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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about yardening.
It is hot, hot hot. Speaking of hot, hot hot,
let's kick it off with the cup of Joe, mister
Joe Struck, our executive producer. Let's take a look at
what's going on his hot landscape, his backyard, front yards,
hide yards, wherever you wanted to go, Okay, where it's
(00:56):
up to you, of course, our website at Ron Wilson
online dot com Facebook page. In the garden with Ron Wilson.
Good morning, sir. Yes says it is hot, very very yes,
yes it is. It is dang hot. It is dang hot,
and it's July. It is July, so it's supposed to
be hot. So good pool weather, believe it or not. Oh,
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here we go. I have been at the pool twice
this week, our community pool. What ye twice with missus Wilson. Wow,
walked down to the pool and took a little dip. Okay,
So what kind of suit does Ron Wilson have? Does
he have auspos all the way normal one or one
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of those old timy ones where it's like overalls. Yeah,
that's that's me. I need s spinners to keep him
from falling off of me. What's good? Good? And glad
you got out? Yeah, got to my pool. I haven't
been in the pool in a long time. So she
commenced me to go up and take a dip. So
we did a couple of times. Did you canon ball? Uh?
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You know as funny as I did? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Did?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
She got in there a little There wasntybody to pool there,
and then she got in a little raft and she
was floating out there and I cannonball just all of
a sudden, made a little cannonball and done that a
long time. Nice, that's fine. And it hurt me for
a week. I'm sure it's like, oh I forgot how
much that hurts. Well, you're not and you're not young anymore.
I can't do that. No, you gotta be careful a
little bit more about stuff like But I I enjoyed it.
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I'm a whimp. I've gotten as worse as time has
gone along of getting in the water. It was cold.
When it's cold, well, you know, you get into water,
it's a definite difference, and you know it takes whats
your stomach and all you're like, oh, go get one
of those deals you got that minute before you get
and I saw it, like you know, and I'm become
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really bad about this, like I just come on, just
just jump in, come on, just do it. I stand
there for ten minutes and then finally take the dive. Finally,
you just do a cannonball. If I just do the cannonball.
That's why I find said, just do the canniball, just
get in and go. So I did do one of them.
Did you do a jack knife too, No, just a cannibal.
It's not deep enough to dive into. So I'm glad
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it was that fun I finally, So it's a but
you almost funny, is I was? I haven't been. If
I if I fell out of a boat in a
lake today, I would drown. Really yeah, I mean I could,
I could swim. Or if you were taking pictures of
the new Cleveland browns helmet, would you drown? I would drown.
I just can't. I don't have the endurance. I mean,
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I'm overweight. I just there's no eyes. Just said swimming
in that pool. I said, if I fell out of
a boat in the lake, I would not make it
to the shore. Well, just just so you feel better,
sad thing, and talking about that too was the what's
his face? And the cosmy kids? Oh yeah, oh my gosh,
that's horrible. He got caught in an undertoe. I got
Carly and Meghan reminded me. We got caught one time out
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of the outer Banks in that and I could not
get them back. We couldn't get back onto the beach,
and it just kept taking us down and taking us down,
and I really did think we were going to make
it out of there, and finally broke through. It got
them both pushed up where they could get out, got
myself out, so and that was not even close to
what he was dealing with. I'm I'm gonna just stick
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to going swimming in a pool and just forget about
the whole ocean thing. We can enjoy the ocean and
just don't go in. Yeah, I mean he could set out, hey, sorry,
stuff touches me and the ocean, get a beach chair, yeah,
and enjoy the wind coming off the ocean. And I
guess that was a dangerous beach that he was on too.
There lots of warnings about that, but it's not gonna
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happen to me. Unfortunately, it did that's very sad. So yeah,
that really was said. And I'm sure you also said
with mister Osborne. Oh of course, I really you know
what I'm mister Hogan. You know what, both of those guys,
I really felt part of my childhood. Yeah, I really
felt kind of bad about I mean, you know, celebrities pass, Yeah,
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but I really did. I mean I really liked Ozzie.
I really liked Black Sabbath when I was a kid.
I mean, think about when I was a teenager, Black
sab Ajer. You probably listened to him in your car now,
So that's what I'm saying. And they still listened to
Black Sabbath today. And of course Hulk, I mean he
changed changed the world and wrestling. Oh yeah, yeah, it's he.
It was, it was you know the reason why it's
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worldwide now is because of him. There's no doubt he
made it what it is. Yeah, even the other wrestlers
admitted to that. I mean, like, you know, we wouldn't
be where we are if it wasn't for Hultkvian. Yeah,
that's a fact. That's fact. So I guess he'd of course,
he'd put doing a lot of steroids and that takes
a toll on you after a while. Oh and you
had a lot of back isshoes. He said he had
(05:38):
twenty seven surgeries in five year period. Yeah, at an
interview about six months ago, and mostly on his back. Yeah,
and they had the few apparently the last one he had,
they fused some vertebrae together and he had complications after that.
And now he's now he's uh wrestling in the sky
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with Roddy Piper and Andrea the Giant. Roddy were out
and let's Savage and the Junkyard Dog of course Dick
the Bruiser. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's it's sad, but yeah,
and I mean it's very sobering because it's part of
your childhood. It's just like oh yeah, because usually when
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I mean, you know, when when that was little, you know,
when celebrities died, they were like they weren't really my
celebrities or my parents celebrities. Now they're my celebrities. I'm like, wait,
wait a minute, Yeah, you guys are supposed to die. Yeah,
you know what idols you looked up to some of them,
So yeah, absolutely, But the thing with Jamal was that
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was that was that's tragedy. That was just awful. Man,
sad news. Yeah, I hate to see that. So who
had a guess do you have the day? Yes? Today, Yes,
it's going to be a very unusual show today. You
want to know why? Why is it going to be unusual?
So breders? Do you need? That's like twelve of them
diesel beats? What are reminder somebody's hungry? Goodness? Think back
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before we COVID, we used to have people in the
studios in studio in studio right what Yeah, well, guess
what on your way out this morning, when you're going
down the elevator, I need you to let Ron rothis in. Okay,
remember you used to do that. Yeah, he's coming in.
He's in the house. But he's also bringing his two kids.
(07:31):
Oh cool. They wanted to see how a radio show works.
Part of their Girl Scout Boy Scout projects. So they're
gonna be there watching their broadcasting. Their father Yeah, do
his thing on the radios. Cool. Yeah, So we'll have
them coming in the next coming in, So make sure
you don't forget to let it out. I'll leave the
door open to bring him up the other way. Prop
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it up, prop it up in with a box and
somebody said, you know, we had all the cicadas, but
nothing was mentioned about the mole increase the populations. It
was all increase that goes along with it. You know,
people don't complain about moles like they used to. But
if you noticed, about six weeks ago there were moles
trapping signs everywhere or sooner than that, before the the
(08:13):
cicadas came out. But anyway, I said, you're right. So
guess who I got a hold of the man, Tom Schmidt,
the moll man. He said he is experienced, he has experienced. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. He has experienced three of those
seventeen year cicada outbreaks. Wow, show you that he's been
in the business a long time. Yeah, my goodness. So
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he's going to talk with us this morning about U
and he did say, yeah, most definitely, the moles go
up up and down with cicadas, going to have them
on and uh, yeah, then we've got Gary Salvan and
Buggy Joe is on vacation today. Yeah, he's a lot
to take vacation. There's only a lot to take vacation.
