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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our total free number on this Memorial weekend eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Good morning. I
am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy. We are talking
about yard ning. Get a few things planted over the
last couple of weeks between Mother's Day and this weekend.
Hopefully you did. And I've been out there looking at
the garden centers, locally and locally owned independent garden centers,
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and still staying pretty well stocked. And that's that's a
good thing. Every year, get better and better at that
all the time trying to carry those annual vegetable herbs, perennials,
all that selection right on through the month of May
and into June as well, because still got plenty of
time to plant. As a matter of fact, talk to
the gentleman this morning from North Carolina that already, you know,
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obviously got an earlier start on tomato planting. I already
has tomatoes and all but gotten into some leaf diseases already,
and you know a lot of times there are some
of them that won't affect your tomato. They'll continue to
ripen obviously, as you lose leaves, not a good thing,
but they will continue to ripen. But still plenty of
time to pull those out and replant, so you know,
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and I'll in our area and we're Zone six, I'll plant,
you know, vegetables, the tomatoes included, right up until about
the fourth of July. If I find something I haven't
planned it before somewhere and I want to give it
a try, that's about as late as I'll go. But
you know, that's that's two months away, month and a
half away, so we still have six weeks easily for planting. Obviously,
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selections go down as we get toward the end of
this month and into June, but we'll keep some of
the basics going for you since you always have tomatoes
or peppers or something, or petunias or geraniums or whatever
it may be for you to choose from. May not
be exactly what you were looking for, but still be
available for you out there, So keep that in mind.
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And you know, I think back when I was a
kid man, I'll tell you what the Memorial Weekend Decoration day,
of course it was called back then, but Memorial Weekend
that's you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, usually a three or
four day weekend. My parents, that's when they were planting,
finishing up with the tomatoes and peppers and those tender
a annuals vegetables, and of course planting a few geraniums.
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There are a few petunias here and there, marigolds a lot,
some from seed, some from the plants. Still remember going
to a small greenhouse from Greensburg, Indiana and my dad
getting tomatoes from there to plant, and that's when they
sold them, and they had them and raised beds. These
beds are about six inches deep peat moss in there,
and then they have all the tomato plants growing in
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a row. And then you how many you want, and
they have about three selections, probably big boys, Rutgers and
marglobes or something like that, and you know six of this,
six of that whatever, and they would go in and
take seven out, usually give you an extra one. Pull
seven out, bear root, a little bit of peat moss
around them, wrap them in moist newspaper, and then give
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them to you that way, and you took them home
right away, got them planted that day and watered in
and shade and went from there. And I remember that
day was the first day I went with my dad,
and that I ever was given a flower to plant
was an agoratum. We'll always remember that they gave kids
a little flour to get them started, obviously, which I
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guess that's why it's stuck with me about getting kids
involved with gardening. But gave me an agoratum. That was
the first flower that I ever planted. But I could
still see that clear as a bell. Such great experiences
going to that greenhouse with my dad again it but
but again it was Memorial weekend. That's when everything that
was tender got planned because you didn't want to take
a chance about the frost and things like that. All right,
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enough reminiscing eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five to Tennessee. We go, Karen, good.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
First of all, I'm going to tell you that I
hear your radio station in the background plus.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You okay, all right, Danie'll try to fix that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Okay, all right, I have a huge problem. Oh it
started out with just a few and now it's it's
basically taking over my whole yard. And of what I understand,
you can't eradicate it. It's h O U T tu
y and I and I've also got some of the chameleons.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well that's that's that is what that is who tenia
and sometimes called chameleon play.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, it's everywhere. I just jumped from the front yard
to my backyard. It's been with day lily. I'm just sick.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm sick.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I've tried pulling it when it first started.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That just makes it mad.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Oh, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That just makes it mad, makes it come back too fold. Karen,
I made the mistake, I don't know, fifteen years ago
of planting Hutenia in our backyard in a raised planter bed.
And I had some marborviety for a fencing screen, and
I was going to do the groundcover with Hutenya beautiful foliage,
great little flower, smell a little aroma to it as well,
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and it was beautiful and it filled that in and
then the next year it was coming through the sides
of it, and the following year it was in the
beds next to it, and then it was in the
front yard and it was like, you've got to be
And then I realized that this thing should have been
put on the invasive list, which it is now in
a lot of states. But it's a great yeah. And
that's the problem is if a if a bird or
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a critter picks up a piece of it and drops it,
that's all it takes. And it spreads both from seed
and by runners under the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's what makes it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's what makes it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Here's what it took me. I swear I say five years,
but it took me probably three good solid years. I
physically removed as much as I could the first year.
I mean, I dug out two inches of soil. I
took everything I could to physically get rid of it.
And then anytime I saw it pop up, I hit
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it with a non vegetation killer like round up kills
all something like that. And when they're young and tender
like that, it does knock come back, and it does
take out some of the root. But I kept nuke
in it and nuke in it, and nuke in it,
and nuke and it, and I finally one year realized
it wasn't coming up in my yard anymore. But it
took me at least three years of really physically getting
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rid of it initially, and then just spot treating, spot treating,
spot treating, until finally I got rid of that darn stuff.
It's pretty cool on the edge of a pond. It'll
creep out into a pond. It's really neat there. But otherwise,
uh yeah, it's it's a it's bad news. But all
I can tell you is that the non selective vegetation
killers will go after it. It'll take out some of it,
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but it won't take out all the roots. So you've
got to stick. It's like doing thistle. You just keep after,
keep after, keep after, till you finally starve it to death.
And that may be a couple three years down the road.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Unfortunately, fortunately I don't my eighty one.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, you're breaking up with me there. But if you
can you know that killer, what can you do to what?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
What non would you say for a killer? Non vegetate?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
A non selective vegetation killers. So if you think about
round up, the old roundup, you think about kills. All
these these are vegetation killers that no matter what you
spray it on, it takes them out, and it takes
them out. It's the systemic. It goes through the top
and into the roots. But the roots are so extensive,
just like a thistle, that it takes multiple applications in
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a couple of years to eventually starve it all out.
But the goal is to get rid of as much
of as you can at the beginning, and then don't
let it get another foothold. So anytime you recognize that
that's what that leaf is, you take it. You spray
it right away, nuked, nuked, and you do that two
or three years in a row, and eventually you finally
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start to get it under control. But don't ever let
it progress more than that little small leaf, and go
after it at that point and just keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We'll let kill monkey grass down the hill. I've got
not ivy, but it's a green variegated front or plan it'll.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It'll kill, it'll, it'll burn or kill whatever you spray
it on. So if it's if that, if that uh,
whutenia is growing amongst other plants, you either have to
protect the other plants. Sometimes what's good is I'll take
a one gallon milk jug and take to cut the
bottom out of it, and then slip the milk jug
over top of the houtenia, spray down through the lid,
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let everything settle down on top of the hutenia. Then
take that off and I don't get any drift on
the surrounding plants.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, pussy grass. I don't care, so oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It'll creep. It'll creep in wherever it can creep in.
