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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yardening, cruising right on through
this month of July and believing or not think about
this six weeks seven weeks out from the first of September.
I can't believe that college football will be back. I
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will be into the fall season. Hopefully we'll have, you know,
a nice cool fall after this warm summer so far,
but looking forward to that. But I'll tell you what
you're talking six seven weeks out. You want to make
sure you start believing or not putting your plans together,
especially if you're going to do some re landscaping, add
trees this fall, you know, whatever it may be. Get
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your plans in place now, especially if somebody's going to
do it for you, so that when as soon as
the weather breaks we get into the fall season, they're
able to get out and they get that taken care
of for you. So it's coming up. In the meantime, though,
we're taking care of all those plants that we planted
this spring and trying to reap the harvest, enjoy the
benefits flowers, fruits, and berries. I hope vegetables. I hope
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things are a little bit later in our area than usual,
but they're coming, they're coming along, So stick with it
and stick with this weather. Rain to days, nothing tomorrow,
shower the next day, ninety degrees, eighty degrees, whatever. But
that's the way it goes. It makes it more fun
that way, right when you don't know what's going to
happen the next day. Hey, before we get back into
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talking about plants and taking your calls at eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five, I want to
kind of a sad thing last week that we learned
about the death of someone in our industry that has
been a major influencer on what we talked about on
our show, other gardening shows. In the garden centers, your
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what you're planning in your yard and garden and containers
as well, and that's perennials. And you know, I've told
the story many times that when I was in high
school and even first coming out of college, back in
those days, perennials were a nothing. You know, at the
garden centers, you were you were lucky if you had
ten different types of perennials, six hostas, two day lilies
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and a couple other things. That was it. I mean,
that was it. And even at college not many classes
available for learning about herbaceous perennials. But that all started
to change as it went. And a few years after that,
I even remember saying, I think a lot of these
perennials use them in the landscape, you know, are like
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weeds or whatever. Well, I do regret saying that, but
as I got to learn about them more and become
more aware of them and their benefits and all the
great selections that are out there. Of course today is phenomenal.
Their sales and garden centers and the nurseries and all
rival those sales of annuals and shrubs in our landscapes
and containers. But it was the fact of getting the
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fact that getting perennials more well known to both growers,
garden centers, and of course you you know, you the
folks that are buying them, planning them in their in
their gardens. And you know it took the foresight of
doctor Stevens Still to pull this all together. And doctor
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Still I was I didn't have him as a professor
at Ohio State, but he was there for like twenty
five or thirty years and did a wonderful job. But
I got to work with them early on, starting back
in the early eighties. Because he had this vision, growers
kept coming to him and his goal was a perennials
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all right, was learning more teaching about perennials, and that
was that was his his goal was. His vision was
getting perennials out there more and more, and a lot
of growers and retailers coming to him and try to
figure out how we can start growing more perennials, which
ones that we grow, et cetera, et cetera. And in
nineteen eighty three he put a conference together in Columbus, Ohio,
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and I remember going to that. Our company, Natorp's, and
many other garden centers and nurses around the state backed
this thing up. Went to this conference focused on perennial
plants and it was a great conference. I think it
was a couple of days on a little bus tour
or whatever. It was great. And doctors still put that together.
And after that conference was over, they got together and
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they put together they established the Perennial Plant Association. And
every year you hear me talk about the Perennial Plant
Association's Perennial of the Year. They put this association together
to help promote the awareness of perennials and their use
in the gardens and of course growers growing them, et cetera,
et cetera, and the Perennial Plan Association, as strong as
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ever today, continues to go on. And doctor Still, by
the way, he was executive director until I think twenty eighteen,
so he had a lot to do with that, and
of course with Ohio State, and you know, if you've
got a chance for him to be a professor, was outstanding.
