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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three, eight
two five five. Good morning. I am run Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding, as you well know.
The way we're set up here with Danny and I
look at each other on the TV on the monitors,
I say, TV screen in my old hat or what
when we get to see each other because he's in
a room on the other side of the hallway and
I'm in the studios over here. So we kind of
(00:55):
waved each other all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But Dan down the hallway, maybe to your left.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Down the hallway, to the right, right, you know whatever.
But Dan likes to keep things upbeat in his studios
over there. I went in and he had a huge
picture of the outer banks with everybody out with the
tents up this morning, getting ready to get into the water.
Enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I did, and then I replace it by twilight Zone.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And then he said, I'm done with that. I'm going
to the Twilight Zone. Yes, So now he's watching the
Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I have a split screen of you and the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Great, where's Gary?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Not doubting yet?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh okay, got it? Anyway, Talking about yardening at eight
hundred and eight two three a two five five website.
Ron Wilson online dot com. Planning of the week is
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Speaker 4 (01:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's called fatoush fatush and that she has has several
recipes for it. This is kind of an updated one,
so you'll enjoy that as well. Oaks Sawflug Oak slug,
sawfly uh and glowworms. There are two big go post
for this week, so be sure and check those out
as well. Across the table from me here in the studios,
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our first in house guest since COVID things changed, the
new studios back then, the way things were set up
just never brought anybody back into the studios to be
our guests on Saturdays. But he is our first and
we are honored to have him with us this morning,
co hosting kind of Ron Roth to see arbor doc
and his website arbordoctor dot com. And he brought a
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couple little kids running around here. Yeah. Then they're totally
not interested in the show whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, they they have other interests in life.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You mean, old man making them get up at five
thirty in the morning to come down here.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
They were up at I think four thirty this morning.
That's even worse earlier than I thought I was gonna
have to get them up. They got themselves up. It's like, well,
if you want to be up at this hour, slept
another half hour.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But Uncle ron had snacks at drinks. Form got a
place over here. They can lay on the couch and
hang out so.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Which they're much more interested in. Then I took care
of him. There you got, well, you're good, I got
him covered. Yard boy comes through again or.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
They call me Uncle Ronathy one there goes. That's sorry.
By the way, I want to thank Tim m dwyer again,
he had said about the reminding me again about getting
the Moullman on some time, talk about the cicadas and
the moles and all. And if you remember Tim dwyer
has been on our show before. He's the pickle guy
and he does a great job pickling all kinds of
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stuff and sells it locally. And you can see him
at his website or a Facebook page is Pickled to
Paradise if you want to check him out. So thank
you Tim for bringing that up. Talk with Ron rothis
we're talking trees mostly to day, but we're here to
answer your questions as well. Buggy Joe Boggs is on vacation,
so we're gonna carry this. We got Gary Salvyn coming
up after the break, but then we're going to carry
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this right up to the top of the hour. So
taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five about trees or yardening in general. A
lot of things going on out there for you as well.
And Ron, it's carrying on with the tree conversation, and
we were talking about the moles and the increase in
populations with the cicadas, and many of the areas locally
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here southwest Ohio hit pretty hard with this last brood
in some areas in lightening. But I was telling you
that I had been looking at some trees and there's
some smaller trees Japanese tree, lilac, some smaller maples that
not only did they have the flagging on the ends,
but that cicada damage went all the way down to
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the trunk on those branches. That's kind of a time
we'll tell on those, right, I mean, you know, a
lot of times you see that flagging on the ends,
it breaks off. Done deal. But this is where this
thing got These branches have gotten hit right to the
base of the tree, I mean right where they come
out of the trunk.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yeah, and at some point you're gonna have to and
I would, I guess, tend to wait and kind of
see what. Yeah, but there have been trees over the
years where I've done just a major pruning on the trees,
I mean almost removing, you know, most of the branching
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because they were so riddled. Specifically years ago on a
black gum tree that I had in my yard and
it really just popped back, I mean really vigorously. The
thing you have to watch if you're going to do
something like that is if it does grow back vigorously
and it has a lot of you know, sprouting and things,
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you're probably going to have to go in there and
do a little bit of structural pruning to make sure
that the chaos which ensues from all that puning actually
ends up structurally being something that the tree can can
live with over the course of its life.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Multiple branches coming out from where you cut off.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
The exactly exactly so you know, and you want to
do that anyway with a new tree, even you know,
when you don't have cicada damage, just to make sure
that you know. Structural pruning of young trees sometimes we
call it young tree training. It's kind of like having children.
You know, you have children and you don't just let
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them make it up and never correct them or discipline them.
You have to kind of steer them in the right
direction and things like that. And trees are the same way.
Very often they'll have a double leader, they'll have very
very narrow branching angles and things, and you have to
make those corrections when they're well. You should make those
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corrections when they're young, because if you let the tree
get really big has a double leader they're both six
inches in diameter, then you can't very well go in
and you know, cut one of them off. You're going
to lose half the canopy. There are ways to manage
that with subordination and one of those co dominants and
things like that, but it's much easier to fix those
things when the tree is little and the diameters or
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very very.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
One of the trees I looked at was a Japanese tree,
like a small one just planted, and like I said,
it was riddled all the way to the trunk where
the branches came out. What was interesting is and of course,
you know, and I think of you sometimes when I
go out to do this, because you become detective. You know,
the first thing you do is look at the overall tree,
and you look at the new growth, You look at
the branches, you look at the hou it's coming out
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of the ground, cet et cetera. There were a ton
of ants crawling all over this tree. And of course
right away I started looking for aphis or anything, and
there's nothing, no scale. But what I was watching was
they were actually going to where many of the slits
were that were made there, and there was enough little
bit of sap coming out of that that they were feeding.
They were feeding right on top of those slits and
feeding on sap from the tree and then going back down.
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You know, they were all over this thing. I mean,
like crazy, and it's amazing how many calls I will get.
You probably do too, where my plants cover with ants.
They're killing my plant. Well it's not the ants. The
ants are an indicator, but you know, but they were
actually feeding on on the slits where that cicada damage was.
But bottom line was, as I look to see what
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was going on with this particular tree had been just
planted within the ear. It's the same ol, same mole
that we're seeing just all the time. And you and
I said, you are during a break trying to think
of all the other reasons why this would happen. But
it's just amazing how many trees I go and look
at that have been planted in the last two or
three or four years that are too deep. And you know,
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we talk about show me the root flare, show me
the flare. Planet at the root flare at the surface
level or higher. And then I go and you look
and it looks like a telephone pole going down into
the ground, which is an indicator right there that something's wrong.
And you start digging down and there is that root
flare four or five six inches below the ground, and
it just doesn't work. And overtime, which you know, it
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takes its toll on those trees, and some trees probably
can tolerate a little bit better than others. But it's
amazing how we're still as much as we've preached. And
it's a volcano malting the same way. You preach and
preach and preach, and you still see it out there.
But you know, you pull six inches of mult away
and then you go down and you know you get
six inches of soil. That tree is never going to
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make it. You're twelve inches below anything. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
One of the things that you know, it's even caught
me by surprise is trees that I've planted personally, where
I go back and it's too deep and it's like,
I know, I didn't plant that too deep. But what
I did, and you kind of learn things over time,
is if you dig the hole deeper than it needs
to be and then you you know, put some backfill
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under it to get the tree at what you think
is the right level, that backfill is going to settle
and that tree is actually going to sink. So you
know the current And I was on the committee with
Ohio I say that developed the tree planting specifications for
Ohio that were just signed off on by Ohio State
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Extension and the Ohio Green Industry Association. But the current
specifications are to dig that hole no deeper than the
root ball needs to be set so that the root
ball is sitting on solid ground to lessen the chance
that it's going to you know, be sinking like that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Right, yep, but it does happen, and I trust me.
