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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our toll free number eight hundred at eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy, talking about yarding on this post
Mother's Day weekend. Hopefully you got out last week and
visited your locally owned independent garden centers and kept your
patients because I know they were all packed. I know
they've all been very busy this week and will be
busy this weekend as well, kind of the busiest time
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of the entire season. So again and be patient, and
like I said earlier in the show, remember they will
continue to restock as best they can throughout the rest
of the month and into June. With the herbs, the vegetables,
things like that. Trees and shrubs, perennials will continue to
stay stocked with no problem. But the other ones, of course,
eventually will start to dwindle down. But the goal is
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to have those for you growing succession plantings right on
through the season. And of course Mother's Day weekend being
later this year and Memorial Weekend being earlier this year
kind of compacted everything down into a two or three
week period here, so remember you got plenty of time
to plant. July fourth is the last that I plant
vegetables if I find something really different that I want
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to try out there. But you know, May and June
great months for planting the vegetables, so you got time.
We weren't even into June yet. So if you can
find it, you know, and a lot of things can
be grown from seed. It's amazing how many folks don't
realize what can be direct sowed into the garden and
grown from seed. But you know, again, find out more
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about that. Visit your local independent garden centers and they'll
tell you all about it. So be sure and check
that out. But anyway, they are staying stocked and ready
to go, So get out and give them a visit
and see see what they got out there for you.
By the way, talking about yardening, uh, don't forget our website,
it's Ron Wilson online dot com. For those of you
in Ohio the hot Department of Agriculture. We're seeing the
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spotted lantern fly you. As matter of fact, we heard
about it on the news during our last break there.
Uh in New York getting worse and worse. Learn more
about it. They've expanded the quarantine area in Ohio. UH,
So you might want to get on there and check
learn more about it, what to look for if you
find it. They'd like to know where you're seeing it. UH,
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so we can find out about it easily controlled. You
get on it early and it's easily controlled. It's like
a huge It's like an aphoon on steroids. This thing
is huge but colorful, probably of the most beautiful insects
that that's out there in all of it's different phases.
But but learn more about it again at run Wilson
online dot com. That is a post from Buggy Joe
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Boggs and and UH and friends from the Ohio State
Universe Extension UH byg ol dot OSU dot ed you. Also,
Rita's recipe is talking about soft and hard herbs, and
a recipe this week is barnar sauce. It's a it's
a great one as well, So check that out now.
As I'm driving around, folks always say every nine and
can you kind of mention what you're seeing out there
this week? Because I see things in flower and I'm
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not sure what they are. I'm gonna tell you something
looking around right now. And you think we've already kind
of gotten through the spring season with a lot of
flowering shrubs as flowers flowing. But as you look out
there right now, there are several trees that are in
flower that are just putting on a spectacular show. As
a matter of fact, my pick of the week this
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week happens to be Japanese tree lilac. And at this
time of the year, I always get the question that says,
what's that medium the small side tree I'm seeing right now,
it's in flower, white, fragrant flower kind of looks like
a lilac. The bark kind of looks like lilac. The
leaves look like a lilac. Any idea what they are
because I see them along the street trees and I
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see them spotted here in the landscapes. Smells like a lilac. Well,
guess what it is? A lilac. It's a tree lilacs,
commonly known as Japanese tree like lilac. Although we also
see out there Chinese tree lilacs, the peking lilac, which
is out there too, a little bit different, and I'll
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talk more about that as we go down through the
show here, but that one is available for you as well.
But that's what we're seeing most of right now in
our areas as far as the flower putting on a
tremendous show at a nice medium sized tree twenty five
feet high, fifteen feet wide, kind of an up right
rounded head. Great for patio trees, small landscapes, street trees,
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et cetera, et cetera. But you can check that out
on our website, Ron Wilson online dot com. And that
would be our plant pick of the week, which is
a Japanese tree lilac. Also seeing black locus starting to
come into flower. Chinese dogwoods now starting to come into flower,
red buck eyes putting on a great show. Fort McNair
horse chestnut, which is kind of a pinky a little
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more of a pinkish color now putting on a great
show as well. And one last before we go back
to the guarding phone lines. A lot of emails this
week folks seeing Tricolor Beach because when that new growth
comes out on Tricolor Beach, that pink is absolutely outstanding.
Now it kind of fades away as we go into
the season, but right now it puts on a show.
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A little bit of a finicky type of a tree
to plant. It likes morning sun and maybe protected a
little bit from the heat. Of the afternoon. But Tricolor Beach. Wow.
And they're not cheap, they're expensive. But what a great
folio show that's putting on in our area. Right now
to Fort Thomas, Kentucky. We go, Jerry, good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Good morning, Ron.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yes, you had a guest on a couple of weeks
ago who wrote a book about house plant propagation. Can
you give me the author's name and the book name?
It was like the Complete Guide the houseplant propagation.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, and I don't. I don't have her name written down.
I can you email me or I'll mention it next week.
I usually have that written down somewhere and I'm looking
real quick. I don't. I don't remember her name. It's
a it's a complete guide the houseplant propagation. If you
can you email me, I'll get it right back to you. Uh,
(06:35):
and I'll like today or tomorrow. Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia
dot com. Okay, and I'll get it right back. It's
a it's a great book. As a matter of fact,
my wife took it away from me after I had
her on the show, the Lady on the show, because
she's tried to do that now.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
iHeartMedia.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia dot com. Anything else a day,
all right, appreciate it. I should have that written down
here somewhere, but I don't see it on my notes.
And she'll shoot me for not remembering her name. But anyway,
it's a great book. But my wife took it and
now she's looking to propagate some of her house plants.
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It's a great reference, and I will I'll even mention
it next week on the show talking about yardening, and
of course talking about what I'm seeing flower out there
right now, and again it's the plan of the week,
would be the Japanese tree lilac, Chinese tree lilac, also
in flower right now. It's called the p Peking. It's
not quite as hardy for our area than the Japanese
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tree lilac. It has a smaller flower, smaller leaf. The
bark is kind of looks like a cherriot is multicolor,
kind of smooth, but not quite as hardy. Sometimes winter
cold winters get a little bit of nip back on those,
but pretty close. But you'll see both of those being
sold out there as well, tricolor beach black locusts and
flower Chinese dogwood, and you'll see Chinese. What's interesting about
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Chinese dogwood cusa is the fact that it will grow
and it loves the sun, so unlike its cousin the
corners Florida, which likes it's an understory tree, likes the
morning sun, little protection from the afternoon sun. Although many
of the newer varieties, like spring Grow, which is outstanding,
does a pretty good job in full sun as well,
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but this one does. It likes the sun. Leaves are
more pointed, a little bit smaller, the flowers a little smaller,
more pointed. But it's called cusa China area cornice cusa
or and you'll in Chinese dogwood you'll absolutely love. And
there's many of them on the market as well. And
of course I love the red buckeye as well. Great color,
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you can't beat that either. But again, looking around our area,
lots of trees showing good color, which is again you
don't think about it very much this time of the year,
but a lot of them are restoring, are showing good color,
and the beekeepers are loving it when black locusts are
in flower, because the that makes a sweet, very tasty
honey as well. All right, quick break, we come back
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time for a little home improvement from mister Gary Sullivan.
