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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Good morning everybody. Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson. You're in
the garden. If you'd like to join us, love to
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(00:26):
bus seven fifty five hundred here at fifty five krc
DE talk station our toll free number eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five. Good morning. I am
Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about yard ding.
As we said you by the month of June. Can
you believe that? Uh and July moving right around the
July fourth weekend next weekend. I heard Joe and I

(00:49):
are talking earlier this morning on the news talking about
sixty million people driving driving next weekend, three day weekend
driving somewhere are for the fourth of July weekend. That's crazy.
So you know, hopefully if you're out there, they said
you may not be driving anywhere, you may wind up
just being stuck somewhere in traffic for the whole weekend.

(01:12):
So it's kind of crazy anyway. That's why I'm going
to stay at home, or stay close to home anyway,
and not get out with every out there and fight
all that traffic. Talking about yardig don't forget our website.
It's Ron Wilson on Yeah, Ron Wilson online dot com.
And just finished talking with Bill Debor talking about those
summer flowering native plants. And these are very nice plants.

(01:34):
These are plants that you, you know, sometimes folks say, well
some of the native plants, I'm not sure I want to.
These are super nice plants that you do one in
your landscape, you do one in your perennial gardens, you
do one in your mass plantings, maybe as border planting
or whatever. And these will help to service those pollinator
plants or pollinators as well as the butterflies as well

(01:56):
as the bees the whole nine yards. And it's a
great selection hot plant colors for summer thanks to Bild
de Boor and you can find out on our website.
Check it out at Ron Wilson online dot com. Reader's
recipe refrigerator pickles. Pretty easy one to do. And our
plants of the week would be happens to be bottlebrush
buckeye butterfly weed, which is also in the Bill's list

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and an honorable mention this week. Starting to come into
flower is golden rain tree. Always one of my favorites,
and as I told a story earlier, I remember planning
one when I was a teenager for my parents. Couldn't
believe it got this exotic plant called a golden rain tree.
Planted it this little area that I had created for them,
a little garden as I was starting my career in

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the plant business. The mud was in the blood at
that point, and my dad coming on the night and
saying where did you grub that thing out from? And
then that course, as it continued to grow, he enjoyed
the tree quite immensely. But anyway, that's that. Also one
last thing and we'll go to the guarding phone lines
on our website is all also a link for the

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buckeye tick test. If you by chance find a tick
attached to you, all right, and you safely remove the tick,
they are now offering a way to tell you what
the tick is and if by chance harbored any diseases,
because you know there's always that question. You pull that
thing off, you get rid of it, and then you're
you're curious, did I did I get anything from that? Well,

(03:24):
they can tell you, and the link is on our website,
Ron Wilson online dot com. Or if you go to
beagle b yg L dot o su dot e du
you'll learn all about it. They also have tics at
OSU dot e edu tics at os U dot e
d U. That is pretty darn cool, especially you know,
this seems like I've found a couple on me this year.

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I think about everybody I know has found some ticks
on them this year. So again, if you're concerned, it's
a great thing to do. I'm glad they came up
with this particular test. All right to the gardening phone lines,
we shall go to Newport Mary, Good morning to the
morning run.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I have a question.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I did buy some Shishieto pepper plants.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Good because I heard you talking about them.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yes, and so all the pepper plants I bought have
little flowers and some have little fruits on them. Should
I should I just clip all those off right now?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
How big is the plant, but you know, and let
me let me be back up. With pepper plants, I
typically don't do that. I will let them go ahead
and start the fruit. Even when they're at a smaller size.
That doesn't seem to slow it down much. They'll continue
to grow and fruit for you. If you want to,
you can now. I will do that with tomatoes early on.