Or in the winter time, he's in that state up
north that he can't even pronounce Wisconsin. I just said,
(08:58):
I said, you can't say the name when you're on
the radio. But yeah, you're going there on vacation, Wisconsin, Minnesota,
so it is. It is a nice day, okay, the
light touse stuff. But anyway, so they stuck with me
and Ron talking about cool. So there you go. Cool.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The website is Ron Wilson Online dot com, Facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Hopefully people are enjoying
the changes to the uh pictures like this week's kind
of I don't get any kind of well, you know what,
you didn't know I had been to the pool this week?
You only feedback I've gotten this from you. No one,
(09:41):
no one ever says, hey, Joe anymore of but stuff
like that doesn't seem like but anyway, you didn't even
know I had gone to the pool. I didn't. That's
pretty interesting. Yeah, it was just actually have to check
that one out. I just kind of thought because because
it was so hot, you know, may as well have
something that's related to or maybe you're gonna break the
news you a pool in your backyard. No that's not happening, okay,
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just making sure so on the website. Yes, there's a
there's a couple of things from the Extension night service
this week. Glow worms for one, Yes, and uh, I
guess the softly Yes, yeah, yeah, I think about soft lies. Yes.
This week's Rita's recipe is definitely down her alley from
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her background. Yes, it's pronounce that correctly. I looked at
that to her three times. What the recipe? Fatouche fatouche, Yeah,
fatouche fat tousche. It is a nice little I guess
that's like a salad. I guess the salad with with
flat crumbles in it. Yeah, and that's what the fatouche
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comes from or whatever. So yeah. By the way, that
trading food is really yummy. By the way, Missus Wilson
and I traveled and drove out to see mister missus
hiking film. Really yes, how about that? Put shoes on?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
She made me take them off, so as we got there,
we both had to leave our shoes in the car. Really.
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Took her a couple of
butterfly boo pee vines that she makes te's and dies
out of it. We grew special for her. Did you
try some cherry bounce we did not. I saw it,
but we did not try it. It's too early. But
(11:24):
she did mention, she did mention that she needs to
make lemon cellow. You can still sample it. She heard
you talking about can still sample it now. We didn't.
We didn't sot spin little time. I didn't make it
into the bottle and a little access on the side
on the side, but we got to spend a little
of the time with her, took Miley out. Miley got
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to see the chickens and stuff like that. So cool. Yeah,
see the garden. Very fun. So I finally finally did
visit the Hiking Fell's house. I never get an invite. Yeah,
planet I invited myself because I had the plans for it.
So there you go. The the plant of the week
is spider spider plants. Why wouldn't the heck would you
pick spider plants. One of the oldest house plants out there.
Everybody's had a spider plant because they're cool. Because of that,
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everybody there is so easy to grow. Yeah, very colorful.
You get the little airplanes, little spiders that hang off
the side. But what a lot of folks don't realize
is that's a great container plant for your annual planters
during the summer. You can even use it in the
ground as a border if you're just looking for an
annual border plant. And the smaller spider plants they make
it looks like a riope. It's a tropical obviously, so
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it's not gonna overwinter. But they're great in containers, filler
plants for containers, they're great in the ground, great in
hanging baskets. Way are used and other things besides a houseplant.
And it's also always in the top ten list of
best air purifiers when it comes to houseplants indoor plants
as well. So it's been around a long time, but
it can be used in many other cases situations besides
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in the house. Very cool, there you go. Awesome, Well,
tough for me to head on out and get my
twelve burritos. He might get some ash browns to somebody's hungry.
We a diet coke something. By the way, I got
a picture from the doctor after they left Mexico. Yeah,
he was at a NASCAR event. What telling you, man?
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What is the deal there? Doctor? Laura's paying nights there?
If they're hiring I don't know. Goodness, Yeah, there's a
picture of him and first turn it NASCAR. Last Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, good for him, he's enjoyed. We're just so jealousy
enjoyed having enjoy it now because once you get married,
all that stuff goes away. I did not say that
you did. But it's true, isn't it. A you sidate
I did not. It's true. Though I did not, you
would admit that it was true. It's true. You're shaking
(13:56):
your head. Yes, I am not shaking my head. Yes,
you're sick in your head. Yes, as you were saying,
my head is going like this.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
No go.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
If I had a camera in the studio, it's my
word against yours. Oh, I don't forget to let the
out the arbor. Doc. You get a box in front
of the front door. All right, don't scare the kids.
I won't all I appreciate it. Joe Shuck, our executive producer.
If you like, we see on our website Ron Wilson
online dot com Facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson, which,
(14:24):
by the way, it means if Ron's here, he's not
going to be on the chat room to the face.
Won't be unless he's gonna do it on his phone.
In between breaks. Interesting anyway, Don't blame Joe struck Er,
Blame doctor Z because it's all his fault. He's on
Garden eighty three. He's at Garden eighty three, Washington d C.
And Turn three and no, he's a Turn one and
(14:48):
maybe three too. I don't know who knows uh right
around his vespa Bowser on the back. I don't understand.
Sweetheart goes on the back bowser in the sidecar. Come on,
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Speaker 1 (18:17):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardny gonna be an unusual
show because after the bottom of the hour, Ron rothis
is gonna join us the tree at Arbor Doc. We're
gonna talk about trees, obviously, and if you've got questions
about trees, this is gonna be your opportunity to talk
with Ron A lot of times we have them on
the show and you know we uh we just it's
(18:37):
one on one with Ron and myself and uh don't
get to talk with Ron specifically. Well guess what we're
gonna Well, we haven't. I'll take you this. We haven't
had somebody in our studios, uh since COVID. So he's
our first return. Well that's what I mean. But guess
Joe and Joe. But guess wise, we have not and
we have new studios and it's a different way to
(18:58):
get up here in all nine hearts, so's he would
be our first guest in and studio since COVID, So
it'll be a lot of fun. Ron's, of course, as
you all well know, knows the weather like the back
of his hand, and he knows trees even better, and
we'll hit him with all of those, so taking it,
he's more accurate than some of the weather people we
have on TV. I compared him to Pat Berry. Yes,
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I think Pat Barry, being a not non meteorologist, still
was one of the best weather forecasters because and he
was funny. Sorry, he would just kind of do what
Ron's doing, and you know, look at what's going on
into make an evaluation. And I always thought he was
more accurate than anybody else. But we all know how
accurate Ron rothis is. So we're going to talk with him.
As a matter of fact, he's also gonna have two
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of his kids in here today with us. We'll see
what they're like. If they're crazy like he is, or
they just chilled out taking it easy, you know, etcetera, etcetera.
So we'll see Jason and Allison. I believe Addie, I'm sorry,
I remember the A. We'll be in here also, so
we'll see if they take after run or or what
it may be. Or maybe they'll come in here and
start talking about weather and trees. Who knows. But anyway,
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one to four warn you because after the break we
will get into the discussion with Ron. We're gonna talk
about trees, We're gonna talk about whether we're gonna talk
about bugs, and as I mentioned, Buggy Joe Boggs on
vacation this week, So that last segment is gonna be
uh tree, Ron and the other Ron talking about all
kinds of things there in place of Buggy Joe Boggs.
