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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Roun Wilson, your
personal yard boy. We are talking about yarding on this
final Saturday in May twenty twenty five. Can't believe that
month flew its kind of crazy anyway, as I promise
she is back again with it to Saturday. How about
we didn't blessed to have her with us every Saturday
so before. It has been absolutely outstanding. It's time for

(00:58):
our you eurbly experience with our CMH Award winning syndicated journalist,
Appalachian herbal scholar, member of the Herb Society of America, herbalist, author,
cooking teacher, media personality, and motivational speaker. You'll hear on
Sacred Herd Radio and on iHeartRadio, as well our website
about eating dot com ladies and gentlemen, Rita Nader Hike

(01:20):
and filled.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Big Crowd, Big crowd today, Well, good morning. You always
make me sound so much more important than you are
the reality of it, but it makes me smile.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
You are the his, the reality. We only speak the
truth here, the reality, the truth and justice in the
American way right here, look up in the sky, it's
a bird, it's a plane. It's Riot, super Rita. Dan
likes it that I write when I when I tell
him you're going to be on that you're gonna call in.
He likes it that I write Riot, Oh of course.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
And you know, if you ever oh my name, you
only spell my name correctly, then I'll be very hurt.
I don't know what happened. You messed it up one time,
and then I sort of like that.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's it's the way I type. That's it. I do that.
It's just my brain always types riot, not.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Really your cell phone autocorrecting.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
And I used to have to go back and change
it if I said this is dumb, just call her Riot.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well it's an unusual name anyway, so we'll go with that.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I'm probably nobody out there called Riot.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Rita Hikenfelder website about eating dot com. Let's get it
right into the the recipe for this week, because Dan
and I both have just been salivating looking at the
picture here and reading the recipe, because how can you
go wrong with pork tender loins wrapped in persudo?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh? And you know, it's it's just an easy, easy, recipe,
but sort of a fancy one. Basically, you're going to
take a couple of pork tender loins they usually come
about a pound each, and trim them just to little bit.
They don't need much, and then I'll have the oven
preheated to three seventy five and then you just put
the tenderloins on a work surface, and then you arrange

(03:13):
sage leaves mister Wilson on the diagonal along its whole length,
and I usually space them evenly, sort of like a
striped barber pole's look. And then after you put the
sage leaves on, you start with the proshuteo and you
start at one end of the tenderloin, and then you
just start wrapping those thin proshuoto slices completely around the tenderloin,

(03:37):
and that sort of looks like a spiral pattern. Two.
And then you're covering the sage leaves, and I usually
press the proschuto in place with my hands and then
basically do that with the other one. And then you
heat some oil and olive oil and butter, and then
you just brown the tenderloins a little bit and then

(03:57):
you bake them. Takes maybe ten minutes at three seventy five,
and while the tenderloin's roasting, those drippings in the skillet,
you add some shallotte and some dry sherry and you
just drizzle that over the tenderloin after its slice. Really fancy,
but very easy to do, and really a delicious way

(04:18):
to use sage leaves because everyone thinks, you know, sage
is just for stuffing, but there's a whole lot it
can do besides that.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
You know, I used to we used to go to
Chicago for the Garden Trade show up there, and there
was an Italian place I used to go to all
the time. They took and I'm pretty sure was Pershudo,
and he cut it up a little, diced it up
in little cubes and then browned and put that in
their fetiches, their alf frot of Genie alfredo with peas.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Mm hmm. That sounds delicious.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I love that well. I can't imagine. I mean, Dan,
they're both are saying both of those together, that's a winner.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, And it's something different, something different, and again it's
fun for entertaining. But pork tenderloin too. The nice thing
about that is they're usually reasonably priced, so you're really
good to go. So I hope all our listeners try it.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now, you said something about browning the pork tenderloine. You
do that before you put on the rest of the
sage and enter, you do that after you wrap.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It, after you wrap it, and then that just starts
gives it a little color because such a lean meat,
and that just makes the sage leaves and the perscutto
stick to it as well, sort of like glue. So
just a little bit. And if you forget to do that,
you know what, no big deal, It'll still be delicious.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Now, pascuto, is that's pork right?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, it's an Italian I don't know if it's cured
or uncured, but it's like I want to say, Italian ham.
It's like very thin, very salty, and not inexpensive, but
really really delicious.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
So we could call this sage pork tenderloin smothered.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
You could call us smothered with procuto. Well, okay, we'll
go with that.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Mm mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, you got both of us looking at that picture
and there going yeah, we should have brought that in here.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Next.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, right. Talking with Rita hiking Feuld her website or
her is about eating dot com. Don't forget to check
out her recipe of the sage and proscutto wrapped pork tenderloin.
Easy to do because if it comes to Rita, you
know it's easy to do and it's going to taste
great at the same time, So be sure and check
that one out. Now, you talked about using sage, so

