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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding on this first Saturday
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in June. Father's Day next weekend, don't forget that. And
Joe and I are excited because I just saw a report
where Father's Day spending is actually going to go up
this year according to the research out there, by about
ten bucks. So that's another six pack or whatever. But
that works okay with me. And I was talking earlier
about professional tools bypass really nice high end bypass pruners, loppers,
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really good pruning saw, foldable pruning sal really nice. You
know this, stainless steel or aluminum shanked square spades, nice
sharp square spade. Tools like that are really cool and
dads appreciate things like that. And one of the things
I brought up was the gardening gloves. And there's a
lot of them out there, but one of my favorites.
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And I've whatd I was. Actually, I can honestly say
I was actually involved a little bit many many years
ago when they first started putting this line of gloves together.
Louisville Slugger brought in some hand surgeons and wanted to
develop a gardening glove that you know, helped your hands
that were hinged and padded so your hands didn't hurt
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while you were gardening. And I went down and actually
you worked with them a little bit, got to experience
experiment with with some of their gloves and all. And
what they came out with is actually endorsed by the
National Arthritis Foundation, and a lot of folks will buy
these gloves. They have different series, gardening gloves, driving gloves, whatever.
They're like a golf club, but they're called bionic gloves,
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and of course you want the bionic gardening gloves, and
it's goat skin. You can wash them with soap and water,
let them dry. They come right back to fit in
your hands. They have the velcrow around the wrist, the
you don't get soil inside there. They are extremely comfortable.
I am not a glove wearer when I garden, there
are some situations where I will and if I have
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to wear them, that is the glove that I wear,
and I highly recommend it. So the reason I'm saying
that is that you know they're they're not cheap. They're
last I checked to probably fifty bucks a pair, but
they're worth it and they fit great. And they asked
a while for you, and again arthurised, and I've had
folks that said, you know what, we bought those you
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have arthritis and it actually helps to improve our performance.
As a matter of fact, one of the tests they
had me to do with gloves, they had me put
on a regular glove like the old cotton gloves in
that and they had a gription meter, so you squeeze it,
and it was amazing how much grip you lose with
some of these other gloves. When you put this gardening
glove on and the bionic garden glove and you lost
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hardly any and you can pick out the dime with
it and all that kind of stuff. So really cool gloves.
It's called Bionic garden gloves. You can get Their website
is Bionic Gloves dot Com out of Louisville. And that's
a great thing for Dad. Trust me, he will love those.
Riata Hikenfeld of course our herbalists on the show. I
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gave rit a pair of these many many years ago
as a gift and she loved them. She actually used
them for driving at the time, so they're pretty cool.
But anyway that you can add to listen, I forgot
to give you the website when I was talking about
them earlier, but it's a Bionic gloves dot com. Talking
about yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five gym and Cincinnati, good morning.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes, I have a two questions. One, I have a
forty five to fifty foot white pine tree and the
bottom branches come out about fifteen feet. How I'd love
the look of them but I hate the mowing around them.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
What's my options?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know what, typically with the branches coming out like that,
if you let the needles fall, they create their own
mulched bed underneath that tree, so nothing grows underneath, or
at least the grass doesn't grow underneath. So I guess
my first question. My first option to you would be,
you know, take out any grass that's growing underneath the
create an edge around the bed let and malch it
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with pine needles that you can buy, and let those
pine needles drop every year and just do its own mulching.
And that way, you just run the more right around
the outer edge. As those continue to increase, maybe every
three or four years, you widen out the bed a
little bit more. But once you do that, you get
rid of the of anything growing underneath, and you malt
it with pine straw or pine needle maults called pine straw.
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Then as those needles drop in the fall, you don't
have to do anything with them. Let them drop right there.
