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Our toll free number eight hundred eighttwo three eight two five five. Good
morning. I am Ron Wilson,your personal yard boy, talking about yardning.
Oh it is hot, hot,hot, it's back again. I'll
tell you what. It's very hotthis morning. Well was very hot yesterday,
but the humidity wasn't there. Butthen it's there now. You open
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up the door this morning at fouro'clock to walk out to the truck,
and you had to punch your wayout of the door through the humidity to
get to the truck. I meanthat's the way. It was eighty three
degrees here in Cincinnati this morning alreadyeighty three degrees. I don't know what
the humidity is, but it's horrible, and it's it's up. It's what
it felt like. And I'm notkidding. He was like walking into a
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piece of Sarayan wrap. It waslike, you're like, no, you
gotta be kidding me. But yesterday, actually I took the day off and
trying to get caught up on theWilson planting getting the rest of our flowers.
Planet had been sitting in pots forthe last three weeks because I just
haven't had time to plant. AndJoe took the day off yesterday and Joe
was on todayday and today. Sowith no cup of Joe, you're stuck
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with the Danny and me for thefirst fifteen minutes or so. Of course,
that means it'll be on time thistime, Dan, Yeah, that
means I won't be panicking trying tofit everything in at the last minute.
Yeah, trying to work it allin. So at least we got that
covered. But I here, Iam trying to plant and it was it
was hot. I mean it wasjust but it wasn't It was hot,
but it wasn't that bad humidity wisein this morning. Did that change in
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a hurry? Now? Supposedly lookingat the forecast, there is a chance,
pretty good chance of rain showers andthunderstorms in our area today, tonight
and maybe tomorrow morning. We'll takeit. We had a great rain shower
that came through earlier this week.I mean, we're dry, all we're
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dry, and rayshower came through.It varied obviously where you lived, but
we had a really nice, steadydownpour for probably twenty five minutes, and
it did get in it soils thatare prepped, like like landscape beds and
vegetable guards in that really soaked itin now the yard. I went out
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later on after that happened and hitwith the old square spade, just kind
of tinged. It actually got inthere just a tad, But you know,
we'll take it. And it helpedto replenish a little bit of the
ponds that we're starting to get littlebit low. So we'll take that.
Wasn't what we're hoping for, butwe'll take it. But again, I
just want to remind you and Ihave been the last couple of weeks talking
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with folks that are having trees andevergreens and shrubs that were planted last year
or two years ago or this springthat all of a sudden are just up
and turning brown, just all ofa sudden up and losing leaves in the
middle, all of a sudden,just dropping looking horrible. You know,
it's been dry, and you cannotcount on this thing that came through.
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I think it was Wednesday, Eventhough I think Ron Roth has said he
got eight tenths of an inch orso, you can't count on that as
being part of your watering. Forthe one inch of rainfall every seven to
ten days for established plants and everyother day or whatever. For the newly
planted trees and shrubs, you can'tcount on that. That's a bonus.
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So don't ever count on the showersunless unless they last, like you know,
half a day to a full daysoaking shower. That's a different story.
And even with that, even withthat, you still want to go
out and checked newly planted trees andshrubs to see how much actually was able
to work its way into that areawhere you have planted and into the immediate
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root ball. So many times itmay moisten the soil around it, but
did it actually penetrate the root ballof the newly planted tree or shrub?
A lot of times it doesn't.But right now I'm getting pictures. I
have one in front of me becauseI brought it as a reminder of someone
who had planted a sycamore several yearsago. I say, I think it's
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I say, several two years ago. Right, So this is going into
its third season and still young,still small, and has about a twelve
fourteen inch mault ring around the bottomof it and starting to lose turn brown
in the middle, and you don'twant to know what it was a disease,
What is the disease, What isthe insect that's causing this? And
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it's still amazing to me the folksthink it's a disease or an insect when
you know, just looking at itin the way the leaves are starting to
brown, you could tell it's alack of moisture. And of course,
when you're talking sycamore, where doyou normally see Now, they'll take they'll
take, you know, regular soils, they'll take drier soils once established.
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But where do you normally see themgrowing. You see them a lot of
long the creek banks and river banks, and where they get a you know,
just a little bit of extra moisture, they like that and they'll grow
in other situations, but they mayhave to get established. And you know,
a two or three year old treeis still not established. And even
to that, even established trees canstill suffer from the drought. But you
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know, it was like, no, we don't, we haven't watered it.
We you know, we started wateringit when we started to see some
of the yelling on the inside.Well, by the time you start to
see the yellowing on the inside,it's already some of the damage has already
happened. It's already starting to react. And when you water plants, it's
not like you getting an iv andfeeling better the next day when you're rehydrated.
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Doesn't work that way with plants.It takes time. Now, obviously,
getting it to the plant, gettingit up in the plant helps to
put things on hold. I mean, it puts a stop to it.
But the damages have already started.For deciduous plants, plants that lose their
leaves in the fall and over thewintertime, they can recover from things like
this a lot easier than evergreens.Get an evergreen right now, all of
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a sudden, you're starting to seeit lose its color, starting to turn
brown. Uh. And it's andif it's from the drought, Uh,
probably too late. It's a realgood chance you're not gonna save that.
That's where you've got to be proactivewhen it comes to waterring, based on
what the you know, the therainfall schedule has been and how of course
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how long the plant's been in etcetera, et cetera. But you got
to stay proactive about it. Youcan't just wait for it to start to
show you signs and then start thewater. Doesn't work that way. Now
again you can You'll save the you'llsave the deciduous plants for the most part,
but evergreens, that's pretty darn tough. And sometimes you know, you
just can't explain why one in agroup of five, six or seven or
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two, or you got a rowof ten, you lost three. How
does that happen? They're all plantingin the same area, same soil.
I water them the same every day. Trust me. It happens in front
of our landscape office, an entrance. We did it. We did a
planting last fall, new planting,and I've been giving it minimal watering,
but watering as needed, and everything'slooking pretty good. And then all of
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a sudden, about ten days ago, one of the junipers of several masses
of plants through there to give alot of different texture and a lot of
different plants to see in this hugeplanting. But in this grouping of five,
and they're a golden juniper, andI can't think of the name of
what they were, a newer selection. Trying to see what they look like
as they grow, one just dumpand turn brown. And there's a situation
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where they're all the rest of themlook great. Everything else in that entire
bed looks great. One didn't makeit all of a sudden, just dump
and turn brown, all getting wateredexactly the same way. How do you
explain that? I can't. Andthey pulled out of the ground fairly easily,
hadn't really started to root in much. But it's like, you know,
they are all exactly the same.You know, you line five of
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us up and treat us all thesame way. People, you know we're
not all going to react the sameway, and plants are going to be
the same. So that does happen. I mean, it does happen,
But the kicker is trying to makesure that you are staying ahead of the
game watering as we're getting starting tosee these drought situations or seeing these dry
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situations, rather than waiting for theplant to start to show a problem before
you start to do this right.So many times they don't recover, especially
the evergreens, the plants probably sowith the sycamore tree, you know it's
going to recover. I mean thatleaves on the end of the branch is
so far still there. It's allthe stuff on the inside that it had
lost, so I think we'll recover, and there's always a good chance to
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Sometimes they'll pop out a second setof leaves. If not, you'll make
it through the summer, get itthrough the winter, and hopefully get back
together in the spring. The otherthing to remember is this, if you
this does come up and then allof a sudden, you start watering and
you're you know, you say,oh my gosh, you start to turn
yellow, I'm starting to lose someleaves. You start watering and you haven't
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been watering before, not watering verymuch, and you realize you need to
really soak this thing. Soak it, even though it's losing those leaves.