(06:41):
I am assuming you want to feature sage today as
our herb of the week, and I want to tell
you something I have. Sharon did a couple planters by
the front of our landscape a corporate office last fall,
and we sell sage in the fall for both planting
in the herb garden because you can or planting in
your fall all planters because of that white leaf and

(07:03):
it's pretty cool and it's tough, it's cool, you know, cold,
hardy and all of that. So she planted a couple
in there. Well, everything died out obviously over the wintertime.
Even the stage look pretty bad. But all of a
sudden it came back. It's looking great and it's beer garden,
by the way, but it has a flower on it
right now, and I've never seen the beer garden flower before.

(07:25):
That's it's a purple and it's absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh yeah, it's stunning in the It's a beautiful background
plant too, I think all the stages because they have
those sort of like spiky flower stalks that are just
brilliant purple. And beer garden doesn't flower quite as much
as you know, the common sake. So you got a
nice show there, you've got something special.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I'm thinking that, you know, the overwintering, the cold and
all that probably set it up for doing that. I'm
assuming yeah, yeah, because like I said, I've never seen
it do that before, but it and I clipped that
off and I took it in the office and it
was the training tool, and I said, I'm going to
pretend that I'm Rita Hikingfeld. Can anybody tell me what
this is? And then then nobody, you know, And then

(08:10):
somebody said, well this flower looks like salvia. I said, wow,
very good.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
There you go. There you go. That's the name of
the family Salvia, and it means its a sage. So
interesting name, don't you think I do?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
And then I said, look at the square stem mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Member of the mint family.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Mint family.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Oh, I was doing a Rida hiking Feld here big time.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
You could take that show on the road.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Oh, I tell you what. It was, the big show
with Rita Hikenfeld not being there, not there. Yeah, And
then I said okay, so they so I said, okay,
take one of the leaves and rub it. Now, what
do you smell and the stead It's sage. And I said,
that's exactly, it's sage. Then they got all confused about
what are you talking about, mint family? Why are you
calling it a salvia? And it's sage. We explained all that.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So there you go, very very good. And when we
come back from the break, Hey, are you happy that
I'm really alert now with the time today?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
My goodness? And there's no frog in the throat either.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know. Well, I did have a little sage in
time tea. I really did this morning. I don't know.
I just get that that frog in my throat in
the morning. Don't ask me why anyway, it is what
it is. But excuse me real quick. I was so
glad to hear Dick this morning and that he will
still call you. I love him, and I think we
all look forward to that couple of minutes that you

(09:31):
chat every week.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Oh, absolutely, and he calls Gary Jeffy. You know he
keeps in touch with a whole lot of us. So
it's fine, all wonder, It's very cool, right quick, great,
we come back. We'll talk about sage with our sage expert,
Rita Hikenfeld. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (12:56):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking with our good friend Rita Hikeenfelder
website about eating dot com, talking about her recipes, absolutely outstanding.
It's a poor tenderlin wrapped with prostudo. You can't get
much better than that. And of course inside there would
be sage. So we're talking about the great herb of sage,

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which you should be growing in your garden. Nine hundred
varieties of sage in this world.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Isn't that something you know? I am familiar with a few,
and what I grew up with with probably most of
us here is the common sage, you know, the narrow
leaf from the perennial, and as far as I know,
most sages are very winter hardy, and they die back
and they look a little straggly when they die back