They become their own mulch. No grass, you mow around
the outside, easy, peasy.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Okay, okay, because what I have is like honeysuckle coming
up and those types of things the grass is generally dying,
so I just need to crawl underneath there and kill
the honeysuckle.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Huh yeah, pull all that stuff up, and you know
what with a honeysuckle, if you just if you can't
grub it out, just get underneath there and cut it
off at the ground. And when you're in there, take
yourself a jar bottle of brush and weed killer, brush
and stump killer like from fertilom, and just take a
brush and paint it right on the top of the
fresh cut of that honeysuckle. Won't come back up. You
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got to take care of so quick cut, a quick
paint and it's all done. And you do that one time,
and you may still have him pop up every now
and then, but you do that one time. A good
you know, three inch this where I would do a
three inch layering of those pine needles, and I think
you will find that that will take care of itself
over time.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Next question is I love rocks, and how much damage
am I doing by putting rocks that are probably eight
by twelve, fourteen by twenty in where the malts is.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't think you're doing any damage. I think you know,
if there's any plant that would be growing close to
those stones that may spread by rhizomes or spread underground,
that could cause it limited obviously because of the rock
being there, but otherwise to place a rock next to
a plant or in front of a plant, you know,
rocks of eight twelve eighteen inches, I don't think it
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is shoot. They'll grow, you know, as a matter of fact,
underneath those rocks sometimes will stay kind of cool and moist,
and you'll find that the route will grow right underneath
the rocks or around her or whatever. So I don't
see that besides perennials and things like that, I don't
see it being an issue.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, this is strictly trees.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
This is simply trees, no problem. Okay, cool, Thanks very much,
all right, Jim, good talking to you. Appreciate the call.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Don't
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by the way. But we got done talking to Barbie
and one of my notes that I have on here
I've been writing every week is to keep encouraging folks
to plant sunflowers. There are so many varieties of sunflowers
out there today that get twelve inches tall, eighteen inches tall,
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ten feet tall. The mammis the giants, you know, and
they're different colors. Some are multi bloomers, some are single
head bloomers. The sunflower has such a great rich history.
The sunflower is so cool because those heads as they're
forming follow the sun. Talk about a cool thing for
you and the kids watching that every day, move and
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follow the sun at the end of the day facing
to the west, turning back around and going back to
the east. And then of course once they start forming
the actual head, they lock into place most of the
time generally facing to the east. And I think it's
always funny because we used to do an acre corner
of a street and about an acre and do a
sunflower patch there every year for folks to drive by
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and look at. And if you were once the flowers
were all set in place facing the east. As you
were driving toward the east coming by the sunflower field,
you didn't really notice it at first because you saw
the backsides of the sunflowers, but that five hundred thousand
plants that were in that acre of sunflowers, there were
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always three or four percent of them that didn't quite
face to the east. Look it off to some other direction,
and you kind of look at it and go, see,
there's just like people. There's a few different folks out there,
which is kind of interesting. But for the most part, Remember,
they wind up locking to where the sun comes up
in the morning, so when you plant them, make sure
they do that so that you can see them once
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they lock in the place when they start to flower.
And of course the seed ads are great for the wildlife,
you know, the whole nine yards. But what research has
found is that the pollen in sunflowers is way way
beneficial for bees and other pollinators, but especially both the
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honey bee and the native bees, and that they have
shown now that bee colonies, hives that were being raised
closer to sunflower fields where they had access to a
lot of sunflow pollen, actually had lower rates of disease
and were much healthier because of the sunflower pollen. So
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you think about how easy they are to grow. Everybody
recognizes a sunflower. You smile every time you see a sunflower.
Pollinators love them, the wildlife loves them. Later on, you
could eat the sunflower seeds. They're just so much fun
to watch. And to get the kids involved, this is
kid's gardening muscle used as an excuse. Get out to
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your local independent garden center. See what seedpacks they have
left over at this time, because they're starting to sell
out the seed packs. Get yourself some seeds of sunflowers
and scatter those around. Plant those in your yard and garden,
in your pollinator gardens in containers, and they're all going
to love you for it, including your neighbors, yourself, and
your kids. Plant sunflowers for all of us to make
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a smile. Bees and pollinators included eight hundred eight two
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Love Gary eleven, Gary Sullivan Here in the garden with
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
You know, if you like visiting gardens, then you need
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Time for little Home improvement from the most listened to
home improvement show host in the entire world, Ladies and gentlemen.