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But we're taking your calls. Eight hundred eight two three
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Speaker 1 (22:57):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that told number eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five talking about yardig don't forget our website, Ron
Wilson online dot com and uh, the plan of the week.
You know, I was talking to Joe about that with
the spider plants. I'm telling you, that's a plant that
flies under the radar. You can use that thing for
so many different ways, indoors and outdoors. They're tough, they're durable,
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full sun shade, and you can propagate your own makes
it really easy. And you got lots of fillers with
the spider plants. But again, check it out Ron Wilson
online dot com. Now, as I promised, and I'm not
going to give him the big introduction like we normally do,
nor are we going to have the yet. I don't know,
maybe we will. The crowd cheering in the background, who knows.
But it's time for weather. It's the weather and in
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the trees, and this time it's a little different because
he's in the studio and he's gonna hang around for
a while. Uh you know who I'm talking about. He's
our registered consulting arbist, amateur mediorologists, I say, board certified
master arbist. It goes on and on and on his
website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, mister.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Ron Roethus, good morning, how are you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm good. You missed the cheers in the background. I
do Sorry, computer just locked up.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
You would think, with this large crowd in the studio,
what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Oh, you meant their compute. You meant the computer for
their microphone. Yes, yeah, I got it. Now I understand.
Now I got to fix Yeah, there we go. Rons,
there it is. Now you gotta feel better, better late
than ever, better late than that weather mic was obsout,
you know. So now they get to see what you
actually look like. I do reboot their microphone, you know, yeah,
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I get it totally.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I have a face for radio.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So you know I didn't say anything. I said, I
said nothing. So are you staying busy this summer?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's the understatement of the century. Trying to keep my
head above water with all the just various all the
water with all the water in some areas. But just
we are busy as can be, as busy as we've
ever been this summer.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Why is that not just because it's the arbor doctor.
I mean, honestly, why are there more things going on
with trees this summer than in the past. Are more
people involved with taking care of the trees more than
they were in the past. What are you seeing?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I don't know that I can put my finger on it.
I do think that part of it with me is
just that I've been in business for twenty one years
and so you get a lot of referral sure that
way and things like that, and that's a big part
of it for me. But there are a lot of
trees having problems, I mean, and it's it varies. I mean, like,
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for example, the other day, I looked at three very
old oak trees which the person was concerned about and
ended up being that they legitimately should have been because
there were some very serious fungal infections in the base
of one of the trees in particular, But all three
of them had a very serious fungal infection at the
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base of the trees, and they were fungi that wrought
out the root system and the base of the tree significantly.
And I you know, my specialty is tree preservation, but
I had to, you know, give them bad news that
those trees probably need to come down. There really wasn't
too much that could be done. The one fungus, brittle
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cinder fungus kind of flies under the radar for a
lot of arborous but it is a fungus that can
decrease the wood strength at the base of the tree
by seventy to ninety percent and cause the tree to
just basically snap off and fall over. So when you
find that one in combination with oak bracket fungus, which
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basically rots the roots out from the bottom up, it's
not good. And this was an eighty foot tall tree
that was already leaning. It was over the street and
over the wires, leaning because of the over time, just
the roots over time. Yeah, it wasn't a grouping, so
I mean, it wasn't it wasn't progressively leaning from the
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standpoint that it was ready to you know, progressively follow over.
But you know, the weight of the tree was all
offset toward one side, toward the street, and it had
fungi at the base, which we're rotting out the root
system and rotting out the base of the tree. And
I you know, when I say that, I don't want
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to scare people, you know, I mean these were trees
that legitimately should have scared people. But it is a
message I think to people that when you have larger trees,
they can have issues that need that need attention. Occasionally
they need to come down. But you know, what I
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find is that fear. A lot of people make decisions
about trees based on fear, fear of the unknown, and
if you actually understand what's going on with the tree,
you know, in this case, it was kind of a
worst case scenario for this oak tree, But many other
times things are going on with the tree where yeah,
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there's some branches that could fall out of it, they
can be pruned. Yes, the tree has a large canopy
that maybe is catching enough wind that could cause branch breakage.
But some selective branch reduction can be done to reduce
the amount of windload on a tree. I mean, things
could be done to mitigate that risk down to a
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lower risk. And so rather than being scared of the
unknown and just cutting a tree down that has incredible
ecological value and sociological value. You know, having it looked
at by a consulting arborus, by a certified arborist who
knows what they're looking at, who who is experienced in
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tree preservation, can really give you a peace of mind,
can make the whole situation safer if it needs to be,
if that, if any type of risk needs to be mitigated,
and can allow that asset to really stay there for
a long period of time, because it could. You cut
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a big tree down. I've seen calculations that it can
take two hundred and fifty saplings to equal the environmental
benefits of one lost from the one tree you have
more mature tree. And that's if the two hundred and
fifty saplings all survive.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Which often they don't. Almost never happens. Yeah, so let
me let me ask you this. So you saw that
you were there, you saw that it had that the
problem with the disease, you know, it's the king. Can
you actually look at that and somewhat determine how long
I mean, did is that something that you needed to
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take out right away? Was it still strong enough? The
tree still looked healthy enough that it could last for
another two or three years? I mean when you look
at something like that, do you try to say, I
think we can pull another two or three four years
out of this before it starts to we need to
get rid of it? Or is that how do you
make that call?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Well, part of that is knowing what the what the
pathogen is, what the fungal organism is, right, because it's
just like with cancers and people some you know, I've
had some skin cancers that are kind of minor and
the dermatologists that said, yeah, we have to take care
of them. But if you don't, you'll be fine for years,
you know, just slowly get worse. You know, melanoma comes
(30:38):
along and it's an emergency. You know, it's kind of
same thing with this. So yes, very often we have
fungal pathogens and trees. You almost never have an older
tree that doesn't have some degree of decay in the trunk.
And trees like that can be preserved, I mean, they
(30:59):
can be worked with and we try to make determinations
as to how extensive the decay is and things like that.
But knowing what the pathogen is and what the mode
of action is really helps us out. You know, the
brittle cindric fungus doctor Christopher Lully, who's a national expert
in wood decay fungi lists that is the number one
(31:23):
fungal organism that arborists should be familiar with because its
mode of action is really, really bad. So when you
find that in a tree, there's one or two trees
that I'm working with that that have it that I'm
very cautious with them.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But we're.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
We're fairly confident that those trees, you know, the infection
hasn't spread very far. But when I find bertle cinder fungus,
it's a major red flag. And more often than not,
i'd say those trees can't be preserved.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
And if you're finding those oak and we got to
take a break here, you find those with oak trees
you're talking about, you find it more with the red
or the red oak.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
It's actually the most common in maples and beech trees.
But I don't know that I've found it in a
in a white oak that this was a pinoak that
we found it in the other day.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, because I remember one time you and I both
saw the same I'm pretty sure it was a red
oak that had just high winds and it just snapped
right at the ground and you could see that it
had been decaying. I mean there was it just separated,
It just fell over. I mean this thing was three
feet in diameter.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And that's not unfortunately, that's not uncommon with some of
the red oaks. And but again, people, aren't you unnecessarily scared.