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in the winter when they finally die back, so they
take to pretty good aggressive pruning in the in the spring.
But I always say, the pollinators love the sage flowers,
so let that sage flower before you do too much
pruning in the spring. But there's tons of varieties of sage.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, and again let it, let it flower, is not
going to mess it up. Let them enjoy that, and
then clip that off and a new growth will come
on from there and continue to grow. I thought those
two stages in the containers were toast, and boy they
came right back out again, so you know, it shows
you how tough they are.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh yeah, And as I said, they're not the prettiest
specimen in your garden in early spring because they get
it's a woody erb, you know, hard herbs. But oh
my goodness, it's just a very consistent and you will
always have sage sort of like mint, which you know,
their culinary cousins. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Not aggressive like mint, but very tough and very durable.
So saves you know, I, you know, we think of
stage at least I do. I think of stuffing Thanksgiving,
you know, putting in the sty I smell that, and
I think of turkey and turkey dressing and all that.
Do you call it stuffing or dressing?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
We call it stuffing because we the side.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Of the burg But so if I don't stuff it,
it's not stuffing, it's dressing. Then it's dressing. Yep, same stuff.
But you just got to stuff it to call it stuffing.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I guess again that's how.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
We doing a pan is called dressing.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yes, on the side. On the side, you wouldn't call
it stuffing, although I don't know some people may. But
whatever it is, it will use sage and it will
be delicious.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Gotta have sage in anyway. So sage is the usual,
not only culinary purposes obviously, it's a great looking plant,
and medicinal purposes as well.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh yeah, you know when you think of I always
tell my student sage in time tea. Those two aromatic
herbs will help anything upper respiratory and sage by itself
a lot of time. The different stages, like Dalmatian sage
is brewed into it a tea again to suit throats

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and even coughs, and sometimes it will even help joint
pain and headaches. I mean, so sage we think of
it as stuffing, but it's got some wonderful medicinal qualities
as well.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
For dressing m or dressing. Love it. So what are
your favorite varieties used? And I the one of course
I always promote would be the beer garden.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh yeah, the beer garden is such a beautiful stage,
and it doesn't get so rangy like our common sage.
The leaves are larger and very velvety, and you don't
need many to add to a dish because they're so large.
And what I like about it too is that it
tends to have good leaf production before it gets real

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woody and flowering. So it's just a lovely stage and
it's beautiful, and I have to say in containers as well,
it sort of keeps her shape, so that's a good one.
And again culinarily it's it's got a nice, earthy, sort
of a sage like flavor. Trying to decide and describe
the flavor of sage is sort of hard to me.

(17:09):
It's sort of herbaceous, but sort of earthy and musty.
I don't know what would be your call on that.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
That smells like dressing to me.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, well there you go. And well that's the thing
that people think it's only for dressing. But you can
use sage. I will chop up sage leaves in spring omelets.
I mean, it's really wonderful with vegetables and even with
root vegetables, Like when you think of potatoes and sweet
potatoes and leaks and all that and that you braize

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and like brown sugar and butter and you throw a
few sage leaves in there, really really delicious. So it's
an old fashioned herb with but I think people are
rediscovering it.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Did you tell me they used to use sage to
prevent meat from spoiling?

Speaker 5 (17:57):
They did.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's one of the fun facts. And I love that
in olden days, and you'll say when I was young, Yeah,
sage leaves were used to prevent meat from spoiling. And
it's just sort of like rosemary leaves. It's that strong
scent and it's a good preservative as well. So that
was one of the things that they use stage for.

(18:21):
And when you think about it, when you think medicinally,
it's it's anti bacterial or anti viral. Again, it's it's
just a wonderful medicinal herb. But there's one stage that
I don't think we have talked about too much. Not
the Dalmatian stage, which is one of my favorite culinary stages,
but white sage. You know, the one that they used

(18:42):
for smudging. Are you familiar with that? No, well, you're
just not not in the hippie stage like I am.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Still it's well, you brought a couple of those talks
and kind of let them up there.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I did. Yeah, yeah, you make they It's called a
smugudging stage, and it's white sage and it's sort of
looks like sage brush. It's more bushy, really aromatic, and
the Native Americans would use it to make like smudge
pots and cleanse the air and the spirit. And from

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what I can understand now, Hollywood has really taken up
on this and it's like a go to symbol for cleansing.
So really fun white sage and you'll see it. You
can buy it at the store online now. It's quite popular.
And it's a smudging stage, more spiritual and ceremonial than culinary,