His website, Garysalivan online dot com, The one, the only,
the man, the met the legend Mister Gary Sullivan, Good
(12:26):
morning sir, Good morning. How are you? I am absolutely wonderful.
Have you planted sunflowers in your yard before? No? How come?
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
I don't have a reason.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, just curious. I mean you've gardened over the years
and planted flowers, and I have had the kids, and
you know, kids usually like to plant sunflowers.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Oh well, maybe I better get them. Maybe it's their fault.
They should have bugged me more. They probably should. You know,
the record for the large the tallest sunflowers thirty feet
one inch. Really, that's a lot of staking. That's a
whole bunch, I would say.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Oh, by the way, congratulations on a great write up.
Oh thanks, wow.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yeah, it was a good little article, wasn't it good?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, he tells the life of Gary Sullivan? It did,
and well done?
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Thank you. Are you getting my feedback?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I am? I am?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Yeah. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's kind of nice though, because I hear you twice?
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Well I guess that's that's better than nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So what do we up to?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Well, we're just going to do a lot of summer stuff.
We've finally hit a good week of weather and uh, well,
we'll see what happens. So painting, deck, ceiling, all that
good stuff certainly in play.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Now whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoah, you said all
that good stuff. Yeah, you don't think that's good stuff
painting no deck, you know, besides building or reconstruction. No,
huh huh.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I guess you haven't cleaned your deck.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Have you?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well you know what this tells you, how I haven't yet,
and I'm going to probably next week. But you know
what's interesting is I finally had a couple boards pop up,
and I had used nails when I built this in
some of these, Yeah, and they actually rusted off. Is
that right? That's the first that shows you how moist
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it stays in that particular corner of the deck.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Well, and then they went through this era where they
had a lot of different corrosive materials that were in
the boards that would really rust through steel.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
So now you got the older stuff. You probably got
the CCA pressure tree would right, yes, yeah, wow, yeah,
well that shouldn't cause corrosion, but just the moisture of
the expansion contraction, people walking on, et cetera. Sure, those
nails will pop up just like you do when you
have a drywall issue with a drywall nail, just go
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ahead and run deck screw right next to it and
just maybe patch that area up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, everything that I added to it, like some building,
some new stairs or whatever, I've always done with screws.
But when I built that, originally I did it with
decking nails, And of course it was you know, back
then that's just what you did. But now it's all
screws with a battery operated drill.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
That's what you do there, You go, Yeah, that's good
knee work, not anymore, not anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You get yourself a little scooter cart staying off of
those knees. That's amazing. How quickly that changes in your
life too. Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Like one day it's like, I don't do.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That no more. Yeah, yeah, yeahs. As a matter of fact,
and you've been through that, I had to have that
knee drained a couple of weeks ago. Oh that's fun.
That is not a fun thing. So I'll stay off
the knee relief from it immediately. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah.
(16:06):
I don't know if it was because it hurts so
bad doing it, Yeah it was, But anyway, yeah, but
but getting down on the knees has been a little
bit tough. So I get I'm still good at bending over.
But yeah, it was amazing. I just I realized that
the other day two of the boards right next to
each other had kind of lifted up a little bit
and I touched them and they both would tick. They say, wow, Wow,
(16:28):
to replace replace a bunch of these? You said, yay?
So well my game plan. I don't know if I
should tell you're not.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Go ahead, tell me. I'll just bug you a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Uh, I don't want to replace. I need to replace it.