Trust me. Uh it's it's nasty stuff. Yeah, good luck
whether that's all I can say. All right, to have
a good weekend, good talking with you. It's called Houtenia
or chameleon plant, and they it's still available but mostly
sold today as a water plant that you would put
on the side of a pond or something like that,
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but it could still Oh you get a couple pieces out,
it drops. It's horrible. It's a cool looking plant, but
it's horrible once it starts to take over. All right,
quick break, we come back, yess who's up mister Gary Solivan.
We'll get a little home improved from him. And at
the bottom of the hour, Buggy Joe Boggs And it's
all happening here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (13:29):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five of this time for a little home
improvement from the Man the mid the legend he is
the most listened to home improvement show host in the
entire Solar system. He's telling you to get off that
schneide and get out and do some home improvement. Ladies
(13:50):
and gentlemen. The One, the Only, the Man, the med
the Legend, Mister Gary.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Sulimon, how's your garden growing, Miss Wilson.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Mister sell them this cool weather?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Alway?
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Has it been cool?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I didn't notice. The garden has kind of been Okay,
it kind of slowed.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Down a bit, kind of took a back seat, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
But you know what hasn't slowed down and it is
eating this up? Is what you're mowing twice a week?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Uh huh. That's my question in today's show.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
How many times are your mowing your lawn each week?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
That would be question number one. Question number two is
gas powered mover or battery powered?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
More? Ah, they're getting pretty good with.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Us, Yeah they are. I'm just curious how al it's
holding up during the springtime?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh with all, I see what you're saying. If you
use one, how's it holding?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How's that working for you? If it lasted for two hours?
Now is it an hour and ten minutes?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Yeah? I'd say most of them. Really, you probably if
you got a couple betters, you can get an hour
on them. Well, of course they vary too. They got
them with tractors in everything else. I'm just curious. I'm
sure a lot of people, you know, as their older
mowers start breaking down, or you get tired of it,
or whatever the case, maybe people start vestling back and
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forth between gas power battery power, and if you've made
that switch, do you like it?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Start vacillating back and forth? Actually, I like one use
those big words like that.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Oh sorry, apologize, I'll look that one up later, going
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Did they even sell the electric lawnmowers with a cord?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
That's a good question. I haven't seen in my battery.
I doubt it. What a dangerous thing we, you know,
back in the hardware days, though, we always sold a
few of those every year.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But you also saw some real you know we did
long long time ago, with a real more when you
were a kid, or do you have a gas guy.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
By the time I was mowngrass, we had a gas power.
But I remember my dad had a real mower that
you know he used.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I don't remember very well. I'm much younger than you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So that's why I figured you would have remembered that.
I don't.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I remember they were certainly used in our neighborhood on
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
How many of those metal vases and wreath hangars did
your hardware?
Speaker 7 (16:19):
So yeah, sold a bunch of shows too. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Now we get the wet and for getting clean off
the limestone and marble tombstone.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Spray the tombstone with a little wet and forget.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
No kid though that that's that's not a joke. It's
amazing how much when I started talking about this stuff
from twenty years ago, it was another product name I
think it was zime Away, and they made a hand
spray one and somebody called me from I think it
was in Hawaii. It was a large, you know, cemetery
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service cemetery and I don't remember which one or I
don't really remember the story, but the story was is
all the tombstones had just become blackish gray, and I
can't remember whether marble or limestone. I just and I
was talking to the owner of ziime Away, and he said, oh,
you just spray that on there, it'll go away. And
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I said that on the air, and I started getting
all kinds of emails, letters, whatever it was back then,
and how well it worked and the wetting Forgets. Got
it ready to use one now and I still get
emails from people that have taken the ready to use
and take it and spray down the headstone and just
how you know, how it just brightens it up.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think when Weddin Forgets first started advertising, that was
one of their sticks, Yeah, was the headstones. Yeah. And
a lot of people that were going in and cleaning
up old cemeteries that have been overgrown and whatever. Right,
we're cleaning out all the weeds and vines and stuff
and then spraying them with this wedding Forget And it
took you know, a couple three.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Weeks, four weeks, Yeah, it takes you know, depending on
how bad the infestation of that funguses and algae, it
can take four to six weeks.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah. And then coming back later and what that thing.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Was, its brand new. It is amazing. Yeah, So yeah,
that's the big thing now, I guess.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Huh getting on cleaning off the headstones.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Yeah, sure, you're getting those older cemeteries. Absolutely. I read
them again.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, I was in the you know where Rose
Hill is in Mason, Ohio, and I was I was
over there, so looking at a couple of trees for
some people that had planned a long time ago. And
you know what, I I don't know why we're getting
onto this subject, but you know what I I'm not
crazy about. Are those new headstones that had the pictures.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Oh yeah, that's I think that's kind of weird, kind
of creepy, isn't I mean know, I you know, it's
just it's different.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
But I didn't realize how many are like that now. Hmm.
I mean, not that I go on cemetery.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
I'm not sure I have an opinion on that, but
I kind of get where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Just it was different, Yeah, seeing somebody's face on there.
But I guess I was surprised how many were like that.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Now now they'll put QR codes on them and you'll
be able to snap your phone and watch old videos.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
What do you think that idea?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm probably already doing that. Yeah, the screen probably comes
on on the tubestone. Yeah that's done.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Maybe. Of course, back in the day with you, you
had to ord pre order because it was done with
a chisel and a hammer.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
You were so mean to me. This guy's clollyon mean
to me. I don't know, see he's got too much
rain in his garden.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
All right, So it's Memorial weekend, three day weekend. Obviously
we're not gonna do anything on Monday because that's not
it's all about take off and remember an honor these
folks that gave their lives. But you're not gonna make
people do anything this weekend, are you. Besides get out
and work in the plant trees and shrubs.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
We're gonna do what we always do. We're gonna talk
about projects and maintenance that needs to be done, and
when you choose to do it, that's up to you. Right, Yes,
that's what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're just gonna have people prepared.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
The question is, is no struggle with this every year?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Maybe you're gonna help me. You're so much smarter than me.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Right, do you say happy Memorial Yeah? I don't either.
I started thinking about this again to day. Maybe the
best way to do is have a blessed Memorial Day.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
What do you think again?
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, that's that's yeah. No, I don'kay.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
If I tried, I tried to bring light to the table,
you know.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
But no, I'm not a happy Memorial Day or a
happy Memorial Day weekend person. Next year.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
We'll do all kind of prep on that, find out
what the proper salutation is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
All right, do that for me. I appreciate it. I'll
get right on it. Have a great Memorial weekend, Thank you, sir.