A lot of that is a situation that can be
identified and determinations could be made by an expert who
really knows what they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
And again that's where we always come back to having
somebody come out and take a look at your trees
on a regular basis, just like you go to the
doctor on a regular basis. That's the arbor doctor to
come out and take a look at him. So you
can watch for things like that and do whatever is
necessary because preservation of the tree will take a break.
Come back, talk about why that's so important, because you know,
(33:17):
one of the things you brought up was if we
do have to finally cut that big tree down, it
takes two hundred and fifty other trees to try to
compensate for what we lost. And if we could have
saved that one big tree, how important that is, including
planting the other two hundred and fifty trees that are
out there talking with Ron Roethlis, he's the arbor doctor.
Before we take a break, let's go to day and
talk to our good buddy Dick from Dayton. Come oning.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Good morning, Good morning to your guests. Great chair, Ron
and Ron and Danny run.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
And run and Dan. Yeah, so how you doing?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah? Did you tell him I used to work at Loaves.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
As a matter of fact, he knows. He listens to
our show all the time. And he said, of course
I know who Dick is from Dayton, and he's and
that came up. He used to work at lows, used
to load a lot of marble chips and top soil
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Dick is famous. We all know Dick.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
See that. There you go.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, I'll tell you Ron, it's just funny. My family
was all gardening, my uncle Carlo and my cousin Carla
k and my mom and dad did a lot. But
you know, you're from northern Ohio and she had a
big garden there and she used to bring zucchini. My
uncle's did, and my cousin was around here. He came
(34:37):
down to see me and was real nice. We went
out and saw my friend and everything. We ate a
Bob Evans. But as you know, Ron, I'm a musician
and I get to Cincinnati, Dave takes me down and
it's just it's just nice to know you people there
and the station I Heeart Radio is beautiful down there.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I love you, Hey, Dick. My father was a professional
jazz musician. He played drums.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh did he yety?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Now what kind of band?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Uh? He liked jazz, big band jazz, bebop jazz, That's
what he was really into. But he played his entire life.
He passed away a few years ago, but I mean
he played from the time he was in high school.
He played in bands around town. I think he was
playing over the Beverly Hill Supper Club the week before
it burned down.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Was it sort of Dixie Land? That's the kind of
music we played in Kettering. Banjo was all on the
Ohio River. And it's funny, Ron, it was on my
little board out here. I was in that banjo group
for forty one years and everybody broke up, and now
I'm playing just around, you know, retired, and.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
There's nothing wrong with that. Keep your neighbors, you know,
keep your neighbors happy. Play that music for them. They're
gonna appreciate that. And don't forget. Get with somebody to
find out if you can assist teaching like middle school
ukuleley lessons, so you can get involved with that and
share your let you know what you know with a
(36:12):
lot of students out there and encourage more to play
the ukuleley. We gotta go.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Dick.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Always a pleasure talking a good day, all right, you
two Dick from Dick from Dayton. There you go, quick break.
We come back talking with Ron Rothis he's the arbor Doc.
His website arbor doctor dot com. Got a tree question,
Ron's here for you eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (38:37):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. We're taking your calls about anything yardening.
But we do happen to have Ron Roethlis in the
studios with us today in house. First time since COVID
started that we've had an in house guest. We've been
doing all over the phone or yeah, the computer or whatever.
(39:00):
So it's good to see his ugly face in here.
And and I say that because Ron and I've known
each other forever, so we share the kind of jokes
with each other.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Well I'm not joking. I mean I am joking a
face for radio. That's what I always say about myself.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
But I've started that whole but they saw me. They said, man,
that guy's got a face for radio. But anyway, talking
about tree So if you've got a question about any
of your tree anything that may concern you, give us
a call and Ron I'll be more happy to help
you out. And of course you've got a great website
at arbordoctor dot com. I think the big thing we're
talking about, and we're gonna take a break, I want
to come back back talking about what I've been seeing
(39:36):
lately that you've been pushing big time and we've been
trying to preach and harbor and that's about planning things
too deep. But I want to follow up on what
you were saying earlier about tree preservation. And I know
you really as i've known you through all these years,
and what you progress and become more knowledgeable and all
the things that you do. One of the things that
you've really become focused on is tree preservation. It seems
(39:59):
to be anyway, that's like a big thing. And I
at first I was kind of like, yeah, okay, but
you know, you start to understand why and how important
it is to preserve these bigger trees. It's too easy
for somebody to move in and have these trees that
may be in the way or drop some leaves or
have no issue, to just have them cut down, and
they don't think about the long term the effects that
(40:20):
that has by removing that or if it starts to
have a little decline like you said, that could be treatable,
could be curable, could be taken care of, they just
decide to get it taken out. And how important it
is to try to preserve these larger, older trees, to
keep them around until these younger trees come up and
start to fill in the air, you know, to take
(40:41):
over for them. And trees don't last forever, obviously, but
whatever we can do to keep them going is so important.
And that's what you seem to be focusing on. I mean,
you do everything, but more and more all the time.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean it's not just that I'm
a tree hugger and I want trees around.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
There is sign camped out in a tree to keep
them cut it done.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
In the tree, now, okay, But there is science, a
peer reviewed research that shows that human health, both physical
health and mental health is improved by having trees, nature
greenery around. I mean, you know, less and less in
(41:28):
a way of heart attacks and quicker recovery from heart problems,
from stroke, better mental health, just all sorts of benefits.
Even in neighborhoods that have trees and greenery lower crime rates.
And there's some psychological sociological reasons that go with that too,
(41:52):
to the extent that a hospital on the west side
of Cincinnati, Mercy West Hospital, designed their entire hospital so
that there are views out into nature from every patient
room and they have the second largest green roof in
the state of Ohio at that hospital, so that patients
are exposed to nature, because the designers of that hospital
(42:14):
knew that that is beneficial to us, to our health. So,
you know, getting rid of large trees just because we
don't like a few leaves or you know, we're scared
of the tree, has a lot of ramifications to our lives.
Tangible ramifications. It's not it's not just that you know,
(42:35):
I love trees or I don't love trees. It's that
it really does positively impact your quality of life to
have those trees around, and the quality of life of
your community to have those trees around. So, you know,
just a wide range of foundational reasons for that. And
(42:57):
you know, we talked before about people being scared of trees.
You know, people have all sorts of reasons for not
liking trees, including you know, leaves. We'll just mulch the
leaves up. You don't have to spend the whole fall
raking leaves.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
So I mean, there are easy ways to get rid
of it, especially if they live next door to you. Yeah,
because you'll come and collect them up. Ron Roethins is
with us this morning taking your calls about trees. Were
also taking your calls about any kind of yardening. Ron
knows about landscaping that as well as myself. So if
you've got other questions, great, but otherwise take advantage of
having him in the studios here this morning, and we'll
talk more about trees after the break. Don't forget our website.
(43:34):
It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In the
Garden with Ron Wilson, what's going on? What's going on
with that? Are you not there this morning to do
take care of that? I'm not, No, you're not. But
anyway check it out and again will take a break
to come back taking your calls at eight hundred eight
two three, eight two five five Here in the Garden
with Ron Wilson. How is your garden growing?
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three
talk you're listening to. In the Garden with Ron Wilson,
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about yardening.
