Ron Wilson 7/13/2024 Hour 3

Ron wraps up the show with your calls. Also hear from Gary Sullivan and Buggy Joe!

Episode Transcript

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Our toll free number eight hundred eighttwo three eight two five five. I
am Ron Wilson. I am yourpersonal yard boy. I am here to
help you out to be as successfulin your yard and garden, house plants,
whatever it may be, as Ican be. And of course you
can find lots of information on ourweb site at Ron Wilson online dot com.

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You can email me Ron Wilson atiHeartMedia dot com, you know,
or you can call us on ourshow here and we'll do our best to
help answer those questions and make youmore successful. And I always welcome you
because I've always said there's more thanone way to garden. There's more than
one answer in many cases to makeyou successful. If you do something in
your yard and garden that makes yousuccessful, let us know about it.

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It's fun to share gardening tips witheach other at Someone send us a picture
this week of her big beef.Tomato said, first time she's ever grown
it. Got one that's ripened already, so it's an early ripener and it's
meaty and it's a really great andtear. She slice it a half to
show it to me. Loves it. Big beef. You know, Share
stuff like that with us. Welove hearing from you again at eight hundred

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eight two three eight two five five. By the way, on our website,
our plant of the week am Soniaa perennial. Ever heard of it?
Am Sonia? Check it out becauseI guarantee you when you see this
plant of what it does in thespring, what it does in the summer
for flowers, and what it doesfor that foliage in the fall, you're
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of them because it's such a greatplant. Talk about dinner and a show.
This one's got it. Apollinators loveit. But it's Amsnia. Common
name would be Arkansas Blue star wayunderused in the landscape, and there's several
varieties out there. There's one ofthem. It's called the string theory stays
a little bit more compact. It'sone to take a look at if you

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have a smaller garden. But you'lllike that one. Read us most requested
recipe, cherry bounce, is onour website this week. Cherry bounce.
Now's the time to do that,to have it ready for the holiday season.
Gary's mouth is watering, said cherryBounce. Cherry Bounce is good stuff,
Danny. I know, I know, you know you don't like alcohol,
but it's a it's a it's asomething I tell you. Green june

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bugs from Buggy Joe. We gotwhite pine weaver from Buggy Joe. We
have all kinds of great tips.Again, that's at Ron Wilson online dot
com. And by the way,oh wait, I had a caller,
I don't know it was last weekweek before talking about peaches, and they
had inherited a peach tree and cleanedit up and prounded out and all,
and had gotten a tremendous, beautifulnew crop of peaches on there. And

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as they picked them a couple ofweeks ago and set them on the counter,
they all started turning brown. Andthen got to looking in the tree
and the ones in the tree areturning brown. And wanted to know what
is happening with their peach trees.And I told him I thought it was
probably brown rot. But he sentme some pictures so I could take a
look. And you can never beone hundred percent looking at the pictures,

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but I'm pretty short. Ninety ninepoint nine that's what it is. And
it's seen a lot in stone fruits, and you know, I gave him
a good tip sheet on how towork on it next year to protect that.
And then with the pictures, Ialso saw some of the peaches that
were sapping a little bit, andof course that can be the results of

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a tarny's plant bug stink bugs wherethey pierce that suck a little bit of
the juices out of there, andthen of course the fruit itself SAPs.
Called fruit gomosis, I think isa common name for that, say,
a combination of things. But thepoint being is this, we try to
help you out as much as wecan through pictures or through emails, and

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a lot of times we can pointyou in the right direction. And now
next year he'll try to do somethingabout that. But the fruits and berries
are becoming more and more popular allof the time. People want to grow
their own cherries and peaches and applesand blackberries and raspberries and all of that,
and I think it's outstanding. ButI think the one thing I always

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remind folks is that, and ofcourse he inherited this tree, but is
to do your homework if you're goingto get into fruits and berries, because
fruits and berries for the most part, take a little more care than a
lot of folks think. You can'tjust plant this plant and pick fruit off
of it and not wind up doingother things to it throughout the season to
be a little bit more successful.And like in the fruit trees for instance,

