know, pretty nice.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's great now people are finally able to get out
and work in the yards, get things planted and taken
care of. So this is perfect timing.
Speaker 10 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
I talked to my cousin. She called me. She went
to Low's and stoked up there and she said, boy,
oh boy, the lions were bad. She was getting bolts. Yeah,
and she bought a lot of flowers. But that's pretty
good though. She was always my uncle was a gardener
and my dad. Yeah, it's it's kind of neat. She
lives up by the lake there. She said, it's really
(33:51):
pretty down by the lake up at Longview Park. But
uh yeah, so I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Doing okay good. What's always good to hear from now?
You're a big vegetable eater?
Speaker 11 (34:01):
Oh yeah, I love vegtivals.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, no matter what, you pretty much eat all this
to all the greens and all.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
That, all the greens, all the greens. Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Dick, always a pleasure. Okay, all right, take care, Bye bye.
Dick from Dayton eating his vegetables, Danny Gleeson said childhood days.
Because Danny will eat anything. Childhood days. His grandmother used
to take him out right and have you worked with
her in the garden and he would be picking greens
and anything else, bugs and slugs and eating whatever was
(34:31):
out there. That's why he eats just about anything that's
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Again that total free number eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five to Cleveland we Go Bill, Good morning.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Yes, sir, I've been listening for some time and I'm
trying to find out I live in Worcester, Ohio.
Speaker 12 (36:39):
What temperature zone im in? Is there a place I
can go and find out? You know, climate zone?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah? If and again remember these zones growing zones are
based on the average coldest winter temperatures, so they don't
have anything do with fross or the heat in the summer,
although they're working on a heat the heat zone map too.
But if you just google, and I think the Ohio
Department of Agriculture has it on their map. But if
you just google growing Zones and that'll take you to
(37:08):
a website that has the United States in general, so
you can see all the zones, then you can click
on Ohio. Now in the Worcester area, Ohio is mostly
six A, six B, B is the southern part of Ohio.
A is towards the central to northern part of Ohio.
There's a couple there's a couple of small pockets of
five right in the that's I think that's more of
(37:31):
a northeast of Columbus.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You may be in one of those pockets of fives,
but otherwise there's six, A, six B basically zone six.
But you know what we're seeing now, Bill, is all
of a sudden, we're seeing zone seven creeping in a
little bit along Cleveland, along the lake, and in the
southern part of the Ohio River, which means it's that
What that tells us is that our average coldest temperatures
(37:55):
in the winter are getting a little warmer all the time.
We used to be all zone five and then went
to zone six and now starting to see zone seven
seven creep in as well. But you can pretty much
count that you are a zone six. So when you
go to the local garden center and you're looking at
plants and it says hardy, you'll say zone whatever on
there you're looking for six, five, four, three, two one.
(38:16):
If it says zone seven or higher, those are those
are states like Tennessee and further south.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Gotcha, Well, I I we have the at Agricultural Technical
Institute here and well I can probably call them they'd
be able to answer my question.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, but if you know, if you if you print
it out, I mean just go to the website, I
think how Department of AAG has it. But if you
just printed out the state of Ohio, you'll it has
it all mapped out for you and you can see
exactly where you are and exactly what zone that is.
And again there's a couple of five pockets, but more
than like it. Just if you just consider yourself a
six you got it made?
Speaker 12 (38:56):
Okay, what was that website again?
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The website if you if you the USDA or the
ODA High Department of Agriculture or the United States Department
of Agriculture both have those that map of both the
states and Ohio alone and then you just like click
on it and it'll blow it up for you and
you can find exactly where you are there with Worcester
and see where you are as far as Witch zone,
(39:20):
but it's pretty much all of Ohio is pretty much
six A or six B.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
Okay, Well, thank you much for your time.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You're well, you're welcome, Bill, appreciate you listeners, show appreciate
the call. And again that's an important thing to know
because especially when you're doing trees and shrubs, roses, hardy
plants that come back year after years, knowing what zone
you're in. And again that's based on the average coldest temperatures.
There has nothing to do with frost in the spring
(39:48):
or in the fall, has nothing to do with the
heat in the summer. It's all based on winter heartiness
and that you're growing zone. And it's interesting to look
on the first of all, look at the entire United States,
and these zones basically can go coast to coast. Five
and six go coast to coast. Now you know, you
get zone six out in Reno, Nevada. Their plant palace
(40:10):
is a little bit different, but it's the same zone,
and you can see how they sweep through. And if
you go back and look at the zones twenty years ago,
fifteen years ago, you'll see how we used to be
five and how everything changed at that point a few
years back and went to zone six. But then you
can click on your state and then blow that up
and look at your particular area. But like I say,
(40:31):
for the most part, for Ohio, it's a six B
six A. Most of it's probably six B and six
a's toward the more toward the northern part, a little
bit of seven up there in Cleveland, a little bit
of seven around the Ohio River. But it's interesting to
see that, and then when you see that on your
plant tags, it'll tell you whether or not it's hardy
for your area, being winter hardiness. Robert and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, Ron, sir, longwood guard, just
blooming like crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Oh my god? Are you are you? Are you close enough?
You're close enough to go visit? Right?
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well, guess what I retired at March I work there now.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Uh no, are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Both? We're a longwood household.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Oh my gosh, I'm jealous's heck.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Well, anyway, here's my question for you, Ron. We received
the gift of a fig tree and we've raised it
to this point and it's about twenty inches high still
in a pot. I had one before one mistake and
the thing went, do I when should I start to
move this outside? Should I restart to repot it? And
(41:39):
eventually which size should it go in? The ground for
fear of losing it.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
You know, do you know what variety you have?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
I do not know. It looked like a pretty traditional
fig tree because it was raised from seed from a
friend of ours, God Jersey.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
All right, so we don't know what what it is.
As far as winter hardiness, they probably didn't have one
growing out out side right.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Right, we're up here. I mean it's freezing cold up there.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, but you know, but but you know what, you
guys are kind of the same as us, and you
know that zone six, zone five, and the Chicago hardy
fig is actually hardy for zone six, and it may
die back a little bit over the winter, but it
actually is hardy for outside. But nevertheless, you can grow
any fig outside as long as you would protected over
the winter time properly. Uh, there's a way to wrap
(42:26):
those things up and actually plant them in the ground
and leave them there. Otherwise if you don't, there's a
good chance you're gonna freeze out over the winter. Now.
I used to when I first started growing figs, I
used to grow them in containers and I grew them
in a twenty five gallon pot, which it was huge,
and I grew that for many years in there, and
I got you know, plant would get five feet tall.
You know, I'd get four or five dozen figs on
there every year. At the fall, I would bring it
(42:48):
back inside somewhere stored like a nanny garage, unheated shed,
and then bring it back out in the springtime. And
I bring it back out as it was coming to
you know, starting the buds or swelling, and let it
come back to life if you take it outside now,
which I would put it in the shade for four
or five days to get used to being outside. Then
move it into the sun that likes as much sun
as possible. I would up to upgrade to size and
(43:10):
what I'd asked for you to do. Take pictures of it,
email those to me and I'll tell you what I
would do as far as upgrading the pot size and all.
Because we're running out of time and I've got to
wait for you to overwinter it as well, Robert, so
email me and I'll send you back that tip sheet
compliments of the folks at Logi's Plants, which is an
actual tip sheet. Come up next, Rita Hikenfeld here in
the garden with Ron Wilson. How is your garden growing.
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In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
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