It is hot, hot hot. Speaking of hot, hot hot,
let's kick it off with the cup of Joe, mister
Joe Struck, our executive producer. Let's take a look at
what's going on his hot landscape, his backyard, front yards,
hide yards, wherever you wanted to go, Okay, where it's
(00:56):
up to you, of course, our website at Ron Wilson
online dot com Facebook page. In the garden with Ron Wilson.
Good morning, sir. Yes says it is hot, very very yes,
yes it is. It is dang hot. It is dang hot,
and it's July. It is July, so it's supposed to
be hot. So good pool weather, believe it or not. Oh,
(01:21):
here we go. I have been at the pool twice
this week, our community pool. What ye twice with missus Wilson. Wow,
walked down to the pool and took a little dip. Okay,
So what kind of suit does Ron Wilson have? Does
he have auspos all the way normal one or one
(01:41):
of those old timy ones where it's like overalls. Yeah,
that's that's me. I need s spinners to keep him
from falling off of me. What's good? Good? And glad
you got out? Yeah, got to my pool. I haven't
been in the pool in a long time. So she
commenced me to go up and take a dip. So
we did a couple of times. Did you canon ball? Uh?
(02:01):
You know as funny as I did? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Did?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
She got in there a little There wasntybody to pool there,
and then she got in a little raft and she
was floating out there and I cannonball just all of
a sudden, made a little cannonball and done that a
long time. Nice, that's fine. And it hurt me for
a week. I'm sure it's like, oh I forgot how
much that hurts. Well, you're not and you're not young anymore.
I can't do that. No, you gotta be careful a
little bit more about stuff like But I I enjoyed it.
(02:27):
I'm a whimp. I've gotten as worse as time has
gone along of getting in the water. It was cold.
When it's cold, well, you know, you get into water,
it's a definite difference, and you know it takes whats
your stomach and all you're like, oh, go get one
of those deals you got that minute before you get
and I saw it, like you know, and I'm become
(02:47):
really bad about this, like I just come on, just
just jump in, come on, just do it. I stand
there for ten minutes and then finally take the dive. Finally,
you just do a cannonball. If I just do the cannonball.
That's why I find said, just do the canniball, just
get in and go. So I did do one of them.
Did you do a jack knife too, No, just a cannibal.
It's not deep enough to dive into. So I'm glad
(03:10):
it was that fun I finally, So it's a but
you almost funny, is I was? I haven't been. If
I if I fell out of a boat in a
lake today, I would drown. Really yeah, I mean I could,
I could swim. Or if you were taking pictures of
the new Cleveland browns helmet, would you drown? I would drown.
I just can't. I don't have the endurance. I mean,
(03:31):
I'm overweight. I just there's no eyes. Just said swimming
in that pool. I said, if I fell out of
a boat in the lake, I would not make it
to the shore. Well, just just so you feel better,
sad thing, and talking about that too was the what's
his face? And the cosmy kids? Oh yeah, oh my gosh,
that's horrible. He got caught in an undertoe. I got
Carly and Meghan reminded me. We got caught one time out
(03:53):
of the outer Banks in that and I could not
get them back. We couldn't get back onto the beach,
and it just kept taking us down and taking us down,
and I really did think we were going to make
it out of there, and finally broke through. It got
them both pushed up where they could get out, got
myself out, so and that was not even close to
what he was dealing with. I'm I'm gonna just stick
(04:14):
to going swimming in a pool and just forget about
the whole ocean thing. We can enjoy the ocean and
just don't go in. Yeah, I mean he could set out, hey, sorry,
stuff touches me and the ocean, get a beach chair, yeah,
and enjoy the wind coming off the ocean. And I
guess that was a dangerous beach that he was on too.
There lots of warnings about that, but it's not gonna
(04:35):
happen to me. Unfortunately, it did that's very sad. So yeah,
that really was said. And I'm sure you also said
with mister Osborne. Oh of course, I really you know
what I'm mister Hogan. You know what, both of those guys,
I really felt part of my childhood. Yeah, I really
felt kind of bad about I mean, you know, celebrities pass, Yeah,
(04:56):
but I really did. I mean I really liked Ozzie.
I really liked Black Sabbath when I was a kid.
I mean, think about when I was a teenager, Black
sab Ajer. You probably listened to him in your car now,
So that's what I'm saying. And they still listened to
Black Sabbath today. And of course Hulk, I mean he
changed changed the world and wrestling. Oh yeah, yeah, it's he.
It was, it was you know the reason why it's
(05:18):
worldwide now is because of him. There's no doubt he
made it what it is. Yeah, even the other wrestlers
admitted to that. I mean, like, you know, we wouldn't
be where we are if it wasn't for Hultkvian. Yeah,
that's a fact. That's fact. So I guess he'd of course,
he'd put doing a lot of steroids and that takes
a toll on you after a while. Oh and you
had a lot of back isshoes. He said he had
(05:38):
twenty seven surgeries in five year period. Yeah, at an
interview about six months ago, and mostly on his back. Yeah,
and they had the few apparently the last one he had,
they fused some vertebrae together and he had complications after that.
And now he's now he's uh wrestling in the sky
(06:01):
with Roddy Piper and Andrea the Giant. Roddy were out
and let's Savage and the Junkyard Dog of course Dick
the Bruiser. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's it's sad, but yeah,
and I mean it's very sobering because it's part of
your childhood. It's just like oh yeah, because usually when
(06:22):
I mean, you know, when when that was little, you know,
when celebrities died, they were like they weren't really my
celebrities or my parents celebrities. Now they're my celebrities. I'm like, wait,
wait a minute, Yeah, you guys are supposed to die. Yeah,
you know what idols you looked up to some of them,
So yeah, absolutely, But the thing with Jamal was that
(06:43):
was that was that's tragedy. That was just awful. Man,
sad news. Yeah, I hate to see that. So who
had a guess do you have the day? Yes? Today, Yes,
it's going to be a very unusual show today. You
want to know why? Why is it going to be unusual?
So breders? Do you need? That's like twelve of them
diesel beats? What are reminder somebody's hungry? Goodness? Think back
(07:09):
before we COVID, we used to have people in the
studios in studio in studio right what Yeah, well, guess
what on your way out this morning, when you're going
down the elevator, I need you to let Ron rothis in. Okay,
remember you used to do that. Yeah, he's coming in.
He's in the house. But he's also bringing his two kids.
(07:31):
Oh cool. They wanted to see how a radio show works.
Part of their Girl Scout Boy Scout projects. So they're
gonna be there watching their broadcasting. Their father Yeah, do
his thing on the radios. Cool. Yeah, So we'll have
them coming in the next coming in, So make sure
you don't forget to let it out. I'll leave the
door open to bring him up the other way. Prop
(07:51):
it up, prop it up in with a box and
somebody said, you know, we had all the cicadas, but
nothing was mentioned about the mole increase the populations. It
was all increase that goes along with it. You know,
people don't complain about moles like they used to. But
if you noticed, about six weeks ago there were moles
trapping signs everywhere or sooner than that, before the the
(08:13):
cicadas came out. But anyway, I said, you're right. So
guess who I got a hold of the man, Tom Schmidt,
the moll man. He said he is experienced, he has experienced. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. He has experienced three of those
seventeen year cicada outbreaks. Wow, show you that he's been
in the business a long time. Yeah, my goodness. So
(08:33):
he's going to talk with us this morning about U
and he did say, yeah, most definitely, the moles go
up up and down with cicadas, going to have them
on and uh, yeah, then we've got Gary Salvan and
Buggy Joe is on vacation today. Yeah, he's a lot
to take vacation. There's only a lot to take vacation.