And then at the bottom of the hour, Buggy Joe Boggs.
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Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. During the break, I found my notes.
It's Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation. Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation.
Lindsey Sisty SI s t I. Lindsay will shoot me
if if she knew that I forgot her name. Hopefully
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she's I know she's not listening to the show, But
Lindsey Cisty SI s t I the Ultimate Guide to
Houseplant Propagation. Now, Ladies and Gentlemen's time for the man,
the met, the legend, the he most listened to Home
Improveman show host in the entire Solar system. His website,
Garysullivan online dot com. Ladies and Gentlemen, the one, the only,
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mister Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Mister Wilson, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Great? Did you survive that big front that came through
last night?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah? That was exciting.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's a quick and quick aut but man did it
come down?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
It poured little hal all works, But you.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Know what, we thought, it was a little hailed and
we looked out and I couldn't really tell because it
was coming down so hard.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It was hell only lesson at our place for a
few minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, maybe two.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I mean, there was a bunch of and it wasn't huge,
but you're right, it was. It was really coming down.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
We have the wider gutters and it was coming over
the top of the gutter.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know, that's a good subject today. And I've been
looking at mine and really watching them over the last
four or five years, and they're five inch gutters and
they're not big enough. Got a steep roof and they're
just really not big enough. Yeah, so now what, uh,
probably go to a six inch?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
How big do they come?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Well, I know they go up to six inch. I
don't know if they go beyond that. I'm sure they
do for commercial gutters, but I'm sure six inch would
take care of it. But when I had the house built,
you know, long twenty five years ago, we put in
five and that was a step up from the standard four.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So do people still use the four anymore?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
It's not too much. I was going to say, yeah,
it's almost all five inches.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
A small like on a shed or a small barn
or garage on one thing.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah, but if you got a steep roof and
you get a rain, like what was it. I think
at one time it was calibrated like four inches an hour,
and you know, five inch gutter on a steep.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Roof, forget about it. Forget about it if I get
up at it. So I guess there are limitations as
far as whiter than that is properly attaching them to
the building.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, they got you know, it used to be the
old nails and farrels, but you know, anymore, they're really
brackets that support underneath the gutters and different things, which
is much better, especially for areas that are in you know,
winter conditions with snow and ice and snow dam or
ice dams. So you know, there's better support mechanisms than
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used to be, and not all those farrels and nails wherever. Really,
you know, driven into the trust, they were just going
through a one inch facia board, right, and you know,
your gutters are dipping and they're leaking behind, and the
facia board isn't painted behind the gutter, and then the
facia rots and then you got raccoons in your attic.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Or squirrels or squirrels or whatever or whatever wants to
come through that hole.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
That's right, that's right. They will make a hole in it,
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I remember visiting in a state I think it was
the Fleischman Estate here in Cincinnati, and they had the
copper Oh yeah, utters and all. I mean, of course
it's a huge estate. Copper gutters and down spouts. Wow. Yeah,
it was beautiful. And I looked at that. I just
kept thinking the craftmanship to work to put those things
(16:21):
up there.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
For sure, Oh my gosh, for sure. I mean in
all soldered and stuff. Yes, jeez, they're beautiful. When they age.
You get that greenish tin on.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The Yes, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Yeah, it is beautiful. I wouldn't want to pay that
bill anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
No saying we were curious to ask what the Sullivans
have their thermostats said on in the summertime, Well, it's
either saying seventy eight.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah again, Well, I think it's really all about the
humidity though, ron I think I really do. Yesterday it
got of it didn't get We actually closed the windows
intern the air on about four o'clock till the storm
went through. As the first time we turned it on
and it was because it humidity was getting a little
(17:07):
higher in the house. This again just a little uncomfortable,
not bad. And we weren't home all day and we
just I said, I'm just gonna knock this humidity out
of here. And it was fine within a couple hours.
And we had said seventy six. But when you get
into the middle of the summer, you know, when you
got the uminity and the heat and it's really beaten
down on the house. Don't have a lot of landscaping
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absorbing it or something, you know. I mean, it can vary,
but to answer your question, usually about seventy five seventy six,
but it is truly all about controlling the humidity. And
used to tip a long time ago that when you're
heavier air conditioner on, don't put the fan on on
because as it's pulling the moisture out of the air
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and the coils start getting wet. If your fans on
on so it's running all the time, it's just blowing
all that moisture back into the house. So if you
turn the fan on auto, it only turns on when
it's pulling the moisture ug It gives a little time
for those coils to dry a little bit, and it's
really helped us control the humidity level in the house,
(18:12):
which has enabled us to move the thermostat to a
higher number.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
We you know, it hasn't been hot in our area,
but as soon as we reached that upper seventies, I
think we had eighty once, the humidity came along with it,
and it felt like it was ninety five because you're
not used to, you know, that humidity.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, well, here's something which is kind of interesting when
when you know, when you hit that day that gets
around eighty okay, you said upper seventy, say eighty eighty
two degrees, If you open up your windows, that eighty
two degrees comes right into the house, right, But I
feel a well inslaved house and well inslaved windows, and
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you lead those windows down when it's eighty degrees, it
could be seventy two degrees inside the house. We started
noticing that when it was like seventy six outside, but
it was like seventy indoors, and that that and everything
was shut off, and that that thermostat never.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Moved a degree.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
And then if you open up all the windows at
four in the afternoon all that he comes rushing, And
so what were doing is we've been opening the windows
in the morning and then around one o'clock we closed
the windows and in the evening we open them up again.
Because you got those good insulated windows. You got insulation
in your house. It's really really helped control the electric bill.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Interesting. You know, Dan had mentioned earlier that you liked
it warmer because as you get older, folks like it.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That's right, that's like that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Come on, now, don't get on him about that. But
you get control what you can and can't do.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
It's the shawl always helps them.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Hey, I'll tell you what we had throws on the
back of all there he goes, he cut me off,
So there you go. Yeah, so what are we gonna
talk about today?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Well, I I think we're going to talk a lot
about just kind of assessing the house. And really it's
been a weird spring and we've got a lot of rain.