I mean, some of them start, but I don't want
to do it for another year or so. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So I'm going to clean it and guess what I'm
gonna do. Go ahead, I'm gonna stain it.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
No you're not, No, you're not.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Don't tell anybody.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
You just told me. Oh, and now I'm going to
hound you. Can you give me a day it's going
to be done? Well, then I'll know when to start
harassing you.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, my question, I actually do have this question for
you today. If I'm going to clean the deck and
then come back and stain it, this is a time
where I may not want to use wet and forget.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Well, if you want to do it all within like
a week, yeah, you wouldn't want to use that. Go
back to that oxygen ad bleach. I'll do a breach
out for you, right, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So just do the one time clean. Forget the wet
and forget because I've I've used we and forgetting the
past obviously. Yeah, spray in the spring, let it do
us thing through the summer.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Get a regular deck cleaner and oxygen aid bleach deck cleaner.
Mix it up, put it on. Let's sit about ten
minutes and then agitate with a streak broom and hose
it off.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Can't use my wife to do that.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
You can do whatever you want to.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Staying out of that. I'm just staying out of that.
But anyway, that is that is my plan. Because I
looked at it and said, okay, I'm not going to
do it this year, probably not next year, but probably
in three years I'll replace everything. Well that sounds like
a good so clean it, stay in it and move forward,
and don't tell Gary I'm gonna do it. That's right,
(18:12):
but I'll start asking you tomorrow. That's why I didn't
want to tell you, hey, I have a great show.
Good talking, all right, Thank you, buddy. Mister Gary Sullivan's
website Garysullivan online dot com. Quick Wick, We come back, Buggy.
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gentlemen trying to get it all back together again, mister
common Sensical himself Buggy Joe Boggs, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Sir, Good morning. You're right trying to get it back
together again. Woo.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So how are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, I'm still I still feel like I'm talking in
the barrel, you know, you know how that that ringing
in your ear and all that stuff. But yeah, I'll
tell you it's just it's been. Uh, it's been. It's
been interesting. But uh but as they say, oldering through, right,
you know, we're still trying to get things out there.
Of course I've let a few things slide because I
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was going to post the biggest, one of the biggest
splashes in the spring. What would that be actually early summer.
I always do that. So we often think of this
insect in the spring, you know, and we also think
of it as kind of in the fall before it
goes into bag. I don't know if you know what
I'm talking about, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Boy I'm just drawing a blank.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Joe drawing a bike. No, yeah, I just don't have
this one in the bag.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Do you just uh something about bags bag bag? Don't
pake me for a charade, partner bags hanging patching out
early June?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No, boys, yes, did you actually find some on it?
I did, yes, oddly enough. Okay, So, so I had
emailed you. You know I was going to have to
I was going to go get some professional help. You know,
that's what people tell us to do all the time.
And I finally decided to do it. I am too,
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to tell you truth, I have some hope of hanging
in there. So any rate, so I was was was
at the doctor's office parking lot and didn't have my
camera with me. Now, now when is that ever? I mean,
you know that I'm under the weather. When that happens, Oh,
I'll tell you. I Well, I had my cell phone.
(22:43):
But these the bag weren't the first in star. So
that's anytime we say first in star, you know this,
but some of the listeners may may want to know
what does he mean first in star. Well, that's when
a caterpillar like a moth or butterfly first hatches out
of the egg at the first in Star, and then
as they get bigger, they have to shed their skins.
(23:05):
Those caterpillars. Even though it looks like they kind of
have a soft skin, it turns out that's their exos
skeleton and it only allows them to grow so large.
So each time that they want to get bigger, they
have to have to shed their skin, just like snakes
shedding their skin. One of your favorite animals. I cited
there right now.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes, absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So these are so tiny run. I know my cell
phone I may have gotten a little blurry, but not
to the standards of the bigel and I had to
do that.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I don't know. I'll tell you what some of these
new cell phones.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Man, Well, it is true, it is true. And now
here's you know, I'm more off subject a bit. But
this brings up a good point because you and I
we do get pictures, and frankly, I know we both
appreciate them compared to back in the day when people
are trying to describe things and oh gosh, theytion. But
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but if a person is using a cell phone, So
let's say, if I did try to use my cell
phone to take a decent picture, you know, which, now
I think about it, I may have been able to.