He was swallowing hard when he admitted the fact that
some of the trees that he'd actually planted were too deep.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You learn it following a lot, ladies and gentlemen wiping
his brow.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
You learn an awful lot by making the mistakes and
those of us owl and error exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Trowel and air. We got to take a break. But
before we do, very quickly, we're going to go down
to Alabama. And be careful when I say this, mister
roll Tied, because Ron rothis is more of a Buckeye
fan than Buggy Joe Boggs Go Bucks.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I honestly think, Hey, roll Todd, I think Ron actually,
I think he is an Alabama fan because he's logical,
he's reasonable, he gives good advice. Buggy Joe, you never
know what's coming out of his mouth. He's illogical.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
He's a buck Eye fan, So you think so huh.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I'm sorry. Ron is so nice to meet you.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's very nice to hear from you, despite your allegiance
to that team that you like so much. I really
enjoy I enjoy your enthusiasm, Harold. I wish it was
directed toward another team. But we can't have everything, can we.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Well, you know, I actually like Michigan because Buggy Joe
doesn't like him.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do you know where he's vacationing this week?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Alabama?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Up north?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh wow, that's incredible. Hey, real quick, yes, my amarillis bulbs.
When do they need to go back into the garage
to get some blames during the holidays.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Remember, it takes about eight weeks from the time they
start to regrow to flower, six to eight weeks, Okay,
so you count, you know, you count backwards from that
and whenever you you know, store them away, uh and
store them away. You know, you want them stored away
for several weeks and then bring them out. And so
you got twelve weeks invested easily. That's why we say,
(12:14):
you know, into August typically you're putting those things, making
them go dormant, so you've got plenty of time to
get them to do it for the holidays. Good.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well, they they look good. They're good and grain, so
I'm thinking'm gonna get a good, good crop. Listen, I'll
let you guys go and I just wanna say what
twenty twenty seven days, roll tide, roll you, glad to
head you, glad to have you on the time, trink.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I love it, Harold and take you have a good weekend.
Good talking to you. There you go, there you go there,
All right, quick break we come back. We're gonna do
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Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (15:17):
Today, welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
Time for little home improvement from the man, the myth,
the legend. He is the most listened to Homan proma
show hosting the entire solar system. That's right his website,
Garysullivan online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the
only Gary Son.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Well it sounds like a pair of rons today.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's a pair of rons, all right. I got a
pair of rouns, and I'll raise you to Gary and
the Moman in between.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
You're busy man.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And me in here pushing all the right buttons.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Danny's pushing all the right buttons. Thank goodness, and thank
goodness is right. So jumo this.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Week the front yard.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, I didn't mow the back why not?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Okay your neighbors, dope.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
It faces the north. It's growing, but it's not growing
fast enough. So I said, take the week off, Gary.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Got it? Plus you stepped outside it was eighty nine
degrees and oh my gosh, humidity matched the temperature, and
you said party continues. Done it.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
I'm sure you got that deck all sealed up, now,
don't you.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
What? Well?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I figured you'd get on me about mowing, so I
thought I mustle ass.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Nah the deck is it's clean. Yeah, it looks good.
It's clean. Yeah, it ain't sealed.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I showed you the fungus on my smoke bush, which
you never liked. You never liked my smoke bush. I
didn't like where it was. Oh I like it.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I liked it. I like Ronnie like smokes smoke bush.
I do. Yeah in the right spot, right, yeah, see
just right.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Outside the office window. It keeps a little privacy.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I thought the Magnolia had a better look than this.
Took that down anyway.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
I'm sitting there, I'm looking at it's like it's fifteen
percent dead. What's going on out there? I pretty much
figured before I even got there what it was. And
then I saw a bunch of curled up leaves, and
then I started looking at the other leaves, and there's
fungus on.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But you know what, too, I didn't see the dead part.
As far as the branches, they're very susceptible to versilian will,
very versill and that takes pieces out. Little piece here
and a little piece there. May not kill the whole plant,
but you just get pieces of this d keep dying
out and dying out. But it's very suscepibul to that
as well.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Well, maybe I got a little bit of that, but
I'll tell you what it did.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What'd you do before I even power washed it? Well,
but that's a good answer.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
I did go in there and take out some of
the dead branches. There wasn't a lot, but I just
just and it really wasn't unsightly. I just took it out,
and then I saw where there was fungus on. I
don't know, maybe another forty percent of the bush, but
some of the one side was kind of clear, so
I did put some fung just side on there. It
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looks a little better this week.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So I don't know just because you have the Gary
Sullivan touch.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
Well, I don't know about that either, but I just
it it didn't rain as much this week. Maybe that helped.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's you know what. We watched those dark clouds go
over on my cell phone as NonStop says chance it
was still storm to lighting in your lightning in your area,
and we keep looking, but nothing's happening, right the ron
rothis said, he got you got something?
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I got dumped on Tuesday evening. It was kind of
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Speaker 8 (19:55):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I looked at a radar about fifteen minutes later and
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of rained itself out right over me.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
So well, one thing's for sure. When it rains, it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Rains, ain't ain't no doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Not any spitting going on. I mean it's like there
you go, buddy.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All right. So what are you going to talk about
today when it comes to home improved besides air conditioners?
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Did you get your energy bill this month?
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yes, me too, you know wow.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Yeah, there is a change going on. So we're going
to talk a little bit about insulation, ventilation and wrapping
up some projects. Not when it's too hot out, just
general summertime things. But we we got to save some energy,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
There ain't no doubt about it. Save it, save some
money to try to pay for what. Save it up.
Gary Sollivan, Thank you, sir. Get check out his website,
Garysullivan online dot com. Take a quick break coming back
here in the Garden with Rod Wilson Story Garden Growing.
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Speaker 1 (23:07):
Talking yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. I am Ron Wilson. Your personal yard boy,
don't forget our website. Ron Wilson online dot com in
the house this morning, our first in the house guest
on this show since COVID in our new studios. So
welcome Ron Rothis the arbor Duck. His website is arbadock
dot com. To West Virginia we go, Hey Jim, thanks
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for holding on.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Good morning, Good morning. I have a Japanese glace leaf tree.
Started off as the bonds. I had it at for
years and then I thought I'd put it in the
ground to see how tall it would get. It's about
four feet high. And now all of a sudden I
noticed that is this a gray scale all over the branches?
And now half the tree looks like it's dying.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Uh, Ron rothis would like to address this on because
it's something that we are now seeing more and more.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I'm assuming yeah, it's it sounds like a scale insect.
And there is a armored scale called Japanese maple scale,
which has become quite a problem in our area around
the Middle Ohio Valley. So it doesn't want to surprise
me at all if you're seeing it also in West Virginia,
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and it's not real easy to control they kind of
continuously reproduced during the year, so treating it with an
insecticide can kill some of the babies, the baby they're
called crawlers. When they reproduce the baby. Scale insects basically
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walk around and look for a new place to take
up residents and this. Crawlers are vulnerable to various insecticides.