Or in the winter time, he's in that state up
north that he can't even pronounce Wisconsin. I just said,
(08:58):
I said, you can't say the name when you're on
the radio. But yeah, you're going there on vacation, Wisconsin, Minnesota,
so it is. It is a nice day, okay, the
light touse stuff. But anyway, so they stuck with me
and Ron talking about cool. So there you go. Cool.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The website is Ron Wilson Online dot com, Facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Hopefully people are enjoying
the changes to the uh pictures like this week's kind
of I don't get any kind of well, you know what,
you didn't know I had been to the pool this week?
You only feedback I've gotten this from you. No one,
(09:41):
no one ever says, hey, Joe anymore of but stuff
like that doesn't seem like but anyway, you didn't even
know I had gone to the pool. I didn't. That's
pretty interesting. Yeah, it was just actually have to check
that one out. I just kind of thought because because
it was so hot, you know, may as well have
something that's related to or maybe you're gonna break the
news you a pool in your backyard. No that's not happening, okay,
(10:03):
just making sure so on the website. Yes, there's a
there's a couple of things from the Extension night service
this week. Glow worms for one, Yes, and uh, I
guess the softly Yes, yeah, yeah, I think about soft lies. Yes.
This week's Rita's recipe is definitely down her alley from
(10:24):
her background. Yes, it's pronounce that correctly. I looked at
that to her three times. What the recipe? Fatouche fatouche, Yeah,
fatouche fat tousche. It is a nice little I guess
that's like a salad. I guess the salad with with
flat crumbles in it. Yeah, and that's what the fatouche
(10:47):
comes from or whatever. So yeah. By the way, that
trading food is really yummy. By the way, Missus Wilson
and I traveled and drove out to see mister missus
hiking film. Really yes, how about that? Put shoes on?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
She made me take them off, so as we got there,
we both had to leave our shoes in the car. Really.
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Took her a couple of
butterfly boo pee vines that she makes te's and dies
out of it. We grew special for her. Did you
try some cherry bounce we did not. I saw it,
but we did not try it. It's too early. But
(11:24):
she did mention, she did mention that she needs to
make lemon cellow. You can still sample it. She heard
you talking about can still sample it now. We didn't.
We didn't sot spin little time. I didn't make it
into the bottle and a little access on the side
on the side, but we got to spend a little
of the time with her, took Miley out. Miley got
(11:45):
to see the chickens and stuff like that. So cool. Yeah,
see the garden. Very fun. So I finally finally did
visit the Hiking Fell's house. I never get an invite. Yeah,
planet I invited myself because I had the plans for it.
So there you go. The the plant of the week
is spider spider plants. Why wouldn't the heck would you
pick spider plants. One of the oldest house plants out there.
Everybody's had a spider plant because they're cool. Because of that,
(12:11):
everybody there is so easy to grow. Yeah, very colorful.
You get the little airplanes, little spiders that hang off
the side. But what a lot of folks don't realize
is that's a great container plant for your annual planters
during the summer. You can even use it in the
ground as a border if you're just looking for an
annual border plant. And the smaller spider plants they make
it looks like a riope. It's a tropical obviously, so
(12:33):
it's not gonna overwinter. But they're great in containers, filler
plants for containers, they're great in the ground, great in
hanging baskets. Way are used and other things besides a houseplant.
And it's also always in the top ten list of
best air purifiers when it comes to houseplants indoor plants
as well. So it's been around a long time, but
it can be used in many other cases situations besides
(12:57):
in the house. Very cool, there you go. Awesome, Well,
tough for me to head on out and get my
twelve burritos. He might get some ash browns to somebody's hungry.
We a diet coke something. By the way, I got
a picture from the doctor after they left Mexico. Yeah,
he was at a NASCAR event. What telling you, man?
(13:22):
What is the deal there? Doctor? Laura's paying nights there?
If they're hiring I don't know. Goodness, Yeah, there's a
picture of him and first turn it NASCAR. Last Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, good for him, he's enjoyed. We're just so jealousy
enjoyed having enjoy it now because once you get married,
all that stuff goes away. I did not say that
you did. But it's true, isn't it. A you sidate
I did not. It's true. Though I did not, you
would admit that it was true. It's true. You're shaking
(13:56):
your head. Yes, I am not shaking my head. Yes,
you're sick in your head. Yes, as you were saying,
my head is going like this.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
No go.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
If I had a camera in the studio, it's my
word against yours. Oh, I don't forget to let the
out the arbor. Doc. You get a box in front
of the front door. All right, don't scare the kids.
I won't all I appreciate it. Joe Shuck, our executive producer.
If you like, we see on our website Ron Wilson
online dot com Facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson, which,
(14:24):
by the way, it means if Ron's here, he's not
going to be on the chat room to the face.
Won't be unless he's gonna do it on his phone.
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Speaker 1 (18:17):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardny gonna be an unusual
show because after the bottom of the hour, Ron rothis
is gonna join us the tree at Arbor Doc. We're
gonna talk about trees, obviously, and if you've got questions
about trees, this is gonna be your opportunity to talk
with Ron A lot of times we have them on
the show and you know we uh we just it's
(18:37):
one on one with Ron and myself and uh don't
get to talk with Ron specifically. Well guess what we're
gonna Well, we haven't. I'll take you this. We haven't
had somebody in our studios, uh since COVID. So he's
our first return. Well that's what I mean. But guess
Joe and Joe. But guess wise, we have not and
we have new studios and it's a different way to
(18:58):
get up here in all nine hearts, so's he would
be our first guest in and studio since COVID, So
it'll be a lot of fun. Ron's, of course, as
you all well know, knows the weather like the back
of his hand, and he knows trees even better, and
we'll hit him with all of those, so taking it,
he's more accurate than some of the weather people we
have on TV. I compared him to Pat Berry. Yes,
(19:21):
I think Pat Barry, being a not non meteorologist, still
was one of the best weather forecasters because and he
was funny. Sorry, he would just kind of do what
Ron's doing, and you know, look at what's going on
into make an evaluation. And I always thought he was
more accurate than anybody else. But we all know how
accurate Ron rothis is. So we're going to talk with him.
As a matter of fact, he's also gonna have two
(19:43):
of his kids in here today with us. We'll see
what they're like. If they're crazy like he is, or
they just chilled out taking it easy, you know, etcetera, etcetera.
So we'll see Jason and Allison. I believe Addie, I'm sorry,
I remember the A. We'll be in here also, so
we'll see if they take after run or or what
it may be. Or maybe they'll come in here and
start talking about weather and trees. Who knows. But anyway,
(20:05):
one to four warn you because after the break we
will get into the discussion with Ron. We're gonna talk
about trees, We're gonna talk about whether we're gonna talk
about bugs, and as I mentioned, Buggy Joe Boggs on
vacation this week, So that last segment is gonna be
uh tree, Ron and the other Ron talking about all
kinds of things there in place of Buggy Joe Boggs.