But what we typically do when we do we think
we're trying to get a close up, is we you know,
pull bring the camera in and then we use our
(24:25):
fingers to to make the whole screen close up. You
know how you spread your fingers and yeah, well, actually
when you do that, you are reducing the number of
pixels in that picture. So you have to kind of
think about it this way. That zoom which is good
for like you know, if you want to zoom in
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on a mountaintop or something like that works, but when
you look at that picture, we look at what's in
the phone's view. Those are all the pixels that you're
going to have. And then when you use your fingers
to zoom in, what have you just done? You've just
you're just cut in half or one third or one
fourth or even more the number. I think I went
(25:09):
the wrong way there, you got it? Can't do fractions
when I have a sinus infect so any rate, So
that just makes the image more blurry. The thing to do, though,
is most cell phones have this and and it's a
good feature. If you go into the settings on your
cell phone or on on your camera, you can you'll
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find something that says macro And that's exactly when I
take a close up with my camera. My you know,
I will put on a macro lens and so if
you're shooting macro up close, you're getting all the pixels.
And I'll tell you ron it can make night and
day difference. I did a little training on this and
(25:57):
all this but last summer during one of the walk
about and it is amazing how just that little bit
right there you can take a shot of let's say,
a caterpillar, do it our old fashioned way, you know,
zooming in on it. But then we're cutting down on
the number of pixels and so and then you use
a macro. It it's like I said, they are there
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night and day. And you're absolutely right. Some of these
actually not even new cell phones. I mean, for a
while now, the cameras have been really getting good.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah. Nina Bagman, who is a queen bee breeder in Columbus,
will send me pictures of some of her queen bees
or some of the bees that came back into her hives,
and I can count the pollen on the legs of
the I mean, it's like, you got to be kidding me,
and she said, no, it's my cell phone.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Wow. Anyway, now that now we've given a tutorial on
photographing insects. Well you do appreciate that, by the way,
So you found some bagworms that were doing.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Their thing right, Well, I've told you the story and
you've had it happen too. And the reason for this
I got to go back to the you know, remember
I'm kind of halfway sick now, see sort of.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You know that's right to give me.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, I'm on medication. But you know, if you back
to the reason for taking decent pictures when you want
to diagnosis of something or you want an identification, I
I I lost this picture. I had it years ago,
or somebody sent me a picture. I think I've told
you this before. You know, what is this caterpillar? And
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I'm looking at it and it was like, is that
a caterpillar or someone's finger? It was that blurred. I
couldn't I couldn't tell. And so again, you know that's
why that if you're sending if you're going to send
yard boy boy a picture, make sure it is a
rim brand.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, because if he can't identify it, it goes to
Buggy Joe, and we want to make sure it's a
nicer cure for Buggy Joe as well. By the way,
Steve show me a really clear picture the other night
of a saw fly, and I showed him how to
tell there was between a caterpillar and a soft fly. No, no,
I didn't wear that from you.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Oh well, well you could learn it. I could learn
it back.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I mean, you know, I was.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I was agreeing because how many times now, at our
at our age, at our mature age. Yeah, how many
times at our mature age have you have you learned
something and you so excited It's like, wow, I didn't
know that, And then you realize, you know, maybe a
day or so later or so, Oh my gosh, I
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I knew that ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, a long time. Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yes, I just relearned it as a brand news thing.