(19:37):
I would say.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
So you probably do that every day then kind to
clear the air.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, I do have a white sage plan. I haven't
done anything with it yet, but you know, now you've
inspired me.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
There you go, and if it prevents me from spoiling.
I guess that's why they use it in the ancient
Egypt for embalming purposes as well.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, well, I would think that that particular body was
already it's pretty far gone, but they did. Yeah, back
in ancient Egypt, it was used for embalming purposes, along
with sinning and other spices, so long ancient history.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's an easy win to grow. Put it in your
herb garden. You're gonna love it. You're gonna use it,
and it's gonna make you feel better and the whole
nine yards. Rita Hikenfeld always a pleasure, great information her
website about eating dot com. We can't tell you how
much we appreciate all the time you've been spending with
us this spring.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well, I enjoyed it, and I hope to see a
lot of folks at Nathorpe today. I'll be there from
ten thirty to twelve.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
You've got an Athorpe nursery island. Thank you, Rita. Coming
up next, Peggy Montgomery. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:51):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that tell Free number eight hundred eight two two five five.
You know, whenever we talk about Bob's you know who
we go to. She's our bulb expert. They have an
absolutely wonderful website. It's Flowerbulb dot e you ladies and gentlemen.
It's the one, the only, Miss Peggy and Montgomery. Good Morgan,

(23:17):
how are you?

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I'm great, Ron, how are you?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I am doing wonderful. Before we get started talking about
our Bulb of the Year this year, designated by the
National Garden Bureau, I want to ask you a question.
We were just talking about our herb expert, Rita Hikenfelder.
Are you a big herb grower?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (23:35):
I am crazy big herb grower. I grow. There's only
two of us living here. I grow about ninety bushels
of basil.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Really, so you like, like jeez, so you do you
grow sage?

Speaker 6 (23:49):
I do?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Okay? Just that's that was our herb of the day
to today with sage, and we were just curious, Now
you celebrate Thanksgiving and the turkey and all that stuff, right, yep?
Do you call it stuffing or dressing?

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Oh? Great, I think I call it stuffing.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Now you put yourself you call it. Do you put
it in the turkey or do you do it in
a pan? Separate? Okay? And there's never enough exactly, especially
if there's gravy. Yeah, there's great gravy to put on it. Well,
we were talking about that. If it's stuffing, it's truly
in the turkey. If it's dressing, that's right, that's truly

(24:28):
done in the pan because it's on the side, so
it'll be dressing.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah. I had a great, big herb garden, and this
past year we kind of were trying to simplify a
little because we're getting old and we kind of so
we put that away and I'm doing them now in
big containers. Oh yeah, and so I have I have less,
but it's still great to cook with fresh herbs, and
I freeze a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I've got to. I got if you're doing the sage,
sometime pick a few leaves, rinse them off, dry them,
and then deep fry them. Just fry them a little
bit in olive oil till they're crispy, oot sea salt
on top, and you've got sage chips. They are outstanding.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Oh that sounds so good, run so.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Be sure chanting. That's all from our good friend at
Rita Hikenville. But anyway, she's our herbalist, and she tells
she gives the shares all kinds of interesting herbal information
and recipes as well. But we've got you as our
flower ballback spurt. And today we're going to talk about
every year the National Garden euro Picks Ball of the
Year Perennial of the year with annuals all that this year,
the twenty twenty five Ball of the Year happens to

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be one of my most favorite annuals. And of course
it's kalladiums, and man kalladiums have been around a long time,
but you look at what's available with kalladiums today, it
is crazy.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
It is crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Ron.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
The breeding work that's being done is outstanding. There is
every color pattern, everything you could think of, and even
some of the newer varieties can take more sun.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, and that's because we've all always done obviously, the
kaladiums in the shade or a shade lover or a
little bit of morning sun, but they just can't stand
that hot afternoon sun. But now we're getting the plant
breeders trying to come up with some newer selections that
will actually tolerate more sun, and I think that's going
to be a great thing as well. If you're not
familiar with kaladiums, it has that big heart shaped leaf