I think it's kind of hard to get off the
schneid this year, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like I might off the schneid.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, you know, get going.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I guess we can. We just did.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
But I think we're going to do a checklist on
maintenance on the home and start prioritizing what needs to
be done next. And again, if you have contractors you're
thinking to do a project for you, you better get out there,
get that estimate, get that book.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Now, Gary says, get off the schneid. You got it, brother,
Have a great show. Gary Sullivan online at dot com.
Take care of my friend. All right, quick break we
come back as just coming up next by you, Joe
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d U, Ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical and ready
to get off the schneid, Buggy Joe bug.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Man, I'm getting off the schneid and starting and going
back to posting some big alerts.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Have you have you heard that? I guess you've heard
that expression before. No, get off the schneid.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I never I was listening to I mean I was
off this.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
No, I never heard that's legit when I went online.
And it's like it's a saying for all kinds of things,
get off the schneid. That Gary Salmon, he is so
full of information. I'm full of uh information.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's a it's incredible and just what's gonna you know,
what's gonna? What are we gonna learn next? In fact,
we probably should just get right back and and listen
to his wisdom some more.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Talk more so, did you get that front at your
home last night?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know that was remarkable? Yes? And no, it kind
of split. I mean that's a that's a very strange thing,
that that that that we sometimes see. And I think
you and I even talked about this you know, you
and Gary and I sort of we're sort of lined
up in a way east west right, kind of.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
Sort of the farthest west from you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Danny's in the same line.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Oh was that right? So you probably got a pretty
It probably called you to get off your schneide to
see what was going on, right, Yeah, yes, it did.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, dfid.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
But any rate it? Uh well, it's interesting now I
claim that, and I think I'm right about this.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Uh it.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know, these storms have been have been splitting. You know.
I put an apple on this. It's got kind of
a shield in the app and I think it's shielding us,
you know, from this happening.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Huh, that's that's crazy. I was in touch with yesterday,
thank you, Joe Joe Strecker who lives down this would
be south of our pattern, and he was getting a
little bit of lightning and thunder, but they got nothing
but a little drizzle.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know, it's interesting. I thought that that we heard
earlier in the day things are gonna be a little
rougher further south. Right. Yeah, well you know when it started. Yeah,
and but you know, we got things first, and so
I truthfully wasn't paying attention at all. I was. I
was actually looking up some information on yellow poplar, which
(26:12):
we'll get to in a minute. When when you know,
just because of curiosity and also because I'm going to
be post, I'm going to go back to posting big
old alerts. I've kind of been off that cycle because
of trying to get fact sheets done. I know that
sounds kind of stranger, and the listeners, well, what the
heck's he talking about? Well, you always talk about, you know,
(26:33):
the big old buckeye yard and garden line, and that's
where we post, you know, things that are happening. We
try to hopefully have things that are happening right now.
You know that what we're observing. But then universities also
have these publications called fact sheets, and they're intended to
(26:54):
be I hate to use the word static, but that's true.
They're updated every so often, but they provide a lot
of background information and ron you know this, a lot
of my legal alerts I get to be rather long.
When we talk about the life cycle of things. We
talk about some general things because I have to put
that in there. But the idea over the last little
(27:16):
bit has been to really work hard on getting the
fact sheets posted so I can refer to them. And
for example, you and I talked about the cicada fact
sheet that was updated. There had been one published in
twenty seventeen, and so now as the brood is emerging
in southern Ohio, people can then reference that. And then
(27:39):
all I need to do is just reference the fact
sheet when I do reports Friday or yesterday, yesterday? What
day is this? Yesterday? I submitted a fact sheet on
soil testing. It's an update, and I think you'll find
it's a much more useful update because we do some
diagnostics in there too. And there again, instead of you
(28:03):
in a big old alert talking about, you know, symptoms
produced by a nutrient deficiency, Uh, we can talk about that,
but then when we talk about getting the soil tested,
I don't need to repeat everything. So that's that's kind
of you know where things have been recently. The reason
why I bring that up. But I've actually gotten some emails.
(28:25):
You know, have you stopped posting big old alerts and
new and you announce it? And uh, I just thought
i'd better lead off with no the alert. My alerts
aren't dead. Other people are posting alerts, and that's something
to remember because there are a group of us that
are involved in this, a whole team, and so it's
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just just taking a little pause while I get some
background stuff posted. Does that make good sense?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Along with the ever lovely Amy Stone.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yes, Amy Stone, and and Pam Bennett and the lovely
Pam Bennett and then Eric Draper, which we're not sure
about that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I wouldn't say ever love it either way. I was
out and about yesterday and uh, cicadas are out and
about and yeah, saw them blue Ash, saw them in
Simms Township, saw them in Claremont County, believe it or not,
Batavia and yep, yeah, and really it's them there. My
(29:27):
mom's got them big time in Simms Township and also
saw them Inmorrow.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
So now you can you can lie to me every
place you stopped. I reported it a photo and reported
it on Cicada Safari. Right.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, but I asked, I asked the homeowners to do that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well, And that is true. That's very and that's a
really good idea. You know. I'm I've been I have
it downloaded now. I haven't been able to drive around
quite as much as past week. I was up and
we had a team study tour up in northeast Ohio
Lake County, the nursery production area that we tend to
(30:11):
always historically think about for Ohio, right, I mean that's
you know, when I came, that's the end because of
sandy soil, and I have to ron. I became soil
envious up there. I mean, you just you look and
you think, oh my gosh, if we had that kind
of drainage and if we had the you know, the
higher acidity in the soil, we well, I'm backing away
(30:35):
because I do love where we live, but it is,
it is fantastic soil. So last week I was up
there this past week just visiting around, seeing things, learning things,
and so I've kind of got off the mark with
the cicadas. But the big point is as we drive around,
as I'm going to be driving around this coming week,
is just stopping and taking a picture using the Cicada
(30:59):
Safaria app and then it just it just uploads with
your location. And I mentioned this before because this isn't
just happening in southern Ohio. This brood goes really far south.
And you know, it's funny when I first even though
we're just at the northern edge of it. I mentioned
(31:21):
this last week. It's actually one of the larger broods. However,
we're not ever sure for you know, exactly where the
edges are on these broods, because you know, we can
only get information every seventeen years. So Cicada Safari was produced,
oh my goodness, well some time ago by doctor Jen
(31:45):
Kritsky and Mount Saint Joe. He's retired, but not really retired, right,
he still and he literally wrote the book on cicadas.
He actually wrote a book about this brood and other cicadas.
But he and the IT folks at Mount Saint Joseph
College developed this app easy to use so that when
(32:06):
we get these opportunities to find out exactly where they are.