He wrote the manual which is used by many universities
around the country, The Manual of Herbaceous Ornamental Plants by
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Doctor Stephen Still, and I have my copy, and I
think a lot of folks do as well. But that's
still used in many universities around the area. But unfortunately
he passed away this past Friday, and sad in our
industry to hear him passing away, way too young. But
you know, what a great job this man did. What
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an inflame it's on our industry. And again, when I
think about perennials and where they are today, and my
knowledge of perennials of course, you know, and learning about
them from what I said many years ago, and not
having any classes or hardly any classes when I went
to school. Now of course there are lots of classes
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and lots of learning, and of course they are a
mainstay in our landscapes today, and rightfully so he brought
I really give doctor Stephen Still the credit of bringing
perennials to the forefront of our gardens today. He is
the one that really that was his vision was to
you know, get everybody aware of these perennials, and by
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creating the Perennial Plant Association and all he did with
that just phenomenal and it is where it is today.
And that's why so many perennials are out there today,
and that's why there's so many great selections, and it's
and and why we're using them more and more and
we talk about perennials more and more. Is I still
say the foundation to all of that was doctor Stevens
Still And I will always think of him. You don't
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want to think of perennials and the and in our industry,
because he really did bring that to the forefront. And
of course the first book I had learning about them
like a doctor durr uh you know with the Woody
Ornamentals was the manual of Herbaceous Ornamental Plants, which is
still available today by doctor Stephen Still. He also, for
the folks that live in Columbus, was the first I
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think executive director of the Chadwick Carbretam and brought that
thing to where it is today, which is phenomenal. Uh.
He also was behind all of that as well. So
our condolences to the steven Still family. But I'll tell
you what, when you think of perennials in our industry,
doctor Steven Still was the man that really brought it
all forward and made perennials what they are today, I
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truly give him. I mean there was a lot of
people behind it also, and the growers and the retailers
and all, but I got to give doctor Stevens Still
the credit for bringing us to the forefront way back
when and make perennials more popular in our landscapes and
our gardens and our containers whatever it may be. So
thank you doctor Still for doing that. And again our
consult condolences to the Stephen Still family. Passed away last Friday,
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I believe was when he passed away. So just wanted
to bring that up. By the way, I do want
to mention one more time, and I brought this up
last week on our show. We have if you have
boxwood in your landscape, if you're in the east of
the Mississippi and you have boxwood in your landscape, I
want you to make sure that you're inspecting your boxwood
on a weekly basis in our area. And we're seeing
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it showing up in Indiana, now West Virginia, New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Delaware,
It's in ben In Canada for about five years, in
Michigan and now in our area, our immediate area. If
you live in the Cincinnati area, Claremont County, Hamilton County, Butler, Warren, Green, Montgomery,
and Miami Counties, box treemth, a non native insect, is
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just really wreaking havoc with boxwoods. Now here's the kicker.
If you inspect your box would and you find it
before it gets started, you can spray them, get them
under control, minimize the damages. If you don't, only takes
two or three days and all of a sudden your
box would have turned totally brown. And that's amazing. These
caterpillars are just unbelievable quickly. They can eat and destroy
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these boxwood we are finding if you get in there,
spray and get them under control, et cetera, et cetera.
Cutting those boxwood back. Many of them are recovering and
regrowing from down low, but you got to cut them
back hard get them to come back up again. But
again it's a matter of all of us monitoring those
boxwood on a regular basis, looking down inside, look for
little brown patches or whatever. As a matter of fact,
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I've got a great link that Joe Boggs and the
Extension put together that I'll send to you, or you
can go to their website Big Old bygl dotways you
dot to EU and look at the one called box
Tree Month confirmed in West Virginia that has all the
links on there for you to learn more about it
so you know what to look for. The sprays for
spraying it are unbelievable about anything, It says Caterpillar on
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the bottle, including BT which is at the top of
the list. We'll control them, but it takes a couple
apps and real good soaking of the plant, et cetera,
et cetera. And you can learn more about it from
those links. But again east of the Mississippi. I don't
care where you live, keep your eyes open for this
particular pest in your boxwood. But in our immediate area Hamilton, Claremont, Warren,
Butler Counties, Dayton area, Miami, Montgomery and Green Counties. It's
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out there, and boy, we're getting a ton of responses.