(26:18):
usually all kinds of veins of different colors, white, the white,
and Green's always been one of my favorites, that particular pattern.
But you got the reds and the pinks and the
greens and whites and all kinds of colors within that
heart shaped leaf. And of course there are some that
have more of a little bit of a serrated leaf too.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
Yeah, Ron, I'm kind of with you. The green and
white are my favorite too. But this year my husband
put these sort of reddish oranges in a great big
hanging basket and I'll tell you what, they're just stunning.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And some folks that know what kaladiums are are probably
saying right now, hanging basket and you know what, I
never thought about. I'm grown them in containers, but not
in hanging baskets. That would make a really cool hanging basket.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
It is. We have a hanging basket and it's kind
of in the shade. Like you said, it gets some
morning light but nothing in the afternoon. So it's got
the kalladium in there and some bogonias and monsterra you know,
house plants that been brought outside for the summer, and
it just looks remarkable, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Talking with Peggy and Montgomery, she is our bulb specialist.
The website is Flowerbulb dot Eed. You we're talking about kalladiums,
and of course kalladiums are a little bit different in
the fact that they are actually a bulb that you
you have to you know, they're not hardy in our
area at least I think it's hardly what zone nine.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
And ten maybe, yeah, exactly, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
But so you have to, you know, either dig them
up at the end of the season and store them
over the winter, or I think the way prices have
gotten on kalladiums anymore, if you if you've grown from
the bulb, they're cheap enough. You can also you can
kind of consider them a throwaway if you want to
and that message.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Yeah, I grow them as annuals. Yeah for sure. I
haven't had great luck keeping them over.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, they are a little bit picky as far as
rotting and things like that. So I'm with you one
hundred percent. And then you've got to start them inside early.
Why not let somebody else start them for you and
have them grow in and just go pick those up
and get them planted.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Yep, I'm with you absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I always agree with you, Peggy and Montgomery. So this
is a again, if you aren't trying to brighten up
that shade garden, kalladium's definitely the choice. What about rabbits and.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
Deer, You know, I have never had any trouble with
them at all. That they are poisonous, so you know,
that's something to think about if you have animals or
small children. You know, many plants in the garden are
and it's best just not to go around eating anything
in your garden. But they are poisonous, and so rabbits

(28:51):
and deer and everybody do stay away from them.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
And I don't know that I've ever experienced squirrels or
chipmunks ever digging up the ball.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
That's a good putt. You know what. I never thought
about that round, but neither of I.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
So you know, you get because a lot of times
you plant those balls that go and they dig everything up,
and in this case, not true. And I think the
thing that you have to remember about kalladiums don't plant
them too early in the spring season. They like warmer
temperature soil and air.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
Ron that is the most important thing to remember about
kalladium They're tropical plants and they do not like it
outside early when it's cold. And you know, I'm guilty
because I get excited and I buy them too early
and it really sets them back. And this year I
thought I was being such a good girl and I
didn't put them outside until May fifteenth, which is our

(29:44):
frost free date here in Delaware. But we have had
such a cold spring. They're still not loving it.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
No, and they'll sit tight and not do a whole
lot until that soil temperature starts to get up into
those seventies and the air temperatures consistently. They don't go.
They just kind of sit there and not do a
whole lot for a while.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
That's exactly what mine are doing. And We're hoping for
some sun and some warmer temperatures next week and then
they'll just go to town.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Talking about the twenty twenty five Ball of the Year
from the National Garden Bureau. That's kalladiums, and of course
they're known for that tropical folige and a tropical look
and of course the striking foliage with all the different colors,
love the shade. Newer varieties coming along to make them
a little bit more sun tolerant, which I'm looking forward
to that as well. Peggy and Montgomery are bulb specials.
We're gonna take a break, we come back. More questions

(30:33):
about growing kalladiums. Can you grow them indoors? Well, we're
gonna find out again. Check out the website flowerbull dot Eu.
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Speaker 1 (32:44):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson talking
summer flowering bulbs with our bulb expert Peggy and Montgomery.
Great website Flowerbulb dot e U. And today we're talking
about the twenty twenty five Ball of the Year from
the National Garden Bureau. Tropical plants that got that heart
shaped leaf elephant type ear shape leaf and of course

(33:06):
they're striking foliation. All types of different colors love the shade,
but they're working on newer varieties that'll start to handle
a little bit more sun as well. It is a
summer ball that if you want to go through this process,
you buy them in the spring, you start them in
the house, You put them in the ground once the
temperatures are about seventy degrees, consistently dig them up in
the fall, storm over, start the process all over. Or