You do the saying good good talking with you, sir,
and have a great show.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Mister Gary Suliman. Be sure to check out his website,
Gary Sullivan online dot com. Coming up next, Buggy Joe
Boggs Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:59):
Welcome back in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't forget
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in the Garden with Ron Wilson, And as I promise,
it is time for the Buggy Joe Bog departments. So
Joe bobbis just a professor Commercial Order Juture really honest
at University Extension know what issue Department of Entomology. Poster
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you ladies and gentlemen, the one the only mister common
sensical himself, Buggy Joe Bob. You know what a good electrician.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, i'd gary there. I mean, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think you go fix this.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, you know, have you not just found where the
extension court unplugged? Is that somebody tripped over that at
I mean, that's happened before.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I think maybe something that I heard forgot to pay
the bill something I don't know. It was, everything just
shut off.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
These guys are on emergency power there.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, we're on the backup now.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Uh oh, well that's why you called me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
You're on the backup, right, Yeah, that's it, that's it.
They have those two huge diesel generators out back there. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. Yeah, there's those big with
big diesels and then how long they can go and
just yeah, the hospitals when something like this happens, you
hardly even know, right, Yeah, Well.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You wouldn't know there because nothing skips a be because
there's a bad battery backup for all the radio equipment,
so that it just it doesn't skip a b Besides you,
all the rest of the lights go out and you're
in total darkness.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
So yeah, I likes went out for about thirty seconds,
generator kicked in, they came back.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I don't know. I can't hear you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well in that case, Joe, just keep talking, somebody'll hear you.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Can't help myself, you know. Yeah, you're you're muffled, muffled,
Yeah there, you man.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Not.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Things are happening this week, things are underway.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I don't know if you heard the I don't know
if you heard the news. They said that the Indy
five hundred was going on on Sunday from Indianapolis at
the Indie Trace Track. That makes sense, doesn't if the
Indy five Indianapolis, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It does make sense. Yeah, And like hundred, where is
that at? Maybe I don't know. I think it's over
in Daytona. I think it's in dayton Kentucky. Isn't that right?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Four bridges up in Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh me, anyway, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt.
Please step up to the plate, mister Boks.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You are not interrupting at all. We are just we're
just using that term bantering, right, We're just bantering.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Just just curious as a child growing up, and I
was telling us story earlier. It was Memorial weekend that
I accompanied my father to the local greenhouse to pick
up his tomato plants and pepper plants at a few flowers.
Not Mother's Day weekend, not the first weekend, and may
not in Mapril, but it was Memorial weekend, Memorial Saturday
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that we went and got those.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's I'm really glad you said that, because I was
thinking the other day that things seem to be sliding
towards back, towards winter. I'm like you, Ron, I can
tell you know, growing up, you know Mother's Day. Now
this is in West Virginia, so a little further south
but not much. But but Mother's Day, you know, there
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were certain things blooming that we always kind of, you know,
counted on, and there's just certain it was more kind
of a cleanup of the of the yard and everything
before Mother's Day and then and then yeah, Memorial around
Memorial Day was when we did really start planting things.
And so I'm glad you said that because we I
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learned yesterday that you and I are the same age,
and I did not know that. I actually didn't know
that you were you. No, No, I thought you were.
I even told my wife that you were younger than me. Seriously,
I I really did.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Gary's a lot older than both of us. Oh man,
so there you go.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Listen to this. But uh, you know, we've been around
long enough to see some of these changes occurring. But
but I hadn't taken note I planted tomatoes. I was
thinking much earlier. But then then in the past, I've
been doing that for a while. But you're right, Memorial
Day was a you know, plant the garden and watch
(27:50):
the Indy five hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well no, no, we didn't watch. And I grew up
in Greensburg, Indiana. We you listen to it on the
car radio.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well that's what I was laughing about, because.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I I remember they finally started televising that thing. And
I think it was a delay too when they televised it,
if I'm not mistaken, But yeah, we had turned it back,
you know, make back the car up, open up all
the windows and the doors, had turned the car radio
on and listen to that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, it was it was delayed. They went about
half the speed. Is that? What as I remember about that?
That was a very bad joke that people aren't even
getting that when they're thinking, oh my goodness, Joe must
be ill and I am.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Old and we are. But you know what's funny, Joe,
We're not as old as Gary Sullivan, and that's what counts.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He's going to come in there, car back in your life,
his head a little bit. You know, I may lose
my voice at any minute. And it's just one of
those weird spring things that happen where you go from
feeling fine one day and the next day you're you
(29:06):
ever get up and you go testing, testing to see
if you could talk.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yes, especially on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, well that happened to me this morning. I was like,
uh oh this, you know, this isn't good. You know,
I'm gonna have to maybe if I just unplug the
radio station, you know, I can get by with this. Well,
what's causing that, Joe, what's causing this?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, you did not have a voice.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well, I tell you it's uh it is. It's just
that time of year, you know what I mean, more
people than I thought.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
That stuff that flies off of the flowers, the male flowers.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Oh pollen. You know, I've never been bothered by that.
I don't think that's the It's the rise and fall
of temperatures. You know, you have warm temperatures and you
go in the in the dumpster, so every spring and fall.
I kind of go through this phase, but not nearly.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, you know, oh my gosh. You know what's
ironic though, When Rita hiking Feld is on, she always
has a frog in her throat. Now go go figure,
huh part time witch doctor.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I'm not saying that. I mean I don't need Yeah,
I mean I'll tell you we might things make us
well now you know, now you know why the lights
are out.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I could be no, just teased her by I just
teased my color that every now and then.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh I know, I know, we all know. And there
her recipes.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh my goodness when she when she used to bring
it in, I mean absolutely, yeah, yes, do that anymore?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
So?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oak trees, oak trees.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, I was out looking at the periodical cicada, which
between last week and today, I mean they really started rolling.
Okay last you know, last week there was a little bit,
but boy, I'll tell you it's they're really rolling now,
even with the cool temperatures, which is a bit surprising
all although we really are waiting for that, for temperatures
(31:20):
to rise and then we have a warm day and
then a rain and warm I mean, in other words, rainfall,
a warm rain really brings these things up. So but
you know, this past Monday, I called you as I
was driving around Mason and yeah, because it was really
(31:40):
it was. It was kind of surprising, so I did
a post. Of course, we do have a an O
issue fact sheet on periodical cicadas that we updated and
this is its brood fourteen is big. I'm a lot
of those listening I will experience it. Not as many
though in Ohio. It's mainly the southern part of the state.
(32:04):
And that's that's important because every time we have a
periodical cicada emergency, it's it's just human nature, you know,
to think, oh, it's gonna happen here, unless you know,
somebody defines it for you. Right, Oh there you go. Yeah,
is that electrical or cicadas?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I think I think Dan's being electrocuted right now.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
But I know I was going to say, wait a minute, yeah,
let go of the wire. You can't, you can't, Oh
my goodness, can't.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
That's what's keeping us on the air right now.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh well, any right, so so
we're we're seeing the emergence where you know, so far,
primarily for me, it's been primarily one species, uh, Cassini.
But there are three different species that will that are emerging,
and the males are starting to sing already, although again,
(33:00):
these cool temperatures are probably going to slow things in uh.