Soak it, let it get closeto dry, soak it. So many
folks will overreact and then all ofa sudden water it every day to try
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to bring it back out of what'shappening. Will you just make it worse
in most cases, because what happensis now you're keeping everything soaking wet.
And if the police the plan isn'table to take up as much as transpiring
as much, et cetera, etcetera, you start to cause a route
decline. We probably lose I don'tknow. I couldn't give you a percentagese.
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But when it comes to hydrangeas,especially newly planet hydrangeas, the first
couple of years is tough. Ifthey have sun at all in the mid
day or afternoon, you know,they cannot take up enough moisture from the
ground to supply the moisture that's beinglost through the leaves transperation. And you
know you can give them good soaking. There's good moisture in the ground,
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they just can't take it up fastenough. And then at nighttime, when
everything cools down, the sun goesdown, the plant perks right back up
again. And this morning you lookat it looks great, but by two
o'clock in the afternoon, it's allwilted down. And so what do we
do. We overreact and we startwatering it every day. I'm pushing the
water to it. I'm watering itevery day. It's soaking wet out there,
but it still doesn't perk back up. Well, you just keep doing
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that. Next thing, you know, you've rotted the roots out and it's
not going to perk up because youjust took the root system out as well.
It gets very confusing. It's sohard to explain to people. It's
tough, there's no doubt about it. But I think the thing to remember
is this. You got to watchthe weather. You got to realize when
we're starting to get into a droughtsituation. You got to realize which plants
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need it more than others. Whenit comes to watering, you've got to
remember to soak it well. Don'tbe a tease. Let it get close
to dry. Soak it well.It may still react a little bit because
of the heat, and you stillmay get a couple of leaves here and
there, little drop or whatever.But keep with your watering. Soak it
close to dry, soak it,check the immediate root ball. Use a
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moisture meter can really help you out. Stick your finger down there. Does
it need to be water? Doesit not need to be watered? Is
it just the afternoon sun it's causingus to happen. It's kind of tricky,
there's no doubt about it, especiallythose first couple of years three years
with new plants. But you cando it, but it just takes a
little more time. I still remembersomebody will take a break here, and
I don't want to be like Joe, keep taking it off forever. Thank
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you. I still remember a coupletold me one time, said, you
know what we were anticipating planting ourWe planted our landscape according to how much
time we wanted to spend in theyard maintaining it. We didn't realize how
much time it took to water itas we're getting it established, and it
does take a lot of time.Got to make sure you commit to that.
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yard ning at eight hundred eight twothree eight two five five, Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personalyard boy. It is hot outside
today, very human, good chanceor rainfall today? Boy, I hope
we get that. But remember rememberwhat I've said, that's amazing. I
mean, people continue to sit it. I know, I know, I
know. Rainfall is a bonus.Don't count on it. It's a bonus.
Keep watering as needed. And that'sexactly right to Northern Kentucky. Would
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go Steve, Good morning, Goodmorning, Ron. How are you saying
I'd like to talk about liberty teathis morning if I could indulge me?
Okay, right, because we knowwhat's right around the corner. Independence Day
is coming up fast, yep.And there are there are teas that I
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call my liberty tees. The monardaspecies most noteworthy are the wild Birdnarta fast
julusa and the bee bomb Monarta didema. I also have Bradberry's Monarta, but
it's not blooming now. If youlook at those flowers visually, they look
just like fireworks, which reminds meof the Fourth of July. You're right.
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But more importantly, they were usedby the settlers. After the Boston
Tea Party and we no longer weregetting in the Chinese tea the what Camellia
sinensus or whatever it is, theblack and green tea. They went to
native wild teas. The the monartaswere a big one. The monarta is
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not only pretty pretty, but it'salso a very healing tea. It's carmentaives
out of your stomach, so ifyou've got a bedcase of the flatulence,
that can help with that. It'sdiaphoretic, so it's a peeper reducer.
It's good for cold headache, sourceroot, et cetera. It's got bergamot
oil and thymol in it, whichare very medicinal. I guess I would
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say at least it's medicinal. It'snot. It's not overly medicinal, right,
So we've got that going for us. So there were a lot of
cheese that the when they didn't whenthey boycotted black tea. They use things
like golden rod, winter green especially, used a lot of the memphis species
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that meant the peppermint, spearmint,wh raspberry lees make a good tea.
Rose hips were used, spice bushwas a big one, and then New
Jersey tea. So those are theliberty tees that are colonists used as a
substitute for English tea. You wantedto go into a little history, The
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British didn't import the tea from China. It was mostly the Portuguese and the
Dutch that imported tea from China.And then it wasn't until Princess Catherine of
Portugal when he married King George thesecond, she brought black tea to England.
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And we now know that Brits lovetheir tea, but they heavily taxed
it. They taxed the imported teavery heavily, and that's what kind of
led to the no taxation without representationthey didn't just dump the tea into the
harbor for no good reason. Theywere very upset with taxes. Sure,
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and that led to our good orbad, that led to the Revolutionary War
in part. I mean, atleast it played a role in it.
It's kind of an interesting I havea tradition I drink my sometimes I have
a cold beer, but I alwayslike to have some of my minarta tea,
mostly wild bergamot. Right. Andagain, these are all out there
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there. And you know what Inever even thought about when you said the
as far as the minarta with thatfireworks, the way the flower sprays out
like it does, it does looklike fireworks. That's a great discussion line.
And the one you mentioned at thevery end, which I think we're
going to see being used more andmore as being grown more and more,
and that's the new Jersey tea,which is a native plant, woody shrub
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that is used an awful lot fortea. It's a great pollinator plant and
you know, obviously a great nativeplant as well. And I think that's
one that you will see more andmore as a woody shrub being used in
the landscapes as we kind of getthe nurseries to grow it more and more.
It's been a hard one to getin numbers, but I think we'll
see that out there too. Andthat's the New Jersey tea and should be
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used more and more, way underused, Steve, we got to go.
But that's an excellent report. Iappreciate that good information about all the
teas. It's amazing. And I'msure Rita Hikenfell is probably listening at home
this morning talking about all the otherthings that you can make tees with as
well. But you're absolutely right,good native plants in that combo as well,
so, but New Jersey tea.Uh, that's one that as a
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matter of fact, we want totalk with Dick de Barr sometime in the
next probably two or three weeks,talking about natives and one of the things
he's trying to really continue to pushif we can grow more of it,
is the New Jersey tea plant asa good native plant for our landscape pollinators
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Minards are a hardware Welcome back inthe Guard with Ron Wilson eight hundred eight
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two three eight two five five website, Ron Wilson online dot com. I
want to put a shout out toolistening to us in Columbia, South Carolina
Genie West. Genie used to livein the Cincinnati area, grew up here
and uh, you know, andmoved to South Carolina in nineteen seventy one.
It's been there ever since. Andlistened to us there in Columbia and
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had a couple of questions, butjust wanted to put a shout out.
She said she loves listening because kindof brings back old memories of when she
was living. He sit by theway, she said, hot Columbia,
South Carolina does get a little warm. They're nice town, though. Boy,
I've been there a couple times andI really enjoyed it. Also,
thank you, Dwayne. Dwayne saidhe he was listening to us talking about
taking a bite of tomato and Americancheese, and he said he used to
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do the same thing as one ofmy favorite snacks, always to be one
of my dads and I guess Igot that from him. But he said
his favorite was peanut butter and jellysandwich with a slice of tomato and American
cheese. He said, it's awesome. You need to try it. I
don't know about that one. No, uh yeah, something about that combo.