So you can control it like that, but there's only
usually about twenty percent that are actually in that crawler
state at any one time, so you're always going to
be missing some of them, so you have to do
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repeated uh treatments to bring that under control.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
We use a material uh it's a uh neonicotinoid called
dino tafuron. Safari is one of the brand names. And
I don't know ron what the what the garden Center
brand names might be labeled in the garden for home owners.
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I it's not a restricted use pesticide.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So I don't think I don't know if any I
don't know of any of this got that in it check.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, but you know, other other systemic insecticides, even like
bear tree and shrub, which has I think a bit
of clover it in it would work on that. We
use an insect growth regulator, which is kind of like
birth control for scale insects.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Again, I don't know if there's an equivalent product in
garden centers. And then uh, horticultural oils, which you have
to be really careful of the Japanese maples in the summertime,
even in the winter. You have to be a little
bit conservative on how strong a mixture. But that can
that can help with that as well.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So what so, Jim, do you have actual dead branches
in that Japanese maple too? Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yes, so they're defoliated and I noticed when we had
a big rainstorm went yesterday there were a couple of
branches excuse me on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So what would you suggest Ron that he goes through
and clip out all the dead or is this if
it's really covered and you can notice it by visually
seeing it, that's a lot of scale And I don't know,
I can see that, Yeah, And is that something wrong that?
Do you do you bite the bullet and give up
on that tree or do you do what you can
pruning out what you can and then treat it what I've.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
It's one of those it's depends type things. I've had
scale infestations on a hawthorn, for example, in the past,
where I've had just certain branches that are really, really
heavily infested, and I've gone through and pruned out those branches,
because then you're getting you're actually physically removing a large
number of those insects which would otherwise be reproducing and
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spreading through other parts of the plant. So if it's
a situation where you can prune out some of the
worst infested branches and then treat the wet rest, that
would be ideal. It just kind of depends on how
infested the tree is. If the entire tree is, you know,
half dead and the rest of it's invested, you very
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well might be the point of just having to replace
the tree.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Unfortunately, But I understand this is a tough one to
get under control, Jim, And that's that's the point. And
do remember, feel free to take a couple of pictures
of that plant, especially some shots up close of the
bark and email them to me, and you know, I'll
make sure I ford them to run as well, and
we'll give you two of you opinions based on those
pictures of what we would do if that's indeed the case.
(28:04):
Give you some suggestions for.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That, because another thing with Japanese.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia dot com.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Okay, yeah, my neighbors at the same trees, they're smaller
than mine, and they all have this great scale.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I think, well, let's let's take a Let's do this
before you do anything besides trimming out dead branches, which
is fine. Uh, send us the picture, let us get
a little better idea for what's going on. I'll send
them to Ron as well, and then we'll get back
to you and we can walk you back through the
process as far as what he would do as far
as treating. But I know that's a tougher one to
get under control because of the way they reproduce.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Yeah, and then there are other things that can go
on with Japanese maples too that might kind of look
like this same thing. Just a degeneration of the plant
due to repeated you know, late freezes in the spring
and things like that can cause damage to the bark,
especially up.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Toward the branches.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Up toward the top. You can get got lichens sometimes
get it on there. Ligends can get on there. You
can get scorch on the leaves where the leaves are
actually getting gray and brown along the round the tips
when it's hot, especially when you start to get that
degeneration toward the top from past freezes and things. So
there's a lot of things that can cause I guess,
(29:26):
kind of a scally look. But the scale itself, it
almost looks like tiny little dots of spray paint or
something on the on the on the bark.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, send us a picture, we'll take a look at it.
I'll make sure Ron gets them, and we'll make sure
we get right back to you and let you know
what we think we're seeing on it. It can be one
hundred percent with a picture either, but it gives us
a better feel for what you take a look at
before we take a break. Mount Vernon, Ohio, Chuck, good morning,
Good morning.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Hey. I have two hard not trees about twenty five
thirty years old, but I never have any nuts. What's
what can you tell me what to deal is?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
What kind of do you?
Speaker 9 (30:00):
What kind of heart nut?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay? Any any suggestions? Wrong?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Not really, I'm not depends on what type of tree
you have. Some trees do need their diecious need a
male and female, So it kind of depends on what
the tree is and what the what the needs of
the tree is if you have two, if you have
a female tree and you don't have a pollinator nearby,
(30:28):
you're not going to get nut production. Sometimes so well,
I have other nut trees.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Would they cross pollenate with it?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't think so. Again, depending on what it is.
You don't know. You say it's a hard nut tree,
is what you're saying, right, arc harked heart nut got it.
Couldn't understand what it was there? A heart nut tree,
got it. I don't think they cross pollinate. And I'm guessing,
but I don't think they do any guess.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Ron I, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay, I'm pretty sure they don't. But I again, I
don't think they do. But have you seen it flour
in the springtime?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
No? Never?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
How big is it?
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Oh, they're probably forty so be kind.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Of hard to see the flowers too at that at
that height. Yeah, well, you know what. We're both looking
at each other. We're gonna I'll tell you what I'm
gonna do this week. Take a look to make sure
about whether you need a male and female. I'm writing
myself a note uh in the in this hour next week.
We will bring that up and I have a better
answer for you. How's that because we needed one of
(31:36):
us for sure whether that's a male or female.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Okay, well I've got two plants, but they could both
be males.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I guess, yeah, they can are both female and not
have that male polleny. So yeah, yeah, right, okay, but
we'll find out for you.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Okay, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
All right, Chuck, good talking to you. Quick break, we
come back. We'll finish up talking with Ron Roth. It's
the arbor doc here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (34:09):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson, talking
yard and he talking trees, talking weather with Ron Rothis
he is the Arbor Doc. Of course he's a regular
on our show and he is in studio today, our
first guest since the COVID and it's good to have
him in here and see his ugly I mean, is
a great face and a smiling face and all. Did
you notice last week we're on our plant Pick of
(34:30):
the week was a combination of you and Buggy Joe.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I did and I was going to comment that my
cup plants and my compass plants I have both in
my yard are blooming like crazy right now.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And it's the cup plant's pretty. And I had to
explain it to my wife. She's like, what is Why
is he called a cupplant? So I had to give
her the thing with the water and the cup and
all that stuff. Then she wanted to why it was
a compass plant. We drove by the Procter and Gamble
research facility out there on Lisa Montgomery and that's all
compass plants big time. So I was explaining to her
about that being Joe's favorite, and I talked about yours.
(35:04):
So anyway, but pretty neat plants.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
You know two related plants that I really love too
that I also have in my yard or prairie doc
which has huge leaves. It's almost like a hosta, except
it's a native plant and it doesn't it isn't deer candy.
And the other one is rosenweed, which isn't the most
(35:27):
attractive name in the world, but it's a beautiful plant.
They're all sylphiums and they're all beautiful and they would
all make barb Bletcher really happy because the bees.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Love them, the queen bee. And by the way, speaking
of that honey, now's the time to get your fresh
honey from your beekeepers. They've collected all the spring in
the early summer honey. And it looks like so far,
at least from one of the reports I'm getting from
our beekeeper here working on our nursery and of course
in Columbus, that the honey production has been pretty good
so far this year. So that's a plus. And of
(35:57):
course you want to support local beekeepers. Keep planting for
the bees and all the pollinators, but support those local
beekeepers as well. Get out and purchase your honey now.