(04:49):
I will do that with some flowering annuals early on,
pinch that out just to get them to uh make
a little better plant before they start fruiting or flowering
and fruiting. But with pepper, not quite so much of
an issue. But if you want to, you can. It's
just it's going to delay you by three or four
weeks as far as you know your next crop. So

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peppers I typically don't, but you could if you wanted to.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Gosh, I you know, I keep seeing these websites and
YouTube videos.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
That you need to cut those off.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
YEP. I found, like I said, I found with the peppers,
that's not necessarily true. And again you can, and that's fine.
A lot of folks will still I don't say a
lot some folks will still do that. But you know,
if they were really small, how big are the plants.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I didn't say.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
They're about maybe a foot and a half.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Oh, you're good. If you were telling me you know
these things are like still a little six inch eight
inch plants, I'd say, well that may be a different story,
but noah, twelve fourteen inches. You're good to go. I
for my personal opinion.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
If you say so, Ron, I'll go with your opinion.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
There you go. I appreciate it. And then now you
got to follow up where a follow up report on
how well they did?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Okay, I will let you know and enjoy.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
And enjoy those shashido peppers. Those are absolutely blistered and
eating like that are absolutely outstanding. Speaking of blister, let's
go to Alabama. Hair Old, Good morning, re Tide.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
My friend roll tied a long time. That's all.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, where you've been.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I just got back from San Francisco last night and
try to sell some out of fun.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
There you go. How's now, has things slowed down this
year or pretty strong?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
No? No, it's it's we're up about five percent from
last year, so we're happy with that. Well you're not green,
We'll take that. Sure. Remember when we talked about three
months ago, For some reason, the city of Hope gave
me that Lifetime Achievement award.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah. I never could figure out why they did that
me either.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
But we had our little little uh get together three
weeks ago. Ron we raised nine hundred and five thousand
dollars in one day.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Wow for City of Hope. Unbelievable, just incredible.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Had a lot of my friends in competitors who are friends,
and it just had five hundred people at VIA.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Then it sent out you know what you said that
it is fun to have folks that are in the
business that you're in a competitor and still be you know,
friends and communicate with each other. To me, it just
makes it. It makes it that business much. And I
think in our business, in the gardening industry, plan industry,
we all share information with each other. And I think

(07:42):
it's always been a great thing about this industry and
I think that's a great thing if you can have
friends as competitors.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Well, I actually had a competitor nominating for the award,
so that's that. I've been in business thirty two years.
So I was very honest Street Tests, had all my
family out, We're very nice evening.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Then I say, good for you, good for you. No,
I I kidded with you about why they did that,
but I know why they did that. I mean, what
you did is phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Well, I still, I still. I actually said that. While
I was giving the award, I said, was how many
people turned it down before you got to meet?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, now did you when you got up there, did
you say? Roll tied right off the bat?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Look here they gave me a trophy. And spontaneously I
picked up the trophy and I said, this is what
Nick Saban does when he wins the national championship. And
I held it above my head. I'll send you the picture. Impromptu, impromptu.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Okay, my carrots, I have Danver carrots. I plan they
grow well, but when I go to it's just like
a ball of carrots, not the individual carrots. It's like
a big up the side of a baseball.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
One carrot is the size of a baseball, or a
whole bunch of them grew together.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Instead, I'm assuming when you plant a carrot you get
three or four carrots off that stick your plant.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, just one?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
But oh okay, there's my answer.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You thin them out.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
It comes out like a ball. Okay, comes out like
a ball. Okay, I thought I would get several carrots.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, you thind them. You have to thind them out,
separate them out so that you have an individual like
a radish, So you have an individual carrot growing at
the base of that plant. And then what's funny is
when carrots kind of don't get the long is there
supposed to, or they get funny or deformed. If that
growing tip hits anything in the ground like a rock
or a hard soil or whatever, that'll cause it to mouth,

(09:49):
become malformed and not be there like it normally. Well,
that's why I always grow the shorties and that way
and a raise bet or a pot and that way
you're pretty much assured you're gonna get what you're growing.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Well, I put them in a grow bag, and what
I did is I field three quarters of the grow
bag up with just lee Leif's compost.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sure leif mode.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Then I put in some dirt because I wanted to
beat them not to have what you just describe something
to cause them not to continue growing. Right, I'll I'll
just keep only lock the Crimson Todd. I'll just keep
on drums.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Or could be Harold's softball carrots. And you can have
your own variety. There would be that big ball. So anyway,
good talking to you, my friend, and stay cool down
in Alabama. Quick break, we come back speaking of cool.
Gary Sulivan with a little home improvement Here in the
Garden with Ron Wilson hell.