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probably diseases or I would guess wouldbe higher of an issue than insects.
And you remember when we're treating fordiseases using fungicides, it's something that's
had done as a preventter more casesthan a curative. So you have to
do it to prevent what's going onlike the brown rot and spraying timely sprays

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and things like that. So youknow, again, do your homework and
realize what is involved or could beinvolved in raising the you know, your
fruits, your own fruits and berriesin your backyard. Fun to do,
easy, you know, can bedone. I don't want to say easy
to do, but can be done, you know, once you get the
hang of it. But do yourhomework to realize what's involved. OSU Extension

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put out a there. I thinkit's the most current one Midwest home fruit
production. It's about two hundred andfifty page booklet on producing fruit in your
backyard probably one of the most Ithink reference, the best reference book out
there for homeowners, and I thinksome of the commercial folks use it as
well. It's OSU Extension. Theirbulletin is nine forty. That's the number

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of it, nine forty Ohio StateUniversity. It's about thirty bucks, thirty
five dollars. Well worth it andget something like that and read through and
learn more about it and use itas your reference book. And you can
get that through OSU Extension through theiroffices. They'll order for you whatever.
But I think it's like around thirtydollars or so. It's cheap for what

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you get two hundred and fifty pagesand it covers just about everything in there.
But it's called it's bulletin number nineforty, all right, and it's
called the Midwest Home Fruit Production.But when you're looking to do that,
do your homework so you know whatyou're getting involved with when you're starting to
grow fruits and berries in your garden, backyard, whatever it may be.
All right, to the guarding phonelines, we shall go. Joe and

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Cincinnati, Good morning, Good morning, Yes sir, Yeah, I wanted
to call on about some great resultsI've been having the boxoid. It's been
dying off in my yard good andit's been an issue for a lot of
folks, and the beginning of theseat that it just looks horrible this year,
and I just was trimming off thedead spots and I put a lot

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of polytone down on them, andI thought I would try to let them
he know, So I didn't doany trimming at all other than just clipping
off the dead spots. The resultshave been phenomenal. They look super healthy
again, and uh, just gettinga lot of great green growth coming off
the areas where I did have totrim them back. Just was wondering if
you're hearing a lot of other peoplehaving the same results, or are we

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seeing a turnaround with the bottom we'vebeen having with the box with Yeah,
I think we are. As amatter of fact, We're I'm getting fewer
and fewer folks saying what I'm stillgetting a few folks Joe saying what happened
to our box? Would that arejust now realizing that, you know,
the last two years we've had someissues. But I think it looks like
we are now starting to see aturn around that corner and the ones that

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folks you know that you know hadheavy vault you tell or whatever, putting
all that out and cutting them backand giving them time have seen a good
flush or new growth. I thinkwe're back around again. I think we're
turning the corner with boxwood, Andyeah, I agree with you, and
I'm seeing fewer and fewer cases ofthis, and a lot of folks did
go ahead and take out some ofthem that were really bad and replace them,

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but not having any issues with thoseas long as they're watering with a
drought obviously and being so dry.But other than that, I agree with
you. I think we're seeing thefolks turning the corner and the boxwood turning
the corner and starting to look alot better again again. Joe Boggs and
I we've talked about this before.Had we not had that cold blast two
years ago before Christmas, would wehave even been addressing the issues that we've

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been addressing with box what over thelast two years. May not have now,
you know, we've had other things. We had the box with leaf
miner coming on. We've always hadthe sell it. We've got got the
box tree moth in our area.A couple places here and there. But
would that have been an issue,you know, the vall you tell on
the other issues had that not happened, and probably not. But you're right.
As time has gone along, folkshave taken out some, they've caught

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them back, They've fed them withthat holly tone. They're coming back out
now, flushing out. They're lookingpretty dark good. So I think box
would for the most part, isturned the corner. Now. We still
have the issues out there that we'llhave to keep our eyes on as far
as the insect issues. But Ithink you're right. I think we are
turning the corner. And I'm gladto hear that you've been very successful with
your box wood so far. Allright, Jeff, good, you too,

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good talking with you all right,real quick. Jim in Virginia,
West Virginia, Good morning, Goodmorning, Ron. I got apologize.
I promised to get you a DVDabout my brother's farm, so that's coming.
Okay, I'll keep watching, Okay. I have been growing containers in
five gallon buckets from big or Swellhome depots and I last year I had