Just I can't say no because Ihad never tried it, but not
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sure that I will. But Dwayne, thanks for the input. We'll give
it a shot. Maybe somebody outthere will try that peanut butter, grape
jelly, slice of tomato, slicedof American cheese. Nope, not for
me. Well let me know ifyou try it. By the way,
Dan said, no way. Onour website at ron Wilson online dot com,
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we do have our plant pick ofthe week. As a matter of
fact, Joe's been off the lastcouple of days, so we did not
get Rita's updated recipe on there,and we'll get that next week for you.
But you've got our past recipe.You can scroll down and see all
those and of course all the postingsfrom Buggy Joe and other interesting articles as
well. But our plant of theweek this week is a plant that's way,
way, way underused in our landscape, just like the New Jersey tea
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as a native plan. This particularplant is a hydrangea. Oh you say,
Ron, are you talking about hydrangens? I thought you you know,
this is another kind of hydrangen on, a Macrophila. By the way,
most people that have been buying thateclipse the new Macrophila hydrangea with the dark
maroon leaves and that crimsony flower orloving it so far looks good. I
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think it's they got a little winterthere. But this is one that can.
It can be used as a groundcover, a woody vine or a
woody shrub in the landscape. Andit loves shady conditions. Now it don't
take morning sun and after you know, an afternoon shade usually it's best.
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Man, it takes sun up tilltwo or three o'clock. But it really
enjoys the more shadier conditions. Allright, and again think about this.
It's a planet can be used asa woody ground cover, a woody climbing
vine, or a woody shrub,depending on how you use it. So
you say, what is that,Well, I'll tell you what. Here's
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the way it works. It's Hydrangea, and there's there's a bunch of different
they've changed the genus species on it. You can do anomalo specie petiolaris.
But common name is climbing hydrangea andit's used mostly as a climbing vine.
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But and it's very woody, butyou can actually plant it and let it
sprawl across the ground and it willwork as a woody groundcover. If you
plant it and prune it like ashrub, it will take on a because
it's so woody, it will takeon a shrub type form branching out and
you can actually create a shrub outof it, which I have seen done
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many times. And it's very confusingbecause you look at it. What is
that? Ooh, that's climbing hydrangeathat's been made into a shrub or like
it likes to is. Let thosehorizontally vining vines, woody vine slowly but
surely work their way up trellises,up walls. Uh. If you see
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some old mature ones out there,they've got like two and three inch trunk
diameters at the base. They areabsolutely awesome, unbelievable. Uh. They
you can make a little like littlestructure effects, sculpture effects on the on
the wall. I can't say Idescribe it enough, but it's it's a
really cool play, but it's it'sclimbing hydrangea. It has a cinnamon brownix
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foldi any bark, which is reallycool all right, glossy green leaves that
are fairly dark in color. Andthen of course it is a hydrangea bloomer,
usually bloom sometime in June. Lacecap like creamy white flowers. They
hang on for a few weeks,so it lasts for two or three,
maybe four weeks max. And thenit's just a good that that good.
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The rest of it's just it's justgreat looking plant. But for a climber,
you can use it as a groundcoveror trimen as a shrub. It's
climbing hydrangea, and one came outseveral years ago, which is pretty cool.
It's a dark green with variegated foldwhich kind of white to creamy white
margins on the outside of the leaf, called Miranda, and she's pretty cool
looking. So if you want alittle bit of a variegation in there,
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Miranda would be the one for you. But it's a hearty zones four through
eight sun depart shade, likes goodeven moisture. Make sure you water during
the drought, very very important andI think the thing about climbing hydrangea is
you have to remember they're always expensivewhen you buy them because it takes a
little while to get them rooted andestablished, so it takes away and they're
not a real fast grower. Ittakes a little while to get them growing.
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But once you get them up andget them start to growing, it
may take you two or three orfour years before you see it start the
flour, but then once it allstarts to come together, this thing is
absolutely spectacular, way underused for alldifferent types of situations, especially for those
in a shade to part shade.It is climbing hydrangea, and make sure
you check that out when you're atyour local kindergarden center or local nursery.
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Before we take a break, let'sgo to Dayton, Ohio and talk to
Dick. Dick, good morning,good morning. How are you? I
am great in yourself? Okay?Okay? Good? Are you staying cool?
You think about the debate? Whatdo I think about it? Yeah?
Just why? I don't think youwant to know what I think about
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it? Dick? No boy,no boy boy, I don't know.
It'll be interesting, Yeah, itwill, we be it willly be but
I thought maybe a couple of gigsthis week, you know, a couple
gigs. Oh yeah, that's prettygood. And uh, life's pretty good.
I've been checking. I've been sewinga lot of by CDs to good
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Will, you know. Yeah,I'm getting the tax break of him,
you know what I mean. Sure, that's good. Yeah. Hey,
did you happen to listen last night? You know who I got to talk
to? He was with? Uh? Oh, I think Tom gam You
remember Richard Skinner? Yes, yeah, he was wl W last night.
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Yeah, he says, well,it's been a long time. He says,
there's our buddy, Dick. Hellyeah, that's happy for you know.
I'll talk to you next week.But I'm always glad to talk to
you guys. Hey, Dick,have you ever ever thought about going to
like back to Low's with your ukuleleor the mandolin and just sitting up Yeah,
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and just sitting up a chair andplaying. Yeah, they probably you
know that store went down. Itwent well down. But if you my
friends was telling me, Dick,it's just there's nobody left there, hardly.
But what if you went back,Dick and set up a little stage
and a chair and play music.Should I should? Everybody would come to
see you. Yeah, and theneverybody would show up at Low's and you
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would save the Lows. Yeah.I would well have a good fourth.
All right, Dick, you havea happy fourth as well. Good talking
with you quick we come back.Phone lines are open for you at eight
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at the bottom of the hour,we're gonna talk to the queen bee breeder.
Nina Bagley's gonna be with us.She actually breeds queen bees, and
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of the one that can supply youever think about doing something like that,
How that's done, how important thequeen is to the hive. Nina's gonna
fill us in on all that greatinformation. It's all coming up on our
next hour. But for right now, it's you and me talking yarding at
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three two five five talking yarding ona very hot weekend, Maybe not that's
a lot tomorrow, and maybe notso hot on the Monday. It looks
like it's gonna temperature gonna drop alittle bit. But we'll opened the door
this morning to come outside to getin the truck to drive down to the
studios. And I had to punchmy way through the humidity to get out
to the truck, had to prythe door open. It was so thick.
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Got in the truck, got theAC going and cool things back down.
But it's bad. It's thick outthere this morning. And make sure
you're watering, please, very veryimportant. We may have some showers coming
through. Don't count on and remember, you know, count on those as
being a bonus. By the way, talking about mulching earlier about the I
was talking about the sycamore tree thathad been losing some leaves on the inside,
and you know, what to do, and the panic and all that.
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After we got through emailing back andforth and talking about how to water
properly and making sure you water beforethis ever starts to happen, et cetera,
et cetera. I also went backone more email. Probably didn't want
to hear from you again, butI emailed one more time. It went
back and said, by the way, I might suggest that you do this
now. They did have a reallysmall mault ring around the base of the
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tree and was probably from when theyfirst planted it, probably in a container,
and they probably just dug the wholepretty much size of container and put
it in. And the mult wasthat big, you know, fourteen inches
maybe eighteen at the most. Idon't know. It didn't seem very large.