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Speaker 1 (11:17):
Market counties for Thursday July to thirty first and five
thirty until nine in the evening. It's Bourbon and Blooms
with the friends of Boone County Arboretum. It's a ticketed event.
You get catered or nerves. There's gonna be an auction
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a speaking from doctor Harmony Bettenhausen for the James Bean Institute.

(11:38):
The more information or to get your tickets Bcarboretum dot org.
That's Bcarboretum dot org. Welcome back here in the garden
with Ron Wilson. Time for a little home improvement from
the man, the myth, the legend. He is the most
listened to home improvement show host on the entire solar system.
His website Gary Sullivan online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen,

(11:58):
the one, the only, Gary Culeiman.

Speaker 8 (12:03):
Mister Wilson, I'm going to assume you were not wearing
overalls this week, even though you said you had ticks
on your body, yep, and even though it was probably
ninety five degrees yep. That's just a wild guess on
my part.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Actually I had on long pants, but I did not
have on the overalls or anything like that. Today it's
the shorts here in the studio. So well it should be,
should be, man, I tell you what, looking at that,
I have to put the sunglasses on. Looking at that
red shirt, well it was the sun. It made it
more red, okay, telling you what it used to be?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Pink?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Wow, got a little hot.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Out, yes it has. What has that done to our
concrete and our black top and our pain in our shingles?

Speaker 8 (12:53):
It probably uh, you know, for the the diehards that
we're going to get that project done no matter what.
I hope they read the directions on the products, talked
about limitations in temperature or you probably wasted a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Of product, could have a lot of evaporation going on. Well,
you know, And you know what's funny is the same
way within the in the gardening business. I obviously you
can cause serious problems spraying with some of the chemicals
out there if you if you know, need be during
the excessively, you know, you get above eighty eighty five degrees,
not a good thing. And what's interesting is with and

(13:28):
I think I told you this last year, which is
an interesting fact that you know on the label of
weed killers, like to go through your lawn and spot
treat for some weeds right now, which you can do,
but you don't want to do it when it's extremely hot,
and they'll tell you on the label. But it's also
better to do it when it's not extremely hot. Not
because of the what of the toxicity it could burn
the plants or whatever or your turf. The fact that

(13:49):
we don't want it to dry too fast, yeah, now,
is that because if it does, if it dries too fast,
it doesn't get absorbed into the weed and have as good.
So I guess that would apply of like doing some
things that we're applying for home improvement.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
Well, think about this, I talk about the wedd and forget.
To get black streaks off of roofs or mildew off
of you know, driveways and things like that, it's easy.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
You spray it on.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
You never have to scrub it.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
In six weeks it's gone.

Speaker 8 (14:16):
Well, I hate to tell you, but if that roof
is probably now about one hundred and twenty five degrees
and you spray that on there in the middle of
the day, and had you read the directions that'll talk about.
You know, you can spray any time, but if it's
cloudy and you do it early in the morning, that's
perfect because a minimalizes evaporation. And you know a lot

(14:39):
of us aren't going to read that.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
The same thing's true.

Speaker 8 (14:42):
You just that product never gets a chance to really
get in there and work. So take intention. I mean,
those instructions are there for a reason and it's usually
save you money.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
So if if in in case of like the wedt
and forget, if I apply that in the morning when
it's nice and cool, but by the afternoon it's a
to ninety five degrees, I'm still good to go.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, it'll be absorbed by you know,
the fungus, et cetera. You know it, it's fine, But
if you spray it on, aren't twenty degree roof with
a blazing sun on there? You think about how fast
a that roof's gonna drive it rained? You know, same
kind of thing. So yeah, just read the directions, whether

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you're painting or anything.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Guess what I did while you were vacationing. You did
the deck I did. I know, I didn't the news flesh.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I got a notification.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I didn't stain it yet, but I cleaned it and
I actually I cleaned it and I actually used one
of those you buy those little square scrub brushes with
a long handle. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. I
got that down. And then ron Ron was out there
cleared off everything and scrubbed that bad boy down.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
Did you get any points?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
No from points? No? Did you do it on the
hot time of the day. It was pretty warm when
I was doing it.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Put a bandana on.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Nah, I like the sweat.

Speaker 9 (16:02):
Did you did you?