And then once we start warming up, I think, what
in August maybe is this? Does this spring seem unusually
slow to you or me?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know what? Again? I reflect back to nineteen sixty
seven when my dad and I went to the five hundred. Uh.
It was so cold that day. I had a top
coat remember the top coast I.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Don't know, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, a top.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Coat on and a sweater and a and a shirt
and pants and shoes obviously, and still froze myself. I
was freezing. I'll never forget that, as cold as can be.
So you know it has happened.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But you know, yeah, yeah, well you're right, yeah, it's yeah,
it's our memory. I mean you are suggesting our memories
can be flawed. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
A little bit maybe a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
In fact, I forgot that we have to take a break.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh gee, whiz, the lights are out, so you don't
need to.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, now I think we probably should take one. Is
it okay? With you sorry. He's okay with me, all right,
Dan says it's okay with him. Quick break, we come back.
We'll finish out with Buggy Joe Buggs here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.
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You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time for Part
two with the Bugget Joe Boggs Report Joe Boggs of course,
I wish you extension website byg L dot O SU
dot E d U Joe. Where did this come from?
There's nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt
to adjust the picture. We are controlling the transmission.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Well it came from ah oh now wait just a
second though. That outer limits.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yes, I knew you'd get it.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, you know it's funny because I almost I was
hitting down the path of the twilight zone. No, no,
you know that, yeah, yeah, I and then I veered
off because I was thinking, oh, yes, that's well, you know,
I'd love to have you. You really need to probably
look at that as a lead in to the show.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
What do you there's nothing wrong with your radio.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, I like that. We are controlling, you.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Know, not attempted, just the station. We are controlling transmission.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know. Anyway, the demographically there'd be a sliver of
listeners that.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Would truly get that few if they had a question
sense of humor, liked watching.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The Well, there you go. I mean we all did.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I never thought it was as good as The Twilight Zone,
but you know it was a good follow up.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It was a good fight. Yeah, you're right, it was.
It was it was. It was right in that scientific groove,
you know, that was pretty popular at that time. They did,
but somehow the other they could just never get them right. Yeah,
they always gave them human eyes and just you know,
(37:55):
they're just kind of jerky action, you know, they just
it was always disappointing.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Garry his favorite Twilight Jones where the guy flipped the
coin in the box and it stood on end and
he could read everybody's minds.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Oh man, by the way, coward just came back.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
So somebody paid the bill, Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, or it could have been you know what we're
talking about right now, they.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Were controlling the lights. All right, I'm sorry I interrupt you.
So we were on the cicadas and we said something
about oaks.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And well the cicadas. Before I get off, I do
off that topic. I do want to make sure that
I just cicada safari. I'm just telling the listeners that
we really do need help with this, because that's an
app that is available on excuse me, all forms of
phones except maybe the radio. Right, yeah, and at any rate,
(38:58):
Doctor Jen Kritsky with the Mount Saint joe'sphe University developed
it with their IT folks some time ago. And the
idea is that you can take a picture and just
hit one button after that and that picture flies out
of your phone. You can see it going through the
air and it ends up at this at a location
where they can take a look at it and log
(39:20):
your locations so that we know, we get a better
idea of where this brood is emerging, because there's only
this day that can only be gathered once every seventeen years.
And if you look at older maps, if you know,
you'll find that there's some questions, you know, like for example, right,
(39:41):
you know, some older maps show the current brood brood
fourteen that's emerging in Ohio in places that we're pretty
sure it never never existed. On the other hand, there
are some big holes where we know that the cicadas
will probably be, like in Southeast Ohio, r On. It's
(40:02):
really interesting. When you look at the map, you just
have to get well, they must be there, but they
were just never never reported. So it's a great way
to help science. It's a great way to help us
for the future because as we get these maps more detailed,
then we're better poised to be able to respond when
there's going to be a brute emergence and help people
(40:26):
to understand what they should or shouldn't do. So, while
I was looking for cicadas, I came across leaves that
were just it looked like they had missing pieces on
and it was these were oak leaves. And this has
been a problem, you know, I've talked about before they
(40:47):
kind of went away. I went back and looked at
my pictures back in the like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty
and some I'm a little bit older than that, and
you know what I'm talking about are holes that that
sometimes line up on either side of the leaf. I'm
not saying that quite right across the vein, the main
(41:09):
vein right. Oh yeah, one hole on the left side
and it matches the hole on the right and that's
caused by something called the oak shot hoole leaf miner.
And that's a there's a lot of words there to
get to something though, that doesn't even describe the holes.
It's a little fly and the females have a sharp
ovipositor egg lagging device. They have lapping mouth parts so
(41:33):
they can't chew anything. So what they do is they
stick the ova positor, which is kind of like a stinger.
I hate to say it that way because then somebody
will thinking, oh, Joe's saying, you know, flies sting, and
you know, he must be crazy, and then others will say, yes,
that's why, Yes, yes, it's a it's a well known fact.
(41:55):
But seriously, it is just used to jab eggs into
the into the vein of the leaves usually, but in
this case, she jabs a leaf with her ovipositor and
a little bit of sap comes out, and then she
just turns around with her lapping mouth parts and laps
up that sap. That's how she gets energy. Well, if
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this is being done on a bud, a leaf bud,
because you know, if you cut open a leaf bud,
you'll find that the leaf is kind of furled inside
right ron It's more of a matter of elongation. It
is cell development when leaves develop, and so that's where
she jabs in a bud. You get holes on each
(42:38):
side of the veins. Kind of an interesting thing. And
I've actually done that, taking a pen pi in not
pe in, and you know, put it in a bud
and then come back and you look at what the
leaves look like and you will see matching holes. However,
later on, as those leaves are continuing to emerge, she
keeps doing this, you'll see these little tiny spots on
(43:00):
the leaf and eventually show lay an egg and there'll
be a leafbiner and then all that taking together leaves,
the really big holes and tat or leaves. They really
don't hurt the tree, but can look bad.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
More aesthetic than anything else. So if you see it,
just an appreciate it, observe it, and just remember that
buggy Joe Boggs told you all about it. You have
a great week, Joe Boggs, have a great week. Thank
you so much. Sir, all right, bye bye, Thanks all
of our callers, thanks our sponsors, thanks of course Danny
Lease and our producer, because without Danny, none of the
(43:36):
stuff would happen. Now, Danny, thank you so much for
all you do. Now do yourself a favor. Still plenty
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Keep planting those Danny plants, pamper your worms, get the
kids and dogs of ball with gardening bee friendly and
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on Monday, so let's get out and honor those who
made the ultimate sacrifice. So you and I can do
what we're doing right now and make it the best
(43:56):
weekend of your life. See it.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
How is your garden growing? Call Ron now at one
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Our total free number on this Memorial weekend eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Good morning. I
am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy. We are talking
about yard ning. Get a few things planted over the
last couple of weeks between Mother's Day and this weekend.