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a great crop at Big Berth ofpeppers, and this year I am growing
the same big berth of peppers,and I'm getting brown raw as starting on
the tip of the pepper, andit goes halfway up the pepper and then
it just broughts the fruit. Whatam I am I short in some kind
of soil additive or something. Yeah, more than likely, what you're talking

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about is blossom rod and the endof that fruit, all of a sudden
it starts to turn brown and you'llsee it go up the side. And
it's the bottom line is it's thelack of calcium in the fruit. You'll
get it tomatoes. You can getit in the cucumbers. You get it
in squashed but you'll see it alot in tomatoes and peppers and in container
grown plants. Sometimes if there's nocalcium there, or if you're not watering

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on a regular basis to move thecalcium into the fruit, then we get
this blossom inrod. Can it becorrected absolutely if you use a fertilizer like
I use Aspoma's Tomato Tone and thathas about ten percent added calcium. So
I use that in the containers becauseremember your potty soil basically has no calcium

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in there, and so I willuse that in those containers. And then
of course keeping good even moisture thereas so that calcium is taken up inside
the plant. So you know thatit's a lack of calcium, but it's
a combination of adding calcium to thesoil, good even moisture to get the
calcium to move up into the planetinto the fruit, and that usually will

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correct it. Now, won't correctthe ones that are affected now, but
if you haven't added it, andyou do it this weekend, it can
help to correct it on future fruitas we look you know, through the
rest of the summer as fruits beingformed. But a good again, good
even moisture in the container and addcalcium, and I like that. I
think one of the great ways youcan use calcium nitrate if you want,

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that's available for you. I likethe Spoma's tomato tone, a little bit
of fertilizer, all natural, easyfeed, but it also gives you that
calcium. At the same time.The fruits that are on it right now,
you know they will a lot oftimes will rot, so you just
might as well get rid of those. But the new ones coming on,
hopefully we'll be corrected by getting thatcalcium back in that soil, all right,

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quick break, we come back timefor Gary Sullivan and at the bottom
of the hour, Buggy Joe Boggshere in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Ron Wilson. Time for the man, the myth, and the legend.
His website is Garysullivan online dot com. And of course you know Gary Sullivan.
He is the most listened to homeimprovement show host in the entire Solar
system. Ladies and gentlemen, weare honored to have on our show,
the one, the only, misterGary Sullivan. You're trying too hard today,

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I am. How are you,mister Wilson, I'm good, You
good good. I'm curious. Wehad on the Dwayne Pancoast earlier, the
Geriatric Gardener. Did you think aboutwriting a book about the You know,
Jerif I knew you were going togo there, I just knew it.
Me too, I knew you weregoing good. I knew it. He's

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an oct octogenarian. You know whatthat is. Congratulations, he's in his
eighties. I didn't know that youdidn't n I didn't know what that meant.
Well, good for him, Sowhat are you? I'm not talking,
I know, but I'm not.I'm not in your category yet he

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got another other couple of months yetturning sixty. Huh yeah, all right,
forty. No, I just Idid not know what that was.
And then there you go. NowI learned something new. That's awesome,
though. Yeah, what the heck? Gardening is good for you, right,
it is good for you, Holme. Improvement's good for you as long
as you stay safe. You knowwhat's not good? What moles? Moles

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mm hmm on your scanner in yourground, moles and bowls. Yeah,
we have a lot of calls aboutthose, you know what. I probably
don't get as many calls about molesas I used to until the hills,
those little hills show up where they'redigging there. And then I guess,
like my basement only leaks when itrains, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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But the vole issue sometimes remains aquestion mark because they're like, you know,
my plants girdle, or my rosejust fell over out of the ground,
or I've got these tunnels in mymulch or I've got these tunnels in
my grass, not under the grass, but in the grass, And like,
what are these little things? Andof course they're voles v O l

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e s. And I guess,as hot as it is, probably they
like shade anyway, don't they.Yes, they do. Yeah, So
cleaning up around landscaping that helps getrid of them. I guess it can.
A change of habitat obviously, uh, you know, works quite nicely.
But the kicker is, you know, vowls v O L e s
and and moles get blamed for alot of stuff that voles do. Moles

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get blamed for all kinds of stuff. And you remind folks, you know,
they're they're bug eater. There wasa bottom line. They don't do
anything else they eat. Don't eatinsects, earthworms being one of their favorite
sources of food. Voles, onthe other hand, will eat your finger
if you get in front of them. But I mean they chew the bark
off of trees and elaite seeds andnuts and fruits and all kinds of stuff.