It's uh. They've got it out there, jarred up and
ready to go for you, and it's good for you.
So I make sure you continue to support those local beekeepers.
Got Ron rothis in the house with us this morning
(36:17):
talking about trees. Great information we've been sharing with you,
and of course you can learn a lot more on
his website at Ron Harbordoctor dot com. What is a
Milwaukee mini forest that is? Never mind, I didn't think
you know what it was that I know what it is.
I know you I was. That's one of those things
I had to look up. You talk about how we
(36:39):
sire down and we hear something and the folks here
at the taking root. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're gonna be
starting to putting those in, which I thought was pretty
interesting and never I had never heard of that before.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
So it's kind of a jump starting a little miniature
natural area or natural forest area that's it's supposed to
be reasonably self sustaining.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Great, that was pretty cool. Yeah, the interesting concept. We'll
talk more about that as we go along. But I
just saw that yesterday and like I said, I had
to look it up because I wasn't sure. So anyway,
during the break ron I did a little research on
that heart nut and it is a part of the
walnut family. It's a Japanese walnut, and it is monoecious,
(37:24):
which means the flowers, both the male and female flowers
are on the same plant. If that's the case, of course,
they can take eight, ten, twelve years before they start
the flower and fruit, so that's could be maturity of
the plant. Even though they're forty feet tall. If the
weather's not right when those things are in flour, that's early.
That could be a major issue. We'll see walnut production
go up and down because of the lack of pollination.
(37:48):
Of course late frosts, and I don't recall having many.
But depending on where he was Mount Vernon, we did
this yere, so he did up in that area too.
They had snow lad as well, that can knock those off.
So if it had started to flower, that could be
an issue as well. But again, you know, we learn
stuff all the time.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
All the time. Every week we're learning. We're what makes
this field is interesting. And the reason why my retirement
plan is to keep looking at trees as long as
my mind and my body allow me to. Because a
lot of people retire they take up golf, and I
don't like golf. I would I want to retire and
take up something I don't like when I'm doing what
I love.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
It, you'd like you would like golf? Just driving around
on the golf car.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I'm on golf courses sometimes looking at trees. I'm easily
distracted by trees.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I know it's that on your shirt. Did you
ever see ron rothis out? You don't reell squirrel, yell
tree exactly. He'll be easily distracted. I did want to
mention as I have the last three shows. Now, I
just want to remind folks that have boxwood, especially in
our area south western Ohio, Dayton area, UH, and it's
now in like I think five other states. And if
(38:55):
you I've basically been saying, if you live east of
the Mississippi and you have boxwood, I would keep my eyes.
I was monitoring my boxwood once a week. There's a
new pest in town. It's a non native invasive pest
called the box tree moth. And Joe and I we've
talked about it for the last couple of years. It's
been in Canada for about five it's been in Europe forever.
(39:15):
They've been dealing with this for a long time. But
it can be devastating to boxwood. And Ron before the
show started today talking about how much he had seen
traveling around this week. And I was actually in an
area where I was looking at some trees this week
and I pulled out and realized the customer had boxwood
turning brown and it was box tree moth. So they're
going to spray, obviously, but they were half devastated. But
(39:38):
for over a three mile stretch, looking on both sides,
of the road. I couldn't find any boxwood that were green,
so in pocketed areas so far, they could really do
a number on boxwood. So if you have boxwood and
they're nice and green, now keep monitoring on a regular basis.
Learn more about box tree moth. I've got some great
links for you to I'll send to you if you
(40:00):
email me, I'll send them back to you. Got a
couple of brochures that I've got that I'll send back
to you to learn more about it. But I don't
care where you are. Like I said, it's in about
five different states so far, but it's on the move.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah, we're not talking about like one branch here talking
about your period, right, Yeah, but like while you telecanker,
just one branch here and one branch there. This is
like whole sections of the whole planet the plant. Yeah,
two days, three days, and it's on. It's very distinctive
because they're kind of like a little child where you
give them a piece of pizza or a piece of
(40:35):
bread where they eat everything but the crust. So you'll
see all these little crescent moon shaped around the little
leaf pieces left, and they spin a little bit of
thread a little bit of silk, so you'll see all
these leaf pieces just kind of hanging there like Christmas ornaments.
And when the wind blows a little bit, you'll see
all this jingling and jangling inside the browning bush. So
(40:55):
once you've seen it, it's really really distinctive. But they
are extremely devastating. They will absolutely destroy a whole planning
of box would they'll do it rather quickly. The only
good news is that their caterpillars and are pretty easy
to control.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Control.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
But you want to be careful because a lot of
people have buckswood's near their pollinator gardens, and you know,
butterflies are caterpillars.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Right bt BT put that at the top of your
list for spring, right, but keep it away from your
poinator plants exactly. But I want to keep bringing it
up so you know you don't get caught off hand,
off guard all of a sudden, your box wad and
that's what's happening. Folks on them don't realize what's going on.
But again, each of the Mississippi I'm telling you, but
learn more about it no matter where you are, and
you have box with so you know what to look for.
(41:39):
Email me. I'll send you the links or just go
to box Tree Moth and you'll get more information that
way got about a minute ago. I had to throw
this out at you run because we always talk about weather,
and surprisingly enough today we got through most of the
the Morning Show without talking about weather. The Old Farmer's
Almanac came out with their fall twenty twenty five fall
(41:59):
forecast for our area Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
Pretty much all the way up, cool and drier than usual.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
What I've been saying would indicate maybe drier, but I'm
not sure about the cooler. I'm thinking maybe a little
bit warmer. It was pretty dry last fall, right, so
we're talking dry again. It looks possible the flying the
ointment of that would be tropical activity. If we get
(42:34):
tropical storms that come up, they could dump, they could
make it wetter. But the overall weather pattern does look
dryer going into the fall.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
If you find a fly in the ointment, will you
still use the ointment?
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Perhaps if it's rainfall. Okay, Ron Roth is mixing my metaphors.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
It's always a pleasure having you in studio. It's always
a pleasure on our show. Great information. Again, if you
want to learn more about the weather. The man does
always spot on, so you can check that out. He's
got a special section for that. But learn more about
your trees and taking care of those existing trees, those
older tree. Tree preservations so important. And again, if you
(43:18):
have any issues, you're not sure what's going on, get
a hold of a certified arborist, registered consulting arborist. Get
them out to your house. That tree's worth a million bucks,
and it really is. And if it costs you a
hundred bucks, they have them come out to take a
look at it. It's worth the one hundred dollars. Ron Rothie,
always a pleasure, and thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:34):
You're very kind and generous, and I really appreciate the
opportunities having our pleasure.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Thanks to all of our colors, thanks to our sponsors,
Thanks of course with Danny Gleese and our producer, because
without Danny Gleese and none of this stuff would happen.
So Dan, thank you so much for all that you do.
Now do yourself a favorite. Figure out where you're going
to plant another tree or two or three this fall.
Keep planting those native plants, keep planting those pollinator plants.
Be friendly pollinator polite, get the kids and dogs of
ball with guarding, pamper you were and by all weeds means,
(44:01):
make it the best weekend of your life. See you green,
Tom or not.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three
talk This is in the Garden with Ron Wilson
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three, eight
two five five. Good morning. I am run Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yarding, as you well know.