Hopefully you did. And I've been out there looking at
the garden centers, locally and locally owned independent garden centers,
(00:56):
and still staying pretty well stocked. And that's that's a
good thing. Every year, get better and better at that
all the time trying to carry those annual vegetable herbs, perennials,
all that selection right on through the month of May
and into June as well, because still got plenty of
time to plant. As a matter of fact, talk to
the gentleman this morning from North Carolina that already, you know,
(01:17):
obviously got an earlier start on tomato planting. I already
has tomatoes and all but gotten into some leaf diseases already,
and you know a lot of times there are some
of them that won't affect your tomato. They'll continue to
ripen obviously, as you lose leaves, not a good thing,
but they will continue to ripen. But still plenty of
time to pull those out and replant, so you know,
(01:38):
and I'll in our area and we're Zone six, I'll plant,
you know, vegetables, the tomatoes included, right up until about
the fourth of July. If I find something I haven't
planned it before somewhere and I want to give it
a try, that's about as late as I'll go. But
you know, that's that's two months away, month and a
half away, so we still have six weeks easily for planting. Obviously,
(02:01):
selections go down as we get toward the end of
this month and into June, but we'll keep some of
the basics going for you since you always have tomatoes
or peppers or something, or petunias or geraniums or whatever
it may be for you to choose from. May not
be exactly what you were looking for, but still be
available for you out there, So keep that in mind.
(02:21):
And you know, I think back when I was a
kid man, I'll tell you what the Memorial Weekend Decoration day,
of course it was called back then, but Memorial Weekend
that's you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, usually a three or
four day weekend. My parents, that's when they were planting,
finishing up with the tomatoes and peppers and those tender
a annuals vegetables, and of course planting a few geraniums.
(02:45):
There are a few petunias here and there, marigolds a lot,
some from seed, some from the plants. Still remember going
to a small greenhouse from Greensburg, Indiana and my dad
getting tomatoes from there to plant, and that's when they
sold them, and they had them and raised beds. These
beds are about six inches deep peat moss in there,
and then they have all the tomato plants growing in
(03:07):
a row. And then you how many you want, and
they have about three selections, probably big boys, Rutgers and
marglobes or something like that, and you know six of this,
six of that whatever, and they would go in and
take seven out, usually give you an extra one. Pull
seven out, bear root, a little bit of peat moss
around them, wrap them in moist newspaper, and then give
(03:27):
them to you that way, and you took them home
right away, got them planted that day and watered in
and shade and went from there. And I remember that
day was the first day I went with my dad,
and that I ever was given a flower to plant
was an agoratum. We'll always remember that they gave kids
a little flour to get them started, obviously, which I
(03:48):
guess that's why it's stuck with me about getting kids
involved with gardening. But gave me an agoratum. That was
the first flower that I ever planted. But I could
still see that clear as a bell. Such great experiences
going to that greenhouse with my dad again it but
but again it was Memorial weekend. That's when everything that
was tender got planned because you didn't want to take
a chance about the frost and things like that. All right,
(04:11):
enough reminiscing eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five to Tennessee. We go, Karen, good.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
First of all, I'm going to tell you that I
hear your radio station in the background plus.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You okay, all right, Danie'll try to fix that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Okay, all right, I have a huge problem. Oh it
started out with just a few and now it's it's
basically taking over my whole yard. And of what I understand,
you can't eradicate it. It's h O U T tu
y and I and I've also got some of the chameleons.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well that's that's that is what that is who tenia
and sometimes called chameleon play.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, it's everywhere. I just jumped from the front yard
to my backyard. It's been with day lily. I'm just sick.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm sick.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I've tried pulling it when it first started.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That just makes it mad.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Oh, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That just makes it mad, makes it come back too fold. Karen,
I made the mistake, I don't know, fifteen years ago
of planting Hutenia in our backyard in a raised planter bed.
And I had some marborviety for a fencing screen, and
I was going to do the groundcover with Hutenya beautiful foliage,
great little flower, smell a little aroma to it as well,
(05:40):
and it was beautiful and it filled that in and
then the next year it was coming through the sides
of it, and the following year it was in the
beds next to it, and then it was in the
front yard and it was like, you've got to be
And then I realized that this thing should have been
put on the invasive list, which it is now in
a lot of states. But it's a great yeah. And
that's the problem is if a if a bird or
(06:03):
a critter picks up a piece of it and drops it,
that's all it takes. And it spreads both from seed
and by runners under the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's what makes it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's what makes it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Here's what it took me. I swear I say five years,
but it took me probably three good solid years. I
physically removed as much as I could the first year.
I mean, I dug out two inches of soil. I
took everything I could to physically get rid of it.
And then anytime I saw it pop up, I hit
(06:36):
it with a non vegetation killer like round up kills
all something like that. And when they're young and tender
like that, it does knock come back, and it does
take out some of the root. But I kept nuke
in it and nuke in it, and nuke in it,
and nuke and it, and I finally one year realized
it wasn't coming up in my yard anymore. But it
took me at least three years of really physically getting
(07:00):
rid of it initially, and then just spot treating, spot treating,
spot treating, until finally I got rid of that darn stuff.
It's pretty cool on the edge of a pond. It'll
creep out into a pond. It's really neat there. But otherwise,
uh yeah, it's it's a it's bad news. But all
I can tell you is that the non selective vegetation
killers will go after it. It'll take out some of it,
(07:25):
but it won't take out all the roots. So you've
got to stick. It's like doing thistle. You just keep after,
keep after, keep after, till you finally starve it to death.
And that may be a couple three years down the road.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Unfortunately, fortunately I don't my eighty one.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, you're breaking up with me there. But if you
can you know that killer, what can you do to what?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
What non would you say for a killer? Non vegetate?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
A non selective vegetation killers. So if you think about
round up, the old roundup, you think about kills. All
these these are vegetation killers that no matter what you
spray it on, it takes them out, and it takes
them out. It's the systemic. It goes through the top
and into the roots. But the roots are so extensive,
just like a thistle, that it takes multiple applications in
(08:21):
a couple of years to eventually starve it all out.
But the goal is to get rid of as much
of as you can at the beginning, and then don't
let it get another foothold. So anytime you recognize that
that's what that leaf is, you take it. You spray
it right away, nuked, nuked, and you do that two
or three years in a row, and eventually you finally
(08:42):
start to get it under control. But don't ever let
it progress more than that little small leaf, and go
after it at that point and just keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We'll let kill monkey grass down the hill. I've got
not ivy, but it's a green variegated front or plan it'll.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It'll kill, it'll, it'll burn or kill whatever you spray
it on. So if it's if that, if that uh,
whutenia is growing amongst other plants, you either have to
protect the other plants. Sometimes what's good is I'll take
a one gallon milk jug and take to cut the
bottom out of it, and then slip the milk jug
over top of the houtenia, spray down through the lid,
(09:22):
let everything settle down on top of the hutenia. Then
take that off and I don't get any drift on
the surrounding plants.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, pussy grass. I don't care, so oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It'll creep. It'll creep in wherever it can creep in.