There's multiple generations. We had one earlier flared up in
April early May. Now we're getting that second generation. Could
be a third one depending on how warm we stay.
But they can do a number on your boxwood. So
keep your eyes open, monitor on a daily date basis,
weekly basis, and again you can spray and get them
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under control, but you got to catch them early. And
if you want to learn more about them, email me.
I'll send you the links. Or go to byg L
dotsu dot eedu and look to scroll down and find
the posting for box tree moth confirmed in West Virginia.
Quick break, we come back a little home improvement from
mister Gary Sullivan and at the bottom of the hour,
Buggy Joe Boggs, it's all happening here in the garden
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with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (14:31):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for the Man, the Myth, the legend. He is the
most listened to home improvement show host in the entire
Solar system. Now his website if you want plenty of information,
I mean it's full of you can't believe the content
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ladies and gentlemen. He is right here with us and
you can hear more from him as we introduce him.
The one, the only, the Man, the myth, the legend.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
This cool Wilson.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Mister Sullivan, how was your lawn looking?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I was going to say, what's with this stuff? I'm
tired of mowing?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Is it growing? I'm tired of mowing you and I
tell you what we've got. The showers have been very
timely at our house and I'm assuming at yours as well.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Till last night. So we had a downpour last night
around nine o'clock. A buddy of mine who lives east
of you by about four miles, had four and a
half inches of rain in an hour.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
And we had it. We had a heavy downpour.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We didn't get anything of.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Nothing.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well, it is it is body four and a half
inches in an hour. That's That's the premise of the
start of my show.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Today, is what the rain?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Well? Yeah, and you know we're always talking about the
killer g's and how to control the water around the
home and all that good stuff. You get four and
a half inches of rain in an.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hour, that's hard for any system to handle.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah. I mean a lot of your gutter guards and stuff,
they're rated to eight inches of rain an hour. I
don't think so eight inches. Yeah, I'd like to see
that happen.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I wouldn't want to be there.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
No, I wouldn't either, and I don't believe it. But
that's crazy stuff in it. I had pictures of window
wells that had filled up because a lot of them
don't have drains. Those that have drains are usually clogged,
so water's coming in basement windows and eth. It's like, yeah,
that's crazy. Well, yes, my grass is growing, looks quite healthy,
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mister Wilson.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Good, that's good. I mean we're seeing a little bit
of lawn disease here and there, so it's good that
yours are staying nice. You mow at a high level,
you mow on a regular basis, is deeply rooted, you
feed timely. Yeah, you keep it, you keep it in
pretty good shape.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
But I have to admit, usually by this time of
the year, I'm mowing every ten to twelve days.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, but it's I'm still moving.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I'm still mowing every four days. And it needs it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And we've you've got, like I said, you've gotten the
timely rainfall.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Joe Strecker and we all know Joe, he you know,
in the south of US, hasn't gotten anything really yeah,
I mean, he said, as dry as a bone at.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Their house west of you, guys, I've got nothing so really.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Crazy stuff I don't know. By the way, we were
in another free concert last night, another eighties cover band.
Oh yeah, and we still looked around, didn't see you guys.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Didn't that it wasn't there? Was it last night or Thursday?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Last night? And Mason, Oh okay, yeah, they're getting into
that now too, so oh I.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Got to have the music. No, it was the first
evening we sat on our porch with another couple and
just nice, so kind of caught up and turned up
till the nine o'clock rain. It turned out to be
a beautiful night.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Good.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, it wasn't too bad. Good. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Did you talk home improvement.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Ron when you get together with people? Do you ever
talk gardening?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
As little as possible?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Really? Yeah, Well, I'm not going to say it dominates
the conversation, but no, it does. It's somewhere in there.