So yeah, that was button bush sawfly And that was
another big These alerts.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Are gonna He said, you were all fired up. He
showed me that. He was like, oh my god, Joe
was all fired up. He said he was sick and
down for the count and had poults all wrapped around
his head. And he said he came out anyway, and
what was that possum something or other lard and something
else anyway, Yeah, yeah, wrapped around his head. But okay, sorry,
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but that was That's a good looking sawt fly by
the way, So I'm excited that you actually yeah, yeah
I was.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I was just dragging around out there at bowl your farm,
but yes it was. So here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I mean, I like, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute,
wait a minute, back up, back up for a second.
So what you're telling us is that bagworms in our
area has started to hatch.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know, we're all over the place.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Are you sick?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I mean, I tell you this is this. They're just
kind of fun, you know. Yes, bagworms are underway now
that certainly means further south where people commonly call them
evergreen bagworms because you know, we find them on so
many evergreens, and that's true, but of course we always
remind people that, well that may be true, but they
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can feed on over one hundred and thirty over one
hundred and thirty different species, maybe more. And last year,
for example, my only bagworm alert, aside from letting people
know that they had hatched like this one will be,
was a sweet gum that was just almost sweet gums
columbnar sweet gums, which I like those trees. But boy,
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they were just getting hammered by bagworms. So we have
to be mindful to be looking at your deciduous trees
and shrubs as well. But they're very hard to see
right now. They're probably only going to be you know,
me a quarter inch if that much, definitely under a
half inch. And the bags are going to be made
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out of their excrement. Now that sounds kind of bad,
but we call insect excrement frass. And it looks like
kind of ready sawdust. And at this time of the year,
at first, well not this time of the year. The
first instar caterpillars, they tend to hold the bags straight
up in the air. They don't let them, you know,
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let gravity take over where the bags are hanging down,
and so very often they look like little dunce caps.
But I have to tell you on you do have
to look closely. And actually backing up as to how
I found the infestation yesterday, was I just lanced over.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And wait, wait, wait, we're gonna have to leave it hanging.
We have to take a break. Oh no, and we'll
find out. We'll find out how did Joe find the
bag worm? And by the way, frass is actually an
abbreviation for it comes from there. No just kidding. All right,
quick break, we come back, Buggy Joe Boggs here in
the garden with Ron Wilson.
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the garden with Ron Wilson. Time for part two of
the Buggy Joe Boggs I s I Report, that would
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be Sinus Infection Report, talking about how he found the
the bagworms and his dentis parking lot. Well, so.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It wasn't a dentist, did you say dentists.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Or I said dents doctors.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, doctor, I thought I forgot No, I tell you,
I mean they'd have to really drill up in here
to get to the sinus, right kind of, that's why
so much pain. But yeah, that's right it. I was
looking at the I just had to glance over and
saw some some bags from last year. I mean, I
was going to say old bags, but then you know
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we might no no, no, yeah, no, yeah, fall some
bags from last year and uh and you know that's
that's that's a good way to detect them. Because bagworms
when they're finished, when the they're they're moth caterpillars. So
when everything is done at the end of ye and
I should have said this, there's only one generation. When
everything's finished at the end of the year, what's left
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in the bag would be if it's a female, she's dead.
She never becomes a moth or doesn't become something that
looks like a moth. At the end of the season,
her body fills up with eggs and that's where they're
at until those eggs hatch in the spring. So the
bags can hang around literally for quite some time. They
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don't just disappear, even the male bags because the males
do become something of a moth. They can't fly, they
don't look so much like a moth, but they can
fly at any rate. That's a good way to find
an infestation because bagworms tend to start very very slow.
I mean, the populations may eventually become high, but they
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tend to start out very slow for the first year
or two. And part of the reason for that is
when these eggs hatch, there's two options for the caterpillars.