The way we're set up here with Danny and I
look at each other on the TV on the monitors,
I say, TV screen in my old hat or what
when we get to see each other because he's in
a room on the other side of the hallway and
I'm in the studios over here. So we kind of
(00:55):
waved each other all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But Dan down the hallway, maybe to your left.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Down the hallway, to the right, right, you know whatever.
But Dan likes to keep things upbeat in his studios
over there. I went in and he had a huge
picture of the outer banks with everybody out with the
tents up this morning, getting ready to get into the water.
Enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I did, and then I replace it by twilight Zone.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And then he said, I'm done with that. I'm going
to the Twilight Zone. Yes, So now he's watching the
Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I have a split screen of you and the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Great, where's Gary?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Not doubting yet?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh okay, got it? Anyway, Talking about yardening at eight
hundred and eight two three a two five five website.
Ron Wilson online dot com. Planning of the week is
spider plants and if you want to know why, go
to the website. You'll find out read his recipe. It's
something a little bit different. Be sure and check it out.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
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Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's called fatoush fatush and that she has has several
recipes for it. This is kind of an updated one,
so you'll enjoy that as well. Oaks Sawflug Oak slug,
sawfly uh and glowworms. There are two big go post
for this week, so be sure and check those out
as well. Across the table from me here in the studios,
(02:06):
our first in house guest since COVID things changed, the
new studios back then, the way things were set up
just never brought anybody back into the studios to be
our guests on Saturdays. But he is our first and
we are honored to have him with us this morning,
co hosting kind of Ron Roth to see arbor doc
and his website arbordoctor dot com. And he brought a
(02:27):
couple little kids running around here. Yeah. Then they're totally
not interested in the show whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, they they have other interests in life.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You mean, old man making them get up at five
thirty in the morning to come down here.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
They were up at I think four thirty this morning.
That's even worse earlier than I thought I was gonna
have to get them up. They got themselves up. It's like, well,
if you want to be up at this hour, slept
another half hour.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But Uncle ron had snacks at drinks. Form got a
place over here. They can lay on the couch and
hang out so.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Which they're much more interested in. Then I took care
of him. There you got, well, you're good, I got
him covered. Yard boy comes through again or.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
They call me Uncle Ronathy one there goes. That's sorry.
By the way, I want to thank Tim m dwyer again,
he had said about the reminding me again about getting
the Moullman on some time, talk about the cicadas and
the moles and all. And if you remember Tim dwyer
has been on our show before. He's the pickle guy
and he does a great job pickling all kinds of
(03:32):
stuff and sells it locally. And you can see him
at his website or a Facebook page is Pickled to
Paradise if you want to check him out. So thank
you Tim for bringing that up. Talk with Ron rothis
we're talking trees mostly to day, but we're here to
answer your questions as well. Buggy Joe Boggs is on vacation,
so we're gonna carry this. We got Gary Salvyn coming
up after the break, but then we're going to carry
(03:53):
this right up to the top of the hour. So
taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five about trees or yardening in general. A
lot of things going on out there for you as well.
And Ron, it's carrying on with the tree conversation, and
we were talking about the moles and the increase in
populations with the cicadas, and many of the areas locally
(04:14):
here southwest Ohio hit pretty hard with this last brood
in some areas in lightening. But I was telling you
that I had been looking at some trees and there's
some smaller trees Japanese tree, lilac, some smaller maples that
not only did they have the flagging on the ends,
but that cicada damage went all the way down to
(04:35):
the trunk on those branches. That's kind of a time
we'll tell on those, right, I mean, you know, a
lot of times you see that flagging on the ends,
it breaks off. Done deal. But this is where this
thing got These branches have gotten hit right to the
base of the tree, I mean right where they come
out of the trunk.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yeah, and at some point you're gonna have to and
I would, I guess, tend to wait and kind of
see what. Yeah, but there have been trees over the
years where I've done just a major pruning on the trees,
I mean almost removing, you know, most of the branching
(05:13):
because they were so riddled. Specifically years ago on a
black gum tree that I had in my yard and
it really just popped back, I mean really vigorously. The
thing you have to watch if you're going to do
something like that is if it does grow back vigorously
and it has a lot of you know, sprouting and things,
(05:35):
you're probably going to have to go in there and
do a little bit of structural pruning to make sure
that the chaos which ensues from all that puning actually
ends up structurally being something that the tree can can
live with over the course of its life.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Multiple branches coming out from where you cut off.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
The exactly exactly so you know, and you want to
do that anyway with a new tree, even you know,
when you don't have cicada damage, just to make sure
that you know. Structural pruning of young trees sometimes we
call it young tree training. It's kind of like having children.
You know, you have children and you don't just let
(06:14):
them make it up and never correct them or discipline them.
You have to kind of steer them in the right
direction and things like that. And trees are the same way.
Very often they'll have a double leader, they'll have very
very narrow branching angles and things, and you have to
make those corrections when they're well. You should make those
(06:37):
corrections when they're young, because if you let the tree
get really big has a double leader they're both six
inches in diameter, then you can't very well go in
and you know, cut one of them off. You're going
to lose half the canopy. There are ways to manage
that with subordination and one of those co dominants and
things like that, but it's much easier to fix those
things when the tree is little and the diameters or
(06:59):
very very.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
One of the trees I looked at was a Japanese tree,
like a small one just planted, and like I said,
it was riddled all the way to the trunk where
the branches came out. What was interesting is and of course,
you know, and I think of you sometimes when I
go out to do this, because you become detective. You know,
the first thing you do is look at the overall tree,
and you look at the new growth, You look at
the branches, you look at the hou it's coming out
(07:21):
of the ground, cet et cetera. There were a ton
of ants crawling all over this tree. And of course
right away I started looking for aphis or anything, and
there's nothing, no scale. But what I was watching was
they were actually going to where many of the slits
were that were made there, and there was enough little
bit of sap coming out of that that they were feeding.
They were feeding right on top of those slits and
feeding on sap from the tree and then going back down.
(07:45):
You know, they were all over this thing. I mean,
like crazy, and it's amazing how many calls I will get.
You probably do too, where my plants cover with ants.
They're killing my plant. Well it's not the ants. The
ants are an indicator, but you know, but they were
actually feeding on on the slits where that cicada damage was.
But bottom line was, as I look to see what
(08:06):
was going on with this particular tree had been just
planted within the ear. It's the same ol, same mole
that we're seeing just all the time. And you and
I said, you are during a break trying to think
of all the other reasons why this would happen. But
it's just amazing how many trees I go and look
at that have been planted in the last two or
three or four years that are too deep. And you know,
(08:28):
we talk about show me the root flare, show me
the flare. Planet at the root flare at the surface
level or higher. And then I go and you look
and it looks like a telephone pole going down into
the ground, which is an indicator right there that something's wrong.
And you start digging down and there is that root
flare four or five six inches below the ground, and
it just doesn't work. And overtime, which you know, it
(08:50):
takes its toll on those trees, and some trees probably
can tolerate a little bit better than others. But it's
amazing how we're still as much as we've preached. And
it's a volcano malting the same way. You preach and
preach and preach, and you still see it out there.