We always cover a little home improvement.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I always think it's funny because folks will say, don't
pay any attention to my landscape or my yard when
you walk in and you know, come up from the
driveway or whatever, it's like, you don't want I don't
look at I don't. I don't pay any attention to
that unless you got something really cool to look at.
Otherwise it's no, I don't. But I'm always open to
talk about and.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I always ninety percent of the time. If somebody ever says,
I hate to do this, but can I ask you
a question? I go like, sure, you can ask me
a question.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I always say no, I'm off the clock. Oh
and you know what they do, well, anyway, I got
this plant that uh.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Oh, they talk right through it. I certainly would never
say that to me.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Now, he's not gonna say that to me. Nah, I
say as a joke, because I'm more than willing to talk.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
About Well, you're like me. It's kind of who you are, right,
That's who we are. So answer away, big boy.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That's it. So what kind of home improvement we are
we going to talk about besides those four g's.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Well, we will spend some time on the whole water
issue because there's a lot of things we can do too,
and you know, from changing a little grating to make suing.
The gutters are tightened up against the house. And man,
I had somebody sent me pictures of an attic with
mold all over it. And it wasn't the rain. It was,
as I traded some questions with this person, that was
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ventilation from fans just dumping it all into the attic.
So we're we're going to just cover a lot of molds, mildew's, humidity,
rain leaks, and repair.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
All right, Hang on a second, Yeah, mold in my attic? Yeah,
like on the wood, Yeah, on the underside of the road.
Could be really person who wrote said she's had some
remediation companies that talked about getting rid of the mold
getting rid of the stains on the wood and removing
all the insulations. She is that necessary? I said, Well,
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mold can't grow unless there's moisture and there's a lot
of humidity. Well, we corrected this when we corrected that.
But you know, I can't see where the mold is
on the insulation.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
But if it's molding, yeah, you might want to remove
it even though it is dormant. Yeah, so yeah, it
can be a big problem.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well that sounds like an exciting show, as they always are.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I'll try my best.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I have a great one, Gary, Garysullivan online dot com.
Be sure and check it out. All right, quick break,
we come back. You know what's up next? Buggy Joe
Bobbs Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson, Green time or.
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Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Is
time for Oh are you ready for this?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
The Buggy?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Joe Boggs and Joe Boggses says a professor commercial order
for your House State University Extension Aways your department Atomology
pushed the boy for early two extensions co creator Martha
Coffee and for hum. Their website happens to be b
yg l dot OSU dot eedu La. He's a gentlemanster
commons cygecal himself Bucky Joe Boggs. Come on, come on,
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let's give it up. Let's give it up for Buggy
Joe Boggs.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
I don't know what's going on here.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
There we go, There we go.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
That's the that's the right button. Yeah, I tell you
the crickets though, I mean that that could be appropriate
depending on what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Right, If I counted those how many crickets? How many times?
In forty seconds plus thirty I get the temperature?
Speaker 9 (24:01):
Yeah, that's right, you know, two three four? Yeah? What
is I think it's forty degrees in the studio. Oh
my gosh. I'll tell you. Well, you know there is
there that that actually does work out. Unlike later in
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the season when Moly bears start coming out right and
we and we.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Start, uh, what's to do with bears?
Speaker 9 (24:32):
Well, you know there's some of these things that people
you know will report that have you know, scientific veracity.