(20:25):
But we're taking your calls. Eight hundred eight two three
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Speaker 1 (22:57):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that told number eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five talking about yardig don't forget our website, Ron
Wilson online dot com and uh, the plan of the week.
You know, I was talking to Joe about that with
the spider plants. I'm telling you, that's a plant that
flies under the radar. You can use that thing for
so many different ways, indoors and outdoors. They're tough, they're durable,
(23:21):
full sun shade, and you can propagate your own makes
it really easy. And you got lots of fillers with
the spider plants. But again, check it out Ron Wilson
online dot com. Now, as I promised, and I'm not
going to give him the big introduction like we normally do,
nor are we going to have the yet. I don't know,
maybe we will. The crowd cheering in the background, who knows.
But it's time for weather. It's the weather and in
(23:44):
the trees, and this time it's a little different because
he's in the studio and he's gonna hang around for
a while. Uh you know who I'm talking about. He's
our registered consulting arbist, amateur mediorologists, I say, board certified
master arbist. It goes on and on and on his
website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, mister.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Ron Roethus, good morning, how are you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm good. You missed the cheers in the background. I
do Sorry, computer just locked up.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
You would think, with this large crowd in the studio,
what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Oh, you meant their compute. You meant the computer for
their microphone. Yes, yeah, I got it. Now I understand.
Now I got to fix Yeah, there we go. Rons,
there it is. Now you gotta feel better, better late
than ever, better late than that weather mic was obsout,
you know. So now they get to see what you
actually look like. I do reboot their microphone, you know, yeah,
(24:38):
I get it totally.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I have a face for radio.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So you know I didn't say anything. I said, I
said nothing. So are you staying busy this summer?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's the understatement of the century. Trying to keep my
head above water with all the just various all the
water with all the water in some areas. But just
we are busy as can be, as busy as we've
ever been this summer.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Why is that not just because it's the arbor doctor.
I mean, honestly, why are there more things going on
with trees this summer than in the past. Are more
people involved with taking care of the trees more than
they were in the past. What are you seeing?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I don't know that I can put my finger on it.
I do think that part of it with me is
just that I've been in business for twenty one years
and so you get a lot of referral sure that
way and things like that, and that's a big part
of it for me. But there are a lot of
trees having problems, I mean, and it's it varies. I mean, like,
(25:42):
for example, the other day, I looked at three very
old oak trees which the person was concerned about and
ended up being that they legitimately should have been because
there were some very serious fungal infections in the base
of one of the trees in particular, But all three
of them had a very serious fungal infection at the
(26:04):
base of the trees, and they were fungi that wrought
out the root system and the base of the tree significantly.
And I you know, my specialty is tree preservation, but
I had to, you know, give them bad news that
those trees probably need to come down. There really wasn't
too much that could be done. The one fungus, brittle
(26:28):
cinder fungus kind of flies under the radar for a
lot of arborous but it is a fungus that can
decrease the wood strength at the base of the tree
by seventy to ninety percent and cause the tree to
just basically snap off and fall over. So when you
find that one in combination with oak bracket fungus, which
(26:48):
basically rots the roots out from the bottom up, it's
not good. And this was an eighty foot tall tree
that was already leaning. It was over the street and
over the wires, leaning because of the over time, just
the roots over time. Yeah, it wasn't a grouping, so
I mean, it wasn't it wasn't progressively leaning from the
(27:09):
standpoint that it was ready to you know, progressively follow over.
But you know, the weight of the tree was all
offset toward one side, toward the street, and it had
fungi at the base, which we're rotting out the root
system and rotting out the base of the tree. And
I you know, when I say that, I don't want
(27:30):
to scare people, you know, I mean these were trees
that legitimately should have scared people. But it is a
message I think to people that when you have larger trees,
they can have issues that need that need attention. Occasionally
they need to come down. But you know, what I
(27:52):
find is that fear. A lot of people make decisions
about trees based on fear, fear of the unknown, and
if you actually understand what's going on with the tree,
you know, in this case, it was kind of a
worst case scenario for this oak tree, But many other
times things are going on with the tree where yeah,
(28:14):
there's some branches that could fall out of it, they
can be pruned. Yes, the tree has a large canopy
that maybe is catching enough wind that could cause branch breakage.
But some selective branch reduction can be done to reduce
the amount of windload on a tree. I mean, things
could be done to mitigate that risk down to a
(28:36):
lower risk. And so rather than being scared of the
unknown and just cutting a tree down that has incredible
ecological value and sociological value. You know, having it looked
at by a consulting arborus, by a certified arborist who
knows what they're looking at, who who is experienced in
(28:58):
tree preservation, can really give you a peace of mind,
can make the whole situation safer if it needs to be,
if that, if any type of risk needs to be mitigated,
and can allow that asset to really stay there for
a long period of time, because it could. You cut
(29:19):
a big tree down. I've seen calculations that it can
take two hundred and fifty saplings to equal the environmental
benefits of one lost from the one tree you have
more mature tree. And that's if the two hundred and
fifty saplings all survive.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Which often they don't. Almost never happens. Yeah, so let
me let me ask you this. So you saw that
you were there, you saw that it had that the
problem with the disease, you know, it's the king. Can
you actually look at that and somewhat determine how long
I mean, did is that something that you needed to
(29:56):
take out right away? Was it still strong enough? The
tree still looked healthy enough that it could last for
another two or three years? I mean when you look
at something like that, do you try to say, I
think we can pull another two or three four years
out of this before it starts to we need to
get rid of it? Or is that how do you
make that call?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Well, part of that is knowing what the what the
pathogen is, what the fungal organism is, right, because it's
just like with cancers and people some you know, I've
had some skin cancers that are kind of minor and
the dermatologists that said, yeah, we have to take care
of them. But if you don't, you'll be fine for years,
you know, just slowly get worse. You know, melanoma comes
(30:38):
along and it's an emergency. You know, it's kind of
same thing with this. So yes, very often we have
fungal pathogens and trees. You almost never have an older
tree that doesn't have some degree of decay in the trunk.
And trees like that can be preserved, I mean, they
(30:59):
can be worked with and we try to make determinations
as to how extensive the decay is and things like that.
But knowing what the pathogen is and what the mode
of action is really helps us out. You know, the
brittle cindric fungus doctor Christopher Lully, who's a national expert
in wood decay fungi lists that is the number one
(31:23):
fungal organism that arborists should be familiar with because its
mode of action is really, really bad. So when you
find that in a tree, there's one or two trees
that I'm working with that that have it that I'm
very cautious with them.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But we're.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
We're fairly confident that those trees, you know, the infection
hasn't spread very far. But when I find bertle cinder fungus,
it's a major red flag. And more often than not,
i'd say those trees can't be preserved.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
And if you're finding those oak and we got to
take a break here, you find those with oak trees
you're talking about, you find it more with the red
or the red oak.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
It's actually the most common in maples and beech trees.
But I don't know that I've found it in a
in a white oak that this was a pinoak that
we found it in the other day.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, because I remember one time you and I both
saw the same I'm pretty sure it was a red
oak that had just high winds and it just snapped
right at the ground and you could see that it
had been decaying. I mean there was it just separated,
It just fell over. I mean this thing was three
feet in diameter.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And that's not unfortunately, that's not uncommon with some of
the red oaks. And but again, people, aren't you unnecessarily scared.