Speaker 8 (16:03):
I mean, did you soak through all your clothes. Oh absolutely, Pandana,
and you were a little muddy.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
And I wasn't muddy, but I was so funny.

Speaker 8 (16:10):
Can you give me a big jug of water?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You didn't do any of that?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, I did not do that.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
That's we both laughed.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, I know, but I scrubbed. It's amazing. I scrubbed
that down. And it was how that would change colors?
Oh yeah, phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
Yeah, well so many people I see it, they do,
you know, I always say it. You know you've heard
me say it. Preparation is the key to success.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
And just think about it. If you didn't remove that,
or you just removed half of that dirt in that film,
how good you think that deck sealer would penetrate when
you get around to doing that.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Not so well? It was algae on there too, Yeah,
I mean because I hadn't used we forget this spring.
It's just I just let it go because I was
going to clean it. Yeah, and I mean the water
was even kind of green.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
I'm just some of those talks about this for about
six years.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, I know, Well I've cleaned it before, I just
never took it the next step.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, it's that next one.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, and that's coming up. But then it's been so hot, Gary,
I have used that for an excuse to not go
out and stay the door.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
Well, and there's so many choices on deck sales. I'm
not talking just brands, but you know, do you want
you know, can you get a solvent based dex healer,
Can you get a modified oil and acrylic? Can you
get just in acrylic? What works best? Et cetera, et cetera.
And it really it depends on what There's nothing that's perfect,

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otherwise we wouldn't always.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Be besides you, besides you, all right, have fun talking
about home improvements.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I will.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I know you always do. Gary Sullivan website, Garysullivan online
dot com. Coming up next, Buggy Joe Boggs Here in
the garden with Ron Wilson.

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talk station. Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson.

(20:04):
Don't forget our website Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson as well. Lots
of good info and lots of plant suggestions on there
this week for you as well that you might want
to consider, including quite a few summer flowering native plants
that look nice in your landscape, perennial beds, and of
course border planting, screen plantings, whatever it may be, be

(20:28):
sure and check it out at Ron Wilson online dot com.
And as I promise, it is time for the Buggy
Joe Boggs Report. That would be Joe Boggs, who happens
to be an Assistant Professor of Commercial Holder trajedtor for
the Ohio State Universe Extension OHHU Department of Entomology, poster
boy for Oshue Extension. Their website is byg L dot
OSU dot e edu. Ladies and gentlemen, Mister common sense

(20:50):
call himself Buggy Joe Boggs. Good morning, kind.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Sir, Good morning, Good morning boy. What a day. You
know the rain that we had off and on spotty
has really been helpful with these temperatures spotty, off and
on spotty. Yeah, I yes, I put the uh yeah,

(21:17):
I put the comment in there at the wrong place,
didn't I.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, yeah you did.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
That's all right, Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's like reminds
me of the books. You know that the book about
Pandas you know Pandas Eat Shoots and leaves. That's the
name of a book.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Great.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yes, yes, we're play off the I think, you know,
we gotta gotta get bring things back, you know, I
got to say things like roll Tide and War Eagle
and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
What did Harold say?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
They raised nine hundred million? What was that?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Four million? He's he is incredible, Well, it's you know
he is. He got an award last year. I mean
he's been championing this for the city, I hope for years.
And that we're talking about serious, serious bucks that he is.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Uh why now, yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
And uh yeah, I told him if he got Gary
Sullivan involved, he could take it over that next step.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
You know, man, I tell you we're talking big box.
That's yeah. Actually, I mean, you know he was just
saying so nonchalantly, didn't he Oh yeah, I was listening.
I was thinking, you know, and he said, yeah, we
raised some some money. I was like what I mean,
you know, it's like, wow, that was pretty incredible. Yeah,

(22:32):
So okay, in honor of Harold, I'm going to say
it all. I got to do it. Yeah, I mean
I just that's yeah, he said.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Do you hear what he said? When he gave him
the little award that they gave him, he held it
up over his hand. But you know what, I was
disappointed though that he didn't find you out. Figure go
ahead after that to say, and I want to dedicate
this to Buggy, Joe Boggs and Ron Wilson.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
You know, true, I mean actually in your name first,
I mean true, that's that was well, I tell you, yeah,
now that you say that, that sort of rained on
every all of our parades. Yeah, I doubt that. Well,
let's us keep that between us, right, you know, we
don't want to herold to hear that rain on the