There are other things that well, it just it just
they're just great stories, right, So wooly Bears, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
The yah, yeah you run that one for all of us.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
I know I did, didn't that's terrible. But you know
other things though that we come across, well, I'm just
talking talking about, for example, this past this past week,
getting out and about and taking a look at things
and finding all kinds of different interesting things that that
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you start saying things like, well if I got if
I got four inches of rain in an hour, you know,
I might not have to mow because by lawn just
got washed away.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I'd you like that, Yeah, yeah, washed away.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
Yeah you're right, it got washed away. Yeah, seriously, I
I am amazed. But when I was hearing Gary talk
about that, we got we because you point this out before,
and I think it's kind of neat you and I
and Gary almost live in a line, don't we. I
mean west the east, and so you know, since our
weather tends to go west the east, we tend to
have the same the same things. But I only got
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brushed slightly by by that rain last night. It was
one of those odd things where you're sitting there and
all of a sudden you hear it outside and I
kind of wasn't expecting ring. And at first I didn't
know what. I knew the sound, but didn't I didn't
put it together right off the bath, like, what in
the world is that? But then, as you just said,
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as he said, you know, the later the late news
indicated that there were some substantial downpours. But I think
we all three kind of experienced a little different And
I and and talking about Joe Strucker having a dry
area and all that, this is going to really be
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a difficult thing in the future for us to put together.
You know why some people have a problem with newly
planted trees or shrubs others don't you see, I'm heading
it's just this different.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, the spotty Ron Roethlis texted me when when I
said that about Joe Strucker, and he said, I'm not
that far from Joe, and I've got three and a
half inches so far this month.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
Yeah, it's been incredible and you can sometimes see it.
You know, yesterday there was a line that went below us.
I went out on the front portion and looked and
you know, he was looking south and it was just
it was black on the you know, as you look south. Yes,
it was just it was it. You could tell it
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was was really stormy, just not very far south. And
of course you could see it on the radar, which
you know, you and I are old enough to recall
when when people would say see it on the radar, right,
you were probably in a plane or on a ship.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, radar, that's exactly right.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
I just thought of that. I'm sorry I got I
drifted in a different direction there. But but it is
amazing to me that that we are experiencing such a
tight gradient, you know, in in the rainfall my own landscape,
you know. Actually, actually I was happy to get that
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rain yesterday evening. The lawn has been doing pretty good
and brown patch has been doing great. You've probably noticed that,
did witch?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Did I tell you about that? Last week? I was
at a traffic light. I was looking, yeah, but the
sprinkler's going.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well? I stopped. The lawn looked pretty good. It was
a very nice, well manicured lawn. But you can see
the brown patch starting to show up in the in
the lawn well, in both corners of the of the lawn.
They had their sprinklers.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Going, oh in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And it was about eleven thirty.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
Oh. Perfect, So it had to be a plant pathologist
that works in turf grass, right. They were just.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Said, I should take a picture of this for Joe
and put make sure the time's on. Make sure the
time is on this, so you know what time during
the day this irrigation was running on this lawn with
brown patch.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
So that is perfect. You know I need to I mean,
what do you.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Think right away? I mean, your long starts to brown out.
What's the first thing? You think I need water?
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Well, that's true, that's true. You think you're getting dry patches.
That's a very good point. You know, I need to
drift into something that you and I have talked about
it in the past. You know, I've talked about it
quite a lot in the past, and this idea of
this disease triangle, because right now there are quite a
number of diseases showing up apple scab on crab apples.
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My gosh, if I've over the last two three weeks,
how many emails have you gotten that mya and oh
my goodness. And then of course why do I spray,
You know as well, you might want to mark down
next year. But even under these environmental conditions, I'm not
sure a person can spray their way out of it.
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And and that, and to teach this again, we refer
to the disease triangle where if you can picture, if
your listeners can picture, one side of the triangle is
the environment. You have to have an environment that's supportive
of infection, and that's very very important. The other side
of the triangle is you have to have a host
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that is susceptible. And then finally you have to have
the pathogen present. So if you can picture your mind,
this triangle environment post pathogen, and here's what's the neat
thing to me I've always thought about the disease triangle
is that if you knock out any one of those sides,
just one, you take away the host. For example, the
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susceptible host. You can have crab apples that are resistant
to apple scab. So you knock out one side of
the triangle, there's no disease development. And so my brand
patch in my lawn is associated with two things. One
is that it is a type of tall rescue that's
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obviously at The second though, is that we're having this
environment you just pointed out perfectly, and that is that
in the afternoon. As much as I'm appreciating this year
having rain as opposed to last year, right, I mean,
at this time last year, we were very worried, right,
just you know, we had southern California weather. But this year,
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I'm happy to have the rain. But when it does
come in, you know, the one o'clock, two o'clock, and
then you know it's already hot. And then right after
the rain, you know, the temperatures rise, the humidity rises. Well,
brown patch, the fungus which is there, I mean it
was there from previous years. The spores were there, so
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they could it was already there rated to take off.