For example, you're mentioning Sims Township, you're mentioning where all
blue ash. Well, if you go back and look at
the historical records, there were reports in that general vicinity.
But then how far north you see where I'm heading,
How far north or how far west? Because now you're
(32:29):
getting very close to what has historically been the edge,
and you know, I'm hearing reports and trying to get
people to report it to, you know, on Circasa Safari
of it being a little further west than what I
remembered in two thousand and eight when this brewd last
emerged and emerge. And that's that's the key. I just said,
(32:51):
exactly what I just said, exactly what the challenge is.
I kind of remember them being well, you know, I
can't remember clearly things that happened last week, right correct,
or maybe earlier in the day. So so that's where
things that's where we really do need listeners help. We
(33:13):
really do need your help and taking the time to
report these it's easy to do. It's an easy app
to use, and that could be hugely helpful for the future.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What is that noise?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I'm here and we'd either hum.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You can usually tell me. You can usually tell what
what type they are, can't you?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
You know that is true? That is true. Now, that's
the question. They weren't singing yet over at your mom's
house where they.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Were singing at any of the stops yesterday. But then
somebody said in Lovelin there was a pocket where they
were starting to make noises. So but no, there was
no noise at all, but they were there, and I think,
you know what, and we got to take a break.
But every stop that I had, and I just happened
to look and just make see if this cicadas were out.
I saw and maybe it's just a coincidence, four or
(34:07):
five that were on the side of the tree that
were deformed. And I saw that at about every stop
that I could find a few that were deformed, which
I thought was kind of And we found one at
the nursery yesterday, one on the side of a tree
and it was on a buck I saw. I smashed it, no,
(34:28):
but he was deformed. And then and I started looking
as I stopped, and I could find him in all
the stops. Anyway, quick break, we come back with talk
more with Buggy Joe Box. Don't forget the website byg
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So that's so there's going to be a report maybe today,
maybe Monday, about yellow poplars that were really seeing some
strange things happening, a strange things happening, not in our
region so much. Ron, Although I hate to tell you this,
I'm going to say this, and hopefully nobody's listening when
I said, I kind of wish it was so I
(37:24):
could get pictures. But but this is happening more in
the eastern parta state and in West Virginia and in
frankly quite a wide area where it looks like the
trees are not leafing out, and in some cases they
may not be leafing out because the region that I'm
talking about a little a little quiz on what do
(37:46):
we remember what happened in the eastern Ohio. We had
some of it in West Virginia that we were just
talking about almost every week late last season, early in
the season. It just built through the season. What Joe, giant,
A giant drought. I mean, this was a this was
(38:09):
a record breaking drought. I know, Ron Roethlis was really
paying close attention to it because we got to we
we got to levels of drought that are very rare.
I mean it was almost spontaneous combustion. Just a joke.
I'm sorry, that was so tulip trees, yellow poplar, uh,
(38:32):
you know, the same tree, tulip poplar. All three names
applied to the same tree. Uh. As you know they're
they're not They're very sensitive to drought, and they're very
sensitive to high temperatures and low soil moisture. They just start,
you know, well, you start turning yellow and dropping. You
and I've talked about this for years. They're always the
(38:53):
first indicator when you're really dry, right, ye, So so
last year, you know, this is an area where we
have a lot of tulip poplars and uh. And also
at the same time there is a weavil and it's
called the yellow I'm sorry, I should let you guess.
(39:14):
Now there's a name given to them. And I you
know this we talked about before. You'll hear the flying ticks,
and both you and I have talked about No, no, they
don't look like ticks. They really don't came from They
don't at all they're not even the same size. They're
you know, they're they're kind of I mean, they're round
it they're not flat and a rate. So uh so,
(39:37):
in the same area last year, we're very high numbers
of yellow poplar weavil. Now they overwinter as adults, so
right now, and I got some pictures yesterday showing that
a severe damage on the newly expanding I mean, these
leaves weren't even able to expand before these weavils were
(40:01):
really nailing them. So so the trees were not dead,
the leaves just were getting they were getting hammered before
they could even fully expand. Now does that mean the
trees in trouble? Well, if that, if that continues, obviously
it would be. But this is an overwintering stage where
the adults come out, they feed pretty heavily, they lay
(40:24):
their eggs, and then their larvae. The immatures develop as
leaf miners. And this is where it gets to be
a little bit complicated. You can find the feeding damage
looks a little half moonish, you know, sort of like
sort of like holes that are that are half round
what's the word I'm looking for. They're kind of between
(40:45):
crescent shape and half round, very small. I like the
half molow half. I just yeah, I bet you'll also
see the same damage on magnolia and on sassafras, which
is kind of interesting. And you will find the leaf
mines on magnolia and sassafras as well as tulip trees,
(41:09):
so three hosts. Well, the adults that then emerged from
those leaf mines later in the summer typically are higher
in number, and so we see a second round of
damage now in between hopefully the tree has a chance
to refoliate, and we see that a lot. You and
I have talked about this on the show, that if
(41:31):
we get early season of foliation, if the tree has
enough energy stored from last year, they can produce another
flush of leaves. However, our concern is what happened last year.
Rout ut. Yeah, so're we're pretty concerned about this, and
(41:52):
then you get maybe another most of double triple Wait me,
I guess I should say, because we're also picking up
on a soft scale, uh that that occurs on tulip
trees primarily, and uh and also on a little bit
on magnolia.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
So it's a soft scale on yellow poplars and gosh,
I can't think of the common name ron. You may
have to help me out there a soft scale on you.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It's not the buckeye scale, is it? And it just
makes something up? Now go ahead, okay, yellow poplar scale what? Yes,
I tell you we were really creative in the entomology world.
But any rate, So that is a sucking insect that
pulls out sap, right, pulls out sap from the from
(42:47):
the flow. So we see we also see some evidence
of that scale cranking back up again. We see in
the pictures you could see the overwintering stage of that scale.
So the bottom line is we do need to keep
a close watch on what's happening with hula poplars. That's
going to be a big old posts And I hate
(43:09):
to use that title what's going on with tool trees,
but that's how I'm going to title it, because it's
something we need to.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Keep an eye on real quick. On the magnolia's, you know,
I think I've seen that mostly on Sweet Bay. Yeah,
you get on other ones as well.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It does. It does both native and non native magnolias.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Interesting. Buggy Joe bog is always a pleasure. I appreciate
all the posts and again. The website is bygl dot
OSU dot e du have a great weekend.
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You have a great weekend, Ron, take care right take here.