But my point was to help yourselfout, to help the tree out
in long term and short term asfar as watering things like that. Is,
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to take that mulch area around thebase of that tree, and automatically
right off the bat, make itthree to four feet in diameter. If
you're planning a small tree five gallon, seven gallon, ten gallon, twenty
five gallon, I don't care,make the initial mulch ring around the base
of that tree at least three feetin diameter, at least three feet in
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diameter. Go four or five orsix. If you do it right off
the bat, go out six feetthree feet on both sides. What that
does makes it a lot easier foryou when you go to mow. It'll
it'll, it'll keep it like thatfor a long time before you would increase
a little bit more to make it, you know, kind of compensate with
you look good with the trees.It gets larger, but you know it,
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it really does help. And researchhas shown, research has shown just
getting the grass away from the plant, a gray from the tree or anything
else you plant. I see peopleplanting the arbor vity in a hedge.
You know, you plant these twentyarborvity across the back of your yard,
spaced out on five six foot centers, so there's this small little multring around
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each one. Just go ahead,mult them all together. Make it a
solid bed it. You take thegrass away, there is no competition with
anything else besides just the plant there. Okay, so there's no and it's
amazing that competition plants have with grasstrees and evergreens out in the lawn.
The competition there is tough. It'sreally tough. Eventually, shade trees and
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evergreens get big enough that they canshade it out and get it out to
the outer size. But it's toughwhen it's younger. So start out with
a minimum of a three foot circlefour feet, go to six feet if
you can, and malt that inmault and nicely, never put mulch against
the base of the plant. Youshould have about a six inch doughnut ring
around that trunk of that plant.So you can see if you look straight
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down, you can see the topof the root ball. You see the
root flare right always looking for theroot flare, we see the root flare
right at the top of the soilthere, so we can always see it,
but never up against the trunk ofthe tree. But always do that.
And what that does is it takesthe competition away from the saw it
first of all. Then when yougo to feed it makes it easier because
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now you're not dealing with the grass, you're dealing with the bed that it's
growing in. And it also thenyou're adding organic matter to the soil.
Now you're not incorporating it into thesoil around the tree, but you're putting
it on top and over time thatwill start to break down and work its
way into the soil. So you'readding organic matter, you're increasing the microbial
activity. You bring in your soilalive, You're going to invite some earthworms
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in there. The mulch helps tokeep the weeds down, helps to keep
the moisture in, helps to keepthe temperatures regulate a little bit more cooler
in the summer, warmer in thewinter, and it looks good. And
last but not least, it helpsto prevent lawn mower disease and string trimmor
disease. You know where you hitit with a lawnmower or you string trim
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around it, and you cause thebark to all go away eventually because you're
stringterming up against the trunk of thetree. So just bite the bullet.
So when I emailed these folks backand I said, by the way,
with all this stuff and you're tryingto water this little bitty circle of mulch.
You'll find out that your tree willdo much better if you increase that
mult circle. I told them fourfoot diameter, and it came back and
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said, you know you're right,and we will get it taken care of.
So hopefully they did. And againif somebody came back and said,
Okay, if we want to dothat, what's the best way to do
that, how do I get ridof the grass around the outside of that
tree? A couple ways you cando that. You can go with a
nice I think a sharp square spade. I have a d handled, short
handled, sharp square spade. Ithink you can use it for anything and
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everything. I couldn't live and landscapewithout my sharp square spade. But you
can go mark the four foot sixfoot circle around the tree, cut the
edge of the sad, cut thecircle, and then just go underneath that
sad just like a sad cutter withyour square spade, and just slice it
off, pick it up and takeit somewhere else and use it in the
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yard or wherever you can use theextra sod. If you can't, just
turn it over somewhere in a compost. Pile or whatever and let it break
down in the compost pile. Butthen you can use this physically remove it.
It's one way to do it,and then come back and mulch on
top. If you don't want togo through all that, you just want
to get rid of the grass.You can also mark the area if you've
got a weed whip or something likethat, mow it down really low and
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just put like a cardboard on topand put grass and put the mulch on
top of that, and that willwork. You could also use a non
selective vegetation killer fertilomes Kills All whichis g Life Estate does a great job.
Mark again, mark the circle,go in, spray the circle,
just a circle, all right,give it time, give a seven to
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ten days. You'll see it allstart to brown off. You can go
through and kind of mow that downlawif you want to, or wed whip
it down low, cut a littleedge or on to create a bed around
that, and then just mault ontop of it. Very easy to do.
You don't have to remove anything bydoing that, but there are several
ways to do it. I don'tlike landscape fabric, don't use that around
the trees. The only time Iwould suggest ever using landscape fabric me personally
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is if you're putting down gravel orstone or creating something like that where you
don't want the stone to work itsway down into the soil. It's great
underneath that. Otherwise I would notuse landscape fabric in the landscape. Just
wouldn't do it. Down the road, you just you will regret that you
did it, I think anyway.But under the gravel different story, because
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that really does keep the gravel ontop, and if somewhere down the road
you decide to get rid of thegravel, makes it a heck of a
lot easier. And also, alandscape fabric is excellent to be used on
the top of the ground in vegetablegardens. I think it works great there,
and I would recommend it for thatas well. But those are probably
the only two places that would recommendusing it. All right, So don't
do that, but use you coulduse cardboard, or don't use anything and
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just kill everything out, put moltsdown. Your good to go. But
that is a great way to getyour plants and your trees and shrubs out
in the lawn off to a muchbetter start. By doing that, makes
it easier for you to water,makes it easier for you to feed,
makes it easier for you to mowaround, and it makes it much easier
for the plant to try to growas you're adding organic matter and keeping the
competition away from the bottom of thetree. That's the bottom line. So
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as we look out there this summerat our landscapes, and you look at
the trees and whatever's out out inthe lawn, and if you don't have
malt around the base of those things, a nice maultring around them, consider
doing that as we get to theend of the summer going into the fall
season, removing all of that andputting mault around those trees. And again
remember not up against the trunk.Don't do any piling up, no volcano
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mulching, uh, just that niceone to three inch layer, keep it
six inches or so away from thetrunk of the tree, and go from
there. You'll find your trees willperform so much better for you and it's
so much better for them. It'scrazy. Now, one last name before
we go to the top of thehour here and take a break. Coming
up next will be the wild wingedwonder Monica Brubaker talking about our birds for
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the summer. Bottom of the hour, we're going to talk to Nina Bagley.
She's the queen bee breeder. Yeah, she works with creating these queen
bees which are phenomenal. It's kindof a really what a unique thing to
do. Well, we're gonna talkto Nina about that as well. But
one other thing I do want toremind you adding organic matter. We talked
about doing that around those trees andget rid of that mulch. Anytime you're
planting that you can add organic matterback to the soil. Good for you,
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because when we get a shower likeI was talking about this last Wednesday,
that came through the landscape beds thathave been soil amended and prepped and
mulch on top absorbed that rain rightaway. It didn't go anywhere right into
the ground out in the lawn orother areas that have not been prepared as
nicely as the landscape beds. Itruns off the top. So if we
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can core, air raid and addorganic matter back, and every time we
plant we add meganic matterback. Wework in a vegetball garden, we add
organic matterback, those areas will absorbthe rainfall, and you're watering much better
than that of just the old hardclay soil. That's what you're working with
again when you're planting, about atwenty percent amendment to about eighty percent of
of the clay soil. Use thesame soil when you fill back in,
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but amend it with organic matter,and you're gonna love it, and so
are your plants. All right,quick break, we come back the wild
wing Wonder Monica Brubaker here in theGarden with Run Wilson. Greens or not
Ron can help at one eight hundredeighty two three talk. This is in
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the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Our toll free number eight hundred eighttwo three eight two five five. Good
morning. I am Ron Wilson,your personal yard boy, talking about yardning.