A lot of that is a situation that can be
identified and determinations could be made by an expert who
really knows what they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
And again that's where we always come back to having
somebody come out and take a look at your trees
on a regular basis, just like you go to the
doctor on a regular basis. That's the arbor doctor to
come out and take a look at him. So you
can watch for things like that and do whatever is
necessary because preservation of the tree will take a break.
Come back, talk about why that's so important, because you know,
(33:17):
one of the things you brought up was if we
do have to finally cut that big tree down, it
takes two hundred and fifty other trees to try to
compensate for what we lost. And if we could have
saved that one big tree, how important that is, including
planting the other two hundred and fifty trees that are
out there talking with Ron Roethlis, he's the arbor doctor.
Before we take a break, let's go to day and
talk to our good buddy Dick from Dayton. Come oning.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Good morning, Good morning to your guests. Great chair, Ron
and Ron and Danny run.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
And run and Dan. Yeah, so how you doing?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah? Did you tell him I used to work at Loaves.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
As a matter of fact, he knows. He listens to
our show all the time. And he said, of course
I know who Dick is from Dayton, and he's and
that came up. He used to work at lows, used
to load a lot of marble chips and top soil
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Dick is famous. We all know Dick.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
See that. There you go.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, I'll tell you Ron, it's just funny. My family
was all gardening, my uncle Carlo and my cousin Carla
k and my mom and dad did a lot. But
you know, you're from northern Ohio and she had a
big garden there and she used to bring zucchini. My
uncle's did, and my cousin was around here. He came
(34:37):
down to see me and was real nice. We went
out and saw my friend and everything. We ate a
Bob Evans. But as you know, Ron, I'm a musician
and I get to Cincinnati, Dave takes me down and
it's just it's just nice to know you people there
and the station I Heeart Radio is beautiful down there.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I love you, Hey, Dick. My father was a professional
jazz musician. He played drums.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh did he yety?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Now what kind of band?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Uh? He liked jazz, big band jazz, bebop jazz, That's
what he was really into. But he played his entire life.
He passed away a few years ago, but I mean
he played from the time he was in high school.
He played in bands around town. I think he was
playing over the Beverly Hill Supper Club the week before
it burned down.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Was it sort of Dixie Land? That's the kind of
music we played in Kettering. Banjo was all on the
Ohio River. And it's funny, Ron, it was on my
little board out here. I was in that banjo group
for forty one years and everybody broke up, and now
I'm playing just around, you know, retired, and.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
There's nothing wrong with that. Keep your neighbors, you know,
keep your neighbors happy. Play that music for them. They're
gonna appreciate that. And don't forget. Get with somebody to
find out if you can assist teaching like middle school
ukuleley lessons, so you can get involved with that and
share your let you know what you know with a
(36:12):
lot of students out there and encourage more to play
the ukuleley. We gotta go.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Dick.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Always a pleasure talking a good day, all right, you
two Dick from Dick from Dayton. There you go, quick break.
We come back talking with Ron Rothis he's the arbor Doc.
His website arbor doctor dot com. Got a tree question,
Ron's here for you eight hundred eight two three eight
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Speaker 1 (38:37):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. We're taking your calls about anything yardening.
But we do happen to have Ron Roethlis in the
studios with us today in house. First time since COVID
started that we've had an in house guest. We've been
doing all over the phone or yeah, the computer or whatever.
(39:00):
So it's good to see his ugly face in here.
And and I say that because Ron and I've known
each other forever, so we share the kind of jokes
with each other.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Well I'm not joking. I mean I am joking a
face for radio. That's what I always say about myself.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
But I've started that whole but they saw me. They said, man,
that guy's got a face for radio. But anyway, talking
about tree So if you've got a question about any
of your tree anything that may concern you, give us
a call and Ron I'll be more happy to help
you out. And of course you've got a great website
at arbordoctor dot com. I think the big thing we're
talking about, and we're gonna take a break, I want
to come back back talking about what I've been seeing
(39:36):
lately that you've been pushing big time and we've been
trying to preach and harbor and that's about planning things
too deep. But I want to follow up on what
you were saying earlier about tree preservation. And I know
you really as i've known you through all these years,
and what you progress and become more knowledgeable and all
the things that you do. One of the things that
you've really become focused on is tree preservation. It seems
(39:59):
to be anyway, that's like a big thing. And I
at first I was kind of like, yeah, okay, but
you know, you start to understand why and how important
it is to preserve these bigger trees. It's too easy
for somebody to move in and have these trees that
may be in the way or drop some leaves or
have no issue, to just have them cut down, and
they don't think about the long term the effects that
(40:20):
that has by removing that or if it starts to
have a little decline like you said, that could be treatable,
could be curable, could be taken care of, they just
decide to get it taken out. And how important it
is to try to preserve these larger, older trees, to
keep them around until these younger trees come up and
start to fill in the air, you know, to take
(40:41):
over for them. And trees don't last forever, obviously, but
whatever we can do to keep them going is so important.
And that's what you seem to be focusing on. I mean,
you do everything, but more and more all the time.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean it's not just that I'm
a tree hugger and I want trees around.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
There is sign camped out in a tree to keep
them cut it done.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
In the tree, now, okay, But there is science, a
peer reviewed research that shows that human health, both physical
health and mental health is improved by having trees, nature
greenery around. I mean, you know, less and less in
(41:28):
a way of heart attacks and quicker recovery from heart problems,
from stroke, better mental health, just all sorts of benefits.
Even in neighborhoods that have trees and greenery lower crime rates.
And there's some psychological sociological reasons that go with that too,
(41:52):
to the extent that a hospital on the west side
of Cincinnati, Mercy West Hospital, designed their entire hospital so
that there are views out into nature from every patient
room and they have the second largest green roof in
the state of Ohio at that hospital, so that patients
are exposed to nature, because the designers of that hospital
(42:14):
knew that that is beneficial to us, to our health. So,
you know, getting rid of large trees just because we
don't like a few leaves or you know, we're scared
of the tree, has a lot of ramifications to our lives.
Tangible ramifications. It's not it's not just that you know,
(42:35):
I love trees or I don't love trees. It's that
it really does positively impact your quality of life to
have those trees around, and the quality of life of
your community to have those trees around. So, you know,
just a wide range of foundational reasons for that. And
(42:57):
you know, we talked before about people being scared of trees.
You know, people have all sorts of reasons for not
liking trees, including you know, leaves. We'll just mulch the
leaves up. You don't have to spend the whole fall
raking leaves.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
So I mean, there are easy ways to get rid
of it, especially if they live next door to you. Yeah,
because you'll come and collect them up. Ron Roethins is
with us this morning taking your calls about trees. Were
also taking your calls about any kind of yardening. Ron
knows about landscaping that as well as myself. So if
you've got other questions, great, but otherwise take advantage of
having him in the studios here this morning, and we'll
talk more about trees after the break. Don't forget our website.
(43:34):
It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In the
Garden with Ron Wilson, what's going on? What's going on
with that? Are you not there this morning to do
take care of that? I'm not, No, you're not. But
anyway check it out and again will take a break
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two three, eight two five five Here in the Garden
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