And honestly, I don't know if I had the best
sprayer in the world, I'm not too sure a fungicide
would have gotten ahead of the environment. So that's important
for people to keep in mind. And by the way, too,
you talk about this a lot. Once you see the
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symptoms of a fungal disease, it's too late because infections
already inside the plant, and infections alreadyccurred inside the planet,
I should say, And we really don't have fungicides that
work like our insecticides that we call systemics. You know,
there are some fungicides that kind of work that way,
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some for you know, for trees, that kind of work
that way, but not quite as effectively. So once you
see the symptoms, well it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Too late, buggy Joe Boggs valuable information. Before we take
a break, I'm going to throw this out of you.
So trivia question. All right, don't use your don't use
your computer to find the answer.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
Right, I've got my emploise.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I'm ready to break to convert cricket chirps to degrees fahrenheit.
The old thing was the number of chirups in fourteen
seconds and add forty. There's a name for that. There's
a name for that process. What's it called. We'll take
a break and bugget Joe Bogs will give us the answer.
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Speaker 1 (35:21):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Buggs you port
Mister Joe Bugs Assistant answer for Stitch by the way.
Their website is b y g L dot O s
U dot E d U. Do you have an answer, mister.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Boggs, I I cheated. I had to cheat. I had
Now this is every time every week there's a little
bit of a tidbit that we both learn, right, I
mean you come away. It's a so hold forth ron.
I had never heard of what this was called before.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well, I I hadn't either, to be I be honest
with until this past week, and I had looked at
up and it's called dole bear law.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
Yeah. I mean you think as an entomologist that would
be something and I never so hold forth. It's really
a neat story.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, it is an interesting story how I came up
with it. And you can also he has the formula
for Celsius as well.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
It's true, it's true. That's for the crickets in Europe. Yeah,
crickets in Europe. I mean I have to do it
there too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
By the way, I signed you up for that edible
insect class. Oh no, mark that down please, I have
a previous commitment. So yeah, dough Bear's law. I did
an amos doebear and that's a I didn't know and
back in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
It's not like something new eighteen ninety seven it said,
and look at this, you know, and it was they're
thinking the tree cricket. See, that's important because every cricket,
you know, just like you know cicadas. You know, I
posted a an alert about dog day cicadas. We commonly
(37:08):
call them, but we should call them annual cicadas. And
how they all have a different song, so you can
you could identify the species based on the song. Well,
it's the same with crickets. So that's kind of important,
you know, it's important that that the cricket particular kind,
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that you have the right cricket. Yeah, so I need
to dig into that a little bit because I have
a feeling, you know, this Amos Dollbear, you know, maybe
his brother Amos Moses, you know, has a different.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, for a living, he is knock them in the
head with a stomp.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
I knew you. Yep, Yeah, this is terrible.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
This is terrible.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
I kind of figured, you know, the Jerry Reid comes
out right, I'll meet too. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I don't know what else you wanted to talk about today.
I just want to mention real quick on our website.
We have the we have some of the postings from
this week, but I like the one about stop the seeds.
Carrie put that one together and I think, you know,
it's a good point.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
Did a great job, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
About you know how much they can affect you after
they flower if you let them. And I thought the
giant rag wee was was interesting. Ten thousand, three hundred
seeds per plant.
Speaker 9 (38:35):
It's amazing, isn't it. Yeah, it's amazing. It is amazing. Well,
and that's the reason, you know, you and I talk
always about I mean, we've talked about poison hemlock how
many times, and we've talked about it's you know, the really,
in my opinion, slightly scarier, maybe much scarier, wild parsnip.