Oh it is hot, hot,hot, it's back again. I'll
tell you what. It's very hotthis morning. Well was very hot yesterday,
but the humidity wasn't there. Butthen it's there now. You open
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up the door this morning at fouro'clock to walk out to the truck,
and you had to punch your wayout of the door through the humidity to
get to the truck. I meanthat's the way. It was eighty three
degrees here in Cincinnati this morning alreadyeighty three degrees. I don't know what
the humidity is, but it's horrible, and it's it's up. It's what
it felt like. And I'm notkidding. He was like walking into a
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piece of Sarayan wrap. It waslike, you're like, no, you
gotta be kidding me. But yesterday, actually I took the day off and
trying to get caught up on theWilson planting getting the rest of our flowers.
Planet had been sitting in pots forthe last three weeks because I just
haven't had time to plant. AndJoe took the day off yesterday and Joe
was on todayday and today. Sowith no cup of Joe, you're stuck
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with the Danny and me for thefirst fifteen minutes or so. Of course,
that means it'll be on time thistime, Dan, Yeah, that
means I won't be panicking trying tofit everything in at the last minute.
Yeah, trying to work it allin. So at least we got that
covered. But I here, Iam trying to plant and it was it
was hot. I mean it wasjust but it wasn't It was hot,
but it wasn't that bad humidity wisein this morning. Did that change in
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a hurry? Now? Supposedly lookingat the forecast, there is a chance,
pretty good chance of rain showers andthunderstorms in our area today, tonight
and maybe tomorrow morning. We'll takeit. We had a great rain shower
that came through earlier this week.I mean, we're dry, all we're
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dry, and rayshower came through.It varied obviously where you lived, but
we had a really nice, steadydownpour for probably twenty five minutes, and
it did get in it soils thatare prepped, like like landscape beds and
vegetable guards in that really soaked itin now the yard. I went out
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later on after that happened and hitwith the old square spade, just kind
of tinged. It actually got inthere just a tad, But you know,
we'll take it. And it helpedto replenish a little bit of the
ponds that we're starting to get littlebit low. So we'll take that.
Wasn't what we're hoping for, butwe'll take it. But again, I
just want to remind you and Ihave been the last couple of weeks talking
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with folks that are having trees andevergreens and shrubs that were planted last year
or two years ago or this springthat all of a sudden are just up
and turning brown, just all ofa sudden up and losing leaves in the
middle, all of a sudden,just dropping looking horrible. You know,
it's been dry, and you cannotcount on this thing that came through.
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I think it was Wednesday, Eventhough I think Ron Roth has said he
got eight tenths of an inch orso, you can't count on that as
being part of your watering. Forthe one inch of rainfall every seven to
ten days for established plants and everyother day or whatever. For the newly
planted trees and shrubs, you can'tcount on that. That's a bonus.
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So don't ever count on the showersunless unless they last, like you know,
half a day to a full daysoaking shower. That's a different story.
And even with that, even withthat, you still want to go
out and checked newly planted trees andshrubs to see how much actually was able
to work its way into that areawhere you have planted and into the immediate
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root ball. So many times itmay moisten the soil around it, but
did it actually penetrate the root ballof the newly planted tree or shrub?
A lot of times it doesn't.But right now I'm getting pictures. I
have one in front of me becauseI brought it as a reminder of someone
who had planted a sycamore several yearsago. I say, I think it's
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I say, several two years ago. Right, So this is going into
its third season and still young,still small, and has about a twelve
fourteen inch mault ring around the bottomof it and starting to lose turn brown
in the middle, and you don'twant to know what it was a disease,
What is the disease, What isthe insect that's causing this? And
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it's still amazing to me the folksthink it's a disease or an insect when
you know, just looking at itin the way the leaves are starting to
brown, you could tell it's alack of moisture. And of course,
when you're talking sycamore, where doyou normally see Now, they'll take they'll
take, you know, regular soils, they'll take drier soils once established.
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But where do you normally see themgrowing. You see them a lot of
long the creek banks and river banks, and where they get a you know,
just a little bit of extra moisture, they like that and they'll grow
in other situations, but they mayhave to get established. And you know,
a two or three year old treeis still not established. And even
to that, even established trees canstill suffer from the drought. But you
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know, it was like, no, we don't, we haven't watered it.
We you know, we started wateringit when we started to see some
of the yelling on the inside.Well, by the time you start to
see the yellowing on the inside,it's already some of the damage has already
happened. It's already starting to react. And when you water plants, it's
not like you getting an iv andfeeling better the next day when you're rehydrated.
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Doesn't work that way with plants.It takes time. Now, obviously,
getting it to the plant, gettingit up in the plant helps to
put things on hold. I mean, it puts a stop to it.
But the damages have already started.For deciduous plants, plants that lose their
leaves in the fall and over thewintertime, they can recover from things like
this a lot easier than evergreens.Get an evergreen right now, all of
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a sudden, you're starting to seeit lose its color, starting to turn
brown. Uh. And it's andif it's from the drought, Uh,
probably too late. It's a realgood chance you're not gonna save that.
That's where you've got to be proactivewhen it comes to waterring, based on
what the you know, the therainfall schedule has been and how of course
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how long the plant's been in etcetera, et cetera. But you got
to stay proactive about it. Youcan't just wait for it to start to
show you signs and then start thewater. Doesn't work that way. Now
again you can You'll save the you'llsave the deciduous plants for the most part,
but evergreens, that's pretty darn tough. And sometimes you know, you
just can't explain why one in agroup of five, six or seven or
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two, or you got a rowof ten, you lost three. How
does that happen? They're all plantingin the same area, same soil.
I water them the same every day. Trust me. It happens in front
of our landscape office, an entrance. We did it. We did a
planting last fall, new planting,and I've been giving it minimal watering,
but watering as needed, and everything'slooking pretty good. And then all of
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a sudden, about ten days ago, one of the junipers of several masses
of plants through there to give alot of different texture and a lot of
different plants to see in this hugeplanting. But in this grouping of five,
and they're a golden juniper, andI can't think of the name of
what they were, a newer selection. Trying to see what they look like
as they grow, one just dumpand turn brown. And there's a situation
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where they're all the rest of themlook great. Everything else in that entire
bed looks great. One didn't makeit all of a sudden, just dump
and turn brown, all getting wateredexactly the same way. How do you
explain that? I can't. Andthey pulled out of the ground fairly easily,
hadn't really started to root in much. But it's like, you know,
they are all exactly the same.You know, you line five of
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us up and treat us all thesame way. People, you know we're
not all going to react the sameway, and plants are going to be
the same. So that does happen. I mean, it does happen,
But the kicker is trying to makesure that you are staying ahead of the
game watering as we're getting starting tosee these drought situations or seeing these dry
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situations, rather than waiting for theplant to start to show a problem before
you start to do this right.So many times they don't recover, especially
the evergreens, the plants probably sowith the sycamore tree, you know it's
going to recover. I mean thatleaves on the end of the branch is
so far still there. It's allthe stuff on the inside that it had
lost, so I think we'll recover, and there's always a good chance to
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Sometimes they'll pop out a second setof leaves. If not, you'll make
it through the summer, get itthrough the winter, and hopefully get back
together in the spring. The otherthing to remember is this, if you
this does come up and then allof a sudden, you start watering and
you're you know, you say,oh my gosh, you start to turn
yellow, I'm starting to lose someleaves. You start watering and you haven't
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been watering before, not watering verymuch, and you realize you need to
really soak this thing. Soak it, even though it's losing those leaves.