But you know, you pull six inches of mult away
and then you go down and you know you get
six inches of soil. That tree is never going to
(09:11):
make it. You're twelve inches below anything. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
One of the things that you know, it's even caught
me by surprise is trees that I've planted personally, where
I go back and it's too deep and it's like,
I know, I didn't plant that too deep. But what
I did, and you kind of learn things over time,
is if you dig the hole deeper than it needs
to be and then you you know, put some backfill
(09:38):
under it to get the tree at what you think
is the right level, that backfill is going to settle
and that tree is actually going to sink. So you
know the current And I was on the committee with
Ohio I say that developed the tree planting specifications for
Ohio that were just signed off on by Ohio State
(09:58):
Extension and the Ohio Green Industry Association. But the current
specifications are to dig that hole no deeper than the
root ball needs to be set so that the root
ball is sitting on solid ground to lessen the chance
that it's going to you know, be sinking like that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Right, yep, but it does happen, and I trust me.
He was swallowing hard when he admitted the fact that
some of the trees that he'd actually planted were too deep.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You learn it following a lot, ladies and gentlemen wiping
his brow.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
You learn an awful lot by making the mistakes and
those of us owl and error exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Trowel and air. We got to take a break. But
before we do, very quickly, we're going to go down
to Alabama. And be careful when I say this, mister
roll Tied, because Ron rothis is more of a Buckeye
fan than Buggy Joe Boggs Go Bucks.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I honestly think, Hey, roll Todd, I think Ron actually,
I think he is an Alabama fan because he's logical,
he's reasonable, he gives good advice. Buggy Joe, you never
know what's coming out of his mouth. He's illogical.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
He's a buck Eye fan, So you think so huh.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I'm sorry. Ron is so nice to meet you.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's very nice to hear from you, despite your allegiance
to that team that you like so much. I really
enjoy I enjoy your enthusiasm, Harold. I wish it was
directed toward another team. But we can't have everything, can we.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Well, you know, I actually like Michigan because Buggy Joe
doesn't like him.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do you know where he's vacationing this week?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Alabama?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Up north?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh wow, that's incredible. Hey, real quick, yes, my amarillis bulbs.
When do they need to go back into the garage
to get some blames during the holidays.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Remember, it takes about eight weeks from the time they
start to regrow to flower, six to eight weeks, Okay,
so you count, you know, you count backwards from that
and whenever you you know, store them away, uh and
store them away. You know, you want them stored away
for several weeks and then bring them out. And so
you got twelve weeks invested easily. That's why we say,
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you know, into August typically you're putting those things, making
them go dormant, so you've got plenty of time to
get them to do it for the holidays. Good.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well, they they look good. They're good and grain, so
I'm thinking'm gonna get a good, good crop. Listen, I'll
let you guys go and I just wanna say what
twenty twenty seven days, roll tide, roll you, glad to
head you, glad to have you on the time, trink.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I love it, Harold and take you have a good weekend.
Good talking to you. There you go, there you go there,
All right, quick break we come back. We're gonna do
a little home improvement from the man, the myth, the legend,
mister Gary Salvan. And after Gary. We're taking your calls
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Today, welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
Time for little home improvement from the man, the myth,
the legend. He is the most listened to Homan proma
show hosting the entire solar system. That's right his website,
Garysullivan online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the
only Gary Son.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Well it sounds like a pair of rons today.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's a pair of rons, all right. I got a
pair of rouns, and I'll raise you to Gary and
the Moman in between.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
You're busy man.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And me in here pushing all the right buttons.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Danny's pushing all the right buttons. Thank goodness, and thank
goodness is right. So jumo this.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Week the front yard.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, I didn't mow the back why not?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Okay your neighbors, dope.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
It faces the north. It's growing, but it's not growing
fast enough. So I said, take the week off, Gary.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Got it? Plus you stepped outside it was eighty nine
degrees and oh my gosh, humidity matched the temperature, and
you said party continues. Done it.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
I'm sure you got that deck all sealed up, now,
don't you.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
What? Well?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I figured you'd get on me about mowing, so I
thought I mustle ass.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Nah the deck is it's clean. Yeah, it looks good.
It's clean. Yeah, it ain't sealed.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I showed you the fungus on my smoke bush, which
you never liked. You never liked my smoke bush. I
didn't like where it was. Oh I like it.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I liked it. I like Ronnie like smokes smoke bush.
I do. Yeah in the right spot, right, yeah, see
just right.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Outside the office window. It keeps a little privacy.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I thought the Magnolia had a better look than this.
Took that down anyway.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
I'm sitting there, I'm looking at it's like it's fifteen
percent dead. What's going on out there? I pretty much
figured before I even got there what it was. And
then I saw a bunch of curled up leaves, and
then I started looking at the other leaves, and there's
fungus on.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But you know what, too, I didn't see the dead part.
As far as the branches, they're very susceptible to versilian will,
very versill and that takes pieces out. Little piece here
and a little piece there. May not kill the whole plant,
but you just get pieces of this d keep dying
out and dying out. But it's very suscepibul to that
as well.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Well, maybe I got a little bit of that, but
I'll tell you what it did.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What'd you do before I even power washed it? Well,
but that's a good answer.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
I did go in there and take out some of
the dead branches. There wasn't a lot, but I just
just and it really wasn't unsightly. I just took it out,
and then I saw where there was fungus on. I
don't know, maybe another forty percent of the bush, but
some of the one side was kind of clear, so
I did put some fung just side on there. It
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looks a little better this week.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So I don't know just because you have the Gary
Sullivan touch.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
Well, I don't know about that either, but I just
it it didn't rain as much this week. Maybe that helped.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's you know what. We watched those dark clouds go
over on my cell phone as NonStop says chance it
was still storm to lighting in your lightning in your area,
and we keep looking, but nothing's happening, right the ron
rothis said, he got you got something?
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I'm like, gotcha. And then about two hours later, a
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so hard, like eight to fifteen in the evening that
the whole curb lane was practically flooded. And then I
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still rained rainbow afterwards.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
There you go.
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I looked at a radar about fifteen minutes later and
that thing it totally does and disappeared. It just kind
of rained itself out right over me.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
So well, one thing's for sure. When it rains, it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Rains, ain't ain't no doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Not any spitting going on. I mean it's like there
you go, buddy.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All right. So what are you going to talk about
today when it comes to home improved besides air conditioners?
Speaker 8 (20:18):
Did you get your energy bill this month?
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yes, me too, you know wow.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Yeah, there is a change going on. So we're going
to talk a little bit about insulation, ventilation and wrapping
up some projects. Not when it's too hot out, just
general summertime things. But we we got to save some energy,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
There ain't no doubt about it. Save it, save some
money to try to pay for what. Save it up.
Gary Sollivan, Thank you, sir. Get check out his website,
Garysullivan online dot com. Take a quick break coming back
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Talking yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. I am Ron Wilson. Your personal yard boy,
don't forget our website. Ron Wilson online dot com in
the house this morning, our first in the house guest
on this show since COVID in our new studios. So
welcome Ron Rothis the arbor Duck. His website is arbadock
dot com. To West Virginia we go, Hey Jim, thanks
(23:28):
for holding on.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Good morning, Good morning. I have a Japanese glace leaf tree.
Started off as the bonds. I had it at for
years and then I thought I'd put it in the
ground to see how tall it would get. It's about
four feet high. And now all of a sudden I
noticed that is this a gray scale all over the branches?
And now half the tree looks like it's dying.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Uh, Ron rothis would like to address this on because
it's something that we are now seeing more and more.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I'm assuming yeah, it's it sounds like a scale insect.