Trust me. Uh it's it's nasty stuff. Yeah, good luck
whether that's all I can say. All right, to have
a good weekend, good talking with you. It's called Houtenia
or chameleon plant, and they it's still available but mostly
sold today as a water plant that you would put
on the side of a pond or something like that,
(09:59):
but it could still Oh you get a couple pieces out,
it drops. It's horrible. It's a cool looking plant, but
it's horrible once it starts to take over. All right,
quick break, we come back, yess who's up mister Gary Solivan.
We'll get a little home improved from him. And at
the bottom of the hour, Buggy Joe Boggs And it's
all happening here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (13:29):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five of this time for a little home
improvement from the Man the mid the legend he is
the most listened to home improvement show host in the
entire Solar system. He's telling you to get off that
schneide and get out and do some home improvement. Ladies
(13:50):
and gentlemen. The One, the Only, the Man, the med
the Legend, Mister Gary.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Sulimon, how's your garden growing, Miss Wilson.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Mister sell them this cool weather?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Alway?
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Has it been cool?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I didn't notice. The garden has kind of been Okay,
it kind of slowed.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Down a bit, kind of took a back seat, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
But you know what hasn't slowed down and it is
eating this up? Is what you're mowing twice a week?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Uh huh. That's my question in today's show.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
How many times are your mowing your lawn each week?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
That would be question number one. Question number two is
gas powered mover or battery powered?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
More? Ah, they're getting pretty good with.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Us, Yeah they are. I'm just curious how al it's
holding up during the springtime?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh with all, I see what you're saying. If you
use one, how's it holding?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How's that working for you? If it lasted for two hours?
Now is it an hour and ten minutes?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Yeah? I'd say most of them. Really, you probably if
you got a couple betters, you can get an hour
on them. Well, of course they vary too. They got
them with tractors in everything else. I'm just curious. I'm
sure a lot of people, you know, as their older
mowers start breaking down, or you get tired of it,
or whatever the case, maybe people start vestling back and
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forth between gas power battery power, and if you've made
that switch, do you like it?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Start vacillating back and forth? Actually, I like one use
those big words like that.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Oh sorry, apologize, I'll look that one up later, going
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Did they even sell the electric lawnmowers with a cord?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
That's a good question. I haven't seen in my battery.
I doubt it. What a dangerous thing we, you know,
back in the hardware days, though, we always sold a
few of those every year.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But you also saw some real you know we did
long long time ago, with a real more when you
were a kid, or do you have a gas guy.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
By the time I was mowngrass, we had a gas power.
But I remember my dad had a real mower that
you know he used.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I don't remember very well. I'm much younger than you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So that's why I figured you would have remembered that.
I don't.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I remember they were certainly used in our neighborhood on
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
How many of those metal vases and wreath hangars did
your hardware?
Speaker 7 (16:19):
So yeah, sold a bunch of shows too. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Now we get the wet and for getting clean off
the limestone and marble tombstone.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Spray the tombstone with a little wet and forget.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
No kid though that that's that's not a joke. It's
amazing how much when I started talking about this stuff
from twenty years ago, it was another product name I
think it was zime Away, and they made a hand
spray one and somebody called me from I think it
was in Hawaii. It was a large, you know, cemetery
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service cemetery and I don't remember which one or I
don't really remember the story, but the story was is
all the tombstones had just become blackish gray, and I
can't remember whether marble or limestone. I just and I
was talking to the owner of ziime Away, and he said, oh,
you just spray that on there, it'll go away. And
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I said that on the air, and I started getting
all kinds of emails, letters, whatever it was back then,
and how well it worked and the wetting Forgets. Got
it ready to use one now and I still get
emails from people that have taken the ready to use
and take it and spray down the headstone and just
how you know, how it just brightens it up.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think when Weddin Forgets first started advertising, that was
one of their sticks, Yeah, was the headstones. Yeah. And
a lot of people that were going in and cleaning
up old cemeteries that have been overgrown and whatever. Right,
we're cleaning out all the weeds and vines and stuff
and then spraying them with this wedding Forget And it
took you know, a couple three.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Weeks, four weeks, Yeah, it takes you know, depending on
how bad the infestation of that funguses and algae, it
can take four to six weeks.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah. And then coming back later and what that thing.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Was, its brand new. It is amazing. Yeah, So yeah,
that's the big thing now, I guess.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Huh getting on cleaning off the headstones.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Yeah, sure, you're getting those older cemeteries. Absolutely. I read
them again.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, I was in the you know where Rose
Hill is in Mason, Ohio, and I was I was
over there, so looking at a couple of trees for
some people that had planned a long time ago. And
you know what, I I don't know why we're getting
onto this subject, but you know what I I'm not
crazy about. Are those new headstones that had the pictures.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Oh yeah, that's I think that's kind of weird, kind
of creepy, isn't I mean know, I you know, it's
just it's different.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
But I didn't realize how many are like that now. Hmm.
I mean, not that I go on cemetery.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
I'm not sure I have an opinion on that, but
I kind of get where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Just it was different, Yeah, seeing somebody's face on there.
But I guess I was surprised how many were like that.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Now now they'll put QR codes on them and you'll
be able to snap your phone and watch old videos.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
What do you think that idea?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm probably already doing that. Yeah, the screen probably comes
on on the tubestone. Yeah that's done.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Maybe. Of course, back in the day with you, you
had to ord pre order because it was done with
a chisel and a hammer.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
You were so mean to me. This guy's clollyon mean
to me. I don't know, see he's got too much
rain in his garden.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
All right, So it's Memorial weekend, three day weekend. Obviously
we're not gonna do anything on Monday because that's not
it's all about take off and remember an honor these
folks that gave their lives. But you're not gonna make
people do anything this weekend, are you. Besides get out
and work in the plant trees and shrubs.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
We're gonna do what we always do. We're gonna talk
about projects and maintenance that needs to be done, and
when you choose to do it, that's up to you. Right, Yes,
that's what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're just gonna have people prepared.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
The question is, is no struggle with this every year?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Maybe you're gonna help me. You're so much smarter than me.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Right, do you say happy Memorial Yeah? I don't either.
I started thinking about this again to day. Maybe the
best way to do is have a blessed Memorial Day.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
What do you think again?
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, that's that's yeah. No, I don'kay.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
If I tried, I tried to bring light to the table,
you know.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
But no, I'm not a happy Memorial Day or a
happy Memorial Day weekend person. Next year.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
We'll do all kind of prep on that, find out
what the proper salutation is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
All right, do that for me. I appreciate it. I'll
get right on it. Have a great Memorial weekend, Thank you, sir.