Soak it, let it get closeto dry, soak it. So many
folks will overreact and then all ofa sudden water it every day to try
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to bring it back out of what'shappening. Will you just make it worse
in most cases, because what happensis now you're keeping everything soaking wet.
And if the police the plan isn'table to take up as much as transpiring
as much, et cetera, etcetera, you start to cause a route
decline. We probably lose I don'tknow. I couldn't give you a percentagese.
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But when it comes to hydrangeas,especially newly planet hydrangeas, the first
couple of years is tough. Ifthey have sun at all in the mid
day or afternoon, you know,they cannot take up enough moisture from the
ground to supply the moisture that's beinglost through the leaves transperation. And you
know you can give them good soaking. There's good moisture in the ground,
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they just can't take it up fastenough. And then at nighttime, when
everything cools down, the sun goesdown, the plant perks right back up
again. And this morning you lookat it looks great, but by two
o'clock in the afternoon, it's allwilted down. And so what do we
do. We overreact and we startwatering it every day. I'm pushing the
water to it. I'm watering itevery day. It's soaking wet out there,
but it still doesn't perk back up. Well, you just keep doing
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that. Next thing, you know, you've rotted the roots out and it's
not going to perk up because youjust took the root system out as well.
It gets very confusing. It's sohard to explain to people. It's
tough, there's no doubt about it. But I think the thing to remember
is this. You got to watchthe weather. You got to realize when
we're starting to get into a droughtsituation. You got to realize which plants
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need it more than others. Whenit comes to watering, you've got to
remember to soak it well. Don'tbe a tease. Let it get close
to dry. Soak it well.It may still react a little bit because
of the heat, and you stillmay get a couple of leaves here and
there, little drop or whatever.But keep with your watering. Soak it
close to dry, soak it,check the immediate root ball. Use a
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moisture meter can really help you out. Stick your finger down there. Does
it need to be water? Doesit not need to be watered? Is
it just the afternoon sun it's causingus to happen. It's kind of tricky,
there's no doubt about it, especiallythose first couple of years three years
with new plants. But you cando it, but it just takes a
little more time. I still remembersomebody will take a break here, and
I don't want to be like Joe, keep taking it off forever. Thank
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you. I still remember a coupletold me one time, said, you
know what we were anticipating planting ourWe planted our landscape according to how much
time we wanted to spend in theyard maintaining it. We didn't realize how
much time it took to water itas we're getting it established, and it
does take a lot of time.Got to make sure you commit to that.
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yard ning at eight hundred eight twothree eight two five five, Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personalyard boy. It is hot outside
today, very human, good chanceor rainfall today? Boy, I hope
we get that. But remember rememberwhat I've said, that's amazing. I
mean, people continue to sit it. I know, I know, I
know. Rainfall is a bonus.Don't count on it. It's a bonus.
Keep watering as needed. And that'sexactly right to Northern Kentucky. Would
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go Steve, Good morning, Goodmorning, Ron. How are you saying
I'd like to talk about liberty teathis morning if I could indulge me?
Okay, right, because we knowwhat's right around the corner. Independence Day
is coming up fast, yep.And there are there are teas that I
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call my liberty tees. The monardaspecies most noteworthy are the wild Birdnarta fast
julusa and the bee bomb Monarta didema. I also have Bradberry's Monarta, but
it's not blooming now. If youlook at those flowers visually, they look
just like fireworks, which reminds meof the Fourth of July. You're right.
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But more importantly, they were usedby the settlers. After the Boston
Tea Party and we no longer weregetting in the Chinese tea the what Camellia
sinensus or whatever it is, theblack and green tea. They went to
native wild teas. The the monartaswere a big one. The monarta is
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not only pretty pretty, but it'salso a very healing tea. It's carmentaives
out of your stomach, so ifyou've got a bedcase of the flatulence,
that can help with that. It'sdiaphoretic, so it's a peeper reducer.
It's good for cold headache, sourceroot, et cetera. It's got bergamot
oil and thymol in it, whichare very medicinal. I guess I would
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say at least it's medicinal. It'snot. It's not overly medicinal, right,
So we've got that going for us. So there were a lot of
cheese that the when they didn't whenthey boycotted black tea. They use things
like golden rod, winter green especially, used a lot of the memphis species
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that meant the peppermint, spearmint,wh raspberry lees make a good tea.
Rose hips were used, spice bushwas a big one, and then New
Jersey tea. So those are theliberty tees that are colonists used as a
substitute for English tea. You wantedto go into a little history, The
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British didn't import the tea from China. It was mostly the Portuguese and the
Dutch that imported tea from China.And then it wasn't until Princess Catherine of
Portugal when he married King George thesecond, she brought black tea to England.
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And we now know that Brits lovetheir tea, but they heavily taxed
it. They taxed the imported teavery heavily, and that's what kind of
led to the no taxation without representationthey didn't just dump the tea into the
harbor for no good reason. Theywere very upset with taxes. Sure,
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and that led to our good orbad, that led to the Revolutionary War
in part. I mean, atleast it played a role in it.
It's kind of an interesting I havea tradition I drink my sometimes I have
a cold beer, but I alwayslike to have some of my minarta tea,
mostly wild bergamot. Right. Andagain, these are all out there
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there. And you know what Inever even thought about when you said the
as far as the minarta with thatfireworks, the way the flower sprays out
like it does, it does looklike fireworks. That's a great discussion line.
And the one you mentioned at thevery end, which I think we're
going to see being used more andmore as being grown more and more,
and that's the new Jersey tea,which is a native plant, woody shrub
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that is used an awful lot fortea. It's a great pollinator plant and
you know, obviously a great nativeplant as well. And I think that's
one that you will see more andmore as a woody shrub being used in
the landscapes as we kind of getthe nurseries to grow it more and more.
It's been a hard one to getin numbers, but I think we'll
see that out there too. Andthat's the New Jersey tea and should be
(20:00):
used more and more, way underused, Steve, we got to go.
But that's an excellent report. Iappreciate that good information about all the
teas. It's amazing. And I'msure Rita Hikenfell is probably listening at home
this morning talking about all the otherthings that you can make tees with as
well. But you're absolutely right,good native plants in that combo as well,
so, but New Jersey tea.Uh, that's one that as a
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matter of fact, we want totalk with Dick de Barr sometime in the
next probably two or three weeks,talking about natives and one of the things
he's trying to really continue to pushif we can grow more of it,
is the New Jersey tea plant asa good native plant for our landscape pollinators
and for us as well. Eighthundred eight two three eight two five five.
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two three eight two five five website, Ron Wilson online dot com. I
want to put a shout out toolistening to us in Columbia, South Carolina
Genie West. Genie used to livein the Cincinnati area, grew up here
and uh, you know, andmoved to South Carolina in nineteen seventy one.
It's been there ever since. Andlistened to us there in Columbia and
(23:23):
had a couple of questions, butjust wanted to put a shout out.
She said she loves listening because kindof brings back old memories of when she
was living. He sit by theway, she said, hot Columbia,
South Carolina does get a little warm. They're nice town, though. Boy,
I've been there a couple times andI really enjoyed it. Also,
thank you, Dwayne. Dwayne saidhe he was listening to us talking about
taking a bite of tomato and Americancheese, and he said he used to
(23:47):
do the same thing as one ofmy favorite snacks, always to be one
of my dads and I guess Igot that from him. But he said
his favorite was peanut butter and jellysandwich with a slice of tomato and American
cheese. He said, it's awesome. You need to try it. I
don't know about that one. No, uh yeah, something about that combo.