And there is a armored scale called Japanese maple scale,
which has become quite a problem in our area around
the Middle Ohio Valley. So it doesn't want to surprise
me at all if you're seeing it also in West Virginia,
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and it's not real easy to control they kind of
continuously reproduced during the year, so treating it with an
insecticide can kill some of the babies, the baby they're
called crawlers. When they reproduce the baby. Scale insects basically
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walk around and look for a new place to take
up residents and this. Crawlers are vulnerable to various insecticides.
So you can control it like that, but there's only
usually about twenty percent that are actually in that crawler
state at any one time, so you're always going to
be missing some of them, so you have to do
(25:03):
repeated uh treatments to bring that under control.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
We use a material uh it's a uh neonicotinoid called
dino tafuron. Safari is one of the brand names. And
I don't know ron what the what the garden Center
brand names might be labeled in the garden for home owners.
(25:32):
I it's not a restricted use pesticide.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So I don't think I don't know if any I
don't know of any of this got that in it check.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, but you know, other other systemic insecticides, even like
bear tree and shrub, which has I think a bit
of clover it in it would work on that. We
use an insect growth regulator, which is kind of like
birth control for scale insects.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Again, I don't know if there's an equivalent product in
garden centers. And then uh, horticultural oils, which you have
to be really careful of the Japanese maples in the summertime,
even in the winter. You have to be a little
bit conservative on how strong a mixture. But that can
that can help with that as well.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So what so, Jim, do you have actual dead branches
in that Japanese maple too? Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yes, so they're defoliated and I noticed when we had
a big rainstorm went yesterday there were a couple of
branches excuse me on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So what would you suggest Ron that he goes through
and clip out all the dead or is this if
it's really covered and you can notice it by visually
seeing it, that's a lot of scale And I don't know,
I can see that, Yeah, And is that something wrong that?
Do you do you bite the bullet and give up
on that tree or do you do what you can
pruning out what you can and then treat it what I've.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
It's one of those it's depends type things. I've had
scale infestations on a hawthorn, for example, in the past,
where I've had just certain branches that are really, really
heavily infested, and I've gone through and pruned out those branches,
because then you're getting you're actually physically removing a large
number of those insects which would otherwise be reproducing and
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spreading through other parts of the plant. So if it's
a situation where you can prune out some of the
worst infested branches and then treat the wet rest, that
would be ideal. It just kind of depends on how
infested the tree is. If the entire tree is, you know,
half dead and the rest of it's invested, you very
(27:37):
well might be the point of just having to replace
the tree.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Unfortunately, But I understand this is a tough one to
get under control, Jim, And that's that's the point. And
do remember, feel free to take a couple of pictures
of that plant, especially some shots up close of the
bark and email them to me, and you know, I'll
make sure I ford them to run as well, and
we'll give you two of you opinions based on those
pictures of what we would do if that's indeed the case.
(28:04):
Give you some suggestions for.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That, because another thing with Japanese.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia dot com.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Okay, yeah, my neighbors at the same trees, they're smaller
than mine, and they all have this great scale.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I think, well, let's let's take a Let's do this
before you do anything besides trimming out dead branches, which
is fine. Uh, send us the picture, let us get
a little better idea for what's going on. I'll send
them to Ron as well, and then we'll get back
to you and we can walk you back through the
process as far as what he would do as far
as treating. But I know that's a tougher one to
get under control because of the way they reproduce.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Yeah, and then there are other things that can go
on with Japanese maples too that might kind of look
like this same thing. Just a degeneration of the plant
due to repeated you know, late freezes in the spring
and things like that can cause damage to the bark,
especially up.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Toward the branches.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Up toward the top. You can get got lichens sometimes
get it on there. Ligends can get on there. You
can get scorch on the leaves where the leaves are
actually getting gray and brown along the round the tips
when it's hot, especially when you start to get that
degeneration toward the top from past freezes and things. So
there's a lot of things that can cause I guess,
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kind of a scally look. But the scale itself, it
almost looks like tiny little dots of spray paint or
something on the on the on the bark.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, send us a picture, we'll take a look at it.
I'll make sure Ron gets them, and we'll make sure
we get right back to you and let you know
what we think we're seeing on it. It can be one
hundred percent with a picture either, but it gives us
a better feel for what you take a look at
before we take a break. Mount Vernon, Ohio, Chuck, good morning,
Good morning.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Hey. I have two hard not trees about twenty five
thirty years old, but I never have any nuts. What's
what can you tell me what to deal is?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
What kind of do you?
Speaker 9 (30:00):
What kind of heart nut?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay? Any any suggestions? Wrong?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Not really, I'm not depends on what type of tree
you have. Some trees do need their diecious need a
male and female, So it kind of depends on what
the tree is and what the what the needs of
the tree is if you have two, if you have
a female tree and you don't have a pollinator nearby,
(30:28):
you're not going to get nut production. Sometimes so well,
I have other nut trees.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Would they cross pollenate with it?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't think so. Again, depending on what it is.
You don't know. You say it's a hard nut tree,
is what you're saying, right, arc harked heart nut got it.
Couldn't understand what it was there? A heart nut tree,
got it. I don't think they cross pollinate. And I'm guessing,
but I don't think they do any guess.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Ron I, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay, I'm pretty sure they don't. But I again, I
don't think they do. But have you seen it flour
in the springtime?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
No? Never?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
How big is it?
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Oh, they're probably forty so be kind.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Of hard to see the flowers too at that at
that height. Yeah, well, you know what. We're both looking
at each other. We're gonna I'll tell you what I'm
gonna do this week. Take a look to make sure
about whether you need a male and female. I'm writing
myself a note uh in the in this hour next week.
We will bring that up and I have a better
answer for you. How's that because we needed one of
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us for sure whether that's a male or female.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Okay, well I've got two plants, but they could both
be males.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I guess, yeah, they can are both female and not
have that male polleny. So yeah, yeah, right, okay, but
we'll find out for you.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Okay, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
All right, Chuck, good talking to you. Quick break, we
come back. We'll finish up talking with Ron Roth. It's
the arbor doc here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (34:09):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson, talking
yard and he talking trees, talking weather with Ron Rothis
he is the Arbor Doc. Of course he's a regular
on our show and he is in studio today, our
first guest since the COVID and it's good to have
him in here and see his ugly I mean, is
a great face and a smiling face and all. Did
you notice last week we're on our plant Pick of
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the week was a combination of you and Buggy Joe.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I did and I was going to comment that my
cup plants and my compass plants I have both in
my yard are blooming like crazy right now.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And it's the cup plant's pretty. And I had to
explain it to my wife. She's like, what is Why
is he called a cupplant? So I had to give
her the thing with the water and the cup and
all that stuff. Then she wanted to why it was
a compass plant. We drove by the Procter and Gamble
research facility out there on Lisa Montgomery and that's all
compass plants big time. So I was explaining to her
about that being Joe's favorite, and I talked about yours.
(35:04):
So anyway, but pretty neat plants.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
You know two related plants that I really love too
that I also have in my yard or prairie doc
which has huge leaves. It's almost like a hosta, except
it's a native plant and it doesn't it isn't deer candy.
And the other one is rosenweed, which isn't the most
(35:27):
attractive name in the world, but it's a beautiful plant.
They're all sylphiums and they're all beautiful and they would
all make barb Bletcher really happy because the bees.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Love them, the queen bee. And by the way, speaking
of that honey, now's the time to get your fresh
honey from your beekeepers. They've collected all the spring in
the early summer honey. And it looks like so far,
at least from one of the reports I'm getting from
our beekeeper here working on our nursery and of course
in Columbus, that the honey production has been pretty good
so far this year. So that's a plus. And of
(35:57):
course you want to support local beekeepers. Keep planting for
the bees and all the pollinators, but support those local
beekeepers as well. Get out and purchase your honey now.