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So crazy a little bit. Whenyou're hungry, you do that when
you are hungry and thirsty. Itknow what was underting? The lady asked
Anyway, the voles, Yes,I was going to talk. They were
talking about tomatoes. The fox intheir woods are coming up and eating their
tomatoes, and I said, youknow what, I got a funny feeling
they're looking for moisture. Yeah,they're thirsty, so they're going after their

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tomatoes. But anyway, the volescan do root damage. And I literally
have seen knockout roses that fell overout of the ground. Really were the
voles that chewed off all the rootsdown below. I went and saw burning
bush that have been there for yearsand just up and died, and they
had just girdled them where the multwas piled up around the trunks. Yeah,

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they just girdled them. I've seenjuniper hedges where they just sheared the
bark off the outside of the brancheshuh and h and destroyed them. So
yeah, they're pretty nasty little crittersand they're they're smaller than a field mouse,
but they could do a number wellchanging the environment. In fact,
I had you and you'll enjoy this. I had a person call last weekend,
I guess wanted to know how toget rid of moles and voles,

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And I know you've had that questionten thousand times, and so have I.
And you know, I told himabout all the different things that are
out there, but he lived rightnear a big woods. He said,
good luck natural habitat. Yeah,and I had somebody call him says,
there's a product, a castor oilproduct. We both heard about that for

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many years. Yep, I mustgarden mole and vole. You ever hear
that? Well, what you know, what? The castor oil still there.
As a matter of fact, mostmole and vowle repellents are all castor
oil based. So anytime you seethat listen on there, it's castor oil.
And sometimes they'll add a few otherherbs, but they're all almost all
of them are castor oil based.So it's still out there. Yeah,

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you know, depends on what thedelusion is, I guess yep. But
you know, the most effective wayis physical removal for both of them.
Yep, that's what I always say. And snaptraps for the voles is still
one of the best ways to getrid of them. Got to cover it
up so nothing else gets in it. But they do work. Gary Sullivan,
Yes, sir, have a greatshow talking about home improvement. Check
out his websites. Gary Sullivan onlinedot com. Coming up next, Fucking

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Joe Boggs with Ron Wilson, notgardening questions. Ron has the answers and

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it's gonna be hot the next severaldays. So again, you know,
it's tough on you and me andthe pets and the cows and the pigs
and the chickens and everybody out thereand the birds and all the nine yards
and the bugs and Buggy Joe andBuggy Joe and Gary Sullivan and me and
Danny Gleeson and Joe Strecker. It'stough, and it's tough on you and
the big dog. It's tough oneverybody. And again you got to stick

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with the I can't stress enough stickingwith proper watering with these plants. As
we get through these really hot periodsof time, it's it's hard on plants.
And you know you're gonna see someleaf scorch out there. You're gonna
see a branch diye here and there. You're gonna see a tip of a
branch kind of brown off here andthere. It's going to happen. But
keep up your watering please, veryvery important. All right, it's time
for the Buggy. Joe Boggs apartmentster. Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor, Ohio

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State University Extension, Hamilton County AssociatedFaculty OSHU Department of Entomology, co leader
of the OSUE Extension b E hT Team. Also book Ie Yard and
Garden, and of course the websiteis b y g L dot SU dot
eu. Ladies and Gentlemen, BuggyJoe Boggs. Wow, my question,

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my question, mister Joe. Yeah, we had questionable. We had Dwayne
pancoast On earlier. He is thegeriatric gardener writing books about it adaptive gardening,
and then uh, we're talking toGary about doing maybe a geriatric home
improvement book. Would you be interestedin doing a geriatric entomologist book? Yeah,