(33:28):
you can do as Peggy and Montgomery and I do
and plant them as annuals.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yes, yes, I do. You know, I'll tell you what,
after the whole summer of gardening, I get a little
bit lazy in the fall, and I'm not interested in
doing all that extra work.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I'm with you one hundred percent. And I think you
also brought up a good point about being a little
more mature in the garden.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Yeah, getting a little older, maybe getting a little bit smarter.
But I use a lot of bulbs kind of as annuals.
There's you know, it's their price point really is indifferent.
You know, I go to the store and you know,
a premium annual at seven or eight bucks.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Sure, Oh you know even and we're not talking about roses,
but I mean even roses if you you know, if
they didn't come back at the end of the next year,
for what you pay for a potted rose, you know
that you pay for the hanging basket.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yep, you know. Just it's the exact same thing.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Plan it is an annual. Talking with Peggy and Montgomery,
we're talking about koladium bulbs and Khaladium's absolutely one of
my most favorite has been since I was in high school.
I love this one. Kladiums and colias are my two
favorite annuals. And of course they're all foliage colors.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Yo, that's wonderful. I really like colias too, and they're,
like you said, there is some new colors out there
that are just outstanding, and you can't kill them, and
they grow and grow and grow, and you can pinch
them back and by the end of the year you
just have this sheer, gorgeous plant. It's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I absolutely love them. Talking about kalladiums though, but and
again not only in the garden in the ground, but also,
as you mentioned, can be grown in containers. Do quite
nicely in containers and even in hanging baskets, which is
peggy and Montgomery is doing as well. So talk about kalladiums.
Can I bring them inside and grow them as a houseplant?

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yes. I was so excited when you said that because
it made me remember my nana, my nana greup kalladiums
indoors and their beautiful houseplants. They just need a lot
of bright indirect.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Light, bright indirect light and a great color. And I
don't know if you were able to attend to cultivate.
I think it was last summer in Columbus. Of course,
they're introducing now some of those varieties that are the green, red,
and white for Christmas kalladiums.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
I know, it isn't that interesting. A lot of the
kalladiums here in the United States are grown down in Florida,
and the are just doing some amazing things. And I
think it would be so pretty to have something to
go along with our point sets in our other Christmas decorations.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, and you know, we're you know, we're seeing the
hell of boris, the jacobs that white being used at
the holiday season, and you know, and and all of those.
And then I stood there and looked at those Christmas
cactus and of course I think of kalladiums as the summertime.
But the more I looked at that and said, you know,
you work that in with the Christmas tree and all
the other decorations around, and those colors they're out, and

(36:30):
those colors on those were spectacular. I mean they just
stood out. Yeah, which is a great way to really
brighten up a shady garden as well. But I looked
at that and said, yeah, I think I could get
used to that for Christmas.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Absolutely, And we usually do like some kind of a
living container on the Christmas table, you know, some live
plants for instance, you know, like I'll get you know,
inexpensive orchids, and boy wouldn't palladium look pretty with that?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Oh yeah, that'd be I'd be gorgeous. Absolutely, talk with
Peggy Amutgomery. Let me ask you real quick. For folks
that do want to go ahead and say, well, I
would like to try this, start those myself and grow
them through the season and overwin them. See if I
can get it to do that, you might as well
try it, right so you can say you've been there, right,
You've been there, done that. When you go to the
local garden centers to buy your kalladium bulbs.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Bigger better, that's generally the rule.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yes, So bigger is better. So if you go there,
you know, you can buy inexpensive ones that are you know,
an inch in diameter, or you can buy something that
cost you little bit more there, maybe three or three
inches in diameter. But those bigger bulbs are going to
give you more foliage and a better looking plant.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Yeah, and you know, dollar for dollar, it's really a better.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Buy, yeah, because from what you get out of it.
So you buy those and then starting them indoors. Obviously
we can do those in containers, get them in the
sunny windows so they've got bright sun, maybe a grow
light or whatever it may be. What We start those
sometime in April, so they're ready to go outside sometime
in mid to late May.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
Yeah, that's about right, you know, just anything you can
do to give them a head start and keep them
indoors until it really truly is warm. And you know,
like I said, this year, we've had a very wet
cold spring, so it's late for us. So just watch
the weather and just don't bother putting them out until
it warms up.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
All right. So if I'm planning a tool over daffodil bulb.
It's easy to figure it out because there's a point there,
point up, flat bottom to the bottom. What about kalladiums
because they're a flat disk looking bulb.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Yeah, you know what, All bulbs will sign their way up.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Ah, so we don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well, I mean that you can go ahead and I
usually plant them with the pointy side up. But honestly,
all of them know which way to go.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Well. But talking with Peggy and Montgomery talking about kalladiums,
and of course you can tell you there, have you
ever used those for a cut flower?