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Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three
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Our toll free number eight hundred at eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy, talking about yarding on this post
Mother's Day weekend. Hopefully you got out last week and
visited your locally owned independent garden centers and kept your
patients because I know they were all packed. I know
they've all been very busy this week and will be
busy this weekend as well, kind of the busiest time
(00:58):
of the entire season. So again and be patient, and
like I said earlier in the show, remember they will
continue to restock as best they can throughout the rest
of the month and into June. With the herbs, the vegetables,
things like that. Trees and shrubs, perennials will continue to
stay stocked with no problem. But the other ones, of course,
eventually will start to dwindle down. But the goal is
(01:20):
to have those for you growing succession plantings right on
through the season. And of course Mother's Day weekend being
later this year and Memorial Weekend being earlier this year
kind of compacted everything down into a two or three
week period here, so remember you got plenty of time
to plant. July fourth is the last that I plant
vegetables if I find something really different that I want
(01:41):
to try out there. But you know, May and June
great months for planting the vegetables, so you got time.
We weren't even into June yet. So if you can
find it, you know, and a lot of things can
be grown from seed. It's amazing how many folks don't
realize what can be direct sowed into the garden and
grown from seed. But you know, again, find out more
(02:03):
about that. Visit your local independent garden centers and they'll
tell you all about it. So be sure and check
that out. But anyway, they are staying stocked and ready
to go, So get out and give them a visit
and see see what they got out there for you.
By the way, talking about yardening, uh, don't forget our website,
it's Ron Wilson online dot com. For those of you
in Ohio the hot Department of Agriculture. We're seeing the
(02:25):
spotted lantern fly you. As matter of fact, we heard
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Uh in New York getting worse and worse. Learn more
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So you might want to get on there and check
learn more about it, what to look for if you
find it. They'd like to know where you're seeing it. UH,
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so we can find out about it easily controlled. You
get on it early and it's easily controlled. It's like
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is huge but colorful, probably of the most beautiful insects
that that's out there in all of it's different phases.
But but learn more about it again at run Wilson
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Universe Extension UH byg ol dot OSU dot ed you. Also,
Rita's recipe is talking about soft and hard herbs, and
a recipe this week is barnar sauce. It's a it's
a great one as well, So check that out now.
As I'm driving around, folks always say every nine and
can you kind of mention what you're seeing out there
this week? Because I see things in flower and I'm
(03:29):
not sure what they are. I'm gonna tell you something
looking around right now. And you think we've already kind
of gotten through the spring season with a lot of
flowering shrubs as flowers flowing. But as you look out
there right now, there are several trees that are in
flower that are just putting on a spectacular show. As
a matter of fact, my pick of the week this
(03:51):
week happens to be Japanese tree lilac. And at this
time of the year, I always get the question that says,
what's that medium the small side tree I'm seeing right now,
it's in flower, white, fragrant flower kind of looks like
a lilac. The bark kind of looks like lilac. The
leaves look like a lilac. Any idea what they are
because I see them along the street trees and I
(04:12):
see them spotted here in the landscapes. Smells like a lilac. Well,
guess what it is? A lilac. It's a tree lilacs,
commonly known as Japanese tree like lilac. Although we also
see out there Chinese tree lilacs, the peking lilac, which
is out there too, a little bit different, and I'll
(04:33):
talk more about that as we go down through the
show here, but that one is available for you as well.
But that's what we're seeing most of right now in
our areas as far as the flower putting on a
tremendous show at a nice medium sized tree twenty five
feet high, fifteen feet wide, kind of an up right
rounded head. Great for patio trees, small landscapes, street trees,
(04:55):
et cetera, et cetera. But you can check that out
on our website, Ron Wilson online dot com. And that
would be our plant pick of the week, which is
a Japanese tree lilac. Also seeing black locus starting to
come into flower. Chinese dogwoods now starting to come into flower,
red buck eyes putting on a great show. Fort McNair
horse chestnut, which is kind of a pinky a little
(05:16):
more of a pinkish color now putting on a great
show as well. And one last before we go back
to the guarding phone lines. A lot of emails this
week folks seeing Tricolor Beach because when that new growth
comes out on Tricolor Beach, that pink is absolutely outstanding.
Now it kind of fades away as we go into
the season, but right now it puts on a show.
(05:39):
A little bit of a finicky type of a tree
to plant. It likes morning sun and maybe protected a
little bit from the heat. Of the afternoon. But Tricolor Beach. Wow.
And they're not cheap, they're expensive. But what a great
folio show that's putting on in our area. Right now
to Fort Thomas, Kentucky. We go, Jerry, good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Good morning, Ron.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yes, you had a guest on a couple of weeks
ago who wrote a book about house plant propagation. Can
you give me the author's name and the book name?
It was like the Complete Guide the houseplant propagation.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, and I don't. I don't have her name written down.
I can you email me or I'll mention it next week.
I usually have that written down somewhere and I'm looking
real quick. I don't. I don't remember her name. It's
a it's a complete guide the houseplant propagation. If you
can you email me, I'll get it right back to you. Uh,
(06:35):
and I'll like today or tomorrow. Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia
dot com. Okay, and I'll get it right back. It's
a it's a great book. As a matter of fact,
my wife took it away from me after I had
her on the show, the Lady on the show, because
she's tried to do that now.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
iHeartMedia.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia dot com. Anything else a day,
all right, appreciate it. I should have that written down
here somewhere, but I don't see it on my notes.
And she'll shoot me for not remembering her name. But anyway,
it's a great book. But my wife took it and
now she's looking to propagate some of her house plants.
(07:18):
It's a great reference, and I will I'll even mention
it next week on the show talking about yardening, and
of course talking about what I'm seeing flower out there
right now, and again it's the plan of the week,
would be the Japanese tree lilac, Chinese tree lilac, also
in flower right now. It's called the p Peking. It's
not quite as hardy for our area than the Japanese
(07:41):
tree lilac. It has a smaller flower, smaller leaf. The
bark is kind of looks like a cherriot is multicolor,
kind of smooth, but not quite as hardy. Sometimes winter
cold winters get a little bit of nip back on those,
but pretty close. But you'll see both of those being
sold out there as well, tricolor beach black locusts and
flower Chinese dogwood, and you'll see Chinese. What's interesting about
(08:05):
Chinese dogwood cusa is the fact that it will grow
and it loves the sun, so unlike its cousin the
corners Florida, which likes it's an understory tree, likes the
morning sun, little protection from the afternoon sun. Although many
of the newer varieties, like spring Grow, which is outstanding,
does a pretty good job in full sun as well,
(08:26):
but this one does. It likes the sun. Leaves are
more pointed, a little bit smaller, the flowers a little smaller,
more pointed. But it's called cusa China area cornice cusa
or and you'll in Chinese dogwood you'll absolutely love. And
there's many of them on the market as well. And
of course I love the red buckeye as well. Great color,
(08:48):
you can't beat that either. But again, looking around our area,
lots of trees showing good color, which is again you
don't think about it very much this time of the year,
but a lot of them are restoring, are showing good color,
and the beekeepers are loving it when black locusts are
in flower, because the that makes a sweet, very tasty
honey as well. All right, quick break, we come back
(09:10):
time for a little home improvement from mister Gary Sullivan.