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I mean I like I like thatidea because you know, people don't
realize it. Insects can sometimes livea very long time, so we'll just
be talking about very old insects.Is that is that what you have in
mind? Am I getting this wrong? No? No, that's exactly what
I was talking about, that's right. Yeah, some beatles or their mandibules
have been replaced as mandibles, youknow, you know what, that sort

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of thing, you know what's interestingAnd I probably didn't, probably didn't catch
the interview, but talking with him, you know what, the things about
this book, and he's got thisnumber two now with more more ideas for
senior gardeners. But one of thepoints he brings up is the fact that
if younger gardeners look at the tipsthat he's sharing for older senior gardeners,
they may garden blogger in their lifeby doing it a little bit easier than

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what they think they're doing right now, which makes a lot of sense.
You know that, No, thatdoes make good sense. I mean,
it's it's interesting. I wish Ihad paid I mean, do you find
yourself thinking about this ever so often? I wish I'd paid more chance and
more attention to how my ninety plusyear old grandfather got around. I'm not

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you know, we're not there yet, right but you know, very seldom
you're looking towards the edge. What'sthat happening? Nothing, he's not right
now? Anyway, Dan said,it wasn't very nice to say that,

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Well, you know, the thingis, and seriously that you look at
you know, older gardeners and whatthey've learned. And that's a big thing
to me. It's that you knowwhat works what doesn't work. But also
you know, as you've pointed out, just how you go about doing things.
You know, when let's face it, things aren't working quite as well

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as they used to. Now.I'm talking about you know, like uh,
you know, different insecticides and fertilizers. I'm not talking about the gardeners
themselves, right, right, that'sright, you know what. But but
you're you know you, I thinkyou're kind of me. Sometimes when I'm
doing a project or building something,I like doing it myself, you know.
I like doing myself so I andI think I got that from my

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dad. I think about things abouthow I do this so I can hold
that board there, or do thiswhatever without somebody else there, How I
can do this, you know,without hurting me and doing whatever. I
mean. I moved a thing outof our living room the other day,
and the guys showed up to bringin our new cow said how'd you get
that out of the house, AndI said, well, I've just figured

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out how I could move it andget it to a certain angle and blah
blah blah. Took me about anhour think about it, and then I
got it outside. But you know, you know, thinking about it,
you know, to do things likethat so you don't hurt yourself thinking it
through. And again I told him, I said, you know, look
at this. The title of thisbook could throw you off, but he's
right. You know, if youlook at this these tips when you're a
thirty or forty year old gardner,it may make you last longer. And

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you're right, your grandparents way backwhen, how did they do the things
that they did and got it done? Yeah? Well, you know,
and and digging out stuff so youknow, I had a couple of uonymous
shrubs in the front. You can'tuse dynamite alone the foundation your home,
Joe, I told you, Well, not well, I got yes,

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I need to call Gary about fixingthe cracks in the basement. I don't
really understand how well. I mean, that's an opportunity for a root seller,
right, you dig right out intothe hole that your You know.
I hope nobody's just tuning in becausewhat what did? What did they do?

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What happened? But I don't knowwhat work. I started working on
the remnants of these you want,And of course we both know that there
there are just a few shrubs thatyou have to think very hard before you
plant them. One of course areour universe, right because eventually you might
be digging them out, and soyou should always be thinking ahead, in

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my opinion. And these two uanimousshrubs, they they had looked good for
many many years, but of coursethey were in a very small, confined
root area, and just over timethey just thought, you know, we
had what we call sectional die back. And that's a very important term because
I'm starting to get quite a fewpictures with trees and shrubs showing sectional die

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back, and that means that youhave a section of the tree or shrub
die And why that's so important isthat you know, so how I transitioned
into something there? I kind ofyes, yeah, very But why that's
so important is, you know,for example, I had some pictures of
an oak tree, said to methis week, and in looking at it,

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and there was just one section ofthe tree that was where the leaves
were turning brown. The rest ofthe tree looks fantastic, and so so
that eliminates a lot of things rightaway. I mean what could cause you
know, one part And of coursewe think of something you know, above
ground first, almost always because that'spart of the tree we can see.