It's uh. They've got it out there, jarred up and
ready to go for you, and it's good for you.
So I make sure you continue to support those local beekeepers.
Got Ron rothis in the house with us this morning
(36:17):
talking about trees. Great information we've been sharing with you,
and of course you can learn a lot more on
his website at Ron Harbordoctor dot com. What is a
Milwaukee mini forest that is? Never mind, I didn't think
you know what it was that I know what it is.
I know you I was. That's one of those things
I had to look up. You talk about how we
(36:39):
sire down and we hear something and the folks here
at the taking root. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're gonna be
starting to putting those in, which I thought was pretty
interesting and never I had never heard of that before.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
So it's kind of a jump starting a little miniature
natural area or natural forest area that's it's supposed to
be reasonably self sustaining.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Great, that was pretty cool. Yeah, the interesting concept. We'll
talk more about that as we go along. But I
just saw that yesterday and like I said, I had
to look it up because I wasn't sure. So anyway,
during the break ron I did a little research on
that heart nut and it is a part of the
walnut family. It's a Japanese walnut, and it is monoecious,
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which means the flowers, both the male and female flowers
are on the same plant. If that's the case, of course,
they can take eight, ten, twelve years before they start
the flower and fruit, so that's could be maturity of
the plant. Even though they're forty feet tall. If the
weather's not right when those things are in flour, that's early.
That could be a major issue. We'll see walnut production
go up and down because of the lack of pollination.
(37:48):
Of course late frosts, and I don't recall having many.
But depending on where he was Mount Vernon, we did
this yere, so he did up in that area too.
They had snow lad as well, that can knock those off.
So if it had started to flower, that could be
an issue as well. But again, you know, we learn
stuff all the time.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
All the time. Every week we're learning. We're what makes
this field is interesting. And the reason why my retirement
plan is to keep looking at trees as long as
my mind and my body allow me to. Because a
lot of people retire they take up golf, and I
don't like golf. I would I want to retire and
take up something I don't like when I'm doing what
I love.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
It, you'd like you would like golf? Just driving around
on the golf car.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I'm on golf courses sometimes looking at trees. I'm easily
distracted by trees.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I know it's that on your shirt. Did you
ever see ron rothis out? You don't reell squirrel, yell
tree exactly. He'll be easily distracted. I did want to
mention as I have the last three shows. Now, I
just want to remind folks that have boxwood, especially in
our area south western Ohio, Dayton area, UH, and it's
now in like I think five other states. And if
(38:55):
you I've basically been saying, if you live east of
the Mississippi and you have boxwood, I would keep my eyes.
I was monitoring my boxwood once a week. There's a
new pest in town. It's a non native invasive pest
called the box tree moth. And Joe and I we've
talked about it for the last couple of years. It's
been in Canada for about five it's been in Europe forever.
(39:15):
They've been dealing with this for a long time. But
it can be devastating to boxwood. And Ron before the
show started today talking about how much he had seen
traveling around this week. And I was actually in an
area where I was looking at some trees this week
and I pulled out and realized the customer had boxwood
turning brown and it was box tree moth. So they're
going to spray, obviously, but they were half devastated. But
(39:38):
for over a three mile stretch, looking on both sides,
of the road. I couldn't find any boxwood that were green,
so in pocketed areas so far, they could really do
a number on boxwood. So if you have boxwood and
they're nice and green, now keep monitoring on a regular basis.
Learn more about box tree moth. I've got some great
links for you to I'll send to you if you
(40:00):
email me, I'll send them back to you. Got a
couple of brochures that I've got that I'll send back
to you to learn more about it. But I don't
care where you are. Like I said, it's in about
five different states so far, but it's on the move.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah, we're not talking about like one branch here talking
about your period, right, Yeah, but like while you telecanker,
just one branch here and one branch there. This is
like whole sections of the whole planet the plant. Yeah,
two days, three days, and it's on. It's very distinctive
because they're kind of like a little child where you
give them a piece of pizza or a piece of
(40:35):
bread where they eat everything but the crust. So you'll
see all these little crescent moon shaped around the little
leaf pieces left, and they spin a little bit of
thread a little bit of silk, so you'll see all
these leaf pieces just kind of hanging there like Christmas ornaments.
And when the wind blows a little bit, you'll see
all this jingling and jangling inside the browning bush. So
(40:55):
once you've seen it, it's really really distinctive. But they
are extremely devastating. They will absolutely destroy a whole planning
of box would they'll do it rather quickly. The only
good news is that their caterpillars and are pretty easy
to control.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Control.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
But you want to be careful because a lot of
people have buckswood's near their pollinator gardens, and you know,
butterflies are caterpillars.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Right bt BT put that at the top of your
list for spring, right, but keep it away from your
poinator plants exactly. But I want to keep bringing it
up so you know you don't get caught off hand,
off guard all of a sudden, your box wad and
that's what's happening. Folks on them don't realize what's going on.
But again, each of the Mississippi I'm telling you, but
learn more about it no matter where you are, and
you have box with so you know what to look for.
(41:39):
Email me. I'll send you the links or just go
to box Tree Moth and you'll get more information that
way got about a minute ago. I had to throw
this out at you run because we always talk about weather,
and surprisingly enough today we got through most of the
the Morning Show without talking about weather. The Old Farmer's
Almanac came out with their fall twenty twenty five fall
(41:59):
forecast for our area Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
Pretty much all the way up, cool and drier than usual.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
What I've been saying would indicate maybe drier, but I'm
not sure about the cooler. I'm thinking maybe a little
bit warmer. It was pretty dry last fall, right, so
we're talking dry again. It looks possible the flying the
ointment of that would be tropical activity. If we get
(42:34):
tropical storms that come up, they could dump, they could
make it wetter. But the overall weather pattern does look
dryer going into the fall.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
If you find a fly in the ointment, will you
still use the ointment?
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Perhaps if it's rainfall. Okay, Ron Roth is mixing my metaphors.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
It's always a pleasure having you in studio. It's always
a pleasure on our show. Great information. Again, if you
want to learn more about the weather. The man does
always spot on, so you can check that out. He's
got a special section for that. But learn more about
your trees and taking care of those existing trees, those
older tree. Tree preservations so important. And again, if you
(43:18):
have any issues, you're not sure what's going on, get
a hold of a certified arborist, registered consulting arborist. Get
them out to your house. That tree's worth a million bucks,
and it really is. And if it costs you a
hundred bucks, they have them come out to take a
look at it. It's worth the one hundred dollars. Ron Rothie,
always a pleasure, and thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:34):
You're very kind and generous, and I really appreciate the
opportunities having our pleasure.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Thanks to all of our colors, thanks to our sponsors,
Thanks of course with Danny Gleese and our producer, because
without Danny Gleese and none of this stuff would happen.
So Dan, thank you so much for all that you do.
Now do yourself a favorite. Figure out where you're going
to plant another tree or two or three this fall.
Keep planting those native plants, keep planting those pollinator plants.
Be friendly pollinator polite, get the kids and dogs of
ball with guarding, pamper you were and by all weeds means,
(44:01):
make it the best weekend of your life. See you green,
Tom or not.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three
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