And then at the bottom of the hour, Buggy Joe Boggs.
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Mister Wilson, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Great? Did you survive that big front that came through
last night?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah? That was exciting.
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It's a quick and quick aut but man did it
come down?
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Yeah?
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It poured little hal all works, But you.
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Know what, we thought, it was a little hailed and
we looked out and I couldn't really tell because it
was coming down so hard.
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It was hell only lesson at our place for a
few minutes.
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Yeah, maybe two.
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I mean, there was a bunch of and it wasn't huge,
but you're right, it was. It was really coming down.
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We have the wider gutters and it was coming over
the top of the gutter.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know, that's a good subject today. And I've been
looking at mine and really watching them over the last
four or five years, and they're five inch gutters and
they're not big enough. Got a steep roof and they're
just really not big enough. Yeah, so now what, uh,
probably go to a six inch?
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How big do they come?
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Well, I know they go up to six inch. I
don't know if they go beyond that. I'm sure they
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take care of it. But when I had the house built,
you know, long twenty five years ago, we put in
five and that was a step up from the standard four.
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So do people still use the four anymore?
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It's not too much. I was going to say, yeah,
it's almost all five inches.
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A small like on a shed or a small barn
or garage on one thing.
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Yeah, yeah, but if you got a steep roof and
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at one time it was calibrated like four inches an hour,
and you know, five inch gutter on a steep.
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Roof, forget about it. Forget about it if I get
up at it. So I guess there are limitations as
far as whiter than that is properly attaching them to
the building.
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Yeah, they got you know, it used to be the
old nails and farrels, but you know, anymore, they're really
brackets that support underneath the gutters and different things, which
is much better, especially for areas that are in you know,
winter conditions with snow and ice and snow dam or
ice dams. So you know, there's better support mechanisms than
(15:33):
used to be, and not all those farrels and nails wherever. Really,
you know, driven into the trust, they were just going
through a one inch facia board, right, and you know,
your gutters are dipping and they're leaking behind, and the
facia board isn't painted behind the gutter, and then the
facia rots and then you got raccoons in your attic.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Or squirrels or squirrels or whatever or whatever wants to
come through that hole.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
That's right, that's right. They will make a hole in it,
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I remember visiting in a state I think it was
the Fleischman Estate here in Cincinnati, and they had the
copper Oh yeah, utters and all. I mean, of course
it's a huge estate. Copper gutters and down spouts. Wow. Yeah,
it was beautiful. And I looked at that. I just
kept thinking the craftmanship to work to put those things
(16:21):
up there.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
For sure, Oh my gosh, for sure. I mean in
all soldered and stuff. Yes, jeez, they're beautiful. When they age.
You get that greenish tin on.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The Yes, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Yeah, it is beautiful. I wouldn't want to pay that
bill anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
No saying we were curious to ask what the Sullivans
have their thermostats said on in the summertime, Well, it's
either saying seventy eight.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah again, Well, I think it's really all about the
humidity though, ron I think I really do. Yesterday it
got of it didn't get We actually closed the windows
intern the air on about four o'clock till the storm
went through. As the first time we turned it on
and it was because it humidity was getting a little
(17:07):
higher in the house. This again just a little uncomfortable,
not bad. And we weren't home all day and we
just I said, I'm just gonna knock this humidity out
of here. And it was fine within a couple hours.
And we had said seventy six. But when you get
into the middle of the summer, you know, when you
got the uminity and the heat and it's really beaten
down on the house. Don't have a lot of landscaping
(17:29):
absorbing it or something, you know. I mean, it can vary,
but to answer your question, usually about seventy five seventy six,
but it is truly all about controlling the humidity. And
used to tip a long time ago that when you're
heavier air conditioner on, don't put the fan on on
because as it's pulling the moisture out of the air
(17:50):
and the coils start getting wet. If your fans on
on so it's running all the time, it's just blowing
all that moisture back into the house. So if you
turn the fan on auto, it only turns on when
it's pulling the moisture ug It gives a little time
for those coils to dry a little bit, and it's
really helped us control the humidity level in the house,
(18:12):
which has enabled us to move the thermostat to a
higher number.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
We you know, it hasn't been hot in our area,
but as soon as we reached that upper seventies, I
think we had eighty once, the humidity came along with it,
and it felt like it was ninety five because you're
not used to, you know, that humidity.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, well, here's something which is kind of interesting when
when you know, when you hit that day that gets
around eighty okay, you said upper seventy, say eighty eighty
two degrees, If you open up your windows, that eighty
two degrees comes right into the house, right, But I
feel a well inslaved house and well inslaved windows, and
(18:48):
you lead those windows down when it's eighty degrees, it
could be seventy two degrees inside the house. We started
noticing that when it was like seventy six outside, but
it was like seventy indoors, and that that and everything
was shut off, and that that thermostat never.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Moved a degree.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
And then if you open up all the windows at
four in the afternoon all that he comes rushing, And
so what were doing is we've been opening the windows
in the morning and then around one o'clock we closed
the windows and in the evening we open them up again.
Because you got those good insulated windows. You got insulation
in your house. It's really really helped control the electric bill.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Interesting. You know, Dan had mentioned earlier that you liked
it warmer because as you get older, folks like it.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That's right, that's like that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Come on, now, don't get on him about that. But
you get control what you can and can't do.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
It's the shawl always helps them.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Hey, I'll tell you what we had throws on the
back of all there he goes, he cut me off,
So there you go. Yeah, so what are we gonna
talk about today?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Well, I I think we're going to talk a lot
about just kind of assessing the house. And really it's
been a weird spring and we've got a lot of rain.
I think it's kind of hard to get off the
schneid this year, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like I might off the schneid.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, you know, get going.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I guess we can. We just did.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
But I think we're going to do a checklist on
maintenance on the home and start prioritizing what needs to
be done next. And again, if you have contractors you're
thinking to do a project for you, you better get out there,
get that estimate, get that book.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Now, Gary says, get off the schneid. You got it, brother,
Have a great show. Gary Sullivan online at dot com.
Take care of my friend. All right, quick break we
come back as just coming up next by you, Joe
Bogs Here in the garden with Ron Wilson. How is
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Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
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Online dot com Facebook page. In the Garden with Ron Wilson.
It is time now for the Buggy Joe Boggs Report.