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But in this case, of course, it was below ground. And what
had happened was that there had beena very large It took a while to
get to this, and don't youlove when you've there had been a very
large truck that had been just consistentlyparked right under that part of the tree
of the shade. And that's happenedto you and I before, right we
you know, way back when that'swhere we parked cars and trucks were under

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the trees and the shade, yep. And I kind of forgot. I
kind of forgot about it, tobe honest with you, Rob. So
I kept looking at the picture,looking and I could see, you know,
okay, on one side, thatside that was being affected, you
know, had some you know,depressions that looked like in in the in
the grass. And finally, okay, yeah, that's where they had been

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parking this huge truck, you know, time and again. Now, maybe
there were some leaks and so forthcoming from the vehicle, but more likely
it was just simply compaction of thesoil. So sectional die back is a
really good symptom for people to beable to when they try to get help,
you know, to be aware thatyou don't say, my whole tree

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is dying, because when that's happening, of course, we look at a
lot of different things, like maybeof vascular wilt disease, if a whole
tree is dying, and so Ithink, probably there's a clock I'm looking
at, and i'd say, whatwe got about a minute before a break?
How'd you like that? Less thanthat? Oh? Less than that?

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Okay, wow, I tell you. I you know, after all
these years, I think I'm gettinghe's getting You're getting closer. Another twenty
years, isn't on the head right? Nail it perfectly? Well, we'll
be octagenarian radio people. I hadno idea. I'm sorry, I'm not
dumb. I had no idea whatthat meant. No, you know,

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you know we don't hear those works. We don't hear that as often.
I'm smart. I'm listening. Iwas thinking, Yeah, we don't hear
that word as often as we usedto. Of course, I'm a sectionarian,
okay, cars a step to genariananyway, that's what it's said,

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I looked it up and I'm sorry. That's what it is, all right,
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Garden from Wilson, Time for parttwo of the Buckie Joe Boggs Report.
Mister Joe Boggs, I wish youextension website b Y g L. I
thought I wish you dot e you, Yes, sir. The time I
was with it got quiet there afterthe dastardly dance. Uh you know the

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music thing. Oh we're getting carriedaway now, aren't We got to get
it all in now? So I'mnot here next week. Oh my goodness,
we're in trouble. Yeah, you'reso. We're transitioning right now.

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In terms of of of galls gA L L S calls, you know,
I always I had a person onetimes that's spelled g a w L
like galls. I never thought ofthat before, but you know, with
our accents, you know, sometimesit does kind of get drawn out.

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But we we've had leaf golls,for example, in oak trees. Now,
one I'm looking at right now andmy pictures I just took some last
week is called an oak sour gall, and we talked about this earlier in
the year. And these are theylook like cotton balls that grow on oak
twigs, mostly oaks in the whiteoak group, and they arise from buds,

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so you know, they don't reallycause any harm to the tree.
I mean, one bud is sacrificedwhen the little wasp you know, lays
an egg there and are actually multipleeggs, and then that causes the bud
to develop into a gall instead ofa regular twig or leaf. But that

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has to happen as those buds arejust about to start elongating into whatever they're
going to be, right, Imean, we call it, you know,
bud break. So it's tissue thatthe wasp can take over in essence
and hijacket to produce the gall.So these galls can develop, you know,

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from a bud and so they're justsitting looks like they're just sitting on
the twig or There are other typesof gulls produced mostly again by wasp and
the family Snipity snip and wasps thatdevelop on leaves. So these are leaf
balls that you know, may maybe on the surface, so the upper
surface or lower surface or whatever,but they have to start from the buds

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in the spring, and as theseason progresses, we say that the gall's
mature, just like you know otherthings maturing, and that means that the
gall maker is inside there the immaturewasp and is developing. At some point,
you know, that gall maker completesit development and then new wasps emerge.

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Now, of course I always emphasizethis. You know, the saar
wasp, they don't you know,they're very very tiny little things, and
you know they do have oval positorsegg layers, but they're not modified quite
the same way to sting. SoI'm not talking about wasp that can sting
or cause any concerns to people.But when those adults emerge, then we

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say, you know the gall isis is spent. You know it's done.
And that's happening right now. We'restarting to see a lot of these
galls that are changing colors, andsometimes because of the color chains, they
really stand out, like these theseoak sour gulls. They've gone from white,
which you would think they would standout, and they kind of do.