(23:20):
parade and all that. Yeah, yeah, so this was really uh.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Were talking about showers that moved through that really didn't
accumulate the much.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know, it was really interesting. And this is gonna
be one of those one of those times where we're
gonna have to really be paying when I say localized attention. Now,
we got we had a very We had two very
serious downpours. The second one, uh was was Oh man,
I mean we probably well, look we have a little
pond in the back. It totally started overflowing, which you know,

(23:53):
probably meant that we got about an inch in just
a little short while. But I'm quite certain down the
road they got nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well weal, they got nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
We got nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
You and Gary and myself were in that same front line,
separated by about five or six miles, and we got
the two fronts that came through. The first one wasn't much,
if I remember. The second one had a pretty good downpour,
but again it was you know, I didn't look at
the ring gaze to see, but I don't think it

(24:28):
was that much. But I don't think we got an inch.
But it was a nice little shower the second one.
But what bothers me every time that happens is, I
know folks can confuse and say, oh, that was a
pretty nice shower. I don't have to water.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Well, that's right, that's exactly right. Did you use the
finger test? That's uh my wife, well, you know we
put your finger in the ground, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
that's a yes, or orde to the old you know
where you look your finger and hold it up in
the air to see which why the wind's blowing. It

(24:59):
never work for me. Yeah, but anyway, uh no, it
you're exactly right, ron. I did check after the second
one because you know, I was thinking I might need
to be watering some of the vegetables. And the first one,
you're exactly right. I mean, it just it just made

(25:19):
the surface of the soil. Ye human. Yeah, but you
know you're you're right. You cannot be just doing a little,
you know, just a little bit of digging just to
see where things are. I mean, I I contend that
every serious gardener ought to have a soil probe. They're

(25:41):
not that expensive. And that's actually, truthfully what I use
all the time, not just you know, I said, use
a finger test, But a soil probe keeps your hands
a little cleaner, and you can just sink that into
the ground and pull out a core and just see
how deep the moisture is infiltrated.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Or if you can't take it into the ground, then
you know you're in trouble.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Then you hammer. If you need a hammer to put
it in the ground, you're exactly right.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Well.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
And also, and there's a nice segue here, also, you know,
if you have a soil probe, you can more easily
do something that we recommend all the time, and and
you know people do or don't follow through. And we
did a we I posted and along with several other

(26:32):
my extension colleagues, a fact sheet soul testing for horticultural
needs all right, And admittedly it's a little more Ohio
oriented because at the end we have a list of
soil testing labs that you could contact, and yes they're
more focused around Ohio, but the rest of it can
apply anywhere in the United States. And then just just

(26:57):
yesterday you talk about hot off the press guidelines for
choosing a soil analytical laboratory. So we have a list
in our fact sheet that is co authored with our
good friend Gary Gal with OSU Department of Horticulture and
the o ISSU South Centers. And then this fact sheet.

(27:18):
Jerry's the elite author and it helps you. Then you know,
when you're looking for having soil tested, you know what
are some of those things when you are looking for
a lab to have it done you should be looking for.
So these two companion fact sheets are out there, and
like I said, the choosing a lab was just posted
yesterday on ohio Line. So to find them, all you

(27:41):
have to really do is just one word ohio line
and that will take you right to this where we
have fact sheets posted. And then of course, obviously, since
you're looking for something with soil, you click on the
tab that says horticulture. Although there's also a tab called
sex and pass and I think that's even far more

(28:02):
important than anything else in that entire ohio Line posting.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm surprised it's not even highlighted, you know, bold letters
and a yellow highlighting behind it or whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I've been trying to get that for years. We might
have to have a write end campaign or something like that,
because it's a But at any rate, those two fact
sheets go right with having a soil prob because that
allows you to pull out these soil plugs to send
in very easily. Makes it. I mean, it really makes