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And I was just visiting a park just last week
and the wild parsonhip seed is it's there, it's ready
to go. And of course there aren't quite as many
seeds on that plant as poison hemlocks. So back to that,
you and I talked about that numerous times that if
we let these weeds go, so well, I'll do something
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about next year. Well next year, as Carrie pointed out,
and she did a great job and she showed a
lot of different weeds. Yes, you know that we that
we fight and you let it go till next year,
and then of course you've lost the battle literally because
you went from just a very small number to a
whole army. I'll tell you the Canada thistle. I had
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the experience this year.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I was going to bring that one up because that
just that those stats blew meal out.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Well, you see it whenever you're walking around. And of
course this year we had a pretty we even talked
about it. We had a pretty heavy cot and would
fluff event the house. To say it, the cottonwoods really
really produced a lot of fluff this year. And of
course you and I saw pictures. There were some posted
that look horrendous, but that's at a at a certain time,
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a little a little later when there shouldn't have been
any cottonwood. I was in a local park and and
all this fluff was flying around. At first, I was like,
oh my goodness, I mean, could there be some trees
that that kind of got, you know, kind of was
delayed a little bit, you know, a little cottonwood. But
as I got closer to the source, it turned out
it was not a very large patch of Canada thistle,
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and that seed was just blowing around to beat the band.
And as you said, the number of seeds are are
just outrageous, and of course we had. We can't forget
when Canada thistle, when it gets started, it starts producing
underground rhizomes and so you see a ca it's literally
called a colony. It makes it impossible to get rid of.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I had done some research on this, and and and
correct me if I'm wrong, but I read in several
things that that a a the roots from a Canada
thistle with no foliage on top could last up to
ninety to one hundred days with no foliage.
Speaker 9 (41:20):
You know, that's really interesting. I'm not going to correct
you because that's that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You could just stay there and then ninety days later
all of a sudden pop up. But I think the
other thing behind us she should talking about up to
you know, five thousand seeds per plant. But I think
what's even more interesting we don't think about is that
it says when they were buried one to three inches
in the soil, forty five to sixty percent germinates the
first year, but less yeah, but less than one percent
survives after three to five years, so the viability isn't
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all that long. But when buried at greater depths in
the soil left undisturbed, Canada thistle seeds had been found
to be viable for up to thirty years years.
Speaker 9 (42:01):
That's and we call that the seed bank. Yes, and
we're all.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
You tell something up that hasn't been tilled in thirty years,
and all of a sudden, this stuff pops up, and
it's like, where did that come from? Surprise?
Speaker 9 (42:13):
Well, that's unfortunate with with topsoil. I mean, you and
I recommend this quite a lot when someone's really dealing,
particularly if you bought if you bought a home, and
let's just say that during the grading and all that,
you know everything, you're sitting on subsoil. And so you
and I would recommend that people where you're going to
have to buy topsoil. You know you're gonna have to
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bring it in, you know, go to yard sale or
something like that. Yeah, by and by and buy topsoil.
But you know, topsoil, there's there are no regulations governing
what is topsoil. It's just the soil on top and unfortunately,
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you know, there should be I mean, if you have
and I should say reputable cellar won't do this, right, Ron,
We have some great topsail top soil cellars. But at
the end of the day, sometimes you do get weeds
weed seed because that soil wherever it was harvested, had
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we's and you're exactly right, and they may not pop
up immediately.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, no doubt. I don't know if you noticed, but
our plant pick of the week this weeks came from
both you and Ron Rothis yours being in the Comfort
Compass plant, Ron's being the Indian Cup. Those are featured
plants of the week this week.
Speaker 9 (43:33):
So there you go, outstanding.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
I know you're on vacation next week, so we'll have
a great vacation. We'll talk to you in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 9 (43:42):
You take care of right, all right.
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