You do the saying good good talking with you, sir,
and have a great show.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Mister Gary Suliman. Be sure to check out his website,
Gary Sullivan online dot com. Coming up next, Buggy Joe
Boggs Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:59):
Welcome back in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't forget
our website, It's Ron Wilson Online dot com Facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson, And as I promise,
it is time for the Buggy Joe Bog departments. So
Joe bobbis just a professor Commercial Order Juture really honest
at University Extension know what issue Department of Entomology. Poster
boy for a issue Extension co creator of Cofra Mathra
Coffee Emporium with their new drink Twisted Dandelion t the
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website b y g L dot O SU dot ed
you ladies and gentlemen, the one the only mister common
sensical himself, Buggy Joe Bob. You know what a good electrician.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, i'd gary there. I mean, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think you go fix this.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, you know, have you not just found where the
extension court unplugged? Is that somebody tripped over that at
I mean, that's happened before.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I think maybe something that I heard forgot to pay
the bill something I don't know. It was, everything just
shut off.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
These guys are on emergency power there.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, we're on the backup now.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Uh oh, well that's why you called me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
You're on the backup, right, Yeah, that's it, that's it.
They have those two huge diesel generators out back there. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. Yeah, there's those big with
big diesels and then how long they can go and
just yeah, the hospitals when something like this happens, you
hardly even know, right, Yeah, Well.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You wouldn't know there because nothing skips a be because
there's a bad battery backup for all the radio equipment,
so that it just it doesn't skip a b Besides you,
all the rest of the lights go out and you're
in total darkness.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
So yeah, I likes went out for about thirty seconds,
generator kicked in, they came back.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I don't know. I can't hear you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well in that case, Joe, just keep talking, somebody'll hear you.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Can't help myself, you know. Yeah, you're you're muffled, muffled,
Yeah there, you man.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Not.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Things are happening this week, things are underway.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I don't know if you heard the I don't know
if you heard the news. They said that the Indy
five hundred was going on on Sunday from Indianapolis at
the Indie Trace Track. That makes sense, doesn't if the
Indy five Indianapolis, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It does make sense. Yeah, And like hundred, where is
that at? Maybe I don't know. I think it's over
in Daytona. I think it's in dayton Kentucky. Isn't that right?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Four bridges up in Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh me, anyway, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt.
Please step up to the plate, mister Boks.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You are not interrupting at all. We are just we're
just using that term bantering, right, We're just bantering.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Just just curious as a child growing up, and I
was telling us story earlier. It was Memorial weekend that
I accompanied my father to the local greenhouse to pick
up his tomato plants and pepper plants at a few flowers.
Not Mother's Day weekend, not the first weekend, and may
not in Mapril, but it was Memorial weekend, Memorial Saturday
(26:19):
that we went and got those.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's I'm really glad you said that, because I was
thinking the other day that things seem to be sliding
towards back, towards winter. I'm like you, Ron, I can
tell you know, growing up, you know Mother's Day. Now
this is in West Virginia, so a little further south
but not much. But but Mother's Day, you know, there
(26:45):
were certain things blooming that we always kind of, you know,
counted on, and there's just certain it was more kind
of a cleanup of the of the yard and everything
before Mother's Day and then and then yeah, Memorial around
Memorial Day was when we did really start planting things.
And so I'm glad you said that because we I
(27:06):
learned yesterday that you and I are the same age,
and I did not know that. I actually didn't know
that you were you. No, No, I thought you were.
I even told my wife that you were younger than me. Seriously,
I I really did.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Gary's a lot older than both of us. Oh man,
so there you go.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Listen to this. But uh, you know, we've been around
long enough to see some of these changes occurring. But
but I hadn't taken note I planted tomatoes. I was
thinking much earlier. But then then in the past, I've
been doing that for a while. But you're right, Memorial
Day was a you know, plant the garden and watch
(27:50):
the Indy five hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well no, no, we didn't watch. And I grew up
in Greensburg, Indiana. We you listen to it on the
car radio.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well that's what I was laughing about, because.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I I remember they finally started televising that thing. And
I think it was a delay too when they televised it,
if I'm not mistaken, But yeah, we had turned it back,
you know, make back the car up, open up all
the windows and the doors, had turned the car radio
on and listen to that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, it was it was delayed. They went about
half the speed. Is that? What as I remember about that?
That was a very bad joke that people aren't even
getting that when they're thinking, oh my goodness, Joe must
be ill and I am.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Old and we are. But you know what's funny, Joe,
We're not as old as Gary Sullivan, and that's what counts.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He's going to come in there, car back in your life,
his head a little bit. You know, I may lose
my voice at any minute. And it's just one of
those weird spring things that happen where you go from
feeling fine one day and the next day you're you
(29:06):
ever get up and you go testing, testing to see
if you could talk.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yes, especially on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, well that happened to me this morning. I was like,
uh oh this, you know, this isn't good. You know,
I'm gonna have to maybe if I just unplug the
radio station, you know, I can get by with this. Well,
what's causing that, Joe, what's causing this?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, you did not have a voice.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well, I tell you it's uh it is. It's just
that time of year, you know what I mean, more
people than I thought.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
That stuff that flies off of the flowers, the male flowers.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Oh pollen. You know, I've never been bothered by that.
I don't think that's the It's the rise and fall
of temperatures. You know, you have warm temperatures and you
go in the in the dumpster, so every spring and fall.
I kind of go through this phase, but not nearly.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, you know, oh my gosh. You know what's
ironic though, When Rita hiking Feld is on, she always
has a frog in her throat. Now go go figure,
huh part time witch doctor.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I'm not saying that. I mean I don't need Yeah,
I mean I'll tell you we might things make us
well now you know, now you know why the lights
are out.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I could be no, just teased her by I just
teased my color that every now and then.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh I know, I know, we all know. And there
her recipes.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh my goodness when she when she used to bring
it in, I mean absolutely, yeah, yes, do that anymore?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
So?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oak trees, oak trees.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, I was out looking at the periodical cicada, which
between last week and today, I mean they really started rolling.
Okay last you know, last week there was a little bit,
but boy, I'll tell you it's they're really rolling now,
even with the cool temperatures, which is a bit surprising
all although we really are waiting for that, for temperatures
(31:20):
to rise and then we have a warm day and
then a rain and warm I mean, in other words, rainfall,
a warm rain really brings these things up. So but
you know, this past Monday, I called you as I
was driving around Mason and yeah, because it was really
(31:40):
it was. It was kind of surprising, so I did
a post. Of course, we do have a an O
issue fact sheet on periodical cicadas that we updated and
this is its brood fourteen is big. I'm a lot
of those listening I will experience it. Not as many
though in Ohio. It's mainly the southern part of the state.
(32:04):
And that's that's important because every time we have a
periodical cicada emergency, it's it's just human nature, you know,
to think, oh, it's gonna happen here, unless you know,
somebody defines it for you. Right, Oh there you go. Yeah,
is that electrical or cicadas?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I think I think Dan's being electrocuted right now.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
But I know I was going to say, wait a minute, yeah,
let go of the wire. You can't, you can't, Oh
my goodness, can't.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
That's what's keeping us on the air right now.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh well, any right, so so
we're we're seeing the emergence where you know, so far,
primarily for me, it's been primarily one species, uh, Cassini.