Mister Joe Bobbs, this is a professor commercial jeducator. Then
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d U, Ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical and ready
to get off the schneid, Buggy Joe bug.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Man, I'm getting off the schneid and starting and going
back to posting some big alerts.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Have you have you heard that? I guess you've heard
that expression before. No, get off the schneid.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I never I was listening to I mean I was
off this.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
No, I never heard that's legit when I went online.
And it's like it's a saying for all kinds of things,
get off the schneid. That Gary Salmon, he is so
full of information. I'm full of uh information.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's a it's incredible and just what's gonna you know,
what's gonna? What are we gonna learn next? In fact,
we probably should just get right back and and listen
to his wisdom some more.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Talk more so, did you get that front at your
home last night?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know that was remarkable? Yes? And no, it kind
of split. I mean that's a that's a very strange thing,
that that that that we sometimes see. And I think
you and I even talked about this you know, you
and Gary and I sort of we're sort of lined
up in a way east west right, kind of.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
Sort of the farthest west from you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Danny's in the same line.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Oh was that right? So you probably got a pretty
It probably called you to get off your schneide to
see what was going on, right, Yeah, yes, it did.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, dfid.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
But any rate it? Uh well, it's interesting now I
claim that, and I think I'm right about this.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Uh it.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know, these storms have been have been splitting. You know.
I put an apple on this. It's got kind of
a shield in the app and I think it's shielding us,
you know, from this happening.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Huh, that's that's crazy. I was in touch with yesterday,
thank you, Joe Joe Strecker who lives down this would
be south of our pattern, and he was getting a
little bit of lightning and thunder, but they got nothing
but a little drizzle.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know, it's interesting. I thought that that we heard
earlier in the day things are gonna be a little
rougher further south. Right. Yeah, well you know when it started. Yeah,
and but you know, we got things first, and so
I truthfully wasn't paying attention at all. I was. I
was actually looking up some information on yellow poplar, which
(26:12):
we'll get to in a minute. When when you know,
just because of curiosity and also because I'm going to
be post, I'm going to go back to posting big
old alerts. I've kind of been off that cycle because
of trying to get fact sheets done. I know that
sounds kind of stranger, and the listeners, well, what the
heck's he talking about? Well, you always talk about, you know,
(26:33):
the big old buckeye yard and garden line, and that's
where we post, you know, things that are happening. We
try to hopefully have things that are happening right now.
You know that what we're observing. But then universities also
have these publications called fact sheets, and they're intended to
(26:54):
be I hate to use the word static, but that's true.
They're updated every so often, but they provide a lot
of background information and ron you know this, a lot
of my legal alerts I get to be rather long.
When we talk about the life cycle of things. We
talk about some general things because I have to put
that in there. But the idea over the last little
(27:16):
bit has been to really work hard on getting the
fact sheets posted so I can refer to them. And
for example, you and I talked about the cicada fact
sheet that was updated. There had been one published in
twenty seventeen, and so now as the brood is emerging
in southern Ohio, people can then reference that. And then
(27:39):
all I need to do is just reference the fact
sheet when I do reports Friday or yesterday, yesterday? What
day is this? Yesterday? I submitted a fact sheet on
soil testing. It's an update, and I think you'll find
it's a much more useful update because we do some
diagnostics in there too. And there again, instead of you
(28:03):
in a big old alert talking about, you know, symptoms
produced by a nutrient deficiency, Uh, we can talk about that,
but then when we talk about getting the soil tested,
I don't need to repeat everything. So that's that's kind
of you know where things have been recently. The reason
why I bring that up. But I've actually gotten some emails.
(28:25):
You know, have you stopped posting big old alerts and
new and you announce it? And uh, I just thought
i'd better lead off with no the alert. My alerts
aren't dead. Other people are posting alerts, and that's something
to remember because there are a group of us that
are involved in this, a whole team, and so it's
(28:47):
just just taking a little pause while I get some
background stuff posted. Does that make good sense?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Along with the ever lovely Amy Stone.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yes, Amy Stone, and and Pam Bennett and the lovely
Pam Bennett and then Eric Draper, which we're not sure
about that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I wouldn't say ever love it either way. I was
out and about yesterday and uh, cicadas are out and
about and yeah, saw them blue Ash, saw them in
Simms Township, saw them in Claremont County, believe it or not,
Batavia and yep, yeah, and really it's them there. My
(29:27):
mom's got them big time in Simms Township and also
saw them Inmorrow.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
So now you can you can lie to me every
place you stopped. I reported it a photo and reported
it on Cicada Safari. Right.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, but I asked, I asked the homeowners to do that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well, And that is true. That's very and that's a
really good idea. You know. I'm I've been I have
it downloaded now. I haven't been able to drive around
quite as much as past week. I was up and
we had a team study tour up in northeast Ohio
Lake County, the nursery production area that we tend to
(30:11):
always historically think about for Ohio, right, I mean that's
you know, when I came, that's the end because of
sandy soil, and I have to ron. I became soil
envious up there. I mean, you just you look and
you think, oh my gosh, if we had that kind
of drainage and if we had the you know, the
higher acidity in the soil, we well, I'm backing away
(30:35):
because I do love where we live, but it is,
it is fantastic soil. So last week I was up
there this past week just visiting around, seeing things, learning things,
and so I've kind of got off the mark with
the cicadas. But the big point is as we drive around,
as I'm going to be driving around this coming week,
is just stopping and taking a picture using the Cicada
(30:59):
Safaria app and then it just it just uploads with
your location. And I mentioned this before because this isn't
just happening in southern Ohio. This brood goes really far south.
And you know, it's funny when I first even though
we're just at the northern edge of it. I mentioned
(31:21):
this last week. It's actually one of the larger broods. However,
we're not ever sure for you know, exactly where the
edges are on these broods, because you know, we can
only get information every seventeen years. So Cicada Safari was produced,
oh my goodness, well some time ago by doctor Jen
(31:45):
Kritsky and Mount Saint Joe. He's retired, but not really retired, right,
he still and he literally wrote the book on cicadas.
He actually wrote a book about this brood and other cicadas.
But he and the IT folks at Mount Saint Joseph
College developed this app easy to use so that when
(32:06):
we get these opportunities to find out exactly where they are.
For example, you're mentioning Sims Township, you're mentioning where all
blue ash. Well, if you go back and look at
the historical records, there were reports in that general vicinity.
But then how far north you see where I'm heading,
How far north or how far west? Because now you're
(32:29):
getting very close to what has historically been the edge,
and you know, I'm hearing reports and trying to get
people to report it to, you know, on Circasa Safari
of it being a little further west than what I
remembered in two thousand and eight when this brewd last
emerged and emerge. And that's that's the key. I just said,
(32:51):
exactly what I just said, exactly what the challenge is.