(28:34):
it easy, doesn't it. But the big deal, The big
deal though, is, like I said, assessing moisture levels in
the soil, Like you just said, assessing compaction. You know,
if you have an area like we have grown up
in West Virginia, we parked our cars in the front yard, right,
I look back.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Wheels, Yeah, got parked in front.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
There you go. But soil compaction you can check for that.
And also, you know, you might be surprised if you
go around in your landscaping in newer homes or even
homes from the seventies, you know. And I'm just I'm
kind of picking seventies on right. I'm not saying seventies

(29:18):
or newer homes, but I'm just saying, that's about the
time where we start seeing a lot of soil getting
shoved around during development, right. I mean it happened before,
but truly after the seventies and eighties, nineties and up
to the now, you know, we often see a lot
of re reterra forming going on, just a lot of
changes in the soil and so that means you're probably

(29:40):
if you're in a development, you're you're not sitting on
native soil at all. It's been shoved around, moved around,
and so it's not a bad idea, you know, to
just go around your yard and you know, ground your
landscape and just use the soil pro pull out, see
what you have. Because we have a thing, and I
mean I've heard this, you know, let the soil choose

(30:03):
the tree. Let the soil choose the plant, instead of
us choosing a plant and trying to get it to
do well under conditions that that plant can't do well.
And so that means you're looking to see if the
soil is compacted, if it's poorly drained or good drainage.
And of course the sol tests will tell you what

(30:23):
the pH is that soil. And you know, in Iron
area the country we tend to have, the pH is
a bit towards the high side, what we call the
alkalin side, whereas a lot of plants that we would
love to grow, like acidic soil. Right, I'd love to
grow rhododendrons. I was just in northeast Ohio a month ago,
and oh my gosh, you know, huge rhododendrons because they

(30:46):
have more aspidic soils. And so that's very important because
how many times and you, I'm sure had it happen.
Here you're talking to somebody and you're telling you about, well,
you know, for some reason, my hollis they're just see through,
you know, the leaves are dropping off and they're just
not you know, and you always say, well, that's good.

(31:06):
They'll stand up in a heavy wind, they won't blow over,
right because of.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
That allows for better air circulation.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
It does, it does, but you know, you know in
your head what's going on. That's the wrong place for
a holly. It's the wrong place for a lot of
different plants. So that kind of got a little carried
away there. It never happened.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
That never happens. That's the first. So we'll let it
pass this time. Talking with Buggy Joe Boggs again bygl
dot OSU dot eed you quick break, we come back.
We'll finish up with Buggy Joe Boggs here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.

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(32:34):
the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Joe Boggs. I wish you
extension website bygl dot osu dot eedu. You know you
were talking about that the probe and the soils and
all and tough time of the year, trying to figure
out when the water when not the water, et cetera,
et cetera. And I had a gentleman last week send
me a picture of dog with they had planted back
in April, and he said you know, we've planted it,

(32:55):
we've been watering as you instructed, et cetera, et cetera,
and the leaves have just been laying down, just wilted down.
It hasn't lost any leaves. They're just limp. And he said,
I don't know what to do at this point. So
I said, if you got a moisture meter, yeah, I said,
go out and just put it in the in the
root ball and put it in the soil on the
next to the root ball the backfill. Tell me what
it says. Send me a picture of the root ball,

(33:17):
you know, the top where you planted it as well.
He did it, and both things said wet. And he
hadn't watered it for three or four days. And here
was a situation where the soil was I told him
go ahead, and I said, dig down beside it and
tell me what you find. He said, I got down
about four inches and it was solid water. And there's
a situation where he pulled it out and the whole

(33:39):
bottom of the hole was filled with water. And he
had watered in three or four or five days, and
the soil was so complained that it couldn't drain. It
was not percolating at all, and that that tree was
just sitting in water.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
That's uh yeah, that's something that in fact I had.
I had two questions this past week. One was what
was on a Viburnum winter third VI Burnham, which we
also have two in our backyard, which I'm just lovely Viburnum.
I love the leaves and a rate. Yeah. Now, if
it if it becomes too dry, and this is based

(34:18):
on personal experience from last year, if it becomes too dry,
the tips of the leaves start turning you know, black,
very very fast. And it's actually true on a lot
of the viburnums and a few other plants. Now, if
this is happening on something like you know, like a
dog would for example, typically if they have a problem,