But there are three different species that will that are emerging,
and the males are starting to sing already, although again,
(33:00):
these cool temperatures are probably going to slow things in uh.
And then once we start warming up, I think, what
in August maybe is this? Does this spring seem unusually
slow to you or me?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know what? Again? I reflect back to nineteen sixty
seven when my dad and I went to the five hundred. Uh.
It was so cold that day. I had a top
coat remember the top coast I.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Don't know, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, a top.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Coat on and a sweater and a and a shirt
and pants and shoes obviously, and still froze myself. I
was freezing. I'll never forget that, as cold as can be.
So you know it has happened.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But you know, yeah, yeah, well you're right, yeah, it's yeah,
it's our memory. I mean you are suggesting our memories
can be flawed. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
A little bit maybe a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
In fact, I forgot that we have to take a break.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh gee, whiz, the lights are out, so you don't
need to.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, now I think we probably should take one. Is
it okay? With you sorry. He's okay with me, all right,
Dan says it's okay with him. Quick break, we come back.
We'll finish out with Buggy Joe Buggs here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.
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You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time for Part
two with the Bugget Joe Boggs Report Joe Boggs of course,
I wish you extension website byg L dot O SU
dot E d U Joe. Where did this come from?
There's nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt
to adjust the picture. We are controlling the transmission.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Well it came from ah oh now wait just a
second though. That outer limits.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yes, I knew you'd get it.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, you know it's funny because I almost I was
hitting down the path of the twilight zone. No, no,
you know that, yeah, yeah, I and then I veered
off because I was thinking, oh, yes, that's well, you know,
I'd love to have you. You really need to probably
look at that as a lead in to the show.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
What do you there's nothing wrong with your radio.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, I like that. We are controlling, you.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Know, not attempted, just the station. We are controlling transmission.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know. Anyway, the demographically there'd be a sliver of
listeners that.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Would truly get that few if they had a question
sense of humor, liked watching.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The Well, there you go. I mean we all did.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I never thought it was as good as The Twilight Zone,
but you know it was a good follow up.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It was a good fight. Yeah, you're right, it was.
It was it was. It was right in that scientific groove,
you know, that was pretty popular at that time. They did,
but somehow the other they could just never get them right. Yeah,
they always gave them human eyes and just you know,
(37:55):
they're just kind of jerky action, you know, they just
it was always disappointing.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Garry his favorite Twilight Jones where the guy flipped the
coin in the box and it stood on end and
he could read everybody's minds.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Oh man, by the way, coward just came back.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
So somebody paid the bill, Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, or it could have been you know what we're
talking about right now, they.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Were controlling the lights. All right, I'm sorry I interrupt you.
So we were on the cicadas and we said something
about oaks.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And well the cicadas. Before I get off, I do
off that topic. I do want to make sure that
I just cicada safari. I'm just telling the listeners that
we really do need help with this, because that's an
app that is available on excuse me, all forms of
phones except maybe the radio. Right, yeah, and at any rate,
(38:58):
Doctor Jen Kritsky with the Mount Saint joe'sphe University developed
it with their IT folks some time ago. And the
idea is that you can take a picture and just
hit one button after that and that picture flies out
of your phone. You can see it going through the
air and it ends up at this at a location
where they can take a look at it and log
(39:20):
your locations so that we know, we get a better
idea of where this brood is emerging, because there's only
this day that can only be gathered once every seventeen years.
And if you look at older maps, if you know,
you'll find that there's some questions, you know, like for example, right,
(39:41):
you know, some older maps show the current brood brood
fourteen that's emerging in Ohio in places that we're pretty
sure it never never existed. On the other hand, there
are some big holes where we know that the cicadas
will probably be, like in Southeast Ohio, r On. It's
(40:02):
really interesting. When you look at the map, you just
have to get well, they must be there, but they
were just never never reported. So it's a great way
to help science. It's a great way to help us
for the future because as we get these maps more detailed,
then we're better poised to be able to respond when
there's going to be a brute emergence and help people
(40:26):
to understand what they should or shouldn't do. So, while
I was looking for cicadas, I came across leaves that
were just it looked like they had missing pieces on
and it was these were oak leaves. And this has
been a problem, you know, I've talked about before they
(40:47):
kind of went away. I went back and looked at
my pictures back in the like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty
and some I'm a little bit older than that, and
you know what I'm talking about are holes that that
sometimes line up on either side of the leaf. I'm
not saying that quite right across the vein, the main
(41:09):
vein right. Oh yeah, one hole on the left side
and it matches the hole on the right and that's
caused by something called the oak shot hoole leaf miner.
And that's a there's a lot of words there to
get to something though, that doesn't even describe the holes.
It's a little fly and the females have a sharp
ovipositor egg lagging device. They have lapping mouth parts so
(41:33):
they can't chew anything. So what they do is they
stick the ova positor, which is kind of like a stinger.
I hate to say it that way because then somebody
will thinking, oh, Joe's saying, you know, flies sting, and
you know, he must be crazy, and then others will say, yes,
that's why, Yes, yes, it's a it's a well known fact.
(41:55):
But seriously, it is just used to jab eggs into
the into the vein of the leaves usually, but in
this case, she jabs a leaf with her ovipositor and
a little bit of sap comes out, and then she
just turns around with her lapping mouth parts and laps
up that sap. That's how she gets energy. Well, if
(42:15):
this is being done on a bud, a leaf bud,
because you know, if you cut open a leaf bud,
you'll find that the leaf is kind of furled inside
right ron It's more of a matter of elongation. It
is cell development when leaves develop, and so that's where
she jabs in a bud. You get holes on each
(42:38):
side of the veins. Kind of an interesting thing. And
I've actually done that, taking a pen pi in not
pe in, and you know, put it in a bud
and then come back and you look at what the
leaves look like and you will see matching holes. However,
later on, as those leaves are continuing to emerge, she
keeps doing this, you'll see these little tiny spots on
(43:00):
the leaf and eventually show lay an egg and there'll
be a leafbiner and then all that taking together leaves,
the really big holes and tat or leaves. They really
don't hurt the tree, but can look bad.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
More aesthetic than anything else. So if you see it,
just an appreciate it, observe it, and just remember that
buggy Joe Boggs told you all about it. You have
a great week, Joe Boggs, have a great week. Thank
you so much. Sir, all right, bye bye, Thanks all
of our callers, thanks our sponsors, thanks of course Danny
Lease and our producer, because without Danny, none of the
(43:36):
stuff would happen. Now, Danny, thank you so much for
all you do. Now do yourself a favor. Still plenty
of time to plant a tree or two or three.
Keep planting those Danny plants, pamper your worms, get the
kids and dogs of ball with gardening bee friendly and
pollinator polite. And of course it is Memorial a day
on Monday, so let's get out and honor those who
made the ultimate sacrifice. So you and I can do
what we're doing right now and make it the best
(43:56):
weekend of your life. See it.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
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