I kind of remember them being well, you know, I
can't remember clearly things that happened last week, right correct,
or maybe earlier in the day. So so that's where
things that's where we really do need listeners help. We
(33:13):
really do need your help and taking the time to
report these it's easy to do. It's an easy app
to use, and that could be hugely helpful for the future.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What is that noise?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I'm here and we'd either hum.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You can usually tell me. You can usually tell what
what type they are, can't you?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
You know that is true? That is true. Now, that's
the question. They weren't singing yet over at your mom's
house where they.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Were singing at any of the stops yesterday. But then
somebody said in Lovelin there was a pocket where they
were starting to make noises. So but no, there was
no noise at all, but they were there, and I think,
you know what, and we got to take a break.
But every stop that I had, and I just happened
to look and just make see if this cicadas were out.
I saw and maybe it's just a coincidence, four or
(34:07):
five that were on the side of the tree that
were deformed. And I saw that at about every stop
that I could find a few that were deformed, which
I thought was kind of And we found one at
the nursery yesterday, one on the side of a tree
and it was on a buck I saw. I smashed it, no,
(34:28):
but he was deformed. And then and I started looking
as I stopped, and I could find him in all
the stops. Anyway, quick break, we come back with talk
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Welcome back time for Part two of the Buggy Joe Boggs.
You pore, mister Joe Boggs, I wish you extension website
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be U.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So that's so there's going to be a report maybe today,
maybe Monday, about yellow poplars that were really seeing some
strange things happening, a strange things happening, not in our
region so much. Ron, Although I hate to tell you this,
I'm going to say this, and hopefully nobody's listening when
I said, I kind of wish it was so I
(37:24):
could get pictures. But but this is happening more in
the eastern parta state and in West Virginia and in
frankly quite a wide area where it looks like the
trees are not leafing out, and in some cases they
may not be leafing out because the region that I'm
talking about a little a little quiz on what do
(37:46):
we remember what happened in the eastern Ohio. We had
some of it in West Virginia that we were just
talking about almost every week late last season, early in
the season. It just built through the season. What Joe, giant,
A giant drought. I mean, this was a this was
(38:09):
a record breaking drought. I know, Ron Roethlis was really
paying close attention to it because we got to we
we got to levels of drought that are very rare.
I mean it was almost spontaneous combustion. Just a joke.
I'm sorry, that was so tulip trees, yellow poplar, uh,
(38:32):
you know, the same tree, tulip poplar. All three names
applied to the same tree. Uh. As you know they're
they're not They're very sensitive to drought, and they're very
sensitive to high temperatures and low soil moisture. They just start,
you know, well, you start turning yellow and dropping. You
and I've talked about this for years. They're always the
(38:53):
first indicator when you're really dry, right, ye, So so
last year, you know, this is an area where we
have a lot of tulip poplars and uh. And also
at the same time there is a weavil and it's
called the yellow I'm sorry, I should let you guess.
(39:14):
Now there's a name given to them. And I you
know this we talked about before. You'll hear the flying ticks,
and both you and I have talked about No, no, they
don't look like ticks. They really don't came from They
don't at all they're not even the same size. They're
you know, they're they're kind of I mean, they're round
it they're not flat and a rate. So uh so,
(39:37):
in the same area last year, we're very high numbers
of yellow poplar weavil. Now they overwinter as adults, so
right now, and I got some pictures yesterday showing that
a severe damage on the newly expanding I mean, these
leaves weren't even able to expand before these weavils were
(40:01):
really nailing them. So so the trees were not dead,
the leaves just were getting they were getting hammered before
they could even fully expand. Now does that mean the
trees in trouble? Well, if that, if that continues, obviously
it would be. But this is an overwintering stage where
the adults come out, they feed pretty heavily, they lay
(40:24):
their eggs, and then their larvae. The immatures develop as
leaf miners. And this is where it gets to be
a little bit complicated. You can find the feeding damage
looks a little half moonish, you know, sort of like
sort of like holes that are that are half round
what's the word I'm looking for. They're kind of between
(40:45):
crescent shape and half round, very small. I like the
half molow half. I just yeah, I bet you'll also
see the same damage on magnolia and on sassafras, which
is kind of interesting. And you will find the leaf
mines on magnolia and sassafras as well as tulip trees,
(41:09):
so three hosts. Well, the adults that then emerged from
those leaf mines later in the summer typically are higher
in number, and so we see a second round of
damage now in between hopefully the tree has a chance
to refoliate, and we see that a lot. You and
I have talked about this on the show, that if
(41:31):
we get early season of foliation, if the tree has
enough energy stored from last year, they can produce another
flush of leaves. However, our concern is what happened last year.
Rout ut. Yeah, so're we're pretty concerned about this, and
(41:52):
then you get maybe another most of double triple Wait me,
I guess I should say, because we're also picking up
on a soft scale, uh that that occurs on tulip
trees primarily, and uh and also on a little bit
on magnolia.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
So it's a soft scale on yellow poplars and gosh,
I can't think of the common name ron. You may
have to help me out there a soft scale on you.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It's not the buckeye scale, is it? And it just
makes something up? Now go ahead, okay, yellow poplar scale what? Yes,
I tell you we were really creative in the entomology world.
But any rate, So that is a sucking insect that
pulls out sap, right, pulls out sap from the from
(42:47):
the flow. So we see we also see some evidence
of that scale cranking back up again. We see in
the pictures you could see the overwintering stage of that scale.
So the bottom line is we do need to keep
a close watch on what's happening with hula poplars. That's
going to be a big old posts And I hate
(43:09):
to use that title what's going on with tool trees,
but that's how I'm going to title it, because it's
something we need to.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Keep an eye on real quick. On the magnolia's, you know,
I think I've seen that mostly on Sweet Bay. Yeah,
you get on other ones as well.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It does. It does both native and non native magnolias.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Interesting. Buggy Joe bog is always a pleasure. I appreciate
all the posts and again. The website is bygl dot
OSU dot e du have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
You have a great weekend, Ron, take care right take here.
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Thanks all of our colors, thanks our sponsors, Thanks of
course to Danny Gleeson, our producer, because without Danny Gleeson,
none of this stuff would happen. So Danny, thank you
so much for all that you do to make it
all work. Now do yourself a favor. Still plenty of
time to get out there and plant a tree or
two or three. Key planting those native plants, native selections,
native of ours, be ee friendly, Paul nat or polite,
(44:00):
pamper your worms, get the kids and dogs involved with gardening,
and by all means make it the best weekend of
your life.
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See ya, green tom or not.
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