(34:41):
and I want to be very delivered here, we call
physiological leaf scorch. And the cause is just is very simple.
The plant cannot maintain enough water going to those leaf
cells to keep them alive. And that's it. That's all
you can really say. With certain plants, you know, the

(35:02):
scorching is kind of brown. That's dog wood, you see
brown along the edges. With others, it can become blackened
and that makes you think, well, maybe there's a disease.
But at both ends of the moisture spectrum you can
see the same things. Fact, what you just said, if
it is too dry, you have water enough, you'll get

(35:24):
leaf scorch. But what about the too wet end of
the scale. And you've talked about this before, and we
both talked about it before, and that is first what
happens is, since the roots have to get oxygen from
the soil and they don't have gills, if the soil
is water logged. For many plants, with few exceptions like

(35:46):
bald cypress and a few you know that are adapted
to wet soils, for many plants, the root cell start
for the roots start first shutting down. They just simply
they just cannot pull in water, water, water everywhere, but
not a drop to drink. So that's the first step.
If then the soil dries out, well, then no harm,

(36:07):
no foul, and you may not even notice it because
you won't get scorch at that point. However, if the
if the soil remains wet over an extended period of time,
you get exactly the same leaf scorch as you would
with the soil being dry. So that then leads to
what I mean, you the perfect you what you recommended,
and I bet you suspected newly planted, right. But whenever

(36:31):
you're newly planted and you ask, you say, well, tell
me about your watering. Oh, I'm watering it, you know,
like every ten minutes. Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, honestly,
people they wanted to survive. But then along the way,
as you just pointed out, it may be the soil
inherently it's heavy clay just doesn't drain very fast, or

(36:53):
like you said, it could be compacted. And there's a
way to learn about that. You know, when we're digging
our holes to plant something, I always tell people, you know,
when you're digging that nice hole, you know, start with
the whole. It's about size of a gallon jug, a
gallon milk jug. Fill the gallon milk jug, though full
of water. This is why you want to make the

(37:13):
whole the same size. Now you need to have the
soil moist. You don't want to sold to be dried
and cracked to do what on what we're gonna recommend
people do. So you want to sold to be a
moist around it, and you pour that gallon in When
you do it, you start looking at your watch and
I always I know it sounds funny and if people
can see it, I'm demonstrating it. I always pour it

(37:34):
with my left hand because that's where my watch is.
And as soon as I'm pouring, you know, I'm looking
at my watch and you start to countdown. As soon
as you feel that gallon hole full of water. If
you can come back three days later and there's fish
in it, you have very poor drainage, right, Yeah, it

(37:55):
should be. It should a good drainage. It should start
draining immediately. You should start with your watch. If it's
drained out in a minute to three minutes, you've got
pretty good drainage. If it takes over an hour, then
you've got to figure something out there. Uh, either plant
something that can take it, or you know, look a

(38:15):
way to modify around that. You might elevate, you may
you know, cut channels away so the water can drain.
I mean, there's a lot of different things you can do,
but the point but it's just important to do something
because you know that that dog would would not make it,
would it. I mean it bell killed with kindness.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, it was hanging in there as best it could,
you know, just drowning and a yeld or anything. The
leaves were just hanging down. Was like somebody saved me here.
So we did. We pulled it, pulled it out, let
it dry out, and uh, we're gonna do the old
asterisk thing. We're cutting like a line through it to
get it to drain away from that hole. And there
you go and channel it out and then go from there.

(38:58):
But you know, again, if you've got a new home,
you never planted there before, do what we were talking
about here, to see how well your soil dreams before
you do anything investing in trees or shrubs or whatever
may be. You may be surprised how well it doesn't drain.
Buggy Joe Boggs. Always a pleasure again byg l OSU
dot edu. Talk to you next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
You have a great week, Ron take care of my
Bye bye bye.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Thanks all of our colors, Thanks to our sponsors, Thanks
of course to Joe Strecker, our producer, because without Joe,
this show wouldn't go. Now, do yourself a favor, go
out there and figure out where you're going to continue
to plant those trees two or three or four yet
this year, keep planting those native plants and native selections.
Pamp for your worms, Be friendly, be pollinator polite, get
the kids and dogs involved with guarding, and by all means,

(39:41):
make it the best weekend of your life. See you.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
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