Just I can't say no because Ihad never tried it, but not
(24:11):
sure that I will. But Dwayne, thanks for the input. We'll give
it a shot. Maybe somebody outthere will try that peanut butter, grape
jelly, slice of tomato, slicedof American cheese. Nope, not for
me. Well let me know ifyou try it. By the way,
Dan said, no way. Onour website at ron Wilson online dot com,
(24:33):
we do have our plant pick ofthe week. As a matter of
fact, Joe's been off the lastcouple of days, so we did not
get Rita's updated recipe on there,and we'll get that next week for you.
But you've got our past recipe.You can scroll down and see all
those and of course all the postingsfrom Buggy Joe and other interesting articles as
well. But our plant of theweek this week is a plant that's way,
way, way underused in our landscape, just like the New Jersey tea
(24:57):
as a native plan. This particularplant is a hydrangea. Oh you say,
Ron, are you talking about hydrangens? I thought you you know,
this is another kind of hydrangen on, a Macrophila. By the way,
most people that have been buying thateclipse the new Macrophila hydrangea with the dark
maroon leaves and that crimsony flower orloving it so far looks good. I
(25:21):
think it's they got a little winterthere. But this is one that can.
It can be used as a groundcover, a woody vine or a
woody shrub in the landscape. Andit loves shady conditions. Now it don't
take morning sun and after you know, an afternoon shade usually it's best.
(25:44):
Man, it takes sun up tilltwo or three o'clock. But it really
enjoys the more shadier conditions. Allright, and again think about this.
It's a planet can be used asa woody ground cover, a woody climbing
vine, or a woody shrub,depending on how you use it. So
you say, what is that,Well, I'll tell you what. Here's
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the way it works. It's Hydrangea, and there's there's a bunch of different
they've changed the genus species on it. You can do anomalo specie petiolaris.
But common name is climbing hydrangea andit's used mostly as a climbing vine.
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But and it's very woody, butyou can actually plant it and let it
sprawl across the ground and it willwork as a woody groundcover. If you
plant it and prune it like ashrub, it will take on a because
it's so woody, it will takeon a shrub type form branching out and
you can actually create a shrub outof it, which I have seen done
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many times. And it's very confusingbecause you look at it. What is
that? Ooh, that's climbing hydrangeathat's been made into a shrub or like
it likes to is. Let thosehorizontally vining vines, woody vine slowly but
surely work their way up trellises,up walls. Uh. If you see
(27:10):
some old mature ones out there,they've got like two and three inch trunk
diameters at the base. They areabsolutely awesome, unbelievable. Uh. They
you can make a little like littlestructure effects, sculpture effects on the on
the wall. I can't say Idescribe it enough, but it's it's a
really cool play, but it's it'sclimbing hydrangea. It has a cinnamon brownix
(27:32):
foldi any bark, which is reallycool all right, glossy green leaves that
are fairly dark in color. Andthen of course it is a hydrangea bloomer,
usually bloom sometime in June. Lacecap like creamy white flowers. They
hang on for a few weeks,so it lasts for two or three,
maybe four weeks max. And thenit's just a good that that good.
(27:52):
The rest of it's just it's justgreat looking plant. But for a climber,
you can use it as a groundcoveror trimen as a shrub. It's
climbing hydrangea, and one came outseveral years ago, which is pretty cool.
It's a dark green with variegated foldwhich kind of white to creamy white
margins on the outside of the leaf, called Miranda, and she's pretty cool
looking. So if you want alittle bit of a variegation in there,
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Miranda would be the one for you. But it's a hearty zones four through
eight sun depart shade, likes goodeven moisture. Make sure you water during
the drought, very very important andI think the thing about climbing hydrangea is
you have to remember they're always expensivewhen you buy them because it takes a
little while to get them rooted andestablished, so it takes away and they're
not a real fast grower. Ittakes a little while to get them growing.
(28:38):
But once you get them up andget them start to growing, it
may take you two or three orfour years before you see it start the
flour, but then once it allstarts to come together, this thing is
absolutely spectacular, way underused for alldifferent types of situations, especially for those
in a shade to part shade.It is climbing hydrangea, and make sure
you check that out when you're atyour local kindergarden center or local nursery.
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Before we take a break, let'sgo to Dayton, Ohio and talk to
Dick. Dick, good morning,good morning. How are you? I
am great in yourself? Okay?Okay? Good? Are you staying cool?
You think about the debate? Whatdo I think about it? Yeah?
Just why? I don't think youwant to know what I think about
(29:22):
it? Dick? No boy,no boy boy, I don't know.
It'll be interesting, Yeah, itwill, we be it willly be but
I thought maybe a couple of gigsthis week, you know, a couple
gigs. Oh yeah, that's prettygood. And uh, life's pretty good.
I've been checking. I've been sewinga lot of by CDs to good
(29:45):
Will, you know. Yeah,I'm getting the tax break of him,
you know what I mean. Sure, that's good. Yeah. Hey,
did you happen to listen last night? You know who I got to talk
to? He was with? Uh? Oh, I think Tom gam You
remember Richard Skinner? Yes, yeah, he was wl W last night.
(30:08):
Yeah, he says, well,it's been a long time. He says,
there's our buddy, Dick. Hellyeah, that's happy for you know.
I'll talk to you next week.But I'm always glad to talk to
you guys. Hey, Dick,have you ever ever thought about going to
like back to Low's with your ukuleleor the mandolin and just sitting up Yeah,
(30:29):
and just sitting up a chair andplaying. Yeah, they probably you
know that store went down. Itwent well down. But if you my
friends was telling me, Dick,it's just there's nobody left there, hardly.
But what if you went back,Dick and set up a little stage
and a chair and play music.Should I should? Everybody would come to
see you. Yeah, and theneverybody would show up at Low's and you
(30:52):
would save the Lows. Yeah.I would well have a good fourth.
All right, Dick, you havea happy fourth as well. Good talking
with you quick we come back.Phone lines are open for you at eight
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three two five five talking yarding ona very hot weekend, Maybe not that's
a lot tomorrow, and maybe notso hot on the Monday. It looks
like it's gonna temperature gonna drop alittle bit. But we'll opened the door
this morning to come outside to getin the truck to drive down to the
studios. And I had to punchmy way through the humidity to get out
to the truck, had to prythe door open. It was so thick.
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Got in the truck, got theAC going and cool things back down.
But it's bad. It's thick outthere this morning. And make sure
you're watering, please, very veryimportant. We may have some showers coming
through. Don't count on and remember, you know, count on those as
being a bonus. By the way, talking about mulching earlier about the I
was talking about the sycamore tree thathad been losing some leaves on the inside,
and you know, what to do, and the panic and all that.
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After we got through emailing back andforth and talking about how to water
properly and making sure you water beforethis ever starts to happen, et cetera,
et cetera. I also went backone more email. Probably didn't want
to hear from you again, butI emailed one more time. It went
back and said, by the way, I might suggest that you do this
now. They did have a reallysmall mault ring around the base of the
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tree and was probably from when theyfirst planted it, probably in a container,
and they probably just dug the wholepretty much size of container and put
it in. And the mult wasthat big, you know, fourteen inches
maybe eighteen at the most. Idon't know. It didn't seem very large.