One is that they can stay on the host that
their mother fed on the previous year, or they could
spin up a little bit of silk and remain attached
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to that silk, and when the wind picks up the silk,
it takes both the milk and the caterpillars. Yes, that's
the balloon. That's that's where they're they're they're at igniting
the gap.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
There's never been over there, land over there.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh yeah, no, no, you can anyway, So so they
that is called ballooning. And since and listeners may have
picked up on this, the female they said never leave
the bag, so they you know, the female mobs never
fly somewhere. So again, how do they move around well,
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they can crawl a little bit. You see them along
the highway, you know, a little TARSI out said, you know,
you hit your eye, you know, a little bit of
food from your anyway, I'm sorry, but but this is
the primary way that they move, which means they can
move quite a distance. So typically what happens, Let's say
you have a I'm going to use juniper or arborvity,
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because you know that's what we see them on a lot.
Let's say you have a row of arborvity, and you
know they look fine, and then you know this season,
you go out and look and there's this a little
patch of what's going on there a little patch of
brown or maybe you don't see that, and there's just
a few bagrooms that blew in. Well, each female is
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capable of letting up to fifteen hundred eggs. So now
when you get the original arrivers on the balloons ballooning in,
you can imagine it doesn't take long until that little
tiny infestation becomes a big infestation. So that's why it's
very important to just keep monitoring and keep looking because
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you and I get this all the time. And as
a matter of fact, it's even happened to me with
my own junipers, where a person, you know, walks past
the plants, maybe daily, and all of a sudden, oh
my gosh, I've got a brown area is turning brown,
and what are these things hanging here? As if they
just showed up right. Yes, the bagworms they use their
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host material like juniper, or like arbor wide or like
an oak leaf, and they weave that material into silk
to create something like a silk sock, and that's what
that's where the caterpillar lives. So they're camouflaged. And I
actually I do not fault people for not seeing them
(37:37):
until they cause damage, because sometimes they're very hard to see. Yeah,
but if you're looking, if you see bagworms from last
year and nothing was done, it's only to chance someone sprayed,
for example, at the doctor's office. Somebody could have sprayed
those and that does happen. I go up and I'm
you know, there's nothing there, but in this case, apparently
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no one did. So there you go. It's able to
at least see that they have hatched or all.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
You go up there and see a big hole in
the bottom of it and nothing's true.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
And nothing's there, and what could have happened there. What
could have happened, Well, you mean a big hole in
the bag, like.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
A predator, Like maybe there's a predator that comes up
and feeds on those.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know, I tell you that is fantastic ron. This
is a I mean, you're going to have to extend
the show because I can say we're weird. We're going
to go in for a couple of hours. I decided
I'm feeling better. You know, the aspirin's kicking in. But
if you if you might see big openings torn in
bags because bold faced hornets, yellow jackets, paper wasps, they're
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meat eaters and they will come in. And I've seen this,
I have pictures. You've heard me teach about it where
you know, bold face horns just decimated a bag where
infestation in a Christmas tree plantation I was visiting. All though,
you might see a hole that was from a parasitoid.
A wasp is that made a living on the bagworm
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as what some people call parasite. But a parasitoid is
like a predator that lives inside its hosts, so kind
of each from the inside out. And here's maybe the
final note about bagworms. First of all, if you do
find that, you know these early in stars, these little
tiny bags, hold off doing anything for a while because
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they hatch over time. They all don't hatch at once,
so just hold off a little bit until they get
a little bigger, and then you're more likely to get
all of them if you're planning to spray. But if
you don't want to spray, plant a lot more flowers
because those paracetoid walks rely on nectar to make a living,
and there's a good research to show low bagworm numbers
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in landscapes with a lot of flowers.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Now time for you to go and have round two
of those steroids.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Thanks, Thanks Joe for hanging in there. I hope you
feel better all right, take care. Thanks to our callers,
Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of course to Joe Strecker filling
in for Danny today was a little bit under the weather.
Thank you Joe for coming in on the last minute call.
We really appreciate it. Thank you for all you do,
because without Joe, this show wouldn't go. Now do yourself
a favor, get out there, keep planting those trees, keep
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planting those native plants and native selections. Paper your worms.
Keep the kids and dogs involved with gardening and by
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