Speaker 6 (38:59):
I haven't, but boy, I know you're making me curious.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
You might want to.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
I should try that.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
They don't last all that long, but you can bring
those in, put them in one of those really narrow
like a test tube type voss They will hold up
for a little while anyway, to add a little bit
of something different there for you. So if you've got
extra kalladiums, you can use it for that one as well.
So all right, I got to ask you, there's all
these varieties that are out there, and maybe you don't
have a favorite, but is there one particular one that

(39:26):
you like? Or you just like them all.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
I do like them all, and I think, you know,
for those of us that have some shady areas, they
bring so much color and so much light. You know,
it's kind of a trick for landscape designers to put
something very light like that in the shade. They give
light and they really attract attention. It's a wonderful thing
to do. But maybe I'm old fashioned, but ron I

(39:53):
like the green and white ones.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I do too. I still think they're one of the best.
But there's so many great ones. But I'll tell you
in that green and white combination, I love frog and
a blender.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Yeah, isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
And for those folks that are listening, don't google frog
in a blender because you will go to websites that
you do not want to see a frog and a blender.
But that's what this is called. And that's what this
is called. Is frog in a Blender's been on about
what four or five years, and yeah, we've been growing.
It's really tough and durable, but I love it's a
little more green than the white, but it's and it's

(40:29):
different shades of greens. It's pretty interesting. But it's called
frog and a blender, and that's that's definitely become one
of my favorites out there. I love that one.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
It is and I'll tell you what, with a name
like that, everyone can remember it.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
You got it, Peggy and Montgomery. Always a pleasure. We're
talking about the twenty twenty five Ball of the Year
from the National Garden Bureau. Kalladiums and if you've got
a shade garden container, hanging basket morning sun protective from
that hot afternoon sun or morning shade or all day shade,
kaladiums are for you. They will brighten up and so

(41:04):
many great selections available for you as well. The key
is Peggy n said, plant them when it's warmed up outside.
They love the warmer temperatures. Always a pleasure, great information.
Go tend to your in pension. Keep those flowers off
of that basil.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
All right, Thanks, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Thanks, good talking to you, Peggy and Montgomery. And again the
website is flower bulb dot eu, so be sure and
check that out. We're gonna take a break at top
of the hour're coming back. We're gonna talk to a
good friend of mine. He's been on our show before.
Bill de Boor and Bill is from Woody Warehouse. It's
a it's a nursery in Indiana that specializes in growing

(41:43):
native plants. And Bill's been on with us several times
talking about what it takes to collect the seeds and
grow these native plants and they're just continuing to get
bigger and bigger all the time. And what's interesting to
help promote teaming up with local businesses to help promote
you know, being e eing friendly with your bees pollinator

(42:06):
polite out there in our area, the Cincinnati area. They're
going to be giving away free trees next week one
day for just a couple hours at one of our
local breweries, so you can go and have a brew
and have a get a free tree as well. We're
going to talk with him about that, talk about him

(42:26):
about a little bit about the native plants. But it's
going to be a quick interview. But even if you're
within an an hour's drive, it might be worth it
driving here because the brews are absolutely outstanding. And you
get a free tree, what kind of a tree, Well,
you're going to get a black in them. Yeah, and
those are great for pollinators. We'll find out why when
we talk to Bill and then of course, coming up
to the next half hour, we'll also have Gary Sullivan

(42:48):
with a little home improvement, and then of course at
the bottom of the hour Buggy Joe Boggs and who
knows what Buggy Joe Buggs is going to be talking about.
Don't forget our website, it's Ron Wilson online dot com.
We got all the Buggy Joe's posts on there. For
this week, we've got Rita's recipe or tips about sage.
Cicadas are back some tips about cicadas as well. My

(43:09):
plants of the week to outstanding compact growing, white flowering
hydrangees bobo and flowerful. Check them out. You're gonna absolutely
love them. It's all happening here in the Garden with
Ron Wilson.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
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