But my point was to help yourselfout, to help the tree out
in long term and short term asfar as watering things like that. Is,
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to take that mulch area around thebase of that tree, and automatically
right off the bat, make itthree to four feet in diameter. If
you're planning a small tree five gallon, seven gallon, ten gallon, twenty
five gallon, I don't care,make the initial mulch ring around the base
of that tree at least three feetin diameter, at least three feet in
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diameter. Go four or five orsix. If you do it right off
the bat, go out six feetthree feet on both sides. What that
does makes it a lot easier foryou when you go to mow. It'll
it'll, it'll keep it like thatfor a long time before you would increase
a little bit more to make it, you know, kind of compensate with
you look good with the trees.It gets larger, but you know it,
(36:15):
it really does help. And researchhas shown, research has shown just
getting the grass away from the plant, a gray from the tree or anything
else you plant. I see peopleplanting the arbor vity in a hedge.
You know, you plant these twentyarborvity across the back of your yard,
spaced out on five six foot centers, so there's this small little multring around
(36:37):
each one. Just go ahead,mult them all together. Make it a
solid bed it. You take thegrass away, there is no competition with
anything else besides just the plant there. Okay, so there's no and it's
amazing that competition plants have with grasstrees and evergreens out in the lawn.
The competition there is tough. It'sreally tough. Eventually, shade trees and
(36:58):
evergreens get big enough that they canshade it out and get it out to
the outer size. But it's toughwhen it's younger. So start out with
a minimum of a three foot circlefour feet, go to six feet if
you can, and malt that inmault and nicely, never put mulch against
the base of the plant. Youshould have about a six inch doughnut ring
around that trunk of that plant.So you can see if you look straight
(37:21):
down, you can see the topof the root ball. You see the
root flare right always looking for theroot flare, we see the root flare
right at the top of the soilthere, so we can always see it,
but never up against the trunk ofthe tree. But always do that.
And what that does is it takesthe competition away from the saw it
first of all. Then when yougo to feed it makes it easier because
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now you're not dealing with the grass, you're dealing with the bed that it's
growing in. And it also thenyou're adding organic matter to the soil.
Now you're not incorporating it into thesoil around the tree, but you're putting
it on top and over time thatwill start to break down and work its
way into the soil. So you'readding organic matter, you're increasing the microbial
activity. You bring in your soilalive, You're going to invite some earthworms
(38:06):
in there. The mulch helps tokeep the weeds down, helps to keep
the moisture in, helps to keepthe temperatures regulate a little bit more cooler
in the summer, warmer in thewinter, and it looks good. And
last but not least, it helpsto prevent lawn mower disease and string trimmor
disease. You know where you hitit with a lawnmower or you string trim
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around it, and you cause thebark to all go away eventually because you're
stringterming up against the trunk of thetree. So just bite the bullet.
So when I emailed these folks backand I said, by the way,
with all this stuff and you're tryingto water this little bitty circle of mulch.
You'll find out that your tree willdo much better if you increase that
mult circle. I told them fourfoot diameter, and it came back and
(38:50):
said, you know you're right,and we will get it taken care of.
So hopefully they did. And againif somebody came back and said,
Okay, if we want to dothat, what's the best way to do
that, how do I get ridof the grass around the outside of that
tree? A couple ways you cando that. You can go with a
nice I think a sharp square spade. I have a d handled, short
handled, sharp square spade. Ithink you can use it for anything and
(39:13):
everything. I couldn't live and landscapewithout my sharp square spade. But you
can go mark the four foot sixfoot circle around the tree, cut the
edge of the sad, cut thecircle, and then just go underneath that
sad just like a sad cutter withyour square spade, and just slice it
off, pick it up and takeit somewhere else and use it in the
(39:34):
yard or wherever you can use theextra sod. If you can't, just
turn it over somewhere in a compost. Pile or whatever and let it break
down in the compost pile. Butthen you can use this physically remove it.
It's one way to do it,and then come back and mulch on
top. If you don't want togo through all that, you just want
to get rid of the grass.You can also mark the area if you've
got a weed whip or something likethat, mow it down really low and
(39:57):
just put like a cardboard on topand put grass and put the mulch on
top of that, and that willwork. You could also use a non
selective vegetation killer fertilomes Kills All whichis g Life Estate does a great job.
Mark again, mark the circle,go in, spray the circle,
just a circle, all right,give it time, give a seven to
(40:20):
ten days. You'll see it allstart to brown off. You can go
through and kind of mow that downlawif you want to, or wed whip
it down low, cut a littleedge or on to create a bed around
that, and then just mault ontop of it. Very easy to do.
You don't have to remove anything bydoing that, but there are several
ways to do it. I don'tlike landscape fabric, don't use that around
the trees. The only time Iwould suggest ever using landscape fabric me personally
(40:44):
is if you're putting down gravel orstone or creating something like that where you
don't want the stone to work itsway down into the soil. It's great
underneath that. Otherwise I would notuse landscape fabric in the landscape. Just
wouldn't do it. Down the road, you just you will regret that you
did it, I think anyway.But under the gravel different story, because
(41:06):
that really does keep the gravel ontop, and if somewhere down the road
you decide to get rid of thegravel, makes it a heck of a
lot easier. And also, alandscape fabric is excellent to be used on
the top of the ground in vegetablegardens. I think it works great there,
and I would recommend it for thatas well. But those are probably
the only two places that would recommendusing it. All right, So don't
do that, but use you coulduse cardboard, or don't use anything and
(41:29):
just kill everything out, put moltsdown. Your good to go. But
that is a great way to getyour plants and your trees and shrubs out
in the lawn off to a muchbetter start. By doing that, makes
it easier for you to water,makes it easier for you to feed,
makes it easier for you to mowaround, and it makes it much easier
for the plant to try to growas you're adding organic matter and keeping the
competition away from the bottom of thetree. That's the bottom line. So
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as we look out there this summerat our landscapes, and you look at
the trees and whatever's out out inthe lawn, and if you don't have
malt around the base of those things, a nice maultring around them, consider
doing that as we get to theend of the summer going into the fall
season, removing all of that andputting mault around those trees. And again
remember not up against the trunk.Don't do any piling up, no volcano
(42:13):
mulching, uh, just that niceone to three inch layer, keep it
six inches or so away from thetrunk of the tree, and go from
there. You'll find your trees willperform so much better for you and it's
so much better for them. It'scrazy. Now, one last name before
we go to the top of thehour here and take a break. Coming
up next will be the wild wingedwonder Monica Brubaker talking about our birds for
(42:34):
the summer. Bottom of the hour, we're going to talk to Nina Bagley.
She's the queen bee breeder. Yeah, she works with creating these queen
bees which are phenomenal. It's kindof a really what a unique thing to
do. Well, we're gonna talkto Nina about that as well. But
one other thing I do want toremind you adding organic matter. We talked
about doing that around those trees andget rid of that mulch. Anytime you're
planting that you can add organic matterback to the soil. Good for you,
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because when we get a shower likeI was talking about this last Wednesday,
that came through the landscape beds thathave been soil amended and prepped and
mulch on top absorbed that rain rightaway. It didn't go anywhere right into
the ground out in the lawn orother areas that have not been prepared as
nicely as the landscape beds. Itruns off the top. So if we
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can core, air raid and addorganic matter back, and every time we
plant we add meganic matterback. Wework in a vegetball garden, we add
organic matterback, those areas will absorbthe rainfall, and you're watering much better
than that of just the old hardclay soil. That's what you're working with
again when you're planting, about atwenty percent amendment to about eighty percent of
of the clay soil. Use thesame soil when you fill back in,
(43:44):
but amend it with organic matter,and you're gonna love it, and so
are your plants. All right,quick break, we come back the wild
wing Wonder Monica Brubaker here in theGarden with Run Wilson. Greens or not
Ron can help at one eight hundredeighty two three talk. This is in
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