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I mean, you know, cottonballs hanging on an oak tree something
you might notice. And now,yeah, now they're very brown, kind
of you know, tennis brown,and they really stand out because against the
green leaves. But everything's over,I mean, in essence, if you
open one of these up and lookinside, you'll see these little kernels that

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have you know, kind of afiber material attached to them that makes up
the gall. And you see alittle hole in those little kernels. Well
that's where the immature wasps develops.The point being is everything's done. Those
loss go off and and ron.They very often create another type of gall
somewhere else in the tree. Butat the end of the day, they
cause no real harm to the tree. And that's the emphasis I want to

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place on this. The vast majorityof galls on trees and shrubs that just
CAUs no harm at all to thehost. But they can sometimes really stand
out. And I've gotten a few, you know, emails with pictures attached.
You know, what, what arethese things? You know, what

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should I spray? And of course, obviously, well you know that's not
going to help because even some ofthe galls that can cause harm, we
don't have a lot of information onhow to manage them, right, we
don't even know And so in essence, we just need to step back,
learn what's happening. And I actuallysay maybe even appreciate what's happening. And

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when I say that, you know, of course people what appreciate galls?
Well, when yeah, really iswhat Well, what's happening beneath the surface,
so to speak, is that waspwhen she lays her eggs, she
also injects chemicals that turn genes,in the case of oaks, for example,

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genes that are part of the oaktree on and off to grow these
structures. And each species of wasponly produces a specific type of gall.
So in essence, when you lookat them, when you look at the
galls, you have to say,well, all the information to grow that
gall was embedded in the genetics ofthat tree. Now, we've never there's

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never been a scientist, there's neverbeen anyone who's ever duplicated this. And
I always say, well, youknow, if we could, if science
was able to advance to the placewhere we could figure out what exactly is
going on in other words, theyare chemicals that are turning genes on and
off at just the right time togrow these structures. Just imagine what we

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could learn about the entire tree itself. And again, I don't know why
that work isn't more commonly being done. You know, you and I've talked
about this for years, but itis kind of behind the scenes, sort
of an incredible story happening, butthe story that doesn't lead to really any
great harm to the tree. Andas I said, it's just the galls,

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in my mind, are just somethingthat's a part of nature that really
does it should be, in myopinion, kind of appreciated in terms of
what can happen in nature, youknow, when you have these things happening
right before your eyes. So youknow, there, I say, well,
maybe we should appreciate galls to somedegree. With that, I'm sure,

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I'm sure Dan is just about hitthe mute button. I can hear
it, I can feel it,you know. You know, I'll tell
you what one tough insect that cando that. Really that makes a gall
that just I don't know how theydo it. Is when you see those
galls on poison ivy leaves, Ohmy goodness. Yeah. Yeah, Now
that's one tough bog right there.Yeah, that's a little area fied might

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that does that and it and don'tthose those gulls look exactly like what they
do to us, doesn't it?What yeah ivy does us? Yeah,
it looks And of course I alwayslike to laugh because you know, poison
ivy can't scratch itself, right,you know, it's just like it's just
it looks. It does look exactlylike that. Well, you know again

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if when you get out there andwalk around, look closely at different things.
Uh, you know, another gallthat's showing up right now is on
golden rod. It looks like alittle round white spot. And that's not
produced by a wasp. That's actuallyproduced by a little midge m I dge
midgefly. You know, most gollsare produced either by wasps in one family

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snippety and then as as you've justbrought it up, and then area fied
might, those are little little tinymites that can do the same thing.
And and now we're at the thirdgroup of arthropods. Actually, I should
say the midge flies a very definedfamily sessitimieties the family, and they can

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produce some really fascinating looking things,but that we don't have a lot of
time to go into in depth.But the ones on Golden Rod are worth
reading about because they're pretty fascinating.They we'll get you money to do some
research on how that exactly works.Kind of finish you get a career on
how gals are actually made. Yeah, well know when we're both octogenarians like

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Gary. Yeah, that's right,Thank you buddy. Your box website again
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Well, I hope Joe can makeit happen. There's just gonna be

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Joe. Oh I let the getout of the bag, all right.
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